[2016-04-30 01:49:05] -->| YOU (Lakituthequick) have joined #mwikiawards [2016-04-30 01:49:05] =-= Topic for #mwikiawards is ``"An Excellent Meeting" - Chef Excellence, 2015 || Awards are canceled, I have a hair appointment the day of the ceremony and I can't miss it, soz || 1st meeting hype || http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=36197.0 Links || Number of meetings survived: 8'' [2016-04-30 01:49:05] =-= Topic for #mwikiawards was set by Tailmon on zondag 24 april 2016 4:07:49 [2016-04-30 01:49:05] *ChanServ* [#mwikiawards] Chatroom rules: https://docs.google.com/View?id=drz9zgp_106rcrvqhhj [2016-04-30 01:49:05] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o Lakituthequick by ChanServ [2016-04-30 01:52:57] === UltraMario (Mibbit@204.10.gn.otj) has invited you to [[#ultramariochat][Accept invitation to channel #ultramariochat][goto-url ircs://irc.darkmyst.org:6697/ultramariochat]]. [2016-04-30 01:54:02] -->| Freakworld (Freakworld@d9x96b505.dyn.telefonica.de) has joined #mwikiawards [2016-04-30 01:54:03] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o Freakworld by ChanServ [2016-04-30 01:56:13] -->| Gabumon (chatzilla@oaic-554-584-109-012.054.084.pools.vodafone-ip.de) has joined #mwikiawards [2016-04-30 01:56:13] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o Gabumon by ChanServ [2016-04-30 01:57:07] 12the meeting was yesterday [2016-04-30 01:57:11] 12everyone is fired [2016-04-30 01:57:49] 3"everyone" is a variable here, with the value of "Smasher" [2016-04-30 01:58:25] 9,1String everyone = "Smasher"; [2016-04-30 01:59:00] can i be fired too [2016-04-30 01:59:07] terminate(Smasher); [2016-04-30 01:59:54] hi [2016-04-30 02:00:26] 12i'm sorry i'm immune from being fired for reasons i don't want to tell you [2016-04-30 02:00:34] 3Ok, its time and stuff [2016-04-30 02:00:47] 3Welcome to the first awards committee meeting [2016-04-30 02:01:03] it's actually the £th [2016-04-30 02:01:05] what were the previous meetings for, then? [2016-04-30 02:01:14] 3unfortunately, anton cant be here because he broke his saucer and is stranded on pizza planet [2016-04-30 02:01:15] volunteerism [2016-04-30 02:01:23] great star gabumon [2016-04-30 02:01:29] 9,1everyone.terminate(); [2016-04-30 02:01:31] *start [2016-04-30 02:01:33] 3anyway [2016-04-30 02:01:37] 12what other meetings? [2016-04-30 02:01:47] 3the agenda today will be pretty much [2016-04-30 02:01:49] 12you must have been dreaming [2016-04-30 02:01:52] i need pizza [2016-04-30 02:01:53] 3finish up U7 [2016-04-30 02:02:00] 3and continue the full review [2016-04-30 02:02:17] 3let's dive right into that then [2016-04-30 02:02:23] i need pizza as well [2016-04-30 02:02:42] anton should get us all pizza [2016-04-30 02:02:44] somebody hack pizza through the network [2016-04-30 02:03:00] 3we've been discussing U7 and what to do with it, and we've concluded to make it a "Favorite Community LPer" award [2016-04-30 02:03:14] was there any other reasonable ideas [2016-04-30 02:03:14] 3and gathering nominees for that [2016-04-30 02:03:22] lper seemed liek the only one [2016-04-30 02:03:39] <_2257> 7the only other decent one was to just retain favorite community event imo [2016-04-30 02:03:39] =-= Lucina is now known as NSY [2016-04-30 02:03:43] <_2257> 7i like this better, though [2016-04-30 02:03:49] 3None that really bore any fruit [2016-04-30 02:04:00] <_2257> 7(but all the other alternatives were really awful things like "favorite fad") [2016-04-30 02:04:00] there's 9 candidates and that's actually better than what i thought it was originally going to be [2016-04-30 02:04:04] 12we could have done favor smasher [2016-04-30 02:04:04] -->| Anton{Politoed} (androirc@2600:1017:b108:vitw:mily:iwst:vsoj:ntvs) has joined #mwikiawards [2016-04-30 02:04:05] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o Anton{Politoed} by ChanServ [2016-04-30 02:04:08] 12favorite [2016-04-30 02:04:13] 9,1I'm completely in favour of the new U7 and scrapping the old U7, by the way. [2016-04-30 02:04:15] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o NSY by ChanServ [2016-04-30 02:04:17] i still think favorite smasher would have been a good idea but oh well [2016-04-30 02:04:19] At work so I'm effectively useless but hi [2016-04-30 02:04:20] maybe next year [2016-04-30 02:04:23] hi [2016-04-30 02:04:31] 9,1But I've stated this numerous amount of times, so that comment is slightly redundant. [2016-04-30 02:04:31] im here now [2016-04-30 02:04:41] but i might have to leave for a bit in a few minutes [2016-04-30 02:04:58] so as usual my parents would like me to play games with them and i am powerless to tell them im busy, so i'll be back later [2016-04-30 02:05:07] <_2257> 7bye [2016-04-30 02:05:11] ok [2016-04-30 02:05:14] 3turb has compiled a list of nominees for us [2016-04-30 02:05:15] 12good luck [2016-04-30 02:05:16] 3http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=36687.msg1834335#msg1834335 [2016-04-30 02:05:17] good lluck [2016-04-30 02:05:17] bye [2016-04-30 02:05:18] 3here [2016-04-30 02:05:20] 3with links [2016-04-30 02:05:41] 3http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=36687.msg1834463#msg1834463 [2016-04-30 02:05:44] "too lazy to find the others" [2016-04-30 02:05:46] 3and df has a couple more links [2016-04-30 02:05:47] i couldnt have found this list [2016-04-30 02:05:52] oh yeah [2016-04-30 02:05:58] i guess there's also http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=31636.msg1490955#msg1490955 [2016-04-30 02:06:01] i posted those links right? [2016-04-30 02:06:04] in place of v&df lps [2016-04-30 02:06:18] or in addition to it [2016-04-30 02:06:27] 3ok [2016-04-30 02:06:28] i think replace it will be better since [2016-04-30 02:06:32] it didn't really go too far [2016-04-30 02:07:17] 3We can probably link the individual works of those people on the dossier [2016-04-30 02:07:18] 9,1I like the proposed nominees. [2016-04-30 02:07:57] 3but the list we have is: [2016-04-30 02:07:58] 3 [2016-04-30 02:08:00] 3DragonFreak [2016-04-30 02:08:01] 3Dippy [2016-04-30 02:08:03] 3Freakworld [2016-04-30 02:08:04] 3GBAToad [2016-04-30 02:08:06] 3LN1 [2016-04-30 02:08:08] 3NEXandGBX [2016-04-30 02:08:09] 3Puddin [2016-04-30 02:08:11] 3Vommack [2016-04-30 02:08:12] 3Edo [2016-04-30 02:08:13] -->| Smg2daisy (Mibbit@175.144.gl.jj) has joined #mwikiawards [2016-04-30 02:08:30] 3are there any last minute additions that anyone would like to bring forth [2016-04-30 02:08:35] looks good to me [2016-04-30 02:08:42] i have none to add [2016-04-30 02:08:44] 12i can't think of anyone [2016-04-30 02:09:02] i think that's it [2016-04-30 02:09:05] 9,1I have no objections to the proposed list of nominees. [2016-04-30 02:09:08] that sounds good [2016-04-30 02:09:18] only thing i can think of not on there is me and tfp but [2016-04-30 02:09:25] those were obscure things that no one will remember by now [2016-04-30 02:09:27] did you do lps [2016-04-30 02:09:28] banned users are banned from inclusion am i correct? [2016-04-30 02:09:37] we streamed mk64 once [2016-04-30 02:09:37] yes [2016-04-30 02:09:40] they did smw in 2008 [2016-04-30 02:09:42] well i mean [2016-04-30 02:09:48] idk [2016-04-30 02:09:50] okay that rules out ftg [2016-04-30 02:09:53] tfp and tb played tat one smw hack i think [2016-04-30 02:10:02] yeah ftg was v8 [2016-04-30 02:10:05] the only real precedence i can think of for including you is like [2016-04-30 02:10:10] *v& [2016-04-30 02:10:10] which hack did we play [2016-04-30 02:10:16] oh wait [2016-04-30 02:10:18] tfp streamed that didnt he [2016-04-30 02:10:19] the fact that vommack hasn't done an lp in ages [2016-04-30 02:10:21] 12coulda had a v8 [2016-04-30 02:10:22] im fine with the nominees [2016-04-30 02:10:32] you guys could maybe make it in for the same reason [2016-04-30 02:10:34] but i dunno [2016-04-30 02:10:35] well still we did it once and then that was it for [2016-04-30 02:10:36] year [2016-04-30 02:10:36] s [2016-04-30 02:10:37] do you have any vods [2016-04-30 02:10:40] or forum topics [2016-04-30 02:10:41] super mario chaos complexx [2016-04-30 02:10:44] no [2016-04-30 02:10:53] also having you as like a dual nominee would be awkward [2016-04-30 02:10:53] 3is there any way to access this lp [2016-04-30 02:10:56] oh that thing on youtube [2016-04-30 02:11:00] yeah that [2016-04-30 02:11:02] i guess that counts but [2016-04-30 02:11:04] i remember that [2016-04-30 02:11:07] its hella old and we never think about it anymore [2016-04-30 02:11:15] also having you as like a dual nominee would be awkward [2016-04-30 02:11:23] everything about our dualship in the awards is awkward [2016-04-30 02:11:26] it was kinda funny but eh idk its up to you i guess [2016-04-30 02:11:28] i mean we could split you in to two i guess [2016-04-30 02:11:32] also having you as like a dual nominee would be awkward [2016-04-30 02:11:33] but it's up to everyone else i guess [2016-04-30 02:11:35] not really [2016-04-30 02:11:42] 9,1Okay so, hang on. [2016-04-30 02:11:46] 9,1Hang on for a moment. [2016-04-30 02:11:49] we already have dual nominees in favorite presentation anyway [2016-04-30 02:11:50] also if we can't access the lp in any way it's a moot point anyway [2016-04-30 02:11:51] 3if it was a jointventure lp, then I think they should be nominated together [2016-04-30 02:11:52] yeah i guess [2016-04-30 02:11:57] https://www.youtube.com/user/PaperMario101/videos [2016-04-30 02:11:57] 9,1Let's look back to how the award is phrased. [2016-04-30 02:12:02] theres no playlist but you can see the videos here [2016-04-30 02:12:05] i dunno [2016-04-30 02:12:09] it was 6 years ago [2016-04-30 02:12:09] 9,1'Favorite Community LPer' [2016-04-30 02:12:12] we were shitty kids then [2016-04-30 02:12:17] is the mk64 lp accessible [2016-04-30 02:12:20] 9,1The one specific part I want to focus on is 'LPer'. [2016-04-30 02:12:24] tfp said he had the stream but [2016-04-30 02:12:32] 9,1When two users make an LP together, that means there are two LPers in a group. [2016-04-30 02:12:38] 3ok, then let me ask you the official question: [2016-04-30 02:12:47] 3Do you want to be nominated for this project? [2016-04-30 02:12:53] nah i dont think so [2016-04-30 02:12:57] 9,1Judging both members of a group separately will not be inconsistent. [2016-04-30 02:12:58] 3ok [2016-04-30 02:13:06] the two things we have that are possibly nominateable happened within 6 years [2016-04-30 02:13:19] 3then that pretty much clears it up [2016-04-30 02:13:49] that's true dave, but having them separated and giving the voter the same let's play to judg-ok that got cleared up nvm [2016-04-30 02:13:50] alright [2016-04-30 02:14:15] 3so I guess these 9 nominees are what we are going with [2016-04-30 02:14:34] 3there were no objections, so I'm going to mark this down as accepted then [2016-04-30 02:14:43] that's actually more than i expected lol [2016-04-30 02:14:53] 9,1Bones: even if that would be the case, different people generate different kind of jokes that play to different pallets of humour. [2016-04-30 02:15:00] 3pidgey [2016-04-30 02:15:09] 3tb said himself he doesnt want to be nominated [2016-04-30 02:15:13] 9,1yes [2016-04-30 02:15:19] 9,1'even if that /would/ be the case' [2016-04-30 02:15:23] yeah those videos should be buried lol [2016-04-30 02:15:24] 3the question is moot [2016-04-30 02:15:24] -->| Meta_Knight (androirc@172.58.xy.vz) has joined #mwikiawards [2016-04-30 02:15:25] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o Meta_Knight by ChanServ [2016-04-30 02:15:26] marowak i literally just said that lol [2016-04-30 02:15:28] i think pi wants to clear this up for future reference [2016-04-30 02:15:35] 9,1FW gets it. [2016-04-30 02:15:37] or just for the lols idk [2016-04-30 02:15:40] good [2016-04-30 02:15:50] dave we can continue this conversation elsewhere if you want but for now i think it's futile here [2016-04-30 02:16:01] What are we clearing up? [2016-04-30 02:16:08] 3Marowak gets it. [2016-04-30 02:16:12] confusio n [2016-04-30 02:16:13] 3anyway [2016-04-30 02:16:29] 3with this, U7 is finalized [2016-04-30 02:16:43] 9,1The only reason I was bringing it up was for next year's debates so this log can be referenced in the future, if a similar situation arises, and the award is not scrapped. [2016-04-30 02:16:46] 3and we can move on to the continuation of the full review [2016-04-30 02:17:25] 3last meeting, we stopped at M3: Favorite Mario Platformer [2016-04-30 02:17:38] 3Favorite Mario Platformer (Super Mario 64/Super Mario 64 DS, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Super Mario Bros., Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario World, New Super Mario Bros., New Super Mario Bros Wii, Super Mario Sunshine, Super Mario 3D Land, New Super Mario Bros 2, New Super Mario Bros U/New Super Luigi U, Super Mario 3D World) [2016-04-30 02:18:00] 3are there any mistakes, typos, or other things that should be pointed out? [2016-04-30 02:18:01] some of the nsmb games should have an . added after bros [2016-04-30 02:18:03] 9,1'New Super Mario Bros Wii' -> 'New Super Mario Bros. Wii' [2016-04-30 02:18:05] why exactly is the order of the nominees like this [2016-04-30 02:18:12] it's just the order we added them in [2016-04-30 02:18:14] just curious [2016-04-30 02:18:16] they're randomized on the polls anyway [2016-04-30 02:18:21] okay [2016-04-30 02:18:32] 9,1'New Super Mario Bros 2, New Super Mario Bros U' -> 'New Super Mario Bros. 2, New Super Mario Bros. U' [2016-04-30 02:18:44] 3dots are added [2016-04-30 02:19:01] 9,1'New Super Luigi U' is spelt correctly. [2016-04-30 02:19:20] 12with the dots i think this is fin [2016-04-30 02:19:22] 12fine [2016-04-30 02:19:37] New Super Luigi. U [2016-04-30 02:19:42] 3ok [2016-04-30 02:19:49] 3then we can move on [2016-04-30 02:20:26] 3Favorite Mario Kart Course (Bowser Castle (64), Rainbow Road (MK7), Wario Colosseum, Waluigi Pinball, Airship Fortress, Mushroom Gorge, Coconut Mall, Maple Treeway, Electrodrome, Rainbow Road (N64), Mount Wario, Mute City, Animal Crossing, Baby Park, Big Blue) [2016-04-30 02:20:37] 3(M4) [2016-04-30 02:20:39] 9,1Hang on, checking a couple of things. [2016-04-30 02:20:40] "Bowser's Castle (N64)" [2016-04-30 02:20:42] 3ok [2016-04-30 02:21:04] [s]why is baby park on this list [2016-04-30 02:21:18] 9,1Yes, Ltq, that was what I was checking. [2016-04-30 02:21:20] 12because people like it [2016-04-30 02:21:22] 12for some reason [2016-04-30 02:21:33] k [2016-04-30 02:21:34] 3to be honest, we should probably write out the game titles in the brackets [2016-04-30 02:21:46] i'd be fine with that change [2016-04-30 02:21:49] literally all other tracks on this award are 9/10 or 10/10 tracks though [2016-04-30 02:21:49] per edo [2016-04-30 02:21:50] also y [2016-04-30 02:22:02] <_2257> 7isnt baby park different in the wii u version [2016-04-30 02:22:06] 9,1Baby Park is widely different in the three games it is featured in. [2016-04-30 02:22:08] <_2257> 7upside down or something [2016-04-30 02:22:16] it used anti gravity [2016-04-30 02:22:25] 3which one are we going with then [2016-04-30 02:22:25] yeah its better but its still baby park [2016-04-30 02:22:27] 9,1No, it is slightly slanted and the entire racecourse obeys anti-gravity rules. [2016-04-30 02:22:35] also the ds version had only 5 laps [2016-04-30 02:22:37] it's barely a functional difference across the games though [2016-04-30 02:22:44] i think the way they were added in implies the mk8 version is meant# [2016-04-30 02:22:44] 9,1The reason it is different in Double Dash!! is because of Special Items. [2016-04-30 02:22:45] mostly visually [2016-04-30 02:22:51] 12i think the original is the one we intended [2016-04-30 02:23:03] yeah [2016-04-30 02:23:15] i recall we were intending to add the original [2016-04-30 02:23:20] [02:22] Freakworld i think the way they were added in implies the mk8 version is meant [2016-04-30 02:23:22] but [2016-04-30 02:23:24] but we can find the logs [2016-04-30 02:23:26] the order [2016-04-30 02:23:30] yeah, i know [2016-04-30 02:23:34] T H E O R D E R [2016-04-30 02:23:36] okay [2016-04-30 02:24:06] 3which games had baby park, apart from double dash [2016-04-30 02:24:17] 9,1Airship Fortress, Mushroom Gorge, Coconut Mall, Maple Treeway, and Rainbow Road (N64) are all featured in more than one game. [2016-04-30 02:24:20] <_2257> 7wasnt it mk8, ds, mk7 [2016-04-30 02:24:21] it came from the writeins actually [2016-04-30 02:24:24] 9,1DS and 8. [2016-04-30 02:24:24] so i guess the mk8 thing had nothing to do with it [2016-04-30 02:24:25] <_2257> 7i feel like its just [2016-04-30 02:24:26] <_2257> 7in every game [2016-04-30 02:24:31] it was in ds and 8 yeah [2016-04-30 02:24:42] dd, ds, 8 [2016-04-30 02:24:44] as dlc [2016-04-30 02:25:00] 9,1DD (regularly), DS (regularly), 8 (DLC Pack 2) [2016-04-30 02:25:02] 3ok so [2016-04-30 02:25:07] 3here is my take on it: [2016-04-30 02:25:32] 3the nominees that have qualifiers in brackets [2016-04-30 02:25:40] 3are bowsers castle and rainbow road [2016-04-30 02:25:51] 9,1Wait, Waluigi Pinball was also featured in two games. [2016-04-30 02:26:00] it was in mk7 [2016-04-30 02:26:08] 3bowsers castle and rainbow road are not individual tracks [2016-04-30 02:26:13] 3they are categories [2016-04-30 02:26:16] |<-- Meta_Knight has left irc.darkmyst.org:6697 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [2016-04-30 02:26:31] 3courses who have these two names are vastly different [2016-04-30 02:26:43] 3in layout, mechanics, and pretty much everything but theme [2016-04-30 02:26:49] 3so they need the qualifiers [2016-04-30 02:27:18] 3the iterations of baby park are slightly different from each other, but still largely function the same way and have the same layout [2016-04-30 02:27:28] 3so my conclusion is they do not need the qualifier [2016-04-30 02:27:55] 9,1I've played all three versions of it and each version is certainly different from the other. [2016-04-30 02:27:59] 9,1*the others [2016-04-30 02:28:08] i don't really feel like they're that different honestly [2016-04-30 02:28:13] at least not DD and DS [2016-04-30 02:28:16] can you elaborate [2016-04-30 02:28:17] 3but is it as different as the different versions of rainbow road? [2016-04-30 02:28:18] the differences are minor at most [2016-04-30 02:28:19] <_2257> 7werent they? [2016-04-30 02:28:21] per turb [2016-04-30 02:28:23] i dont recall baby park being any different whatsoever in dd to ds [2016-04-30 02:28:26] <_2257> 7i thought in ds they dropped the [2016-04-30 02:28:29] 9,1DD: Special Items [2016-04-30 02:28:30] it had less laps [2016-04-30 02:28:31] that difference is mostly aesthetic so [2016-04-30 02:28:32] <_2257> 7barriers that shells can pass over [2016-04-30 02:28:33] and no special items [2016-04-30 02:28:35] 9,1DS: Fewer laps [2016-04-30 02:28:43] special items seriously? [2016-04-30 02:28:43] but im fairly sure that for the most part like [2016-04-30 02:28:44] 9,18: Anti-gravity [2016-04-30 02:28:45] pi [2016-04-30 02:28:46] mk8: hell [2016-04-30 02:28:46] i don't think special items would really qualify as a change [2016-04-30 02:28:48] most people aren't going to [2016-04-30 02:28:49] its not different layout wise [2016-04-30 02:28:51] consider them that different [2016-04-30 02:28:56] how does that change a course [2016-04-30 02:28:56] when voting for it on the poll [2016-04-30 02:29:00] which is what is most important [2016-04-30 02:29:11] like, i can't think of anyone who's going to shit their pants because they loved the DD version but not the MK8 version [2016-04-30 02:29:14] 9,1NSY: it changes things for Baby Park specifically due to its small size. [2016-04-30 02:29:16] might as well include that on every double dash course that has been retroed [2016-04-30 02:29:19] <_2257> 7i havent played mkds in like 800 years though, i cant remember [2016-04-30 02:29:24] like, hell, imo we could also be consistent and always add the newest version supplied of a track [2016-04-30 02:29:37] <_2257> 7idk [2016-04-30 02:29:42] <_2257> 7if people really care about the difference [2016-04-30 02:29:46] still pi that stretches it [2016-04-30 02:29:50] which would move the mkwii tracks to mk7 [2016-04-30 02:29:52] is this anti gravity thing JUST in baby park or a game mechanic thqat's in every track of mk wii u [2016-04-30 02:29:52] i know i dont [2016-04-30 02:29:53] <_2257> 7i guess they can just put baby park (mk8) as a write in [2016-04-30 02:29:57] since they were all in that [2016-04-30 02:30:02] it's in most tracks bones [2016-04-30 02:30:03] not every special item in double dash is big anyway [2016-04-30 02:30:08] also, per 22 [2016-04-30 02:30:31] 12i do not feel the differences are major enough to warrant a qualifier or whatever [2016-04-30 02:30:34] 3lets just put it to vote [2016-04-30 02:30:44] then i honestly don't think it's a major change, at least relative to the track itself [2016-04-30 02:30:47] 12besides on bowser's castles and rainbow roads, which are different tracks completely [2016-04-30 02:30:55] im with edo here and say we have dont have any qualifier on baby park [2016-04-30 02:31:11] 12also heads up: i might have to leave early, we may end up losing power [2016-04-30 02:31:13] 3Are the differences between versions of Baby Park major enough that it needs the game qualifier? (Y/N/A) [2016-04-30 02:31:16] n [2016-04-30 02:31:18] n [2016-04-30 02:31:19] n [2016-04-30 02:31:19] n [2016-04-30 02:31:19] 3n [2016-04-30 02:31:19] n [2016-04-30 02:31:20] <_2257> 7n [2016-04-30 02:31:20] n [2016-04-30 02:31:21] n [2016-04-30 02:31:25] n [2016-04-30 02:31:30] 12n [2016-04-30 02:31:32] a [2016-04-30 02:31:37] 9,1tfw outvoted [2016-04-30 02:31:39] why did we talk about that so long with 0 ys [2016-04-30 02:31:44] 120-11-1 [2016-04-30 02:31:46] 12eat it [2016-04-30 02:31:49] <_2257> 7i was gonna vote y [2016-04-30 02:31:50] 0-124887855-1 [2016-04-30 02:31:51] * DragonFreak eats it [2016-04-30 02:31:52] n [2016-04-30 02:31:53] <_2257> 7then i changed my mind [2016-04-30 02:32:03] <_2257> 7because people can just use the write in box [2016-04-30 02:32:10] 3ok, baby park remains without a qualifier [2016-04-30 02:32:11] tbh im more inclined to y this but one part of me feels like [2016-04-30 02:32:16] in the end, nobody will care [2016-04-30 02:32:17] so [2016-04-30 02:32:23] if people care [2016-04-30 02:32:28] then god gave us the writein box for a reason [2016-04-30 02:32:36] 3I agree with turb [2016-04-30 02:32:38] its more than that [2016-04-30 02:32:39] true [2016-04-30 02:32:41] 3god was very generous [2016-04-30 02:32:42] god gave us baby park [2016-04-30 02:32:55] its up to us to interpret [2016-04-30 02:33:07] thanks poochy [2016-04-30 02:33:18] 3are there any other things about M4? [2016-04-30 02:33:19] 9,1I would still propose Rainbow Road (N64) get an identifier because the racing experience in MK64 and MK8 are /totally different/. [2016-04-30 02:33:32] 1-7419033407-1 [2016-04-30 02:33:33] 3Rainbow Road has an identifier [2016-04-30 02:33:42] rainbow road (n64) is alreadly i plying its the mk8 version [2016-04-30 02:33:44] yes i got the entire population to vote [2016-04-30 02:33:51] *implying [2016-04-30 02:33:53] 9,1Rainbow Road (N64) is in Mario Kart 64 and Mario Kart 8. [2016-04-30 02:33:53] 3oh [2016-04-30 02:33:56] the one vote on the left is yours pi [2016-04-30 02:33:57] 3god [2016-04-30 02:34:00] what [2016-04-30 02:34:01] 3what the fuck nintendo [2016-04-30 02:34:04] no po [2016-04-30 02:34:04] rainbow road (n64 (64)) [2016-04-30 02:34:06] *pi [2016-04-30 02:34:08] silly [2016-04-30 02:34:12] why [2016-04-30 02:34:16] <_2257> 7well [2016-04-30 02:34:17] else itd just be rainbow road [2016-04-30 02:34:20] <_2257> 7we can just call it [2016-04-30 02:34:21] obviously [2016-04-30 02:34:26] <_2257> 7rainbow road (mk64) [2016-04-30 02:34:31] <_2257> 7thats unambiguous, right [2016-04-30 02:34:33] im back from playing [2016-04-30 02:34:35] i lost [2016-04-30 02:34:37] it was tragic [2016-04-30 02:34:40] rainbow road (64) (the long version) [2016-04-30 02:34:41] what are we up to [2016-04-30 02:34:42] per 22 [2016-04-30 02:34:42] ripp [2016-04-30 02:34:50] rainbow road (mk64 (mk64)) [2016-04-30 02:34:53] im not really sure when this got added to the award [2016-04-30 02:35:03] i feel like we meant to put on the n64 version in particular, but im not sure [2016-04-30 02:35:04] 9,1The Mario Kart 64 version has rails and is long and boring to race on, but the Mario Kart 8 version of the racecourse only has one lap, incorporates multiple boosts and has almost no railing to protect you from going out of bounds. [2016-04-30 02:35:11] last year or the year before i think [2016-04-30 02:35:12] also 22's would be fine [2016-04-30 02:35:13] it was a thing last year [2016-04-30 02:35:16] should i find the logs for it [2016-04-30 02:35:18] wherever on not to add indentifers [2016-04-30 02:35:20] and not an addition this year i think [2016-04-30 02:35:30] but im not sure when mk8 came out [2016-04-30 02:35:36] rainbow road (N64) (MK8) [2016-04-30 02:35:38] 3lets just [2016-04-30 02:35:39] 9,1MK8 came out in 2014. [2016-04-30 02:35:40] to clarify? [2016-04-30 02:35:49] 3do what 2257 said and let voters draw their own conclusion [2016-04-30 02:35:57] 3[02:34] _2257 rainbow road (mk64) [2016-04-30 02:35:58] yes let's [2016-04-30 02:35:59] sounds good to me [2016-04-30 02:36:00] or that [2016-04-30 02:36:19] if people write in like "the MK8 version of n64 rainbow road [2016-04-30 02:36:20] <_2257> 7i know this is stupid for me of all people to say, but are you sure tahts a good idea [2016-04-30 02:36:23] " then we can count that [2016-04-30 02:36:24] i guess [2016-04-30 02:36:31] <_2257> 7it kind of sounds like the mk8 version is more exciting [2016-04-30 02:36:38] it is [2016-04-30 02:36:39] <_2257> 7i hated n64 n64 rainbow road [2016-04-30 02:36:41] it is [2016-04-30 02:36:43] 9,1It is. [2016-04-30 02:36:43] a lot more exiting [2016-04-30 02:36:43] <_2257> 7lol [2016-04-30 02:36:49] *exciting [2016-04-30 02:36:51] the mk8 version is definitely better i think [2016-04-30 02:36:52] 9,1It is way more exciting. [2016-04-30 02:36:55] 12i didn't like the mk8 version [2016-04-30 02:37:01] the mario kart 8 version is much much better [2016-04-30 02:37:05] 9,1Why, because it only had the one lap? [2016-04-30 02:37:07] but i don't really care whether we put that on here or leave it up to voters to think with the big writein box [2016-04-30 02:37:07] 12partly because i hate n64 rainbow road in general [2016-04-30 02:37:09] 3is there anything else [2016-04-30 02:37:10] n64 rr is 10 minutes of nothing but some color [2016-04-30 02:37:13] not saying the n64 version was bad [2016-04-30 02:37:14] the mk8 version is the good one, remember smasher? [2016-04-30 02:37:21] wii u actually has things happening during less time [2016-04-30 02:37:29] also daily reminder that the oc rr in mk8 sucks [2016-04-30 02:37:32] i think this whole debacle about rainbow road is the only concern left [2016-04-30 02:37:33] 12a better version of a bad track is still a bad track [2016-04-30 02:37:34] for M4 [2016-04-30 02:37:57] no lol [2016-04-30 02:37:58] <_2257> 7well we already nominated it [2016-04-30 02:37:58] none of the other courses differ highly in content [2016-04-30 02:38:04] <_2257> 7clearly somone thought it wasnt a bad track [2016-04-30 02:38:05] between remakes [2016-04-30 02:38:05] 3ok [2016-04-30 02:38:15] worst rainbow road in mk8 is snes rainbow road [2016-04-30 02:38:17] 3let me call a vote so we can get anywhere [2016-04-30 02:38:18] ribbon road in mk8 is one of my favorite tracks in the game and it used to be abysmal [2016-04-30 02:38:21] 12yeah it's actually a pretty popular track for whatever reason [2016-04-30 02:38:24] as per mksc standards [2016-04-30 02:38:27] official [2016-04-30 02:38:31] it beat two courses with just wrtiins [2016-04-30 02:38:47] somehow [2016-04-30 02:38:49] i think this may be a case where its better to name the system than the game [2016-04-30 02:38:52] for parentheses [2016-04-30 02:38:58] itll make this process easier [2016-04-30 02:39:04] 3Which version of N64 Rainbow Road is more deserving of the nomination? (MK64/MK8/both/a) [2016-04-30 02:39:04] also best version of n64 rainbow road is in f zero x tbh [2016-04-30 02:39:07] 9,1MK8 [2016-04-30 02:39:09] mk8 [2016-04-30 02:39:11] mk8 [2016-04-30 02:39:12] mk8 [2016-04-30 02:39:13] mk8 [2016-04-30 02:39:17] a [2016-04-30 02:39:20] a [2016-04-30 02:39:24] well i guess if we're goig to do it this way [2016-04-30 02:39:28] mk8 [2016-04-30 02:39:30] <_2257> 7a [2016-04-30 02:39:31] 12a [2016-04-30 02:39:34] 8 [2016-04-30 02:39:37] 3a [2016-04-30 02:39:41] but what will the identifier be [2016-04-30 02:39:49] MK8 [2016-04-30 02:39:49] a [2016-04-30 02:39:54] N64 Rainbow Road (MK8) [2016-04-30 02:39:55] ? [2016-04-30 02:39:55] whichever gets the most votes ltq [2016-04-30 02:39:55] 3what's the official track name? [2016-04-30 02:39:56] N64 Rainbow Road (MK8) [2016-04-30 02:39:57] rainbow road (N64) (MK8) [2016-04-30 02:40:00] maybe [2016-04-30 02:40:02] a [2016-04-30 02:40:06] <_2257> 7awhat's it called in the game [2016-04-30 02:40:07] or that [2016-04-30 02:40:08] 9,1turb and ltq are correct [2016-04-30 02:40:08] it's called N64 rainbow road in-game in mk8 im fairly sure [2016-04-30 02:40:10] also what turb said [2016-04-30 02:40:11] uh guys [2016-04-30 02:40:13] <_2257> 7oh good [2016-04-30 02:40:17] sorry misread [2016-04-30 02:40:21] I'ts called Rainbow Road [2016-04-30 02:40:23] <_2257> 7if it ended up being what freakworld said i was gonna be sad [2016-04-30 02:40:25] <_2257> 7that looks moronic [2016-04-30 02:40:28] with N64 small printed above [2016-04-30 02:40:29] 3ok [2016-04-30 02:40:31] its not i think [2016-04-30 02:40:32] 3then it will be N64 Rainbow Road (MK8) [2016-04-30 02:40:33] i'd like to point something out [2016-04-30 02:40:34] <_2257> 7(sorry freakworld) [2016-04-30 02:40:41] i just checked awards 2013 [2016-04-30 02:40:43] but we used the identifiers everywhere else didnt we [2016-04-30 02:40:50] like that i mean [2016-04-30 02:40:54] the track that won was Rainbow Road MK7 [2016-04-30 02:40:55] so [2016-04-30 02:40:56] 126-0-7 [2016-04-30 02:40:57] my guess is [2016-04-30 02:41:07] http://www.mariowiki.com/images/9/9f/MK8-_N64_Rainbow_Road.PNG [2016-04-30 02:41:15] 12*0-6-0-7 [2016-04-30 02:41:18] this year's nominee probably refers to the mk8 course [2016-04-30 02:41:21] mk7 rainbow road is the best one tbh [2016-04-30 02:41:35] tbh i have to agree [2016-04-30 02:41:38] ? [2016-04-30 02:41:43] what do you mean by this year's nominee [2016-04-30 02:41:44] 3[02:40] Gabumon then it will be N64 Rainbow Road (MK8) [2016-04-30 02:41:52] 3is this acceptable? [2016-04-30 02:41:53] snes rainbow road is great as well though imo, especially the mk7 version [2016-04-30 02:41:55] this year or last year's i dunno [2016-04-30 02:41:57] y [2016-04-30 02:42:00] that's good edo [2016-04-30 02:42:00] what i mean to say [2016-04-30 02:42:03] y [2016-04-30 02:42:04] looks fine [2016-04-30 02:42:05] 9,1y [2016-04-30 02:42:06] <_2257> 7regarding the identifiers, i think this is the first time we're specifically nominating a retro track [2016-04-30 02:42:14] it's VERY unlikely the n64 version was in mind [2016-04-30 02:42:16] so uh [2016-04-30 02:42:20] <_2257> 7rather than the "nitro" track it was based on [2016-04-30 02:42:22] it is [2016-04-30 02:42:24] let's go with mk8 i agree with that [2016-04-30 02:42:25] well i mean [2016-04-30 02:42:29] i dont really know if [2016-04-30 02:42:34] the mk7 version has any bearing on this [2016-04-30 02:42:35] 3ok [2016-04-30 02:42:36] a question [2016-04-30 02:42:37] <_2257> 7thats why all the others use parentheses [2016-04-30 02:42:39] like, that's a completely different track [2016-04-30 02:42:44] we could possibly label it as a nitro track [2016-04-30 02:42:45] 3lets move on and never speak of M4 again [2016-04-30 02:42:55] not directly [2016-04-30 02:42:56] what we're talking about is the version of N64 rainbow road featured in MK8 [2016-04-30 02:42:57] one more thing [2016-04-30 02:42:58] and ok [2016-04-30 02:42:58] 3M5: Favorite DK Game (Donkey Kong Country, Donkey Kong Country 2, Donkey Kong Country 3, Donkey Kong 64, Diddy Kong Racing, Donkey Kong Country Returns/Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D, Donkey Kong Jr. Math, Donkey Kong (Arcade), Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, Donkey Kong Jungle Beat, Donkey Kong ‘94 (Game Boy)) [2016-04-30 02:43:00] im fine with that [2016-04-30 02:43:01] oh no guys god [2016-04-30 02:43:03] please [2016-04-30 02:43:04] are we renaming bowser's castle (64) to N64 Bowser's Castle o- [2016-04-30 02:43:06] hey [2016-04-30 02:43:09] Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest [2016-04-30 02:43:10] Bowser's Castle (N64) [2016-04-30 02:43:10] <_2257> 7no freakworld [2016-04-30 02:43:13] with 's [2016-04-30 02:43:16] okay [2016-04-30 02:43:17] Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble! [2016-04-30 02:43:21] <_2257> 7because the nominee is not the retro track in mkds or whatever [2016-04-30 02:43:23] thats all [2016-04-30 02:43:23] just asking [2016-04-30 02:43:27] <_2257> 7its the regular track in mk64 [2016-04-30 02:43:30] mkwii, and okay [2016-04-30 02:43:47] anyway i think the only issues here are adding the subtitles that bones mentioned [2016-04-30 02:43:56] 12this one should be find with the full title changes [2016-04-30 02:43:58] 12fine [2016-04-30 02:44:06] i approve of the subtitles because kongquest is a great pun [2016-04-30 02:44:09] -->| Meta_Knight (androirc@172.56.ts.yh) has joined #mwikiawards [2016-04-30 02:44:10] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o Meta_Knight by ChanServ [2016-04-30 02:44:44] i should post the sheet with the naming ideas for that game again because its topkek but i think i recently did that [2016-04-30 02:44:52] 3ok [2016-04-30 02:44:55] 3subtitles added [2016-04-30 02:44:59] "Diddy and Female with Hair" [2016-04-30 02:44:59] woo [2016-04-30 02:45:15] 12Diddy's Game Name Searc [2016-04-30 02:45:17] 12h [2016-04-30 02:45:38] 3M6: Favorite Wario Game (Wario Land, Wario Land 3, Wario Land 4, Mega Party Game$!, Twisted, Touched, Smooth Moves, Master of Disguise, Shake It!, D.I.Y., Wario World, Game & Wario, Wario Land 2) [2016-04-30 02:45:43] ok first of all [2016-04-30 02:45:53] where the hell is the first warioware game in that list???? [2016-04-30 02:46:00] 3Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3 [2016-04-30 02:46:04] <_2257> 7do these also have subtitles or is that just in japanese [2016-04-30 02:46:08] should we replace mega party games with the original? [2016-04-30 02:46:11] >>>warioware edo [2016-04-30 02:46:18] oh [2016-04-30 02:46:20] wait [2016-04-30 02:46:21] nvm [2016-04-30 02:46:23] NVM [2016-04-30 02:46:24] 12wat [2016-04-30 02:46:26] second of all [2016-04-30 02:46:31] they are essentially the same game [2016-04-30 02:46:33] 9,1oh [2016-04-30 02:46:34] WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Microgame$! [2016-04-30 02:46:34] 9,1it's [2016-04-30 02:46:39] im completely brain afk today [2016-04-30 02:46:39] 9,1Super Mario Land 3: Wario Land [2016-04-30 02:46:40] so why are we using the remake [2016-04-30 02:46:41] 12half of these need more titles lol [2016-04-30 02:46:48] also yeah it is pi [2016-04-30 02:46:49] WarioWare: D.I.Y. [2016-04-30 02:46:54] 12the remake added more to it i think [2016-04-30 02:47:08] WarioWare: Twisted! [2016-04-30 02:47:14] WarioWare: Touched! [2016-04-30 02:47:15] 12i've never personally played the remake but maybe we could like [2016-04-30 02:47:17] yeah but isnt the gba version what everyone played [2016-04-30 02:47:19] 12make it both>? [2016-04-30 02:47:19] and not the [2016-04-30 02:47:24] gcn version [2016-04-30 02:47:27] tailmon the remake was just a party version [2016-04-30 02:47:28] 3http://www.mariowiki.com/Wario_Land:_Super_Mario_Land_3 [2016-04-30 02:47:32] 9,1oh [2016-04-30 02:47:34] 9,1derp [2016-04-30 02:47:35] 12as in change it to [2016-04-30 02:47:35] didnt have any the story [2016-04-30 02:47:37] 3the wario land is first [2016-04-30 02:47:39] WarioWare: Smooth Moves [2016-04-30 02:47:42] 9,1still [2016-04-30 02:47:49] 9,1it should be Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3 [2016-04-30 02:47:51] WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Party Game$! [2016-04-30 02:48:05] Wario: Master of Disguise [2016-04-30 02:48:40] Wario Land: Shake It [2016-04-30 02:48:52] 12WarioWare Inc.: Mega Microgame$!/WarioWare Inc.: Mega Party Game$! [2016-04-30 02:48:55] 12god that's long [2016-04-30 02:49:04] yes smasher let's do that i agree [2016-04-30 02:49:06] y [2016-04-30 02:49:08] Daily Reminder that that is called Wario Land: The Shake Dimension over here [2016-04-30 02:49:09] those are different games [2016-04-30 02:49:11] 120-0-0 [2016-04-30 02:49:19] y [2016-04-30 02:49:25] gba/gcn respectively [2016-04-30 02:49:26] 12i don't have any knowledge of the gamecube remake so i have no idea if this is a good idea [2016-04-30 02:49:29] like i dunno [2016-04-30 02:49:34] is it a remake [2016-04-30 02:49:35] im pretty sure its like identical besidses multiplayer [2016-04-30 02:49:35] idk either [2016-04-30 02:49:36] ? [2016-04-30 02:49:38] the gba one should at least be mentionned somehow [2016-04-30 02:49:40] 12it is [2016-04-30 02:49:41] ive only played the original original [2016-04-30 02:49:45] we need to make sure of it probably [2016-04-30 02:50:05] -->| N64dude (N64dude@wpo34204-crmc6-7-1-zaqb0.26-6.cable.virginm.net) has joined #mwikiawards [2016-04-30 02:50:10] 12has anyone here ever played the gcn one ever [2016-04-30 02:50:33] not me [2016-04-30 02:50:40] 9,1not me [2016-04-30 02:50:43] the gamecube version has multiplayer mode [2016-04-30 02:50:46] and like [2016-04-30 02:50:57] i played it once [2016-04-30 02:50:59] WarioWare, Inc. Mega Party Game$! [..] is a game for the Nintendo GameCube [..]. It reuses all the microgames from the original game WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Microgame$!, but Mega Party Game$! focuses on multiplayer in particular. [2016-04-30 02:51:01] the only gcn wario game i want to play is wario world [2016-04-30 02:51:13] i dont remember much of it [2016-04-30 02:51:19] i think jimmy had a sports theme or something [2016-04-30 02:51:21] 3Favorite Wario Game (Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3, Wario Land 3, Wario Land 4, WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Party Game$!, WarioWare: Twisted, WarioWare: Touched, WarioWare: Smooth Moves, Wario: Master of Disguise, Wario Land: Shake It, WarioWare: D.I.Y., Wario World, Game & Wario, Wario Land 2) [2016-04-30 02:51:31] it had different modes or whatever [2016-04-30 02:51:32] its just a sister game to the original [2016-04-30 02:51:41] -->| SonicMario (Mibbit@173.6.ynt.jzl) has joined #mwikiawards [2016-04-30 02:51:47] 12ok so if it just includes every game in the original [2016-04-30 02:51:51] why we include over the original ill never know [2016-04-30 02:51:52] Twisted! [2016-04-30 02:51:54] 12it's probably safe to make the nominee both [2016-04-30 02:51:55] with ! [2016-04-30 02:51:56] you won't find "Johny's Survival Fever" in the gba one [2016-04-30 02:52:08] Touched! the same [2016-04-30 02:52:08] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o SonicMario by ChanServ [2016-04-30 02:52:17] it uses the same microgames, but it's still a mode that's unique to the gcn version [2016-04-30 02:52:27] also uh [2016-04-30 02:52:30] 3guys, we're really not debating which nominees to add/remove right now, only how they will be referred to on the polls [2016-04-30 02:52:30] 12if there's enough differences we can always add the original by itself [2016-04-30 02:52:34] were leaving out warioware snapped right [2016-04-30 02:52:37] you know [2016-04-30 02:52:40] the dsi ware thing [2016-04-30 02:52:47] Ok. [2016-04-30 02:53:02] did anyone like snapped though [2016-04-30 02:53:06] did anyone even play that one [2016-04-30 02:53:08] no [2016-04-30 02:53:09] http://www.mariowiki.com/Warioware_snapped [2016-04-30 02:53:13] did it get write-ins [2016-04-30 02:53:25] <_2257> 7i played it [2016-04-30 02:53:28] 12i don't think we'd even consider adding snapped [2016-04-30 02:53:29] <_2257> 7it was mediocre [2016-04-30 02:53:38] 3ok, so [2016-04-30 02:53:41] i thought about getting it once but didnt [2016-04-30 02:53:46] 3I assume the titles are ok now [2016-04-30 02:53:54] 12yeah the titles are ok [2016-04-30 02:53:54] just the exclamation marks [2016-04-30 02:54:02] 12besides the !'s [2016-04-30 02:54:15] 12its just the gba/gcn discussion [2016-04-30 02:54:28] 3!s are added [2016-04-30 02:54:38] 3M7: Favorite Yoshi Game (Yoshi’s Island, Yoshi’s Island DS, Tetris Attack, Yoshi’s Story, Yoshi Touch & Go, Yoshi’s Cookie, Yoshi, Yoshi Topsy-Turvy, Yoshi’s New Island, Yoshi’s Woolly World) [2016-04-30 02:54:48] 9,1Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island [2016-04-30 02:54:50] 12ok then [2016-04-30 02:54:54] i dont think the gba/gcn thing is that much of an issue honestly [2016-04-30 02:54:59] WL: Shake It! [2016-04-30 02:55:42] might as well do super mario world 2: yoshi's island [2016-04-30 02:55:49] |<-- Rick_Sanchez has left irc.darkmyst.org:6697 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [2016-04-30 02:55:51] Wario Land 2 = II [2016-04-30 02:55:56] that be it i think [2016-04-30 02:55:57] the dsi shop description for ww snapped is great [2016-04-30 02:56:09] is wl3 not wario land iii [2016-04-30 02:56:13] Wario™ returns with more manic action made especially for the Nintendo DSi system! [2016-04-30 02:56:20] <_2257> 7apparently its not [2016-04-30 02:56:20] >Wario™ [2016-04-30 02:56:24] <_2257> 7i just looked that up [2016-04-30 02:56:26] anyway i think M7 is alright now [2016-04-30 02:56:33] 12™ [2016-04-30 02:56:36] 3ok [2016-04-30 02:56:41] should we acknowledge advance in YI somehow [2016-04-30 02:56:48] Wario Land 3 is '3' can confirm [2016-04-30 02:56:49] oh pi already daid it [2016-04-30 02:56:49] like, show that it covers both [2016-04-30 02:56:53] <_2257> 7sma3? [2016-04-30 02:56:55] how did i miss it [2016-04-30 02:56:56] 2 is referred to as II in the title [2016-04-30 02:56:57] yeah [2016-04-30 02:56:57] suggesting that we could add indicators on yoshi [2016-04-30 02:57:03] <_2257> 7i feel like people can guess that [2016-04-30 02:57:06] -->| Rick_Sanchez (chatzilla@105.103.wvr.vnk) has joined #mwikiawards [2016-04-30 02:57:06] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o Rick_Sanchez by ChanServ [2016-04-30 02:57:08] the nes puzzle game [2016-04-30 02:57:10] it adds six new levels and everything [2016-04-30 02:57:14] <_2257> 7if not, they'll write it in and we'll count them together [2016-04-30 02:57:31] 3I concur with 2257 [2016-04-30 02:57:36] per 22 and edo [2016-04-30 02:57:54] per [2016-04-30 02:57:59] ok [2016-04-30 02:58:02] 3ok [2016-04-30 02:58:15] 3M8: Favorite Art Style (Retro Style sprites, Yoshi’s Island style, Donkey Kong Country style, Main series 3D style, Paper Mario style, Mario & Luigi style, Yoshi’s Story style, Yoshi’s Woolly World style, Wario Land: Shake It! style, Super Mario RPG style, Super Mario Strikers style) [2016-04-30 02:58:34] i think it should be Retro style sprites [2016-04-30 02:58:41] unless there is some specific brand of "retro" [2016-04-30 02:58:58] do we need the word "style" added at the end of each nominee [2016-04-30 02:59:08] <_2257> 7what do we mean by retro, anyway [2016-04-30 02:59:10] yeah thats a good point actually [2016-04-30 02:59:17] 3http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=36476.msg1824737#msg1824737 [2016-04-30 02:59:26] 3this award refers to this [2016-04-30 02:59:29] probably before sm64 [2016-04-30 02:59:30] Does the type of apostrophe matter in "Yoshi's" [2016-04-30 02:59:36] <_2257> 7just anything that's got an intentionally old fashioned appearance? [2016-04-30 02:59:38] |<-- Smg2daisy has left irc.darkmyst.org:6697 (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [2016-04-30 02:59:39] at least that's what i would consider it [2016-04-30 02:59:52] <_2257> 7i doubt it ltq [2016-04-30 02:59:57] <_2257> 7im sure polldaddy can handle both [2016-04-30 02:59:59] 12would warioware make sense for this [2016-04-30 03:00:02] for copy paste it does [2016-04-30 03:00:03] -->| Smg2daisy (Mibbit@110.159.qv.nrs) has joined #mwikiawards [2016-04-30 03:00:09] the wiki has them as ' [2016-04-30 03:00:21] doesnt correct them [2016-04-30 03:00:29] <_2257> 7thats because curly quotes fuck up on the wiki [2016-04-30 03:00:32] <_2257> 7sometimes [2016-04-30 03:00:33] i dont really know if warioware is different enough [2016-04-30 03:00:53] <_2257> 7but theres no reason that would happen on polldaddy [2016-04-30 03:00:53] but i figure if people want it on then we have room [2016-04-30 03:01:31] 12i wasn't really sure either that was just something i thought of before [2016-04-30 03:01:54] okay the style at the end of each nominee really looks awkward [2016-04-30 03:02:00] -->| Glitchy (Mibbit@g88-78-237-623.home.cgocable.net) has joined #mwikiawards [2016-04-30 03:02:03] 3what could we use instead of retro style sprites [2016-04-30 03:02:07] 3if its confusing [2016-04-30 03:02:23] what is that referring to again [2016-04-30 03:02:25] <_2257> 7idk because im still not sure what it means [2016-04-30 03:02:30] 3http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=36476.msg1824737#msg1824737 [2016-04-30 03:02:31] everyone would understand 8-bit [2016-04-30 03:02:34] it could be something like 8-bit sprites [2016-04-30 03:02:35] but nnnnnnnnnnn [2016-04-30 03:02:36] <_2257> 7is it things taht were limited by the technology [2016-04-30 03:02:39] thats kinda cliche and wrong most of the time [2016-04-30 03:02:43] 3but it includes 16 bit too [2016-04-30 03:02:46] <_2257> 7or things that are intentionally aping them [2016-04-30 03:02:49] <_2257> 7like [2016-04-30 03:02:52] wow [2016-04-30 03:02:53] <_2257> 7super mario maker [2016-04-30 03:02:54] okay [2016-04-30 03:03:03] why are we including smw with the 8 bit sprites [2016-04-30 03:03:09] srs [2016-04-30 03:03:10] 3read the post [2016-04-30 03:03:14] <_2257> 7which has a lot of new graphics that intentionally look nes or snes-ish [2016-04-30 03:03:20] i did [2016-04-30 03:03:21] 3this has all already been discussed once [2016-04-30 03:03:35] its too long ago tho [2016-04-30 03:03:38] :( [2016-04-30 03:03:40] <_2257> 7ok so not super mario maker then [2016-04-30 03:03:52] i cant remember if it was opposed to this before [2016-04-30 03:04:25] <_2257> 7idk, is "main series 2d" confusing? [2016-04-30 03:04:32] <_2257> 7it matches the other generic one [2016-04-30 03:04:52] 3I think it should contain the word sprites [2016-04-30 03:04:54] the only real deviation from "main series" is donkey kong i guess [2016-04-30 03:04:55] it sounds fine but retro style sprites sounded fine to me too vOv [2016-04-30 03:05:00] i'm fine with either title [2016-04-30 03:05:02] i think retro is fine [2016-04-30 03:05:07] i feel like they convey the point well enough [2016-04-30 03:05:12] it took me a moment to remember what it was at first [2016-04-30 03:05:12] main series 2d might refer to the 2.5d games a bit [2016-04-30 03:05:17] like the capitalization made me think retro studios [2016-04-30 03:05:22] retro style sprites sounds okay considering the fact that the classification makes no sense to me [2016-04-30 03:05:25] xD [2016-04-30 03:05:27] 3lets keep what we originally agreed to then [2016-04-30 03:05:29] 12personally i thought retro was fine [2016-04-30 03:06:01] it is really [2016-04-30 03:06:27] 3M9: Most anticipated Upcoming Game is still on hold until E3 happened [2016-04-30 03:06:39] 3so we are skipping that for now [2016-04-30 03:06:45] it's looking unlikely this year, anyway [2016-04-30 03:06:47] Paper Mario: Toilet Paper Trouble [2016-04-30 03:06:57] we also have the dlc back up award [2016-04-30 03:06:59] so no issue there [2016-04-30 03:07:20] <_2257> 7paper mario: toilet splash has already been announced [2016-04-30 03:07:28] 3M10: Favorite Partner Developer (AlphaDream, Intelligent Systems, HAL Laboratory, Hudson Soft, Camelot Software Planning, Next Level Games, Namco Bandai Games, Good-Feel, Square-Enix, SEGA, Retro Studios, Rare Ltd.) [2016-04-30 03:07:30] |<-- mekip has left irc.darkmyst.org:6697 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [2016-04-30 03:07:36] it chances of happening is like 1% after this years news [2016-04-30 03:08:00] *weeks [2016-04-30 03:08:18] my expectations for nintendo e3 are literally [2016-04-30 03:08:26] "nintendo is going to be BTFO" [2016-04-30 03:08:26] "Bandai Namco Entertainment" [2016-04-30 03:08:41] zelda [2016-04-30 03:08:41] is that the name of the developer in particular [2016-04-30 03:08:42] 12goodbye nintendo [2016-04-30 03:08:52] didn't we eliminate this one? or was that just internal development team? [2016-04-30 03:09:07] i was under the impression we went with namco bandai games because that was their name [2016-04-30 03:09:08] nx is the new dreamcast [2016-04-30 03:09:11] "Square Enix" [2016-04-30 03:09:14] 3I faintly remember eliminating this as well, but it is on the list [2016-04-30 03:09:25] what [2016-04-30 03:09:33] |<-- Glitchy has left irc.darkmyst.org:6697 (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [2016-04-30 03:09:33] 12we didn't get rid of it? [2016-04-30 03:09:36] it isnt officially Square-Enix? [2016-04-30 03:09:38] ltq spuare made smrpg, mario hoops and mario sports mix [2016-04-30 03:09:39] "Sega" [2016-04-30 03:09:41] really [2016-04-30 03:09:46] *square [2016-04-30 03:09:50] pretty sure we went with nuking internal dev team [2016-04-30 03:09:52] mario and sonic [2016-04-30 03:09:55] because that was a suggested award [2016-04-30 03:10:03] i can't really remember what we did with this [2016-04-30 03:10:05] let me see [2016-04-30 03:10:16] 12there were people that didn't like this award, but no one actually made a move to get rid of it [2016-04-30 03:10:19] personally i don't really feel very strongly about favorite partner developer, but it's better at least than interal dev team [2016-04-30 03:10:33] its actually officially Square Enix [2016-04-30 03:10:35] okay [2016-04-30 03:10:35] we added Rare in ther first meeting [2016-04-30 03:10:46] I'd rather not remove this award [2016-04-30 03:10:47] 7:20:31 PM [2016-04-30 03:10:49] what's the reason [2016-04-30 03:10:52] 12and we don't really have a backup since e3's probably not happening [2016-04-30 03:10:55] and then we didnt nuke it [2016-04-30 03:10:58] and yeah [2016-04-30 03:10:59] 3ok [2016-04-30 03:11:01] the dlc award is for M8 [2016-04-30 03:11:04] M9* [2016-04-30 03:11:15] i think this award is good besides ltq's title corrections [2016-04-30 03:11:47] 3ok [2016-04-30 03:11:51] 12me too [2016-04-30 03:12:04] 3M11: Favorite Major Character (Mario, Luigi, Peach, Yoshi, Wario, Donkey Kong, Bowser, Rosalina, Bowser Jr., Toad) [2016-04-30 03:12:14] 3I see nothing wrong [2016-04-30 03:12:16] seems fine [2016-04-30 03:12:20] 12skip [2016-04-30 03:12:26] Princess Peach [2016-04-30 03:12:43] yup [2016-04-30 03:12:47] i think Peach is just fine [2016-04-30 03:12:56] we're not calling him King Bowser or Princess Rosalina [2016-04-30 03:12:58] y [2016-04-30 03:13:05] princess is just her title [2016-04-30 03:13:05] it is, but were going official names everywhere else too so [2016-04-30 03:13:07] 3well I added the princess anyway because it doesnt hurt [2016-04-30 03:13:12] 3like [2016-04-30 03:13:29] 3princess is kind of more than just a generic title for her [2016-04-30 03:13:32] 3she is kind of [2016-04-30 03:13:35] 3THE princess [2016-04-30 03:13:36] <_2257> 7rosalina isnt a princess anyway, shes a god [2016-04-30 03:13:39] 12i felt peach was just fine but i guess it doesn't hurt [2016-04-30 03:13:41] 3and often addressed as Princess Peach [2016-04-30 03:13:48] yeah well bowser's a king >:( [2016-04-30 03:13:54] 3whereas bowser is mostly just called Bowser [2016-04-30 03:14:08] I agree with Edo [2016-04-30 03:14:15] she is often officially referred to as princess peach by nintnedo [2016-04-30 03:14:20] 3yes [2016-04-30 03:14:22] 12fair enough [2016-04-30 03:14:25] rosalina is everything nintendo pushes her to be [2016-04-30 03:14:25] 3anyway [2016-04-30 03:14:36] * Rick_Sanchez sues everyone [2016-04-30 03:14:41] 9,1uh [2016-04-30 03:14:48] overruled [2016-04-30 03:14:48] 9,1the Wiki page for Peach is 'Princess Peach' [2016-04-30 03:14:49] soz [2016-04-30 03:14:53] 3M12: Favorite Supporting Character (Daisy, Waluigi, Toadsworth, Diddy Kong, E. Gadd, Toadette, Captain Toad, Birdo, Kamek, Poochy) [2016-04-30 03:15:11] once again Princess Daisy [2016-04-30 03:15:23] otherwise this is fine [2016-04-30 03:15:24] 3yes [2016-04-30 03:15:26] <_2257> 7if we're doing that, we might as well have professor egadd too [2016-04-30 03:15:28] <_2257> 7right [2016-04-30 03:15:33] Do we want Professor E. Gadd [2016-04-30 03:15:34] per 22 as well [2016-04-30 03:15:37] 12isn't e. gadd als--yeah that [2016-04-30 03:15:38] prof-yeah [2016-04-30 03:15:44] about to say that myself [2016-04-30 03:15:46] 12no one else really has a title [2016-04-30 03:15:54] 9,1should we go all the way [2016-04-30 03:15:56] Professor Elvin Gadd [2016-04-30 03:15:57] 3yes to the prof [2016-04-30 03:15:58] when did we add poochy [2016-04-30 03:16:00] 9,1Professor Elvin Gadd [2016-04-30 03:16:03] lmao [2016-04-30 03:16:06] 12this year [2016-04-30 03:16:07] well [2016-04-30 03:16:08] 9,1fw: this year [2016-04-30 03:16:11] <_2257> 7i feel like e. gadd is more [2016-04-30 03:16:12] how often is he referred to elvin gadd [2016-04-30 03:16:14] i dont remember any of these decisions ever happened [2016-04-30 03:16:15] <_2257> 7correct [2016-04-30 03:16:20] hardly ever [2016-04-30 03:16:21] the logic is to call the characters how they're usually referred to in-game [2016-04-30 03:16:22] e. gadd is how i see it spelled in like almost all official material [2016-04-30 03:16:23] its like my memory stops working after 2 am [2016-04-30 03:16:23] <_2257> 7for the same reason we're going with bowser over king bowser [2016-04-30 03:16:27] yeah, per 22 [2016-04-30 03:16:28] <_2257> 7its waht hes usually called [2016-04-30 03:16:29] i think he was named elvin maybe once [2016-04-30 03:16:32] tbh that really the case [2016-04-30 03:16:36] i don't really know if poochy deserves to be in there [2016-04-30 03:16:39] Professor E. Gadd is how he's referred to most of the time [2016-04-30 03:16:42] he does [2016-04-30 03:16:42] he doesn't really feel like a side character [2016-04-30 03:16:43] more like a cameo [2016-04-30 03:16:47] * _2257 7throws nabber out [2016-04-30 03:16:49] nabber we already discussed this at length in the previous meetings [2016-04-30 03:16:53] 3yes [2016-04-30 03:16:54] probably because of the pun [2016-04-30 03:16:55] 3we did [2016-04-30 03:16:55] forgive me lord for i have sinned [2016-04-30 03:16:58] but yeah [2016-04-30 03:17:01] wiki's title is Professor Elvin Gadd [2016-04-30 03:17:01] cameo in his own home series? [2016-04-30 03:17:03] what?> [2016-04-30 03:17:12] 12just remove all of the awards [2016-04-30 03:17:17] you know go with professor e gadd [2016-04-30 03:17:18] i agree with smasher [2016-04-30 03:17:20] We should just leave it at e. gadd [2016-04-30 03:17:21] i agree we should leave poochy no matter what the discussion was last time [2016-04-30 03:17:23] better name [2016-04-30 03:17:35] Because that's what most people recognize [2016-04-30 03:17:49] tempted to make a tpp to have it moved through the wiki [2016-04-30 03:17:57] 3well ok [2016-04-30 03:17:59] 12i don't think e. gadd is called elvin enough for that to be needed [2016-04-30 03:18:05] 12unlike princess and professor [2016-04-30 03:18:06] 3Professor E. Gadd [2016-04-30 03:18:14] 12y [2016-04-30 03:18:16] 9,1y [2016-04-30 03:18:19] y [2016-04-30 03:18:21] Y [2016-04-30 03:18:22] <_2257> 7are we voting? [2016-04-30 03:18:24] <_2257> 7y [2016-04-30 03:18:26] a [2016-04-30 03:18:26] n [2016-04-30 03:18:28] 12probably not [2016-04-30 03:18:29] y [2016-04-30 03:18:41] 3ok [2016-04-30 03:18:42] 12i just didn't feel like typing out three more letter [2016-04-30 03:18:47] y [2016-04-30 03:18:48] y [2016-04-30 03:18:48] y [2016-04-30 03:18:53] 3M13: Favorite Level Theme (Grasslands, Desert, Snow/Ice, Mountain, Underground, Beach, Sky, Jungle, Space, Lava, Ghost Houses, Underwater, Castle, Airship, Factory/Industrial, Carnival, City/Town) [2016-04-30 03:19:16] 12this one seems fine enough [2016-04-30 03:19:17] lava sounds vague [2016-04-30 03:19:17] is there actually lava themed levels [2016-04-30 03:19:20] that arent castles? [2016-04-30 03:19:23] would volcanic be better for lava? [2016-04-30 03:19:26] yes [2016-04-30 03:19:26] most of the world 8s [2016-04-30 03:19:29] <_2257> 7like all of world 8 in nsmb [2016-04-30 03:19:31] 3no, lava levels are a mario staple [2016-04-30 03:19:31] <_2257> 7was lava themed [2016-04-30 03:19:33] oh right good point [2016-04-30 03:19:37] i played that game too [2016-04-30 03:19:42] dark land could count too, i think [2016-04-30 03:19:46] yeah [2016-04-30 03:19:49] paper mario has a volcano [2016-04-30 03:19:54] <_2257> 7i feel like dark land was just [2016-04-30 03:19:56] <_2257> 7dark themed [2016-04-30 03:20:06] 3volcanic wouldnt really work because not all lava levels are also volcanos [2016-04-30 03:20:10] <_2257> 7it had lava but it also had deserts and jungles [2016-04-30 03:20:15] 12lava isn't really vague to me [2016-04-30 03:20:16] per edo [2016-04-30 03:20:23] 3it also pops up in castles and shit [2016-04-30 03:20:25] 3honestly [2016-04-30 03:20:28] but lava doesnt sound right [2016-04-30 03:20:35] 3bowser probably just likes the stuff and has it imported [2016-04-30 03:20:43] "the floor is lava" [2016-04-30 03:20:47] "the ceiling is lava" [2016-04-30 03:20:47] 3yes [2016-04-30 03:20:53] 3the lava is also lava [2016-04-30 03:20:58] "the walls are lava" [2016-04-30 03:21:01] 12mario is lava [2016-04-30 03:21:02] maybe that's why he keeps that axe close [2016-04-30 03:21:06] he likes bathing in it [2016-04-30 03:21:16] "bowser is lava" [2016-04-30 03:21:20] you're lava, he's lava, he's lava, i'm lava! is there any other lava i should know about?! [2016-04-30 03:21:25] 3meow [2016-04-30 03:21:29] but doesn't want his minions to know so he has to come up with an excuse [2016-04-30 03:21:35] chill [2016-04-30 03:21:37] maybe that's why he kidnaps the princess [2016-04-30 03:21:42] 3anyway [2016-04-30 03:21:43] i just solved Super Mario [2016-04-30 03:21:45] isnt it magma though [2016-04-30 03:21:47] <_2257> 7its because he knows dry bowser is cooler than regular bowser [2016-04-30 03:21:54] 3I feel like "Lava" is a valid mario level theme [2016-04-30 03:21:54] semantics ltq [2016-04-30 03:21:58] <_2257> 7its only magma if its underground, but lets ignore that [2016-04-30 03:21:58] or did i just open pandoras box again [2016-04-30 03:22:03] also yeah i think lava is perfectly valid [2016-04-30 03:22:08] 3but does anyone have a replacement if they dont like it [2016-04-30 03:22:09] 12lava is fine [2016-04-30 03:22:09] theres plenty of levels like that [2016-04-30 03:22:13] <_2257> 7"lava/magma" would be the only way to cover both, and that sounds stupid [2016-04-30 03:22:26] molten rock covers both also [2016-04-30 03:22:31] 9,1just [2016-04-30 03:22:32] 9,1fire [2016-04-30 03:22:35] 9,1fire themed stage [2016-04-30 03:22:38] 3hm [2016-04-30 03:22:42] 3actually [2016-04-30 03:22:43] 9,1everyone knows what a fire themed stage is [2016-04-30 03:22:44] 3yes [2016-04-30 03:22:52] 3pidgey has a point [2016-04-30 03:22:53] 12actually yeah [2016-04-30 03:22:53] how well does that work though [2016-04-30 03:22:55] 12fire works [2016-04-30 03:22:58] i know that level with falling debris [2016-04-30 03:23:05] Yeah fire is good [2016-04-30 03:23:06] firey [2016-04-30 03:23:10] but not lava [2016-04-30 03:23:14] but eh [2016-04-30 03:23:20] fire is a much better name imo [2016-04-30 03:23:20] <_2257> 7lets call them "warm levels" [2016-04-30 03:23:26] 9,122 [2016-04-30 03:23:29] 9,1there are beaches [2016-04-30 03:23:30] 3ok, its fire now [2016-04-30 03:23:33] 9,1those are usually warm [2016-04-30 03:23:43] 9,1you sure you want to categorise beaches into this [2016-04-30 03:23:49] <_2257> 7pidgey... it was a joke... [2016-04-30 03:23:52] oh dear [2016-04-30 03:23:53] <_2257> 7warm levels sounds really stupid [2016-04-30 03:23:58] <_2257> 7that was the point [2016-04-30 03:24:00] 9,1and i took it to its extreme [2016-04-30 03:24:06] 9,1extreme pointgs [2016-04-30 03:24:07] 9,1aka [2016-04-30 03:24:08] 3M14: Favorite Species (Goombas, Koopa Troopas, Boos, Shy Guys, Chain Chomps, Bob-ombs, Bullet Bills, Dry Bones, Hammer Bros, Wigglers, Chargin’ Chucks, Lakitus, Yoshis, Toads, Lumas, Magikoopas) [2016-04-30 03:24:10] 9,1f'(x) = 0 [2016-04-30 03:24:21] 12lava/fire/beach/volcanic/magma/smasher levels [2016-04-30 03:24:24] <_2257> 7hammer bros looks weird [2016-04-30 03:24:26] Hammer Bros. [2016-04-30 03:24:27] <_2257> 7what are they actually called [2016-04-30 03:24:30] 12Hammer Bros. [2016-04-30 03:24:31] with the dot [2016-04-30 03:24:35] Hammer Brothers? [2016-04-30 03:24:44] ive never seen them called that [2016-04-30 03:24:47] its always hammer bros. [2016-04-30 03:24:48] 9,1Hammer Bros. [2016-04-30 03:24:49] i guess it's usually hammer bros. with the dot though [2016-04-30 03:25:08] 3dot added [2016-04-30 03:25:11] 9,1no instance of 'Bros.' can correctly be substituted with 'brothers' anyway [2016-04-30 03:25:15] 9,1it's just [2016-04-30 03:25:17] 9,1always 'Bros.' [2016-04-30 03:25:17] Hammer Bros. (or Hammer Brothers[1], sometimes spelled "Hammer Bros") [..] [2016-04-30 03:25:25] 9,1oh [2016-04-30 03:25:28] 9,1the reference [2016-04-30 03:25:33] 12we didn't go with elvin gadd because he's rarely ever called elvin [2016-04-30 03:25:35] 9,1what is that reference [2016-04-30 03:25:37] "Hammer Bros. (or Hammer Brothers[1], sometimes spelled "Hammer Bros") are" [2016-04-30 03:25:40] wait [2016-04-30 03:25:49] "^ Super Mario Bros. 3 English instruction booklet, page 41." [2016-04-30 03:25:49] <_2257> 7the wiki article is just at "Hammer Bro" [2016-04-30 03:25:50] 9,1ok [2016-04-30 03:25:51] 12hammer bro. is usually just that [2016-04-30 03:25:53] * Chiaki_Nanami 9,1waits [2016-04-30 03:26:12] 9,1one ENCLOSED INSTRUCTION BOOKLET won't sway my opinion here [2016-04-30 03:26:13] i dont have the booklet [2016-04-30 03:26:28] dont have the game itself either so [2016-04-30 03:26:30] i have that book [2016-04-30 03:26:32] 3ok, we went with Hammer Bros. [2016-04-30 03:26:33] it just so happens [2016-04-30 03:27:02] 3other than that I see no errors [2016-04-30 03:27:06] <_2257> 7well [2016-04-30 03:27:11] <_2257> 7smb3 is a really lnog time ago [2016-04-30 03:27:17] <_2257> 7i dont think it matters what it said in that book [2016-04-30 03:27:22] book does say brothers [2016-04-30 03:27:23] <_2257> 7if every subsequent game contradicts it [2016-04-30 03:27:28] i apologize for bringing up the book [2016-04-30 03:27:37] 12we forgive you [2016-04-30 03:27:41] Everything else is bros. [2016-04-30 03:27:44] "also called" [2016-04-30 03:27:45] it was an accident sir [2016-04-30 03:27:47] <_2257> 7i thought ltq brought it up? [2016-04-30 03:27:47] 9,1plus [2016-04-30 03:27:49] 9,1it's just [2016-04-30 03:27:50] 9,1one game [2016-04-30 03:27:53] i brought up hammer brothers though [2016-04-30 03:27:55] 9,1one ENCLOSED INSTRUCTION BOOKLET [2016-04-30 03:27:56] <_2257> 7turb are you admitting ltq is your sock [2016-04-30 03:28:00] no [2016-04-30 03:28:06] 12turbthequick [2016-04-30 03:28:11] 9,1I don't think we should be putting too much stock into this [2016-04-30 03:28:15] yeah [2016-04-30 03:28:19] i feel like this award is good now [2016-04-30 03:28:21] 3I think Hammer Bros. is fine [2016-04-30 03:28:24] 3ok [2016-04-30 03:28:25] yeah [2016-04-30 03:28:30] 3M15: Hardest Boss (Shadow Queen, Bonetail, Cackletta, Culex, Elder Princess Shroob, Bowser (Paper Mario), Bowser X, Smithy, The Master (Final Form), Dreamy Bowser, Master Core/Fortress, Phantamanta, Boolossus, Kamek and Paper Kamek) [2016-04-30 03:28:32] Bros. it is [2016-04-30 03:28:36] <_2257> 7im still bothered by the wiki article being at "bro" though [2016-04-30 03:28:40] <_2257> 7why... is it like that... [2016-04-30 03:28:48] 12why IS it like that [2016-04-30 03:28:52] 9,1because [2016-04-30 03:28:54] 9,1it's [2016-04-30 03:28:56] 9,1one [2016-04-30 03:29:01] Because there's also boomerang bro [2016-04-30 03:29:04] And fire bro [2016-04-30 03:29:07] 9,1it's a Hammer Bro [2016-04-30 03:29:08] 3bring it up with the wiki [2016-04-30 03:29:14] 3please, focus [2016-04-30 03:29:17] 9,1uh [2016-04-30 03:29:23] 9,1Phantamanta [2016-04-30 03:29:28] 9,1is there not an 's' in that name [2016-04-30 03:29:32] 9,1also [2016-04-30 03:29:33] no [2016-04-30 03:29:34] no [2016-04-30 03:29:37] not from what i recall [2016-04-30 03:29:37] 12no [2016-04-30 03:29:37] no, it's a singular manta to begin with [2016-04-30 03:29:39] 9,1ok [2016-04-30 03:29:41] only during the fight does it split [2016-04-30 03:30:00] 9,1also it's 'Kamek and Paper Kamek' as one nominee, I take it? [2016-04-30 03:30:02] 9,1if so [2016-04-30 03:30:09] 9,1could we change the 'and' to an ampersand [2016-04-30 03:30:12] 12yeah from paper jam i think [2016-04-30 03:30:19] 9,1i don't know why i want this [2016-04-30 03:30:25] 12i don't either [2016-04-30 03:30:28] me neither [2016-04-30 03:30:29] why not [2016-04-30 03:30:31] shouuuuld we do "Kamek and Paper Kamek (Paper Jam)" or is it obvious enough [2016-04-30 03:30:35] isnt there other things with "and" already [2016-04-30 03:30:38] its obvious i think [2016-04-30 03:30:39] that that would break consistency with [2016-04-30 03:30:47] 9,1ok [2016-04-30 03:30:59] if there are then both are used [2016-04-30 03:31:16] i mean [2016-04-30 03:31:29] i think its clear that theyre one boss [2016-04-30 03:31:37] 12me too [2016-04-30 03:31:41] they dont have a comma separating them and people who played paper jam would probably recognize them [2016-04-30 03:31:42] 3they will show up as one option on the poll [2016-04-30 03:31:44] yeah [2016-04-30 03:31:45] F10 uses an "and" [2016-04-30 03:31:48] 3there is little chance of confusion [2016-04-30 03:31:52] nothing else more [2016-04-30 03:32:33] everything else uses & [2016-04-30 03:32:53] 3what is this instance of and [2016-04-30 03:32:59] i thought it was all and [2016-04-30 03:32:59] weird [2016-04-30 03:33:12] "Limited Inventory (Paper Mario and Paper Mario TTYD)" [2016-04-30 03:33:21] 3ok [2016-04-30 03:33:30] 3then we will change this and that one to & [2016-04-30 03:33:36] 12well if its mostly & i guess it wouldn't hurt to be consistent [2016-04-30 03:33:43] correct [2016-04-30 03:33:47] 3ok [2016-04-30 03:33:50] 9,1i knew that my hunch was correct [2016-04-30 03:33:50] 3anything else? [2016-04-30 03:33:59] 9,1bonus points to me [2016-04-30 03:33:59] wait, SPM also had limited inventory [2016-04-30 03:34:03] 12everything else seems correct [2016-04-30 03:34:04] right? im pretty sure about that [2016-04-30 03:34:17] it did [2016-04-30 03:34:18] <_2257> 7so did smrpg [2016-04-30 03:34:18] 12can we do that when we actually [2016-04-30 03:34:24] 12get to f10 [2016-04-30 03:34:28] 9,1i agree with smasher [2016-04-30 03:34:29] 9,1tbh [2016-04-30 03:34:34] 12we're a bit away from there [2016-04-30 03:34:40] 3yes, smasher is correct [2016-04-30 03:34:44] yeah [2016-04-30 03:34:47] 3this is M15 [2016-04-30 03:34:55] 3Hardest Boss (Shadow Queen, Bonetail, Cackletta, Culex, Elder Princess Shroob, Bowser (Paper Mario), Bowser X, Smithy, The Master (Final Form), Dreamy Bowser, Master Core/Fortress, Phantamanta, Boolossus, Kamek & Paper Kamek) [2016-04-30 03:35:06] 12we just brought that up to help decide if and should be changed to & [2016-04-30 03:35:13] ok [2016-04-30 03:35:14] yes [2016-04-30 03:35:48] 12so yeah like i said everything should be fine [2016-04-30 03:35:52] <_2257> 7which cackletta [2016-04-30 03:36:06] 12oh... [2016-04-30 03:36:07] final form i think [2016-04-30 03:36:09] isnt there only one fight with "cackletta" [2016-04-30 03:36:13] soul i think [2016-04-30 03:36:14] i thought the last fight was her soul [2016-04-30 03:36:20] theres like 2 i think [2016-04-30 03:36:22] written as "cackletta's soul" [2016-04-30 03:36:27] there three [2016-04-30 03:36:36] dont remember ss well enough [2016-04-30 03:36:45] there's a fight against Cackletta, one against Bowletta, and one against Cackletta's Soul [2016-04-30 03:36:47] one midgame, one against bowletta and one against her soul [2016-04-30 03:36:47] i never made it past fawful so i cant recall for sure [2016-04-30 03:36:49] -->| Kotori_Minami (Nyrie@tep-54-08-528-45.nc.res.rr.com) has joined #mwikiawards [2016-04-30 03:36:54] i don't remember which one we intended to put on the award, if i'm honestly [2016-04-30 03:36:56] -ly [2016-04-30 03:36:56] but yeah turb just said what i meant [2016-04-30 03:37:11] i'd assume it was the soul because the midgame battle isn't particularly frustrating if you know what you're doing [2016-04-30 03:37:13] 3when in doubt, lets go with the last one [2016-04-30 03:37:16] |<-- N64dude has left irc.darkmyst.org:6697 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [2016-04-30 03:37:26] cackletta herself wasnt a hard bass [2016-04-30 03:37:31] 12ok then change it Cackletta's Soul [2016-04-30 03:37:31] nor a fish [2016-04-30 03:37:34] wtf [2016-04-30 03:37:36] 3yes [2016-04-30 03:37:52] 12is that it now [2016-04-30 03:38:02] 3I think so [2016-04-30 03:38:11] 9,1Toadbert: was she a fisk [2016-04-30 03:38:22] is that a homestuck reference [2016-04-30 03:38:25] 9,1no [2016-04-30 03:38:27] 9,1it's a [2016-04-30 03:38:29] 9,1me reference [2016-04-30 03:38:33] 3M16: Favorite Item (Tanooki Suit/Super Leaf, Star, Fire Flower, Mega Mushroom, Metal Cap, Wing Cap, Bullet Bill, Propeller Mushroom, Penguin Suit, Cloud Flower, Cape Feather, Gold Flower, Cat Suit/Super Bell, Double Cherry, Super Horn, Mystery Mushroom) [2016-04-30 03:38:35] <_2257> 7wait [2016-04-30 03:38:38] <_2257> 7sorry but [2016-04-30 03:38:45] <_2257> 7werent there also two bowser xes [2016-04-30 03:39:16] 3I dont know [2016-04-30 03:39:21] lemme look [2016-04-30 03:39:24] 3are there [2016-04-30 03:39:29] <_2257> 7i thought so [2016-04-30 03:39:36] yes [2016-04-30 03:39:37] This award seems fine [2016-04-30 03:39:40] one in BiS and one in DT [2016-04-30 03:39:42] per [2016-04-30 03:39:54] "Star can refer to the following:" [2016-04-30 03:39:55] 3well [2016-04-30 03:39:56] oh dear [2016-04-30 03:40:01] 3I think we mean the BiS one [2016-04-30 03:40:08] 3BIS [2016-04-30 03:40:12] <_2257> 7i'm sure the intended star was the power star [2016-04-30 03:40:16] <_2257> 7err [2016-04-30 03:40:16] yeah BiS was the intended one i think [2016-04-30 03:40:17] <_2257> 7god [2016-04-30 03:40:19] <_2257> 7no [2016-04-30 03:40:20] 9,1Super Star [2016-04-30 03:40:20] the super star? [2016-04-30 03:40:21] <_2257> 7i mean starman [2016-04-30 03:40:24] starman [2016-04-30 03:40:24] 9,1Starman [2016-04-30 03:40:26] oh [2016-04-30 03:40:26] <_2257> 7the one that makes you flash [2016-04-30 03:40:28] yeah [2016-04-30 03:40:30] <_2257> 7and be invincible [2016-04-30 03:40:31] "Super Stars, power-ups that give its user temporary invincibility." [2016-04-30 03:40:39] 9,1oh derp [2016-04-30 03:40:42] <_2257> 7is it really called super star now? [2016-04-30 03:40:46] 12yes [2016-04-30 03:40:48] <_2257> 7when did that happen [2016-04-30 03:40:51] 9,1idk [2016-04-30 03:40:52] yeah doesnt it have tons of names [2016-04-30 03:40:59] 12i haven't heard it be called starman in forever tbh [2016-04-30 03:41:01] "Super Stars (also referred to as Starmen or Invincible Starmen[1]) " [2016-04-30 03:41:08] 9,1[1] [2016-04-30 03:41:12] 12[1] [2016-04-30 03:41:16] Cain, Christine (July 7, 1999). Super Mario Bros. Deluxe: Prima's Official Strategy Guide, page 10. Retrieved April 10, 2015. [2016-04-30 03:41:37] <_2257> 7ive always called it starman, i had no idea that wasnt the real name [2016-04-30 03:41:43] 9,1lol [2016-04-30 03:41:46] 12thanks christine cain [2016-04-30 03:41:47] ive just called it star [2016-04-30 03:41:50] all day every day [2016-04-30 03:41:54] 3Starman is a well established name, so lets go with Super Star/Starman [2016-04-30 03:41:55] <_2257> 7i also thought ? blocks were actually officially called "prize block" forever [2016-04-30 03:42:02] or power star some times [2016-04-30 03:42:03] 9,1prize block [2016-04-30 03:42:04] 12i've generally called it either super star or just star [2016-04-30 03:42:12] 12super star/starman works too [2016-04-30 03:42:19] 9,1fw: power stars are the things you grab in sm64 [2016-04-30 03:42:20] So Super Star is the official name for this purpose [2016-04-30 03:42:22] -->| mcd (idk@ofgwdd-38.nat.lancs.ac.uk) has joined #mwikiawards [2016-04-30 03:42:23] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o mcd by ChanServ [2016-04-30 03:42:24] per edo [2016-04-30 03:42:29] 9,1and smg and smg2 and sm64ds [2016-04-30 03:42:31] 9,1and [2016-04-30 03:42:38] 12& [2016-04-30 03:42:48] <_2257> 7super star actually makes me think of mario party before anything else [2016-04-30 03:42:49] -->| Packy (BEEEEEEEEE@zwf-625-760-190-53.trans-video.net) has joined #mwikiawards [2016-04-30 03:42:51] 9,1mcd you're literally only 1 hour and 42 minutes late [2016-04-30 03:42:54] 9,1u did it [2016-04-30 03:42:57] HOW COULD YOU PI [2016-04-30 03:43:00] 12you are the starman [2016-04-30 03:43:04] 3ok [2016-04-30 03:43:06] we can start the meeting now i'm here ok [2016-04-30 03:43:19] 3M17: Favorite Mario RPG (Super Mario RPG, Paper Mario, Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time, Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, Super Paper Mario, Paper Mario: Sticker Star, Mario & Luigi: Dream Team, Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Bros. Edition, Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam) [2016-04-30 03:43:25] oh bother [2016-04-30 03:43:31] 9,1Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars [2016-04-30 03:43:40] no please dont [2016-04-30 03:43:43] 12i think all of the titl------- [2016-04-30 03:43:53] else all of the titles seem okay [2016-04-30 03:43:54] 12wow you didn't even let me finish typing this time [2016-04-30 03:44:01] late to what [2016-04-30 03:44:03] is this not palkgiuschat [2016-04-30 03:44:10] 9,1this is mwikiawards [2016-04-30 03:44:15] this is my chat, yes [2016-04-30 03:44:18] 3focus, please [2016-04-30 03:44:25] god damn [2016-04-30 03:44:29] sorry :C [2016-04-30 03:44:34] i seem to have entered the wrong house again! [2016-04-30 03:44:35] 3ok [2016-04-30 03:44:36] [03:43] Freakworld else all of the titles seem okay [2016-04-30 03:44:37] 3Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars [2016-04-30 03:44:41] 9,1the only change is 'Super Mario RPG' -> 'Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars' [2016-04-30 03:44:46] 3other than that the titles seem ok [2016-04-30 03:44:47] 9,1all other titles are good [2016-04-30 03:44:50] 12that's the only change i'm PRETTY SURE [2016-04-30 03:45:00] yeah tht's good [2016-04-30 03:45:06] 3M18: Favorite Mario Party Game (Mario Party, Mario Party 2, Mario Party 3, Mario Party 4, Mario Party 5, Mario Party 6, Mario Party Advance, Mario Party 7, Mario Party DS, Mario Party 8, Mario Party 9, Mario Party: Island Tour, Mario Party 10) [2016-04-30 03:45:17] 9,1all good [2016-04-30 03:45:18] This is fine [2016-04-30 03:45:21] good [2016-04-30 03:45:22] can't find anything wrong there [2016-04-30 03:45:24] 12Mario Party: 2 [2016-04-30 03:45:26] 12(skip) [2016-04-30 03:45:28] y [2016-04-30 03:45:29] mario party II [2016-04-30 03:45:31] 9,1Mario Party: Smasher [2016-04-30 03:45:36] 9,1(skip) [2016-04-30 03:45:36] Mario Party: Revenge [2016-04-30 03:45:39] 3ok [2016-04-30 03:45:45] Mario Party: Mario Edition [2016-04-30 03:45:53] 9,1im sorry for not focusing [2016-04-30 03:46:04] 3M19: Favorite Super Smash Bros. Character (Mario, Kirby, Link, Yoshi, Sonic, Wario, Luigi, Captain Falcon, Mr. Game & Watch, Peach, Toon Link, Mega Man, Rosalina & Luma, Pac-Man, Villager, Ness, Bowser, Shulk) [2016-04-30 03:46:07] ds came after 8 [2016-04-30 03:46:13] Mario Party 3, Mario Party 3 (actually 1 with a misleading boxart) [2016-04-30 03:46:15] <_2257> 7are we doing princess peach again [2016-04-30 03:46:18] 9,1ltq: it does not matter [2016-04-30 03:46:26] 12might as well, i guess [2016-04-30 03:46:27] 9,1the options will be randomised on the poll anyway [2016-04-30 03:46:30] 3the order is irrelevant because options are randomized [2016-04-30 03:46:32] 9,1and yes, we are doing that [2016-04-30 03:46:35] 9,1consistency is key [2016-04-30 03:46:36] i say no 22 [2016-04-30 03:46:39] because shes just named Peach in game [2016-04-30 03:46:41] 3wait [2016-04-30 03:46:43] 3yes [2016-04-30 03:46:45] 3per tb [2016-04-30 03:46:48] 9,1oh? [2016-04-30 03:46:50] 12that is true actually [2016-04-30 03:46:51] 9,1ok then [2016-04-30 03:46:52] <_2257> 7well thats frustrating [2016-04-30 03:46:57] polls randomizing on this kind of poll seems odd to me but okay [2016-04-30 03:47:03] 9,1wait [2016-04-30 03:47:13] 9,1is it 'Rosalina & Luma' or 'Rosalina and Luma' [2016-04-30 03:47:23] 9,1in the game [2016-04-30 03:47:26] <_2257> 7randomisation is better because it eliminates people's bias towards the first option [2016-04-30 03:47:37] 12i'm pretty sure it's & but i could be completely wrong [2016-04-30 03:47:38] it's & iirc [2016-04-30 03:47:53] & [2016-04-30 03:47:55] the ampersand is there [2016-04-30 03:47:57] Rosalina & Luma is the name given to a fighting duo in Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U. For pages on the individual characters, refer to the following: [2016-04-30 03:47:57] 9,1ok [2016-04-30 03:48:00] 9,1& it is [2016-04-30 03:48:00] [..] [2016-04-30 03:48:12] http://www.smashbros.com/us/images/index/image/character-rosetta.png [2016-04-30 03:48:13] 3its & [2016-04-30 03:48:18] confirmed [2016-04-30 03:48:21] 9,1there's obviously mario bias in that list but [2016-04-30 03:48:24] 3I just looked it up [2016-04-30 03:48:32] 9,1shrug_emote.txt [2016-04-30 03:48:35] 3ok [2016-04-30 03:48:40] 9,1no objections [2016-04-30 03:49:20] 3M20: Favorite Sports Game (Mario Tennis (N64), Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour, Mario Power Tennis, Mario Superstar Baseball, Mario Strikers Charged, Mario Hoops 3-on-3, Mario Sports Mix, Super Mario Strikers, Mario Super Sluggers, Mario & Sonic at the 2012 London Olympics, Mario Tennis Open, Mario & Sonic at the Vancouver 2010 Olympic Winter Games, Mario Golf: World Tour, Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash) [2016-04-30 03:49:47] |<-- mcd has left irc.darkmyst.org:6697 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [2016-04-30 03:49:52] its London 2012 not 2012 London [2016-04-30 03:49:54] are the m&s game titles correct [2016-04-30 03:50:01] Mario Tennis (Nintendo 64) [2016-04-30 03:50:06] everything else seems fine [2016-04-30 03:50:22] and Vancouver 2010 is just simply Olympic Winter games [2016-04-30 03:50:24] <_2257> 7wait, are we unabbreviating console names now? [2016-04-30 03:50:31] <_2257> 7i thought we didnt do that for mario kart [2016-04-30 03:50:32] we did with m4 [2016-04-30 03:50:33] 3yes [2016-04-30 03:50:36] 3we are [2016-04-30 03:50:44] <_2257> 7oh [2016-04-30 03:50:47] 12we are? [2016-04-30 03:50:52] w [2016-04-30 03:50:53] 12alright then [2016-04-30 03:50:57] thats the first time i noticed [2016-04-30 03:51:10] -->| mcd (idk@ofgwdd-38.nat.lancs.ac.uk) has joined #mwikiawards [2016-04-30 03:51:11] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o mcd by ChanServ [2016-04-30 03:51:26] 3"Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games" [2016-04-30 03:51:40] 12yeah that's its title [2016-04-30 03:51:43] Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games [2016-04-30 03:52:12] 12not sure if some would confuse it with later olympic winter games [2016-04-30 03:52:15] Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games [2016-04-30 03:52:15] 12probably not but [2016-04-30 03:52:17] 12shrug [2016-04-30 03:52:21] (not specifing vancouver) [2016-04-30 03:53:07] There are two Olympic Winter games though. Wouldn't it serve to different at least a little? [2016-04-30 03:53:07] 3Favorite Sports Game (Mario Tennis (Nintendo 64), Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour, Mario Power Tennis, Mario Superstar Baseball, Mario Strikers Charged, Mario Hoops 3-on-3, Mario Sports Mix, Super Mario Strikers, Mario Super Sluggers, Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games, Mario Tennis Open, Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games, Mario Golf: World Tour, Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash) [2016-04-30 03:53:38] i think every one of these names is now correct [2016-04-30 03:53:46] i guess we're going for the latest olympic games? [2016-04-30 03:53:46] the second specifies Sochi [2016-04-30 03:53:54] none are particularly memorable [2016-04-30 03:53:56] for any reason [2016-04-30 03:54:05] we removed 2014 apparently [2016-04-30 03:54:05] music [2016-04-30 03:54:11] the remixes are hype [2016-04-30 03:54:11] 12mcd it literally said the 2010 one before [2016-04-30 03:54:16] thats literally all though [2016-04-30 03:54:22] i was responding to sonicmario [2016-04-30 03:54:26] 12oh, i guess you were dead [2016-04-30 03:54:29] mcd we made the decision to go with Vancouver over sochi a few meetings back [2016-04-30 03:54:30] and i was dead [2016-04-30 03:54:35] possibly [2016-04-30 03:54:39] likely [2016-04-30 03:54:45] ca [2016-04-30 03:54:52] 3ok, so I think thats ok then [2016-04-30 03:54:54] all titles are correct now i belive [2016-04-30 03:54:56] i think it was because it was more liked [2016-04-30 03:55:04] id support going with vancouver too but last time i played it it was pretty terrible [2016-04-30 03:55:07] Vancouver I think is considered the better one though (Vancouver has more content, they kinda rushed the Sochi one I heard. Sochi doesn't even have a handheld version) [2016-04-30 03:55:16] so im guessing sochi must be even worse [2016-04-30 03:55:24] 3since the other winter game is the sochi one [2016-04-30 03:55:38] 3M21: Favorite Puzzle Game (Dr. Mario (series), Tetris Attack, Yoshi’s Cookie, Wario’s Woods, Mario’s Picross, Mario vs. Donkey Kong (series), Yoshi, Donkey Kong ‘94, DK: King of Swing/DK: Jungle Climber, Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker, Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Bros. Edition) [2016-04-30 03:55:42] how is vancouver olympic games a terrible game [2016-04-30 03:55:48] its a great game [2016-04-30 03:55:50] does it matter which wario's woods it is [2016-04-30 03:55:52] nes or snes [2016-04-30 03:55:57] 12i doubt it [2016-04-30 03:56:00] 3why is there an entire series nominated [2016-04-30 03:56:09] arent all the games the same [2016-04-30 03:56:12] woods is the same game apparently so no [2016-04-30 03:56:14] 9,1hang on [2016-04-30 03:56:16] okay weve discussed this already but [2016-04-30 03:56:16] dr mario games are fairly similar [2016-04-30 03:56:17] woods is the same game [2016-04-30 03:56:17] 9,1is it really [2016-04-30 03:56:20] ugh why is king of swing/jungle climber still there but i know full well its never leaving this award [2016-04-30 03:56:20] 9,1DK: King of Swing [2016-04-30 03:56:23] but we could nominate the most recent one or something [2016-04-30 03:56:25] the title of dk94 is just "Donkey Kong" [2016-04-30 03:56:32] i guess the entire series is nominated when the games just follow like the same forumla [2016-04-30 03:56:36] *formula [2016-04-30 03:56:39] 12i think we need the '94 in this case [2016-04-30 03:56:41] 3ok [2016-04-30 03:56:56] 3we can put the 94 in brackets [2016-04-30 03:57:09] should od that for that other award too then [2016-04-30 03:57:13] <_2257> 7the wiki article is at donkey kong (game boy) [2016-04-30 03:57:19] <_2257> 7if thats relevant [2016-04-30 03:57:25] i think Donkey Kong (Arcade) would be the most clear to me personally [2016-04-30 03:57:31] Donkey Kong (alternatively Game Boy Donkey Kong, and Donkey Kong '94 in early development) [..] [2016-04-30 03:57:34] isnt dk94 pretty much the same [2016-04-30 03:57:37] <_2257> 7its not the arcade one, though [2016-04-30 03:57:39] <_2257> 7no [2016-04-30 03:57:41] oh really [2016-04-30 03:57:42] 12the arcade game is not a puzzle game [2016-04-30 03:57:43] <_2257> 7dk94 is more like [2016-04-30 03:57:46] <_2257> 7mario vs dk [2016-04-30 03:57:51] 12yeah [2016-04-30 03:57:54] wait what the hell this is a puzzle game [2016-04-30 03:58:01] <_2257> 7yeah [2016-04-30 03:58:02] 3lets specify the console instead of the year then [2016-04-30 03:58:02] i have never heard of this in my life [2016-04-30 03:58:05] donkey kong 94 is a beta name [2016-04-30 03:58:05] 3(Game Boy) [2016-04-30 03:58:16] wait yes i have [2016-04-30 03:58:21] but i always jsut assumed it was the arcade [2016-04-30 03:58:26] i would prefer game boy in the brackets over 94 [2016-04-30 03:58:33] change in M5 too then [2016-04-30 03:58:33] the first 4 stages are the arcade version [2016-04-30 03:58:36] then comes the change [2016-04-30 03:59:03] DK: King of Swing and DK: Jungle Climber are different games as one nominee? [2016-04-30 03:59:15] i dunno [2016-04-30 03:59:20] i feel like it's fine but that also [2016-04-30 03:59:22] 3do we write out the DK, or is that literally the title? [2016-04-30 03:59:25] Then Mario Vs. Donkey Kong 1 was like a sequel to DK94 but then every following one was centered around a Lemming style puzzle game on the Minis [2016-04-30 03:59:27] would require the dr mario (series) thing to be fine [2016-04-30 03:59:28] probably [2016-04-30 03:59:41] the entire mvsdk are combined as one [2016-04-30 03:59:54] 12i think dr mario (series) is ok [2016-04-30 03:59:55] looks like DK: King of Swing [2016-04-30 03:59:56] those games are similar to be fair ltq [2016-04-30 04:00:04] and jungle climber [2016-04-30 04:00:08] the donkey kong isn't written out [2016-04-30 04:00:20] 3ok [2016-04-30 04:00:22] <_2257> 721:59:25 @SonicMario | Then Mario Vs. Donkey Kong 1 was like a sequel to DK94 but then every following one was centered around a Lemming style puzzle game on the Minis [2016-04-30 04:00:25] <_2257> 721:59:40 @NSY | the entire mvsdk are combined as one [2016-04-30 04:00:30] <_2257> 7this is actually kind of weird tbh [2016-04-30 04:00:44] 12oh yeah i kind of meant to point that out [2016-04-30 04:01:00] <_2257> 7mvdk1 is combined with a bunch of games it has little in common with, but not the game it has a lot in common with [2016-04-30 04:01:12] 12most of the mvsdk games are similar enough but the first one is nothing like it [2016-04-30 04:01:13] aren't all games but the first pretty much the same just with a few different level mechanics [2016-04-30 04:01:30] 12i'm not sure how to separate the original from the rest, though [2016-04-30 04:01:34] yeah all games after mvdk2 have the same basic principle [2016-04-30 04:01:53] mario vs. donkey kong, mario vs. donkey kong (lemmings) [2016-04-30 04:02:11] 12hah [2016-04-30 04:02:14] 3mario vs. donkey kong 2 (and onwards) [2016-04-30 04:02:22] 3or onward [2016-04-30 04:02:28] 3english [2016-04-30 04:02:37] 3I dont english [2016-04-30 04:02:45] i would have them best of as different nominees [2016-04-30 04:02:50] <_2257> 7(theyre both correct) [2016-04-30 04:02:57] 12Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis (and onward) ? [2016-04-30 04:02:58] <_2257> 7the second game isnt called 2 though [2016-04-30 04:03:01] <_2257> 7yeah [2016-04-30 04:03:04] <_2257> 7it has a subtitle [2016-04-30 04:03:37] 12and then maybe combine the original with 94? [2016-04-30 04:04:08] 12if they're similar enough [2016-04-30 04:04:10] how different are those two games? [2016-04-30 04:04:11] 3maybe we should just go with the most well-known one [2016-04-30 04:04:26] good meeting guys, i feel like i got a lot done [2016-04-30 04:04:29] im gonna go to bed and die [2016-04-30 04:04:42] 3have fun [2016-04-30 04:04:55] 12i've never actually played either 94 or mvdk1 so i guess i'm not much help there [2016-04-30 04:05:00] >going to bed before 4 am [2016-04-30 04:05:03] classic uniju [2016-04-30 04:05:06] 3I played 94 [2016-04-30 04:05:10] <_2257> 7ive played mvdk1 [2016-04-30 04:05:12] i played 94 as well [2016-04-30 04:05:13] is the meeting still going on? [2016-04-30 04:05:14] and mvdk1 [2016-04-30 04:05:16] im back btw [2016-04-30 04:05:17] its been 4:00 over here though [2016-04-30 04:05:20] i have them both on my 3ds [2016-04-30 04:05:24] 3well, we're in overtime [2016-04-30 04:05:24] i've played both of them but it's been awhile [2016-04-30 04:05:25] i dont think i ever said i left [2016-04-30 04:05:27] but im back [2016-04-30 04:05:35] yeah ltq thats what i was referring to [2016-04-30 04:05:35] from my memory i don't think they're very similar [2016-04-30 04:05:36] 3the meeting ends as soon as this discussion does [2016-04-30 04:05:36] and thats all that matters [2016-04-30 04:05:38] but i might be wrong [2016-04-30 04:05:43] but uniju is in a fun american timezone [2016-04-30 04:06:09] i think there was a lot more in MvDK1 that differentiated itself enough from being like a DK94 2 in a way I guess [2016-04-30 04:06:11] iirc [2016-04-30 04:06:51] 9,1i'm absolutely exhausted may i go to bed [2016-04-30 04:06:58] 3yes [2016-04-30 04:07:01] 3lets [2016-04-30 04:07:03] 9,1ok, thanks [2016-04-30 04:07:08] 3call the end of the meeting here [2016-04-30 04:07:19] <_2257> 7lets all play dk94 and mvdk1 [2016-04-30 04:07:21] =-= Chiaki_Nanami is now known as slepi [2016-04-30 04:07:22] <_2257> 7this week [2016-04-30 04:07:22] 3and take up from here next week [2016-04-30 04:07:30] ive played them theyre [2016-04-30 04:07:34] mostly identical [2016-04-30 04:07:38] 12yeah we can always sort this out next week [2016-04-30 04:07:39] goddammit freakworld [2016-04-30 04:07:42] other than the fact that mvdk has like [2016-04-30 04:07:54] another type of level objective [2016-04-30 04:07:56] they have the same moves etc [2016-04-30 04:08:02] idk it's been like years i just know both of them are really really fun games [2016-04-30 04:08:07] 3We will resume the discussion of M21 and the rest of the full review next week [2016-04-30 04:08:08] yeah [2016-04-30 04:08:11] ok [2016-04-30 04:08:35] how many mini march games are they now btw [2016-04-30 04:08:36] 12someone buy me mvsdk1 and dk94 so i can solve the mystery [2016-04-30 04:08:40] 3end of meeting here [2016-04-30 04:08:42] 3-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------