mwikiawards.2016-03-27

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Topic for #mwikiawards is ``"An Excellent Meeting" - Chef Excellence, 2015 || Awards are canceled, I have a hair appointment the day of the ceremony and I can't miss it, soz || 4th meeting hype || http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=36197.0 Links || Number of meetings survived: 3''
  
Topic for #mwikiawards was set by Chiaki_Nanami!Pi@59-995-323-88-lr28.tbcn.telia.com on zaterdag 19 maart 2016 3:07:23
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
welcome home
 <shoutmon> 
good news
 <shoutmon> 
the tie for 15th place is now a tie for 17th place
 <shoutmon> 
bad news
 <shoutmon> 
hotel horror is in 17th place
 <shoutmon> 
rip
 <turb> 
as usual, smasher fucks everything up
 <Lakituthequick> 
g'night
 <Tailmon> 
i still didnt vote
 
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 <shoutmon> 
you can do it smasher
 <shoutmon> 
you can save the award
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if it gets that fucked up I guess we cna just do what 22 said
 <Tailmon> 
i'm not voting for hotel horror
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so we don't spend 800000 hours on it
 <shoutmon> 
rip
 <Tailmon> 
i don't know what it is, soz
 <turb> 
a good level
 <shoutmon> 
play wario land 4
 <Tailmon> 
i have
 <Tailmon> 
i've played through all but three levels
 <Tailmon> 
that's one of the three
 <nico> 
10 min hype
 <Tailmon> 
i'm sorry
 <shoutmon> 
what ar the other two
 <Tailmon> 
i don't know
 <shoutmon> 
they better not be fiery cavern and arabian nights
 <shoutmon> 
that would mean you basically skipped the best passage
 <turb> 
never play through pinball zone
 <turb> 
also yeah arabian nights is literally the best level
 <Toadbert> 
never go full pinball
 <Tailmon> 
are those from sapphire passage
 <turb> 
fiery cavern and arabian nights are
 <turb> 
pinball zone is from ruby
 <Tailmon> 
because i never even finished the first level there apparently
 <Tailmon> 
i did pinball zone
 <Tailmon> 
i remember hating it i think
 <Gamefreak75> 
vote for donkey kong levels
 <Gamefreak75> 
do it smasher
 
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 <shoutmon> 
no donkey kong levels are available gf
 <shoutmon> 
oil drum alley and bramble scramble already won
 <shoutmon> 
and the others cant win
 <Gamefreak75> 
why does marioboards have such shit taste
 <shoutmon> 
unless there's someone else who hasnt voted on 2d level yet
 <shoutmon> 
have any of you not voted on 2d level yet
 <shoutmon> 
http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=36459.0 do it
 <turb> 
i havent
 <turb> 
or i have
 <Toadbert> 
because theyre a bunch of mario fans LO
 <turb> 
i havent voted on most dk levels i mean
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
22 how long does it take to get the top 15-18 list
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
just like a minute?
 <turb> 
well, i guess i voted for oil drum alley and bramble scramble
 <shoutmon> 
0 seconds
 <turb> 
and krack shot kroc
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
gr8
 <shoutmon> 
i wrote a script to do it automatically
 <turb> 
none of the dkcr/dkctf ones though
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so I'll lock it right when we start the topic
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
rather than a little early
 <shoutmon> 
ok
 <Gamefreak75> 
more people need to play dkctf
 <Gamefreak75> 
great game
 <Gamefreak75> 
great levels
 <Gamefreak75> 
great music
 
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 <Gamefreak75> 
its like $20 now too
 <SonicMario> 
Hello
 <turb> 
i got it for free but i still havent played it
 <Gamefreak75> 
hi
 <Freakworld> 
okay so
 <Gamefreak75> 
terrible
 <shoutmon> 
a wii u is not like $20 though
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
SonicMario: did you vote for 2d level
 <shoutmon> 
hi, have you voted on favorite 2d level
 <Gamefreak75> 
you can buy the disc and pretend you plkayed it
 <shoutmon> 
if not, do it
 <Freakworld> 
todays meeting is effectively 3 hours long
 <Freakworld> 
hype
 <shoutmon> 
http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=36459.0
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
why's that
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
daylight cockfuckery?
 <Freakworld> 
yep
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
horrifying
 <Freakworld> 
2am doesnt exist
 <SonicMario> 
I have yes
 <Freakworld> 
we go straight to 3am
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we go gay to 3am
 <Toadbert> 
gay dick sex
 <Tailmon> 
im going to vote
 <Freakworld> 
if you prefer
 <Toadbert> 
-mason
 <shoutmon> 
idk how to do things straight
 <Tailmon> 
i think everything i want to vote for already won though, lol
 <Tailmon> 
except krack shot kroc
 <Freakworld> 
idk how to do things gay
 <shoutmon> 
ill teach you
 <Freakworld> 
ill pass
 <shoutmon> 
wow rude
 <shoutmon> 
youre off the committee
 <Freakworld> 
:)
 <shoutmon> 
and banned from minecraft
 <Freakworld> 
uh
 <Freakworld> 
no
 <Freakworld> 
plz
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Freakworld: "since this probably starts next week or so i have to drop out. sorry."
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
what would be the condition for you to stay in
 <Freakworld> 
idk i wont be here for most of next week
 <Freakworld> 
so
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
until which date
 <Freakworld> 
i would miss several phases
 
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 <Freakworld> 
like
 <Freakworld> 
8th april
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if I have to postpone it like 3 days then lol
 <Mariofan169> 
hi
 <Toadbert> 
oh is that mafia actually starting soon
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'd rather do that than lose someone
 <Gamefreak75> 
make it shroom mafia length phases
  
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 <Gamefreak75> 
:^)
 <shoutmon> 
bsg mafia until the middle of next year
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
April 8th I'm content with
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
you're chained to the game, fw
 <Tailmon> 
well i voted for like the seven things i recognized
 <shoutmon> 
you did it!
 <Freakworld> 
i guess i have to drop out of nyries mafia as well but ill only do that when it comes to that point
 <mcd> 
inb4 there are now 9 games tied for 15th place
 <Freakworld> 
okay anton
 <shoutmon> 
25 voters
 <Freakworld> 
thanks i guess
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I need to drum up everyone to be active first anyways
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
that may take a few days
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
then
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I still gotta assign roles
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
tweak things
 <Gamefreak75> 
smasher i must know what you voted for so i can judge accordingly
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
write some flavor shit
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
there's time
 
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
MEETING TIME
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
WE DID IT
 <Tailmon> 
no
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
did everyone vote
 <Freakworld> 
also i wont be here for the next meeting obviously
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
stoob good timing
 <shoutmon> 
she voted for not hotel horror
 <Stooben> 
hi mom
 <shoutmon> 
tragic
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok fw I just marked you off for that
 <Freakworld> 
thx
 <Tailmon> 
i'm sorry for disappointing you
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
here we are at whatever number meeting this is
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and our schedule for this lovely evening is:
 <Freakworld> 
4 i think
 <Gabumon> 
1
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*greeting
 <mcd> 
0
 <Freakworld> 
oh right
 <Gamefreak75> 
1st meeting hype
 <Freakworld> 
1
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*A8 restructuring
 <Freakworld> 
i forgot
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
anton change of plans
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Complete 2d Level
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
I can attend this
 <mcd> 
no meeting hype
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
u did it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Decide what to do with new Mario award ideas; preference order
 <Freakworld> 
what is Chiaki_Nanami
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Finalize each award idea
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Begin Fail Awards
 <Gamefreak75> 
an anime character
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Note on User/Shroom Awards, background work begins on those
 <Freakworld> 
>anime
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Afterparty
 <Gabumon> 
right, lets begin failing
 <Toadbert> 
turb
 <Toadbert> 
please lead the failure
 <Freakworld> 
it will be like 4 am at the afterparty do we have to attend that
 <turb> 
o
 <turb> 
i forgot how to lead meetings honestly
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so the first thing up is Edo's complete restructuring of A8 which seems to be nearly unanimously approved of
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=36476.msg1824737#msg1824737
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
located here
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
the proposal would include taking on that idea in whole, switching out every nominee with those
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if you haven't checked it out yet I'll give you a couple minutes
 <Freakworld> 
oh yeah that
 <Freakworld> 
that solves about every problem i had with that award when we talked about it earlier
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
edo would the nominees be titled with the things you put in bold
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
or something else
 <Toadbert> 
looks pretty good to me really
 <Gabumon> 
well, if someone has better names, I wouldnt mind exchanging them
  
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok
 <Gabumon> 
if not, then not
 <Nabber> 
brb for five minutes
 <turb> 
i like the restructuring
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
good luck
  
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 <turb> 
and also im fine with having both super mario rpg/strikers on the nominee list
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
i'm down with the new A8
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
I've already expressed my approval and I'll do it again: this is good
 <turb> 
i think theyre unique enough to be on there
 <ChanServ> 
shoutmon (_2257) set flags +Aiortv on SMB.
  
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 <turb> 
and also it's not like we'd be going overboard with the nominee amount
 <Gabumon> 
oh, right, the strikers thing
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
oh yeah the unsures, I guess we'll make those two separate decisions
  
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 <shoutmon> 
god chanserv fuck off
 <Freakworld> 
i mean the person who said strikers is only the artwork
 <Toadbert> 
strikers promotional artwork
 <ChanServ> 
shoutmon (_2257) set flags +O on SMB.
  
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 <Nyrie> 
i'm here
 <Lakituthequick> 
strikers is distinct in it's own way so
 <Gabumon> 
if the restructuring is approved, id like to have a vote on whether to include strikers or not
 <Freakworld> 
tbh thats kinda true
 <Tailmon> 
im neutral to strikers but im in favor of smrpg
 <Freakworld> 
per edo
 <Freakworld> 
yeah smrpg is very distinct
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
has everyone had ample time to look at the suggestion?
 <Gabumon> 
since the artwork is very unique, but the actual game visuals arent really that different
 <Lakituthequick> 
yes
 <Lakituthequick> 
yeah
 <mcd> 
so i assume all paper mario games are being included under just 'paper mario'
 <Gabumon> 
paper mario style
 <Toadbert> 
if i had to put smrpg somewhere
 <mcd> 
yeah
 <Toadbert> 
i think itd lump it in with the dkc's
  
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 <Freakworld> 
no
 <Toadbert> 
theyve got that really dark, realism attempt there
 <mcd> 
that's good
 <Freakworld> 
dkc still looks different from dkc
 <Freakworld> 
wait
 <Freakworld> 
fuck
 <Freakworld> 
smrpg**
 <Toadbert> 
it does but
 <Toadbert> 
its the style right
 <shoutmon> 
i dont think so
 <shoutmon> 
rpg is like
 <mcd> 
2.5d
 <shoutmon> 
clay models
 <mcd> 
isn't that what it's called
 <shoutmon> 
dkc is prerendered cgi
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
smrpg ≠ dkc
 <Freakworld> 
i guess its the same pre-rendered shit but
 <Freakworld> 
like
 <Freakworld> 
theres visible differences
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
in the meantime let's get this vote on
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Accept the new A8 idea in whole (barring the Unsures) and swap out the nominees? (y/n/a)
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
y
 <Freakworld> 
y
 <Toadbert> 
y
 <Gamefreak75> 
y
 <Gabumon> 
n
 <mcd> 
y
 <Tailmon> 
y
 <Gabumon> 
just kidding y
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Mariofan169> 
y
 <SonicMario> 
y
 <shoutmon> 
y
 <Nyrie> 
y
 <Nabber> 
y
 <Tailmon> 
13-0-0
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
y
 <turb> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
proposal passes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
gr8
 <Tailmon> 
15-0-0
 <SMB> 
Yes
 <SMB> 
count my vote please ;~;
 <Gamefreak75> 
theres 20 committee members here if i didnt miscount
 <Stooben> 
i like it, y
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
17-0-0
 <Tailmon> 
16-0-0
 <Freakworld> 
either 19 or 20 are here
 <nico> 
sure
 <Tailmon> 
counting stooben's vote
 <Freakworld> 
im too tired to count
 <Gamefreak75> 
oh yeah uniju is afk
 <Tailmon> 
who is smb
 <Gamefreak75> 
so 19
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
onto the next decision then, discussion can take place during it if necessary
 <Gabumon> 
the strikers thing
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add Super Mario Strikers to the new A8? (y/n/a)
 <Gabumon> 
pls
 <SMB> 
:(
 <Nabber> 
y
 <Toadbert> 
y
 <mcd> 
y
 <Freakworld> 
a
 <nico> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
a
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
y
 <shoutmon> 
y
 <Nyrie> 
y
 <Stooben> 
y
 <Tailmon> 
a
 <SonicMario> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
y
 <Gabumon> 
ok I guess y
 <SMB> 
Abstain
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
a
 <Freakworld> 
im not sure tbh but im not really against it because everyone knows whats referred to
 <Tailmon> 
11-0-5
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
should it be called "Super Mario Strikers promo art"
 <nico> 
futbawl
 <Freakworld> 
actually switch to y
 <Toadbert> 
probably
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
that clarifies it to what everyone is thinking of
 <Nabber> 
actually that brings up an idea
 <Nabber> 
we could have best concept/promo art?
 <turb> 
eh
 <turb> 
i dunno
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
maybe next year
 <Toadbert> 
eh
 <Freakworld> 
id rather leave it at sm strikers
 <turb> 
i guess ill go with y
 <shoutmon> 
seems pretty specific
 <Tailmon> 
12-0-4
 <Toadbert> 
best indian playing cab driver in a commercial for a game
 <turb> 
its kind of specific but
 <Gabumon> 
i concur with fw
 <shoutmon> 
also concept and promo art are really pretty different things
 <turb> 
most people are probably going to understand we're talking about the artwork
 <turb> 
not the game models
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
makes sense
 <turb> 
so yeah just go with sm strikers
 <shoutmon> 
concept art is like, stuff used internally to brainstorm
 <shoutmon> 
promo art is for publication
 <Nabber> 
i know 22
 <Nabber> 
i was suggesting ideas
 <Freakworld> 
concept art is what the entirety of some games looks like
 <Nabber> 
not like, for the same award
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
now im thinking about s2e2 of atla
 <SonicMario> 
Plus if nothing else there's the cool looking Mega Strikes that has like vine whip walluigi, demi-goddess peach, etc.
 <Freakworld> 
that was
 <Freakworld> 
the tunnelß
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
onto the next one, and again discussion can take place to sway votes
 <Freakworld> 
ß
 <Freakworld> 
?
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add Super Mario RPG to the new A8? (y/n/a)
 <Freakworld> 
y
 <turb> 
y
 <shoutmon> 
y
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
yes fw
 <Lakituthequick> 
a
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
and yes
 <Nabber> 
a
 <nico> 
a
 <Tailmon> 
y
 <Toadbert> 
y
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
y
 <SonicMario> 
y
 <Gabumon> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
y, i'm a follower
 <Tailmon> 
9-0-3
 <Freakworld> 
anton is mason confirmed
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'll edit the Full List to reflect this later
 
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 <Freakworld> 
or cultist
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I can't claim, fw, stoob just said not to
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
god
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
:metal:
 <Freakworld> 
aw
 
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
that being said, A8 topic is over, meaning 2d level is next
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if you haven't voted you have like 8 seconds to do it
 <Freakworld> 
oh roy
 <Lakituthequick> 
also coined was renaming A8 to Favorite Art Style right
  
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 <Freakworld> 
yeah
 <nico> 
wow 22
 <nico> 
when did u uncapitilize the s
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
oh yeah I should've clarified that
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
soz
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ltq is correct
 <shoutmon> 
uhhhhhh i dunno, a few days ago
 <nico> 
wew
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
voting is locked
 <SMB> 
I vote yes on SMRPG
 <SMB> 
oh
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
22 what's the verdict
 <Freakworld> 
ok
 <shoutmon> 
good news
 <shoutmon> 
no tie for 15th
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we're on 2d Level now btw
 <shoutmon> 
7 way tie for 17th
 <Nyrie> 
ok
 <shoutmon> 
which is also a tie for 18th obviously but i guess that doesn't matter
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
so the list
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
what is the list
 <Freakworld> 
only 2 people voted for 8-6 nsmb
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
giv list
 <Freakworld> 
boo
 <shoutmon> 
1. Touch Fuzzy, Get Dizzy (YI)
 <shoutmon> 
15 (5.1%)
 <Freakworld> 
*3
 <shoutmon> 
2. World 1-1 (SMB)
 <shoutmon> 
13 (4.4%)
 <shoutmon> 
2. Poochy Ain't Stupid (YI)
 <nico> 
was that the one with volcano bits falling
 <shoutmon> 
13 (4.4%)
 <shoutmon> 
4. Donut Plains 1 (SMW)
 <shoutmon> 
9 (3.1%)
 <shoutmon> 
4. Forest of Illusion 3 (SMW)
 <Nabber> 
is TF,GD really that great of a level
 <shoutmon> 
9 (3.1%)
 <Freakworld> 
that was the lava one scrolling up
 <shoutmon> 
4. Oil Drum Alley (DKC)
 <nico> 
yea
 <Nabber> 
haven't played it myself
 <shoutmon> 
9 (3.1%)
 <nico> 
oh ok
 <shoutmon> 
4. Crescent Moon Village (WL4)
 <shoutmon> 
9 (3.1%)
 <shoutmon> 
8. World 1-2 (SMB)
 <shoutmon> 
8 (2.7%)
 <shoutmon> 
8. World 2-Pyramid (SMB3)
 <shoutmon> 
8 (2.7%)
 <shoutmon> 
8. Donut Secret House (SMW)
 <Freakworld> 
its the ost memorble level in any nsmb game imo
 <shoutmon> 
8 (2.7%)
 <nico> 
i also liked those rolling ball things
 <shoutmon> 
8. Painted Swampland (NSMBU)
 <shoutmon> 
8 (2.7%)
 <shoutmon> 
8. Arabian Nights (WL4)
 <shoutmon> 
8 (2.7%)
 <nico> 
in tfgd
 <shoutmon> 
13. Bramble Scramble (DKC2)
 <shoutmon> 
7 (2.4%)
 <shoutmon> 
14. Front Door (SMW)
 <shoutmon> 
6 (2%)
 <shoutmon> 
14. Go! Go! Morphing! (YI)
 <shoutmon> 
6 (2%)
 <shoutmon> 
14. World 8-7 (NSMBW)
 <shoutmon> 
6 (2%)
 <shoutmon> 
those are the winners
 <shoutmon> 
definitely better than w1-1
 <shoutmon> 
then again, so is everything on the list
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
this list is all automatically accepted into the award
 <Freakworld> 
also i thought about nominating wl3 levels but
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
16 levels
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
hold on while I copy that list
 <Freakworld> 
tbh those arent memorable enough in themselves
 <Nabber> 
w1-1 is a classic tho
 <shoutmon> 
a classic in snoring
 <Freakworld> 
w1-1 has to be on the list
 <Gamefreak75> 
no dkctf or dkcr or kirby levels
 <shoutmon> 
is that honestly anybody's favorite level
 <Tailmon> 
i voted for w1-1
 <Gamefreak75> 
good night sweet prince
 <Freakworld> 
no way around it
 <shoutmon> 
would nayone vote for it
 <turb> 
where are the pikmin 3 levels
 <turb> 
i wouldnt vote for it
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
i probably won't
 <Toadbert> 
w1-1 is memorable sure
 <Tailmon> 
it'll probably be in the top five at the very worst
 <Toadbert> 
but is it really good enough
 <nico> 
i cant think of a favourite level from smb
 <Gamefreak75> 
i voted 1-1 just because i know people will vote for it anywyas
 <Freakworld> 
i voted for 8-4 from smb 1 because thats honestly a good level
 <nico> 
but i guess id pick 1-1
 
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 <Toadbert> 
8-4 is a real bastard if you dont know the pipes man
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so there's 7 in a tie for the last 2 slots
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
i like 5-4
 <Gamefreak75> 
i personally wouldnt vote for it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
what do you guys want to do
 <shoutmon> 
i readlly don't see why anyone would vote for 1-1 over all the ggood things on the list
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
figure it out literally RIGHT NOW
 <Gamefreak75> 
forum topic
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
or
 <Gamefreak75> 
its easier
 
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 <shoutmon> 
tbh 16 nominees is enough
 <Gamefreak75> 
set it two votes
 <shoutmon> 
we dont HAVE to go to 18
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah that, 16
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
or
 <turb> 
yeah im fine with 16 tbh
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
another forum vote
 <Gamefreak75> 
depends on the levels
 <SonicMario> 
If it doesn't do well we can take it off next year. But otherwise it's kinda obligatory to at least weigh it's popularity given it is the first level
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
what are the 7
 <Freakworld> 
.
 <shoutmon> 
17. World 4-3 (SMB2)
 <turb> 
im not going to kill everyone in an attempt to get krack shot kroc and hotel horror in the last two slots
 <shoutmon> 
5 (1.7%)
 <shoutmon> 
17. World 5-3 (SMB3)
 <turb> 
that would be ludicrous
 <Freakworld> 
ded?
 <shoutmon> 
5 (1.7%)
 <Toadbert> 
i am turb
 <shoutmon> 
17. Hop! Hop! Donut Lifts (YI)
 <shoutmon> 
5 (1.7%)
 <shoutmon> 
17. Kamek's Revenge (YI)
 <shoutmon> 
5 (1.7%)
 <shoutmon> 
17. Krack Shot Kroc (DKC3)
 <shoutmon> 
5 (1.7%)
 <shoutmon> 
17. Hotel Horror (WL4)
 <Toadbert> 
fuc
 <shoutmon> 
5 (1.7%)
 <Tailmon> 
i'm the reason why krack shot kroc is in there
 <turb> 
fuc
 <shoutmon> 
17. World 7-Fortress (SMB3)
 <shoutmon> 
5 (1.7%)
 <Tailmon> 
you're all welcome
 <Gamefreak75> 
dont care about any of those except hotel horror
 <Toadbert> 
7-fortress was a fantastic level
 <nico> 
krack shot kroc was a good one
 <Toadbert> 
you guys are nuts
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we literally don't need to bother adding more, but if some people are passionate about having any of those options we can go through with it
 
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 <shoutmon> 
i nominated 7-fortreess
 
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 <nico> 
i dont remember 7-fort
 <shoutmon> 
can i be exempt from being nuts
 <turb> 
"i dont care about krack shot kroc" - real human being who played dkc3
 <Toadbert> 
it was the one made of brick blocks
 <nico> 
i just remember those god damn muncher levels
  
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 <nico> 
oh
 <Toadbert> 
then you hit the p switch and it was a huge mass of coins
 <nico> 
shit
 <nico> 
that was a good one
 <nico> 
you gotta fly to the pipe
 <nico> 
yea
 <Toadbert> 
yeah
 <Freakworld> 
i was somehow disconnected
 <nico> 
that was a good one
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
should we have a vote on keep 16 or vote more
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
I say keep 16
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
let's do that, let me make it official hold on
 <Tailmon> 
id like krack shot kroc on there but i can live with it just being 16
 <Freakworld> 
i say keep this list probably idk
 <Toadbert> 
ditto
 <Toadbert> 
@smasher
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Keep these 16 nominees as is, or create another forum vote to pick 2 of the last 7? (Keep 16 / Vote)
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
y
 <nico> 
keep 16
 <shoutmon> 
k
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
oh
 <Freakworld> 
y
 <Gabumon> 
a
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
keep
 <SMB> 
Keep
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
k
 <Toadbert> 
votte
 <turb> 
keep
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I guess a too
 <Tailmon> 
a
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
(keep/vote/a)
 <Lakituthequick> 
k
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
keep 16
 <Nyrie> 
keep
 <SMB> 
Actually, switch to Abstain
 <Nabber> 
a
 <Freakworld> 
i dont really care for the specifics of the lesser voted levels so it can stay at this imo
 <SonicMario> 
k
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I want kamek in there because he's cute, and donut lifts has the best theme
 <Tailmon> 
9-1-5
 <Tailmon> 
rip tb
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but my preference is having this award done now
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
keep
 <Toadbert> 
this is it im really dead
 <Tailmon> 
10-1-4
 <nico> 
finally
 <Freakworld> 
kameks revenge didnt get in?
 <Freakworld> 
wow rip
 <shoutmon> 
just vote for 7-fortress every time when the awards are open
 <Stooben> 
keep
 <shoutmon> 
maybe itll get in next year
 <Tailmon> 
11-1-4
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
16 nominees will be kept
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we did it
 <Toadbert> 
i didnt
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'll update the Full List later
 <Freakworld> 
we should make a poll just for tb
 <Freakworld> 
and the winner goes into a fail award
 <Lakituthequick> 
Touch Fuzzy, Get Dizzy (YI), World 1-1 (SMB), Poochy Ain't Stupid (YI), Donut Plains 1 (SMW), Forest of Illusion 3 (SMW), Crescent Moon Village (WL4), World 1-2 (SMB), World 2-Pyramid (SMB3), Donut Secret House (SMW), Painted Swampland (NSMBU), Arabian Nights (WL4), Bramble Scramble (DKC2), Front Door (SMW), Go! Go! Morphing! (YI), World 8-7 (NSMBW)
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: tb? (tb/no tb)
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
tb
 <Lakituthequick> 
for copy paste
 <Gamefreak75> 
tb
 <Freakworld> 
no tb
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
thx
 <Tailmon> 
tb
 <shoutmon> 
t
 <Toadbert> 
tb
 <Lakituthequick> 
a
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
tb
 <Tailmon> 
6-1-1
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
no tb
 <Tailmon> 
6-2-1
 <turb> 
tb
 <mcd> 
tb
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
more like
 <Tailmon> 
i don't know what we're doing
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
62-1
 <Stooben> 
does a stand for aflac in this poll
 <Tailmon> 
yes
 <mcd> 
i hope we're pinging tb
 <Toadbert> 
yes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so onto the next topic
 <Stooben> 
then a
 <Toadbert> 
not anymore mcd ho ho HA
 <Toadbert> 
i got a new client
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
filling in the remaining empty award positions with new ideas we've voted on
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=36527.0
 <Tailmon> 
toadbert
 <mcd> 
damn and blast
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if you haven't voted yet you have like 10 seconds before I lock it
 <Tailmon> 
i voted
 <mcd> 
favourite toadbert plays oregon trail character
 <Toadbert> 
yes pls
 <nico> 
i vote me
 <turb> 
i voted
 <Freakworld> 
favorite bad forum meme (freakworld/pi)
 <Lakituthequick> 
all options have neat unequal votes so
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
i vote chiaki
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
pi
 <Gamefreak75> 
i voted
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
also i'm a good forum meme
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok i'm locking it which is going to force us into a decision
 <Freakworld> 
idk
 <Gabumon> 
im in favor of booting SSB stage
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
same
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Favorite Level Theme and Favorite DLC have the top 2 votes, and are automatically accepted as new awards we have to work out in full tonight
 <nico> 
it seems off
 <Freakworld> 
okay
 <nico> 
and smm element
 <Tailmon> 
i'd prefer booting mario maker
 <Toadbert> 
what is level theme going to entail
 <Freakworld> 
ssb goes into the fail
 <Toadbert> 
just smb, smb3, smw, nsmb?
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
the other two will have to face off in mortal kombat
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
mortal bobkat
 <nico> 
i think more like desert/water/grass/etc
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
this 3rd award might not even make it
 <Gabumon> 
isnt mario maker very popular
 <shoutmon> 
i thought we were moving ssb into fail or something
 <nico> 
thats what i thought
 <Toadbert> 
i thoguth it was mario maker themes
 <Freakworld> 
per 2257
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
as it will be the replacement for Upcoming Games if we don't have enough for it
 <nico> 
oh
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if E3 gives us enough games, Upcoming award stays
 <Mariofan169> 
gtg
 
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 <Gamefreak75> 
ugh did favorite dlc really win?
 <mcd> 
unless they reveal like five mario games at e3 we probably wont have enough though
 <Gabumon> 
I think we should go with the popular mario game, instead of the popular not mario game
 <Freakworld> 
have upcoming games be a north korean election with color splash as the only option
 <Tailmon> 
ugh did favorite levle them really win?
 <mcd> 
levle them
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
((we'll give discussion between these two a few minutes before having a vote))
 <Freakworld> 
yeah its the most relevant out of the given choices imo
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
SSB Stage vs. Mario Maker Elements
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
fight
 <shoutmon> 
wait is this a vote
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
i was the one to suggest mario maker
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it's not a vote yet
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
mario maker is mario
 <shoutmon> 
i vote for mario maker if so
 <nico> 
does ssb only entail to ssb64
 <Freakworld> 
i thought we were pretty set on booting ssb into fail and removing final smash
 <shoutmon> 
oh
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
ssb is smash
 <shoutmon> 
ok
 <nico> 
or all of them
 <mcd> 
i have an idea for a fail award
 <Gamefreak75> 
id personally prefer ssb stage
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
i think mario maker is best
 <mcd> 
most disappointing game
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
because it's a popular mario game
 <mcd> 
using nominees from last year's upcoming game
 <shoutmon> 
mario maker is better because its mario and this is the mario awards
 <Freakworld> 
oh
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
and the award feelsl ike it has a lot of potential
 <shoutmon> 
having any smash bros awards at all is dumb tbh
 <Freakworld> 
thats interesting
 <Freakworld> 
if anything have worst ssb stage
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
good idea mcd
 <turb> 
i prefer keeping mario maker
 <Tailmon> 
i prefer ssb because it's less likely to lose relevancy to the next hot title in a couple of years
 <Tailmon> 
but that's just me
 <shoutmon> 
losing relevancy is not a bad thing
 <turb> 
ssb stage just feels off though
 <turb> 
even without the mario awards thing in mind
 <shoutmon> 
why not focus on games that are popular this year
 <turb> 
also yeah
 <Tailmon> 
i guess mario maker would work for a couple of years though yeah
 <nico> 
ye i agree with tub
 <turb> 
there's awards that have lost relevancy before
 <shoutmon> 
we're not making the set of awards we need to keep for eternity
 <turb> 
we've replaced/merged them
 <turb> 
it's not a bad thing
 <Tailmon> 
i still like ssb better but im horribly biased so ¯_( ツ)_/¯
 <Gabumon> 
[01:33] Tailmon i prefer ssb because it's less likely to lose relevancy to the next hot title in a couple of years
 <Gabumon> 
mario maker is fairly unique
 <Gabumon> 
the next hot title might not even replace it
 <Freakworld> 
more importantly
 <Tailmon> 
maybe it's just because i haven't played the game
 <Gabumon> 
unless the next title is gonna be mario maker 2
 <Freakworld> 
the inevitable fight of ssb vs. mk8 in favorite dlc
 <Freakworld> 
is gonna be gr8
 <shoutmon> 
if mario maker getting replaced by mario maker 2 is a bad thing
 <shoutmon> 
surely smash is no more viable anyway
 <shoutmon> 
smash 5 is bound to happen
 <shoutmon> 
or would that be smash 6
 <Freakworld> 
5
 <Tailmon> 
7
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
NUMBER
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
S
 <Gabumon> 
the point im making is that mario maker fills a niche that might have a chance of staying relevant despite whatever the next mario game is gonna be
 <Freakworld> 
else we would be at pokemon #5453424 now
 <SonicMario> 
Smasher's apparnetly counting Project M :V
 <SonicMario> 
lol
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I think it's time to vote
 <Tailmon> 
that's a good point i'll admit
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Which award should be the 3rd one? (SSB / MM / a)
 <Gabumon> 
MM
 <SMB> 
MM
 <Freakworld> 
mm
 <Lakituthequick> 
mm
 <shoutmon> 
m
 <Nyrie> 
MM
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
mm
 <Nyrie> 
majora's mask
 <Toadbert> 
a
 <Gabumon> 
Majoras Mask for mario awards
 <Tailmon> 
majora's mask
 <Freakworld> 
majoras mask for favorite gae
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
there's a Mario Mask
 <turb> 
mm
 <Freakworld> 
*gay
 <turb> 
also brbr
 <SonicMario> 
Mario Maker
 <Nabber> 
tobawani for mario awards
 <Nabber> 
best tobawani gif
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
mm
 <Nabber> 
anyway
 <Nabber> 
mm
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
happy, scared, jumping, swimming
 <shoutmon> 
tobawani should be added to favorite species
 <SonicMario> 
I'm surprised Pi hasn't tried to push Scuttlebug for Favorite Species for you-know-what :V
 <SonicMario> 
lol
 <Tailmon> 
ssb (◡‿◡✿)
 <Freakworld> 
nobody will vote it except for df
 <Tailmon> 
1-10-1
 <Tailmon> 
i'm dead
 <shoutmon> 
thats not true, banjo also loves scuttlebug
 <Freakworld> 
SCUTTLEBUG FOR FAVORITE SPECIES OGM YES
 <Gamefreak75> 
all memes should be dead
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so with this we have our final 3 mario awards to work on
 <Toadbert> 
greet
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=36456.0
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Favorite Level Theme
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
tucky has a nice proposed list including:
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Grass *Desert *Snow *Mountain *Underground *Beach *Sky *Jungle *Space *Lava *Ghost Houses *Underwater *Castle *Airship
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and edo has an idea for an alternative nominee
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
there might be others
 <Tailmon> 
i'm going to go eat
 <Toadbert> 
brag about it
 <shoutmon> 
can we add factory/industrial/pollution/something
 <Tailmon> 
i don't have any interest about this award so i won't comment about it
 <Toadbert> 
that list looks pretty good
 <shoutmon> 
i like those
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
industrial sounds like a good term for it
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
good list
 <Gabumon> 
does mario even have those
 <shoutmon> 
and i dont think it fits in any of those categories
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
i support it
 <SonicMario> 
What would you call the food/candy worlds
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
dkc
 <shoutmon> 
idk, dk has them
 <Gabumon> 
oh
 <shoutmon> 
dk is mario
 <Gabumon> 
right
 <Gamefreak75> 
ill vote for factory levels
 <Gamefreak75> 
or space levels
 <Gamefreak75> 
best levels
 <turb> 
factory levels sound good
 <Toadbert> 
how much dk rep are we going for
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
mario kart
 <Gamefreak75> 
i think its best if we wrote it like
 <Gamefreak75> 
factory/industrial
 <Gamefreak75> 
snow/ice
 <Toadbert> 
theres a few more themes in those that arent covered by mario
 <Gamefreak75> 
grasslands
 <Freakworld> 
tbh the list proposed by tucayo seems fine with me
 <Freakworld> 
adding factory i guess
 <Freakworld> 
+alternative
 <Nyrie> 
what about the carnival theme
 <Freakworld> 
sounds okay
 <Nyrie> 
from 3d wortld
 <Freakworld> 
n to that
 <Freakworld> 
too specific
 <Gamefreak75> 
carnival was only present in that one game though
 <Freakworld> 
its more an unique concept
 <Gamefreak75> 
at least to afair
 <Nyrie> 
i mean
 <Freakworld> 
like tick tock clock or w/e
 <shoutmon> 
i think its ok to add carnival if we have room
 <Toadbert> 
ok i think i gotta go eat too
 <Gamefreak75> 
afair
 <Nyrie> 
space levels were only in like 2 mario games
 <shoutmon> 
its new, so it has a chance of doing well
 <Gamefreak75> 
if we have room, yeah
 <shoutmon> 
and
 <Gabumon> 
I still think there should be an option for themes that arent part of the usual mario formula
 <Freakworld> 
space levels were also in sml2
 <turb> 
carnival
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
would edo's idea work as "Unique Concept"
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
that's a good wording
 <shoutmon> 
its not like its going to somehow make pepole just
 <SonicMario> 
3 if you count SML2
 <shoutmon> 
not vote
 <Nyrie> 
does the entirety of smg count as a space level
 <shoutmon> 
probably??
 <turb> 
i think carnival's fine
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
but
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
no
 <turb> 
i was trying to list off the games it appeared in but i forgot whoops
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
SPM
 <Freakworld> 
space has been in multiple games and stands for most of super mario galaxy
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
SPM had a space chapter
 <Gamefreak75> 
ttyd too
 <turb> 
also unique concept is fine i think
 <Freakworld> 
as well as beach stands for most of sms
 <Freakworld> 
so
 <shoutmon> 
so did sml2
 <shoutmon> 
i think
 <Freakworld> 
i think space is viable
 <shoutmon> 
ive never played that
 <Gamefreak75> 
although i guess ttyds is more industrial???
 <Freakworld> 
wheras carnival isnt like carnival themed levels in sonic
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
edo do you like that wording
 <Freakworld> 
where theres one in like
 <Freakworld> 
every second game
 <Gamefreak75> 
also unique concept as in like "not grass/desert/etc"
 <Gamefreak75> 
?
 <Gabumon> 
unique concept or non-formulaic concept
 <Freakworld> 
wow
 <Freakworld> 
i had lag
 <Gamefreak75> 
like not standard nsmb faire?
 <Gabumon> 
as in not the usual mario shit
 <Gamefreak75> 
ok
 <Freakworld> 
could someone plz scroll up and read my stuff
 <Gamefreak75> 
im fine with that
 <Gabumon> 
also
 <Nabber> 
maybe we should exclude 3d games from this?
 <Lakituthequick> 
the occasional Van Gogh et all
 <Gabumon> 
[01:44] Gamefreak75 although i guess ttyds is more industrial???
 <shoutmon> 
freaak world you were talking the whole time for me
 <Freakworld> 
against nabber
 <Gabumon> 
you cant really count ttyd's environments as levels
 <Freakworld> 
idk all of your messages just came in a bulk
 <Gamefreak75> 
well, not levels persay
 <shoutmon> 
yeah
 <Gamefreak75> 
but thematically
 <shoutmon> 
i think you're in pergatory like tb and i were last week
 <nico> 
time rift
 <Freakworld> 
theres a clear difference between unique and recurring concepts imo
 <Freakworld> 
this award already works really well as it stands
 <Freakworld> 
imho
 <Lakituthequick> 
i think tossing in a write-in box works too
 <shoutmon> 
i just assumed this would be a write-in award
 <shoutmon> 
it doesnt really work without it
 <Lakituthequick> 
then the presentation can highlight some
 <Freakworld> 
i guess it doesnt
 <Gamefreak75> 
all awards have write-ins though
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Grasslands *Desert *Snow/Ice *Mountain *Underground *Beach *Sky *Jungle *Space *Lava *Ghost Houses *Underwater *Castle *Airship *Factory/Industrial *Carnival *Unique Concept
 <Freakworld> 
but the main concepts are all there
 <Gamefreak75> 
i dont recall any without them
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
is the current listing
 <Gabumon> 
I think adding a unique/non-formulaic option and then no write ins would work better
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
I don't like the Unique concept thing
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
I hate it
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
it's very poorly defined
 <Gabumon> 
it is actually very clearly defined
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
it's the equivalent of including a write-in thing
 <Gabumon> 
the definition is
 <Freakworld> 
tbh it would probably better to just have write ins
 <Freakworld> 
instead of that option
 <Gabumon> 
"everything that is not on this list of shit youve seen a million times already"
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
and not knowing what was wrong
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
*was inputted
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
most interesting typo of the meeting
 <shoutmon> 
i really dont want a lack of a write-in box
 <Freakworld> 
all we can do is list recurring themes
 <Freakworld> 
oh boy 3 am soon
 <Lakituthequick> 
w00t
 <Tailmon> 
i said i wasn't going to say anything but i'd rather not leave out a write-in box
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
why not
 <turb> 
im neutral on the writein box
 <Freakworld> 
for the same reason we have write in boxes in the first place
 <shoutmon> 
because a lack of a write-in box, to me, implies that the given options include all possible choices
 <Lakituthequick> 
i think 'unique concept' and a writein box are more or less the smae
 <Tailmon> 
why not say anything or why not leave a write-in box
 <shoutmon> 
and we clearly can't do that here
 <Tailmon> 
yeah what 22 said
 <Lakituthequick> 
rather have the latter
 <Gabumon> 
if we're not doing the unique concept thing, there must be a write in box
 <shoutmon> 
there are an infinite number of possible level concepts
 <nico> 
dot we have a write in box for all awards
 <Freakworld> 
exactly edo
 <shoutmon> 
no tfp, we dont for favorite major character
 <nico> 
oh
 <Gabumon> 
I wont have just this list and no alternative
 <shoutmon> 
and we used to not for fav koopaling
 <shoutmon> 
but that's dead now
 <nico> 
wew
 <turb> 
i mean its just a blanket term for what the writein box would cover
 <shoutmon> 
idk if there's any other examples we still have on the awards
 <turb> 
it depends on whether you'd rather have people voting for that or just inputting their own level themes not on the award
 <nico> 
should we vote on including a box then
 <turb> 
i definitely think we should have at leas tone though
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
the write-in box would spread unique level votes like
 <Freakworld> 
probably
 <Gabumon> 
people must have a way of expressing if theyre sick of the formula environments
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
2 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
 <Gamefreak75> 
i dont see a reason not to have a write in
 <Freakworld> 
yeah edo
 <Gamefreak75> 
we can clump some of them together though
 <Gabumon> 
thats my main concern, anton
 <Freakworld> 
thats why a write in box
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if it's Level Theme
 <turb> 
yeah it depends on whether we want it spread out as more specific votes or as one whole "unique concept" blanket thing
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and not Level
 <shoutmon> 
doesnt every award have a load of 1 and 2 votes though
 <Lakituthequick> 
yeah
 <shoutmon> 
or a lot of them, anyway
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I think "Unique Concept" works fine as defining a unique level theme
 <Gamefreak75> 
yeah
 <Freakworld> 
i mean not voting the established options by zusing the write in box
 <Freakworld> 
is having the exact same effect
 <shoutmon> 
i feel like combining them all into one catch-all category just removes information from the results
 <Tailmon> 
i'd rather have them spread out tbh
 <shoutmon> 
without actually
 <Freakworld> 
but you also see which concept it was the person liked
 <shoutmon> 
changing what the results ARE in any way
 <Lakituthequick> 
per
 <Tailmon> 
per 22
 <Lakituthequick> 
if there are writeins with 20 votes then we can look at that one
 <Freakworld> 
per
 <Lakituthequick> 
'unique' removes that
 <turb> 
i guess i agree with that
 <Tailmon> 
i don't think unique concept covering every unique thing works as well
 <Tailmon> 
let them specify so we can see real results
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so I think we can perform a vote in this way
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'll post up the entire suggested list
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and then agree to take it in whole or not
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if not, we will work at it more
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
or if someone starts screaming about one specific thing
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
does that sound ok
 <Lakituthequick> 
yes
 <Gabumon> 
ok
 <Freakworld> 
y
 <Tailmon> 
ok
 <nico> 
ok
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok, so
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Accept these nominees in whole for Favorite Level Theme? (y/n/a)
 <Freakworld> 
which
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Grasslands *Desert *Snow/Ice *Mountain *Underground *Beach *Sky *Jungle *Space *Lava *Ghost Houses *Underwater *Castle *Airship *Factory/Industrial *Carnival (+ write-in box)
 <Freakworld> 
o
 <Freakworld> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Gabumon> 
y
 <shoutmon> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
y
 <nico> 
y
 <SonicMario> 
y
 <Nabber> 
y
 <SMB> 
Yes
 <turb> 
y
 <Gamefreak75> 
y
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
y
 <Tailmon> 
a
 <mcd> 
hell yeah
 <Gamefreak75> 
actually maybe Castle/Fortress?
 <Gabumon> 
wait, question
 <Gamefreak75> 
theyre essentially the same theme-wise anyways
 <Gabumon> 
carnival?
 <Gamefreak75> 
from 3d world
 <nico> 
sm3dw
 <shoutmon> 
carnival was in 3d land-- world
 <SMB> 
same thing
 <Tailmon> 
13-0-1
 <turb> 
there was also pinna park if you count that i guess
 <Gamefreak75> 
i guess parts of dkc2 count too
 <Gamefreak75> 
with the coasters
 <shoutmon> 
yeah thats true
 <nico> 
that whole world
 <shoutmon> 
krem quay
 <turb> 
i remember part of wlsi had it
 <nico> 
uhhh
 <nico> 
yea
 <nico> 
that one
 <shoutmon> 
was an amusement park
 <turb> 
krazy kremland you mean
 
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 <turb> 
i think krem quay was the swamp
 <turb> 
or maybe they were the same thing?
 <shoutmon> 
oh
 <shoutmon> 
no youre right
 <turb> 
idk
 <shoutmon> 
i got confused
 <Gamefreak75> 
yeah quay was the swamp
 <turb> 
o
 <nico> 
well
 <nico> 
you know what i mean
 <Stooben> 
http://www.mariowiki.com/Krazy_Kremland ?
 <Gamefreak75> 
oh yeah shake it had carnival levels
 <Freakworld> 
happy 3 am
 <Gamefreak75> 
what a good game that no one played
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so I guess this passes
 <Gabumon> 
idk, maybe including all the dk stuff in there is making the award a bit confused
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
hooray
 <Toadbert> 
im back
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
or maybe not
 <Gabumon> 
no its ok anton
 <Toadbert> 
are you still talking about themes
 <Gabumon> 
I doubt anyone will agree with me on this
 <Gabumon> 
but like
 <Gabumon> 
technically
 <Gabumon> 
if we include the dk stuff
 <Gabumon> 
wed also have to include wario stuff?
 <Gabumon> 
theres been multiple city-themed levels in wario games
 <shoutmon> 
we're not trying to get every possible theme, though
 <Lakituthequick> 
(will this be A13 btw)
 <shoutmon> 
just the ones we think are going to do well
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
probably ltq
 <Freakworld> 
oh right the cities
 <shoutmon> 
although
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
let's just say yeah
 <turb> 
i mean we can include the wario stuff
 <shoutmon> 
city might be a good theme tbh
 <Freakworld> 
in wl2 and 3
 <Toadbert> 
i cant say anything for wario
 <turb> 
i'm not opposed to it
 <Toadbert> 
besides wario world
 <shoutmon> 
to include
 <Freakworld> 
yeah thats been used a lot
 <turb> 
city comes up fairly often in mario too doesn't it
 <turb> 
or at least uh
 <turb> 
in dk94 or something
 <Freakworld> 
mario is missing
 <Toadbert> 
in mario kart its come up a few times
 <turb> 
some year in the 90s
 <Freakworld> 
kek
 <turb> 
yeah mario kart
 <Toadbert> 
mushroom city in double dash
 <nico> 
what the hell is dk94
 <turb> 
neo bowser city
 <turb> 
god idk what year it
 <Toadbert> 
sequel to dk64 tfp
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
donkey kong for the gameboy
 <turb> 
was
 <Gabumon> 
well if you go with something like town instead of city
 <Freakworld> 
the gameboy donkey kong
 <turb> 
yeah that
 <nico> 
why 94
 <Gabumon> 
you could include the hub from sms
 <nico> 
oh
 <turb> 
thats the year it came out
 <Freakworld> 
released in 94
 <Gamefreak75> 
City/Town?
 <Tailmon> 
it came out in 94
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
because it was released in '94
 <Toadbert> 
no gf
 <Toadbert> 
town and city
 <Toadbert> 
llllllllllllllllllllll
 <Gamefreak75> 
city folk
 <nico> 
ban tb
 <SMB> 
<@nico> what the hell is dk94
 <SMB> 
. . .
 <SMB> 
<@Toadbert> sequel to dk64 tfp
 <SMB> 
lel
 <Toadbert> 
actually
 <Tailmon> 
nintendo 94
 <Toadbert> 
i feel like theres been themes in mario kart weve probably missed
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
sure let's shoehorn in City/Town
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
that makes it at 17
 <Freakworld> 
rainbow road
 <shoutmon> 
space
 <Toadbert> 
but would race tracks count
 <Freakworld> 
im kidding btw
 <mcd> 
dk 128
 <shoutmon> 
is rainbow road
 <Freakworld> 
oh right
 <Toadbert> 
well rainbow road basically is a theme by now
 <Freakworld> 
its spaaace
 <Freakworld> 
we already cover space
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
is everyone content with this award
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Toadbert> 
ye
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
y
 <shoutmon> 
y
 <SonicMario> 
yep
 <turb> 
y
 <Nabber> 
y
 <Gabumon> 
I guess?
 <Tailmon> 
a
 <Gamefreak75> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we can always go over it again during the review
 <Freakworld> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
next up is Favorite DLC
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=36457.0
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
wwwwwwhat are the nominees
 <Freakworld> 
mario kart 8
 <Freakworld> 
ssb
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
obviously but
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
what are the nominees
 <Freakworld> 
we dont need any others
 <Toadbert> 
i feel like the mario-related smash dlc should be in
 <turb> 
uhhh
 <Toadbert> 
like the stages
 <turb> 
is there any mario-related smash dlc
 <Toadbert> 
which i guess is it
 <Tailmon> 
mario maker
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
there was some discussion in the thread as to how to group the ssb dlc
 <turb> 
what stages did they bring back
 <DragonFreak> 
i dont even know enough dlc to even name 3
 <Toadbert> 
mushroom kingdom 64 and mario maker
 <turb> 
o
 <SonicMario> 
And Peach's Castle 64
 <Freakworld> 
peachs castle
 <Tailmon> 
peachs castle 64
 <Toadbert> 
i know for sure
 <Toadbert> 
oh right
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Super Mario Maker is not DLC, that is content updates.
 <Toadbert> 
that
 <SonicMario> 
Toad Mii costume
 <Toadbert> 
were talking the smash stage pi
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Oh, okay.
 <turb> 
idk how we handle smash dlc
 <turb> 
like
 <Freakworld> 
tbh
 <Freakworld> 
i thought we were doing entire games
 <turb> 
we were upset about ssb stage but we have ssb character as an award
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we're talking about dlc
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Was that in a DLC?
 <Toadbert> 
i get what youre saying about smash being strange in this
 <Freakworld> 
and not individual dlc packs
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
well the dlc award but ___
 <Toadbert> 
but the directly mario dlc in smash seems good to me
 <turb> 
so do we just include the mario only stuff or all of the smash dlc collectively
 <Gamefreak75> 
tbf lucas dlc should win
 <turb> 
yeah i do agree we should at least include the mario dlc
 <Gamefreak75> 
also brb
 <turb> 
it's a matter of how far we want to go
 <Freakworld> 
i thought we had options for like
 <turb> 
with smash coverage
 <Toadbert> 
i would say mario dlc at minimum
 <shoutmon> 
i think only mario dlc needs to be in
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Mario Kart 8 is a must-have
 <Toadbert> 
people didnt like the total smash coverage before
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
i'd go with just mrio dlc
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
which
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
is the only DLC?
 <shoutmon> 
favorite smash bros fighter is a bad award anyway
 <shoutmon> 
and mk8 had multiple dlc packs, they can each be in separately
 <Freakworld> 
(ssb4, mk8, nsmb2, mario golf, mario tennis open which had dlc i think)
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
NSLU was DLC
 <SMB> 
I agree with 22
 <Freakworld> 
also nsmbu
 <Gabumon> 
I also agree with 22
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
got turned into a separate game
 <DragonFreak> 
can we add smg2 as dlc
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
no
 <DragonFreak> 
darn
 <Freakworld> 
tbh id rather have them be grouped for their respective games
 <Gabumon> 
what
 <Gabumon> 
why
 <Freakworld> 
because individual dlc would almost certainly lose to ssb imo
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
wait
 <Gabumon> 
if we include ssb
 <Toadbert> 
how would it lose to ssb
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
gabumon what do you mean with 'why'
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
what is that addressing
 <Gabumon> 
[03:07] DragonFreak can we add smg2 as dlc
 <Freakworld> 
and we cant really break up ssb that much
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
oh
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
it's because of the meme
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
that smg2 is a level pack of smg
 <Freakworld> 
id rather not drop ssb its pretty crucial to the entire dlc thing
 <Gabumon> 
how is it
 <DragonFreak> 
i always viewed smg2 as a dlc cause it's exactly the same'
 <Toadbert> 
fw: i was under the impression we were just adding the mario dlc stages in smash
 <Freakworld> 
theres like one
 <Toadbert> 
two
 <Freakworld> 
that would be extremely unrepresentating
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
does it matter if ssb is underrepresented
 <Freakworld> 
in this case yes
 <shoutmon> 
we dont need to represent non-mario content
 <Gabumon> 
we are not obligated to represent ssb
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it's not ssb awards
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
but no
 <shoutmon> 
because it's not part of the awards
 <shoutmon> 
its fine to only represent the relevant parts of ssb
 <Gabumon> 
its just something we have done in the past because it was popular
 <Gamefreak75> 
back
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
hi
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Freakworld, if every single pack needs to be represented, our New Super Mario Bros. 2 nominee needs to be dramatically expanded. I do not want this to happen.
 <Gabumon> 
if ssb DLC is causing too many problems, it can be cut out
 <Freakworld> 
thats why i suggested just listing the games that have dlc and not the individual dlc
 <shoutmon> 
but
 <Gabumon> 
but this is the favorite DLC award
 <Freakworld> 
that was the initial impression i got of the award anyways
 <shoutmon> 
that's a really confusing way to do it
 <DragonFreak> 
i feel like the invidivual would be good but we dont have to do every single dlc
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
How is this confusing?
 <SMB> 
The problem with covering SSB is that Mario fans will always favor Mario aspects of awards.
 <Gabumon> 
not the favorite way a game handled their DLC award
 <Freakworld> 
idk if thats not what we want to do we can cut ssb imo
 <shoutmon> 
how is what freakworld said NOT confusing
 <shoutmon> 
people would jsut vote for whichever game they liked best
 <Freakworld> 
because honestly ssb has too much dlc to be handled individually
 <shoutmon> 
not the one that had the best dlc
 <Freakworld> 
no
 <shoutmon> 
freakworld
 <shoutmon> 
it only has two mario related dlcs
 <SMB> 
If this were an awards ceremony for a Nintendo website, in-depth Smash coverage would make sense.
 <shoutmon> 
we only need to handle those
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
But the /entire point/ with this award is to judge the DLC /separately/, is it not?
 <shoutmon> 
that's not too much
 <Toadbert> 
judging the whole game for all of its dlc makes no sense
 <Toadbert> 
especially if all the dlc comes in more than one package
 <DragonFreak> 
plus if we do it by game with dlc people are just going to vote for their favorite game anyways
 <turb> 
yeah per tb
 <Freakworld> 
brb
 
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 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
I was under the impression that we were polling how much each DLC added to the game?
 <Gamefreak75> 
its easier to do it by individual dlc yeah
 <shoutmon> 
so
 <Tailmon> 
i agree with everyone pretty much
 <Tailmon> 
except freakworld
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
We ought to properly define this and it has not been done yet, which is why I am confused.
 <shoutmon> 
does anyone else have a problem with just including the mario related smash dlc
 <shoutmon> 
and leaving the other smash dlc off
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Favorite DLC is an award covering the DLC
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I support it being the individual DLCs
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
I have a problem discussing nominees until we have completed our definition of the award.
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
which implies only the two relevant things from SSB
 <Toadbert> 
thats what i figured
 <Toadbert> 
and what everyone but freakworld seems to have figured
 <turb> 
yeah
 <Gamefreak75> 
i was always under the impression it was individual dlc
 <shoutmon> 
well pidgey, there's no way to define it until we know what people want it to be
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
The discussion at hand needs to be about defining the award, and then finding fitting nominees.
 <Gamefreak75> 
like mk x tloz is one
 <shoutmon> 
which is why im asking...
 <Gamefreak75> 
and mk x animal crossing is another
 <Gamefreak75> 
etc
 <SMB> 
<@shoutmon> does anyone else have a problem with just including the mario related smash dlc
 <SMB> 
<@shoutmon> and leaving the other smash dlc off
 <SMB> 
No problem here.
 <Gabumon> 
pidgey, what kind of definition are you looking for
 <Gamefreak75> 
can we say its by individual dlc to cut us this headache?
 <Gabumon> 
what is unclear
 <Gamefreak75> 
please
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
I want to know what we mean by 'favourite DLC'.
 <turb> 
individual dlc
 <turb> 
that seems to be what everyone agrees on
 <Toadbert> 
favourite thing you can buy off the nintendo shop
 <turb> 
besides freakworld
 <turb> 
yeah
 <Toadbert> 
that adds into a preexisting game
 <Gabumon> 
the individual DLC package that you liked the most
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
toadbert sums it up easily
 <Gabumon> 
the reason why you liked it, whether its like fair pricing, good content, a mixture of both, or whatever
 <SMB> 
I think it means any substantial DLC package that supplements a Mario-game, or Mario-related DLC for another game.
 <Gabumon> 
is up to everyone personally
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Okay, I am now fine with this.
 <SMB> 
and obviously what others said above
 <shoutmon> 
wait, mario related dlc fro another game?
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Except, one thing.
 <SMB> 
Smash
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
What do we do with New Super Luigi U?
 <Gamefreak75> 
monter hunter
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*The Legend of Zelda x Mario Kart 8 *Animal Crossing x Mario Kart 8 *Mercedes-Benz × Mario Kart 8 *New Super Luigi U *Coin Rush packs *Mario Golf; World Tour season pass *Peach's Castle stage (SSB) *Mario Maker stage (SSB)
 <shoutmon> 
didnt sonic colors have a mario themed dlc
 <Gamefreak75> 
and style savvy
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
is what I have right now
 <Gamefreak75> 
sonic lost world had yoshi stuff
 <shoutmon> 
ok maybe it was that
 <shoutmon> 
not a sonic fan, sorry
 <Toadbert> 
actually
 <SMB> 
Hmmm
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Mercedes-Benz did not cost anything to download.
 <SMB> 
Would that count?
 <Toadbert> 
theres probably some mii costumes for smash too
 <Toadbert> 
that are mario related
 <Gamefreak75> 
its ok its hard being a sonic fan right now
 
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 <Tailmon> 
it was sonic lost world
 <Toadbert> 
but how many people really bother with the mii costumes
 <Gamefreak75> 
its still dlc................
 <SMB> 
Hypothetically, we're making an exception for Smash, which technically isn't a Mario game.
 <Gamefreak75> 
pleas lets not do this
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
New Super Luigi U
 <Tailmon> 
i was thinking about bringing that up but i wasn't sure if that counted
 <Tailmon> 
yeah tb there's like
 <Tailmon> 
four of them
 <Toadbert> 
fuc
 <Tailmon> 
ashley, king k rool, toad, geno
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
I think we need to discuss whether New Super Luigi U is to be counted.
 <Gamefreak75> 
just throw in SSB4 Mii Costumes
 <Toadbert> 
oh
 <Toadbert> 
geno costume might be big
 <Gamefreak75> 
nslu counts
 <Freakworld> 
imo either include all smash dlc or cut all of it
 <Tailmon> 
i don't know if anyone really cares about those, though
 <Gamefreak75> 
it was originally download only
 <Gamefreak75> 
for nsmbu
 <SonicMario> 
Wasn't Luigi U an expansion of NSMBU before it was released seperately?
 <Tailmon> 
i think nslu counts
 <Tailmon> 
it was dlc
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
It is a stand-alone game which can be downloaded or purchased physically these days.
 <Freakworld> 
if we really have to keep the mario stages and whatever
 <shoutmon> 
i think nslu counts too
 <SonicMario> 
If so then yeah it should count
 <turb> 
i think it counts
 <shoutmon> 
it was originally a dlc
 <Freakworld> 
nslu definately is dlc
 <Nabber> 
i don't think nslu counts
 <Nabber> 
is a separate game
 <Freakworld> 
no
 <Toadbert> 
thats what i thought
 <Freakworld> 
its a dlc for nsmbu
 <Nabber> 
*it's
 <shoutmon> 
the disc release is basically a rerelease
 <Gamefreak75> 
can we have a reason why it doesnt count
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
It's both, really.
 <Gamefreak75> 
please
 <Toadbert> 
i didnt know it was dlc only for a while though so
 <Lakituthequick> 
have a vote about that maybe
 <Tailmon> 
i don't think it matters if it can be bought separately if it was originally dlc
 <Toadbert> 
sure
 <Nabber> 
is it not a completely new set of 80-something levels?
 <Tailmon> 
and can still be bought as dlc
 <Freakworld> 
the disc also includes nsmbu doesnt it
 <shoutmon> 
but its a downloadable addition to nsmbu
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
No, my disc only has NSLU on it.
 
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 <Nabber> 
it's less of DLC and more of a new game that was just released digitally
 <shoutmon> 
so its a dlc
 <Freakworld> 
rly
 <shoutmon> 
in the original release you needed nsmbu to play it
 <Gamefreak75> 
but it was marketed as dlc
 <Gabumon> 
ok so
 <shoutmon> 
thats what makes it a dlc
 <Nabber> 
i guess but it feels weird having a whole complete game compete against like
 <Nabber> 
a couple of characters
 <Freakworld> 
its still dlc imo
 <Gamefreak75> 
that was limited a physical release because of year og luigi
 <Gabumon> 
there is obviously still need for discussion for this award
 <Gabumon> 
maybe we should move it to the forum
 <Tailmon> 
nslu vs geno mii costume
 <Freakworld> 
nslu isnt nearly as popular as mi dl believe e
 <Tailmon> 
maybe
 <Freakworld> 
*mk8
 
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm posting in the thread that the topic will continue there
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if every nominee is going to be debated upon we can't do that in a short meeting
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=36457.msg1825820#msg1825820
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
with that, we can continue onto the next topic
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=36454.0
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Favorite Super Mario Maker Design Element
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I have absolutely no idea so someone who's played the game tell me what there is
 <Gamefreak75> 
stackable enemies
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
there's some prospective lists in the topic
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
making enemies big
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
are those complete lists
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
idk I haven't played it and I was the one to nominat eit
 <Tailmon> 
i haven't played it either
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
*nominate
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
well, /a/ list
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
* Sound effects * Winged enemies * Giant enemies * Koopa Clown Car * Key Coins * Objects in Bill Blasters * Music Blocks * Spiny/Buzzy Beetle shell helmets * Level theme changes * Game theme changes
 <Gabumon> 
from what ive seen, people really like stacking things and putting wings on everything
 <Lakituthequick> 
are all neat things
 <Gamefreak75> 
mystery mushrooms
 <Lakituthequick> 
but theres nore to ti still
 <Gamefreak75> 
i dont see those on there
 <Lakituthequick> 
*more *it
 <shoutmon> 
yeah i think mystery mushrooms should go on
 <shoutmon> 
they seem popular
 <Gamefreak75> 
and stackable enemies
 <Gamefreak75> 
that list seems fine
 <Gabumon> 
agree with both
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Sound effects *Winged enemies *Giant enemies *Koopa Clown Car *Key Coins *Objects in Bill Blasters *Music Blocks *Spiny/Buzzy Beetle shell helmets *Level theme changes *Game theme changes *Stackable enemies *Mystery mushrooms
 <turb> 
this list looks good right now
 
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 <turb> 
can;t think of any other elements
 <Gamefreak75> 
how many options is that now
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
hi fw how's this for mario maker elements
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Sound effects *Winged enemies *Giant enemies *Koopa Clown Car *Key Coins *Objects in Bill Blasters *Music Blocks *Spiny/Buzzy Beetle shell helmets *Level theme changes *Game theme changes *Stackable enemies *Mystery mushrooms
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
I, too, like the proposed list.
 <Gamefreak75> 
12
 <Gamefreak75> 
right now
 <Freakworld> 
y
 <Tailmon> 
seems ok
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
honestly
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if we can't decide on DLC
 <Freakworld> 
did we move favorite dlc to forum
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and we have this one pretty set and everyone happy with it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
how about
 <Lakituthequick> 
swap it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we make Mario Maker the guaranteed add, yeah
 <Gabumon> 
yup
 <Freakworld> 
yeah
 <turb> 
yeah make mario maker guaranteed
 <Gamefreak75> 
im fine with that
 <shoutmon> 
ok
 <Lakituthequick> 
lets do that
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and DLC the one we have 3 months to fuck around with
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
the difference was only 1 vote anyway
 <Lakituthequick> 
fight about dlc if nintendo doesn't make e3 worthfull
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
soz to whoever placed that one vote
 <Freakworld> 
dlc sounds unfun if its by individual dlc imo xD
 <Tailmon> 
rip
 <Freakworld> 
i want the ssb vs mk8 battle
 <Gabumon> 
mario maker was my top pick anyway
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
It was also mine but it was my nomination so I suffer from IKEA-syndrome here.
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
IKEA-syndrome is a real thing by the way, look it up.
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
It's quite interesting.
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Or is it the IKEA-effect?
 <Freakworld> 
is that the one where you start talking swedish
 <Toadbert> 
is it where youre a shittily built dresser
 <Gabumon> 
is it the one where you fall apart, try to reassemble yourself, and end up with three extra parts
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
No, it's the one where you value the things you assemble more but only when it's in an assembled state. It is named the IKEA effect because that it what you do with IKEA's furniture.
 <Freakworld> 
or youre forced to use ikea instructions for the rest of your life
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
A22) Favorite Mario Maker Design Element (Sound effects, Winged enemies, Giant enemies, Koopa Clown Car, Key Coins, Objects in Bill Blasters, Music Blocks, Spiny/Buzzy Beetle shell helmets, Level theme changes, Game theme changes, Stackable enemies, Mystery mushrooms)
 <Freakworld> 
were derailing tbh
 <Gamefreak75> 
half my room is stuff from IKEA lol
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
is now set
 <Freakworld> 
mine as well lol
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we will still discuss DLC but it will be as the 3rd replacement
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
later
 <Toadbert> 
f
 <Gamefreak75> 
im trying to think of stuff to add to mm
 <Gamefreak75> 
but nothing comes to mind tbh
 <shoutmon> 
bowser
 <Toadbert> 
invisible coin block shit levels
 <shoutmon> 
hes a design element
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
sorry, i got called away
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
what did i miss
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
wasn't there a new element added
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
hiding keys in shit
 <Gamefreak75> 
no input necessary levels
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
yes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
doesn't everyone hate that actually
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
key coins
 <Gamefreak75> 
key coins
 <Freakworld> 
oh uh
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
i was here when we were discussing the definition of DLC
 <Freakworld> 
do we have noteblocks
 <Tailmon> 
isn't that already on there
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
and then had to go, os
 <Gamefreak75> 
music blocks
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I guess it is
 <Gamefreak75> 
both are on there
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I just didn't know the name
 <Freakworld> 
oh yeah
 <Freakworld> 
okay
 <Freakworld> 
then we have everything i think
 <Gabumon> 
what about the thing where you go to a place in the level and it starts playing boss music
 <Gabumon> 
isnt that a thing
 <Gamefreak75> 
its part of the sound effects
 <Lakituthequick> 
is a sound efect yeah
 <Gamefreak75> 
or its listed in that category in game
 <Gamefreak75> 
with all the other sound effects
 <Gabumon> 
I saw a recreation of bob omb battlefield and it played boss music on top of the mountain
 <Gabumon> 
ok
 <Freakworld> 
sound effect y
 <Freakworld> 
when is sticker star awards
 <Freakworld> 
i mean
 <Freakworld> 
fail awards
 <Gabumon> 
if we have sound effects on the list
 <Gabumon> 
what about visual effects
 <Gabumon> 
or are those counted as the same as well
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
okay, late but
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
i approve of swapping mario maker and dlc
 <Gamefreak75> 
yeah theyre with sound effects as well
 <Freakworld> 
as a mario maker design element?
 <Gamefreak75> 
put it as Sound/Visual Effects
 <Freakworld> 
per gf
 <Gabumon> 
or maybe just special effects
 <Gamefreak75> 
most of the visual effects have an accompanying sound
 <Lakituthequick> 
*all
 <Freakworld> 
special effects would also include autoscrolling though
 <Lakituthequick> 
all of them have sounds as thats what they are
 <Freakworld> 
thats a bit too broad imo
 <Gabumon> 
ok
 <Lakituthequick> 
they also have visuals most of the time
 <Gabumon> 
well I guess if we can think of more, those suggestions could always go in the forum thread
 <shoutmon> 
can you do autoscrolling in mario maker?
 <shoutmon> 
ive never seen it
 <Freakworld> 
yes
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
yes
 <Lakituthequick> 
you can yes
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
three speeds
 <shoutmon> 
is that new?
 <Gabumon> 
yeah ive seen it done
 <Lakituthequick> 
no
 <Freakworld> 
no
 <shoutmon> 
weird
 <Freakworld> 
just not many levels using it
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
nobody does it because nobody liked it in the first place :P
 <shoutmon> 
well thats probably because autoscrolling sucks i guess
 <Tailmon> 
who would use autoscrolling
 <Lakituthequick> 
lots of autoplaying music levels use it
 <Freakworld> 
per
 <Tailmon> 
disgusting
 <Gabumon> 
whats next
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'll change that one to Special Effects
 <SonicMario> 
I've seen enough autoscrolling in 100 Mario Challenge that I get annoyed by it alot xP
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
next is starting Fail Awards
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
turb it's ur time to shine
 <turb> 
oh ok
 <turb> 
uhh so
 <turb> 
im sure everyone here knows what the fail awards are about
 <Freakworld> 
no
 <turb> 
no explanation needed there
 <Tailmon> 
are they about concrete
 <Nyrie> 
they're about mario
 <turb> 
theyre about stuff in mario that sucks
 <Freakworld> 
is mayonnaise an insttru
 <Gamefreak75> 
wtf fail awards? since when did we have those
 <Lakituthequick> 
i lived under a rock last year i forgot
 <Freakworld> 
*intrument
 <turb> 
anyway i don't actually know if
 <Nyrie> 
and LOTS OFD SPAGHERIT
 <DragonFreak> 
are they about birdo hating :(
 <Lakituthequick> 
(yeah i know)
 <turb> 
we need any other things
 <turb> 
so i'm gonna post f1
 <shoutmon> 
we should just rename them the mario awards in that case
 <turb> 
good one
 <turb> 
Worst Character (Mario, Daisy, Waluigi, Wario, Petey Piranha, Birdo, Mimi, Starlow, Lubba, Peach, Bowser Jr., Toad, Fawful, Pink Gold Peach, Baby Rosalina)
 <turb> 
are there any changes needed here
 <Freakworld> 
add tobawani
 <Gamefreak75> 
poor waluigi
 <Nyrie> 
i dont think so
 <Tailmon> 
add freakworld
 <shoutmon> 
add freakworld
 <Nyrie> 
kersti??
 <Gamefreak75> 
no changes though
 <DragonFreak> 
oh fw you shouldnt have
 <Freakworld> 
y
 <Nyrie> 
that's all i can think of
 <Gabumon> 
delete freakworld
 <Nyrie> 
because everyone hates kersti
 <turb> 
let me see if there's any significant writeins
 <Gamefreak75> 
so how long is fw's forum ban going to be
 <Tailmon> 
kersti would be ok
 <Gabumon> 
approve of kerstis addition
 <turb> 
Starlow – 14 (1.83%)
 <turb> 
Toad – 13 (1.7%)
 <turb> 
Peach – 12 (1.57%)
 <turb> 
O. Rosalina – 9
 <DragonFreak> 
[s]remove birdo[/s]
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm ok with adding Kersti since we're going to be removing PM Partner anyways
 <turb> 
O. Luigi – 4
 <Tailmon> 
i need to see the writeins and the lowest placing nominees to really say anything else
 <turb> 
kersti got 2 writeins
 <Gamefreak75> 
oh we removed worst partner
 <Tailmon> 
oh rip
 <turb> 
but yeah if pm partner is being axed i would be fine with adding her
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
not "officially" but
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it sucks
 <Nyrie> 
oh
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and we're gonna remove it
 <Gamefreak75> 
im fine with adding kersti
 <Nyrie> 
should we also add rosalina
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
future sight
 <Tailmon> 
i would still be ok with adding her
 <shoutmon> 
yeah good idea
 <turb> 
we're gonna save goombario
 <Gamefreak75> 
in that case
 <Nyrie> 
because write ins
 <shoutmon> 
adding kersti
 <turb> 
as much as i like rosalina i do think we should add her to be fair
 <Freakworld> 
if we remove worst partner add kersti
 <Gamefreak75> 
rosalina was voted because of butthurt fanboys
 <SMB> 
<@turb> we're gonna save goombario
 <Nyrie> 
yea
 <SMB> 
YES
 <nico> 
why do people hate goombario anyway
 <Gamefreak75> 
if we have room, then i guess though
 <turb> 
because theyre fucking dumb
 <Nyrie> 
because goombas
 <Freakworld> 
dont add rosalina tbh
 <turb> 
hes the best partner
 <Tailmon> 
she won worst pm partner every year she was added anyway lol
 <shoutmon> 
it was just that one guy who calls her a slunt voting with his 18 socks
 <nico> 
yea i like him
 <Tailmon> 
i think anyway
 <SMB> 
People who don't know how to Paper Mario
 <Nyrie> 
slunt
 <turb> 
anyway if everyone is ok with tht i guess i'll call a vote
 <Gabumon> 
theyre jealous because he has a hat and they dont
 <nico> 
lol
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Goombario is disliked because LOL KOOPER
 <turb> 
add rosalina?
 <Tailmon> 
i'm also fine with rosalina
 <Nyrie> 
rosalina makes sense
 <Nabber> 
people are racist against goombas
 <Gamefreak75> 
a
 <turb> 
y/n/a
 <DragonFreak> 
y
 <turb> 
a
 <Nyrie> 
she's a good character but she got 9 writeins
 <Freakworld> 
goombario is a good character but useless asf
 <Nyrie> 
y
 <Freakworld> 
n
 <Nabber> 
i mean rosalina is probably going to get a lot of fanboy hate but so does like, every award
 <Nabber> 
so y
 <Tailmon> 
she got the most writeins by far so
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I like rosalina but the write-ins
 <Tailmon> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I have to
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
y
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
y
 <SonicMario> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <shoutmon> 
n
 <Freakworld> 
if we go by write ins
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
I've seen the memes, people think Rosalina is Nintendo's Lightning.
 <Freakworld> 
change to y
 <Nyrie> 
are we adding kersti as well
 <Gabumon> 
a
 <Tailmon> 
9-1-3
 <turb> 
we'll call a vote for kersti after this
 <SMB> 
Yes
 <Nyrie> 
alright
 <shoutmon> 
wait
 <Tailmon> 
10-1-3
 <Freakworld> 
is it bad that i like both rosalina and lightning
 <shoutmon> 
wy does kooper mke people vote foe goombario, what
 <SMB> 
and also yes on Kersti too
 <SMB> 
when that vote comes up
 <SMB> 
because brb
 <turb> 
does anyone else want to give their input
 <Nyrie> 
no
 <turb> 
also ill brb for like 5 seconds
 <turb> 
if im gone too long we can just start the kersti vote
 <Nyrie> 
its been 5 seconds
 <Toadbert> 
aw god whatd i miss already
 <Freakworld> 
turb for best host 2k16
 <Toadbert> 
i was only gone a few minutes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
kersti and rosalina, is there anyone else
 <nico> 
you missed the awards
 <Tailmon> 
hes been gone too long
 <Tailmon> 
we need to kick him off
 <nico> 
we got banned next year because we didnt present our award
 <Tailmon> 
i think that's it yeah
 <turb> 
alright im here
 <nico> 
faget
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
oh I guess the kersti vote lol
 <Nyrie> 
is starlow on there
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I just assumed
 <turb> 
tb do you want to add rosalina to f1
 <Tailmon> 
yeah we need to vote
 <Tailmon> 
yes
 <Toadbert> 
whats f1
 <turb> 
yeah starlow is there
 <Tailmon> 
starlow is there
 <Toadbert> 
worst character?
 <turb> 
worst character
 <nico> 
worst char
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Did we add Rosalina?
 <Tailmon> 
worst character
 <turb> 
she got 9 writeins
 <Toadbert> 
uhhhhhh
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Are we still voting on Rosalina?
 <Tailmon> 
i think we're adding her
 <turb> 
i mean
 <Toadbert> 
y sure why not
 <Nyrie> 
yes
 <Lakituthequick> 
rosie was addaed
 <turb> 
we should probably just add her
 <turb> 
ok
 <turb> 
add kersti?
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
'her'
 <turb> 
y
 <Tailmon> 
11-1-3
 <Freakworld> 
y
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
y
 <SonicMario> 
y
 <Gabumon> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
y
 <Tailmon> 
y
 <nico> 
aare we voting for kersti or rosalina
 <Nabber> 
y
 <shoutmon> 
y
 <Freakworld> 
kersti didnt burn enough in worst pm partner
 <turb> 
kersti tfp
 <Tailmon> 
kersti
 <nico> 
ok
 <nico> 
y
 <Gamefreak75> 
y
 <DragonFreak> 
y
 <Tailmon> 
13-0-0
 <Nyrie> 
y
 <Toadbert> 
a
 <Tailmon> 
14-0-1
 <Freakworld> 
i swear if kersti doesnt win thisi will lose faith in mario fanboys and fangirls
 <nico> 
but fw
 <nico> 
people actually like ss
 <turb> 
well
 <turb> 
this is probably enough
 <SonicMario> 
I think Pink Gold Peach will probably still win but Kersti could be at least a contender for this one.
 <Freakworld> 
no i refuse to acknowledge tat
 <Freakworld> 
*tjat
 <Freakworld> 
*tht*
 <Freakworld> 
***that
 <turb> 
i think everyone else is afk and no ones going to swarm us with 'no's anyway
 <Lakituthequick> 
first try fw
 <Tailmon> 
is someone trying to make more typos than me
 <turb> 
i'm going to assume no one wants to add any other characters
 <turb> 
no one else had a significant amount of writeins
 <Nyrie> 
add mario
 <Toadbert> 
add shigeru
 <DragonFreak> 
[20:42] Freakworld i swear if kersti doesnt win thisi will lose faith in mario fanboys and fangirls
 <turb> 
anton/edo/22 do you want to just skip over mario party board
 <Nyrie> 
wait he's already in there
 <DragonFreak> 
it will probably be baby rosalina or birdo anyways
 <Freakworld> 
mario was a mistake
 <Nyrie> 
shit lol
 <turb> 
because it probably is getting nuked
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we haven't officially decided on nuking it so we can vote
 <shoutmon> 
uhhh fine by me
 <turb> 
alright
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
the reason being
 <Gabumon> 
are we going to discuss replacement ideas after we went throughthe list?
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
the results are the same absolutely every year
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
there's a bunch
 <Gabumon> 
ok
 <turb> 
Worst Mario Party Board (Peach's Birthday Cake, Mystery Land, Faire Square, Windmillville, King Boo's Haunted Hideaway, Toad Road, Kamek's Library, Spiny Desert, Goomba's Greedy Gala, Toy Dream, Rocket Road, Airship Central)
 <turb> 
should we nuke this
 <Freakworld> 
y
 <Gamefreak75> 
i remember my presentation for mario party board
 <Nyrie> 
y
 <Gamefreak75> 
good times
 <shoutmon> 
y
 <Gabumon> 
yes
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
y
 <turb> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <DragonFreak> 
a
 <Gamefreak75> 
rip
 <Toadbert> 
a
 <Gamefreak75> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
worst mp minigame being the idea to directly replace it
 <SonicMario> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but, we can discuss that later
 <nico> 
y
 <Nabber> 
y
 <nico> 
i like minigame better
 <Gamefreak75> 
we should try to at least get one minigame from each game
 <nico> 
yea
 <nico> 
like
 <nico> 
the worst one from each
 <nico> 
max 2
 <Tailmon> 
y
 <turb> 
we have to find people who played mp10 LOL
 <nico> 
i did
 <shoutmon> 
get a rope
 <Gamefreak75> 
theres like 13 mp games right?
 <Tailmon> 
minigame is probably better
 <nico> 
then my friend sold it
 <nico> 
lo
 <Gamefreak75> 
also yeah lol
 <Freakworld> 
theres 12
 <Tailmon> 
13-0-2
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
invite special guest 3d Player into next meeting
 <Freakworld> 
13
 <Toadbert> 
mario party 10
 <Gamefreak75> 
no one played mp10 here
 <turb> 
anyway i guess everyone wants this gone
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
he played it
 <Gamefreak75> 
hopefully
 <Freakworld> 
i forgot about it
 <SMB> 
Back
 <Freakworld> 
sorry
 <turb> 
so uh
 <Toadbert> 
not the 10th game, but the amount of people who played it
 <turb> 
smb what do you think about nuking favorite mp board
 <nico> 
i dunno
 <turb> 
before we go to f3
 <nico> 
it wasnt so bad
 <turb> 
err
 <nico> 
it was just like mp9
 <turb> 
worst mp board
 <turb> 
sorry
 <nico> 
but you can play as rosalina
 <Tailmon> 
favorite worst mp board
 <SonicMario> 
Forget people who played Mario Party 10. WHat about Mario Party Advance :V (Though I think it could be fine to not have that one represented)
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
'm down for the removal of worst mp board and worst partner
 <nico> 
i played that too
 <shoutmon> 
i played mario party advance
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
and the addition of worst minigame
 <nico> 
that was fun
 <nico> 
i mean
 <nico> 
it wasnt mario party
 <nico> 
but
 <shoutmon> 
it had like 4 minigames iirc
 <nico> 
it was fun
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
mpa had a lot of minigames
 <nico> 
the bullet bill one was my favourite
 <turb> 
yeah it did
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
all of which reused music from mp4
 <nico> 
i was good at that one
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I mean I guess we can decide to accept minigame now
 <turb> 
if you guys just want to move on to f3 we can
 <turb> 
or that
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and get a head start on nominee generation
 <shoutmon> 
actually are we limiting this to mario party minigames
 <turb> 
either one's fine with me
 <Gabumon> 
wait
 <shoutmon> 
i guess thats the idea
 <shoutmon> 
but should we?
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
like the 2d level poll
 <Gabumon> 
if there is multiple replacement ideas
 <Freakworld> 
worst microgame
 <Gamefreak75> 
worst wario ware minigame as well?
 <Gamefreak75> 
id be down for that too
 <Gabumon> 
then deciding on this specific one now is going to give it an unfair advantage
 <Freakworld> 
me as well
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Worst Direction of Series *Worst SSB Stage *Worst 2D Level *Worst 3D Level *Worst MP Minigame
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
are the options
 <turb> 
we could just flesh out the replacement ideas and decide on them at the end maybe
 <Gabumon> 
it should be weighted against all the other replacement ideas
 <shoutmon> 
i was thinking of mario 64 ds minigames
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
whoops
 <Gabumon> 
at the end
 <SonicMario> 
I think there's way too many microgames to really pin down.
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ssb stage is on there twice LOL
 <turb> 
i was thinking of wl4 minigames
 <turb> 
lul
 <shoutmon> 
but like really i think it could be opened to all minigames
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
oh nvm it's not
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but it is on my list
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
forget me
 <Freakworld> 
also the most disappointing new game thing
 <Freakworld> 
mcd suggested earlier
 <mcd> 
most disappointing new game :(
 <mcd> 
using the nominees from upcoming game last year
 <Freakworld> 
idk
 <mcd> 
the :( is part of the title
 <Freakworld> 
oh
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so yeah I guess we should just run through the list
 <shoutmon> 
lol
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Has there been /anything/ about Mario Party minigames in the past?
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and see how many to remove first
 <turb> 
sounds good
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
next meeting we can generate new ideas
 <turb> 
in that case i'm gonna go on to f3 if you're fine with it
 <Gamefreak75> 
yeah
 <turb> 
it's not getting replaced but we can probably finish it up in 10 minutes
 <Gabumon> 
worst item
 <Gamefreak75> 
will there be a topic for worst mp minigame?
 <turb> 
Worst Item (Poison Mushroom, Trial Stew, Blue Shell, Dried 'Shroom, Mistake, Spring Mushroom, Fake Item Box, Thunder Cloud, Coin (Mariokart))
 <Gamefreak75> 
or not yet
 <Gabumon> 
I dont really like this award
 <mcd> 
no
 <turb> 
idk i'm neutral on it
 <Gabumon> 
the problem I see is
 <Freakworld> 
im neutral on this as well
 <mcd> 
they're all items from different series
 <mcd> 
it's hard to compare them
 <Gabumon> 
all kinds of different shit is on there
 <turb> 
we could replace it if we wanted to
 <Gabumon> 
different categories
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
results have been similar enough each year
 <Gabumon> 
youre compairing powerups with mario kart items
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
not identical, but pretty predictable
 <turb> 
we have enough suggestions i'm fairly sure
 <turb> 
and yeah
 <Gabumon> 
and those with RPG recovery items
 <Gabumon> 
its a mess
 <Freakworld> 
this isnt a must-stay award so
 <mcd> 
with the mario kart items it also depends whether you're looking at them from a position of "the item is helping you" or "the item is hindering you"
 <Gabumon> 
I really think this needs to be revamped
 <Gamefreak75> 
im fine with nuking it if we have solid replacements
 
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 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
i would be okay with giving this a chance to be reworked
 <Freakworld> 
per gf
 <Freakworld> 
and chao
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ftr
 
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 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
and then cutting it if we can't make it good
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
removing this would make it 4 awards slated to be removed
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and there's 4, I believe, strong new ideas
 <turb> 
^
 <Utsuchao_Reiuji> 
PM Partner, Item, MP Board, and Final Smash?
 <Freakworld> 
that sounds good enough
 <Freakworld> 
i think so
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Worst Direction of Series *Worst 2D Level *Worst 3D Level *Worst MP Minigame
 <turb> 
we have 5 new ideas overall afaik
 <turb> 
oh
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
SSB Stage is another but
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
_______________
 <turb> 
was counting ssb stage but
 <turb> 
no one likes that
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
precedent is to not prioritize it
 <Gabumon> 
just a heads up: im going to oppose worst ssb stage
 <Freakworld> 
worst 3d level -----> corona mountain
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we voted it low for the new mario award ideas
 <Freakworld> 
/award
 <Toadbert> 
why is final smash a thing but not stage
 <Toadbert> 
are you just considering mario characters final smashes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
final smash is one to be removed
 <Toadbert> 
oh
 
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 <SMB> 
I will also oppose SSB stage
 <shoutmon> 
yeah me too
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
I will also oppose SSB stage
 <Freakworld> 
im per replacing fs with stage
 <turb> 
i oppose ssb stage
 <Freakworld> 
get rid of fs anyways
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so are we voting to remove Worst Item
 <Freakworld> 
i dont care that much if its replaced by stage or sth else tbh
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
or is there more to discuss
 <Gabumon> 
id be up for replacing the three questionable awards plus item with the four new ideas
 <turb> 
id say vote to remove/revamp it
 <Freakworld> 
per
 <turb> 
but remove would be fine
 <turb> 
especially since we have the new ideas
 <Gabumon> 
unless either someone comes up with a solid plan to revamp item, or an interesting fifth idea for a new award
 <shoutmon> 
i think removing is better than revamping since we already have good replacement ideas
 <Freakworld> 
probably
 <shoutmon> 
if someone has some amazing plan to revamp it, then we can reconsider
 <turb> 
yeah
 <shoutmon> 
but i dont think there's any need to specifically put effort into revamping
 <turb> 
in that case
 <turb> 
remove worst item? y/n/a
 <turb> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
y
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
y
 <Freakworld> 
y
 <Gabumon> 
y
 <SonicMario> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Toadbert> 
a
 <Nabber> 
a
 <Gamefreak75> 
y
 <SMB> 
Yes
 
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 <shoutmon> 
y
 <Tailmon> 
a
 
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 <Tailmon> 
i'm busy right now so i can't really comment much else
 <Packy> 
y
 <Nyrie> 
y
 <turb> 
brb
 <Freakworld> 
my back hurts
 <Gabumon> 
everyone is gone or busy
 <Lakituthequick> 
"brb" - with just 51 seconds left
 <Gabumon> 
*INTERMISSION*
 <Lakituthequick> 
neat
 <Freakworld> 
every time im using my laptop in bed its a really uncomfortable position
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
honestly we can just force the next vote in a minute
 <turb> 
its ok
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
on F4
 <turb> 
im here
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
which would be a vote to remove it
 <turb> 
yeah tbh
 <turb> 
it should be simple enough
 <Gabumon> 
intermission over
 <Freakworld> 
force nl
 <turb> 
i'd say this passes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Worst PM Sidekick (Goombario, Parakarry, Sushie, Flurrie, Ms. Mowz, Fleep, Dashell, Piccolo, Tiptron, Kersti)
 <Gabumon> 
axe
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
axe
 <shoutmon> 
y
 <mcd> 
ax
 <Gamefreak75> 
sword
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
results are the same every year
 <turb> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
29-second intermission
 <Nabber> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
neat
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Freakworld> 
kill it with fire
 <mcd> 
or add paint buckety whatever she's called
 <mcd> 
or he
 <mcd> 
idk
 <Freakworld> 
has
  
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 <turb> 
stop
 <turb> 
also uh
 <Nyrie> 
y
 <Gamefreak75> 
y
 <Packy> 
y
 <turb> 
i forgot waht i was going to say
 <Gamefreak75> 
rip
 <turb> 
i guess everyone is treating this as an official vote anyway lol
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
vote to remove pm sidekick
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
y
 <Gabumon> 
y
 <Gamefreak75> 
y
 <turb> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
everyone's voting already anyways
 <Packy> 
y
 <SonicMario> 
Color Splash won't be out by then anyway. WHo knows he could even be the only good part of the game for all we know :V
 <SonicMario> 
lol
 <Freakworld> 
im sorry its 4 am im getting kinda derailed
 <Freakworld> 
y
 <Nabber> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
meeting is over anyways now that this passes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
BUT
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
FINAL NOTE
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
LIKE I PLANNED
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Note on User/Shroom Awards, background work begins on those
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
that's starting like
 
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
now
 <Gamefreak75> 
all according to keikaku
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
User sub-committee is formed and we will start working on stuff in the background
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Shroom stuff has already been worked on and is still going at it
 <Freakworld> 
anton do you still need urgent help with user awards or is all cool
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we've got 10 people or so, I think we're good
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Yes, we have worked on over 50% of the awards we currently havae.
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
*have
 
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 <Freakworld> 
okay
  
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
decisions are all finalized in here anyways
 <Toadbert> 
how exactly are we gonna meet to work on user awards
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
probably a quicktopic
 <Toadbert> 
whats a quicktopic
 <Freakworld> 
will give my thoughts on stuff for the next meeting in advance since im not gonna be here
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'll set it up and shit a PM with it to everyone
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
I just want everybody to be aware that I am the new 'Shroom Awards host.
 <Toadbert> 
gerat
 <turb> 
vote to nightkill u4
 <Freakworld> 
good night
 <turb> 
night
 <turb> 
good meeting
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and ok fw that's actually really gr8 thx
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and yeah pidgey is the new shroom host
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
all things will flow through his wings now
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
meeting adjourned