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<Mariofan169>
only here while internission is going on
<DragonFreak>
hockey intermission?
<Mariofan169>
musical intermission
<DragonFreak>
oh ok
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<Freakworld>
alright
<Freakworld>
do we discuss propaganda today?
<Anton{Politoed}>
soon
<Anton{Politoed}>
i just refreshed firefox so i have to reorganize tabs
<Freakworld>
i feel like we should take old communist propaganda and shop anton on it
<Freakworld>
and then spam it on the wiki
<Anton{Politoed}>
22 is edo around
<Mariofan169>
l propose we have the only prize be a 1 year subscription to the jelly of the month club
<shoutmon>
uhhh i havent seen him
<Anton{Politoed}>
ok
<shoutmon>
im in saarbrücken right now so i cant wake him up
<Anton{Politoed}>
anyways welcome to another fanciful AC meeting
<Nyrie>
hi
<Freakworld>
im german representative #2
<Lord_Bowser>
holla
<DragonFreak>
very fanciful
<turb>
:clap:
<Anton{Politoed}>
today on the docket is:
<Freakworld>
Stets zu Diensten
<Anton{Politoed}>
*merger details
<Freakworld>
just pretend im edo
<Anton{Politoed}>
*token stuff maybe if edo shows up
<Anton{Politoed}>
*continue with mario awards
<Anton{Politoed}>
so first up then is merger stuff
Superchao puts on his fancy suit
<Anton{Politoed}>
on the forum we decided:
<Anton{Politoed}>
Merge the Shroom Awards and User Awards ceremonies into one single ceremony?
<Anton{Politoed}>
overwhelmingly yes
<Anton{Politoed}>
so that's what we're doing
<Freakworld>
btw you wanted to know voted no right
<Superchao>
here's to the era of Community Awards
<Freakworld>
that was me
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<Anton{Politoed}>
I figured
<DragonFreak>
CA california
<turb>
i knew it
<Freakworld>
i retract that vote because i still didnt think of any valid reason behind my thoughts
<Lord_Bowser>
ayy
<Anton{Politoed}>
you were the only one to dissent during the meeting and also provided almost no reasoning
<Freakworld>
change to abstain or whatever if thats possible
<Anton{Politoed}>
before we shove this on over to the shroom to begin their own discussions, we gotta make some quick votes on basic things
<Anton{Politoed}>
first up would be a new name
<Meta_Knight>
i vote for Community Awards
<Anton{Politoed}>
"Community Awards" has been the only idea presented so far
<Anton{Politoed}>
are there any other suggestions?
<Lord_Bowser>
that's most fitting imo
<Superchao>
i've got nothing, i don't think anything else covers this
<Lord_Bowser>
the number though
<Freakworld>
can i abstain on this entire topic actually
<Lakituthequick>
Pretty descriptive, its nice
<Freakworld>
its not like i dont care its just idk what i want
<Anton{Politoed}>
you can
<Freakworld>
so i dont feel qualified to vote
<Anton{Politoed}>
if there's no other suggestions for a name we can just accept "Community Awards"
<turb>
i have no suggestions
<Anton{Politoed}>
so I'll mark that down now
<Anton{Politoed}>
the next decision is about numbering it
<Meta_Knight>
i think we should have the 5 user awards then the 10 shrooms award
<Anton{Politoed}>
if we should start fresh at Community Awards I, or continue with Community Awards X through where User Awards was at
<Lord_Bowser>
i say x
<Meta_Knight>
oh you mean numbering liike that
<Superchao>
X sounds okay
<Nyrie>
x
<Meta_Knight>
X
<Superchao>
it's the same thing but renamed
<Superchao>
as opposed to if it was like
<Superchao>
totally new
<Anton{Politoed}>
on the forum I was the only one to say I but that was at the beginning of the topic
<Lakituthequick>
<s>27</s> 10
<turb>
im fine with x
<Lord_Bowser>
although mk brought up a point though
<Lord_Bowser>
how will they be ordered
<Lord_Bowser>
user first or shroom first
<Anton{Politoed}>
shroom will decide that
<Superchao>
i'd like user second actually
<Lord_Bowser>
me too
<Freakworld>
america first
<Superchao>
that way lifetime community achivement award comes last
<Lord_Bowser>
^
<turb>
^
<turb>
but yeah
<Freakworld>
that sounds good though
<Meta_Knight>
i'll set up a shroom meeting for further discussion later
<Anton{Politoed}>
they could also be completely mixed around too
<turb>
this is something that the shroom staff has an opinion on too
<shoutmon>
they could be interleve--
<turb>
yeah that
<Meta_Knight>
thats a good point
<Anton{Politoed}>
but that's not what we're discussing now so _
<Anton{Politoed}>
but if no one has any complaints about Community Awards X we can just bypass a vote and accept that
<Lord_Bowser>
sounds good to me
<Anton{Politoed}>
with this comes the assumption that the denotation will change from S#/U# to C#
<Superchao>
name it Q
<Superchao>
just to fuck with everyone
<Superchao>
(i have no objections)
<Freakworld>
per
<Lakituthequick>
Quality Awards
<Lord_Bowser>
c is good yeah
<turb>
im good with this
<Lakituthequick>
(per C)
<Superchao>
but ltq
<Superchao>
that implies we have quality
<Lakituthequick>
yes
<Nyrie>
c is a-ok
<Lakituthequick>
you said 'to fuck with everyone'
<Anton{Politoed}>
the dossier and historical results are bureaucratic things that we've settled on on the forum
<Anton{Politoed}>
and those were to continue the dossier system we've been going with for a few years now
<Superchao>
brb
<Anton{Politoed}>
and in the historical results to create a new sheet for Community Awards
<Anton{Politoed}>
re: scheduling I'd like to put this one to a vote just because, even though we won't need to determine this until months from now but it's good to decide it all at once
<Anton{Politoed}>
and before everyone starts yelling their vote let me introduce it and then call the vote
with this cutting ~5 awards, tbd, we will end up with more time
<Anton{Politoed}>
free time, rather
<Anton{Politoed}>
so a decision would need to be made about what to do with it
<Freakworld>
time for more bloopers
<Superchao>
hmm
<Freakworld>
extended cuzt
<Freakworld>
*cut
<Anton{Politoed}>
whether to allow for longer breaks, or to end the ceremony sooner
<Superchao>
if we have 25 minutes
<Lord_Bowser>
i feel like allotting that extra time to intermissions would be best
<Superchao>
i'd support doing both
<Lord_Bowser>
yeah
<Superchao>
use 10 of the minutes for each of the two intermissions
<Superchao>
and the last 5 minutes just end earlier
<Anton{Politoed}>
it might be 25 minutes but we don't know yet
<Meta_Knight>
allowing longer intermissions will allow people to catch up who may be behind reading presentaitons
<Lord_Bowser>
yeah it would lead to less rushing and more catch up time
<Anton{Politoed}>
so what we can decide is to prioritize intermissions and leave the remainder for the end
<Superchao>
yeah
<Lord_Bowser>
yeah
<Freakworld>
per
<turb>
thats fair yeah
<Meta_Knight>
i agree
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Should we do that? (Y/N/A)
<Anton{Politoed}>
That being
<shoutmon>
y
<DragonFreak>
y
<Anton{Politoed}>
20:13 Anton{Politoed} so what we can decide is to prioritize intermissions and leave the remainder for the end
<Lord_Bowser>
y
<Anton{Politoed}>
Y
<turb>
y
<Meta_Knight>
y
<Nyrie>
y
<Superchao>
y
<Meta_Knight>
but yeah i remember last year and the year before i heard people complaining about them not being able to read fast enough
<Freakworld>
y
<Meta_Knight>
so the extra intermission time could let them catch up
<turb>
i definitely prefer longer intermissions/breaks myself lolo
<Freakworld>
7-0-0
<Lakituthequick>
y
<Freakworld>
10-0-0
<turb>
i went into that in my post, but yeah i wont clog up the voting time too much talking about it
<Anton{Politoed}>
the final thing I had in my post at least would be deciding on who to appoint as the Community Awards host, with User and Shroom both effectively dissolved
<shoutmon>
i cant believe freakworld is the new meowth
<Anton{Politoed}>
respectively that was me and MK
<Freakworld>
somebody has to do it
<Anton{Politoed}>
this appointment is something turb and I make without really asking for a vote but
<Superchao>
i'd support MK doing it
<Superchao>
he's integral to two-thirds of the awards in question
<Anton{Politoed}>
I just want to make sure everyone's happy with it
<Superchao>
might as well give him the last third while we're at it, right
<Meta_Knight>
i should be able to do it
<Anton{Politoed}>
yeah, my idea was Meta Knight this year
<Freakworld>
i say let anton and turb decide it
<Lord_Bowser>
the thing is though
<turb>
i was one of the people making the appointment so clearly i oppose it
<turb>
jk jk
<Lord_Bowser>
will this be a standard
<Lakituthequick>
am okay with it if mk is
<Freakworld>
id be fine with k though
<turb>
supporting
<Lord_Bowser>
shroom director being community awards host
<Freakworld>
mk
<Anton{Politoed}>
and in future years to prioritize Shroom Directors and Staff
<Lord_Bowser>
oh okay
<meowth>
hi did i miss things
<turb>
if mk feels he needs any help with the position i'll help him out with it
<Superchao>
hi
<Superchao>
a few
<Superchao>
we decided to finalize some merger details
<Meta_Knight>
yeah i already asked turb for advice before and he was helpful
<Meta_Knight>
so despite me never having hosted a ceremony before i should be fine
<Anton{Politoed}>
duties of the ceremony hosts typically entail making the bigger decisions regarding their ceremony
<Anton{Politoed}>
to present later to the whole AC
<Freakworld>
for us to say no
<Superchao>
i believe tallying's still part of that, too
<Superchao>
unless you guys changed it since then
<Anton{Politoed}>
so this would mean the decisions regarding the awards cut/retained, and other changes to the actual polls would be done by Meta Knight
<Anton{Politoed}>
and confirmed by a vote in here
<Anton{Politoed}>
and yeah tallying
<Anton{Politoed}>
in the past there's sub-committees for this
<Anton{Politoed}>
so basically
<Anton{Politoed}>
shroom staff historically would handle this in special meetings
<Superchao>
question: does that include the initial decision of what user awards to cut and which to retain?
<Superchao>
or will we be confirming that today?
<Anton{Politoed}>
it would include that, yeah
<Superchao>
ok
<Anton{Politoed}>
but I believe on the forum there's a good template to work with
<Freakworld>
#saveu7
<Anton{Politoed}>
for the most part in https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=38354.0 there's not much variation
<Anton{Politoed}>
with just some minor debate on U4
<shoutmon>
which one even is u7
<Lord_Bowser>
to be completely honest i'm not sure if shroom staff should be able to vote on cutting user awards mostly cause it's not exactly their jurisdiction
<Freakworld>
favorite community lets player
<Anton{Politoed}>
it is their jurisdiction now
<Anton{Politoed}>
the ceremonies have merged
<Freakworld>
the one i supported and presented
<Anton{Politoed}>
it's no longer a question
<turb>
i mean to be fair
<turb>
shroom staff are also in charge of a community aspect
<Freakworld>
(i dont actually want it to stay)
<Anton{Politoed}>
and keep in mind that decisions they make aren't final
<Anton{Politoed}>
we still have to vote on them in the AC
<Meta_Knight>
also im able to oversee everything
<Anton{Politoed}>
(((as well as there being a ton of overlap between the actual people staffing each so lol))))
<turb>
and most of them have at least a basic knowledge of what the awards are about
<turb>
and yeah that
<turb>
overlap/system of checks and balances
<Meta_Knight>
yeah anton is a staff member too lol
<Lord_Bowser>
well alright then
<Superchao>
you cannot escape his hypnotic gaze
<Anton{Politoed}>
@u@
<Nyrie>
owo
<Anton{Politoed}>
are there any other general concerns regarding merger details?
<Anton{Politoed}>
a general preference towards which awards to keep and get rid of is already written in the merger thread
<Superchao>
i got nothing
<Anton{Politoed}>
and I see no reason why the shroom staff would diverge from that dramatically
<Freakworld>
1% divergence
<turb>
nothing i can think of that's also relevant to this meeting and not shroom staff ones lol
<Anton{Politoed}>
ok !
<turb>
also yeah i'd like to reassure everyone the ac always gets final say on everything related to awards
<Anton{Politoed}>
next up would be token talk
<Meta_Knight>
yeah if i have any questions about what im supposed to do or whatever i'll just ask anton and/or turb after the meeting
<Freakworld>
still per the the /10 cut
<Anton{Politoed}>
edo and I have talked about this quite a bit outside of meetings and the forum and we're a bit at ends on what to do
<Anton{Politoed}>
the disagreement mostly is based on me not fully understanding what will be done and when
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<Anton{Politoed}>
so most of my criticisms might not actually be valid simply because I'm not working with a full deck
<Freakworld>
as soon as possible imo
<Meta_Knight>
i understand that major concern is what this will do to prize rates right
<Anton{Politoed}>
yes
<ARFU>
im here
<Freakworld>
hes here
<Anton{Politoed}>
what I want to figure out is what will be handled when
<Anton{Politoed}>
I asked edo to bring this up during the meeting if it became a topic but he's afk or something right now so we won't be making any decisions about it
<Meta_Knight>
unfortunately i dont know a thing about how to calculate prize rates
<Anton{Politoed}>
but what I'll do just for the next few minutes is open up for any concerns and questions regarding what we're doing
<Anton{Politoed}>
refer to: https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=38355.0
<Anton{Politoed}>
my top thing I want to know is a timeline of what decision will be made when
<Anton{Politoed}>
i.e.
<Anton{Politoed}>
by when should we decide /10 or something
<Anton{Politoed}>
by when should we determine prize rates
<Freakworld>
[01:25] Freakworld as soon as possible imo
<Anton{Politoed}>
by when should we determine how much tournaments are allowed to give out
<Freakworld>
to the first one
<Anton{Politoed}>
asap isn't a date
<turb>
i mean we also need to know when we're rolling this out sequentially is the thing
<Freakworld>
within the next meeting
<turb>
like decide /10 one week, then prize rates, then etc
<ARFU>
i think we should give the /10 thing a week or so to make sure everyone gets their thoughts in
<Freakworld>
is my definition of adap
<turb>
order and structure
<Freakworld>
*asap
<turb>
"asap" is a given
<Meta_Knight>
at least one step of the process should be done at most the start of april
<Freakworld>
so yeah a week for that
<Anton{Politoed}>
my concern was that it's impossible to fully see how /10 will affect things without the context of its effect on prize rates and token distribution
<Anton{Politoed}>
but edo assured me that it wasn't necessary
<Anton{Politoed}>
I did not understand how
<Freakworld>
and then get ready to communicate the change also as fast as possible before we get into calamities
<Anton{Politoed}>
which is why I've decided to defer this topic to him
<Anton{Politoed}>
and just OK big things
<Freakworld>
with tournaments starting up or w/e
<Anton{Politoed}>
afaik turb agrees with that
<turb>
yeah
<Lord_Bowser>
it would be best to wait for edo then
<Freakworld>
y
<Anton{Politoed}>
so yeah if there's any huge concerns just like
<Anton{Politoed}>
lob them here right now or into that thread
<turb>
anton do you want to do mario awards in the meantime
<turb>
like, after people get in some more thoughts about this
<Anton{Politoed}>
and I'll communicate with edo later on what we'll do and continue to have that topic active
<Anton{Politoed}>
and yeah
<Anton{Politoed}>
I had one kinda small question for Lakituthequick though since he's a person who knows things
<Lakituthequick>
yeah?
<Anton{Politoed}>
ltq do you know a way to copy the values of a column in google sheets from one document to another
I'll probably just make the 2016 one a separate sheet and just use it for the data
<Anton{Politoed}>
so, where we left off was:
<Anton{Politoed}>
M8 Favorite Art Style (Retro Style sprites, Yoshi’s Island style, Donkey Kong Country style, Main series 3D style, Paper Mario style, Mario & Luigi style, Yoshi’s Story style, Yoshi’s Woolly World style, Wario Land: Shake It! style, Super Mario RPG style, Super Mario Strikers style)
<DragonFreak>
i dont think there's any new ones
<Anton{Politoed}>
10) Super Mario RPG style — 71 — 2.73% 11) Yoshi’s Story style — 33 — 1.27% 12) O. Game & Wario/ Rhythm Heaven style — 1 — 0.04% 12) O. SNES-era Artwork style — 1 — 0.04%
<Freakworld>
why is series not capitalized again
<Freakworld>
convention?
<Freakworld>
or did we have a good reason for it
<Freakworld>
idr
<Freakworld>
in main series
<Anton{Politoed}>
because it's not part of a game name
<Freakworld>
okay so convention
<turb>
oh
<Freakworld>
ok
<Nyrie>
what about Retro Style
<turb>
we have Retro Style capitalized
<turb>
yeah
<Anton{Politoed}>
i'll fix that
<Nyrie>
sounds good
<Freakworld>
good
<Lord_Bowser>
besides retro style i don't think anything needs changing
<Nyrie>
^
<meowth>
besides Capital Letters i don't think anything really needs to be changed here
<Anton{Politoed}>
did any of the new games introduce any new style
<Freakworld>
so none of the writeins are useful
<Nyrie>
no
<Lord_Bowser>
nope
<Anton{Politoed}>
I think the only thing I've seen is that they've created more detailed models but __
<ARFU>
i think this one's fine
<Freakworld>
i wouldnt reove anything in an 11 options awards
<Freakworld>
*award
<Freakworld>
lets move on
<Anton{Politoed}>
M8 is good then
<Anton{Politoed}>
up next
<Anton{Politoed}>
M9 Favorite DLC (The Legend of Zelda × Mario Kart 8, Animal Crossing × Mario Kart 8, Mercedes-Benz × Mario Kart 8, New Super Luigi U, New Super Mario Bros. 2 Coin Rush packs, Mario Golf: World Tour Season Pass, Peach's Castle stage (SSB4), Super Mario Maker stage (SSB4))
<Anton{Politoed}>
as of last year that's all-inclusive
<Freakworld>
add the uh
<Freakworld>
in app purchases in mario run
<Freakworld>
or well
<Freakworld>
the one there is
<Lakituthequick>
what do those add?
<Anton{Politoed}>
are those dlc
<Freakworld>
5 worlds
<Lord_Bowser>
wasn't there a mario pack for minecraft wii u
<Lord_Bowser>
or something like thay
<Lord_Bowser>
that*
<Anton{Politoed}>
good idea lb
<Meta_Knight>
that comes with it
<Lakituthequick>
5 already in the code worlds or
<Freakworld>
yes
<Freakworld>
still dlc
<Lakituthequick>
hm
<ARFU>
i forgot mario run existed lmao
<Meta_Knight>
when i got minecraft for wii u the mario stuff was already on itt
<Freakworld>
capcom dlc is always on dsic already as well
<Anton{Politoed}>
this is a definition unique to it being a mobile game
<Freakworld>
see resident evil 6
<Anton{Politoed}>
I believe
<Lord_Bowser>
was the game itself released before the pack though mk
<Freakworld>
its still dlc
<Anton{Politoed}>
mobile games almost always have in-app purchases
<turb>
oh the minecraf tthing might be applicable
<ARFU>
do we consider in app purchases dlc?
<Meta_Knight>
i didnt thinnk about that
<Lord_Bowser>
just the base game i mean
<turb>
idk abou t the mario run thing
<Anton{Politoed}>
otherwise they don't generate income other than selling your location
<Lord_Bowser>
let me double check
<Freakworld>
Anton{Politoed}: games nowadays almost always have dlc
<Anton{Politoed}>
we have no precedent for mobile games
<turb>
im pretty sure that minecraft wii u came out before the mario pack
<Freakworld>
its the same concept in my book
<Freakworld>
unless any official source objects
<Anton{Politoed}>
so we can't just accept it without a decision
<Meta_Knight>
how many nominees does this have
<ARFU>
i dont really think it fits into the list of DLC's we already have
<Lakituthequick>
8
<Meta_Knight>
okay
<Lord_Bowser>
5:40 PM <turb> im pretty sure that minecraft wii u came out before the mario pack
<Lord_Bowser>
can confirm it did
<Meta_Knight>
we could add mario run and minecraft without having to cut anything
google shows most sources reporting "nintendo has no intentions for super mario run dlc"
<Anton{Politoed}>
but one that says "free toad dlc"
<Freakworld>
*******no intentions for additional dlc
<Anton{Politoed}>
time to find out if this is just shitty writing or actually something
<Freakworld>
no toad is uh
<Freakworld>
unlockable
<Freakworld>
for free
<Freakworld>
in a sense
<Freakworld>
its hard to explain
<Anton{Politoed}>
it gives no details so shitty writing yeah
<Freakworld>
has to do with my nintendo rewards
<Freakworld>
i have the game and the in app purchase so
<meowth>
i don't really know much about minecraft or smr so i'll let more knowledgeable handle this one
<Lord_Bowser>
minecraft should be added imo
<shoutmon>
i dont think mario run is dlc
<ARFU>
'Speaking with the Wall Street Journal, a Nintendo spokesperson said the company has no plans to launch additional content for Super Mario Run. That includes free and paid DLC, both of which seemed like possibilities given that Nintendo has, like the rest of the industry, begun supporting its console and portable games with such content.'
<Lord_Bowser>
as for smr i don't think it really qualifies
<ARFU>
that seems like a no in terms of dlc
<shoutmon>
the part you pay for is the main content of the game
<Lord_Bowser>
^
<shoutmon>
the rest is a relatively short free demo
<Nyrie>
yeah
<meowth>
though if were thinking about minecraft then does that one yoshi level i'm fairly sure exists for sonic lost world apply or is that an update
<Freakworld>
the question is how is the additional content net by paying not addition content
<Freakworld>
i dont see it
<Freakworld>
the difference shouldnt be about how much content there is
<Freakworld>
but if the content is actually accessaible from the start
<Freakworld>
idk thats my stance
<Anton{Politoed}>
are there any other nominees on the award that are similar to what Super Mario Run does
<Freakworld>
*accessible
<Freakworld>
no
<Lord_Bowser>
not really
<turb>
no
<turb>
not even nslu i dont think
<ARFU>
i dont believe so, anton
<Anton{Politoed}>
this is an awkward decision; I personally side with 22's definition for it
<Freakworld>
nslu doesnt really add ore content than what was already there
<DragonFreak>
my opinion, per 22 on smr but as for wii u it's kind of a toss up with minecraft for me
<Anton{Politoed}>
but out of fairness let's put it to a vote
<Freakworld>
*more
<Freakworld>
its just smr is clearly dlc for me
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Does Super Mario Run's in-app purchases count as DLC to subsequently be added to M8? (Y/N/A)
<Nyrie>
\n
<DragonFreak>
n
<turb>
n
<ARFU>
N
<Freakworld>
y
<Meta_Knight>
n
<Lakituthequick>
n
<Superchao>
a
<Lord_Bowser>
n
<Anton{Politoed}>
n
<Meta_Knight>
seems more like microtransactions
<shoutmon>
n
<meowth>
a
<Freakworld>
i mean fyi it does download something after you do the purchase
<Lord_Bowser>
1-9-2
<Freakworld>
but i assume its just unlocking stuff
<Lakituthequick>
what does it download then
<meowth>
1-8-2
<Freakworld>
like
<Freakworld>
1 mb
<Lord_Bowser>
oh oop
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<Lakituthequick>
so it downloads a key to the content and not the content itself
<Freakworld>
i mean fwiw the dlc in nsmb2 wasnt really bigger than that
<Freakworld>
yes
<Freakworld>
like i said
<Freakworld>
thats what capcom for example does as well
<Freakworld>
and theres no dbate whether thats dlc or not
<Freakworld>
so thats why im pretty set on the issue
<Gamefreak75>
im here now
<Lakituthequick>
its clear what nintendos intend is with run though
<Anton{Politoed}>
Super Mario Run's stuff will not be added to M9
<ARFU>
it just doesnt seem like dlc with run
<Freakworld>
i mean nobody here agrees with me so it doesnt matter
<Anton{Politoed}>
further discussion can be made on the forum if the intention is to redo the vote later on, which has been done before
<Anton{Politoed}>
but as for now let's move on
<Anton{Politoed}>
what's this about the minecraft stuff
<Lord_Bowser>
http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Wii_U_Edition
<Lord_Bowser>
this says the mario pack was indeed dlc
<Freakworld>
i say its dlc if it isnt part of a mandatory update of the game
<Lord_Bowser>
the base game was on the eshop a few months prior
<Lord_Bowser>
but was rereleased when the pack came out
<Lord_Bowser>
i still say it qualifies as dlc though
<Lakituthequick>
so is it possible to /not/ install the mario pack
<Lord_Bowser>
also the rerelease was more expensive
<Freakworld>
This edition is bundled with seven add-on packs, and sixteen additional packs are also available as downloadable content
<Freakworld>
per ltq
<Freakworld>
it depends on whether its an optional thing or not
<Lord_Bowser>
if you had bought it before the rerelase then it should be
"The Super Mario Mash-Up Pack was released as downloadable content on May 17, 2016, though it comes bundled with the physical edition. It was developed in conjunction with Nintendo.[3] "
<Lakituthequick>
its not dlc
<Anton{Politoed}>
the wiki defines it as DLC so I'm deferring to that
<Freakworld>
ok
<Lord_Bowser>
yeah it's dlc then
<Anton{Politoed}>
[3] is http://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/detail/super-mario-mash-up-pack-for-minecraft-wii-U-edition
<Freakworld>
its definietely dlc
<Freakworld>
doesnt matter if it was bundled with the phsycial games
<Freakworld>
*game
<Lakituthequick>
"After downloading the update, players who own the Minecraft: Wii U Edition digital game, which launched last December, will have immediate access to new skins, a Super Mario-themed pre-made world and a set of Super Mario-themed music and item textures."
<ARFU>
lets add this to the list
<Freakworld>
i mean im inclined to say its dlc if the wiki says it is
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Add "Super Mario Mash-Up Pack for Minecraft: Wii U Edition" to M9? (Y/N/A)
<Lakituthequick>
this impled its an update
<Freakworld>
y
<Lord_Bowser>
y
<ARFU>
Y
<Lakituthequick>
n
<DragonFreak>
y
<turb>
y
<Meta_Knight>
y
<Anton{Politoed}>
ltq where is that quote
<Lakituthequick>
in the article ypu linked
<Superchao>
y
<Anton{Politoed}>
nvm found it yeah
<Lakituthequick>
second paragraph
<Nyrie>
y
<Lord_Bowser>
but ltq was it required
<turb>
idk im unsure about it
<Lord_Bowser>
or could you bypass it
<Anton{Politoed}>
it's a bundle
<Lakituthequick>
On May 17, the Super Mario Mash-Up Pack comes to Minecraft: Wii U Edition as a >>>free game update<<.
<Freakworld>
you could not download the update
<Freakworld>
but thats not the point
<shoutmon>
n
<turb>
so i should probably change to A but
<turb>
i guess ill change from y to a
<Freakworld>
ill leave it on y with the wiki article as a basis
<Anton{Politoed}>
so there's conflicting definitions from nintendo itself
<shoutmon>
i dont consider any mandatory update to be dlc
<turb>
like it would "fit" on the award but as is i'm not sure its actually "dlc" if its mandatory
<Anton{Politoed}>
for an already tough-to-define award
<Lord_Bowser>
the thing is
<turb>
was mercedes benz mandatory
<Lord_Bowser>
was it mandatory
<Lakituthequick>
it wasnt
<Freakworld>
no turb
<turb>
ok
<DragonFreak>
yeah idk what even is considered to be dlc so
<Lord_Bowser>
so it's dlc then
<turb>
i wasnt sure if it came with 200c or not
<DragonFreak>
change y to a
<Anton{Politoed}>
it's only mandatory if you buy the one with the bundle
<Freakworld>
dlc are optional things in games you can download but you dont have to
<Lord_Bowser>
if it's not mandatory it's dlc imo
<Anton{Politoed}>
I'll vote y
<Freakworld>
like the 5 extra worlds in super mario run for example
<Freakworld>
4Head
<Anton{Politoed}>
but whatever decision is made I'll put a note on M9 that when we go back over the awards later on to give this one another thorough check
<Freakworld>
fair enough
<Freakworld>
also check if the wiki article still says its dlc
<Freakworld>
thats what i based my vote on anyways
<Anton{Politoed}>
yeah
<Lord_Bowser>
so for the time being will it be added or not
<ARFU>
so what's the vote count?
<Freakworld>
meowth:
<Anton{Politoed}>
leaning y
<shoutmon>
i always thought of dlc as being the latter day version of an expansion pack
<DragonFreak>
brb
<shoutmon>
something you pay extra for to add additional content to a base game
<Freakworld>
expansion pack you mean as in
<ARFU>
i think if its just leaning Y we should really give it more thought
<Anton{Politoed}>
I'll do this
<meowth>
i'm sorry i was in a weird time warp
<Anton{Politoed}>
I'll put Super Mario Mash-Up Pack for Minecraft: Wii U Edition on the award right now
<meowth>
a
<Freakworld>
age of empires 2 the conquestadors or w/e
<shoutmon>
expansion pack as in the thing smg2 should have been
<Anton{Politoed}>
but after this meeting I will create a topic to create a set definition on DLC for this award
<Lord_Bowser>
sounds fair
<Freakworld>
smg2 was a good expansion pack though
<Freakworld>
very good
<shoutmon>
ill kill you
<shoutmon>
anyway
<Lakituthequick>
anton
<shoutmon>
dont forget the sonic yoshi thing
<Lakituthequick>
should Minecraft: Wii U Edition be within brackets
<shoutmon>
if minecraft counts, it should too
<Lakituthequick>
instead of the 'for' infix
<Freakworld>
oh
<Freakworld>
oh that
<Freakworld>
i forgot about that
<Freakworld>
yeah that was definitely optional in sonic lost world
<Anton{Politoed}>
I set the vote for Super Mario Mash-Up Pack for Minecraft: Wii U Edition and that's what people voted y on
<ARFU>
yeah, i think the sonic one counts
<Anton{Politoed}>
so that's what I did
<Freakworld>
if thats not dlc idk what is
<DragonFreak>
back
<Anton{Politoed}>
that was how I saw it referred to in other publications
<Lakituthequick>
well i mean
<Lakituthequick>
SSB4 is also within brackets
<shoutmon>
i wouldnt actually consider the sonic thing dlc but if minecraft is, sonic is
<turb>
^
<shoutmon>
theyre almost in the exact same situation as far as i can tell
<Anton{Politoed}>
how about
<Anton{Politoed}>
we not decide anything
<Anton{Politoed}>
and I just make a topic for this
<Anton{Politoed}>
I'm doing that
<Lord_Bowser>
i think that would be better
<Freakworld>
no the sonic one definitely wasnt part of a regular update
<Anton{Politoed}>
so we don't spend the entire meeting doing what can be done on the forum
also they were in nsmb2 as well so thats actually 7 games
<Lakituthequick>
what term did walkazo use for bowsers species
<Lakituthequick>
dragonkoopas i think
<DragonFreak>
dragon-koopa
<Lord_Bowser>
for real though nothing is really worth adding
<Anton{Politoed}>
24) O. Pixls — 2 — 0.08%
<Superchao>
that's not an official term though
<Lakituthequick>
true
<Lakituthequick>
but its nice
<turb>
id say move on and not add anything
<Freakworld>
kek pixls
<Superchao>
anyhow yeah, leave as is
<Anton{Politoed}>
moving on
<Anton{Politoed}>
M15 Hardest Boss (Shadow Queen, Bonetail, Cackletta’s Soul, Culex, Elder Princess Shroob, Bowser (Paper Mario), Bowser X (Mario & Luigi: Bowser’s Inside Story), Smithy, The Master (Final Form), Dreamy Bowser, Master Core/Fortress, Phantamanta, Boolossus, Kamek & Paper Kamek)
<Anton{Politoed}>
12) The Master (final form) — 74 — 3.14% 13) Kamek & Paper Kamek — 52 — 2.21% 14) Smithy — 45 — 1.91% 15) O. Bouldergeist — 13 — 0.55% 16) O. Dark Bowser — 9 — 0.38%
<DragonFreak>
is there anything from color splash?
<Anton{Politoed}>
gay bowser
<Freakworld>
not that i know
<shoutmon>
color splash had the same kind of puzzle bosses as sticker star
<Lord_Bowser>
i don't recall anyone citing particularly hard fights from cs
<Nyrie>
nothing in cs
<Superchao>
so, bullshit hard
<Lakituthequick>
i could see gay bowser as a blooper writein
<Anton{Politoed}>
wait no gay bowser was the other game wasn't it
<Lord_Bowser>
brb writing in
<Nyrie>
no
<Anton{Politoed}>
dream team
<shoutmon>
gay bowser was from mario 64
<Nyrie>
color splash bosses are stupid easy
<Lord_Bowser>
dreamy bowser anton yeah
<Lord_Bowser>
also doesn't bowser get a rainbow shell in cs
<shoutmon>
no, he thinks about it
<Anton{Politoed}>
https://www.mariowiki.com/Black_Bowser
<Lord_Bowser>
oh
<shoutmon>
but he ends up dying himself emo instead
<Nyrie>
that final boss wasnt hard at all
<Lord_Bowser>
sad
<Nyrie>
@ Black Bowser
<Nyrie>
trust me its even easier than like half of the koopalings
<Anton{Politoed}>
i'll defer to nyrie, as someone who's actually played the game unlike me
<DragonFreak>
my is bowser so emo
<DragonFreak>
*why is
<Anton{Politoed}>
is anything worth being removed
<Nyrie>
the hardest boss is larry but even then hes not that difficult
<shoutmon>
because he mixed all the paint colors together to try and make his shell gay
<Nyrie>
you just have to spam Thing cards
<shoutmon>
but when you mix all the colors you get black
<Freakworld>
but if he mixed them all
<Anton{Politoed}>
smithy is the lowest placed nominee
<Freakworld>
shouldnt it be white
<meowth>
master core is blue i guess until we come to a smash decision
<shoutmon>
no?
<Anton{Politoed}>
that's light, fw
<Anton{Politoed}>
pigment would mix to black
<turb>
thats not how paint works
<DragonFreak>
cant bowser just be gay without colors
<Freakworld>
fuck paint
<DragonFreak>
white is the absent of colors
<turb>
anyways uh looking at the results
<meowth>
i don't think anything should be removed though
<Superchao>
but he's not gay enough
<Lord_Bowser>
"There's no such thing as straight people, Mario!"
<turb>
nothing looks like its worth removing
<Anton{Politoed}>
moving on
<Anton{Politoed}>
M16 Favorite Item (Tanooki Suit/Super Leaf, Super Star/Starman, Fire Flower, Mega Mushroom, Metal Cap, Wing Cap, Bullet Bill, Propeller Mushroom, Penguin Suit, Cloud Flower, Cape Feather, Gold Flower, Cat Suit/Super Bell, Double Cherry, Super Horn, Mystery Mushroom)
<Anton{Politoed}>
15) Bullet Bill — 80 — 3.08% 15) Super Horn — 80 — 3.08% 17) O. Blue Shell — 28 — 1.08% 18) O. Hammer Suit — 17 — 0.66%
<Lakituthequick>
`did smr etc?
<Freakworld>
no
<shoutmon>
i dont hthink anyone's gonna love pink coins
<Anton{Politoed}>
looking at the list and I don't see anything
<turb>
theres already a lot of nominees here
<turb>
plus nothing got high enough i dont htink
<Lakituthequick>
pink coints are in m22 already so
<Lakituthequick>
*coins
<turb>
i cannot fucking vbelieve 28 people voted blue shell as best item
<meowth>
i think this one is fine
<Lord_Bowser>
nothing really screams add/remove to me
<Freakworld>
no new items in smr
<Freakworld>
afaik
<meowth>
people liked the blue shell l o l
<shoutmon>
tfw the hammer suit is this low
<Superchao>
maybe they just like to see people suffer
<Anton{Politoed}>
what about cards
<Freakworld>
i played it so
<Anton{Politoed}>
from color splash
<Anton{Politoed}>
is that a thing
<Lord_Bowser>
what about the nsmb blue shell
<shoutmon>
also no, not those pink coins
<Gamefreak75>
i think its the nsmb blue shell
<Gamefreak75>
which is amazing
<turb>
oh
<shoutmon>
the pink coins from super mario run
<turb>
if it is that makes sense
<meowth>
o
<Lakituthequick>
are cards really items in that sence though
<Freakworld>
idk is stickers an items
<turb>
the blue shell from nsmb was great
<shoutmon>
they work like dragon coins from smw afaik
<Freakworld>
id say stickers arent items
<Superchao>
stickers were classed as a concept not an item iirc
<Freakworld>
so cards arent either
<Freakworld>
they contain items
<Anton{Politoed}>
ok
<Anton{Politoed}>
so no changes
<meowth>
i havent played color splash but from what i hear about it itd go in the same area as stickers ie concept
<Anton{Politoed}>
M17 Favorite Mario RPG (Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars, Paper Mario, Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time, Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, Super Paper Mario, Paper Mario: Sticker Star, Mario & Luigi: Dream Team, Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Bros. Edition,
<Anton{Politoed}>
Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam)
<Freakworld>
add color splash
<meowth>
color splash probably
<DragonFreak>
yeah
<Freakworld>
else leave
<Superchao>
added spolor clash
<turb>
color splash and move on i think
<meowth>
i dont think that one needs a vote in all honesty
<meowth>
just throw it on there
<Anton{Politoed}>
yeah i'll add that, this is mostly a given yeah
<Lord_Bowser>
yeah just add color splash
<Freakworld>
WAIT
<Superchao>
!?
<Lakituthequick>
[Sat 02:57:38] Superchao added spolor clash
<meowth>
Oh No
<Freakworld>
according to bill trinen its an action adventure
<Freakworld>
what do we do now
<turb>
no fuck bill aaskhdjsdh
<Lakituthequick>
Paper Mario: Spoiler Clash
<Superchao>
remove it and sticker star
<Superchao>
clearly
<shoutmon>
add golf
<meowth>
no bill
<turb>
Genre: Action-adventure game
<Freakworld>
(really just move on)
<Anton{Politoed}>
lightning round
<turb>
NO
<Superchao>
no, add tennis
<turb>
Paper Mario: Color Splash is an action-adventure video game developed by Intelligent Systems and published by Nintendo for the Wii U. The game was released worldwide in October 2016.
<turb>
NOOOOOOO
<Superchao>
that was the one that one guy kept clamoring for
<DragonFreak>
ooo lightninng
<Freakworld>
add mario power tennis on the gba
<turb>
ok just add it and move on lol
<DragonFreak>
oh
<Anton{Politoed}>
M18 Favorite Mario Party Game (Mario Party, Mario Party 2, Mario Party 3, Mario Party 4, Mario Party 5, Mario Party 6, Mario Party Advance, Mario Party 7, Mario Party DS, Mario Party 8, Mario Party 9, Mario Party: Island Tour, Mario Party 10)
<Superchao>
zzzzzz
<Anton{Politoed}>
add whatever and that's it
<DragonFreak>
skip
<DragonFreak>
wait is there a new one?
<Anton{Politoed}>
wait is it already on
<shoutmon>
star rush
<DragonFreak>
oh right
<Freakworld>
add star flush
<turb>
add star rush and move on
<Anton{Politoed}>
there it is
<Freakworld>
aka fire emblem
<meowth>
stair rash
<Freakworld>
but mario party
<Superchao>
add tsar crush
<DragonFreak>
starfish
<Freakworld>
catfish
<Anton{Politoed}>
next is M19
<Anton{Politoed}>
which we can't even decide on yet
<Anton{Politoed}>
so
<Superchao>
whole thing's unsure
<Freakworld>
isnt the meeting over
<Anton{Politoed}>
we're ending like 10 seconds early tonight
<DragonFreak>
we did it!
<Lakituthequick>
woo
<DragonFreak>
again!
<Lakituthequick>
:toot:
<Freakworld>
well my battery is also empty
<turb>
i wanted to do sports game just for the sake of slapping superstars on and leaving
DragonFreakopens the wine
<turb>
but its ok
<Freakworld>
just on time
<Superchao>
i'll use those ten seconds to buy an ice cream when i'm 79
<shoutmon>
by my clock we ended 6 seconds late
<turb>
we got through it
DragonFreakpours it on lb
<Lord_Bowser>
woohoo
<Superchao>
and then i'll think of yu
<Freakworld>
good night everyone
<Superchao>
and thank you, anton
<Lord_Bowser>
hey
<Lord_Bowser>
why me
<turb>
yeah it was 7 by the time people asked if it was over
<DragonFreak>
idk
<turb>
thank you
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<turb>
good night
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<Anton{Politoed}>
I'll get around to making the 400 threads
<Anton{Politoed}>
next meeting is on saturday instead of friday
<DragonFreak>
nice im off
<Anton{Politoed}>
or """""""sunday"" instead of """"saturday" if timezones
<Anton{Politoed}>
there will be a reminder sent out
<Superchao>
i can do it
<Lord_Bowser>
i should be able to make that
<Anton{Politoed}>
turb i almost always work saturday nights but I don't think next meeting necessitates my presence
<Anton{Politoed}>
so lube up
<turb>
o boy
<turb>
let's just lay out topics of discussion early
<turb>
and ill try to not shit myself in the directors seat after like 3 years out of work
<Anton{Politoed}>
thankfully tonight we had a bunch of easy awards
<Anton{Politoed}>
near the end
<turb>
actually i was surprised
<Anton{Politoed}>
because i was getting increasingly frustrated with how many things we couldn't decide on
<turb>
i thought we'd be debating hardest boss way harder than we did