mwikiawards.2016-03-05

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Topic for #mwikiawards is ``"An Excellent Ceremony" - Chef Excellence, 2015 || Awards are canceled, I have a hair appointment the day of the ceremony and I can't miss it, soz || 1st meeting hype || http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=36197.0 Links''
  
Topic for #mwikiawards was set by Anton{Politoed}!Mibbit@bzk-90-574-582-955.stny.res.rr.com on zaterdag 5 maart 2016 1:30:20
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 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
yes
 <Nyrie> 
better than trump at least
 <Gamefreak75> 
im going to build a wall around sweden
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
but hillary is not trump
 <Gamefreak75> 
to keep smashers out
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
what no D:
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
even if bernie doesn't get the nomination it shows that the voting populace is interested in someone with his ideals
 <Uniju> 
i feel ready
 <Lakituthequick> 
'night
 <Nyrie> 
yeah
 <Nyrie> 
which is good
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
if she wins, bernie better push her all the way
 <Toadbert> 
its nice to not be
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
just to keep trump out of office, if nothing else
 <Tailmon> 
fuck off gf
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
hi ltq is your nick registered
 <Toadbert> 
quite so directly affected by this
 <Lakituthequick> 
yes anton
 <ChanServ> 
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yay
 <Toadbert> 
wow look at all these ops
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
yeah, but if trump wins he'll probably try to conquer canada
 <Toadbert> 
when eveyrone is super no one is
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
just saying
 <Uniju> 
you have your own problems
 <Uniju> 
like justin
 <Lakituthequick> 
:thumbup:
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it's ok Toadbert
 <Toadbert> 
i still dont know why hes a big problem
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
there's brock and nex and vb
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we can beat them up
 <Toadbert> 
but lots of people want him to burn now jerk so its like
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
because he's insane
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
thing is
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
in 2008
 <Toadbert> 
im talking about our prime minister
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
and also he will probably completely annihilat- oh okay
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Obama did not have many votes and Hillary had a lot of votes
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
look at who's president now
 <Toadbert> 
i realize canadas gonna get sucked into hell if the us becomes chaos
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
weedman
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
weedman is memey
 <Uniju> 
weedle
 <Uniju> 
where is little turb
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
did you vote Labour
 <turb> 
what
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
plot twist:tb means it literally
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
if trump wins
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
canada becomes a giant portal to hell
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
sorry tb
 <NSY> 
we live under this man called david cameron
 <NSY> 
ever heard of him
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
BIG DAVE
 <Nyrie> 
canada is already hell
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
yes
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
he apparently fucked a pig
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
i'm sure it's only heck at the worst
 <turb> 
i mean even if congress wont actually work with trump
 <NSY> 
thats true
 <Toadbert> 
<Nyrie> canada is already hell
 <Nabber> 
piggate
 <Toadbert> 
if you live where glowsquid lives maybe
 <Nabber> 
my favorite thing
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
but really, who hasn't?
 <NSY> 
are leader is a big pedophile
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
[\0x08]
 <turb> 
theres still the issue of him setting back international relations 50 years by saying something
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
YES
 <Nabber> 
hell is hot
 <Nabber> 
canada is cold
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
I GOT TO SEE THE [\0x08]
 <turb> 
saying anything really
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
YES
 <Nabber> 
ergo, canada is not hell
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
THANK YOU
 <NSY> 
that is embarrassing
 <NSY> 
*pig
 
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 <turb> 
also whats wrogn with quebec
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
hey SMB
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
hi sambarino
 <Uniju> 
its full of french people
 <Uniju> 
what could be worsre
 <turb> 
ok
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
SMB I can't make the shroom meeting tomorrow soz
 <Nyrie> 
if you had to fuck a country
 <Nyrie> 
which one would it be
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
oh that's easy
 
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 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
japan, probably
 
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 <NSY> 
north korea
 <SMB> 
Chiaki: That's alright, thank you for letting me know.
 <Nyrie> 
freakworld:
 <SonicMario> 
Hey guys ^^
 <Nyrie> 
tell me about malta
 <Gamefreak75> 
Pangaea
 <Freakworld> 
its an island
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
`op SMB
 <Freakworld> 
its hot
 <Nyrie> 
i knew that
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
shit
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
i lack the power :<
  
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 <Uniju> 
the people of north korea are so malnourished though
  
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 <Uniju> 
a personoification of north korea would probably be like 50 pounds
 <Toadbert> 
thanks brow
 <Nyrie> 
i accidentally closed irc
  
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 <Uniju> 
then again considering all you 13 year old tumblr kids want to fuck skeletons you would probably like a severely anorexic/malnourished body
 <Freakworld> 
not realla
 <Freakworld> 
*really
 <Toadbert> 
whatd you call me
 <Uniju> 
it's like a skeleton in a gimp suit
 <Tailmon> 
just a warning i might be kind of here and there for a little while
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
meeting hype
 <Nyrie> 
how long are these meetings again
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
2 hours??
 <Nabber> 
ten days each
 <Nabber> 
have fun
 <Tailmon> 
9 years
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
839120 years
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
2 hours, give or take
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
1 light year
 <Nabber> 
anyway time to start the final dang ronp trial
 <NEXandGBX> 
pi
 <Nyrie> 
oh ok
 <NEXandGBX> 
a light year is distance
 <NEXandGBX> 
not time
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
yes i know
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
i wanted to meme
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
also meeting's starting in like soon if other topics can dwindle down now
 <Nyrie> 
buzz lightyear
 <Toadbert> 
nex u got memed hard
 <Toadbert> 
how does it feele
 <_2257> 
we have to physically travel in order to complete a meeting
 <NEXandGBX> 
rip
 <_2257> 
also my clock says its time to start
 <Nabber> 
wow okay anton i see we're not important enough to you
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
correct
 <Nabber> 
i'll go do your meeting or whatever
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
anyways
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
welcome to the first awards committee meeting of the year!
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
wow such excite
 
Nabber claps
 <Freakworld> 
wow
 <Lakituthequick> 
:clap:
 <Nyrie> 
:doge:
 
Tailmon claps louder
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
we survived a year
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
we did it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
before we go and dive right into working on the awards themselves there's a few things to go over first and whatever
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*greeting
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
just did that, check
 <Mariofan169> 
so much progress
 <Toadbert> 
great job
 <SMB> 
a!
 <Toadbert> 
lets call it quits
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*attendance, did that and will finish later, check
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*outline rules and procedures
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so, ok !
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
this channel functions on effectively the same rules as #mwchat
 
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 <SonicMario> 
Hi DF
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
nothing particularly special except a few things we planned on specifying to make this year run smoother and more sane
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
edo, 22, and I would appreciate it if no one else but us called things into vote
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
or proceeded on to the next topic
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
in previous years this happened and things would get out of control
 <_2257> 
if you do i'll kill you
 <Double_DragonFreak> 
hi i hope i dont disconnect again
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
(but i'm already dead)
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
featuring things such as me going into the Full List document to note a change and I'd come back to see everyone already rushing to the next vote
 <Nabber> 
22 i'd be happy to die by your hands
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we're not in any big rush
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we have lots of time
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and I'd like to make things perfect
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
okay this is a good change
 <Nyrie> 
yeah a whole lightyear
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
close to perfect
 <_2257> 
ok ill just lock you two in a box
 <SMB> 
<@Anton{Politoed}> edo, 22, and I would appreciate it if no one else but us called things into vote
 <SMB> 
Can we put this to a vote
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
no, it's a royal decree
 <Freakworld> 
n
 <turb> 
y/n/a
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*channel permissions, did most of that, so check
 <Double_DragonFreak> 
n
 <SMB> 
:[
 <Nyrie> 
[b]vote:nabber[/b
 <NSY> 
y
 
Nabber is vote
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok big one now
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Quick run-through of big ideas so we can anticipate them
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
the memes are already starting
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
fucking hell
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
pay attention to this
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we're exploding A25 Favorite Super Mario 64/Sunshine Level
 
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
the exact manner how will be determined later, but it should be anticipated because we'll need to adjust awards around to do such
 <Toadbert> 
thats good
 <turb> 
i think that's fine yeah
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so far the best idea now is to create new awards to address both 2d and 3d levels in general, which in turn would get rid of the Favorite Galaxy award as well
 <NSY> 
i agree
 <Toadbert> 
unlike galaxy i can actually chip in for both games
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
don't know yet about the Fail version of those awards
 <NSY> 
and 3d world level as well
 
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but we'll address it as we run through the numbers and get to it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
hi
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
as for new award ideas, just so you can all sit on them and mull them over while we wait to get to them
 <Meta_Knight> 
I'm on Mobile but I'll do my best to contribute
 
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
a shortlist I have now includes:
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
hey stooben!
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Favorite DLC
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Favorite Level Theme -Environments (Water, Grass, Desert, Castle, etc.)
 <Stooben> 
hallo hallo
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Favorite New Character
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Favorite SSB Stage
 
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Favorite 2D Level
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Favorite 3D Level
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Favorite Internal Development Team http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=35308.msg1759656#msg1759656
 <Nabber> 
i suppose favorite shitpost is still not going to happen
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
what
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
what about my favourite Super Mario Maker design element thing
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
keep these ideas in mind when we need to use them
 <Uniju> 
favo0rite shitpost would be a up award, nabber
 <Nyrie> 
yeah
  
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 <Nyrie> 
pi's thing would be nice too
 <Nabber> 
okay, favorite shitedits
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah that too I must not have put it in my notes
 <Nyrie> 
oh ok
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
could we like
 <Nabber> 
i know there are a lot of those on mw
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
not shitpost
 <Nabber> 
ok
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
and get to the point
 <Nabber> 
got it
  
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah it will be best to keep things on track or else you'll get grumpy anton
 <Nabber> 
:(
 <Freakworld> 
thanks
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so yeah those are most of the new ideas we have at the moment
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
are we going to do a quick runthrough to seek awards to cut
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
to just keep in mind
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
or discuss cutting awards as we get to them
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
as we get to them
  
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 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Why?
 
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
because that's how we're doing it
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
ok
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
everyone's had ample time to look over the list
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I've had it up in the forums for 2 months now so I'm sure everyone's aware of what could go
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we've discussed this already in the staff board
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
aside from the awards themselves, another thing, tournaments
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
-Tournaments: Planning can begin; deadlines need to be enforced. If there’s to be any extensions, they should be from a chunk of time already set aside by the host
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
this is to curb an issue that happened last year
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
with players getting extension after extension, dragging the tournaments out much longer than they should've
 <Freakworld> 
right
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
question: how will that affect mafia
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
don'ts tart it in the middle of august
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
since we inherently have no idea exactly how long that will be
 <Meta_Knight> 
I think mafia is fine
 <Meta_Knight> 
That usually takes longer anyway
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
well that wasn't gonna happen lol
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if you start it at a reasonable time given how long they've lasted in prior years then it will go fine
 <Toadbert> 
shroom mafia finish when
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we haven't had any problems with it so far so keep up with whatever it was
 <NSY> 
just make sure phases are run smoothly and have minimun delay
 <Nabber> 
id definitely support starting mafia earlier in the year, if that's possible
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
June?
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
>minimum delay
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
i'll try :V
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so anyways those are the big overview topics
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
june might be TOO early, tbh
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we're not addressing these all in full right now
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
for actual starting
 <Nabber> 
chao who are you cohosting with
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
anyway Mafia is another topic
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
these are just things to keep in mind as we do meetings for the year
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
stooben-senpai
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
so uh
 <ChanServ> 
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 <Nabber> 
oh boy
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if you want to get a head start on discussion for anything feel free to use the forum for it
 <Freakworld> 
rip
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
i may have to solo-host for some of it!
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
no offense bro
 <Tailmon> 
what about me :(
 <_2257> 
chanserv ugh
 <Toadbert> 
rip me
  
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
any questions regarding huge topics of discussion?
 <Freakworld> 
thanks
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
without getting into fine details right now
 <SMB> 
Yes
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
i dunno if we need triple-hosting again? it has planning advantages but -not really, it all looks solid to me
 <Toadbert> 
are we talking about the big 10th anniversary things
 <Toadbert> 
or is that just forums
 <SMB> 
Anton, may I have a link to that post you mentioned is in the board?
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
what post
 <SMB> 
<@Anton{Politoed}> everyone's had ample time to look over the list
 <SMB> 
<@Anton{Politoed}> I've had it up in the forums for 2 months now so I'm sure everyone's aware of what could go
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
whatever it is it's probably in general discussion, which is linked in the topic
 <SMB> 
The one referred to here.
 <Nabber> 
i don't know if this is going to be dealt with in meetings, but shouldn't the scavenger hunt be considered a big topic?
 <Tailmon> 
well i made my interest clear a long time ago and frankly i'd rather not play
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
in the OP there's a list of links
 <Tailmon> 
but i won't make a fuss of it right now
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
included is the Full List that we'll be running through
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
the scavenger hunt will be part of tournament discussion
 <SMB> 
Oh, okay! That's perfect.
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HK784JuPMmdDzLPz6fQ-tuFeU9CDVCt8e0QJsvXt81E/edit?pref=2&pli=1 schedule
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if you scroll down you can see a bunch of weeks set aside to talk about solely tournaments during ac meeting time
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it should be more than enough, especially with forum conversations going on throughout the weeks
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
add me in as a co-host or backup host for shroom in case SMB can't make it
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
or just backup host
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
yeah, just backup
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if it's backup then I don't think we really need to announce it unless it becomes more of a co-host thing but
 <_2257> 
anyway tb, freakworld, it did that because neither of you is logged in
 <Toadbert> 
oh right
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
as of now that's just more of a title thing and I'll fix it later if it's necessary
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
ok!
 <Toadbert> 
i dont know how to get it to log me in as "tb" when i use this nick
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
toadbert just do this
 <Toadbert> 
well i do
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
change nick to tb, log in, change to Toadbert, ns group
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
anyways if everyone's cool with the big subjects of discussion, we're gonna start with A1
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
I'm cool with it
 <turb> 
im good
 <Toadbert> 
i can identify as another nick if i just give it the password
 <Meta_Knight> 
Yeah
 <Freakworld> 
do i have to register right now
 <Toadbert> 
i just dont know where to tell hexchat to do that
 <Nyrie> 
okie dokie!!
 <SonicMario> 
Go on ahead
 <Toadbert> 
but 22 i should be in now
 <turb> 
it's not an emergency fw
 <Toadbert> 
if its imoprtant
 <Lakituthequick> 
letsago
 <_2257> 
ok
 <Stooben> 
you have my attention
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1T_H6HQaXTg6GSpWx8OL_vQ06YUkSB3sCB1XEfRH9h8I/edit?pref=2&pli=1 Full List 2016
 <Meta_Knight> 
What is a1 anyway
 <turb> 
it's just marking you as a committee member i think
 <turb> 
favorite soundtrack
 <Toadbert> 
dat highlight
 <Freakworld> 
okay
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
A1 Favorite Game Soundtrack (Original)
 <NSY> 
i know there's a lot of things regarding tournaments but do we need this many meetings on it?
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
(Yoshi's Island, Super Mario RPG, Paper Mario, Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Super Mario 64, Super Mario World, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, Super Paper Mario, Donkey Kong Country 2, Super Mario 3D World, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, Mario Kart 8, Mario & Luigi: Dream Team)
 <Toadbert> 
theres uh
 <Toadbert> 
a lot here
 <Toadbert> 
holy s
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Paper Jam needs to be added tbh
 <Nabber> 
can we just condense the two SMGs together?
 <NSY> 
15) Super Mario RPG - 12 - 1.63% 16) O. Super Mario Bros. - 6 - 0.82%
 <Nyrie> 
i was about to say that
 <Nabber> 
SMG2 is mostly just SMG1 with extra songs
 <Nyrie> 
paper jam is a good nominee
 <NSY> 
they are similar
 <Nyrie> 
especially with dream team there
 <NSY> 
ive not heard much of paper jam
 <Nyrie> 
was dream team's soundtrack really that outstanding
 <_2257> 
not in favor of that
 <_2257> 
when they both independently do so well
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
not in favour of what
 
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
there's currently 15 nominees
 <_2257> 
merging smg
 <NSY> 
i really liked dream team's soundtracker
 <Freakworld> 
per 2257
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
ok
 <_2257> 
with smg2
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
in order to add anything we need to remove something
 <turb> 
i'd rather not merge smg
 <SMB> 
I agree with _2257 and Chiaki_Nanami
 <Toadbert> 
is 15 the hard limit
 <NSY> 
as for merging them im a bit unsure on that
 <Nyrie> 
i'd rather not merge those
 <NSY> 
they are similar
 <Mariofan169> 
would removing smw be too controversial
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
15 is the soft limit iirc
 <Tailmon> 
i'm against merging the galaxys
 <NSY> 
but it would be the only merge
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
15 is the soft limit, I believe A29/30 went up to 18
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
yeah
 <turb> 
they're similar but they both individually do well and have different songs if you actually listen to them
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
which is the hard limit
 <Tailmon> 
how well did world do last year again
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
really important awards can do 18, but never above that
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15ZwYpnz5khaQGPM7UFzDVblQ1qgzqSUoeatzKoo_5jY/edit#gid=0
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Historical Results
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
check out the aesthetic
 <Toadbert> 
where can we see the full results
 <Toadbert> 
or rather
 <mcd> 
sorry i'm a bit late
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
full results are in the presentations
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and also
 <Toadbert> 
is this google doc i just asked permission to what im looking for
 <mcd> 
i've been out for 10 hours X_x
 <Meta_Knight> 
Was smrpg that popular
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QtiTuD8iRvzEJ_A-d3JSnFWETZPjhQA2Ww3FXvcOa5c/edit
 <ChanServ> 
_2257 set flags +AOVeirtv on SonicMario.
  
Mode #mwikiawards -o Freakworld by ChanServ
 <Mariofan169> 
the only really memorable tracks from that I can think of is the main theme and bowser's castle
  
Mode #mwikiawards +o Freakworld by _2257
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
lots of documents to manage
 <Uniju> 
merging the two most popular items in the award would slightly unbalance it wouldnt it
 <Uniju> 
or two of the most popular
 <turb> 
you need to log in for all the detailed results i think
 <Meta_Knight> 
Yeah it would
 <turb> 
its prompting me to log in for that anyway
 <_2257> 
well i think thats the access list done until freakworld gets an account
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
really
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'll reset permissions
 <Uniju> 
not like something other than smg is gonna win anyway but
 <turb> 
it's doing that for fail and up/shroom too it hink
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
fixed
 <Mariofan169> 
even then they're not that spectacular compared to other nominees
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'll reset the others later
 <Freakworld> 
will do that 2257
 <SMB> 
I would be opposed to removing Super Mario World.
 <turb> 
ok
 <turb> 
it works now
 <turb> 
if we were going to remove one i'd say smrpg
 <Tailmon> 
i cant even load any docs unless you want me to be absent for the entire meeting, lol
 <Nyrie> 
per turb
 <Tailmon> 
per turb though
 <turb> 
or one of the dkcs
 <Tailmon> 
that was last place wasn't it
 <turb> 
probably smrpg though
 <Toadbert> 
add dkc3 : ^)
 <turb> 
yes
 <Meta_Knight> 
I could live with removing smrpg
 <mcd> 
is this for
 <Nabber> 
i'd be fine with it
 <Nyrie> 
i think dream team is also kind of
 <Mariofan169> 
I'm fine with that
 <mcd> 
soundtrack?
 <Freakworld> 
im in favor of removing smrpg if we add paper jam
 <Nyrie> 
unnecessary
 <Toadbert> 
i dont really know smrpg for anything but forest meme
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
A1
 <Nabber> 
yeah mcd
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
how many new games are we looking to add
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
1?
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
yes
 <Mariofan169> 
just pj yes
 <NSY> 
paper jam sounds good
 <Nyrie> 
wait
 <Nyrie> 
can we add sticker star to this..?
 <NSY> 
also maybe sticker star as well?
 <Meta_Knight> 
Only other thing that might fit is woolly world
 <Nyrie> 
wow
 <Nyrie> 
well im not the only one
 <NSY> 
sticker star had a pretty good soundtrack
 <SonicMario> 
Anton: Yeah unless you thought Mario Tennis Ultra Smash's soundtrack was special :V
 <Freakworld> 
what would that replace though
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
sticker star got only 2 write-ins
 <Nyrie> 
dream team probably
 <Nabber> 
honestly im pretty unfamiliar with the new soundtracks
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Paper Jam's music is fucking incredible
 <Mariofan169> 
also if tabuu and master core are already in hardest boss then
 <Tailmon> 
i'm good with removing smrpg for pj
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
sticker star had some good music but imo it wasn't exceptional enough
 <Tailmon> 
that's about it
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
pj i'm cool with tho
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
i read that as pi
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
and i am also cool with pi
 <Nyrie> 
paper jam sounds like a good idea definitely
 <Mariofan169> 
adding the smash soundtrack for this wouldn't be too far fetched imo
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
since this seems to be the general idea going around, I'll call a vote, a two-parter
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
thanks perch
 <Nyrie> 
mf: the smash soundtrack is basically just covers of nintendo songs
 <Toadbert> 
would that be a good idea though
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
first part is removing smrpg, 2nd vote is adding paper jam
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so
 <Toadbert> 
smash songs arent too original
 <Nyrie> 
i don't think that really works as a nominee
 <Toadbert> 
theyre mostly remixes
 <Mariofan169> 
true
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Remove Super Mario RPG from A1? y/n/a
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
y
 <Nabber> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Mariofan169> 
y
 <_2257> 
y
 <Nyrie> 
y
 <Toadbert> 
y
 <Freakworld> 
y
 <Meta_Knight> 
Y
 <Uniju> 
a
 <NSY> 
y
 <Stooben> 
y
 <SMB> 
A
 <Gamefreak75> 
y
 <DragonFreak> 
n
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
lol doof
 <Tailmon> 
y
 <SonicMario> 
y
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
y
 <Tailmon> 
i would tally again but i think this speaks for itself
 <DragonFreak> 
idk what else to take off either but eh
 <mcd> 
a
 <NSY> 
thats a majority
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
14 yes votes is overwhelming, motion passes
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
15-1-3
 <NEXandGBX> 
i, which stands for i have no voice in this
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Add Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam to A1?
  
Mode #mwikiawards +v NEXandGBX by Uniju
 <Tailmon> 
y
 <_2257> 
actually, you do
 <Toadbert> 
a
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
y/n/a
 <Mariofan169> 
a
 <Uniju> 
a
 <Nabber> 
a
 <NSY> 
y
 <turb> 
a
 <Nyrie> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
non-AC members have half a vote
 <_2257> 
non-members are allowed to vote too
 <Freakworld> 
y
 <DragonFreak> 
y
 <mcd> 
a
 <SMB> 
A
 <_2257> 
also a
 <SonicMario> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <NEXandGBX> 
til
 <NEXandGBX> 
y
 <Meta_Knight> 
a
 <Gamefreak75> 
a
 <mcd> 
never heard anything from it tbh
 <Toadbert> 
obligatory aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy.wmv shitpost
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
a
 <Meta_Knight> 
I haven't either
 <NEXandGBX> 
also kind of late but good one uniju
 <Gamefreak75> 
i thought only the boss/final boss from paper jam was memorable imo
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
you know what we should do?
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
we should just
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
use strawpoll for this
 <Nyrie> 
(is 'a' just like 'no opinion')
 <Gamefreak75> 
no
 <Toadbert> 
yes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
that will take a lot more time
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
this is fine
 <Toadbert> 
@nyrie
 <SonicMario> 
vote on using strawpoll :V (lol)
 <Nabber> 
im abstaining since i haven't heard the soundtrack
 <Nyrie> 
(ok)
 <Freakworld> 
thats not as good to archive as well is it
 <Gamefreak75> 
strawpoll woul take ages
 <NSY> 
keep the tradition method
 <Freakworld> 
i mean like here everythigs in one place
 <turb> 
Toadbert: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMWmi9ovX7M
 <Toadbert> 
a for abstain
 <Nyrie> 
got t
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
unless there's a problem with this then we're not changing it
 <Nyrie> 
it
 <Toadbert> 
thanks turb
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
either way no one said no
 <turb> 
i don't have an issue with this voting system
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so Paper Jam will be added
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
gonna edit that now
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
i've seen strawpoll glitch up in the past anyway
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
oh ok
 <Toadbert> 
it used to be a bitch a few years ago when everyone would shitpost in the middle of it
 <Nabber> 
i guess you could say that game's music... is a Jam
 <Uniju> 
yeah these polls go nice and quick and theyve always worked, we just need to push the dirty work of tallying onto smasher
 <Toadbert> 
but i think people are better now
 <NEXandGBX> 
this voting system is fine, yeah
 <NSY> 
regarding sticker star maybe replace paper mario 1
 <_2257> 
she volunteered, actually
 <Tailmon> 
i did
 <Tailmon> 
i do it every year so
 <_2257> 
i had resigned myself to inheriting the dirty work of poll tallier
 <Freakworld> 
how many votes did paper mario 64 have
 <Nyrie> 
idk if sticker star is a good idea
 <_2257> 
but then she volunteered
 <Nyrie> 
nobody will vote just because it's sticker star
 <_2257> 
12) Paper Mario - 19 - 2.58%
 <Tailmon> 
im a hero
 <Freakworld> 
i dont really see the point in removing anything that would have more votes than sticker star at 2 write ins
 <Nyrie> 
^
 <SMB> 
I agree with Freakworld.
 <turb> 
^
 <Tailmon> 
agreed
 <Stooben> 
pls don't remove paper mario
 <Meta_Knight> 
What about woolly world
 <Nyrie> 
paper mario isn't worth removing
 <NSY> 
meh
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah there's no justification to remove any of the ones with 19 votes over the rest of them
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
>buying paper mari
 <Nyrie> 
woolly world's soundtrack wasn't really that outstanding
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
*mario
 <Uniju> 
why are we conemplating removing more things, is there anothing thing to add
 <_2257> 
some people have suggested sticker star
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
also keep in mind we will run through the list again to double-check
 <NSY> 
i was only suggesting paper mario over the others because of sticker star being a paper mario game
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and then likely triple-check
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
this won't be our only runthrough of A1
 <turb> 
honestly i'm fine with the award as it stands right now but
 <turb> 
thats me so ___
 <turb> 
also yeah we triple check these
 <Nyrie> 
per turb
 <Uniju> 
yeah its pretty good. it has a lot of stuff on it but its all good stuff that should be on it
 <Nyrie> 
other than smrpg
 <Meta_Knight> 
I can't think of anything else
 <Meta_Knight> 
Sm4sh feels like cheating
 <turb> 
no i mean
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if smrpg is missed, we'll see it in the write-in votes
 <turb> 
after removing smrpg and adding paper jam
 <turb> 
i think it's fine
 <turb> 
and yeah
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Anton has a point
 <Nyrie> 
yes
 <turb> 
every time we experimentally remove choices
 <turb> 
if the voters want it back they flood the write in box
 <Toadbert> 
how many votes did smrpg have
 <turb> 
12
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
30 minutes, 1 award
 <turb> 
last place
 <_2257> 
15) Super Mario RPG - 12 - 1.63%
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and the full itinerary
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
again, we're not rushing
 <Toadbert> 
well then whatever
 <Tailmon> 
i'm fine with the award as is
 <Toadbert> 
good enough for me
 <Nabber> 
im good
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
either way, it seems like we're moving on to
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
A2 Favorite Mario Kart Game
 <Freakworld> 
per tailmon et al
 <NSY> 
skip
 <Nabber> 
i guess we could add the arcade game but i don't think anyone's really played it
 <Toadbert> 
can we even do anything here
 <Nyrie> 
this one's easy enough lol
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
(Super Mario Kart, Mario Kart 64, Mario Kart Super Circuit, Mario Kart: Double Dash!!, Mario Kart DS, Mario Kart Wii, Mario Kart 7, Mario Kart 8)
 <Mariofan169> 
skip
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
is anything missing
 <turb> 
not afaik
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I think that includes everything
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
there are arcade games
 <Freakworld> 
were not adding the arcade games right
 <Nabber> 
the arcade game but does that even count
 <turb> 
the arcade games get like 2 votes per year
 <Gamefreak75> 
skip
 <Mariofan169> 
yeah the gp games are too obscure
 <NEXandGBX> 
nah nothing important is missing
 <Nyrie> 
arcade games dont count
 <turb> 
they're not worth adding imo
 <turb> 
skip
 <DragonFreak> 
mario kart cool 8)
 <Freakworld> 
skip then
 <Tailmon> 
skip
 <mcd> 
skip
 <Nabber> 
ive seen it at a movie theater once but i didn't get to play it
 <DragonFreak> 
skip
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
skip
 <Nyrie> 
skip
 <Nabber> 
skip
 <NSY> 
they didnt get any this year
 <Uniju> 
skip
 <SMB> 
Skip
 <Tailmon> 
!skip
 <Toadbert> 
to the lou
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
!skip
 <mcd> 
ive played (and lost at) mario kart arcade gp 2
 <Nyrie> 
!play
 <Stooben> 
whom is this skip of which you all speak
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
A3 Favorite Mario Platformer
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
(Super Mario 64/Super Mario 64 DS, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Super Mario Bros., Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario World, New Super Mario Bros., New Super Mario Bros Wii, Super Mario Sunshine, Super Mario 3D Land, New Super Mario Bros 2, New Super Mario Bros U/New Super Luigi U, Super Mario 3D World)
 <Nabber> 
super princess peach when
 <Gamefreak75> 
skip, probably
 <NSY> 
should we add 2 more to make 15
 <Nabber> 
(haven't actually played so)
 <Uniju> 
3d world is still the newst one isnt it
 <Nabber> 
skip
 <NSY> 
we have 13 as of now
 <Meta_Knight> 
Do we add Mario maker
 <_2257> 
spp is under spinoff i think
 <Nyrie> 
yeah
 <turb> 
mario maker feels like cheating
 <Nabber> 
wow,
 <Nyrie> 
does mario maker count
 <Gamefreak75> 
no need to add more to the list to meet an arbitrary number
 <NEXandGBX> 
i would assume mario maker doesn't count towards it
 <Mariofan169> 
meh
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
no write-ins got anything worthwhile in votes
 <Uniju> 
id call mario maker a spin off
 <_2257> 
i dont think mario maker counts
 <Toadbert> 
yeah
 <NSY> 
Mario Maker is an interesting one
 <Nabber> 
i wouldn't want mario maker
 <_2257> 
yeah
 <Nyrie> 
fair enough
 <Freakworld> 
no super mario land games?
 <Nyrie> 
skio
 <Nyrie> 
skip*
 <Toadbert> 
mario maker is 4 concepts on its own
 <Toadbert> 
and just kinda adding on
 <Uniju> 
skip
 <mcd> 
this is the skip im talking about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skippy_the_Bush_Kangaroo
 <Toadbert> 
skippy more like dippy
 <Freakworld> 
mario maker isnt actually mainly a platformer but an editor
 <Stooben> 
retro
 <Freakworld> 
skip
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
skipping, so
 <Tailmon> 
piks
 <Stooben> 
also lol australian
 <turb> 
skipping is probablyf ine
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
A4 Favorite Mario Kart Course
 <NSY> 
right skip then
 <Nabber> 
is mushroom gorge really a popular course?
 <Nabber> 
i've always been confused by that
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
(Bowser Castle (64), Rainbow Road (MK7), Wario Colosseum, Waluigi Pinball, Airship Fortress, Mushroom Gorge, Music Park, Coconut Mall, Maple Treeway, Toad Harbor, Electrodrome, Rainbow Road (N64), Mount Wario, Hyrule Circuit, Mute City, Animal Crossing)
 <Nyrie> 
add big blue
 <SMB> 
Skippy, Dippy's cousin.
 <Nabber> 
add big blue yeah
 <Nyrie> 
everyone seems to love that
 <Uniju> 
mushroom gorge was boring but it had top music
 <Freakworld> 
what were the results on this
 <NSY> 
14) Hyrule Circuit - 16 - 2.40% 14) Toad Harbor - 16 - 2.40% 14) Music Park - 16 - 2.40% 17) O. Baby Park - 9 - 1.35% 17) O. Big Blue - 9 - 1.35% 19) O. Koopa Cape - 7 - 1.05%
 <mcd> 
kangaroo skippy
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
hi
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
sorry, got called away
 <Nabber> 
i think adding baby park would be good
 <Nyrie> 
yeah definitely big blue
 <_2257> 
this already has 16 nominations
 <Nyrie> 
mayyyybe baby park
 <Toadbert> 
baby park was pretty fun actually
 <Nyrie> 
idk though
 <Toadbert> 
the chaos
 <_2257> 
jsyk
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
suggestion
 <DragonFreak> 
baby park is my second favorite course
 <Nyrie> 
i'd say remove mushroom gorge
 <Nabber> 
id support removing mushroom gorge
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
drop the tied-for-14th trio
 <Freakworld> 
id be in favor of adding big blue
 <NSY> 
Baby Park i support
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
and bring in baby par and big blue
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
*park
 <NSY> 
Big Blue i oppose
 <mcd> 
where did mushroom gorge come
 <Tailmon> 
i'm against removing mushroom gorge
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
mkwii
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
11) Mushroom Gorge - 24 - 3.60%
 <Nyrie> 
fbwii
 <mcd> 
if it wasn't even last why bother removing it
 <Gamefreak75> 
why remove mushroom gorge lol
 <Tailmon> 
it didn't tie for last
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
really, i feel that if we drop one of the tied for 14th we should drop all three
 <Tailmon> 
i'm going to per perch
 <Nabber> 
it never struck me as a popular course but what do i know
 <Freakworld> 
per mcd and tailmon
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
and same with adding the two writeins
 <Gamefreak75> 
per perch
 <SMB> 
Per Superchao.
 <mcd> 
per-ch#
 <mcd> 
LOL
 <Nyrie> 
per superchao
 <_2257> 
i support what superchao said i think
 <Freakworld> 
also per perch
 <Toadbert> 
thanks mcd
 <DragonFreak> 
per perch
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
per superdude
 <Gamefreak75> 
add in baby park (because people like it for some reason) and big blue
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
anton: can we have votes
 <Mariofan169> 
per-ch
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Hyrule Circuit, Toad Harbor, and Music Park?
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
yes
 <Nyrie> 
yeah
 <NSY> 
as much as i hate mushroom gorge it got enough votes to warrant staying
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
patience, I'm bouncing between 700000 documents
 <Nyrie> 
what about cheese land
 <Toadbert> 
still not as many tabs as turb
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
eeehe
 <Nyrie> 
did that get any write ins
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
*eeeeh
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
30) O. Cheese Land (GBA) - 2 - 0.30%
 <Freakworld> 
mushroom gorge is okay, at least the 7 version
 <Nyrie> 
oh
 <Nyrie> 
2
 <NSY> 
Hyrule Circuit would be my top pick to remove out of the three
 <Tailmon> 
dead
 <Nyrie> 
nevermind then
 <Mariofan169> 
is cheese land really a track
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
yes
 <Nyrie> 
yes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so yeah call to vote
 <Nyrie> 
gba cheese land
 <Tailmon> 
i'd just remove all of them if we removed any of them
 <Tailmon> 
as much as i love music park
 <Mariofan169> 
gdi super circuit
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Remove Hyrule Circuit, Toad Harbor, and Music Park as a package deal for A4? y/n/a
 <Tailmon> 
y
 <Nabber> 
y
 <Nyrie> 
y
 <Uniju> 
n
 <mcd> 
remove all of them y
 <Freakworld> 
y
 <Toadbert> 
a
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
y
 <turb> 
a
 <NSY> 
y
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Gamefreak75> 
y/y/y
 <SonicMario> 
y
 <NEXandGBX> 
a
 <Stooben> 
n
 <_2257> 
y
 <Mariofan169> 
y
 <Nabber> 
i love toad harbor, sadly
 <Meta_Knight> 
A
 <NSY> 
toad harbour :(
 <Tailmon> 
yeah toad harbor is great too
 <mcd> 
actually change mine to a
 <Nabber> 
that's a reminder, i should listen to the music
 <Freakworld> 
toad harbor is great yeah but this seems like the correct choice
 <_2257> 
yeah i like toad harbor too, but
 <NSY> 
i so want it to stay
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
i don't enjoy toad harbour after 200cc
 <Nyrie> 
toad harbor is boring
 <_2257> 
or maybe that was toad factory
 <Gamefreak75> 
our lord and savior waluigi pinball will avenge toad harbor
 <Gamefreak75> 
worry not
 <SMB> 
Abstain
 <Tailmon> 
12-2-6
 <_2257> 
i cant remember
 <NSY> 
but it had to go
 <Toadbert> 
but when will waluigi return from the dead gf
 <Toadbert> 
when
 <Uniju> 
rip toad harbor, best track
 <Gamefreak75> 
when the time is right
 <Stooben> 
when gf lends back his body
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
motion passes, removing them, one second
 <Mariofan169> 
I barely remember mk8 so
 <Nabber> 
toad harbor's music is unreal
 <SMB> 
On second thought
 <Nabber> 
freakin love this
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
MK8's soundtrack is unreal
 <SMB> 
Yes
 <Mariofan169> 
we'll just see from the write ins
 <Tailmon> 
13-2-5
 <SMB> 
on that previous vote which already passed, lol
 <Freakworld> 
what about ribbon road in terms of write ins btw
 <Tailmon> 
it passed anyway lol
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
lol
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
hang on, I'll just check a quick thing
 <Nyrie> 
did animal crossing get many votes
 <_2257> 
29) O. Ribbon Road - 2 - 0.30%
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok, next vote then
 <mcd> 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QtiTuD8iRvzEJ_A-d3JSnFWETZPjhQA2Ww3FXvcOa5c/edit?pref=2&pli=1
 <Nyrie> 
o yay
 <NSY> 
2 write ins is far from enough to warrant a nomination
 <Freakworld> 
i guess so
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Add Baby Park and Big Blue to A4? y/n/a/just one
 <Nabber> 
y
 <Tailmon> 
y
 <Nyrie> 
y
 <SonicMario> 
y
 <Toadbert> 
y
 <mcd> 
y
 <DragonFreak> 
y
 <_2257> 
y
 <Toadbert> 
for baby park
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Mariofan169> 
a
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
y
 <SMB> 
Yes
 <Freakworld> 
a
 <NEXandGBX> 
y
 <Uniju> 
a
 <Meta_Knight> 
Y
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
no reason to add only one when they tied
 <turb> 
a
 <Gamefreak75> 
n/y
 <Toadbert> 
i dont know what big blue is like
 <NSY> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
http://www.mariowiki.com/Big_Blue_(course)
 <Stooben> 
y
 <mcd> 
mario kart 8 really did turn out to be the new f-zero
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
gr8 so it passes
 <Freakworld> 
true
 <Nyrie> 
is koopa cape a consideration or do we have enough
 <_2257> 
i mean the reason to add it is that it got 9 votes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
was there anything else substantial for this award?
 <_2257> 
not because of anything about the course itself
 <Nabber> 
koopa cape got like no votes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Koopa Cape got 7
 <Nabber> 
for whatever reason
 <Freakworld> 
maybe we can discuss this again later
 <NSY> 
considering mute city is also there im unsure of adding in big blue
 <Tailmon> 
15-0-4-1-1
 <Nabber> 
they're separate courses
 <mcd> 
it got 2 less votes than the two we just added ._.
 <turb> 
you can also bring up stuff on the forums
 <turb> 
so
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
I exist again
 <Tailmon> 
final tally for the record
 <mcd> 
thats more than 'no votes'
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
late but Y
 <Tailmon> 
16-0-4-1-1
 <Tailmon> 
final final tally
 <Nyrie> 
7 votes isn't that bad
 <Nyrie> 
but
 <Nyrie> 
we already have a lot of tracks
 <Nyrie> 
so maybe not
 <_2257> 
we're at 15
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
wait, five categories of votes?
 <mcd> 
we're one less than last year
 <mcd> 
bc we removed 3 and added 2
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
15 is the limit I'd prefer
 <Tailmon> 
1 for just baby park and 1 for just big blue
 <Nabber> 
pi, two categories for adding one particular track
 <Nabber> 
yeah
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'd only like to add something if it's necessary
 <Tailmon> 
i think 15 is good
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I feel like adding koopa cape would just be like shovelware
 <Nyrie> 
oh already
 <Nyrie> 
okay
 <Uniju> 
koopa cape was the wii one right
 <Nabber> 
yeah
 <Uniju> 
i agree
 <Freakworld> 
yes
 <Nyrie> 
yeah
 <NSY> 
yes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok we'll be moving onto the next one then
 <NSY> 
koopa cape was great
 <turb> 
what exactly are you guys voting on
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
A5 Favorite DK Game
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
(Donkey Kong Country, Donkey Kong Country 2, Donkey Kong Country 3, Donkey Kong 64, Diddy Kong Racing, Donkey Kong Country Returns/Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D, Donkey Kong Jr. Math, Donkey Kong (Arcade), Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, Donkey Kong Jungle Beat, Donkey Kong ‘94 (Game Boy))
 <turb> 
or agreeing to
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
so both Baby Park and Big Blue are being added?
 <turb> 
yes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
is that everything
 <NSY> 
yes
 <Tailmon> 
yeah
 <Nabber> 
does donkey konga count as a spin off
 <_2257> 
remove donkey kong 64
 <turb> 
i think so anton
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
change ‘ into '
 <mcd> 
this list is fine
 <Toadbert> 
no
 <_2257> 
(thats a joke)
 <NEXandGBX> 
dk games seem complete
 <Toadbert> 
that BETTER be a joke
 <NSY> 
nothing got more than one write in
 <Nyrie> 
is dkjr math a joke nominee or what
 <turb> 
we have jr math so it should be fine i think
 <turb> 
no it's serious
 <NSY> 
dk64 is great
 <Uniju> 
per turb
 <Freakworld> 
skip
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Chiaki_Nanami: ??
 <Nabber> 
if jr math is there i think we should add donkey konga
 <mcd> 
remove dk jr math
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Donkey Kong ‘94 (Game Boy)
 <mcd> 
(thats a joke)
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Donkey Kong '94 (Game Boy)
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
oh
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
does it matter
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
this list doesn't go on the wiki
 <_2257> 
i'm literally throwing up about the fact that anyone thinks dk64 is good
 <turb> 
jr math literally got more votes than dkc3
 <turb> 
so
 <turb> 
we need to keep it
 <Toadbert> 
its not the best
 <_2257> 
wow
 <Tailmon> 
i wouldn't mind removing dk jr math frankly but it never passes so
 <Toadbert> 
but its not not good
 <_2257> 
thats amazing turb
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
is it difficult to change it
 <Tailmon> 
wait really LOL
 <Gamefreak75> 
but i like some parts of dk64
 <Tailmon> 
skip
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
i like dk64
 <Gamefreak75> 
how much of a heathen am i
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
this does not mean it's necessarily good
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
okay this is a meme complaint, skip
 <Toadbert> 
<turb> jr math literally got more votes than dkc3
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
dinner has arrived, bbs
 <Freakworld> 
jr math is a valid entry imo
 <Nabber> 
does donkey konga have any votes?
 <Nyrie> 
skip
 <Toadbert> 
which was probably uniju and turb vs me
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'd rather not be pedantic about absolutely everything but no it's not difficult
 <_2257> 
only some parts of you are a heathen
 <turb> 
1 vote nabber
 <Gamefreak75> 
anyways skip
 <NEXandGBX> 
"jr math literally got more votes than dkc3" pff
 <Nyrie> 
12) O. Donkey Konga - 1 - 0.17%
 <Nabber> 
tragic
 <turb> 
i'd say skip
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if it's going to kill you I'll change it
 <Nabber> 
that game was my childhood
 <mcd> 
yeah removing jr math would be a big no no
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
it's not
 <Mariofan169> 
skip
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok
 <Nabber> 
skip i guess
 <_2257> 
pidgey why do you prefer straight quotes to curly ones anyway
 <Uniju> 
skip
 <NSY> 
skip
 <DragonFreak> 
skip
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
the wiki
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
that's it
 <_2257> 
curly ones are technically more correct
 <NEXandGBX> 
skip
 <NEXandGBX> 
almost typed that as dkip
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we'll be skipping A5 then
 <Tailmon> 
donkey kong ip
 <Tailmon> 
but what does ip stand for
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Intellectual Property
 <NEXandGBX> 
donkey kong's ip address
 <Nyrie> 
in pants
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
A6 Favorite Wario Game
 <Gamefreak75> 
ixpand pong
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
(Wario Land, Wario Land 3, Wario Land 4, Mega Party Game$!, Twisted, Touched, Smooth Moves, Master of Disguise, Shake It!, D.I.Y., Wario World, Game & Wario, Wario Land 2)
 <Nyrie> 
skip
 <_2257> 
nothing new has been added to this, right
 <DragonFreak> 
skip
 <Gamefreak75> 
skip
 <NSY> 
i find it interesting that mega party games is there over the original
 <Uniju> 
skip
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
14) O. WarioWare: Mega Microgame$! - 2 - 0.38%
 <Tailmon> 
skip
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
is the only write-in
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so
 <Nabber> 
skip
 <Freakworld> 
skip
 <Meta_Knight> 
Skip
 <turb> 
skip
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I agree with skipping
 <NEXandGBX> 
skip
 <NSY> 
skip
 <Mariofan169> 
http://www.seriouseats.com/images/20110519-skippy.jpg
 <mcd> 
skip
 <Stooben> 
yeah skipaloo
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
also mega microgames is its european title
 <Toadbert> 
s k i p
 <DragonFreak> 
new wario land when
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
that is
 <Freakworld> 
when is a new warioware game
 <Nyrie> 
add warioware snapped
 <mcd> 
s k u p
 <Mariofan169> 
(that means skip)
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
mega party games = mega microgames
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
i think
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
A7 Favorite Yoshi Game (Yoshi’s Island, Yoshi’s Island DS, Tetris Attack, Yoshi’s Story, Yoshi Touch & Go, Yoshi’s Cookie, Yoshi, Yoshi Topsy-Turvy, Yoshi’s New Island, Yoshi’s Woolly World)
 <Freakworld> 
skip
 <Nyrie> 
skip
 <Nabber> 
skip
 <DragonFreak> 
skip
 <turb> 
skip
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
skip
 <Tailmon> 
skip
 <NEXandGBX> 
skip
 <Uniju> 
skip
 <mcd> 
yoshi
 <SonicMario> 
we're good :V
 <Stooben> 
uh
 <Mariofan169> 
skip
 <Toadbert> 
what about yoshi
 <Freakworld> 
wait tetris attack
 <Freakworld> 
is that a yoshi game
 <Gamefreak75> 
freakworld: after color splash, theyre made by the same company
 <Nabber> 
was warioware snapped the dsi game
 <Gamefreak75> 
also skip
 <turb> 
i don't know if tetris attack counts
 <Meta_Knight> 
Yeah
 <NSY> 
9) Yoshi’s Cookie - 4 - 0.68% 10) Yoshi Topsy-Turvy - 3 - 0.51% 11) O. Yoshi’s Safari - 2 - 0.34%
 <turb> 
we might have it on another award
 <SMB> 
Skip
 <Tailmon> 
i think it counts
 <NSY> 
maybe add yoshi's safari
 <_2257> 
tetris attack is on THIS award
 <Uniju> 
its all yoshi characters though
 <_2257> 
we dont need to add it again
 <turb> 
oh
 <Tailmon> 
yeah
 <mcd> 
add yoshi's safari to best soundtrack
 <turb> 
rofl
 <mcd> 
im serious
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
lmao
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
mcd we've passed A1
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
you're too late :(
 <Freakworld> 
2 write ins isnt enough to add yoshis safari tbh
 <Nyrie> 
tripels
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
turb: Tetris Attack is in Fave Puzzle Game, yes
 <Freakworld> 
at the very most replac topsy turvy with it if it needs to be
 <turb> 
i'd say it's fine on both awards
 <Toadbert> 
is tetris attack really enough to be a yoshi game
 <Toadbert> 
just having characters
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Is Tetris Attack something inherently related to Yoshi?
 <Toadbert> 
warios woods isnt in the wario games category
 <Nabber> 
i kinda want to add color splash for art direction
 <Nabber> 
but we haven't seen enough
 <Toadbert> 
and its got
 <Uniju> 
yoshi's cookie is also just yoshi cahracters though
 <Uniju> 
and yoshi
 <Toadbert> 
wario
 <_2257> 
yeah im not sure how a puzzle game could be MORE yoshi themed than tetris attack
 <Nabber> 
can we add super mario world for favorite art direction?
 <_2257> 
the theme of any puzzle game is basically just wallpaper
 <turb> 
im not sure we should be moving on to art direction yet
 <Freakworld> 
why super mario world
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
nabber, let's wait until those awards are actually, y'know
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
discussed
 <mcd> 
can we add yoshis safari for favourite art direction (im serious)
 <Nabber> 
oh sorry
 <_2257> 
theres not going to be anything "inherently yoshi" about puzzle mechanics
 <turb> 
also, i agree with 22
 <Nabber> 
i saw anton highlight it on the doc
 <Nabber> 
so i got confused
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
let's try to stay on topic
 <Nabber> 
sorry
 <Gamefreak75> 
its probably best to save "Can we add X to Y" when we get to the award
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok since there's debate on this I'll put it to a vote to finalize it
 <mcd> 
the back of yoshi's head has never been rendered so perfectly since
 <Toadbert> 
lol
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Remove Tetris Attack from A7? y/n/a
 <turb> 
n
 <Uniju> 
n
 <Nyrie> 
a
 <Freakworld> 
a
 <Stooben> 
n
 <_2257> 
n
 <Meta_Knight> 
N
 <mcd> 
n
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
n
 <NSY> 
n
 <Nabber> 
a
 <DragonFreak> 
a
 <SMB> 
N
 <Tailmon> 
n
 <Lakituthequick> 
a
 <Gamefreak75> 
n
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
gr8
 <Toadbert> 
y
 <SonicMario> 
n
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
n
 <Mariofan169> 
n
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
lmao tb
 <turb> 
fuck off tb
 <Nyrie> 
nanalan
 <Freakworld> 
idek tetris attack
 <Toadbert> 
fly a fuck turb
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I think we can move on, then
 <mcd> 
fire tb
 <mcd> 
y/n/y
 <_2257> 
tetris attack is a yoshi puzzle game from the snes
 <mcd> 
*y/y/y
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
FROM THE SNES
 <Tailmon> 
1-14-5
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
A8 Favorite Art Direction
 <_2257> 
isnt it??
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
(Yoshi's Island, Yoshi's Story, Super Mario Strikers, Paper Mario, Super Paper Mario, Super Mario RPG, Mario & Luigi, Donkey Kong Country, Super Mario Sunshine, Wario Land: Shake It, Yoshi's Woolly World, Super Mario Galaxy)
 <Freakworld> 
from the snes with love
 <_2257> 
i thought it was
 <NSY> 
12) Yoshi’s Story - 5 - 0.85% 13) O. Super Mario 64 - 3 - 0.51% 14) O. Paper Mario: Sticker Star - 2 - 0.34%
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
12 nominees
 <Tailmon> 
its also on game boy
 <Nabber> 
well now's the time
 <Nabber> 
can we add super mario world
 <turb> 
yeah its on snes
 <Tailmon> 
i have that version
 <Nabber> 
or did that not get any votes
 <turb> 
anyways uh
 <mcd> 
what was super mario 64's art direction again
 <NSY> 
yoshi story was overwelmingly last
 <_2257> 
i cant believe mario 64 was the top write in for this
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
15) O. Super Mario World - 1 - 0.17%
 <Toadbert> 
weird textyures
 <turb> 
super mario 64's was
 <Toadbert> 
spherical enemies
 <mcd> 
'n64'
 <turb> 
ig uess what tb said
 <Toadbert> 
because spheres are easy to render
 <Nabber> 
wtf smw looks great
 <Tailmon> 
what was 11th
 <Mariofan169> 
should sunshine be removed or
 <Freakworld> 
okay so one thing i didnt get why are there 2 iterations of paper mario
 <Nyrie> 
>super mario 64
 <Nabber> 
don't remove sunshine
 <Freakworld> 
*i didnt get is
 <Mariofan169> 
k
 <turb> 
because fw, the art is different between those two
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
sunshine got 5th
 <Freakworld> 
i guess so but idk
 <_2257> 
because spm had a lot of
 <turb> 
spm is a bunch of freakish deformed geometry people
 <Stooben> 
maybe i'm in the minority here but art direction is not something i'd praise super paper mario for
 <_2257> 
geometric shape characters
 <Nyrie> 
super mario rpg got 11th
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Yoshi's Story only got 5 votes though so if we're removing something solely for placement I think it should be that
 <turb> 
pm is paper mario characters
 <turb> 
the way god intended
 <Toadbert> 
parts of spm were pretty cool
 <Nabber> 
i kinda want to remove paper mario and put in ttyd
 <Toadbert> 
but other parts looked pretty half assed
 <Nabber> 
which i personally thought had better looking environments
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
How is SMRPG even special when compared to the rest of the SNES's library of games?
 <turb> 
i disagree with that
 <Uniju> 
super paper mario had bad art direction but i think it deserves a place on this list because it does have unique art direction, moreso than most mario games
 <Freakworld> 
what would we add though
 <Tailmon> 
i think pm covered both?
 <turb> 
smrpg was kind of clay styled
 <Meta_Knight> 
Yeah but if we do I feel we should remove spm too
 <Freakworld> 
other than color splash
 <turb> 
also yeah per uniju
 <_2257> 
per uniju
 <Freakworld> 
per uniju
 <Stooben> 
yea you got a point uni
 <_2257> 
ttyd is baaaasically pm64 but better
 <Tailmon> 
per uniju
 <NSY> 
i am opposed to removing spm
 <Nyrie> 
color splash
 <NSY> 
per uniju
 <Meta_Knight> 
Ttyd and spm look too similar to me
 <Nabber> 
how
 <_2257> 
spm actually looks unique
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
per uniju
 <Mariofan169> 
wait shit I have to go in 6 minutes
 <_2257> 
just, in a shit way
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
per uni
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
good luck mariofan
 <Freakworld> 
ttyd and spm are the same going by main chatacter sprites
 <SMB> 
<@_2257> ttyd is baaaasically pm64 but better
 <turb> 
but the rest of the art was completely different fw
 <Nabber> 
there's more to art direction than just sprites
 <Freakworld> 
yeah
 <SMB> 
Based on this, what if we made the Paper Mario option to include the first two?
 <Nabber> 
id support that i guess
 <turb> 
i think i would be ok with that
 <Nyrie> 
yeah
 <Freakworld> 
arguably theres a point though
 <Toadbert> 
thatd be ok for me
 <Nyrie> 
that works
 <Nabber> 
because i feel ttyd was a vast improvement on the graphics
 <mcd> 
should we just say paper mario series
 <mcd> 
merge everything
 <Nyrie> 
well no
 <Nabber> 
no because SPM has a different style
 <Toadbert> 
but spm is pretty different form the first two
 <Nyrie> 
because spm
 <_2257> 
but we want spm separate
 <Nyrie> 
and sticker star
 <Freakworld> 
paper mario looks different in every game except for ttyd and spm
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
no
 <_2257> 
and mean, sticker star changed things up too
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
he looks different in PM64
 <Nyrie> 
yeah
 <turb> 
that's what fw said though??
 <turb> 
also yeah sticker star changed things up but
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
no
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
how
 <turb> 
idk if we need to add it
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
I noticed nothing
 <Nyrie> 
everything is cardboard
 <Nyrie> 
and paper
 <turb> 
if you just go off of the literal sprite he's different
 <_2257> 
yeah i wasnt suggesting it, considering how poorly it did as a write-in
 <Uniju> 
id say ttyd and paper mario are different, ttyd goes a lot harder with the paper look. idk how objecctive an observation that is though
 <Freakworld> 
he looks different in sticker star yeah
 <Nabber> 
i think ttyd's environments look better too
 <turb> 
ttyd and paper mario are a bit different i think
 <Nabber> 
more stylized
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
oh
 <_2257> 
i'm just saying, the series isnt really all the same
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
we're talking about the entire game
 <SMB> 
<@Uniju> id say ttyd and paper mario are different, ttyd goes a lot harder with the paper look. idk how objecctive an observation that is though
 <turb> 
but idk if there's enough to consider them as separate as ttyd and spm
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so what's the tl;dr of the idea right now
 <SMB> 
This is true, though.
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
I thought we were talking about Mario too
 <Freakworld> 
every game looks kinda different
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
*Mario only
 <Nabber> 
like look and stuff like boggly woods and the x-naut base, i think those look really great
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
x_X
 <Nabber> 
anton we're either looking into merging paper mario and ttyd, or adding ttyd
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
i apologise
 <Freakworld> 
id still be in favor of merging them i guess
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
merging spm and ttyd?
 <NSY> 
im going to be controversial and say even though its still my least fav pm, sticker star had the best art direction out of the bunch
 <Nyrie> 
anton: i think merge pm64 and ttyd
 <_2257> 
and yeah ttyd did go harder with the paper thing
 <Nyrie> 
no
 <turb> 
merging PM and TTYD
 <Nabber> 
merging PM64 and TTYD
 <Meta_Knight> 
Twilight Town looks good too
 <turb> 
64, yeah
 <_2257> 
but
 <Nabber> 
i'd support adding TTYD separately
 <_2257> 
considering how poorly it did
 <_2257> 
i guess people didnt consider that distinctive?
 <_2257> 
maybe??
 <SMB> 
Anton: Somebody pointed out that there are two entires from the Paper Mario series.
 <Lakituthequick> 
TTYD and SPM look more like each other to me than TTYD and PM1
 <_2257> 
or maybe they just didnt think hard enough about this award to do write-ins
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
how would they be worded as a merge
 <Freakworld> 
per ltq
 <Nabber> 
SPM looks NOTHING like TTYD
 <NSY> 
per ltq
 <Lakituthequick> 
SPM also has pixels though
 <Mariofan169> 
gtg bye
 <turb> 
maybe not a merge but an addition
 <Stooben> 
really i'd like to see ttyd be separate too
 <_2257> 
per nabber
 <Lakituthequick> 
only real difference
 <turb> 
idk
 
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 <Toadbert> 
paper mario 64/ttyd?
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
listing just the two games in the same line is awkward
 <Nabber> 
yeah per toadbert
 <NSY> 
no merge
 <_2257> 
spm has a totally different art style
 <Freakworld> 
idk ttyd looks more different than pm64 imo if were going by that
 <_2257> 
idk how you can compare it to ttyd
 <SMB> 
I recommended a merge based on the idea that Paper Mario and TTYD might be considered more similar to each other than SPM.
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok let's put this to a vote
 <SMB> 
But
 <Tailmon> 
i don't really a strong stance on this
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
unless there's more discussion?
 <_2257> 
everything is much more schematical
 <NSY> 
sticker star's artsyle is pretty unique
 <SMB> 
I wanted to add one thing
 <NSY> 
but its ignored as the game wasnt very good
 <Toadbert> 
i feel like ttyd should at least be added on its own
 <Toadbert> 
separate from everything
 <turb> 
is ttyd even up for addition as its own separate writein though
 <SonicMario> 
I think if we vote on this at all we should vote first on if we think there should be a merge at all
 <turb> 
i guess it got a vote
 <Nabber> 
i think first we should do adding separately and then merge
 <_2257> 
yeah im not sure i really want ttyd on this
 <Toadbert> 
it only got one vote?
 <_2257> 
it did badly last year
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ttyd wins other awards by a large amount on a regular basis
 <SMB> 
I recommended a merge solely on the basis that TTYD was considered closer to Paper Mario's style than SPM's
 <_2257> 
yes, one vote
 <Toadbert> 
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkek
 <Nabber> 
if we added ttyd it might convince people to vote for it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm pretty sure it wasn't not voted because it got ignored
 <SMB> 
I don't necessarily support doing so, though.
 <turb> 
id rather we just either merge it with pm64 or not add it at all
 <turb> 
in my opinion
 <Nyrie> 
^^^
 <Toadbert> 
thats where i am
 <SMB> 
I worry that if we add Thousand Year Door, it...
 <_2257> 
per turb
 <SMB> 
Will have negative effects on either Paper Mario game?
 <_2257> 
honestly my preference is to leave it off though
 <turb> 
i doubt it
 <_2257> 
it can continue being a write-in
 <turb> 
there's probably not a significant chunk of people who thought ttyd looked like trash but pm64 was the best
 <NSY> 
paper mario and ttyd look very different
 <turb> 
or vice versa
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so I'm doing a vote then on the merging:
 <Meta_Knight> 
Yeah they look too different don't merge them
 <Nyrie> 
generally when you say "paper mario" people think of the artstyle of paper mario/ttyd
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Merge SPM and PM: TTYD? y/n/a
 <NSY> 
n
 <Uniju> 
n
 <Nabber> 
y
 <turb> 
n
 <SonicMario> 
N
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
n
 <SMB> 
N
 <Nyrie> 
n
 <Tailmon> 
n
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Toadbert> 
n
 <Stooben> 
n
 <DragonFreak> 
n
 <Meta_Knight> 
A
 <Freakworld> 
n
 <NEXandGBX> 
n
 <Gamefreak75> 
a
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok that's easy then
 <Nabber> 
oh this is spm
 <Nabber> 
change to n
 <Freakworld> 
ive changed my opinion on this
 <_2257> 
n
 <NSY> 
even though they are similar are im still against it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
wait fuck did I mess up
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
spm is the n64 one right
 <Nabber> 
no
 <turb> 
no
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i'm derping
 <Tailmon> 
1-15.5-2
 <SMB> 
No
 <Gamefreak75> 
no
 <Toadbert> 
no
 <Nyrie> 
no
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
fuck
 <Toadbert> 
lllllll
 <SonicMario> 
xD
 <Uniju> 
spm is the wii one
 <SMB> 
It's the Wii one
 <turb> 
pm64 is the n64 one
 <turb> 
spm is the wii one
 <Nyrie> 
uuuuuuuu
 <_2257> 
wow
 <turb> 
yeah
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I didn't play these games leave me alone
 <Lakituthequick> 
gr8
 <Tailmon> 
welp
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
22 you do this vote
 <Stooben> 
go home and play them
 <_2257> 
ok
 <Toadbert> 
play ttyd and come back kid
 <Nabber> 
anton you're unamerican or something
 <Uniju> 
i understand why you would get confused, super mario kart is the first mario kart and all the other ones dont have super. paper mario didnt follow that pattern though
 <_2257> 
merge ttyd with pm64 y/n/a
 <Nabber> 
unmarioan
 <Nabber> 
y
 <SonicMario> 
n
 <SMB> 
No
 <NSY> 
revote
 <NSY> 
n
 <Tailmon> 
a
 <turb> 
a
 <Nyrie> 
a
 <Uniju> 
a
 <Lakituthequick> 
n
 <Toadbert> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
well I mean I did ask a few times what we were even talking about so
 <Stooben> 
n
 <_2257> 
n
 <NEXandGBX> 
n
 <Freakworld> 
n
 <Gamefreak75> 
n
 <Nyrie> 
actually, change mine to n
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
n
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so same result
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
honest intentions~
 <_2257> 
ok
 <Toadbert> 
i thought there was more support for this
 <Tailmon> 
2-11-3
 <_2257> 
add ttyd as a separate thing y/n/a
 <turb> 
n
 <Nabber> 
y
 <Tailmon> 
a
 <Freakworld> 
a
 <_2257> 
n
 <Toadbert> 
a
 <NSY> 
a
 <Nyrie> 
n
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
n
 <SMB> 
A
 <Uniju> 
a
 <Stooben> 
y
 <SonicMario> 
y
 <NEXandGBX> 
a
 <Gamefreak75> 
its going to sweep this award
 <Gamefreak75> 
a
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
that's why we have the AC because I haven't played everything and can't provide an objective opinion on everything
 <_2257> 
i doubt it will sweep
 <Tailmon> 
4-4-7.5
 <Nabber> 
based on merit, i think ttyd definitely deserves the nomination
 <_2257> 
at most itll take some votes from the other two paper marios
 <Tailmon> 
the abstains have it
 <turb> 
i don't think ttyd deserves it to be honest
 <NSY> 
one person doing the awards would be a dictatorship anyway
 <_2257> 
but its not gonna affect the results of like
 <_2257> 
wooly world
 <_2257> 
no nsy, it would be a ralphfan
 <turb> 
i mean yeah sure it looked nice but it barely got writeins
 <Gamefreak75> 
well, people will see ttyd
 <Nabber> 
hot damn
 <Gamefreak75> 
and vote it
 <turb> 
plus we already have 2 paper marios
 <Uniju> 
is that a tie
 <Gamefreak75> 
because its ttyd
 <Tailmon> 
changing to n, 4-5-6.5
 <Nyrie> 
wew
 <Gamefreak75> 
probably dont even read the award
 <_2257> 
i dont think that actually happens
 <Nabber> 
way to leave us in the dust smasher
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
vote is too close with that many abstains
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if necessary we can move this decision to the forum to get a full AC vote
 <Gamefreak75> 
change my a to n
 <Meta_Knight> 
N
 <Stooben> 
such faith you have, gf
 <Tailmon> 
4-7-5.5
 <DragonFreak> 
n
 <Tailmon> 
4-8-5.5
 <Lakituthequick> 
per anton
 
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 <Freakworld_> 
back
 <Tailmon> 
i think it might be leaning enough towards no now
 <_2257> 
hi, we're voting on
 <_2257> 
add ttyd as a separate thing y/n/a
 <NSY> 
majority would be 10 if count the as
 <Freakworld_> 
ive already voted a i think
 <_2257> 
i guess that might not mean anyting to you though..
 <_2257> 
oh, ok
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok well with those changes it makes it a solid n, but again we will readdress this so if people's minds change then ______
 <_2257> 
i didnt know how long you were gone
 <NEXandGBX> 
<Freakworld> a
 <Freakworld_> 
idk i was disconnected during when people talked
 <_2257> 
was that all the topics we wanted to discuss for favorite art style
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
are there any other nominees worth considering?
 <NSY> 
yoshi's story?
 <Gamefreak75> 
to be fair stooben some of the winners in some of these polls have made me lose faith
 <_2257> 
yoshi's story is already there
 <Nyrie> 
only thing i can think of with a distinct art style is brawl
 <NSY> 
im not too fussed about this but its worth a vote
 <_2257> 
unless you want to remove it
 <Nyrie> 
and brawl got 0 write ins
 <Nyrie> 
so lol
 <Tailmon> 
i think we were considering removing yoshi's story
 <turb> 
12) Yoshi’s Story - 5 - 0.85%
 <_2257> 
but we've only got 12 nominees
 <turb> 
13) O. Super Mario 64 - 3 - 0.51%
 <turb> 
14) O. Paper Mario: Sticker Star - 2 - 0.34%
 <_2257> 
so i don't think its woeth it
 <DragonFreak> 
i say keep yoshi's story because whether or not it did badly, it is super unique
 <Tailmon> 
i personally would be fine with just moving on honestly
 <turb> 
per df
 <Nabber> 
per smash
 <turb> 
i'd be ok with moving on
 <Tailmon> 
per df too
 <Uniju> 
yeah id say yoshis story is a neccessity for the uniqueness
 <NSY> 
yh move on
 <DragonFreak> 
same
 <Freakworld_> 
per df and tailmon
 <_2257> 
per smasher
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok
 <Uniju> 
not that i think it was an ugly game personally
 <SMB> 
Per DragonFreak and Smasher.
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so tl;dr no changes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
lol
 <Lakituthequick> 
so verdict for a8 is
 <Nyrie> 
yes
 <Lakituthequick> 
ah.
 <Tailmon> 
nothing happened
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
hey we discussed shit
 <Lakituthequick> 
wut
 <Lakituthequick> 
lol
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
that's important
 <NSY> 
what a waste of time
 <DragonFreak> 
dont we just love when that happens lol
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
next up then is:
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
A9 Most Anticipated Upcoming Game (Yoshi’s Woolly World, Super Mario Maker, Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games, Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam, Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash)
 <Lakituthequick> 
holy crap how did that happen
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we're removing everything
 <_2257> 
delete fucking everything
 <Nyrie> 
oh boi
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
remove everything
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
delete
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and there's only 2 games that are coming
 <turb> 
add color splash and rio whatever
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
delet
 <_2257> 
dont even add the new paper mario
 <turb> 
i guess
 <_2257> 
or wait
 <Nabber> 
isn't rio still there
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
this award is probably getting nuked
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
rio's on there
 <turb> 
even though i dont reallyw ant to
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
we have to
 <DragonFreak> 
i guess keep mario and sonic rio
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
lol
 <Gamefreak75> 
except mario and sonic
 <turb> 
oh
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
also hi
 <_2257> 
we should add a "nothing" option tbh
 <Nyrie> 
just
 <NSY> 
rio will come out while the polls are open
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
i'm back
 <Nyrie> 
delete this award
 <Gamefreak75> 
add federation force
 <turb> 
yeah but nsy we've had situations like that before
 <Nabber> 
can we not add color splash because we all agreed to pretend it doesn't exist
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we need a minimum of 5 nominees and there's only 2 games right now
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
add Kirby: Planet Robobot
 <DragonFreak> 
per 22
 <turb> 
it counts as long as it's after the polls
 
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 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
make this entire award blue
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Mario & Sonic and Color Splash
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
for now
 <Freakworld_> 
delete this ward unless e3 has 10 new mario games
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
what we need to do is:
 <turb> 
i would say keep this award for now, but make it blue
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yes, e3
 <turb> 
and then delete it if e3 is a disaster
 <Gamefreak75> 
thisis an e3 thing yeah
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
when is E3
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we have a time set for an E3 meeting
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
yeah
 <turb> 
while creating backups in the meantime
 <NSY> 
im almost certain they will be something at e3
 <Nyrie> 
mario and sonic at the colour splash olympics
 <NEXandGBX> 
Mario & Sonic and Knuckles
 <Gamefreak75> 
mario and sonic and color splash & knuckles
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if E3 shits out a bunch of games then this award will stay
 <turb> 
we should just add pikmin 4
 <Tailmon> 
mario and sonic number 5 vs the new sticker star
 <mcd> 
what about the mini mario amiibo thing
 <Nabber> 
paper mario color splash 3d
 <Tailmon> 
a clash of the titans
 <Toadbert> 
mario and cory baxter
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but in the meantime it's effectively removed and we will need to replace it
 <turb> 
i think that's coming out soon mcd
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
mcd: it comes out too soon
 <turb> 
or it already has
 <NSY> 
what would be a minimum?
 <mcd> 
also won't rio already by out by the time the award happens
 <NSY> 
for this
 <Tailmon> 
5
 <turb> 
by the time the award is presented
 <turb> 
but the polls start before it comes out
 <Gamefreak75> 
mini mario is in april think
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
rio will be out a week after polls start
 <mcd> 
oh ok
 <Gamefreak75> 
i think
 <turb> 
we've had a similar situation one year iirc
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so it technically can get in lol
 <Nabber> 
paper mario: counter strike
 <turb> 
with game and wario
 <turb> 
and we kept it on
 <Nyrie> 
replace it with favourite level theme
 <NSY> 
4 would be suggestion
 <_2257> 
add the inevitable next vc rereleases of smb, smb3, and smw
 <Freakworld_> 
and woolly world
 <Freakworld_> 
which was already out in europe i think
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so yeah again it's effectively removed and we'll be moving on shortly
 <_2257> 
literally more hyped for that than for sticker star 2
 <Freakworld_> 
xD
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Wait, hang on.
 <Freakworld_> 
same
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we'll readdress it when E3 comes
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Can we make a backup award now so we don' t have to do the legwork later on?
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
*don't
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
that's the idea
 <turb> 
it'll be addressed later afaik
 <turb> 
the backup award
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
no, I'd rather do that later
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Why?
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
when we know just how many new awards we'll need
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
we're coming up with new nominees between now and E3
 <Gamefreak75> 
to save time
 <Gamefreak75> 
it can be done on the forum
 <NSY> 
problem with making a backup award now is that it would go down waste
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
because we don't even know how many awards we're removing
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Why do we need to save time if we have oceans of it?
 <NSY> 
if we put this back
 <Uniju> 
why stop in the middle when we could do it after
  
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
again
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we need to know just how many new awards we'll need
 <Toadbert> 
what work can even be done on this
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
because new awards aren't considered individually
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
they are compared to each other
 <Toadbert> 
all we know of its theres a new paper mario and thats it
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
also, it just flows better to review all awards, chuck out bad ones
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I've already provided a list of new award ideas
 <Tailmon> 
i'd rather move on for now
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
and then create allnew wawards
 <NSY> 
i would have the backup award in place
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
between now and then if you would like to work on it you can think up nominees and discuss it on the boards
 <Nabber> 
anton can i suggest an idea for you to put on the list
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
because so far none of them have any
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok
 <Nabber> 
best sound effects in a game?
 <Nabber> 
i personally think sound effects contribute a lot to the mood
 <Gamefreak75> 
super mario maker wins that
 <DragonFreak> 
birdo's voice please
 <Toadbert> 
JUST WHAT I NEEDED
 
Chiaki_Nanami gets a coin
 <Freakworld> 
dont mario games all have the same sound effects
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'll put it on the list, bring me some nominees later
 <Nabber> 
no fraek
 <Nyrie> 
the cricket noise badge from ttyd
 <Nabber> 
besides the jumping noise
 <Freakworld> 
thats what it sounds like
 <Gamefreak75> 
toadbert: to be fair, i actually like the voices in those
 <Nabber> 
and maybe coins
 <Uniju> 
smb2 gba voices in general were great
 <Toadbert> 
i didnt like the gba voices
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Okay, my complaint is irrelevant now, we can move on if that's desirable.
 <Toadbert> 
i kinda wished theyd have stayed silent like before
 <Gamefreak75> 
also yeah lets move on
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
A10 Favorite Partner Developer (AlphaDream, Intelligent Systems, HAL Laboratory, Hudson Soft, Camelot Software Planning, Next Level Games, Namco Bandai Games, Good-Feel, Square-Enix, SEGA, Retro Studios)
 <_2257> 
i never played smb2 on gba but yoshis island on gba had terrible voices
 <_2257> 
i miss silent yoshi
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
there was some discussion on this...........somewhere
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I think last year
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I only remember it but couldn't find it so it easily could've been a chat discussion
 <_2257> 
rare got 5 votes
 <Gamefreak75> 
is there anything that needs to be changed?
 <NSY> 
2: Add a "Favourite Internal Development team" award, since there's a third-party one. There's definitely enough material on the wiki to get an idea of who the nintendo development teams are and what games they do.
 <_2257> 
camelot got 9
 <NSY> 
Gamefreak75 suggested
 <Freakworld> 
was good feel the ones who made mp9 and 10
 <Uniju> 
is there a reason rare isnt on here
 <Uniju> 
doesnt everybody love dkc
 <_2257> 
rare being a write-in, camelot not
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
no, that was ndCube
 <Toadbert> 
yes uniju
 <Freakworld> 
oh
 <Freakworld> 
okay
 <SMB> 
Are these only current partners?
 <Toadbert> 
also dk64
 <DragonFreak> 
why isn't rare an option?
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
nobody loves the sports gmes :V
 <turb> 
was our issue with rare having them buttfuck the award
 <NSY> 
i would have the new idea merged with this
 <Freakworld> 
hudson isnt current
 <turb> 
i wouldn't
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
good feel was woolly world
 <_2257> 
everyone hated dk64
 <turb> 
that sounds like a bad idea
 <Tailmon> 
rare is dead
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
I liked DK64
 <Stooben> 
yeah the only reason i can think of rare being left off of this is microsoft, but that's a little silly
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
to a certain extent
 <Freakworld> 
they havent done anything since mpds i think
 <Toadbert> 
who could forget star fox adventures
 <_2257> 
turb i dont think so
 <SMB> 
I support adding Rare due to their past involvement with Donkey Kong.
 <NSY> 
only you hated dk64 _2257
 <Meta_Knight> 
Don't get rid of Hudson
 <Uniju> 
hudson literally doesnt exist anymore do they
 <turb> 
i hated dk64
 <NSY> 
and you
 <_2257> 
if by only me you mean everyone, then yes
 <Meta_Knight> 
It got 3rd I think
 <Gamefreak75> 
hudson was eaten by konami
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Hudson was bought by Konami
 <Gamefreak75> 
and konami is pretty much dead
 <Freakworld> 
its been ages since hearing about bomberman
 <turb> 
also idk i guess thinking about it a bit more we could probably cherrypick the best stuff from each and merge them
 <_2257> 
but lets talk about it later
 <Freakworld> 
oh thats why
 <turb> 
but i'm not sure
 <turb> 
i guess it can be brought up later
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Why was this award added anyway?
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if we can get nominees for the Internal Development Team idea then we can consider it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
because we needed one and people liked it
 <Freakworld> 
nominees:
 <Freakworld> 
nintendo
 <Nabber> 
not a huge fan of nintendo's games rn
 <Uniju> 
how many voters are actually nerdy enough to keep track of internal development teams
 <Uniju> 
im not
 <NSY> 
if we're going to do internal development team we should have examples in brackets
 <Freakworld> 
deerforce tbh
 <Nyrie> 
i personally think that this award isn't really necessary
 <Toadbert> 
wouldnt this just be voting on who made the game you liekd best anyway
 <_2257> 
maybe we need a dosiser
 <_2257> 
lol
 <Lakituthequick> 
then people will vote on the game and not the devteam
 <Toadbert> 
but like uniju said
 <Toadbert> 
does anyone actually keep up with these teams
 <Toadbert> 
besides look at their logo when you start the game
 <Lakituthequick> 
i know i dont at least
 <_2257> 
i dont
 <Nyrie> 
i dont
 <Freakworld> 
well intelligent systems might have more of a shot because of fire emblem
 <_2257> 
internal devteam is even worse though
 <Lakituthequick> 
the credits say "nintendo"
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
well, the only change to this award regarding nominees now I'm seeing is whether to add Rare or not
 <SonicMario> 
I do think people probably vote for the companies because of things outside of Mario. Like I'm pretty sure Sega gets Top 5 at least just because of Sonic and not for their work with Nintendo on Mario games (Which is only Olympics and to a lesser extent Smash)
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
for Internal Development Team we'd need to brainstorm ideas
 <Tailmon> 
yeah thats the only real suggestion
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
that takes time, so we will do that on the forum
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if people would like I can set up a topic for it after the meeting
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we can always merge them afterwards
 <Gamefreak75> 
yeah
 <NSY> 
go ahead
 <SMB> 
Are we considering removing entire awards, though?
 <Tailmon> 
remove every award
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'd rather not remove this award
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
what's the reason
 <Tailmon> 
i dont see the need to remove this award in all seriousness
 <NEXandGBX> 
remove mario awards x
 <Freakworld> 
remove all awards except for favorite koopaling
 <Gamefreak75> 
well right now, upcoming game is on the chopping block
 <Gamefreak75> 
and i think sms/sm64 level is there too
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and galaxy
 <NSY> 
we should re add paon back to this award
 <SMB> 
A couple of people above questioned whether voters would be likely to pay attention to which teams make the games.
 <Nyrie> 
so is favorite koopaling
 <Nyrie> 
and 3d world level
 <Tailmon> 
favorite koopaling is on the chopping block too i think
 <Gamefreak75> 
poor galaxy
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
smb that was regarding internal teams
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
not this award
 <Tailmon> 
didn't paon literally get
 <NSY> 
(joke)
 <Tailmon> 
0 votes
 <Gamefreak75> 
remember when we spent 2 meetings on favorite galaxy alone
 <Gamefreak75> 
good times
 <Tailmon> 
the one time --oh
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
unless I misread
 <Uniju> 
yeah i was talking about internal dev teams when i said that
 <Meta_Knight> 
What's the difference
 <Toadbert> 
i was too
 <SMB> 
Oh, okay, that makes sense.
 <SonicMario> 
SMS/SM64 and Galaxy is more being up for being merged for Favorite 3D Level in general.
 <Uniju> 
i think people are pretty aware of hal doing smash and intelligent systems doing paper mario and stuff
 <Toadbert> 
but if i was to vote on this award right now
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
tailmon; yes
 <Freakworld> 
hal does smash
 <Nyrie> 
[21:21:52] SonicMario SMS/SM64 and Galaxy is more being up for being merged for Favorite 3D Level in general.
 <Toadbert> 
i would just figure out who made the game i like best
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
paon got 0 votes
 <Toadbert> 
and vote that
 <Nyrie> 
and 3d world level
 <Toadbert> 
and its basically just "best third party developed game"
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so let's discuss Rare then
 <Nyrie> 
brb
 <Tailmon> 
i don't even know what paon did
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Paon?
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
why or why not
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
i believe it was the first time in the history of the awards that any full nomnee ever got 0 votes
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
what is Paon
 <Freakworld> 
im in support of rare
  
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
why
 <NSY> 
dk jungle climber
 <_2257> 
why: everyone loves dkc 1-3
 <NSY> 
also i would have rare in
 <Toadbert> 
rare is a yes for me
 <_2257> 
why not: everyone hates dk64
 <SMB> 
Their involvement with the Donkey Kong series, both as a second- and third-party.
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
I want Rare in
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
In Rare's absence, rights to work and build upon the Donkey Kong series were given to Paon. Thus far, they have presented fans with games such as DK: King of Swing, DK: Jungle Climber, and Donkey Kong Barrel Blast. Paon also co-developed Mario & Luigi: Dream Team alongside with AlphaDream.
 <Freakworld> 
theyre dead but still legandary devs
 <Stooben> 
suggestion: favorite meme
 <Toadbert> 
no stooben what have you done
 <Tailmon> 
rare did some major donkey kong games so in favor of them
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i'm to young to die, stoob
 <NSY> 
also
 <Uniju> 
i dont really see any reason for rare not to be on other than that they dont make mario games ANYMORE but thats dumb because theres lots of people on here who made like two games 10-20 years ago anyway
 <turb> 
i thought we removed paon because they had no votes
 <NSY> 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paon
 <Uniju> 
like square
 <turb> 
like, literally no votes
 <Tailmon> 
suggestion: throw stooben out the window
 <Stooben> 
n
 <NEXandGBX> 
half-a press would win by a landslide
 <mcd> 
y
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
suggestion: make this meeting stop derailing
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we do have room to add Paon
 <Gamefreak75> 
n
 <Tailmon> 
we did we just dont know what paon did
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
pidgey relax things are under control
 <Tailmon> 
i don't think
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if there's a problem I'm sure I can handle it
 <_2257> 
0 votes though
 <Tailmon> 
anyone seriously wants to bring back paon
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
okay
 <Tailmon> 
i think we can just vote on rare
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah let's do that
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
I didn't know Paon existed prior to this meeting
 <mcd> 
"Through a partnership with Nintendo, the company has developed DK: King of Swing, DK: Jungle Climber and Donkey Kong Barrel Blast."
 <Freakworld> 
me neither
 <mcd> 
i literally forgot these games existed
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Add Rare back to A10? y/n/a
 <SMB> 
Yes
 <_2257> 
i forget paon exists every year tbh
 <Uniju> 
y
 <Toadbert> 
y
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
y
 <Freakworld> 
y
 <Tailmon> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <_2257> 
y
 <mcd> 
y
 <Stooben> 
y
 <NSY> 
y
 <Freakworld> 
why was rare removed in the first place
 <Meta_Knight> 
Y
 <Tailmon> 
it wasn't
 <_2257> 
i dont know if they were
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
y
 <Tailmon> 
it was never on the award
 <_2257> 
i don't think they wer-- yeah
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
is there some special fancy official name for it
 <Freakworld> 
oh because it said add back
 <Stooben> 
also bad
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
or is it just "Rare"
 <Lakituthequick> 
i remember discussions about paon and thats what tought me about its existance
 <DragonFreak> 
y
 <SMB> 
Rare, Ltd.
 <Toadbert> 
rareware
 <Nabber> 
y
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
it used to be Rareware
 <SMB> 
Or Rareware
 <Freakworld> 
per smb
 <Toadbert> 
is what they were called when they were with nintendo
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
but it's just
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Rare
 <Toadbert> 
now theyre rare
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
also yeah, don't add Paon back
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
literally nobody cares about them
 <Toadbert> 
i think it should be "rareware" on the award
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
we saw that for a fact
 <Tailmon> 
15-0-0
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if Rareware is what they were when with Nintendo then I think that's more appropriate
 <Tailmon> 
i think we're saying no
 <_2257> 
what does the wiki article call them
 <Freakworld> 
was gonna suggest brownie brown but then realized thats internal
 <mcd> 
no smasher
 <Freakworld> 
im brainafk
 <mcd> 
we're abstaining
 <_2257> 
we should follow that imo
 <mcd> 
duh
 <SMB> 
The wiki calls them Rare
 <Tailmon> 
oh ok
 <Lakituthequick> 
Rare Ltd.
 <NSY> 
i suggested that as a joke and you guys took it seriously
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
we're saying yes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Rare Ltd. so
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok that
 <SMB> 
Rare Ltd.
 <Gamefreak75> 
we voting on rare?
 <turb> 
people are going to understand it whether its rare or rareware so it should be ok i think
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
did we do it
 <Gamefreak75> 
sorry i went to get something
 <NSY> 
the most recent mario universe game was under that name
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
rare has been added
 <Tailmon> 
yeah gf
 <Tailmon> 
vote yes anyway
 <Gamefreak75> 
oh ok
 <Stooben> 
yes gamefreak you missed a very rare opportunity
 <Tailmon> 
it won't matter
 <Toadbert> 
HA
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
stooben no
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
why
 
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 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
FUNNY MEME
 
Tailmon throws stooben out the window
 <Stooben> 
nooooooo
 <Mariofan169> 
back, woo
 <Freakworld> 
wew lad
 <mcd> 
ban stooben from the awards
 <mcd> 
i vote y and my vote counts for 1000
 <Mariofan169> 
did it already emd
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
is there anything else big to discuss with this award, barring the Internal Development discussion which will be moved to the forum?
 <Stooben> 
mcd you just have it out for me
 <Gamefreak75> 
i dont think so
 <Tailmon> 
not really
 <Freakworld> 
skip
 <mcd> 
yes
 <mcd> 
how dare you revive me
 <Tailmon> 
no mf there's still a half hour left
 <mcd> 
i was in the midst of a very enjoyable afterlife
 <Mariofan169> 
ah ok
 <Stooben> 
you revived yourself dummy
 <_2257> 
skip
 <mcd> 
you were the one who gave me this power
 <Gamefreak75> 
skip
 <Tailmon> 
!skip
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
skip
 <mcd> 
ship
 <mcd> 
fuck
 <mcd> 
skip
 <Mariofan169> 
skip to my lou my darling
 <Stooben> 
good point
 <Stooben> 
and yea skip
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
A11 Favorite Major Character (Mario, Luigi, Peach, Yoshi, Wario, Donkey Kong, Bowser, Rosalina)
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
skip tbh
 <Tailmon> 
skip
 <Mariofan169> 
skip
 <_2257> 
add pink gold peach
 <Lakituthequick> 
just skip this one
 <Byerie> 
wait
 <DragonFreak> 
skip
 <mcd> 
toad?
 <Stooben> 
dammit 22
 <Freakworld> 
add lanky kong
 <Gamefreak75> 
skip (rip waluigi :( :( :( )
  
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 <Freakworld> 
skip
 <Meta_Knight> 
Skip
 <Toadbert> 
says 22 "i hate dk64" 57
 <SMB> 
I agree with 22
 <Nyrie> 
shouldn't bowser jr be added
 <mcd> 
or wait is toad minor character
 <Uniju> 
skip
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
he's in the next one
 <Nyrie> 
he's in a lot of games
 <_2257> 
no, everyone hates dk64
 <NSY> 
skip
 <Nabber> 
i still can't believe rosalina is a major character now
 <_2257> 
get it right
 <Nyrie> 
yeah but
 <Lakituthequick> 
supporting character he is
 <mcd> 
hes not in mario kart 8
 <mcd> 
or 7
 <Toadbert> 
i do not agree
 <Nabber> 
but i think we should add bowser jr if rosalina is major
 <Nyrie> 
if rosalina is a major charcater
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Hang on, why are we chopping Favourite Koopaling but not this? What is the distinction anyway?
 <Freakworld> 
toad is even in spm very briefly
 <Nyrie> 
bowser jr should be
 <mcd> 
the only recent spinoff i can remember him appearing in is the new tennis game
 <_2257> 
koopalnigs are a boring and closed set of boring boredom
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
pidgey are you seriously considering removing Favorite Character
 <SMB> 
Rosalina has been shoehorned in as a major character.
 <mcd> 
(and smash bros but that doesnt really count)
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
ok
 <SMB> 
By Nintendo, that is
 <Freakworld> 
the koopalings arent distinct enough
 <Nyrie> 
i mean, he's in a LOT more games than rosalina
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
i'm kind of tired x_X
 <mcd> 
hes in a lot more games than rosalina bc he's older
 <Nyrie> 
why is rosalina a major character now anyway
 <Freakworld> 
its 3:30
 <Uniju> 
because shes hot
 <Freakworld> 
understandabl
 <Freakworld> 
e
 <Nyrie> 
because she was in spin offs?
 <mcd> 
rosalina's in like every spinoff game nowadays
 <Nyrie> 
so is toad
 <Nyrie> 
so wouldn't he count
 <SMB> 
Probably due to spin-offs, and SM3DWorld
 
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 <Tailmon> 
you know after thinking about it it might be ok to remove bj from minor and add him to this
 <Nyrie> 
so is daisy
 <Tailmon> 
or something
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Toad was in that too
 <Uniju> 
also shes actually playable in a main series game released in the past 30 years unlike toad
 <Gamefreak75> 
have you not been paying attention to rosalina in the past 3 years
 <Freakworld> 
i oppose tailmon
 <Freakworld> 
actually
 <_2257> 
wasnt toad playable in 3d land like last year
 <Nyrie> 
okay i can understand that rosalina is in a lot of games but
 <_2257> 
3d world
 <_2257> 
whatever
 <Nabber> 
i support smasher
 <turb> 
he was in 3d woorld yeah
 <_2257> 
theyre all the same
 <Nyrie> 
so are daisy, toad, and bowser jr
 <Uniju> 
oh yeah he was
 <Tailmon> 
i oppose freakworld's existence
 <Freakworld> 
bowser jr is still missing in a lot of regular spin offs
 <Meta_Knight> 
3d world
 <SonicMario> 
It should probably be noted Rosalina faired pretty well in the Major character department. Only beaten by the usual contenders Mario, Yoshi, and Luigi
 <Nyrie> 
and the koopalings for that matter lol
 <Uniju> 
i forgot about the toad minigame levels because they were so boring i never even played them
 <NSY> 
i would get toad back in
 <turb> 
no like
 <Tailmon> 
i wouldn't mind toad either but not daisy
 <Nyrie> 
i don't think we should remove rosalina
 <Freakworld> 
like mario party iirc and mk8
 <turb> 
hes playable normally too
 <turb> 
blue toad
 <Nyrie> 
i think we should add toad and bowser jr
 <Uniju> 
oh
 <SMB> 
I'd be okay with Toad, and perhaps Bowser Jr.
 <mcd> 
id add toad
 <Freakworld> 
adding bowser jr to major character would be like adding diddy kong
 
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 <NSY> 
no to daisy, no to waluigi, no to removing rosalina
  
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 <Nabber> 
i don't think so
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
what's the definitions between Major and Minor
 <NSY> 
unsure on jr
 <mcd> 
but bowser jr isnt even in the most recent mario kart
 <Nabber> 
bowser jr is in a lot of platformers
 <SMB> 
Daisy is clearly a background character and Nintendo is treating her as such.
 <_2257> 
tbh anton
 <Uniju> 
yeah bowser jr isnt that major, also i hate him
 <Freakworld> 
id be okay with toad though
 <Gamefreak75> 
major: nintendo doesnt hate them
 <_2257> 
its whatever we feel like
 <_2257> 
it always has been
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I know
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so what is it
 <Gamefreak75> 
minor: nintendo hates them
 <mcd> 
and probably never will be because nintendo seem to have forgotten mario kart 8 actually exists
 <SMB> 
Yeah, what GF said
 <Uniju> 
so paper mario fans are minor characters?
 <Nyrie> 
bowser jr has been in nearly every main series game since his first appearance
 <_2257> 
also what, they removed bowser jr from mk8??
 <Freakworld> 
yeah uniju
 <Gamefreak75> 
yes
 <Stooben> 
lol uniju
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
yes
 <Gamefreak75> 
22
 <NSY> 
yes
 <_2257> 
wow
 <_2257> 
thats really weird
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
before we swap things in and out of Major and Minor on a larger scale we need to define the difference between them
 <NSY> 
paper mario 1, ttyd and spm are minor games
 <NSY> 
sticker star is major
 <Freakworld> 
bowser jr a
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
rather than arbitrary things between each individual character
 <_2257> 
especially considering the 90000 koopalings got in
 <Freakworld> 
hasnt been in the 2 latest 3d games
 <Gamefreak75> 
well, having your own game counts as being major right
 <Tailmon> 
id classify major as a character making major appearances in the main mario platformers and/or having their own subseries
 <Gamefreak75> 
so mario, luigi, peach, dk, and wario are there by default
 <SMB> 
<@NSY> paper mario 1, ttyd and spm are minor games
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
for reference,
 <SMB> 
<@NSY> sticker star is major
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Favorite Supporting Character (Daisy, Waluigi, Toadsworth, Diddy Kong, Bowser Jr., Toad, E. Gadd, Toadette, Captain Toad)
 <SMB> 
lel
 <Freakworld> 
and yoshi
 <Stooben> 
and bowser's kinda obvious
 <Uniju> 
i dont think youre ever going to get a reasonable concise definition of major vs minor that actually makes for nice evenly sized awards honestly
 <Nabber> 
im not sure we can define major vs minor
 <turb> 
bowser also kind of had his own game/is obvious
 <_2257> 
per
 <turb> 
if you count bis
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm not looking to write the dictionary
 <Gamefreak75> 
yeah there really is not going to be a concise definition for this
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm looking for a level of consistency
 <Nabber> 
this isn't like DKVine where there are Rools fo everything
 <Freakworld> 
where starfox is dku?
 <Lakituthequick> 
it's 'supporting', not 'minor'
 <Lakituthequick> 
blurry line sometimes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
pedantic
 <Freakworld> 
starfox assault for best dk game
 <_2257> 
thats like the same thing lol
 <_2257> 
unless you want to argue that bj cant be supporting because he's an antagonist
 <_2257> 
(don't argue that)
 <Nyrie> 
bj cant be supporting because he's an antagonist
 <Lakituthequick> 
well... *shot*
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
supporting antagonist
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
he's oj
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
*ok
 <_2257> 
also i really hate calling him bj because it makes me think of blow job but im too lazy to type his name out
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
100% oj?
 <Nyrie> 
bowj
 <mcd> 
100% bj
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
:poshjr:
 <Toadbert> 
bowser job
 <Stooben> 
oj simpson
 <SonicMario> 
Not even just Junior, 22?
 <mcd> 
oh god
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so being featured in your own game
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
what else
 <Toadbert> 
being playable in other games
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
huge role in a main series game
 <Nyrie> 
consistently appearing in spin-offs
 <Nyrie> 
i guess
 <Nyrie> 
??
 <Freakworld> 
being in pinoffs regu- yeah
 <DragonFreak> 
dies daisy count then
 <DragonFreak> 
*does
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
otherwise we'd have to move Captain Toad up to Major
 <DragonFreak> 
since she's in all the spinoffs
 <_2257> 
no, nobody likes daisy
 <SonicMario> 
*Junior or Jr.
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
daisy's been nothing since like 1990
 <Nyrie> 
well she ONLY appears in spinoffs
 <SMB> 
Rosalina was not featured in her own game
 <_2257> 
she's the dk64 of games
 <Freakworld> 
daisy didnt have her own game
 <SMB> 
So would she be moved to Supporting?
 <Nyrie> 
smb: she was playable in 3d world
 <mcd> 
she's the dk64 of games?
 <Nyrie> 
which is pretty big
 <DragonFreak> 
you mean the dk64 of characters
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Rosalina was a central character, though
 <mcd> 
i thought dk64 was the dk64 of games
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
her game was SMG
 <_2257> 
yeah yeah you know what i mean
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
she was not playable in SMG
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
tbh if we're moving bowser jr. up to major then it's implying rosalina stays too
 <mcd> 
are we also moving up toad
 <_2257> 
nintendo should just solve this for us by creating super mario galaxy 3: super rosalina galaxy
 <Nyrie> 
right now my opinion is: move bowser jr and toad into major characters, keep everything else
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
i feel like the only reason we're moving him up is because a bunch of people in the ac like him as a character
 <Nyrie> 
i dont like him lol
 <_2257> 
costarring JUNIOR
 <turb> 
i dont like him lol
 <Nyrie> 
but he's in almost every single main series game
 <Freakworld> 
imo major can stay like this
 <Nyrie> 
since sunshine obviously
 <Freakworld> 
no nyrie
 <Freakworld> 
sm3dl
 <Freakworld> 
sm3dw
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
no one's debating toad because everyone seems set on him so let's vote that first if everyone's ready
 <Nyrie> 
i couldve sworn he was in 3d land
 <Freakworld> 
no
 <mcd> 
the thing is
 <Nyrie> 
guess not
 <_2257> 
oh god
 <mcd> 
bowser jr appears in quite a few games
 <_2257> 
please
 <_2257> 
oh ok
 <mcd> 
but he never really plays a major role
 <_2257> 
you said 'the thing is' and i thought you were about to start a toad identity debate
 <turb> 
he was major in sms i guess
 <_2257> 
it was scary
 <mcd> 
like in some games you only fight him a couple of times
 <Meta_Knight> 
I support having Rosalina stay
 <Meta_Knight> 
But I feel like Bowser jr hasn't made a main series appearance
 <Meta_Knight> 
Last major thing I remember is sm4sh
 <turb> 
he was the secondary villain of smg
 <_2257> 
also in sms he was basically the main antagoniist
 <turb> 
yeah
 <_2257> 
bowser was mostly a acameo at the end
 <turb> 
bowser just fucked off in a hot tub
 <turb> 
for 99%
 <mcd> 
apart from sms
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
secondary villains implies kamek
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
when's kamek
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
SMS was his game
 <Lakituthequick> 
just now anton wanted to vote on toad
 <Lakituthequick> 
?
 <Nyrie> 
bowser jr also is really big in the nsmb games
 <Freakworld> 
kamek 4 major character
 <mcd> 
yes but if it wasnt for bowser, bowser jr never would have been born
 <turb> 
kamek could probably qualify for major if we're adding bowser jr to be hoenst
 <Freakworld> 
xD
 <_2257> 
was bowser jr born?
 <_2257> 
koopas hatch from eegs
 <Toadbert> 
jr troopa
 <Lakituthequick> 
storks
 
Chiaki_Nanami presses Z+B
 <mcd> 
and where do eggs come from
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
like, my personal definition of Major Character is like
 <Freakworld> 
mama peach tho
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
the main cast
 <Nyrie> 
when has rosalina played a major role in a game besides smg
 <_2257> 
from peach
 <mcd> 
should we define major as in "in super smash bros"
 <SMB> 
"Big Eight"
 <_2257> 
smg2, she stood around a bit
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
like, ugh, for example bsg and only like 4 people will understand this
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
only Six and Eight were major characters
 <_2257> 
3dw, she uh
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Three was minor
 <Tailmon> 
she was playable in 3d world
 <_2257> 
was playable
 <Tailmon> 
thats pretty major
 <Nyrie> 
but
 <Nyrie> 
she was only unlocked after beating the main story.............
 <turb> 
was three really minor
 <turb> 
i guess she was
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yes
 <NSY> 
in smash as well
 <turb> 
even though she received a lot of focus in that one arc
 <SMB> 
I'd say Rosalina counts as major.
 <turb> 
she wasn't major overall
 <Lakituthequick> 
(is this going to be like a8 and not actually change anything)
 <SMB> 
The comment I made earlier was simply to get a clarification.
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
One was minor
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and he was like
 <_2257> 
you had to beat every level with rosalina to beat the game 1000% though
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
literally the main villain
 <Nyrie> 
i'm not saying that we should remove rosalina
 <SMB> 
The way I see it: Nintendo is forcing Rosalina to be relevant.
 <Nyrie> 
what i'm saying is that if rosalina qualifies, i don't see why bowser jr shouldn't
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah I agree with SMB
 <_2257> 
oh
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
nintendo is really pushing rosalina
 <_2257> 
ok
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
that's why she's in major
 <Freakworld> 
i think so ltq unless people want toad in
 <turb> 
i would say rosalina is major 100%
 <_2257> 
i wouldnt be opposed to adding JUNIOR anyway
 <NSY> 
per smb
 <Tailmon> 
i'm still fine with adding both toad and junior
 <SonicMario> 
Regardless if we feel differently I think we should look at the stats for this award in regards to Major. Like I said earlier she was only beaten by the usual contenders (Mario, Yoshi, and 5-time defending champion Luigi) people wanting her out may have a point if she got in last but... yeah
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
let's vote on jr. then, then toad
 <Nyrie> 
toad should definitely be in
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Move Bowser Jr. from Minor to Major? y/n/a
 <Tailmon> 
y
 <Freakworld> 
n
 <Nyrie> 
y
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
a
 <turb> 
a
 <Nabber> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
n
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <SMB> 
A
 <NSY> 
a
 <_2257> 
y
 <Uniju> 
n
 <Toadbert> 
y
 <NSY> 
change to y
 <SonicMario> 
half a(bstain)-press
 <Mariofan169> 
a
 <Stooben> 
a
 <Tailmon> 
7-3-6
 <Freakworld> 
SonicMario is qpu aligned
 <Lakituthequick> 
lol
 <NEXandGBX> 
an abstain press is an abstain press
 <Nyrie> 
this shit really misaligns my qpus
 <NEXandGBX> 
you can't say it's only a half
 <NEXandGBX> 
unless it's me
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
who else needs to vote
 <mcd> 
a
 <Tailmon> 
7-3-7
 <Nyrie> 
boeing 737
 <turb> 
i genuinely dont know what to make of this so idk if i can switch to another position
 <Stooben> 
breaking bad
 <mcd> 
lets solve all this by merging the two awards
 <mcd> 
lets merge every award
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
plz no
 <_2257> 
A1 favorite thing
 <Nyrie> 
merge this with favorite koopaling
 <SMB> 
May I ask real quickly, since we're /just/ focusing on Bowser Jr. at the moment rather than having all of the discussion at once:
 <Freakworld> 
if we add jr lets add diddy kong as well
 <_2257> 
it just includes everything
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Favourite [Favourite Thing] and Favourite [Fail Thing]
 <Lakituthequick> 
that would nullify this entire discussion
 <Mariofan169> 
we should take the minor character award
 <SMB> 
What is the justification for moving Bowser Jr. again?
 <Lakituthequick> 
i could have slept that time
 <Mariofan169> 
and PUSH it somewhere else
 <Nyrie> 
he's in a lot of games, plays a major role in more than one
 <_2257> 
bowser jr is in as many games as rosie, basically
 <Toadbert> 
i feel he's appeared a lot to be a major role
 <mcd> 
should we just demote rosalina
 <Nyrie> 
usually in spinoffs
 <_2257> 
no mcd
 <Stooben> 
this night was bound to have that patrick star reference
 <_2257> 
i know rosalina is your hatewaifu but no
 <mcd> 
ive not really got anything against rosalina tbh
 <Mariofan169> 
my work here is done
 <Toadbert> 
haifu
 <Freakworld> 
hey diddy kong is in most spinoffs too, had a major role or 2, was in smash
 <_2257> 
what
 <Freakworld> 
etc etc
 <Mariofan169> 
also keep rosalina
 <_2257> 
am i confusing you with smasher
 <turb> 
please dont add diddy kong
 <_2257> 
there was someone who really hated her
 <Freakworld> 
by this logic we could aslo add waluigi
 <Nyrie> 
when has diddy kong been in a mario game
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so I think I'm going to call that vote done then, Bowser Jr. is added
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
well, moved
 <mcd> 
no i used to hate rosalina but idk why tbh
 <Freakworld> 
i dont see wheres the difference
 <Nyrie> 
yay
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so now about toad
 <Toadbert> 
well
 <Lakituthequick> 
so jr. gets promoted then
 <Toadbert> 
hes a major dk character but
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
is there any discussion to be made
 <_2257> 
yeah, he was the only character in sticker star
 <Nyrie> 
i dont think so
 <Nyrie> 
i think everyone agrees he should be major
 <Tailmon> 
i dont particularly like rosalina but i don't hate her either
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
good point
 <mcd> 
and paint smash or whatever its called
 <Nyrie> 
i /think/
 <Freakworld> 
toad is a different story hes on a similar tier to yoshi minus the own game thing
 <mcd> 
paint slam
 <NSY> 
i fully support toad moved
 <mcd> 
i vote toad
 <mcd> 
y
 <_2257> 
wario's woods
 <Nyrie> 
toady?
 <SMB> 
I support Toad.
 <Tailmon> 
start a vote pls
 <_2257> 
that is totally toads game
 <SonicMario> 
"toad is a different story hes on a similar tier to yoshi minus the own game thing" Well there is Wario's Woods...
 <_2257> 
also
 <_2257> 
captain toad: treasure tracker
 <Freakworld> 
i still think we should pinpoint where the difference between bj and diddy kong is
 <_2257> 
lol
 <mcd> 
you start a vote
 <Stooben> 
and capt-- yea
 <Nyrie> 
fw
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Captain Toad is an individual character
 <Nyrie> 
diddy kong is a monkey
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
separate
 <Stooben> 
although i thought of wario's woods first too sm lol
 <_2257> 
NO
 <Mariofan169> 
toad's been in literally every main game besides world
 <Nyrie> 
and bj is a koopa
 <_2257> 
not a toad identity debate!
 <Nabber> 
monkeys are people too
 <_2257> 
please
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
YES
 <_2257> 
anything but that
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it's not a debate
 <Mariofan169> 
I'd say put him in
 <_2257> 
anything
 <NSY> 
i would have toam in major and captain in supporting
 <mcd> 
i think
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we decided it last year
 <_2257> 
please
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it's a done deal
 <Freakworld> 
donkey kong is a monkey too
 <mcd> 
since we include 'yoshi'
 <mcd> 
we should also include toad
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Captain Toad is already in A12
 <Nyrie> 
which toad is really "toad"
 <Tailmon> 
i'm toad
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
NO NYRIE
 <mcd> 
which yoshi is really "yoshi"
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
BAD
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
MCD BAD
 <Lakituthequick> 
plz
 <Nyrie> 
:)))
 <mcd> 
its no different
  
Chiaki_Nanami is now known as randomyoshi
 <Lakituthequick> 
ffs
 <Freakworld> 
speculation says captain toad is /the/ toad
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so let's vote then
 <randomyoshi> 
im yoshi
 <mcd> 
either add toad or remove yoshi
 <Tailmon> 
remove mcd
 <mcd> 
remove mario
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Move Toad from Minor to Major? y/n/a
 <Meta_Knight> 
Which one is this
 <mcd> 
what the fuck does he even do
 <Tailmon> 
y
 <mcd> 
y
 <_2257> 
y
 <Nyrie> 
y
 <randomyoshi> 
y
 <SMB> 
Yes
 <Uniju> 
a
 <Stooben> 
y
 <turb> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
a
 <Freakworld> 
y
 <Mariofan169> 
y
 <Toadbert> 
a
 <Nabber> 
y
 <SonicMario> 
y
 <Meta_Knight> 
Y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Meta_Knight: A11 and A12 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1T_H6HQaXTg6GSpWx8OL_vQ06YUkSB3sCB1XEfRH9h8I/edit?pref=2&pli=1
 <DragonFreak> 
y
 <Toadbert> 
his best mcd
 <mcd> 
yes
 <Tailmon> 
15-0-3
 <NSY> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
vote to move toad passes
 <mcd> 
hes a good friendly man
 <Tailmon> 
16-0-3
 <Nyrie> 
a
 <Toadbert> 
family man
 <mcd> 
friends and family man
 <mcd> 
knows the important stuff
 <randomyoshi> 
man and friends family
 <mcd> 
owns a gun
 <randomyoshi> 
meme man
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
is there anything else left to alter about A11 itself, or can we move to A12 itself
 <Nyrie> 
move to a12
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
there's 10 minutes left and I think we can finish A12
 <Freakworld> 
move
 <randomyoshi> 
move
 <Stooben> 
move it on over
 <Tailmon> 
move to a12
 <NSY> 
best thing is that waluigi will walk this now
 <turb> 
move
 <mcd> 
move
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
A12 Favorite Supporting Character (Daisy, Waluigi, Toadsworth, Diddy Kong, E. Gadd, Toadette, Captain Toad)
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
let's add kamek
 <_2257> 
add birdo, kamek, and poochy
 <Nyrie> 
kamek
 <Nyrie> 
and birdo
 <DragonFreak> 
per 22
 <_2257> 
9) Toadsworth - 18
 <_2257> 
O) Birdo - 7
 <_2257> 
O) Kamek - 7
 <Freakworld> 
per 2257 actually
 <_2257> 
O) Poochy - 7
 <mcd> 
yes
 <Mariofan169> 
add pink donkey kong jr
 <Meta_Knight> 
Yeah add kamek
 <Nyrie> 
fair enough
 <Tailmon> 
yeah i'd be fine with adding those three
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
well I mean
 <DragonFreak> 
wow really there was that many write ins
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
22 has a point
 <NSY> 
we have 9 nominees
 <Nyrie> 
add kamek, birdo, and poochy
 <NSY> 
there's plenty for this three
 <Lakituthequick> 
Poochy'll win.
 <Lakituthequick> 
I like this
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I hate to be the devil's advocate though but I'm sure I can guess why Poochy was voted 7 times
 <Meta_Knight> 
Okay if we add one we should add them all
 <Nyrie> 
yeah
 <Freakworld> 
poochy is love
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so I don't think numbers alone mean anything
 <Freakworld> 
poochy is life
 <Nyrie> 
poochy is probably uh
 <_2257> 
god anton why do you want to discount my votes
 <Nyrie> 
not the best decision
 <Nyrie> 
but the thing is
 <Mariofan169> 
also what was the last game toadsworth's been in
 <_2257> 
literally more than half of those votes are mine why do you hate me
 <Nyrie> 
if we keep dkjr math
 <Nyrie> 
why not add poochy
 <Freakworld> 
lets add kamek and birdo at least
 <turb> 
i would just add all 3
 <Tailmon> 
^
 <turb> 
this award isnt crowded
 <Freakworld> 
^
 <SMB> 
I agree with Turb.
 <Nyrie> 
which magikoopa is really "kamek"?
 <randomyoshi> 
BAD NYRIE
 <turb> 
kamek, the one from yi
 <_2257> 
please no
 <turb> 
and yoshi games
 <turb> 
dont do this
 <Freakworld> 
the one from yoshis island
 <SMB> 
And to that extent 22
 <randomyoshi> 
bad meme argument
 <Tailmon> 
youre killing us
 <SMB> 
We should add all three.
 <Nyrie> 
which birdo is the "birdo"
 <NSY> 
peaty got not one write in last year
 <Stooben> 
suggestion: rename a12 to favorite meme
 <Tailmon> 
YOURE KILLING US
 <randomyoshi> 
nyrie fucking please
 <NSY> 
thats intresting
 <Lakituthequick> 
Nyrie plz
 <SMB> 
Even if we know where the Poochy votes came from, we shouldn't exclude the option.
 <Freakworld> 
also the german localisation referring to the species magikoopa as kamek
 <Freakworld> 
always gr8
 <NEXandGBX> 
which nyrie is the "nyrie"
 <Nyrie> 
:(
 
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 <Nyrie> 
hi
 <Nyrie> 
you made it
 <Mariofan169> 
ohi star
 <Freakworld> 
he
 <SMB> 
For all we know, the other characters could have votes for similar reasons.
 <Nyrie> 
less than 10 minutes left
 <Freakworld> 
y
 <Stargazing> 
well my connection took a while
 <mcd> 
which toad is the "captain"
 <_2257> 
yeah freakworld thats because its that way in japanese
 <Nyrie> 
[21:53:52] Freakworld he
 <Nyrie> 
... has
 <Stargazing> 
what's the current question?
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
what would people prefer
 <NSY> 
the kamek votes were all anton's think
 <Meta_Knight> 
All
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
are we voting them all at once or separately
 <Nyrie> 
i'd add kamek and birdo for sure
 <mcd> 
vote kamek and birdo together
 <Nyrie> 
idk about poochy
 <mcd> 
and then poochy separately
 <SMB> 
I'd say all seperately.
 <Nyrie> 
per mcd
 <SMB> 
Give each option a fair, individual chance.
 <Mariofan169> 
make a whole award for best poochy
 <Stargazing> 
i'd prefer them all individually
 <NSY> 
per smb
 <Stargazing> 
as they're seperate characters
 <Freakworld> 
per smb and star
 <Tailmon> 
im voting for them all but i guess we can vote on them individually
 <Mariofan169> 
nay, whole ceremony
 <turb> 
per smb and star
 <mcd> 
yeah lets just do them individually
 <Stooben> 
separate sounds best to me
 <Nyrie> 
which toad is "yellow toad"
  
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 <Mariofan169> 
gdi nyrie
 <Lakituthequick> 
at a4 things were added and removed in bulk
 <_2257> 
i mean
 <Lakituthequick> 
but there it was object instead of characters so
 <_2257> 
the main argument to add them is that they did well as write ins
 <_2257> 
and they all did equally well
 <Lakituthequick> 
which is valid
 <Meta_Knight> 
Y, y, and y
 <_2257> 
so if you add one, you should add all three
 <Nyrie> 
why does baby luigi have more votes than baby mario
 <randomyoshi> 
because
 <randomyoshi> 
blof
 <Stargazing> 
why not?
 <Lakituthequick> 
opinions
 <SMB> 
Well, it should either be a complete package or entirely individual.
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so how we'll do it is
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we'll vote for them all at once
 <SMB> 
Not one for Poochy and one for the other two.
 <Nyrie> 
are the babies a good nominee anyway
 <mcd> 
same reason luigi gets more votes in the major character one
 <mcd> 
people like luigi more
 <mcd> 
they can relate to him
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if there's enough Nos or Abstains, we will defer to individually
 <Mariofan169> 
because baby luigi didn't spend a whole game crying
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so
 <Tailmon> 
that seems fair
 <Nyrie> 
[21:57:14] Mariofan169 because baby luigi didn't spend a whole game crying
 <Nyrie> 
have you played PiT
 <SMB> 
Yeah, that's fine by me.
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Add Birdo, Kamek, and Poochy to A12? y/n/a
 <Tailmon> 
y
 <Freakworld> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <_2257> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
y
 <SMB> 
Yes
 <Meta_Knight> 
Y
 <DragonFreak> 
yes :birdo:
 <Uniju> 
a
 <turb> 
y
 <Stargazing> 
y
 <NSY> 
a
 <mcd> 
y
 <randomyoshi> 
a
 <Toadbert> 
a
 <Nyrie> 
y
 <Nabber> 
y
 <Stooben> 
y
 <NEXandGBX> 
y :birsh:
 <Lakituthequick> 
Problem resolved.
 <Nyrie> 
ayy
 <Lakituthequick> 
yas
 <Mariofan169> 
...n
 <Mariofan169> 
jk y
 <DragonFreak> 
:birdo: for best supporting character please
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
gr8
 <DragonFreak> 
together we can do it
 <Tailmon> 
15.5-0-4
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
all 3 will be added
 <Tailmon> 
we did it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
are there any other considerations
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
outside of the write-ins
 <randomyoshi> 
which one is the real 'which one'
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
removals, too
 
randomyoshi dies
 <Tailmon> 
i think we're good
 <NSY> 
King Boo and Peaty?
 <Freakworld> 
i want the diddy kong vs bowser jr thing to be addressed again at some point
 <NSY> 
but not really enough
 <Freakworld> 
i really didnt understand this yet
 <randomyoshi> 
we've got 1 minute left
 <Tailmon> 
we had petey before
 <Tailmon> 
i think
 <Tailmon> 
and then removed him for not doing shit
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
petey was removed last year, yes
 
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 <Mariofan169> 
which boo is the "king"
 <Tailmon> 
or am i thinking of something else
 <Stargazing> 
nothing on my end to be added/removed
 <Lakituthequick> 
plz
 <Freakworld> 
7kick Mariofan169
 <Lakituthequick> 
7?
 <NEXandGBX> 
an excellent meeting
 <Tailmon> 
kick him 7 times
 <Freakworld> 
the button / is on on my keyboard
 <Stargazing> 
7 is the & buttom
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so what I'm gathering is that these 3 additions are ok and that's it?
 
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 <Stargazing> 
oh
 <Nyrie> 
ye
 <Tailmon> 
yeah
 <Uniju> 
sounds good
 <Stargazing> 
yeah they're fine
 <NSY> 
yes
 <Lakituthequick> 
yup
 <Meta_Knight> 
What was it
 <_2257> 
yes
 <Gamefreak75> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
gr8
 <Stooben> 
shore
 <Freakworld> 
yes
 <Toadbert> 
ye
 <Mariofan169> 
that's it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
perfectly timed too
 <randomyoshi> 
we did it
 <Lakituthequick> 
fantastic
 <Stargazing> 
alright is that it
 <Lakituthequick> 
:clap:
 <Stargazing> 
ayy
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we got through major topic introductions and 12 awards
 <Uniju> 
gg
 <Freakworld> 
its 4 am why am i awake
 <_2257> 
great
 <randomyoshi> 
we did a meeting and we didn't die
 <DragonFreak> 
hooray
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
that's excellent
 <Stargazing> 
i'm gonna go tier for rin now
 <Tailmon> 
we all lived through the first meeting
 <NEXandGBX> 
:clap:
 <Stooben> 
nobody died, cool
 <Tailmon> 
it's a miracle
 <mcd> 
congrats guys
 <Meta_Knight> 
My phone didn't die
  
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 <Meta_Knight> 
Hooray
 <Freakworld> 
i am dead inside
 <SMB> 
When is the next one?
 <Nyrie> 
but what's the difference between a "major" topic introduction and a "minor" topic introduction
 
DragonFreak air hugs 22 from 500 miles away
 <turb> 
gg
 
Tailmon is suddenly crushed by an airplane
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'll create a topic for the Internal Development Team discussion in a bit
 <Gamefreak75> 
was this meeting a real meeting though
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
who has full logs
 <Stargazing> 
i don't know i was here for 7 minutes
 <Lakituthequick> 
i have logs
 <Nyrie> 
i do
 <Mariofan169> 
I spent 10 minutes in an argument about the legibility of a mario character
 <Nyrie> 
but
 <NEXandGBX> 
i've got the logs
 <Tailmon> 
oh shit i forgot to turn on logs
 <SMB> 
Okay, it's on Saturday
 <randomyoshi> 
I have logs
 <Meta_Knight> 
I don't
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
gr8 someone shit them at me and I'll post them up soon too
 <randomyoshi> 
I can post them
 <Mariofan169> 
goddamn I need to rethink my priorities
 <NEXandGBX> 
as well as pre-meeting logs
 <Stargazing> 
put up a pastebin
 <SMB> 
The meetings are always from 8 - 10pm Eastern, right?
 <Tailmon> 
someone put them in a pastebin for anyton
 <Tailmon> 
anton
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
SMB: yes
 <Stargazing> 
and anton can see which pastebin is the best pastebin
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
although one final thing
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
not this week or next week, but after
  
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 <randomyoshi> 
anton
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm gonna sift for ideas on changing meeting times to be earlier
 <Tailmon> 
what would be the criteria they would be judged on
 <randomyoshi> 
you're getting the logs in 15 seconds
 <Freakworld> 
i moved my thing to general discussion
 <Freakworld> 
good night
 <Stargazing> 
don't do it at like 11am est
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'll talk about it later, but in the past it hasn't really held up because it's never early enough
 <SMB> 
How much earlier are you thinking?
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
an hour or two
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but these next couple weeks daylight savings is going to fuck everything up
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so
 <Tailmon> 
moving them to be earlier by even an hour would be extremely inconvenient for me
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it's useless to discuss it now
 
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 <SMB> 
True, lel.
 <Nyrie> 
favourite paper mario game
 <NSY> 
make a thread
 <SonicMario> 
I likely won't be able to make the meeting next week though. But if I have anything to say about awards up to A20 at least (I doubt the next meeting gets that far. But just in case there's alot of skips next time) I'll post something in the Awards Committee board
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so yeah, that's it for the meeting!