[2016-04-02 01:51:41] -->| YOU (Lakituthequick) have joined #mwikiawards [2016-04-02 01:51:42] =-= Topic for #mwikiawards is ``"An Excellent Meeting" - Chef Excellence, 2015 || Awards are canceled, I have a hair appointment the day of the ceremony and I can't miss it, soz || 5th meeting hype || http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=36197.0 Links || Number of meetings survived: 4'' [2016-04-02 01:51:42] =-= Topic for #mwikiawards was set by Chiaki_Nanami!Pi@59-995-323-88-lr28.tbcn.telia.com on zondag 27 maart 2016 4:06:22 [2016-04-02 01:51:42] *ChanServ* [#mwikiawards] Chatroom rules: https://docs.google.com/View?id=drz9zgp_106rcrvqhhj [2016-04-02 01:51:42] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o Lakituthequick by ChanServ [2016-04-02 01:52:44] 12what is a meeting [2016-04-02 01:53:09] 9,1it's something where votes are being held and you tally them [2016-04-02 01:53:19] let's riggity roll [2016-04-02 01:54:28] 9,1meeting hype [2016-04-02 01:54:42] -->| Nabber (Nabber@xqzo-674-37-004-600.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) has joined #mwikiawards [2016-04-02 01:54:42] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o Nabber by ChanServ [2016-04-02 01:54:46] 9,1anton speaking of hair appointments [2016-04-02 01:54:49] 9,1i had a haircut today [2016-04-02 01:55:17] 4u did it [2016-04-02 01:55:21] 4did you get a bowl cut [2016-04-02 01:55:31] 9,1no, i didn't think ahead that far [2016-04-02 01:55:40] 4it's ok because they're gross [2016-04-02 01:56:03] i gotta run out for a bit [2016-04-02 01:56:08] may miss the beginning [2016-04-02 01:56:12] 9,1then again if i had done that i would have come to the insight that they're terrible [2016-04-02 01:56:36] waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaabuffet [2016-04-02 01:56:59] -->| SonicMario (Mibbit@173.154.up.hlv) has joined #mwikiawards [2016-04-02 01:57:08] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o SonicMario by ChanServ [2016-04-02 01:57:21] Heya [2016-04-02 01:57:54] Shall we dub this the April Fails Day meeting since I assume most of the meeting is still talking about the Fail Awards? :V [2016-04-02 01:57:55] hai [2016-04-02 01:58:03] 4meeting is canceled [2016-04-02 01:58:06] 4we're all playing miitomo [2016-04-02 01:58:11] lol [2016-04-02 01:58:14] 2 minutes to go and the memes have already started [2016-04-02 01:58:24] oh, sorry, miimes [2016-04-02 01:58:30] 9,1i'm not [2016-04-02 01:58:40] hail the dark lord of miimes [2016-04-02 01:58:46] 9,1i want to make dank political memes and dank international memes [2016-04-02 01:59:00] for oncce its a friday on awards and im not on mobile [2016-04-02 01:59:03] 9,1dank /int/ernational memes [2016-04-02 01:59:53] 9,11 minute remaining [2016-04-02 01:59:58] 9,110 seconds [2016-04-02 02:00:00] -->| Mariofan169 (Mibbit@798-861-844-90.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net) has joined #mwikiawards [2016-04-02 02:00:03] 9,1hype [2016-04-02 02:00:10] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o Mariofan169 by ChanServ [2016-04-02 02:00:24] 4hold on I just got a miitomo notification [2016-04-02 02:00:27] * Packy hyperventilates [2016-04-02 02:00:36] 4Kaysche and others gave me a heart! [2016-04-02 02:00:39] 4thx [2016-04-02 02:00:42] 12i want to play miitomo [2016-04-02 02:00:45] i turned off notifications [2016-04-02 02:00:46] ^ [2016-04-02 02:00:54] ok well not star's but ^ tailmon's [2016-04-02 02:00:56] -->| Kotori_Minami_ (Nyrie@tep-54-08-528-45.nc.res.rr.com) has joined #mwikiawards [2016-04-02 02:00:58] 4anyways here we are at this glorious AC meeting [2016-04-02 02:01:03] you can get it on bluestacks i think? [2016-04-02 02:01:09] but i won't derail right now [2016-04-02 02:01:14] I'm watching a movie atm so I can't really focus on the meeting but I'll try to pipe in once or twice [2016-04-02 02:01:15] 4where our agenda today is quick and simple [2016-04-02 02:01:20] 4*Cover a flub [2016-04-02 02:01:22] I don't even have a smartphone right now :V [2016-04-02 02:01:23] im back finally [2016-04-02 02:01:25] 4*Continue Fail Awards [2016-04-02 02:01:29] 4and that's it [2016-04-02 02:01:34] 4so with that let's get to the flub [2016-04-02 02:01:36] =-= Kotori_Minami_ is now known as Nyrie [2016-04-02 02:01:40] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o Nyrie by ChanServ [2016-04-02 02:01:45] 4which was that we totally just fucking skipped right over A29 and A30 [2016-04-02 02:01:51] 4and no one noticed until I checked like 4 days ago [2016-04-02 02:01:54] 4so lol [2016-04-02 02:01:56] oh [2016-04-02 02:01:56] 9,1lmao [2016-04-02 02:02:00] fire anton [2016-04-02 02:02:01] i thought that was intentional??? [2016-04-02 02:02:05] 4edo, 22, and I took the [2016-04-02 02:02:06] oops [2016-04-02 02:02:07] |<-- Kotori_Minami has left irc.darkmyst.org:6697 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [2016-04-02 02:02:08] 4FUCK PHONE CALL [2016-04-02 02:02:09] 4FUCK 22 [2016-04-02 02:02:12] 4GET THE MEETING [2016-04-02 02:02:19] <_2257> 7uhhh [2016-04-02 02:02:23] <_2257> 7ok then [2016-04-02 02:02:25] * Nyrie fucks phone call [2016-04-02 02:02:34] 9,1nyrie that's 100000% lewd, stop [2016-04-02 02:02:39] ok [2016-04-02 02:03:00] 12oh i was wondering about that [2016-04-02 02:03:09] 12i meant to ask why we didn't cover them [2016-04-02 02:03:10] <_2257> 7god sorry this notes document is huge [2016-04-02 02:03:17] 12but then i forgot because i'm not that bright [2016-04-02 02:03:31] 4IT'S OK 22 i'm back [2016-04-02 02:03:37] <_2257> 7oh [2016-04-02 02:03:39] <_2257> 7ok [2016-04-02 02:03:40] 4I thought I was getting called into work because I know it's a busy day [2016-04-02 02:03:40] 4so [2016-04-02 02:03:48] 4 20:01 Anton{Politoed} edo, 22, and I took the [2016-04-02 02:03:55] 4liberty to go ahead and just do those awards ourselves [2016-04-02 02:04:05] 4A29 Favorite Classic Game (N64/GBC and older) (Super Mario World, Super Mario 64, Paper Mario, Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario RPG, Donkey Kong 64, Super Mario Bros., Yoshi’s Island (SNES), Mario Kart 64., Yoshi’s Story, Mario Party 2, Super Smash Bros., Super Mario Bros. 2 (USA), Wario Land 3, Donkey Kong Country 2) [2016-04-02 02:04:09] 4absolutely no changes [2016-04-02 02:04:27] 4A30 Favorite Modern Game (GCN/GBA and newer) (Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Sunshine, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Mario Kart Wii, Super Mario 3D Land, Super Paper Mario, Luigi’s Mansion: Dark Moon, Super Mario 3D World, Mario & Luigi: Bowser’s Inside Story, Super Smash Bros 3DS/Wii U, Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker, Mario Kart [2016-04-02 02:04:29] 4 8, Wario Land 4, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze [2016-04-02 02:04:32] 4changes include: [2016-04-02 02:04:51] 4removing Treasure Tracker and DKC:TF because they scored horribly [2016-04-02 02:04:55] 4adding Super Mario Maker [2016-04-02 02:05:06] 4are there any questions, concerns, further ideas, etc. [2016-04-02 02:05:09] seems fair [2016-04-02 02:05:09] yeah that makes sense [2016-04-02 02:05:10] 9,1no [2016-04-02 02:05:12] All good [2016-04-02 02:05:13] 12i have a suggestion [2016-04-02 02:05:14] looks good [2016-04-02 02:05:26] 12add woolly world? [2016-04-02 02:05:26] 4ok [2016-04-02 02:05:32] 12it's actually available everywhere now [2016-04-02 02:05:44] 12and it's been received pretty well from what i've seen [2016-04-02 02:05:52] actually if i wait until the end of the meeting im gonna be too tired so im gonna blow off for a bit to brush my teeth [2016-04-02 02:05:53] i would suggest paper jam but it hasn't been around long at all and it wouldn't probably do as good as next year [2016-04-02 02:05:53] i think i can get behind that [2016-04-02 02:05:55] 4woolly world got literally 1 vote, but [2016-04-02 02:06:05] 9,1it's a great game, i love it [2016-04-02 02:06:08] 4it's also because it was released at an awkward time and in an awkward way [2016-04-02 02:06:08] but that was when it wasn't out in the us [2016-04-02 02:06:15] 9,1look, it almost beat yi in favourite yoshi game [2016-04-02 02:06:16] 12it wasn't available everywhere yet yeah [2016-04-02 02:06:37] yeah it scored 2nd for best yoshi game [2016-04-02 02:06:37] I'd say give Wooly World a chance if there's room. [2016-04-02 02:06:42] 12i don't even think it was released where it was until the middle of the polls lol [2016-04-02 02:06:52] im fine with the proposed changes + woolly world [2016-04-02 02:07:03] 12so i don't think the 1 write-in is really a strike against adding it in this case [2016-04-02 02:07:09] oh it started [2016-04-02 02:07:21] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o Gamefreak75 by ChanServ [2016-04-02 02:07:24] 12otherwise this is fine i would have brought up removing ct + tf and adding mario maker anyway [2016-04-02 02:07:36] 4ok so since there's no complaints against it I'm just gonna accept that as is [2016-04-02 02:07:44] 4and keep the changes we already made + woolly world [2016-04-02 02:07:47] 9,1neat [2016-04-02 02:07:48] back [2016-04-02 02:07:52] 12hooray! [2016-04-02 02:07:57] 9,1u did it smasher [2016-04-02 02:08:02] 12i did it [2016-04-02 02:08:07] 4" :) " [2016-04-02 02:08:18] i have no complint [2016-04-02 02:08:19] 4and with that Mario Awards are actually done enough [2016-04-02 02:08:27] yay us [2016-04-02 02:08:28] 12award me with a smart phone with miitomo on it [2016-04-02 02:08:30] ayy! [2016-04-02 02:08:30] :clap: [2016-04-02 02:08:31] tfw dkctf is removed [2016-04-02 02:08:33] shit taste [2016-04-02 02:08:38] 9,1i agree, gamefreak [2016-04-02 02:08:40] 4which means we can go on with Fail Awards, where we left off on F5 [2016-04-02 02:08:41] 12i know gf :( [2016-04-02 02:08:49] 4F5 Worst Level Concept (Ice Levels, Water Levels, Autoscrolling Levels, Ghost Houses, Rolling Ball Galaxies, Purple Coin Levels, SMS “Secret of _” Levels, SMS Red Coin Missions, Galaxy’s Surfing Levels) [2016-04-02 02:09:04] 4I have nothing in my notes regarding this [2016-04-02 02:09:05] 4turb any ideas [2016-04-02 02:09:16] uhhhhh [2016-04-02 02:09:19] ghost houses aren't that bad tbh [2016-04-02 02:09:21] can we add linearity?? [2016-04-02 02:09:25] idk i honestly don't keep up with mario [2016-04-02 02:09:29] is there anything that's been added recently [2016-04-02 02:09:32] 9,1uh [2016-04-02 02:09:34] linearity sounds like autoscrollers but [2016-04-02 02:09:39] 12it's better than most things on the list too bad voters have SHIT TASTE [2016-04-02 02:09:39] no i mean in like [2016-04-02 02:09:41] 3d games [2016-04-02 02:09:48] 12also i have nothing at the top of my head to do with this [2016-04-02 02:09:48] 4O. Daredevil Comet Levels – 2 O. Cosmic Mario Races – 1 O. Dark Levels – 1 O. Sky Levels – 1 [2016-04-02 02:09:52] 4those are the write-ins [2016-04-02 02:10:07] i support cosmic races [2016-04-02 02:10:17] dark levels could be interesting [2016-04-02 02:10:25] if it's specifically levels with limited vision [2016-04-02 02:10:30] like some of the yoshi ones [2016-04-02 02:10:36] 4every other nominee scored well enough to evade removal [2016-04-02 02:10:47] The only thing I can think of to possibly add is like some of the common levels you find on Mario Maker that you can get tired of really quick (Though they're sometimes helpful in 100 Mario Challenge I guess since you can't fail as long as you don't touch anything). Like Automatic levels. [2016-04-02 02:11:00] can we add paper toad hunting [2016-04-02 02:11:01] oh yeah automatic levels would be good to add [2016-04-02 02:11:05] does that count [2016-04-02 02:11:07] Stupidly difficult mario maker levels [2016-04-02 02:11:14] thats more of a game concept i think [2016-04-02 02:11:20] for worst game objective [2016-04-02 02:11:26] <_2257> 7i would vote for linearity [2016-04-02 02:11:27] fair [2016-04-02 02:11:28] @nyrie [2016-04-02 02:11:50] -->| NSY (Mibbit@fcktxag-748-2-116-714.w02-720.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #mwikiawards [2016-04-02 02:11:50] 9,1linearity is not a thing you can really complain about in a platformer [2016-04-02 02:11:58] yeah the problem is [2016-04-02 02:11:59] could we add automatic levels [2016-04-02 02:12:02] Hey [2016-04-02 02:12:04] there will inherently be a Point A and a Poin B [2016-04-02 02:12:09] its just hard to categorize because of tha tyeah [2016-04-02 02:12:13] 9,1hey nsy you are in France [2016-04-02 02:12:14] i dunno [2016-04-02 02:12:17] Yes [2016-04-02 02:12:23] 12i don't think linearity would work here [2016-04-02 02:12:24] im fine with automatic levels [2016-04-02 02:12:33] 4what are automatic levels [2016-04-02 02:12:33] there's no nintendo-created autolevels though [2016-04-02 02:12:34] would it be better for worst game mechanic?? [2016-04-02 02:12:35] i mean i get the idea is too much confining linearity, but i just don't think we could word it well [2016-04-02 02:12:38] i guess denote (Mario Maker) too? [2016-04-02 02:12:39] what about those restricted time levels [2016-04-02 02:12:40] I just over spelt for 10 mins [2016-04-02 02:12:42] autolevels are mario maker things [2016-04-02 02:12:42] 9,1levels in mario maker you win by doing nothing [2016-04-02 02:12:49] automatic levels are levels that progress entirely automatically [2016-04-02 02:12:50] like Automatic Levels (Mario Maker) [2016-04-02 02:12:53] like in the special worlds of 3d land [2016-04-02 02:12:57] like the super mario world ones that play music [2016-04-02 02:12:58] they give you like 10 seconds [2016-04-02 02:13:06] nintendo made a sort of auto level in mm [2016-04-02 02:13:07] 9,1uh [2016-04-02 02:13:08] adding on to my point did ghost houses get much votes last year [2016-04-02 02:13:10] god theres something i wanted to say about this award but i cant find it [2016-04-02 02:13:15] i'd say Restrictive Timer is a better thing for Game Mechanic [2016-04-02 02:13:16] the excite bike one it's just hold right and win [2016-04-02 02:13:17] they got second to last place [2016-04-02 02:13:26] 4Ghost Houses – 34 (5.45%) Ice Levels – 32 (5.13%) [2016-04-02 02:13:37] idk i feel like restrictive timer is part of the game [2016-04-02 02:13:39] but not a significantly lower amount of votes than the rest [2016-04-02 02:13:41] i mean level [2016-04-02 02:14:09] oh nvm i was getting this mixed up with favorite level theme [2016-04-02 02:14:12] so the thing i wanted to say is moot [2016-04-02 02:14:31] ok im back [2016-04-02 02:14:32] what have we brougth up so far [2016-04-02 02:14:35] automatic levels and linearity? [2016-04-02 02:14:38] 9,1automatic levels [2016-04-02 02:14:48] 9,1linearity is not something that is feasible, IIRC [2016-04-02 02:14:49] 4what exactly would linearity be within this context [2016-04-02 02:14:54] <_2257> 7sure its feasible [2016-04-02 02:14:57] <_2257> 7some levels are linear [2016-04-02 02:14:58] linearity in 3d levels [2016-04-02 02:14:59] <_2257> 7some arent [2016-04-02 02:15:01] Per Pi [2016-04-02 02:15:03] according to nabber [2016-04-02 02:15:12] i mean there are non-linear 2d levels to some extent [2016-04-02 02:15:17] 9,1so the entirety of smg and smg2 and 3d land and 3d world? [2016-04-02 02:15:23] Linearity isn't really a type of level [2016-04-02 02:15:32] 4I just need to know what linearity describes [2016-04-02 02:15:38] not all of smg and smg2 is linear [2016-04-02 02:15:40] they have open worlds [2016-04-02 02:15:41] <_2257> 7its not the entirety of smg or smg2 [2016-04-02 02:15:41] 4if I don't have a description I can't add it [2016-04-02 02:15:46] 3d land and 3d world are all linear though [2016-04-02 02:15:49] are 2d levels with secret exits linear???? [2016-04-02 02:15:55] yeah i'd say so [2016-04-02 02:15:58] i'd say linear is [2016-04-02 02:16:06] partially [2016-04-02 02:16:08] <_2257> 7not all 2d levels are necessarily linear [2016-04-02 02:16:09] pretty much, you can only go Point A -> Point B or Point C [2016-04-02 02:16:09] 3d levels that don't have an open world to explore [2016-04-02 02:16:14] levels where your goal amounts to "walk to the end" [2016-04-02 02:16:16] yeah [2016-04-02 02:16:17] i feel like adding linearity would just confuse people [2016-04-02 02:16:22] <_2257> 7ghost houses arent [2016-04-02 02:16:29] 9,1ghost houses are [2016-04-02 02:16:32] <_2257> 7not [2016-04-02 02:16:36] 9,1how [2016-04-02 02:16:42] which is 90% of mario levels even in 3d games so i dont think it would really be a good thing to put on [2016-04-02 02:16:48] 9,1is it because you walk to the left? [2016-04-02 02:16:50] <_2257> 7because there are multiple paths and [2016-04-02 02:16:59] 4can't the nomination then be specified as "Linearity in 3D Levels" [2016-04-02 02:17:05] it can be yeah [2016-04-02 02:17:08] i guess [2016-04-02 02:17:10] <_2257> 7you don't always get to the end just by walking in a straight line [2016-04-02 02:17:12] yeah [2016-04-02 02:17:16] if everyone's fine with it being restrictively defined that way [2016-04-02 02:17:21] honestly i don't really care about it either way [2016-04-02 02:17:48] i'd say linearity in 2d levels is logical in a way [2016-04-02 02:17:54] weras in 3d it makes less sence [2016-04-02 02:18:08] so "Linearity in 3D Levels" seems good to me [2016-04-02 02:18:09] tbh i'm not a fan of this nominee at all, it feels too widely encompassing and not entirely easily defined [2016-04-02 02:18:09] i guess looking at it again it's not like there aren't game-specific nominees [2016-04-02 02:18:13] unlike a lot of them [2016-04-02 02:18:16] the thing is [2016-04-02 02:18:16] 12i agree with perch [2016-04-02 02:18:18] linearity seems pretty subjective [2016-04-02 02:18:24] how disliked actually is linearity in the 3d games [2016-04-02 02:18:27] it is a lot wider-scope/subjective than the other nominees yeah [2016-04-02 02:18:27] ltq, pretty much every 2d level is linear [2016-04-02 02:18:31] like, what one person considers linear, another might not [2016-04-02 02:18:32] well uniju everyone hated 3d land [2016-04-02 02:18:34] like, nobody has ever complained about the bowser levels in mario 64 [2016-04-02 02:18:40] but everyone loved 3d world even though it was like that [2016-04-02 02:18:43] 9,1mathematically speaking, no level is linear [2016-04-02 02:18:46] yeah i agree with perch [2016-04-02 02:18:47] |<-- Mariofan169 has left irc.darkmyst.org:6697 (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [2016-04-02 02:18:47] see: 22 and Pi on ghost house [2016-04-02 02:18:51] I didn't hate 3D land [2016-04-02 02:18:51] and yeah the bowser levels are universally loved in spite of being the most linear levels in sm64 [2016-04-02 02:18:53] i think it would be better to change this to like [2016-04-02 02:18:58] <_2257> 7mathematically speaking?? [2016-04-02 02:19:01] 9,1yes [2016-04-02 02:19:04] 9,1jumping is required [2016-04-02 02:19:09] putting it on worst game direction if we're doing that i don't know if we are because im retarded and dont remember stuff [2016-04-02 02:19:12] 4we're not discussing mathematical lines [2016-04-02 02:19:19] <_2257> 7do you really think any voter is interested in the mathematical defintion of linearity [2016-04-02 02:19:28] <_2257> 7and if so, do you have a better word for it [2016-04-02 02:19:37] <_2257> 7because if not i don't know what youre saying [2016-04-02 02:19:45] like, make it be the general, much more often linear, level design of those games [2016-04-02 02:19:46] honestly yeah i don't think we should have this because [2016-04-02 02:19:50] rather than the abstract concept of linear levels [2016-04-02 02:19:52] maybe we should just [2016-04-02 02:19:53] i dislike linear levels when they're overdone [2016-04-02 02:19:54] uniju's idea is better [2016-04-02 02:19:57] scrap this and vote on autoscrolling levels [2016-04-02 02:20:01] but having them in games isn't bad [2016-04-02 02:20:02] and possibly add this to worst game concept [2016-04-02 02:20:10] yeah, this doesn't fit here imo [2016-04-02 02:20:12] per turn [2016-04-02 02:20:14] maybe it fits elsewhere [2016-04-02 02:20:15] but not here [2016-04-02 02:20:16] *turb [2016-04-02 02:20:17] 9,1turn [2016-04-02 02:20:17] 12per turb [2016-04-02 02:20:20] alright well if everyone's fine with that [2016-04-02 02:20:25] 4ok so is Automatic Levels the only nominee that's held up [2016-04-02 02:20:28] i think we should call a vote on autoscrollers [2016-04-02 02:20:29] yes [2016-04-02 02:20:29] 12it might fit on like game concept or something [2016-04-02 02:20:31] er [2016-04-02 02:20:33] automatic levels [2016-04-02 02:20:35] vote on automatic levels [2016-04-02 02:20:37] 12but it doesn't work here [2016-04-02 02:20:43] 12yeah vote on automatic levels [2016-04-02 02:20:57] 4Vote: Add 'Automatic Levels' to A5 Worst Level Concept? (y/n/a) [2016-04-02 02:21:00] Automatic Levels (Mario Maker) or something similar is how it should be formatted [2016-04-02 02:21:00] 9,1y [2016-04-02 02:21:01] y [2016-04-02 02:21:01] y [2016-04-02 02:21:01] y [2016-04-02 02:21:02] y [2016-04-02 02:21:02] y [2016-04-02 02:21:03] <_2257> 7y [2016-04-02 02:21:03] a [2016-04-02 02:21:04] 12y [2016-04-02 02:21:06] y [2016-04-02 02:21:08] 4y [2016-04-02 02:21:08] y [2016-04-02 02:21:10] y [2016-04-02 02:21:12] y [2016-04-02 02:21:14] i ruined it [2016-04-02 02:21:14] y [2016-04-02 02:21:14] y [2016-04-02 02:21:18] \y [2016-04-02 02:21:19] 4is the (Mario Maker) required [2016-04-02 02:21:22] 1216-0-1 [2016-04-02 02:21:24] 12thanks perch [2016-04-02 02:21:24] 4it's not a big deal it's just I didn't specify lol [2016-04-02 02:21:26] i think so [2016-04-02 02:21:38] to help voters who may be confused [2016-04-02 02:21:38] idk, there arent any default mario games that have them [2016-04-02 02:21:40] 4if that changes anyone's votes then ______ [2016-04-02 02:21:40] <_2257> 7people might think it means autoscrolling if you don't [2016-04-02 02:21:42] and everyone calls them automatic levels [2016-04-02 02:21:44] yeah [2016-04-02 02:21:44] 9,1no, turb [2016-04-02 02:21:45] but yeah that might help [2016-04-02 02:21:54] pi: hacking them into super mario world doesn't count [2016-04-02 02:21:56] yeah per 22 [2016-04-02 02:22:03] 9,1:( [2016-04-02 02:22:16] 4"Automatic Levels (Mario Maker)" has been added [2016-04-02 02:22:20] we did it [2016-04-02 02:22:24] 9,1perch why must you ruin everything :( [2016-04-02 02:22:29] 4anything else to discuss for F5? [2016-04-02 02:22:37] 12i think we're good [2016-04-02 02:22:40] <_2257> 7can i ask a question abuot a30 [2016-04-02 02:22:44] 4sure [2016-04-02 02:22:47] <_2257> 7ok [2016-04-02 02:22:49] f5 more like refresh [2016-04-02 02:23:07] because i am a cruel and whimsical god, pi [2016-04-02 02:23:12] <_2257> 7someone mentioned paper jam but said they didnt want to nominate it right now because it hasnt been out long enough or something [2016-04-02 02:23:25] <_2257> 7is paper jam actually popular enough that it might get votes? [2016-04-02 02:23:33] 9,1it's an okay game [2016-04-02 02:23:36] but that feels like cheating [2016-04-02 02:23:38] <_2257> 7because i don't really think we should keep it off for only the release date [2016-04-02 02:23:43] no [2016-04-02 02:23:44] i don't know enough [2016-04-02 02:23:50] paper jam really isnt that popular [2016-04-02 02:23:54] <_2257> 7iirc its out in multiple territories by now [2016-04-02 02:23:55] everything else is a part of a game [2016-04-02 02:23:57] so its not worth it imo [2016-04-02 02:24:01] |<-- SonicMario has left irc.darkmyst.org:6697 (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [2016-04-02 02:24:11] <_2257> 7and voting hasnt e ven started yet [2016-04-02 02:24:11] we never included dream team there [2016-04-02 02:24:17] -->| Mariofan169 (Mibbit@798-861-844-90.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net) has joined #mwikiawards [2016-04-02 02:24:27] either [2016-04-02 02:24:33] 12i think paper jam would be eligible but i don't know enough about how popular it is [2016-04-02 02:24:45] <_2257> 7im not talking about dreatm team im talkng about paper jam [2016-04-02 02:25:00] i'd say skip out on it but that's just based on how i've seen people respond to it [2016-04-02 02:25:10] <_2257> 7ok [2016-04-02 02:25:12] ^ [2016-04-02 02:25:13] 9,1it's the most okay game Nintendo ever published [2016-04-02 02:25:13] if theres more than like 2 people who have played the game in here and they think its good then they should [2016-04-02 02:25:15] say something [2016-04-02 02:25:27] i liked it a lot.... [2016-04-02 02:25:28] [20:22.59] _2257 someone mentioned paper jam but said they didnt want to nominate it right now because it hasnt been out long enough or something [2016-04-02 02:25:30] but.... [2016-04-02 02:25:34] yeah that was me [2016-04-02 02:25:35] 9,1I like the game but it's not something you go WOW IT IS THE BEST THING EVER about [2016-04-02 02:25:55] but this is worst level concept, not worst game concept [2016-04-02 02:25:56] 4ok so if it gets write-ins we can always add it next year [2016-04-02 02:25:59] i don't think it's anyone's favourite game [2016-04-02 02:26:00] <_2257> 7so basically it was mediocre and nobody actually wants it [2016-04-02 02:26:03] <_2257> 7is what im getting [2016-04-02 02:26:05] 9,1yes [2016-04-02 02:26:06] i'm just worried that it's not going to do well this year and then proceed to get the boot because it was barely released [2016-04-02 02:26:07] yeah probably [2016-04-02 02:26:08] <_2257> 7ok [2016-04-02 02:26:09] and per anton [2016-04-02 02:26:14] add pokken [2016-04-02 02:26:20] that's what you're getting from pi [2016-04-02 02:26:32] 9,1I'm the one speaking up [2016-04-02 02:26:33] nyrie i don't think this is being treated as an april fools meeting [2016-04-02 02:26:37] 12yeah based on this it's probably best to wait to see how it does as a write in [2016-04-02 02:26:42] 9,1if you feel like I'm misrepresenting it, speak up [2016-04-02 02:26:46] 4continuing with fail awards then [2016-04-02 02:26:47] so we're adding paper jam as worst level concept? [2016-04-02 02:26:53] Most critics say Paper Jam is good but nothing special [2016-04-02 02:26:53] yes mcd [2016-04-02 02:26:54] 12yes [2016-04-02 02:27:01] ah good [2016-04-02 02:27:02] 4F6 Worst Spin-off (Mario Kart Arcade GP, Mario Kart Arcade GP 2, Dr. Mario 64, Mario Pinball Land, Mario Kart Super Circuit, Mario Party 9, Mario Super Sluggers, Mario Party Advance, Mario Party 10) [2016-04-02 02:27:04] mcd i don't think this is being treated as an april fools meeting [2016-04-02 02:27:08] 4nothing in my notes about this [2016-04-02 02:27:17] hm [2016-04-02 02:27:18] IMario Kart Arcade GP – 39 (6.4%) Mario Kart: Super Circuit – 36 (5.91%) Mario Super Sluggers – 34 (5.58%) Mario Kart Arcade GP 2 – 19 (3.12%) O. Paper Mario: Sticker Star – 8 O. Hotel Mario – 7 O. Mario Party 8 – 3 [2016-04-02 02:27:18] brb [2016-04-02 02:27:22] sports games count so i guess add like [2016-04-02 02:27:23] ok [2016-04-02 02:27:24] ultra smash [2016-04-02 02:27:30] how do you define a spin-off? [2016-04-02 02:27:32] 12ultra smash would be good [2016-04-02 02:27:36] definitely add ultra smash [2016-04-02 02:27:37] could probably remove gp2 [2016-04-02 02:27:38] I would suggest removing/merging gp2 [2016-04-02 02:27:39] add ultra smash [2016-04-02 02:27:41] like, why is super circuit and mario party in there but not sticker star? [2016-04-02 02:27:42] does sticker star even count [2016-04-02 02:27:42] 9,1a game that is not super mario [2016-04-02 02:27:45] i'd say add sticker star [2016-04-02 02:27:48] ultra smash kseems good [2016-04-02 02:27:52] 9,1Sticker Star counts [2016-04-02 02:27:54] 12i think sticker star counts [2016-04-02 02:27:56] 9,1Paper Mario is a spin-off [2016-04-02 02:27:57] a lot of new animosity towards it since colour splash [2016-04-02 02:28:00] yeah then let's add sticker star [2016-04-02 02:28:04] i never understood why super sluggers is so unpopoular since it has like the largest roster [2016-04-02 02:28:04] (oh no my pings are tingling) [2016-04-02 02:28:09] add sticker star and ultra smash then i guess [2016-04-02 02:28:19] yeah sticker star and ultra smash are good nominees [2016-04-02 02:28:24] 4add (sticker star, ultra smash), remove (gp2) [2016-04-02 02:28:25] 4anything else? [2016-04-02 02:28:34] can we merge gp2 with gp1 [2016-04-02 02:28:38] should we merge the gps together yeah [2016-04-02 02:28:40] and just say [2016-04-02 02:28:41] 9,1They are separate games [2016-04-02 02:28:47] "mario kart arcade gp games" [2016-04-02 02:28:51] 9,1ok [2016-04-02 02:28:52] are they really that different [2016-04-02 02:28:53] 9,1yes [2016-04-02 02:28:55] I've played both arcade games [2016-04-02 02:28:56] 9,1idk [2016-04-02 02:29:00] -->| SonicMario (Mibbit@173.6.uzn.hir) has joined #mwikiawards [2016-04-02 02:29:01] does anyone actually know the difference [2016-04-02 02:29:01] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o SonicMario by ChanServ [2016-04-02 02:29:06] no not really lol [2016-04-02 02:29:07] i've played arcade gp 2 [2016-04-02 02:29:10] they are very similar [2016-04-02 02:29:12] i thought they were the same game [2016-04-02 02:29:17] is anyone going to be like "gp 2 is a masterpiece and doesn't deserve to be here but gp 1 does" [2016-04-02 02:29:22] or it might've been 1 [2016-04-02 02:29:24] 9,1brb, getting water [2016-04-02 02:29:26] either way they look very similar [2016-04-02 02:29:27] gp 2 has a couple of extra tracks [2016-04-02 02:29:36] 4I'll we'll vote for a merge then [2016-04-02 02:29:38] 4any other things? [2016-04-02 02:29:44] 4ok we'll* [2016-04-02 02:29:45] i got nothing [2016-04-02 02:29:48] nope [2016-04-02 02:29:49] i'll will agree with this [2016-04-02 02:29:53] 12i think that's about it [2016-04-02 02:30:15] ye [2016-04-02 02:30:21] 4Vote: Add 'Paper Mario: Sticker Star' to F6 Worst Spin-Off? (y/n/a) [2016-04-02 02:30:25] 12y [2016-04-02 02:30:26] y [2016-04-02 02:30:26] y [2016-04-02 02:30:27] y [2016-04-02 02:30:28] y [2016-04-02 02:30:29] y [2016-04-02 02:30:30] y [2016-04-02 02:30:31] y [2016-04-02 02:30:34] y [2016-04-02 02:30:35] y [2016-04-02 02:30:36] y [2016-04-02 02:30:37] y [2016-04-02 02:30:41] y [2016-04-02 02:30:42] 4amazing [2016-04-02 02:30:43] y not [2016-04-02 02:30:47] y [2016-04-02 02:30:50] <_2257> 7y [2016-04-02 02:30:54] y [2016-04-02 02:30:55] wait what [2016-04-02 02:30:58] why is sticker star a spin off [2016-04-02 02:31:07] or is it just like [2016-04-02 02:31:10] paper mario is a spin-off series [2016-04-02 02:31:11] because pm-series [2016-04-02 02:31:12] "new age paper mario" [2016-04-02 02:31:15] its not a part of the main platforming series [2016-04-02 02:31:25] tbh i feel like [2016-04-02 02:31:31] in all but the most specific cases [2016-04-02 02:31:36] ok i get it [2016-04-02 02:31:40] i assumed this was like [2016-04-02 02:31:40] 1216-0-0 [2016-04-02 02:31:42] if it counted as a writein the year before, it should be eligible for addition [2016-04-02 02:31:43] 9,1y [2016-04-02 02:31:45] entire series' or genres [2016-04-02 02:31:47] brb getting food [2016-04-02 02:31:48] anyway y [2016-04-02 02:31:57] 1218-0-0 [2016-04-02 02:32:18] 4Vote: Add 'Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash' to F6 Worst Spin-Off? (y/n/a) [2016-04-02 02:32:19] <_2257> 7idk turb, how rigorous is the process for deciding which write-ins "count", really [2016-04-02 02:32:20] y [2016-04-02 02:32:21] 12if it's not a platformer than i think it counts really [2016-04-02 02:32:21] 9,1y [2016-04-02 02:32:23] y [2016-04-02 02:32:23] 12y [2016-04-02 02:32:24] y [2016-04-02 02:32:24] <_2257> 7a [2016-04-02 02:32:24] y [2016-04-02 02:32:25] y [2016-04-02 02:32:27] y [2016-04-02 02:32:29] a [2016-04-02 02:32:33] 128-0-2 [2016-04-02 02:32:35] y [2016-04-02 02:32:40] i honestly forgot it even existed [2016-04-02 02:32:42] 129-0-2 [2016-04-02 02:32:46] there might have been a discussion for sticker star on this award last year 22 [2016-04-02 02:32:48] i don't remember [2016-04-02 02:32:49] a, haven't played [2016-04-02 02:32:50] y [2016-04-02 02:32:53] its graphics are amazing though [2016-04-02 02:32:54] i think many people would like to forget too [2016-04-02 02:32:54] y [2016-04-02 02:32:54] y [2016-04-02 02:32:56] i remember we shat ourselves over it some years [2016-04-02 02:32:58] or at least i did [2016-04-02 02:33:00] shame it doesnt help it enough [2016-04-02 02:33:01] a [2016-04-02 02:33:08] @writein qualification in general [2016-04-02 02:33:13] <_2257> 7scary [2016-04-02 02:33:15] 1212-0-4 [2016-04-02 02:33:40] 4Vote: Merge 'Mario Kart Arcade GP' and 'Mario Kart Arcade GP 2' into 'Mario Kart Arcade GP games'? (y/n/a) [2016-04-02 02:33:43] y [2016-04-02 02:33:43] y [2016-04-02 02:33:44] y [2016-04-02 02:33:44] 9,1y [2016-04-02 02:33:45] y [2016-04-02 02:33:45] y [2016-04-02 02:33:45] y [2016-04-02 02:33:47] a [2016-04-02 02:33:47] y [2016-04-02 02:33:52] y [2016-04-02 02:33:53] y [2016-04-02 02:33:54] a [2016-04-02 02:33:59] yay [2016-04-02 02:34:01] 12a [2016-04-02 02:34:10] y [2016-04-02 02:34:15] 12110-3 [2016-04-02 02:34:19] >110 [2016-04-02 02:34:20] nice [2016-04-02 02:34:22] the new 62 [2016-04-02 02:34:24] 12it had to happen eventually [2016-04-02 02:34:35] <_2257> 7a [2016-04-02 02:34:35] 12i had to typo the vote tally [2016-04-02 02:34:36] i look forward to a vote of 110-62 [2016-04-02 02:34:39] 12it is a tradition [2016-04-02 02:34:45] 1211-0-4* [2016-04-02 02:34:45] y [2016-04-02 02:34:49] 1212-0-4 [2016-04-02 02:34:51] 4all of these pass [2016-04-02 02:34:52] 4we did it [2016-04-02 02:34:55] 4anything else for F6? [2016-04-02 02:34:58] i think i did it [2016-04-02 02:35:01] nothing here [2016-04-02 02:35:08] 12we're good [2016-04-02 02:35:10] not from me [2016-04-02 02:35:14] nope [2016-04-02 02:35:44] y [2016-04-02 02:35:51] oh wait [2016-04-02 02:35:55] 9,1lol [2016-04-02 02:36:12] 9,1no complaints here [2016-04-02 02:36:13] 4next up then is [2016-04-02 02:36:29] [01:32] Lakituthequick its graphics are amazing though [2016-04-02 02:36:31] https://twitter.com/Doctor_Cupcakes/status/658965638015250432 [2016-04-02 02:36:38] 1213-0-4 [2016-04-02 02:36:39] 4F7 Worst Enemy (Lakitu, Big Bertha, Wizzerd, Bandit, Rocky Wrench, Blooper, Cursya, Goomba, Hammer Bros, Parabones, Fangs, Grinders (Yoshi’s Island), Fuzzy) [2016-04-02 02:36:48] 12i'm counting it anyway because i can [2016-04-02 02:36:51] this is gettign replaced right [2016-04-02 02:36:53] or we wanted to replace it [2016-04-02 02:36:54] 4only note I had on this was that the results are usually weak, but [2016-04-02 02:37:01] 4it was a replace option [2016-04-02 02:37:09] 4Most Underwhelming Boss is the other [2016-04-02 02:37:17] i'll check the results [2016-04-02 02:37:19] mcd: heh [2016-04-02 02:37:20] 4we have 3 removed so far, with 4 new ideas [2016-04-02 02:37:25] hopefully lakitu gets a landslide win every year [2016-04-02 02:37:46] I would rather see this one stay [2016-04-02 02:37:56] slendertoad [2016-04-02 02:37:59] but the results are painfully the same every time [2016-04-02 02:38:02] only 38 votes [2016-04-02 02:38:04] disappointing [2016-04-02 02:38:11] and yeah i remember cursya skullfucking this award every year [2016-04-02 02:38:20] it only got 5 more votes than second place last year i guess [2016-04-02 02:38:27] i dont really care whether this one stays or goes [2016-04-02 02:38:43] 9,1Are we removing this on the sole premise that it's predictable? [2016-04-02 02:38:49] 12i'm ok with this one sticking around, myself [2016-04-02 02:38:52] 4we've removed like 7 awards already for that exact reason [2016-04-02 02:39:06] 4Most Underwhelming Boss is far more predictable, though [2016-04-02 02:39:14] 4so I'd prefer that one go over this unless there's another reason [2016-04-02 02:39:15] ive never really found this award very interesting [2016-04-02 02:39:36] 12if one of them have to be removed then i would much rather cut boss [2016-04-02 02:39:39] 12and keep this one [2016-04-02 02:39:44] yeah [2016-04-02 02:39:46] yeah per that [2016-04-02 02:39:50] 9,1question [2016-04-02 02:39:54] has anyone other than cloud n candy ever one [2016-04-02 02:39:58] *ever won [2016-04-02 02:40:00] not afaik [2016-04-02 02:40:05] per smashie [2016-04-02 02:40:06] 9,1Are there any new entries we should add? [2016-04-02 02:40:20] maybe somethign from paper jam? [2016-04-02 02:40:22] 4I mean right now we're talking about whether we're keeping the award at all but _______ [2016-04-02 02:40:24] idk i never played i [2016-04-02 02:40:26] 4yeah that's the next topic [2016-04-02 02:40:34] Most write ins were two [2016-04-02 02:40:44] Not enough [2016-04-02 02:41:18] <_2257> 7this award was my idea [2016-04-02 02:41:22] <_2257> 7like 5 years ago [2016-04-02 02:41:25] <_2257> 7im so disappointed [2016-04-02 02:41:31] 4the only thing I'm gonna do without permission is just add "/"Ukiki" to grinder [2016-04-02 02:41:35] she had a good life [2016-04-02 02:41:36] 4so I'm gonna do that now [2016-04-02 02:41:48] we can still save her [2016-04-02 02:41:51] We could add Magikoopas :V (j/k Anton. Don't fire me, consider it an april fools joke) [2016-04-02 02:41:55] <_2257> 7or i guess i mean most underwhelming boss [2016-04-02 02:42:02] oh [2016-04-02 02:42:03] rip [2016-04-02 02:42:13] * Anton{Politoed} 4beats you up [2016-04-02 02:42:26] 12your award sucks [2016-04-02 02:42:38] <_2257> 7you suck [2016-04-02 02:42:42] whatr [2016-04-02 02:42:44] ukikoi [2016-04-02 02:42:49] like the monkey? [2016-04-02 02:42:56] 4yes [2016-04-02 02:43:11] is that really an enemy [2016-04-02 02:43:12] Ukikis,[1] also known as Grinders[2] or simply monkeys,[3] [2016-04-02 02:43:14] the ukikis from sm64 and the grinders from yi are canonically the same enemy [2016-04-02 02:43:16] 4it's already on the award [2016-04-02 02:43:20] <_2257> 7because theres a monkey enemy called grinder, and also a saw enemy called grinder [2016-04-02 02:43:21] 4I'm just adding its other name [2016-04-02 02:43:22] sources on that page tho [2016-04-02 02:43:32] are they the ones from yi? [2016-04-02 02:43:37] 4it's just a thing I'm announcing that I'm doing [2016-04-02 02:43:50] 4are there no other new nominees for this? [2016-04-02 02:44:12] 12what were the write ins [2016-04-02 02:44:22] 4O. Boo – 2 O. Mini Goomba – 2 O. Chain Chomp – 1 [2016-04-02 02:44:25] 4then like 5000 more with just 1 [2016-04-02 02:44:31] anything from paper jam that was bad? [2016-04-02 02:44:33] 12not really then [2016-04-02 02:44:37] if you add boo ill ritually sacrifice someone here [2016-04-02 02:44:39] add kamek/paper kamek [2016-04-02 02:44:48] 9,1that's [2016-04-02 02:44:49] 9,1a [2016-04-02 02:44:51] 9,1boss [2016-04-02 02:45:03] i would say not add anything because off the top of my head there were no new really shit enemies in paper jam [2016-04-02 02:45:09] otherwise i would have heard about them by now [2016-04-02 02:45:12] there weren't [2016-04-02 02:45:16] if this award stys and they get writeins they can go on next year [2016-04-02 02:45:17] it was easy [2016-04-02 02:45:19] 9,1wow I managed to confuse enter for space bar good job myself [2016-04-02 02:45:22] broozers if you were shoe farming [2016-04-02 02:45:24] but thats it [2016-04-02 02:45:27] 4yeah if nothing really twisted anyone's panties enough to be memorable then there's nothing worth adding [2016-04-02 02:45:38] yeah [2016-04-02 02:45:43] yeah next [2016-04-02 02:45:49] 4this award is spared [2016-04-02 02:45:57] |<-- Nozomi_Toujou has left irc.darkmyst.org:6697 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [2016-04-02 02:46:01] * Gamefreak75 puts away the guillotine [2016-04-02 02:46:22] 4F8 Worst Mario Kart Course (Choco Mountain, Sky Garden, Shy Guy Beach, Rainbow Road (SNES), Yoshi Falls, Grumble Volcano, Sherbet Land (N64), Koopa Beach 2, Banshee Boardwalk, Maple Treeway, Maka Wuhu, Rosalina’s Ice World, Rainbow Road (Wii), Dolphin Shoals, Bone-Dry Dunes) [2016-04-02 02:46:28] Sherbet Land (N64) – 28 (5.21%) Yoshi Falls – 25 (4.83%) Rosalina's Ice World – 24 (4.63%) Maple Treeway – 18 (3.47%) Koopa Beach 2 – 16 (3.09%) Dolphin Shoals – 14 (2.7%) O. Rainbow Road (N64) – 7 O. Baby Park – 5 O. Cheese Land – 3 O. Rainbow Road (GBA) – 3 [2016-04-02 02:46:47] skip? [2016-04-02 02:46:52] sherbet land was the one with the snowmen right [2016-04-02 02:46:58] unless there was a write in that did good [2016-04-02 02:47:00] looks pretty skippable [2016-04-02 02:47:01] it was the one with the penguins [2016-04-02 02:47:01] |<-- Nyrie has left irc.darkmyst.org:6697 (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 45.0.1/20160315153207]) [2016-04-02 02:47:05] o [2016-04-02 02:47:06] frappe snowland was the snowmen [2016-04-02 02:47:09] 9,1wait [2016-04-02 02:47:10] -->| Nyrie (Nyrie@tep-54-08-528-45.nc.res.rr.com) has joined #mwikiawards [2016-04-02 02:47:15] 9,1oh [2016-04-02 02:47:25] [8:46:34 PM] Sasha: tell the awards meeting my computer fucked and i can't get back in for a bit, if at all [2016-04-02 02:47:26] 9,1why isn't the gamecube version of Sherbet Land in [2016-04-02 02:47:32] that's star btw [2016-04-02 02:47:33] 9,1it's the worst thing [2016-04-02 02:47:35] i kept wanting to ask "HURR DIDNT MARIO KART 8 JUST COME OUT" but i remembered that was like 2 years ago [2016-04-02 02:47:36] 9,1I hate it [2016-04-02 02:47:41] I liked that course [2016-04-02 02:47:43] uh, i guess this award is fine then [2016-04-02 02:47:47] i like gamecube sherbert land but maybe that's just nostalgia [2016-04-02 02:47:47] skip [2016-04-02 02:47:52] most people like that course [2016-04-02 02:47:55] 9,1i don't [2016-04-02 02:47:56] i thought sherbet gamecube was boring too [2016-04-02 02:47:56] unless we're desperate to add n64 rr for some reason but _ [2016-04-02 02:47:57] 12the better question is why did dolphin shoals come in last [2016-04-02 02:47:59] i dont like it [2016-04-02 02:47:59] thx Nyrie [2016-04-02 02:48:00] also gcn sherbet is alright [2016-04-02 02:48:02] oh good god [2016-04-02 02:48:02] 12shitty course [2016-04-02 02:48:04] its happening again [2016-04-02 02:48:07] 22 [2016-04-02 02:48:07] help [2016-04-02 02:48:09] 12also i'm going to say skip [2016-04-02 02:48:09] 9,1it's literally my least favourite from double dash [2016-04-02 02:48:11] toadbert [2016-04-02 02:48:12] <_2257> 7oh tb [2016-04-02 02:48:21] <_2257> 7i'm not on the same server as you this time i guess [2016-04-02 02:48:22] because voters don't have any sense [2016-04-02 02:48:32] <_2257> 7i'm not seeing any unusual activity [2016-04-02 02:48:42] 4well if people want to skip it let's do that [2016-04-02 02:48:46] yeah let's do that [2016-04-02 02:48:55] 4so next is actually the award we were gonna cut and I completely forgot so [2016-04-02 02:49:10] 4F9 Worst Final Smash (Puff Up (Jigglypuff), Konga Beat (Donkey Kong), Palutena’s Army (Pit), Mario Finale (Mario), Cook Kirby (Kirby), Beast Ganon (Ganondorf), Power Suit Samus (Zero Suit Samus), Peach Blossom (Peach), Dream Home (Villager), Power Star (Rosalina), Negative Zone (Luigi), Octopus (Mr. Game & Watch), Super Sonic (Sonic), Super Pac-Man (Pac-Man), [2016-04-02 02:49:12] 4Dedede Burst (King Dedede)) [2016-04-02 02:49:21] 4we're getting rid of this in our non-mario purge [2016-04-02 02:49:23] it's a pretty bad award [2016-04-02 02:49:23] i agree that this one can go [2016-04-02 02:49:26] 4does anyone object [2016-04-02 02:49:27] i don't want it anymore [2016-04-02 02:49:34] get rid of it [2016-04-02 02:49:38] i dont even use final smashes anymore [2016-04-02 02:49:43] 9,1remove [2016-04-02 02:49:47] destroy [2016-04-02 02:49:55] 9,1delet [2016-04-02 02:50:00] exodia, obliterate [2016-04-02 02:50:02] 9,1delet this [2016-04-02 02:50:04] 12you may kill it [2016-04-02 02:50:06] it's a streaming pile of goat shit [2016-04-02 02:50:07] delet [2016-04-02 02:50:07] kill [2016-04-02 02:50:09] rip [2016-04-02 02:50:14] eliminate [2016-04-02 02:50:15] * Chiaki_Nanami 9,1nukes F9 [2016-04-02 02:50:16] exterminate [2016-04-02 02:50:16] agree [2016-04-02 02:50:17] rip in peace [2016-04-02 02:50:20] i don't hate it, but if you're getting rid of the rest of the non-mario, why stop here [2016-04-02 02:50:23] PI WOAH [2016-04-02 02:50:24] 9,1packy nuke F9 [2016-04-02 02:50:24] what he said [2016-04-02 02:50:32] ok :') [2016-04-02 02:50:33] 4removing this now frees up enough space for the 4 new ideas we have [2016-04-02 02:50:34] 12i don't really hate it either [2016-04-02 02:50:36] 4so that's gr8 [2016-04-02 02:50:37] * Packy prepares the nukes [2016-04-02 02:50:41] 12but it's not the best award [2016-04-02 02:50:43] * Packy nukes F9 [2016-04-02 02:50:51] 4next then is [2016-04-02 02:50:54] 12nuke norway [2016-04-02 02:50:57] it is a bit of a stretch admittedly [2016-04-02 02:50:59] 9,1do not nuke Norway [2016-04-02 02:50:59] OK O3O [2016-04-02 02:51:01] * Gamefreak75 jumps in front of the nuke [2016-04-02 02:51:04] ok :'( [2016-04-02 02:51:09] * Packy nukes Gamefreak75 [2016-04-02 02:51:10] can we chill out with the nukes [2016-04-02 02:51:11] 12you killed gamefreak [2016-04-02 02:51:12] 4F10 Worst Game Mechanic (previously Worst Concept) (Dimension Flip (Super Paper Mario), Star Bits (Super Mario Galaxy & 2), Camera (3D Mario games), Vibes (Super Princess Peach), Joystick Twirling (Mario Party 1-3), Limited Inventory (Paper Mario and Paper Mario TTYD), Stickers (PMSS), Button Mashing (Mario Party), Gyroscope Controls (Nintendo 3DS), [2016-04-02 02:51:14] 4Vehicles (Mario Party 9-10), Life Counter) [2016-04-02 02:51:26] 9,1Joystick twirling is only in MP1 [2016-04-02 02:51:28] life counter is marked as unsure and i forgot why [2016-04-02 02:51:29] i believe the timer came up [2016-04-02 02:51:35] i think we were iffy on it [2016-04-02 02:51:35] 4yeah what turb said [2016-04-02 02:51:36] timer and linearity were things [2016-04-02 02:51:44] also no it's in all 3 to some extent [2016-04-02 02:51:46] 4life counter was an idea edo had [2016-04-02 02:51:46] nothing I can think of [2016-04-02 02:51:46] im fairly sure [2016-04-02 02:51:48] 9,1no [2016-04-02 02:51:49] 4 22 what was it [2016-04-02 02:51:50] 9,1it's only in 1 [2016-04-02 02:51:51] it's just not as present as in 1 [2016-04-02 02:51:54] really [2016-04-02 02:51:54] i have a question [2016-04-02 02:51:55] pi i think theres some fly guy minigame in mp2 [2016-04-02 02:52:01] <_2257> 722 what was what? [2016-04-02 02:52:01] or toy [2016-04-02 02:52:02] 9,1it was entirely replaced with button mashing in 2 and 3 [2016-04-02 02:52:04] 9,1no, that was in 1 [2016-04-02 02:52:08] if we say timer, life counter, and linearity are all shit [2016-04-02 02:52:09] 4the concern with Life Counter [2016-04-02 02:52:11] i think it had something to do with the fact that the life counter is outdated [2016-04-02 02:52:12] ...what's left? [2016-04-02 02:52:13] 9,1everything with joystick twirling is in 1 [2016-04-02 02:52:18] 9,12 and 3 do not have any of that [2016-04-02 02:52:24] and i meant the restricted timer [2016-04-02 02:52:25] <_2257> 7uhhhh i dont think gabumon had a concern with it [2016-04-02 02:52:27] not the regular timer [2016-04-02 02:52:29] 9,1it's just button mashing in 2 and 3 [2016-04-02 02:52:29] <_2257> 7he suggested it [2016-04-02 02:52:34] the levels that give you only 10 seconds [2016-04-02 02:52:42] and you have to collect clocks along the way [2016-04-02 02:52:43] Button mashing is still painful [2016-04-02 02:52:51] 4oh yeah that was it [2016-04-02 02:52:59] <_2257> 7because it was "a way of forcing people to put more quarters in the machine that became outdated when home consoles came out and made video games not pay=per-play" [2016-04-02 02:53:00] oh dear [2016-04-02 02:53:01] its been 2 minutes [2016-04-02 02:53:01] no ones said anything [2016-04-02 02:53:01] you know what that means [2016-04-02 02:53:01] 9,1it's a factual error to mention how a mechanic is in a game where it is not [2016-04-02 02:53:02] 4I should have different blues [2016-04-02 02:53:03] <_2257> 7or something like that [2016-04-02 02:53:11] "(previously Worst Concept)" -- this was on the list last year too [2016-04-02 02:53:13] 4anyways as for Joystick Twirling [2016-04-02 02:53:18] rip TB, now in the vortex [2016-04-02 02:53:27] also wait you mean life counter as in life /system/, okay [2016-04-02 02:53:29] 4I spent like 17 years last year trying to figure out which games it was in and no one answered [2016-04-02 02:53:32] i thoughtit meant like [2016-04-02 02:53:35] HP [2016-04-02 02:53:39] 9,1oh [2016-04-02 02:53:41] 4if there's an answer this year just message me or something and it's a simple fix, nothing to debate about [2016-04-02 02:53:47] as in "the worst game mechanic is that mario can take X amounts of hits before he dies" [2016-04-02 02:53:55] 9,1i do have an answer, so [2016-04-02 02:54:00] hello [2016-04-02 02:54:01] im the last man on earth again [2016-04-02 02:54:09] 9,1toadbert connect to a good server [2016-04-02 02:54:21] 9,1there's a canadian one — connect to that [2016-04-02 02:54:28] 12welcome to hell tb [2016-04-02 02:54:39] well [2016-04-02 02:54:39] |<-- SonicMario has left irc.darkmyst.org:6697 (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [2016-04-02 02:54:43] im fine with life counter i think [2016-04-02 02:54:50] <_2257> 7i feel like we debate joystick twirlding every year [2016-04-02 02:55:00] -->| SonicMario (Mibbit@173.6.uzn.hir) has joined #mwikiawards [2016-04-02 02:55:01] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o SonicMario by ChanServ [2016-04-02 02:55:02] <_2257> 7for the past 3 years [2016-04-02 02:55:07] <_2257> 7but pidgey is really right [2016-04-02 02:55:08] it has definitely been a discussion before [2016-04-02 02:55:11] <_2257> 7its only in mp1 [2016-04-02 02:55:13] 4ok [2016-04-02 02:55:17] 4it's fixed then [2016-04-02 02:55:28] <_2257> 7the twirly flyguy minigame was in mp1 [2016-04-02 02:55:40] 12next year we will debate to add in back in for no reason [2016-04-02 02:55:45] <_2257> 7a different flyguy minigame was in 2 and it had a different control scheme [2016-04-02 02:55:48] 12i'm ok with life counter [2016-04-02 02:55:52] 9,1same here [2016-04-02 02:55:56] i'm iffy on life counter [2016-04-02 02:55:56] <_2257> 7i guess maybe thats why people misremember? [2016-04-02 02:56:12] 4well let's get to voting on the 3 new ideas then [2016-04-02 02:56:17] <_2257> 7life counter is specifically about [2016-04-02 02:56:19] <_2257> 7extra lives [2016-04-02 02:56:23] yes [2016-04-02 02:56:26] and i'm still iffy on that [2016-04-02 02:56:34] i would have said outright no if it was hp system [2016-04-02 02:56:37] but [2016-04-02 02:56:37] <_2257> 7well im just saying if we add it that should probably be clear [2016-04-02 02:56:43] <_2257> 7so people dont think it means hp [2016-04-02 02:56:48] oh, yes, that definitely needs to made more obvious [2016-04-02 02:56:49] "Extra Life System" [2016-04-02 02:56:51] <_2257> 7"life counter" could be either [2016-04-02 02:56:52] *to be [2016-04-02 02:57:01] considering i thought it was hp and all :V [2016-04-02 02:57:01] 4good idea turb [2016-04-02 02:57:23] 12extra life system would be better wording yeah [2016-04-02 02:57:25] o god [2016-04-02 02:57:44] toadbert [2016-04-02 02:57:44] im back baby [2016-04-02 02:57:47] u suck [2016-04-02 02:57:48] desn't the entire series live (heh) on such systems since the first game [2016-04-02 02:57:52] yes [2016-04-02 02:57:56] but its outdated [2016-04-02 02:58:04] 4Vote: Add 'Extra Life system' to F10 Worst Game Mechanic? (y/n/a) [2016-04-02 02:58:06] <_2257> 7the point isnt how many games its in really [2016-04-02 02:58:08] y [2016-04-02 02:58:09] a [2016-04-02 02:58:09] y [2016-04-02 02:58:10] 9,1y [2016-04-02 02:58:11] <_2257> 7y [2016-04-02 02:58:11] a [2016-04-02 02:58:11] a [2016-04-02 02:58:12] 4y [2016-04-02 02:58:13] y [2016-04-02 02:58:16] a [2016-04-02 02:58:17] 9,1(I like it but I know others don't) [2016-04-02 02:58:21] n [2016-04-02 02:58:38] 12i don't i think it's pretty ointless at this point [2016-04-02 02:58:39] 12y [2016-04-02 02:58:42] 12pointless [2016-04-02 02:58:51] 12it might be ointless too [2016-04-02 02:59:01] 127-1-4 [2016-04-02 02:59:03] is there any oint to it [2016-04-02 02:59:04] 9,1ointment? [2016-04-02 02:59:05] its only there for traditional reasons [2016-04-02 02:59:08] if not then yes it's ointless [2016-04-02 02:59:09] y [2016-04-02 02:59:13] 128-0-0 [2016-04-02 02:59:15] 12... [2016-04-02 02:59:19] 12i'm stupid excuse me [2016-04-02 02:59:21] 128-1-4 [2016-04-02 02:59:24] 9,1no [2016-04-02 02:59:26] 9,1packy is half a vote [2016-04-02 02:59:29] change to a [2016-04-02 02:59:31] :'( [2016-04-02 02:59:34] 12oh i [2016-04-02 02:59:38] I'm eh on it [2016-04-02 02:59:42] 12forgot he wasn't ac this year [2016-04-02 02:59:52] a [2016-04-02 02:59:52] anton wouldn't accept my love earlier~~~ [2016-04-02 02:59:56] (assuming you can read this) [2016-04-02 02:59:58] >smasher trying to bury my dissent [2016-04-02 03:00:00] * Tailmon 12pushes packy away into the trash can [2016-04-02 03:00:01] i see how it is [2016-04-02 03:00:12] 126.5-1-6 [2016-04-02 03:00:24] 4either way it passes [2016-04-02 03:00:31] 4what were the other ideas [2016-04-02 03:00:32] * Packy becomes oscar the grouch [2016-04-02 03:00:34] 4timer and linearity? [2016-04-02 03:00:47] whats linearity [2016-04-02 03:00:52] no map overworld? [2016-04-02 03:00:57] go from a to b [2016-04-02 03:01:00] no exploring [2016-04-02 03:01:05] 4Linearity in 3D Levels, specifically [2016-04-02 03:01:09] oh [2016-04-02 03:01:10] yea that too [2016-04-02 03:01:11] 9,1there is exploring [2016-04-02 03:01:11] no alternate paths [2016-04-02 03:01:18] no openness [2016-04-02 03:01:20] 9,1what is an alternate path [2016-04-02 03:01:28] 9,1no, what is an alternate path [2016-04-02 03:01:31] 9,1define this [2016-04-02 03:01:41] go from a to c via either b or d? [2016-04-02 03:01:45] <_2257> 7when there are multiple paths to the destination [2016-04-02 03:01:52] places that lead to secret exits [2016-04-02 03:02:08] or another route to beating a level [2016-04-02 03:02:11] 9,1is a warp pipe enough to disqualify a level from being linear? [2016-04-02 03:02:12] -->| Gamefreak75_ (NewYokuba@tje-051-024-560-02.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #mwikiawards [2016-04-02 03:02:18] not really [2016-04-02 03:02:23] 9,1but [2016-04-02 03:02:25] 9,1you have multiple paths [2016-04-02 03:02:30] but if it's significant enough [2016-04-02 03:02:31] 9,1take the warp pipe, don't take the warp pipe [2016-04-02 03:02:35] |<-- Gamefreak75 has left irc.darkmyst.org:6697 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [2016-04-02 03:02:36] then it's less linear [2016-04-02 03:02:41] <_2257> 7well i would have said yes tbh [2016-04-02 03:02:46] but what makes it significant enough [2016-04-02 03:02:47] personally i think that if this is going to devolve into a clusterfuck of no one being able to find a definition we just shouldn't add it [2016-04-02 03:02:50] <_2257> 7but its not an absolute binary distinction [2016-04-02 03:02:51] ^ [2016-04-02 03:02:58] |<-- SonicMario has left irc.darkmyst.org:6697 (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [2016-04-02 03:03:01] to clarify incase people thought i said linearity should be on worst game mechanic, i was actually talking about putting it on worst game direction since the general sentiment that people have when they talk about their dissatisfaction with [2016-04-02 03:03:02] this idea feels too subjective to properly place [2016-04-02 03:03:03] =-= Gamefreak75_ is now known as Gamefreak75 [2016-04-02 03:03:13] yeah i agree with uniju [2016-04-02 03:03:13] is worst game direction an award [2016-04-02 03:03:17] yes [2016-04-02 03:03:18] linearity seems to be more about the differences between sm64/sms/smg and sm3dl/w [2016-04-02 03:03:18] i know we have worst series direction [2016-04-02 03:03:23] fuck [2016-04-02 03:03:23] not yet [2016-04-02 03:03:24] same thing [2016-04-02 03:03:34] oh good point actually [2016-04-02 03:03:44] framing it as those differences would work well on series direction [2016-04-02 03:03:56] 4so no vote then [2016-04-02 03:03:59] <_2257> 7also, alternate paths arent actually necessary for it to be non-linear [2016-04-02 03:04:00] correct [2016-04-02 03:04:03] it's not going on here [2016-04-02 03:04:11] 4rather than spending the next hour defining this one option, let's discuss this on the forums [2016-04-02 03:04:19] 4so what's the timer thing about then [2016-04-02 03:04:27] the restricted timer [2016-04-02 03:04:32] overly low timers [2016-04-02 03:04:32] -->| SonicMario (Mibbit@173.6.uzn.hir) has joined #mwikiawards [2016-04-02 03:04:32] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o SonicMario by ChanServ [2016-04-02 03:04:33] where are we right now [2016-04-02 03:04:40] 4is it literally just gonna be "Timers" [2016-04-02 03:04:45] like in nsmblu where you only habe 99 seconds [2016-04-02 03:04:49] 4F10 Worst Game Mechanic [2016-04-02 03:04:49] like the levels in 3D Land where you are given 10 seconds [2016-04-02 03:04:52] and need to collect clocks [2016-04-02 03:04:53] it was used well in nslu and some levels in 3D world [2016-04-02 03:04:54] ok [2016-04-02 03:04:55] and those [2016-04-02 03:05:00] i would oppose "timers" in general [2016-04-02 03:05:06] 9,1i would also oppose that [2016-04-02 03:05:20] Restrictively Low Timers? [2016-04-02 03:05:27] timer has never been a hiddance [2016-04-02 03:05:38] 12restrictively low timers could be ok [2016-04-02 03:05:44] 12timers in general wouldn't [2016-04-02 03:06:02] 9,1only in favour of it if it's the levels in 3d world [2016-04-02 03:06:07] <_2257> 7well, timers are a game mechanic [2016-04-02 03:06:12] timers are hardly ever an issue to me personally [2016-04-02 03:06:16] 9,1the levels in NSLU were /designed/ with having 100 seconds in question [2016-04-02 03:06:17] <_2257> 7i don't see why they would be ineligible [2016-04-02 03:06:18] nintendos pretty generous with that [2016-04-02 03:06:22] |<-- Mariofan169 has left irc.darkmyst.org:6697 (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [2016-04-02 03:06:23] the only level I remember the timer was a pain in was that boss rush from 3d world [2016-04-02 03:06:27] 9,1and an NSLU second is longer than a regular Mario second anyway [2016-04-02 03:06:34] <_2257> 7low timers seem more like a level concept than a game mechanic tbh [2016-04-02 03:06:53] <_2257> 7since theyre uh, not mechanically part of the game as a whole [2016-04-02 03:07:00] 4didn't we decide to not put it in level concept, though [2016-04-02 03:07:06] 4because people thought it would work better here [2016-04-02 03:07:08] <_2257> 7i thought that was linearity [2016-04-02 03:07:12] 4it was both [2016-04-02 03:07:21] <_2257> 7really? [2016-04-02 03:07:22] 4if it wasn't then no one corrected me [2016-04-02 03:07:24] yeah it was both [2016-04-02 03:07:29] i do vaguely remember something about timers being in here yeah [2016-04-02 03:07:31] i felt timers fit better as a mechanic [2016-04-02 03:07:38] <_2257> 7ok but low timers are literally not a game mechanic [2016-04-02 03:07:44] <_2257> 7timers in general are [2016-04-02 03:07:51] 4I agree with 22 on this [2016-04-02 03:07:54] <_2257> 7but low timers are an aspect of level design [2016-04-02 03:07:58] yeah low timers are a level mechanic [2016-04-02 03:08:09] 4yeah, level [2016-04-02 03:08:19] 12ok that makes sense [2016-04-02 03:08:21] 4this is annoying [2016-04-02 03:08:48] 4whoever wants to add this as an option to wherever, please state what it is and where [2016-04-02 03:09:01] 4because my default is no decision [2016-04-02 03:09:10] <_2257> 7low timers should be added to worst level concept [2016-04-02 03:09:28] i agree with that [2016-04-02 03:09:29] <_2257> 7pplain "timers" could be added to worst game mechanic i guess [2016-04-02 03:09:32] per [2016-04-02 03:09:34] have low timers really been a thing in new games [2016-04-02 03:09:36] <_2257> 7but im not sure anyone actually wants the latter [2016-04-02 03:09:43] if they have been id support that [2016-04-02 03:09:46] |<-- SonicMario has left irc.darkmyst.org:6697 (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [2016-04-02 03:09:47] yeah in 3d land and 3d world theres occasionally levels like that i think [2016-04-02 03:09:52] <_2257> 7yeah [2016-04-02 03:10:01] <_2257> 7i can vouch for their existence [2016-04-02 03:10:22] <_2257> 7you get a really low timer and have to collect clocks to increase the time remaining [2016-04-02 03:10:24] <_2257> 7or you die [2016-04-02 03:10:36] yep [2016-04-02 03:10:40] oh [2016-04-02 03:10:41] 4Vote: Add 'Restrictively Low Timers' to F5 Worst Level Concept? (y/n/a) [2016-04-02 03:10:42] 12i can confirm those exist [2016-04-02 03:10:44] super mario world had a level like that [2016-04-02 03:10:45] y [2016-04-02 03:10:45] y [2016-04-02 03:10:46] 12and are pretty shit [2016-04-02 03:10:49] <_2257> 7y [2016-04-02 03:10:51] a [2016-04-02 03:10:52] 12y [2016-04-02 03:10:53] y [2016-04-02 03:10:54] yeah nintendo wants you to go really fast so you don't realize how little effort they put into it [2016-04-02 03:10:54] y [2016-04-02 03:10:55] a [2016-04-02 03:10:56] a [2016-04-02 03:10:57] y [2016-04-02 03:11:05] Y [2016-04-02 03:11:10] 126.5-0-3 [2016-04-02 03:11:11] <_2257> 7its not actually like funky, tb [2016-04-02 03:11:11] 9,1y [2016-04-02 03:11:20] <_2257> 7these timers are on the order of 10 seconds [2016-04-02 03:11:20] 127.5-0-3 [2016-04-02 03:11:22] they aren't that bad [2016-04-02 03:11:23] the worst part is they're the exactly the same levels as ones you've already played [2016-04-02 03:11:31] they could've made those in a time trial mode [2016-04-02 03:11:32] <_2257> 7and you literally cant win without getting clocks [2016-04-02 03:11:43] <_2257> 7funky gave you like ... idk, at least 200 seconds [2016-04-02 03:11:50] -->| SonicMario (Mibbit@107.50.lhg.ll) has joined #mwikiawards [2016-04-02 03:11:50] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o SonicMario by ChanServ [2016-04-02 03:11:52] <_2257> 7you didn't need to use the green apples [2016-04-02 03:11:58] 4so that passes [2016-04-02 03:12:01] 4anything else for F10? [2016-04-02 03:12:14] 12i think that's it [2016-04-02 03:12:16] i dont particularly want timers in general on here [2016-04-02 03:12:23] 12i don't either [2016-04-02 03:12:24] oh so its like [2016-04-02 03:12:29] mario meets warioware [2016-04-02 03:12:51] except warioware is fun and whimsical [2016-04-02 03:13:02] i assume its like those levels where you have to keep getting stars so you can walk on spikes except implemented in the timer [2016-04-02 03:13:03] 12i don't really think they're disliked or problematic enough [2016-04-02 03:13:08] oh [2016-04-02 03:13:11] thats a good point [2016-04-02 03:13:14] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz4TjIMShYM [2016-04-02 03:13:18] 4F11 Biggest Missed Opportunity (Super Mario Bros. 3 e-Reader Cards, Sony Partnership Failure, Transphobia (Vivian, Birdo), Underproducing Amiibos, Super Mario Spikers cancellation, Mario Takes America cancellation, Donkey Kong Coconut Crackers cancellation, Failure of the Mario Artist series, Mario & Wario not being localized, [2016-04-02 03:13:20] 4Wrecking Crew '98 not being localized, Paper Mario: Sticker Star early build, Donkey Kong Racing cancellation, Super Mario's Wacky Worlds cancellation) [2016-04-02 03:13:20] have continuous star grab levelsbeen added [2016-04-02 03:13:21] here's a good example [2016-04-02 03:13:30] 4only concern I had in the notes was rewording the transphobia one [2016-04-02 03:13:31] weren' there only like [2016-04-02 03:13:33] 2 of those ever [2016-04-02 03:13:37] maybe [2016-04-02 03:13:40] i dunno [2016-04-02 03:13:51] 4Donkey Kong Coconut Crackers cancellation – 8 (1.07%) Mario Takes America cancellation – 6 (0.8%) O. Waluigi not having his own game – 2 [2016-04-02 03:13:53] yeah i wanted to bring that up too [2016-04-02 03:13:54] i recall one in yoshi's island original [2016-04-02 03:13:54] can we add "killing the paper mario series" [2016-04-02 03:13:55] it's worded awkwardly [2016-04-02 03:13:56] maybe a second [2016-04-02 03:14:02] or "not continuing rpg paper mario" [2016-04-02 03:14:07] that's series directon, nabber [2016-04-02 03:14:16] eh i guess [2016-04-02 03:14:28] feels like like a direction and more like two separate series [2016-04-02 03:14:40] maybe no mobile mario game? [2016-04-02 03:14:44] 4miitomo [2016-04-02 03:14:50] 4it's a start [2016-04-02 03:15:05] 4can't really call it a miss opportunity when it's something they're working towards [2016-04-02 03:15:09] 4missed* [2016-04-02 03:15:11] ^ [2016-04-02 03:15:14] 12^ [2016-04-02 03:15:15] They'll probably have one eventually. They're testing the waters with Miitomo right now. [2016-04-02 03:15:15] well we don't know if they're making a mario game [2016-04-02 03:15:17] didnt we just decide on a new wording for it a meeting or two ago [2016-04-02 03:15:23] the transphobia one [2016-04-02 03:15:24] 12i think we did [2016-04-02 03:15:25] we don't know but we also [2016-04-02 03:15:31] don't have confirmation they aren't [2016-04-02 03:15:33] 12i...don't remember what it was, tho [2016-04-02 03:15:38] i don't remember what it was either [2016-04-02 03:15:44] 4 21:33Anton{Politoed}"Properly addressing trans issues" sounds21:33Anton{Politoed}concise 21:34Stargazing"trans support" is a good way to word it tbh 21:34Gabumonid say something like "representing" instead of "addressing" [2016-04-02 03:15:58] 4that was the most solid answer we got to [2016-04-02 03:16:10] i was always wondering how to word it re: the title though [2016-04-02 03:16:27] 4yeah [2016-04-02 03:16:33] if "properly representing trans issues" would be better with a "not" at the front [2016-04-02 03:17:04] 4I'd say that's too wordy but [2016-04-02 03:17:09] 4every other nominee is a paragraph as well [2016-04-02 03:17:16] yeah [2016-04-02 03:17:19] 12yeah [2016-04-02 03:17:30] -->| Gabumon (chatzilla@hmln-747-728-375-889.797.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de) has joined #mwikiawards [2016-04-02 03:17:30] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o Gabumon by ChanServ [2016-04-02 03:17:34] 12in this case i think "Not properly representing trans issues" would be fine [2016-04-02 03:17:58] "Improperly representating" could work too i guess? [2016-04-02 03:18:13] Misrepresentation? [2016-04-02 03:18:20] okay nyrie i think the title is long enough [2016-04-02 03:18:23] you could represent anything improperly though [2016-04-02 03:18:25] mk's suggestion sounds fine [2016-04-02 03:18:28] <_2257> 7does it really need a not [2016-04-02 03:18:43] per 22 [2016-04-02 03:18:50] 4Biggest Missed Opportunity: Misrepresenting Trans Issues [2016-04-02 03:18:53] proper representation is the missed opportunity [2016-04-02 03:18:54] 4as a sentence how does that sound [2016-04-02 03:18:57] <_2257> 7when we have things like [2016-04-02 03:19:04] <_2257> 7"paper mario sticker star early build" [2016-04-02 03:19:12] <_2257> 7where there's not even an action implied [2016-04-02 03:19:31] <_2257> 7and people just have to intuit that we mean the missed opportunity was not making the actual game more like that [2016-04-02 03:19:37] yeah [2016-04-02 03:19:41] 12fair enough [2016-04-02 03:19:51] i'd say either that or properly representing is fine anton [2016-04-02 03:19:53] idc either way [2016-04-02 03:20:04] im pretty sure that with either one people can understand what it's trying to convey [2016-04-02 03:20:12] wait is the killing paper mario idea going to be put in the "worst series direction" award [2016-04-02 03:20:13] 4Properly Representing Trans Issues [2016-04-02 03:20:21] 4if that doesn't sound fine we'll get write-ins calling us shitlords [2016-04-02 03:20:30] 4so let's just take it and see what happens [2016-04-02 03:20:34] yeah go with that [2016-04-02 03:20:46] that sounds good [2016-04-02 03:20:48] Nyrie: Probably not worded like that but probably [2016-04-02 03:20:49] i mean we didn't get shitlords accusing us of just saying "Transphobia" [2016-04-02 03:20:50] i eagerly await this years bloopers [2016-04-02 03:20:52] so hopefuly this will work out [2016-04-02 03:20:54] <_2257> 7if people are stupid enough to think we meant that the missed opportunity was the opportunity to be /worse/ about trans issues [2016-04-02 03:21:00] <_2257> 7its their own damn fault for being stupid [2016-04-02 03:21:03] exactly [2016-04-02 03:21:33] 4ok so that's reworded now [2016-04-02 03:21:43] when will nintendo accept the fact that motley bossblob is agender [2016-04-02 03:21:53] anton are you using chrome [2016-04-02 03:21:55] <_2257> 7lol [2016-04-02 03:22:07] 4no, why [2016-04-02 03:22:11] you can paste without style with ctrl+shift+v in that [2016-04-02 03:22:19] aren't toads agender as well? [2016-04-02 03:22:21] dunno if other browsers have tthat too [2016-04-02 03:22:29] toads are agender [2016-04-02 03:22:36] 3are they [2016-04-02 03:22:38] 4I mean it took 2 seconds to fix [2016-04-02 03:22:40] not really [2016-04-02 03:22:44] 3wasnt that an exact wording thing [2016-04-02 03:22:45] <_2257> 7wasnt "toads are agender" a mistranslation [2016-04-02 03:22:57] motley bossblob was born as a male [2016-04-02 03:23:00] Nintendo did confirm it I think [2016-04-02 03:23:01] i know, just a tip [2016-04-02 03:23:03] but chose to identify as agender [2016-04-02 03:23:09] 3I remember making a post about that but I dont remember what it was [2016-04-02 03:23:10] <_2257> 7for one thing, i don't know that japanese even has words to distinguish between agender and sexless [2016-04-02 03:23:24] <_2257> 7i've never heard such words anyway [2016-04-02 03:23:47] 4what is this topic leading towards [2016-04-02 03:23:49] 4another nomination? [2016-04-02 03:24:03] <_2257> 7no not really [2016-04-02 03:24:13] the gender of motey bossblob apparently [2016-04-02 03:24:20] 4ok, are there any other suggestions for this then [2016-04-02 03:24:22] <_2257> 7no that was a joke [2016-04-02 03:24:29] no [2016-04-02 03:24:31] <_2257> 7we're not nominating motley bossblob's gender [2016-04-02 03:24:31] 9,1no [2016-04-02 03:25:00] 12no [2016-04-02 03:25:33] worst quest? [2016-04-02 03:25:37] 4ok so with that the only change was rewording [2016-04-02 03:25:40] 4I'm ok with that [2016-04-02 03:25:44] if no one has anything else for this year [2016-04-02 03:25:47] h* [2016-04-02 03:25:52] 9,1post the list [2016-04-02 03:26:12] 4thanks pidgey I needed the command to do it otherwise it wouldn't have happened [2016-04-02 03:26:20] 4F12Worst Quest (previously Worst Sidequest) (Boshi Race (SMRPG), Yoshi Eggs (SMA), Blue Coins (SMS), Rabbits (SM64DS), Pit of 100 Trials (SPM), Piccolo (SPM), Duel of 100 (SPM), World 9 (NSMBW), Letters (PM1), One Million Coins (NSMB2), Green Stars (SMG2), Completing every level with every character (SM3DW), Star/Moon Coin Challenges (Mario Golf: World Tour)) [2016-04-02 03:26:23] 9,1sorry [2016-04-02 03:26:28] 4edo you're here just in time, this is a thing you brought up [2016-04-02 03:26:35] 3yes [2016-04-02 03:26:53] can we add general whitebob or whatever his name is? [2016-04-02 03:26:57] does that count as a worst quest? [2016-04-02 03:26:57] 3http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=36196.msg1827020#msg1827020 [2016-04-02 03:27:00] i agree with changing it to worst game objective [2016-04-02 03:27:18] quest feels like a word that belongs in zelda, not mario [2016-04-02 03:27:22] 3also adding the General White chase would be a possibility, yes [2016-04-02 03:27:23] worst game objective is better [2016-04-02 03:27:23] i agree with game objective [2016-04-02 03:27:30] I can agree with that [2016-04-02 03:27:31] i'd be down for general white [2016-04-02 03:27:32] whadda fucker [2016-04-02 03:27:36] also i already agreed to name chane [2016-04-02 03:27:37] i agree with game objective andgeneral white [2016-04-02 03:27:39] and don't limit it to sidequests [2016-04-02 03:27:41] general white was the goddamn worst [2016-04-02 03:27:45] i personally dont get the confusion with "quest" [2016-04-02 03:27:45] 4let's decide on the name change first [2016-04-02 03:27:45] per all [2016-04-02 03:27:49] considering most of these come from rpg games [2016-04-02 03:27:50] 3which I guess also solves the dilemma with side objective versus game objective [2016-04-02 03:27:58] 3since the general white chase is mandatory [2016-04-02 03:28:00] 3so [2016-04-02 03:28:03] 3game objective it is [2016-04-02 03:28:19] quest is what i'd knee-jerk call all of those things [2016-04-02 03:28:33] 4is there anyone that opposes this to the point of calling a vote on it [2016-04-02 03:28:42] <_2257> 7well its like [2016-04-02 03:28:44] but it just comes down to semantics [2016-04-02 03:28:45] 4if so we can open discussion further [2016-04-02 03:28:51] <_2257> 7we dont want it to be restricted to rpg quests [2016-04-02 03:29:09] game objective is more encompassing so i'd prefer that [2016-04-02 03:29:12] well still [2016-04-02 03:29:16] 3If I had to go for a knee-jerk name, id call the award "worst tedium" [2016-04-02 03:29:17] id call anything out of an rpg a quest [2016-04-02 03:29:18] 12per turb [2016-04-02 03:29:24] <_2257> 7even if all of the nominees are actually rpg quests, we want something more open for the sake of write-ins [2016-04-02 03:29:39] ^ [2016-04-02 03:29:41] ^^ [2016-04-02 03:29:50] V [2016-04-02 03:30:15] im pretty sure i called my journey to complete my melee trophy collection a quest many times lol [2016-04-02 03:30:17] so i guess its just me [2016-04-02 03:30:37] did you actually do that without any humour or irony in it [2016-04-02 03:30:38] 3[03:27] Toadbert considering most of these come from rpg games [2016-04-02 03:30:45] 3I dont see it [2016-04-02 03:30:52] game objective sounds cleaner [2016-04-02 03:30:56] 3theres a good deal of nominees on there not from rpgs [2016-04-02 03:31:13] yeah actually i dont see it either [2016-04-02 03:31:17] 12if anything i think [2016-04-02 03:31:20] that spm concentration in the middle messed me up [2016-04-02 03:31:23] 12the minority is from rpgs [2016-04-02 03:31:30] game objective sounds a lot less fancy [2016-04-02 03:31:33] my brain isnt all here this friday [2016-04-02 03:31:41] <_2257> 7we dont want it to sound fancy [2016-04-02 03:31:45] did you actually do that without any humour or irony in it [2016-04-02 03:31:49] 3Blue Coins (SMS), Rabbits (SM64DS), World 9 (NSMBW), One Million Coins (NSMB2), Green Stars (SMG2), Completing every level with every character (SM3DW), Star/Moon Coin Challenges (Mario Golf: World Tour) [2016-04-02 03:31:51] <_2257> 7we want it to clearly explain what we mean [2016-04-02 03:31:52] well i mean i probably said to be funny but [2016-04-02 03:31:54] that's my point 22 [2016-04-02 03:32:02] im sure i referred to it by quest many times out of habit [2016-04-02 03:32:05] 3these are all non-rpg objectives [2016-04-02 03:32:07] I don't want fancy names [2016-04-02 03:32:20] <_2257> 7er ok [2016-04-02 03:32:21] yeah i take back the point about rpgs [2016-04-02 03:32:33] 12yoshi eggs too [2016-04-02 03:32:47] 12that's 8 out of 13 sooo [2016-04-02 03:33:00] 9,1Fibbonachi! [2016-04-02 03:33:01] 9,1yay! [2016-04-02 03:33:10] 3I couldnt recall what SMA is, and I didnt want to tab out of the meeting to look it up on the wiki, so I just left it out for convenience's sake [2016-04-02 03:33:11] you dont have to tally this smasher im already beaten to death [2016-04-02 03:33:16] 4so everyone is ok with Worst Game Objective? [2016-04-02 03:33:17] super mario advance [2016-04-02 03:33:18] im already dead [2016-04-02 03:33:20] i am [2016-04-02 03:33:23] i am [2016-04-02 03:33:25] <_2257> 7y [2016-04-02 03:33:28] y [2016-04-02 03:33:30] yeah [2016-04-02 03:33:31] y [2016-04-02 03:33:32] y [2016-04-02 03:33:33] yeah [2016-04-02 03:33:33] 12y [2016-04-02 03:33:33] y [2016-04-02 03:33:38] shore [2016-04-02 03:33:40] y [2016-04-02 03:33:44] 9,1y [2016-04-02 03:33:53] 12a [2016-04-02 03:33:57] y [2016-04-02 03:34:03] 9,1~ [2016-04-02 03:34:09] 3y [2016-04-02 03:34:12] 12"yay~" [2016-04-02 03:34:13] y [2016-04-02 03:34:31] yes [2016-04-02 03:34:35] 4with the name change passing, are there any changes to be made to the nominees? [2016-04-02 03:34:44] 12general white [2016-04-02 03:34:45] <_2257> 7add general white? [2016-04-02 03:34:49] yeah [2016-04-02 03:34:50] changes to existing nominees shouldn't be an issue [2016-04-02 03:34:50] 4Letters (PM1) – 13 (1.82%) Yoshi Eggs (SMA) – 13 (1.82%) O. World Crown (SM3DW) – 2 [2016-04-02 03:34:51] 3add the General White chase [2016-04-02 03:34:53] but add general white [2016-04-02 03:35:08] 3(PM:TTYD) [2016-04-02 03:35:54] 4Vote: Add 'General White chase (PM:TTYD)' to F12 Worst Game Objective? (y/n/a) [2016-04-02 03:35:56] y [2016-04-02 03:35:56] y [2016-04-02 03:35:57] y [2016-04-02 03:35:58] 12y [2016-04-02 03:35:59] y [2016-04-02 03:35:59] y [2016-04-02 03:35:59] 3y [2016-04-02 03:36:00] y [2016-04-02 03:36:00] <_2257> 7y [2016-04-02 03:36:00] y [2016-04-02 03:36:02] good god yes [2016-04-02 03:36:03] y [2016-04-02 03:36:06] y [2016-04-02 03:36:08] everyone hates general white [2016-04-02 03:36:11] y [2016-04-02 03:36:13] y in every way possible pls [2016-04-02 03:36:14] 9,1y [2016-04-02 03:36:19] y [2016-04-02 03:36:39] 1216.5-0-0 [2016-04-02 03:36:40] 4gr8 [2016-04-02 03:36:45] 12i almost put in "165" [2016-04-02 03:36:48] 3well I wouldnt say I hate it, its just something dumb I grit my teeth through [2016-04-02 03:36:48] 4any other suggestions? [2016-04-02 03:37:17] 3idk why they put it in, and then added an optional second round as if they thought this would catch on somehow [2016-04-02 03:37:44] there's a second round? [2016-04-02 03:37:50] one of the troubles [2016-04-02 03:37:52] is that from the help / problems thing? [2016-04-02 03:37:54] oh troubles [2016-04-02 03:37:55] 3I think theres a trouble in the trouble center [2016-04-02 03:37:57] 4if that's it then we can move onto the next [2016-04-02 03:37:58] there is [2016-04-02 03:38:00] oh yeah i think i saw that and was like "nope" [2016-04-02 03:38:01] 3where you get to do it again [2016-04-02 03:38:02] you have to deliver something from goldbob to general white [2016-04-02 03:38:02] I forgot what it was called [2016-04-02 03:38:03] 12well it's certainly troublesome [2016-04-02 03:38:06] but white runs around the world [2016-04-02 03:38:14] 4F13 Most Underwhelming Boss (Tubba Blubba, Monstar, Bowser (Super Mario Sunshine), Bowser (SMG2), Cloud N. Candy, King Kaliente (2nd fight), Super Dimentio, Bowser (PM:SS)) [2016-04-02 03:38:26] 4there was talk to remove this award as well, we just don't have a idea made up and ready to replace it [2016-04-02 03:38:28] cut it, cloud n candy will win again [2016-04-02 03:38:32] 4the results are almost always the same [2016-04-02 03:38:33] every timem [2016-04-02 03:38:37] he wil never stop winning [2016-04-02 03:38:38] 3why is monstar on that list [2016-04-02 03:38:39] ever [2016-04-02 03:38:44] 3that fight is SUPPOSED to be underwhelming [2016-04-02 03:38:49] 3thats the whole joke [2016-04-02 03:38:59] 12replace every nominee with cloud n. candy [2016-04-02 03:39:06] ^ [2016-04-02 03:39:10] 9,1^ [2016-04-02 03:39:13] <_2257> 7ok this was my award [2016-04-02 03:39:14] ^ [2016-04-02 03:39:20] <_2257> 7so disappointing [2016-04-02 03:39:26] 4if we replace this that means we need to brainstorm another nominee on the forum [2016-04-02 03:39:32] 4I mean, another award [2016-04-02 03:39:37] i had another award in mind [2016-04-02 03:39:40] i'm cool wi- oh? [2016-04-02 03:39:46] 12what is it [2016-04-02 03:39:53] i mentioned it last week but idk if anything came from that [2016-04-02 03:40:08] 3worst hat? [2016-04-02 03:40:16] i mean the only way we can salvage this is cutting cloud n candy and monstar [2016-04-02 03:40:20] something like 'most disappointing game' using the nominees from last year's 'most anticipated game' [2016-04-02 03:40:26] for being intentionally underwhelming [2016-04-02 03:40:30] but even then it would probably suck [2016-04-02 03:40:30] 4oh, lol, well [2016-04-02 03:40:33] i guess that's an alright idea [2016-04-02 03:40:37] <_2257> 7i hate cutting popular nominees to engineer a new winner [2016-04-02 03:40:40] 3you cant cut a nominee for winning [2016-04-02 03:40:40] 4we had the idea to rename Worst Game into Most Disappointing Game [2016-04-02 03:40:41] 4so [2016-04-02 03:40:41] yeah me too [2016-04-02 03:40:47] <_2257> 7we should just get rid of it completely if thats the only other choice [2016-04-02 03:40:57] that's why it should probably just be axed completely [2016-04-02 03:41:05] oh ok [2016-04-02 03:41:08] also per 22 [2016-04-02 03:41:09] 4the rename would help the meme votes fuck right on off [2016-04-02 03:41:12] yes [2016-04-02 03:41:41] 4but mcd I'm glad you came up with that idea independently because that means it's a good idea [2016-04-02 03:42:10] 4either way we have plenty of time to brainstorm another award idea [2016-04-02 03:42:24] 4just to make it official let's vote on it [2016-04-02 03:42:41] 4Vote: Remove Most Underwhelming Boss as F13? (y/n/a) [2016-04-02 03:42:44] 9,1y [2016-04-02 03:42:45] y [2016-04-02 03:42:46] 3a [2016-04-02 03:42:47] a [2016-04-02 03:42:47] <_2257> 7y ;_; [2016-04-02 03:42:48] a [2016-04-02 03:42:50] y [2016-04-02 03:42:51] 12a [2016-04-02 03:42:52] y [2016-04-02 03:43:01] 125-0-4 [2016-04-02 03:43:02] y [2016-04-02 03:43:08] 3"yayayayay" [2016-04-02 03:43:08] a [2016-04-02 03:43:08] y [2016-04-02 03:43:18] 4worst case is we can't come up with a new idea and we just prop this one back up [2016-04-02 03:43:21] a [2016-04-02 03:43:35] rip a legendary award [2016-04-02 03:43:40] 127-0-6 [2016-04-02 03:43:45] -->| Mariofan169 (Mibbit@798-861-844-90.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net) has joined #mwikiawards [2016-04-02 03:43:52] 9,1a legendary piece of shit award [2016-04-02 03:44:04] rude [2016-04-02 03:44:07] 1222's baby is dead [2016-04-02 03:44:08] is it worst koopaling [2016-04-02 03:44:22] 4 1/3 of Fail Awards are being removed [2016-04-02 03:44:23] i presented this award like 4 years ago but all the pictures are gone because lol imageshack [2016-04-02 03:44:23] <_2257> 7T_T [2016-04-02 03:44:31] it's ok 22 can have a new baby sometime else [2016-04-02 03:44:38] IMAGESHACK [2016-04-02 03:44:38] 4with that we can move on [2016-04-02 03:44:39] i hope [2016-04-02 03:44:40] * Raiko_Chaorikawa convulses [2016-04-02 03:44:45] 4F14 Worst Location (Flipside/Flopside (SPM), The Toxic Waterfall/Lily Pad Ride (SMS), Corona Mountain (SMS), Subcon (SMB2), Banshee Boardwalk (MK64), Star Carnival (MP8), Twilight Trail (PMTTYD), Long Fall Falls (PMSS), Cave (DKCR)) [2016-04-02 03:44:52] * Gamefreak75 picks up chao and shakes him [2016-04-02 03:44:53] 12the awards really do fail [2016-04-02 03:44:56] 4Flipside/Flopside (SPM) – 29 (6.46%) O. Rainbow Road SNES – 2 [2016-04-02 03:45:02] 3fuck, I had something about this award [2016-04-02 03:45:03] remove the fail awards entirely [2016-04-02 03:45:05] 4none of the nominees that are there really deserve to be removed [2016-04-02 03:45:11] 12per [2016-04-02 03:45:13] skip? [2016-04-02 03:45:18] or make a fail fail awards for bad fail awards [2016-04-02 03:45:23] also per anton [2016-04-02 03:45:24] 9,1^ [2016-04-02 03:45:25] Don't Move Levels (SMM) [2016-04-02 03:45:26] (just joking) [2016-04-02 03:45:27] anything in dream team people found extra shitty? [2016-04-02 03:45:28] skip [2016-04-02 03:45:30] is there anything in paper jam that sucked? [2016-04-02 03:45:31] er [2016-04-02 03:45:34] paper jam [2016-04-02 03:45:37] not dream team [2016-04-02 03:45:43] thanks gamefreak [2016-04-02 03:45:44] 12skip unless anyone has a good idea for an addition [2016-04-02 03:45:46] 3I wanted to post something about that award, but I never got around to it [2016-04-02 03:45:46] Packy: We already added that to level concepts [2016-04-02 03:45:47] i appreciate the help [2016-04-02 03:45:50] oh [2016-04-02 03:45:51] ffffff [2016-04-02 03:45:53] all the locations in paper jam are forgettable and generic [2016-04-02 03:45:57] nothing really to hate [2016-04-02 03:46:00] I wasn't here for that I don't think ;-; [2016-04-02 03:46:11] ignore me then~~ [2016-04-02 03:46:16] 3can we delay a decision on that [2016-04-02 03:46:21] 3or would that fuck up the schedule [2016-04-02 03:46:22] there wasn't anything super bad [2016-04-02 03:46:32] 4we can skip it then come back to it next meeting [2016-04-02 03:46:37] 3ok [2016-04-02 03:46:38] 4I'll keep it in the yellow highlight [2016-04-02 03:46:38] add the excess express [2016-04-02 03:46:41] 3lets do that [2016-04-02 03:46:50] next meeting is when the other nominations for fails are closed, right? [2016-04-02 03:46:56] >the excess express [2016-04-02 03:46:57] nyrie [2016-04-02 03:46:58] 12remove nyrie [2016-04-02 03:46:59] go [2016-04-02 03:47:00] pls, go [2016-04-02 03:47:01] 4I believe so, gf [2016-04-02 03:47:04] add glitz pit [2016-04-02 03:47:09] m8 [2016-04-02 03:47:10] <_2257> 7remove nyrie [2016-04-02 03:47:11] ok [2016-04-02 03:47:14] Worst User: Nyrie, Gamefreak75 [2016-04-02 03:47:16] y/n [2016-04-02 03:47:18] 12y [2016-04-02 03:47:20] xD [2016-04-02 03:47:20] y [2016-04-02 03:47:22] 9,1y [2016-04-02 03:47:23] n [2016-04-02 03:47:24] n [2016-04-02 03:47:28] 4let's move on [2016-04-02 03:47:30] a [2016-04-02 03:47:30] y [2016-04-02 03:47:32] ok [2016-04-02 03:47:35] yeah move on [2016-04-02 03:47:38] 4because this next one will potentially have a lot to discuss [2016-04-02 03:47:47] 4F15 Worst Game (Mario is Missing!, Mario Teaches Typing & 2, Mario's Time Machine, Mario Clash, New Super Mario Bros. 2, Paper Mario: Sticker Star, Yoshi’s New Island, Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games, Mario Party 10) [2016-04-02 03:47:49] i have moral obligations not to say nyrie or gf as worst users [2016-04-02 03:47:54] 4the first thing before we address anything else about this [2016-04-02 03:48:00] 4is the rename to Most Disappointing Game [2016-04-02 03:48:06] 4I believe this is a good idea because: [2016-04-02 03:48:25] 4as it stands right now the meme games are getting all of the votes thanks to youtube poops and nothing else, really [2016-04-02 03:48:27] is there anything bad about mario clash beside HURDUR VIRTUAL BOY SUCKS [2016-04-02 03:48:31] 4as well as old games by the sheer fact that they're old [2016-04-02 03:48:42] yeah if we do that just throwaway all the obviously bad games [2016-04-02 03:48:44] 4a change to Most Disappointing would give each game a relative base to be bad from [2016-04-02 03:48:56] will that really curb the meme votes though [2016-04-02 03:48:57] <_2257> 7lets hope this works [2016-04-02 03:48:59] yeah i support that [2016-04-02 03:49:01] im not opposed to the change [2016-04-02 03:49:02] I'd love that change [2016-04-02 03:49:04] pretty sure mario clash was shit gameplay wise too [2016-04-02 03:49:05] 4it will we we cut all of the meme games yeah [2016-04-02 03:49:07] also i support the change [2016-04-02 03:49:08] im just saying i dont expect much to change [2016-04-02 03:49:12] Yeah I think Most Disappointing would be a welcome change [2016-04-02 03:49:14] mario clash is like kind of a meme game though [2016-04-02 03:49:15] I'm unsure on it [2016-04-02 03:49:20] it would cut out the first four games right? [2016-04-02 03:49:21] 3lets do it [2016-04-02 03:49:22] since i doubt most pepole who vote for it have played it [2016-04-02 03:49:23] *four nominations [2016-04-02 03:49:24] please cut the meme games [2016-04-02 03:49:29] 12i'm ok with the change and getting rid of the memes [2016-04-02 03:49:31] and yeah, cut the meme games [2016-04-02 03:49:32] 4let's make it a vote [2016-04-02 03:49:32] hotel mario needs to go away [2016-04-02 03:49:36] oh we're going to cut out the games [2016-04-02 03:49:38] also add ultra smash btw [2016-04-02 03:49:39] i guess im ok with that [2016-04-02 03:49:43] 12hotel mario did go away [2016-04-02 03:49:54] 12it still gets a million write ins though [2016-04-02 03:50:01] 12maybe this will help [2016-04-02 03:50:01] 4Vote: Rename F15 Worst Game to "Most Disappointing Game", accepting it's new definition as well? (y/n/a) [2016-04-02 03:50:03] 4y [2016-04-02 03:50:05] y [2016-04-02 03:50:05] 3y [2016-04-02 03:50:05] 12y [2016-04-02 03:50:06] y [2016-04-02 03:50:06] y [2016-04-02 03:50:06] y [2016-04-02 03:50:07] y [2016-04-02 03:50:07] y [2016-04-02 03:50:07] <_2257> 7y [2016-04-02 03:50:08] y [2016-04-02 03:50:08] i don't always vote against memes, but when i do, it's for mario [2016-04-02 03:50:09] y [2016-04-02 03:50:10] so y [2016-04-02 03:50:12] 9,1y [2016-04-02 03:50:13] y [2016-04-02 03:50:14] y [2016-04-02 03:50:15] 4gr8 [2016-04-02 03:50:19] y [2016-04-02 03:50:20] stay thirtsty my friend [2016-04-02 03:50:22] barbaric anti-memeism [2016-04-02 03:50:22] y [2016-04-02 03:50:26] y [2016-04-02 03:50:30] thirsty [2016-04-02 03:50:30] y [2016-04-02 03:50:33] |<-- SonicMario has left irc.darkmyst.org:6697 (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [2016-04-02 03:50:36] the meme games will still get write a couple ins but we can't do much about that [2016-04-02 03:50:43] <_2257> 7we should make it so that if someone writes in hotel mario, it bans their ip address [2016-04-02 03:50:45] 3pidgey voted against memes [2016-04-02 03:50:51] 3need to take a screenshot [2016-04-02 03:50:52] 9,1I vote against bad memes [2016-04-02 03:50:59] 9,1Hotel Mario is a bad meme [2016-04-02 03:51:02] take a screenshot with nyrie too [2016-04-02 03:51:04] gay luigi [2016-04-02 03:51:06] 12195-0-0 [2016-04-02 03:51:08] 1219.5-0-0 [2016-04-02 03:51:09] 4ok so with this new rename [2016-04-02 03:51:09] hotel mario ytps are quality memes [2016-04-02 03:51:11] all toasters toast toast [2016-04-02 03:51:13] holy christ smasher [2016-04-02 03:51:14] 9,1Good memes are like [2016-04-02 03:51:14] 4the entire award needs to be redone [2016-04-02 03:51:14] WOW 195 [2016-04-02 03:51:16] 12i'm not on my a-game tonight [2016-04-02 03:51:18] there are no bar memes [2016-04-02 03:51:19] 9,1half a presses [2016-04-02 03:51:22] <_2257> 7195 people were in favor of this [2016-04-02 03:51:22] LUCKILY I FOUND A MAGIC BALLOON [2016-04-02 03:51:25] *bad [2016-04-02 03:51:29] so remove the cd-i games, right [2016-04-02 03:51:34] mario is missing [2016-04-02 03:51:37] yes [2016-04-02 03:51:40] rev up those fryers [2016-04-02 03:51:45] well i guess the cd-i game was removed [2016-04-02 03:51:49] because it was hotel mario [2016-04-02 03:51:53] remove the first 4 games [2016-04-02 03:51:53] -->| SonicMario (Mibbit@107.50.lhg.ll) has joined #mwikiawards [2016-04-02 03:51:54] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o SonicMario by ChanServ [2016-04-02 03:51:55] the shitty ytp games [2016-04-02 03:52:01] remove mario is missing, mario clash, and mario teaches typing [2016-04-02 03:52:02] missing, teaches typing, clash, and learning [2016-04-02 03:52:04] all toaster toast toast [2016-04-02 03:52:05] the rest are fine [2016-04-02 03:52:11] was learning on there [2016-04-02 03:52:14] 4(Mario is Missing!, Mario Teaches Typing & 2, Mario's Time Machine, Mario Clash) ? [2016-04-02 03:52:16] oh no [2016-04-02 03:52:18] time machine yeah [2016-04-02 03:52:21] yeah it was those [2016-04-02 03:52:33] 12yeah get rid of those [2016-04-02 03:52:34] The first three are meme games [2016-04-02 03:52:39] all of the other games have a reason to be disappointing [2016-04-02 03:52:39] The forth is eh [2016-04-02 03:52:42] i feel bad, i kind of liked the mario teaches typing games : - ( [2016-04-02 03:52:44] ok well to be honest clash is still a meme game [2016-04-02 03:52:47] because honestly [2016-04-02 03:52:51] even if it's shit gameplay-wise [2016-04-02 03:52:53] who's actually [2016-04-02 03:52:55] played it [2016-04-02 03:53:03] and isn't just voting for it because they know the virtual boy was a meme [2016-04-02 03:53:13] nobody has ever even played those games and just vote for them because of youtube poops and top 10 worst game lists [2016-04-02 03:53:18] 4(New Super Mario Bros. 2, Paper Mario: Sticker Star, Yoshi’s New Island, Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games, Mario Party 10) [2016-04-02 03:53:19] so does that leave us with [2016-04-02 03:53:20] 4this is just 5 [2016-04-02 03:53:23] 5 games [2016-04-02 03:53:24] yeah [2016-04-02 03:53:26] well [2016-04-02 03:53:29] add ultra smash [2016-04-02 03:53:30] 4it's the bare minimum but for a big award like F15 we need a lot more [2016-04-02 03:53:31] 9,1Ultra Smash? [2016-04-02 03:53:31] definitely [2016-04-02 03:53:32] 12we can add ultra smash [2016-04-02 03:53:36] add ultra mas- [2016-04-02 03:53:38] honestly sticker star has become a meme at this point [2016-04-02 03:53:40] mash [2016-04-02 03:53:41] 9,1wait we need to think about this [2016-04-02 03:53:41] fucking [2016-04-02 03:53:42] 3I was pretty disappointed with Super Paper Mario when it was announced [2016-04-02 03:53:43] but people have actually played it [2016-04-02 03:53:56] 12yeah people actually own sticker star [2016-04-02 03:54:10] Mario Party 9 was more disappointing than Mario Party 10 [2016-04-02 03:54:10] 9,1I got to the final boss [2016-04-02 03:54:14] 9,1no [2016-04-02 03:54:18] 9,1MP10 was more disappointing [2016-04-02 03:54:23] super paper mario would be good i think [2016-04-02 03:54:24] 12they were both pretty disappointing [2016-04-02 03:54:24] 9,1way more disappointing [2016-04-02 03:54:29] 4just a notice: [2016-04-02 03:54:31] i would be in favour of spm for this [2016-04-02 03:54:34] 4since we're generating like [2016-04-02 03:54:39] at least people had hope with 9 [2016-04-02 03:54:40] 4roughly 10 new nominees for this [2016-04-02 03:54:46] does anyone have any opinion of Rio 2016? [2016-04-02 03:54:48] 4this will be something to do on the forum [2016-04-02 03:54:49] mario party 10 was basically them not paying attention to the negative feedback for 9 [2016-04-02 03:54:52] never played it [2016-04-02 03:54:55] and shitting out another game anyway [2016-04-02 03:54:56] I haven't played it and only the 3DS version is out [2016-04-02 03:54:58] 12i'm personally ok with spm but i think it would be a good nominee for it too [2016-04-02 03:55:05] 4but there's like 6 minutes left with nothing else we can tackle in that time so I guess just keep discussing this [2016-04-02 03:55:08] but I didn't know what the reception/reviews were like among literally anyone [2016-04-02 03:55:13] <_2257> 7what about [2016-04-02 03:55:13] 4and lob your ideas immediately after the meeting once I create the thread [2016-04-02 03:55:15] <_2257> 7smg2 [2016-04-02 03:55:16] i guess i can go with SPM if it's really popular [2016-04-02 03:55:25] <_2257> 7am i the onyl one who was hugely disappointed by that [2016-04-02 03:55:29] but guys [2016-04-02 03:55:31] 12you're not [2016-04-02 03:55:35] no 22 [2016-04-02 03:55:38] maybe a m vs dk game or mario kart super circuit [2016-04-02 03:55:39] no one hates spm now that its so much comparatively better [2016-04-02 03:55:39] i wasn't [2016-04-02 03:55:41] 12i wasn't particularly, but you're not [2016-04-02 03:55:47] oh yeah mario kart super circuit [2016-04-02 03:55:50] I would be in favor of that [2016-04-02 03:55:56] butthurt pm fanboys were as well [2016-04-02 03:56:01] i wasn't diasppointed cause i expected nothing from smg2 and got nothing in return [2016-04-02 03:56:02] spm was a lot more disappointing though because before spm existed, there were 0 bad paper mario games [2016-04-02 03:56:03] 12forgot about super circuit [2016-04-02 03:56:10] after it, there was 1, so there being another one wasn't as big a deal [2016-04-02 03:56:13] <_2257> 7actually i still think spm is kind of pretty shit [2016-04-02 03:56:15] what about new super luigi u? [2016-04-02 03:56:21] i hate all of you [2016-04-02 03:56:22] maaaybe mario party advance but [2016-04-02 03:56:24] the only good thing about spm was the soundtrack [2016-04-02 03:56:25] daily reminder [2016-04-02 03:56:31] gamefreak [2016-04-02 03:56:33] now that we have more bad PM games i've learned to accept SPM [2016-04-02 03:56:36] do you want to build a bunker [2016-04-02 03:56:40] was /anyone/ excited for that game [2016-04-02 03:56:42] 9,1Why is literally every award about bad games almost filled with the same nominees? [2016-04-02 03:56:46] I like SPM but I do agree it's a disappointment as a follow-up to the previous two games. [2016-04-02 03:56:49] we can hole up in there and wait for our fellow spm fans [2016-04-02 03:56:53] yes [2016-04-02 03:56:54] 9,1They're almost the same thing. [2016-04-02 03:56:56] porch/gamefreak [2016-04-02 03:56:57] may I join you [2016-04-02 03:57:01] yes [2016-04-02 03:57:04] hooray! [2016-04-02 03:57:05] also can we add mario vs donkey kong tipping stars [2016-04-02 03:57:08] ?? [2016-04-02 03:57:13] yeah now that we have skyward sword ive learned to acccept tp [2016-04-02 03:57:14] porch [2016-04-02 03:57:16] is that the actual name of ag ame [2016-04-02 03:57:19] that doesnt mean tp isnt still kind of anus though [2016-04-02 03:57:19] yes [2016-04-02 03:57:27] |<-- mcd has left irc.darkmyst.org:6697 (Quit: z) [2016-04-02 03:57:27] how many of those games do they have by this point [2016-04-02 03:57:32] too many [2016-04-02 03:57:35] we can add the most recent mario vs dk [2016-04-02 03:57:35] am i the only one who loves skyward sword [2016-04-02 03:57:38] would 3D land be an interesting one to include [2016-04-02 03:57:39] the amiibo one [2016-04-02 03:57:48] I also liked skyward sword [2016-04-02 03:57:49] am i just blinded by the zelda series that much or something [2016-04-02 03:57:50] 3d land was pretty good so [2016-04-02 03:57:58] what about game and wario? weren't a bunch of people disappointed in that [2016-04-02 03:57:59] it's most disappointing [2016-04-02 03:58:01] not worst [2016-04-02 03:58:04] 9,1this isn't zelda, this is mario [2016-04-02 03:58:07] i could see why people would be disappointed in 3d land [2016-04-02 03:58:12] 12i thought 3d land was pretty disappointing [2016-04-02 03:58:13] <_2257> 7well lets not talk about skyward sword now [2016-04-02 03:58:17] even if it's...... playable, ig euss [2016-04-02 03:58:21] i heard people were disappointed with game and wario [2016-04-02 03:58:27] 3d land disappointed me [2016-04-02 03:58:32] as nyrie said [2016-04-02 03:58:33] 12it's not a bad game but it's still disappointing [2016-04-02 03:58:39] 12definitely my least favorite 3d game [2016-04-02 03:58:41] iit's like how smg2 isn't objectively bad [2016-04-02 03:58:42] i'm going to make a quick list of ideas [2016-04-02 03:58:47] ok i'm just [2016-04-02 03:58:49] 4ok so I made the thread for that http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=36601.0 [2016-04-02 03:58:49] but it was disappointing because it was a glorified smg1 level pack [2016-04-02 03:58:49] 12i haven't played game & wario [2016-04-02 03:58:50] genuinely asking [2016-04-02 03:58:51] and post them when there's a thread [2016-04-02 03:58:52] OH [2016-04-02 03:58:54] yay [2016-04-02 03:58:56] 4dump all of your ideas into that in a concise manner [2016-04-02 03:59:01] 12i was going to gather them all up [2016-04-02 03:59:04] <_2257> 7well [2016-04-02 03:59:08] 12but you can if you want [2016-04-02 03:59:15] 4and with the last like minute we have I'll just provide an overview for the next week: [2016-04-02 03:59:15] i know the topic was said about cutting non-mario stuff, does that mean Smash 3DS would not count as a thought? [2016-04-02 03:59:16] <_2257> 7was nsmb2 a disappointment [2016-04-02 03:59:19] yeah [2016-04-02 03:59:20] I think people thought it was kind of disappointing [2016-04-02 03:59:22] i think it was [2016-04-02 03:59:22] <_2257> 7was tll a disappointment [2016-04-02 03:59:32] the only person ive ever seen like nsmb2 is borp [2016-04-02 03:59:37] is tll lost levels [2016-04-02 03:59:40] <_2257> 7yeah [2016-04-02 03:59:42] 4there are currently 4 new fail award ideas that need to be refined to the point of completion before next meeting [2016-04-02 03:59:43] idk how to judge people's expectations for that [2016-04-02 03:59:45] i think so yeah [2016-04-02 03:59:46] but it probably was [2016-04-02 03:59:48] 4they each had individual threads in the forum [2016-04-02 04:00:00] 4we will also need to brainstorm an idea for a 5th new award idea [2016-04-02 04:00:16] 4during the next meeting we will go over and finish all of these, plus F14 [2016-04-02 04:00:22] gg [2016-04-02 04:00:25] I'd argue the 25th anniversary edition of all stars was disappointing [2016-04-02 04:00:32] <_2257> 7really [2016-04-02 04:00:36] 4after all of that we will start User Awards [2016-04-02 04:00:41] <_2257> 7people should have known exactly what they were getting into [2016-04-02 04:00:49] oh it's over welp [2016-04-02 04:00:50] <_2257> 7it wasnt advertised as anything but a striaght port [2016-04-02 04:00:55] <_2257> 7how coudl taht be disappointing [2016-04-02 04:00:59] 4a heads up for User Awards [2016-04-02 04:01:00] 4there are some [2016-04-02 04:01:03] 4hefty decisions [2016-04-02 04:01:04] 4to be made [2016-04-02 04:01:17] 9,1wait [2016-04-02 04:01:17] 4next meeting will need a lot less shitposting than this one had [2016-04-02 04:01:21] 9,1yes [2016-04-02 04:01:26] I think I remember people being disappointed it was just that. And not some big new game probably. [2016-04-02 04:01:31] it was an exact port of the original beside physical extras [2016-04-02 04:01:53] didn't even have smw [2016-04-02 04:01:54] Not sure if that's ground for being added to this award or not but yeah [2016-04-02 04:02:01] 4as of this moment we're technically right on schedule, but I feel we're falling behind because meetings aren't as productive as they could be [2016-04-02 04:02:18] 4pretty much entirely as a result of no one actually listening until I start yelling, as well and endless shitposting [2016-04-02 04:02:30] 4I don't want to have a 2nd speech about this subject since I feel that doing it once was enough [2016-04-02 04:02:41] 4as well as* [2016-04-02 04:03:05] 4if having 32 people in this committee is actually a hindrance to our goal, I will begin cutting people and restricting access [2016-04-02 04:03:10] 4these need to be productive [2016-04-02 04:03:13] 4we're on a schedule [2016-04-02 04:03:29] 4anyways [2016-04-02 04:03:37] 4that's all I have to say !!