edo made that post which cleared some of my concerns up
<Anton{Politoed}>
and unless anyone absolutely hates the layout he set up and have decided not to mention anything about it until literally right now just for the sake of throwing a curveball
<Anton{Politoed}>
I intend on following that
<Superchao>
i'm down for that
<Lord_Bowser>
i like his plan and would work with it
<Anton{Politoed}>
so step 1
<Anton{Politoed}>
1. Make a decision on how to handle token deflation
<GBAToad>
per, we just need to decide on how much we'll cut tokens by and work through the rest
the leading idea is /10, decision on floor/round/ceiling pending
<Anton{Politoed}>
but does anyone really feel that any of the other options make enough of a difference
<dia>
i want to throw a curveball but i cant think of anything
<dia>
so i agree
<GBAToad>
im now in agreeance with edo in that we should do floor /10 because then it reduces tokens significantly and also resets tokens for people who haven't been active in years
<turb>
the other options are only really noticeable with higher numbers
<Lord_Bowser>
i wouldn't oppose /10 but /8 seems to get the job done without being as harsh
<turb>
im fine with /10 or /8 imo
<Lord_Bowser>
but people have mentioned /8 would be weird for calculations which is a valid point
<dia>
i dont really see a huge difference between /8 and /10
<dia>
its not a huge factor
<Superchao>
i kinda like /10 better since it's so much easier to eyeball the change
<dia>
yeah, i like /10 because its simpler
<shoutmon>
i prefer 10 too
<Anton{Politoed}>
I personally prefer Round because that's what we here in the US at least have been taught to do with numbers
<Meta_Knight>
8 makes things awkward
<turb>
i mean /10 is both easy to eyeball and ensures we get rid of the problem
<turb>
so im good with it
<dia>
round?
<Anton{Politoed}>
I literally did not know what floor and ceiling were for a good like 3 minutes while I stared at the sheet
<Anton{Politoed}>
1-4 round down, 5-9 round up
<dia>
oh
<Lord_Bowser>
floor is always down, ceiling is always up, personally i prefer floor
<Anton{Politoed}>
floor is round down no matter what, ceiling is round up no matter what
<dia>
i prefer rounding, i dont like floor/ceiling
<Anton{Politoed}>
I don't like floor because you'll get things like banjo
<Anton{Politoed}>
who has 129 tokens
<Anton{Politoed}>
it'll be cut to 12
<Anton{Politoed}>
with round making it 13
<turb>
i prefer rounding myself
<Anton{Politoed}>
it's not a huge difference but I feel that it's unfair enough to avoid doing that
<turb>
it's more specific
<turb>
yeah
<dia>
yeah
<dia>
i agree
<turb>
ceiling is kind of awkward
<Lord_Bowser>
i mean tbf it is only one token so it's not like the end of the world
<Superchao>
per
<Lord_Bowser>
but i see what you mean
<GBAToad>
i was mostly focusing on the zeros but when you put it like that then round /10 seems like the best option
<GBAToad>
so per that
<shoutmon>
floor is what makes sense to me but i think its just from years of fixed point arithmatic
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<turb>
i think i would be ok with floor or round fwiw
<turb>
i prefer round though
<Lakituthequick>
ceil is better imo because then you at least keep one token if you have at least one
<turb>
not really feeling ceiling here
<Lord_Bowser>
i wouldn't mind either floor or round
<Lord_Bowser>
i see benefits in both
<Anton{Politoed}>
ok so /10 seems to be the one people are accepting so I won't leave that as a vote
<Lord_Bowser>
but i guess if i had to choose then floor cause might as well weed out all the excess tokens we can
<Anton{Politoed}>
but what I'll do is:
<dia>
i'd prefer ceiling or round
<dia>
i think rounding up or just rounding normally is more fair
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: /10 (Floor/Round/Ceiling)
<Anton{Politoed}>
Round
<dia>
its a game of inches at that point so
<dia>
Round
<Superchao>
round
<Lord_Bowser>
Floor
<Meta_Knight>
round
<GBAToad>
floor /10 weeds out as many tokens as possible, ceiling leaves people with 1 token at least, but rounding is objectively the fairest
<Superchao>
[s]i'd prefer square, though[/s]
<GBAToad>
round
<DragonFreak>
round
<Lakituthequick>
r
<Anton{Politoed}>
good idea we'll just ^2 everyone's tokens
<shoutmon>
f
<Lakituthequick>
[Sun 01:11:45] Anton{Politoed} good idea we'll just ^2 everyone's tokens
<Lakituthequick>
yes
<Lakituthequick>
brb
<turb>
round
<Anton{Politoed}>
cirdec would have 896809
<Anton{Politoed}>
seems fair
<turb>
brilliant
<GBAToad>
"pass"
<Anton{Politoed}>
ltq coming in clutch with the visualization
<Anton{Politoed}>
meowth: are you alive
<Lakituthequick>
dun
<Lord_Bowser>
2-7-0
<Anton{Politoed}>
shit i'm gonna have to learn how to count no------thx lb
<Lord_Bowser>
👍
<meowth>
yes
<meowth>
im not anymore though
<meowth>
i'll be back
<Lord_Bowser>
can i nominate myself as backup smasher /s
<DragonFreak>
y
<Anton{Politoed}>
that's 7 out of 9 votes out of a possible 13 present in the meeting out of 18 total
<Anton{Politoed}>
I'd say that's good enough
<turb>
whats y for
<DragonFreak>
for lb being replacement smasher
<DragonFreak>
i voted yes
<Anton{Politoed}>
with that, what we (me turb whoever) have to do next is set up the token sheet with the new totals asap and then inform everyone of what was done
<Anton{Politoed}>
and then continue edo's guideline with
<Anton{Politoed}>
2. Gauge interest in hosting tournaments, map out a tentative list of likely tournaments from that, and try to determine how many tokens that will add to circulation
<turb>
o
<Anton{Politoed}>
which we can do in the background idly for the next however long
where we set out to create a set definition to base nominees on instead of going "ehhhhh idk" on each one
<dia>
idk
<dia>
i like edo's definition
<Anton{Politoed}>
there were some ideas but the only actual scripted definition posted was:
<Anton{Politoed}>
"An optional extension package that introduces new content to the core game. It is purchased once, separately or in a bundle, and does not come with the core game by default. After purchase, access to the extension is immediate and permanent."
<Lord_Bowser>
edo worded it well
<Anton{Politoed}>
if anyone feels that needs to be tweaked, now's the time
<dia>
i think that works
<dia>
this would also like
<dia>
exclude boosters
<dia>
i think
<dia>
temporary pay2win powerups
<dia>
so just permanent things
<dia>
im good with this
<GBAToad>
same
<turb>
i would say purchased/downloaded
<turb>
to cover free dlc like mercedes benz
<turb>
but other than that
<turb>
its good
<dia>
thats good
<Gamefreak75>
it excludes stuff like w/e you buy with super mario run
<Lord_Bowser>
hmm
<Gamefreak75>
and yeah per turb
<Lord_Bowser>
actually part of me feels like it's kinda throwing smr up into the air
<Lord_Bowser>
it might just be my misunderstanding it though
<Anton{Politoed}>
what do you mean
<dia>
i dont think temporary boosters should fall into the dlc category
<Lakituthequick>
imo SMR is a paid game with a demo before you buy
<dia>
if thats what you mean
<dia>
demos shouldnt count as dlc
<Lord_Bowser>
because technically smr fits into edo's definition
<shoutmon>
ok but
<GBAToad>
to me, microtransactions are different from dlc
<shoutmon>
the free part of smr is not "the core game"
<turb>
i was under the impression super mari orun was a demo
<shoutmon>
so
<turb>
yeah
<dia>
per gba
<turb>
so it doesnt fall under the definition
<DragonFreak>
unless smr had like
<Anton{Politoed}>
right now we're just deciding if this is the definition to go with
<Anton{Politoed}>
+ turb's addition
<DragonFreak>
another 5 worlds or something you could pay for
<turb>
i agree with the definition/addition fwiw
<Anton{Politoed}>
if no one has any other complaints we can just accept it
<dia>
im good
<Anton{Politoed}>
and then filter all nominees + prospective new ones
<dia>
we can debate specific exceptions later
<Anton{Politoed}>
likely later in the same topic on the forum
<GBAToad>
tempted to argue for "this excludes microtransactions" to the end but i feel the definition is inclusive enough
<Lord_Bowser>
alright
<Lakituthequick>
👍🏻
<Lord_Bowser>
i'll drop it then
<Meta_Knight>
seems okay
<dia>
yeah, i feel like microtansactions are included in the definition
<dia>
as is
<Lord_Bowser>
nothing else really comes to mind so i'm good for now
<Anton{Politoed}>
gr8 so:
<dia>
er excluded
<Anton{Politoed}>
"An optional extension package that introduces new content to the core game. It is purchased/downloaded once, separately or in a bundle, and does not come with the core game by default. After purchase, access to the extension is immediate and permanent."
vote solidly fell on "Remove all current SSB elements"
<Anton{Politoed}>
with brock's case-by-case vote also tl;dr being a vote for that too just with a clarification I merged into it
<Anton{Politoed}>
so that's what we'll do
<Anton{Politoed}>
what this means is removing M19 Favorite Super Smash Bros. Character
<Anton{Politoed}>
HAL Laboratory's inclusion in M10 Favorite Partner Developer
<Anton{Politoed}>
Master Core/Fortress's inclusion in M15 Hardest Boss
<Anton{Politoed}>
and Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS/Wii U's inclusion in M30 Favorite Modern Game (GCN/GBA and newer)
<Anton{Politoed}>
the latter 3 i'll do really quick right now
<shoutmon>
ok so i read the iwata asks thing
<GBAToad>
we're repealing m19 but are we also replacing it with the stage award
<shoutmon>
apparently retro actually created 3/4ths of the courses in mk7
<shoutmon>
so thats a pretty substantial contribution and not what i was thinking at all
<Anton{Politoed}>
we haven't decided which award to replace it with yet
<Anton{Politoed}>
there's 3 current options and I want them to be explored
<turb>
oh god
<Anton{Politoed}>
ok i made those changes
<dia>
ok
<turb>
uh well we can debate the partner developer thing again later i guess
<turb>
if mk7 scares anyone
<turb>
not now though
<Anton{Politoed}>
we can get back to it before i do the next thing
<Anton{Politoed}>
since we never actually voted
<Anton{Politoed}>
Retro Studios (Donkey Kong Country Returns, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, Mario Kart 7)
<Lord_Bowser>
now i'm torn
<Anton{Politoed}>
that's too long
<Anton{Politoed}>
mostly because the dk names are too long
<Meta_Knight>
cant we just say something like
<Meta_Knight>
Donkey Kong Country Reboot
<GBAToad>
nah
<Lord_Bowser>
idk that seems a bit vague
<Superchao>
since they actually contributed heavily to mk7, i'm fine with dropping one DK for MK&
<Superchao>
*MK7
<turb>
Donkey Kong Country Returns/Tropical Freeze?
<turb>
is that still too long
<DragonFreak>
if so drop dkcr since it's older
<GBAToad>
i'm in favour for shortening the second Donkey Kong Country to DKC:
<turb>
i mean obviously they arent the same game but
<Lakituthequick>
beats the 'full names' rule
<GBAToad>
ah
<dia>
cam we ise abbrevoatopms
<turb>
they were by the same dev
<DragonFreak>
(and that tf is so amazing)
<Anton{Politoed}>
if it means anything
<Anton{Politoed}>
1) Donkey Kong Country Returns/Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D — 483 — 20.32% 2) Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze — 480 — 20.19%
<dia>
can we use abbrivations
<Anton{Politoed}>
they were basically even
<Anton{Politoed}>
also we have a precedent to not using abbreviations
<meowth>
Hi!
<Lord_Bowser>
Hi, Smasher!
<Anton{Politoed}>
this is a standard we debated for a lot more time than we really should've last year
<DragonFreak>
joi
<DragonFreak>
hoi
<Anton{Politoed}>
so I'm inclined to not mess with it ever again
<GBAToad>
tell retro to make a new game with a shorter title and credit them for that
<Lord_Bowser>
anyway
<Lord_Bowser>
maybe it should be decided on which one sold more
<meowth>
btw wasnt ssb64 on m29
<Superchao>
i think we killed it last year
<Lord_Bowser>
even though i feel like dkcr sold exponentially more just cause literally no one bought a wii u
<turb>
returns probably sold more by virtue of being on the wii u
<turb>
on the WII god damn it
<turb>
not the wii u
<Anton{Politoed}>
oh, I missed it
<Anton{Politoed}>
ssb is retroactively nuked too
<GBAToad>
this is anecdotal as hell but i didn't know retro had anything to do with mk7 until today so i feel they're more well known for donkey kong
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<meowth>
i dont we touched that award last year at all perch
<shoutmon>
well
<meowth>
i didnt know either
<meowth>
but
<turb>
yeah gba has a bit of a point i guess
<shoutmon>
thats a point in favor of mk7 then
<turb>
but the award would teach people
<meowth>
_____
<shoutmon>
since the whole idea of the game titlesw is to explain to people what developers worked on what
<DragonFreak>
gfcgc fx
<DragonFreak>
woops sorry
<GBAToad>
if we're going by recent and greatest game then mk7 and tropical freeze would be my picks
<Lord_Bowser>
hmm
<DragonFreak>
per gbatoad
<Lakituthequick>
mk7 has great credits music, you shouldn't have missed retro
<Meta_Knight>
per gba
<turb>
per gba
<Lakituthequick>
(but i get it)
<Lord_Bowser>
yeah i'd be satisfied with that
<Lord_Bowser>
per gba
<Anton{Politoed}>
ok so let's do a vote
<Superchao>
y
<meowth>
tf and mk7
<Anton{Politoed}>
let me set the vote up please
<Anton{Politoed}>
Retro Studios (Donkey Kong Country Returns, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, Mario Kart 7)
<dia>
thats ok
<Gamefreak75_>
could we do something like dkc:returns/tropical freeze
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<Anton{Politoed}>
dkcr is 1, dkcr:tf is 2, mk7 is 3
<Gamefreak75>
or nah
<Gamefreak75>
idk if it went through
<meowth>
it did
<Gamefreak75>
ok
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Exclude (1/2/3/abstain)
<Superchao>
1
<DragonFreak>
1
<Lord_Bowser>
1
<meowth>
1
<Meta_Knight>
1
<GBAToad>
1
<dia>
uh
<Lakituthequick>
1
<shoutmon>
1
<dia>
abstain i guess
<meowth>
8-0-0-0
<turb>
1
<Gamefreak75>
1 i guess if he had to exclude something
<Gamefreak75>
we
<meowth>
10-0-0-1
<meowth>
dckr is a great game though, rip
<Gamefreak75>
also its dkc:tf
<Gamefreak75>
no returns in the title for that game
<Anton{Politoed}>
gr8 so that's what we're doing
<Anton{Politoed}>
Retro Studios (Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, Mario Kart 7)
<Anton{Politoed}>
and back to M19
<Anton{Politoed}>
there are 3 current replacement ideas
<Lord_Bowser>
wait wait
<Anton{Politoed}>
we will not be deciding on which one it is today, all I'm doing is briefly introducing them and then will be creating a topic to develop each idea
<Lord_Bowser>
this is a small detail but should mk7 and dkctf be in order of release
<Lord_Bowser>
cause mk7 came first
<Anton{Politoed}>
sure
<Anton{Politoed}>
the ideas are:
<Anton{Politoed}>
some kind of Favorite Actor award, which would include voice actors and the live-action show actors
<Anton{Politoed}>
a Favorite Mario SSB Stage
<Anton{Politoed}>
and a Most Wanted SSB Mario Newcomer award
<Anton{Politoed}>
names pending on all, but those get the points across
<Superchao>
hmmm
<DragonFreak>
i like the first one the best
<Lord_Bowser>
i feel like the latter is too similar to the current favorite character awards
<Anton{Politoed}>
each has their pros and cons that I mulled over by yelling about them at 22 and edo over the last few days talking to myself
<Lord_Bowser>
while the former is new and actually pretty interesting
<GBAToad>
most wanted would be a popularity contest really
<Lakituthequick>
except all nominees are different
<Gamefreak75>
if were removing ssb it seems weird to add ssb
<Superchao>
yeah, LB's how i fel
<Superchao>
*feel
<Gamefreak75>
so the first one
<turb>
per gamefreak
<GBAToad>
per gf
<turb>
i like the first one the most
<Lord_Bowser>
i would go for the first
<GBAToad>
per turb
<dia>
i dont know anything about voice actors
<Superchao>
my personal favorite is mario ssb sage
<Superchao>
*stage
<Lakituthequick>
the first is indeed more unique
<meowth>
im not really that into the first one
<dia>
i like mario ssb stage
<turb>
the only concern i have is longevity, but, that's something that we can think about and test run it this year anyway
<Superchao>
i feel it's an interesting lineup that's actually relevant to our awards
<Meta_Knight>
aside from charles martinet i also know nothihng about voice actors
<turb>
since it's conceptually a good idea
<turb>
i just dont know if charles martinet wont shit stomp it
<Superchao>
VA i'd be willing to give a try if that one falls through
<turb>
along with maybe lou albano
<GBAToad>
charles will probably sweep because he's the one who everyone knows but who cares
<Lord_Bowser>
we could do like what we did for partner devs for the va's
<dia>
longevitiy of which one
<Anton{Politoed}>
yeah, my concern is martinet dominating
<GBAToad>
~ diversity ~
<DragonFreak>
actually yeah that is a concern
<Anton{Politoed}>
but out of the 3 options it's the most relevant and also an unexplored award
<dia>
martinet?
<meowth>
seems less interesting and some i dont think most people would care about it other than charles
<dia>
oh
<GBAToad>
voice of everything you love
<dia>
nevermind
<dia>
ignore my questions
<meowth>
the only one i really like is the second choice
<Anton{Politoed}>
the other two feel like they're really niche attempts to retain ssb
<Lakituthequick>
could try it a year and drop it next year if it's terrible
<dia>
i mean, i like the idea of ssb mario stage
<Lord_Bowser>
i wouldn't mind giving favorite va a test run
<dia>
voice actor is good too
<DragonFreak>
we could also brainstorm more ideas than these three
<turb>
for what it's worth i think that the other two awards are fine ideas but
<Gamefreak75>
i mean daisy would dominate the third award too
<dia>
its not a big deal though
<turb>
like
<Anton{Politoed}>
ssb mario stage is a good idea that's objectively better than fave ssb character
<Superchao>
i feel like it'd basically turn into Martinet vs. Albino, but that's my only concern
<turb>
they just feel like attempts to shoehorn ssb back in there
<GBAToad>
the whole warioware va team should be a single option tbh tbh tbh
<turb>
yeah
<meowth>
id prefer the first to the third but blehhhhhhhhhh
<turb>
they're good ideas and objectively better than what we're replacing
<Superchao>
ssb character would be just waluigi vs. daisy
<Anton{Politoed}>
but I feel it's too self-restrictive to really be an award we need
<turb>
^
<GBAToad>
no superchao ssb character would be waluigi
<dia>
yeah, i dont really think we need it
<GBAToad>
and k rool in the write ins
<dia>
but i think we should hang on to the idea
<dia>
like as
<dia>
if we need an extra award
<dia>
toss it in
<DragonFreak>
why write ins when they can just be an option
<Anton{Politoed}>
but yeah we can continue debate on these and generate nominees once I shit out a forum thread for these
<Anton{Politoed}>
now that they're formally proposed
<dia>
how many mario stages are there in ssb
<meowth>
plenty
<Meta_Knight>
counting sub series and all games easily more than 15
<Gamefreak75>
too many
<Anton{Politoed}>
all 3 of those options could easily fill the nominees up
<Superchao>
brock's got a good point
<GBAToad>
19 stages
<Superchao>
we may find that we cut another mario award later
<dia>
i think the uh, voice actor thing should be priority
<Superchao>
and we could think about using a second from these
<GBAToad>
according to smashwiki
<turb>
yeah
<dia>
and the other two are good if we need to fill spaces
<turb>
so i want to keep all three on the table but prioritize voice actor
<dia>
same
<Anton{Politoed}>
and yeah I agree with brock
<GBAToad>
per turb
<Lord_Bowser>
per turb
<Lord_Bowser>
and brock
<Anton{Politoed}>
that was my silent implication over not deciding right now on what to do
<Anton{Politoed}>
and instead develop all 3
<dia>
sweet
<Anton{Politoed}>
with that, those cover our past topics
<Lord_Bowser>
woo
<Anton{Politoed}>
which I'll finalize on the list after the meeting closes, or continue on the forum
<GBAToad>
to the future
<Anton{Politoed}>
meaning we can resume Mario Awards
<Anton{Politoed}>
we left off on M19
<Anton{Politoed}>
which we nuked
<Anton{Politoed}>
so next up is:
<Anton{Politoed}>
M20 Favorite Sports Game (Mario Tennis (Nintendo 64), Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour, Mario Power Tennis, Mario Superstar Baseball, Mario Strikers Charged, Mario Hoops 3-on-3, Mario Sports Mix, Super Mario Strikers, Mario Super Sluggers, Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games, Mario Tennis Open, Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games,
<Anton{Politoed}>
Mario Golf: World Tour, Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash)
<Lord_Bowser>
add in sports superstars
<meowth>
sports superstars
<Anton{Politoed}>
13) Mario Superstar Baseball — 79 — 3.37% 14) Mario Tennis Open — 65 — 2.77% 15) O. Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games — 13 — 0.55% 16) O. Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games — 6 — 0.26%
<Lakituthequick>
every time someone mentions 'nuking' a thing i imagine a spectacle with explosions and stuff
<Anton{Politoed}>
the award has 14 nominees so we can easily shoehorn it in
<turb>
maybe add rio and sports superstars and move on
<turb>
definitely sports superstars
<GBAToad>
ltq the word that comes to mind is 'ded'
<meowth>
idk about rio
<meowth>
probably not enough votes
<Gamefreak75>
the fact ultra smash isnt in last palce is shameful
<turb>
i mean i don't really care as much if that gets on
<Gamefreak75>
place
<turb>
it's just that it was a sports game that came out semi recently
<GBAToad>
have we ever considered merging the whole of the olympic series or have i just done a bad
<Anton{Politoed}>
https://www.mariowiki.com/Mario_Sports_Superstars
<Anton{Politoed}>
that one right
<Lord_Bowser>
yes
<meowth>
yeah
<turb>
these fucking olympic games confuse me every year
<Lakituthequick>
12) Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash — 83 — 3.54%
<turb>
and yeah
<Lakituthequick>
(for ref)
<GBAToad>
lol
<meowth>
ultra smash isnt even the lowest placing tennis game l o l
<Lord_Bowser>
i thought everyone liked mto
<Lord_Bowser>
was i wrong lol
<Anton{Politoed}>
and yeah it was considered, GBAToad, but each game places wildly differently so it's not exactly fair to any individual game
<meowth>
i didnt, myself
<meowth>
of the games on the award ive played its probably my least favorite
<meowth>
yeah per anton @m&s
<Lord_Bowser>
oh rip
<Anton{Politoed}>
I should include these for context to people who may not already have them open
<GBAToad>
nintendo please end the series in tokyo you can't get better than that
<Lord_Bowser>
also yeah i don't like the idea of combining all m&s games
thx anton i have the list open but not the results
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Add "Mario Sports Superstars" to M20? (y/n/a)
<Anton{Politoed}>
y
<GBAToad>
y
<Meta_Knight>
y
<Gamefreak75>
y
<turb>
y
<Lakituthequick>
y
<Lord_Bowser>
y
<shoutmon>
y
<dia>
y
<Lord_Bowser>
9-0-0
<Anton{Politoed}>
gr8
<Anton{Politoed}>
any other meddling with M20?
<Lakituthequick>
ooh summertime's starting in two minutes
<Lord_Bowser>
not really
<meowth>
y
<turb>
im not particularly attached to the idea of adding rio
<turb>
and no one else is desperate for it
<meowth>
10-0-0
<turb>
so im fine with moving on myself
<Lord_Bowser>
nothing desperately needs adding or removing
<meowth>
move on
<Anton{Politoed}>
I don't see rio doing anything but fall in numbers so yeah i'm content
<Superchao>
i got nothing
<Anton{Politoed}>
next up is:
<Anton{Politoed}>
M21 Favorite Puzzle Game (Dr. Mario (series), Tetris Attack, Yoshi’s Cookie, Wario’s Woods, Mario’s Picross, Yoshi, Donkey Kong (Game Boy)/Mario vs. Donkey Kong (GBA), Mario vs. Donkey Kong (2 and onwards), DK: King of Swing/DK: Jungle Climber, Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker, Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Bros. Edition)
<GBAToad>
next year the award should drop them all except the first winter and summer and tokyo imo but that's ~ next year ~
<Anton{Politoed}>
10) Mario’s Picross — 53 — 2.27% 11) DK: King of Swing/DK: Jungle Climber — 43 — 1.84% 12) O. Tetris DS — 3 — 0.13%
<Gamefreak75>
i think leave as is?
<meowth>
i think so
<turb>
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
<Gamefreak75>
i dont remember any recent mario puzzle games
<turb>
did they release anything recently
<Lord_Bowser>
didn't mvsdk get like 50 spinoffs last year
<meowth>
i dont remember a major puzzle game recent?
<meowth>
50
<Gamefreak75>
ohtheres that amiibo mvdk game
<turb>
i think puzzle and dragons was the only thing unless you count those mvsdk shits
"This is also the first three-dimensional game in the series, but its gameplay is similar to the past games'. "
<Anton{Politoed}>
is the wiki description of it
<Superchao>
huh, yeah
<dia>
o
<Anton{Politoed}>
I'm inclined to accept that unless anyone actually played it and can say "no it was totally different"
<GBAToad>
its also already covered in the merge we have in place for Mario vs. Donkey Kong (2 and onwards)
<Lord_Bowser>
but it's mario /and/ donkey kong /s
<turb>
it looks like the same lemmings sort of gameplay
<turb>
its just that it has 3d graphics on the top screen
<turb>
judging from like 2 screenshots
<GBAToad>
nintendo had a stroke when writing the title
<GBAToad>
simple geometry
<GBAToad>
also tipping stars switches back to vs anyway
<Anton{Politoed}>
gr8 so i think we're good on this one
<meowth>
whee
<Lord_Bowser>
woo
<GBAToad>
wii
<Anton{Politoed}>
next up is:
<Anton{Politoed}>
M22 Favorite Mario Maker Design Element (Sound/Visual effects, Winged enemies, Giant enemies, Koopa Clown Car, Pink Coins, Objects in Bill Blasters, Music Blocks, Spiny/Buzzy Beetle shell helmets, Level theme changes, Game theme changes, Stackable enemies, Mystery Mushrooms)
<GBAToad>
oh shit this one
<Anton{Politoed}>
11) Music Blocks — 84 — 3.60% 12) Winged enemies — 64 — 2.74% 13) O. Keys — 9 — 0.39% 14) O. Bowser — 4 — 0.17%
<DragonFreak>
has anything been added since then?
<GBAToad>
nope
<Lakituthequick>
did the 3ds version introduce things?
<Lord_Bowser>
lol
<Lakituthequick>
or an update yeah
<Lord_Bowser>
no iirc
<GBAToad>
removed would be better, as in no mystery mushrooms in the 3ds version
<DragonFreak>
3ds smm is the worst thing
<Lord_Bowser>
there haven't been any big updates since key coins iirc
<Superchao>
#buried
<Superchao>
anyhow, in that case - well
<Gamefreak75>
3ds removed stuff if anything lol
<Lakituthequick>
tempted to click that channel name
<Superchao>
would key coins be significant enough?
<Superchao>
or is that what pink coins are?
<GBAToad>
we could've dropped this award if smm 3ds didn't come out
<Lord_Bowser>
no those are the same perch
<GBAToad>
damn
<Superchao>
oh ok
<Superchao>
well i'd say leave it for now
<DragonFreak>
ltq do it
<Gamefreak75>
i like the bowser write in
<Anton{Politoed}>
yeah I feel it's still relevant enough to keep around for at least another year
<Superchao>
and next year if there's nothing new and we get the same results
<Superchao>
we can scrap and replace then
<Lord_Bowser>
me too gf
<Anton{Politoed}>
suddenly Super Mario Maker Switch
<DragonFreak>
i was just thinking that also
<DragonFreak>
hype
<Lord_Bowser>
lol
<GBAToad>
add individual mystery costume characters for extreme hell
<DragonFreak>
WITH SLOPES
<GBAToad>
becomes the new ssb character award
<GBAToad>
profit
<Gamefreak75>
tingle costume better win
<turb>
im fine with leaving this award as is
<turb>
its still relevant enough
<Gamefreak75>
and yeah leave as is
<turb>
and im sure theyll port smm to switch
<Lord_Bowser>
leave as is
<turb>
and we can add slopes for the meme factor
<Superchao>
s l o p e s
<GBAToad>
i was gonna say that we should remove mystery mushrooms actually since smm 3ds doesn't have them but idk i guess we could keep them and watch them sweep the award again probably
<turb>
i think it's still fine
<turb>
they're there on the wii u version
<Lord_Bowser>
did anyone actually buy smm 3ds
<Gamefreak75>
no one likes smm3ds
<DragonFreak>
i was surprised that the mystery mushrooms did that good tbh
<turb>
i feel like more people appreciated that game even if it was less accessible because there are only 5 wii u owners in america
<DragonFreak>
lb i was going to before i learned they removed everything good at smm
<turb>
so i would say keep them on since they're still a good and valid feature
<dia>
i never owned a wii
<Anton{Politoed}>
next up is:
<GBAToad>
when we get to biggest missed opportunity im putting in full support for "no online course sharing in smm3ds" as an option
<GBAToad>
but anyway
<Anton{Politoed}>
M23 Favorite DK Character (Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong, Lanky Kong, Tiny Kong, Chunky Kong, Funky Kong, Dixie Kong, Cranky Kong, King K. Rool, Rambi the Rhino, Enguarde the Swordfish, Squawks the Parrot)
<DragonFreak>
probably skip
<Superchao>
pink donkey kong jr
<GBAToad>
^
<Lord_Bowser>
per perch
<GBAToad>
^^^^^^^
<turb>
swanky kong
<Lord_Bowser>
very strongly per perch
<dia>
rose gold donkkey kong jr
<GBAToad>
chrom
<DragonFreak>
no one outside the community is going to vote for it tho
<Lord_Bowser>
no wait guys
<Anton{Politoed}>
pink dk jr did get some write-ins
<Anton{Politoed}>
we just scrapped them because we're fascist dictators
<Lord_Bowser>
/blue/ pink donkey kong jr
<GBAToad>
blue pink
<Superchao>
blue pink /swanky/ kong jr
<meowth>
ski[
<meowth>
skip
<Lakituthequick>
how many write ints
<dia>
i like joke votes, but, i dont really care
<DragonFreak>
is blue pink donkey kong jr pangender
<GBAToad>
gold bluster kong
<dia>
are there any we'd remove
<DragonFreak>
i love bluster
<dia>
or is the award good
<Anton{Politoed}>
it was like 3 or something
<DragonFreak>
but still i think skip
<turb>
no but skip i guess
<meowth>
no pink dk jr no one but us gives a shit about it lol
<turb>
as much as i want to dictatorially add swanky kong
<Lord_Bowser>
anyway in all seriousness
<Anton{Politoed}>
nothing places absurdly low
<Lord_Bowser>
i'm good for skippinh
<Anton{Politoed}>
d*
<GBAToad>
s k i p
<dia>
i'll just write in poochy
<Lakituthequick>
11) Chunky Kong — 47 — 1.92%
<Lakituthequick>
12) Squawks the Parrot — 42 — 1.71%
<Lakituthequick>
13) O. Candy Kong — 8 — 0.33%
<Lakituthequick>
13) O. Donkey Kong Jr. — 8 — 0.33%
<Lord_Bowser>
skipping*
<dia>
ok
<dia>
then im fine
<Anton{Politoed}>
next up is:
<Superchao>
yeah in all seriousness, skip
<Anton{Politoed}>
M24 Favorite Wario Character (Mona, Jimmy T., 9-Volt & 18-Volt, Ashley & Red, Dribble & Spitz, Orbulon, Dr. Crygor, Kat & Ana, Young Cricket & Master Mantis, Captain Syrup, Rudy the Clown, Shake King, Princess Shokora, Wario)
<DragonFreak>
skip too
<GBAToad>
boi
<Lord_Bowser>
delete ashley /s
<Anton{Politoed}>
10) Orbulon — 40 — 1.72% 11) Shake King — 26 — 1.12% 12) Dr. Crygor — 23 — 0.99% 13) Rudy the Clown — 14 — 0.60% 14) Young Cricket & Master Mantis — 13 — 0.56% 15) O. Count Cannoli — 5 — 0.21% 16) O. Penny — 4 — 0.17% 16) O. Tobawani — 4 — 0.17%
DragonFreakdestroys lb
<GBAToad>
rip warioware
<Anton{Politoed}>
some options did place rather low
<GBAToad>
i'd actually be up for trimming some of this as well
<DragonFreak>
wow 4 tobawani votes
<Superchao>
[s]add cannoli[/s]
<DragonFreak>
that should appease 22
<Superchao>
but yeah i'd be okay with trimming it down to like
<shoutmon>
literally all of those were me :|
<Superchao>
taking off rudy and cricket/mantis at least
<Gamefreak75>
add count cannoli
<DragonFreak>
good ob 22
<GBAToad>
per chao
<Lord_Bowser>
per perch as well
<DragonFreak>
but then we will have less than 15
<turb>
im fine with that but like
<meowth>
id be ok with killing the bottom two
<turb>
im also not desperate to trim this award
<GBAToad>
add fronks /s
<turb>
because it's already under the soft limit
<Anton{Politoed}>
so let's do some quick votes
<meowth>
we dont NEED to trim it but im iffy on keeping things with less than 20 votes
<DragonFreak>
there's no reason to trim at all yeah'
<GBAToad>
but really am i '/s'
<Gamefreak75>
i mean it doesnt matter who we add
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Remove "Young Cricket & Master Mantis" from M24? (y/n/a)
<Gamefreak75>
ashley will take a shit on everyone anyways
<GBAToad>
as is the way of life
<dia>
n
<Lord_Bowser>
y
<Lakituthequick>
y
<Gamefreak75>
n
<DragonFreak>
n
<GBAToad>
y
<Superchao>
y
<turb>
a
<shoutmon>
a
<dia>
i think 10 votes or more is a good cutoff
<Meta_Knight>
a
<Lord_Bowser>
3-3-3
<GBAToad>
4-3-3
<Lord_Bowser>
oh derp
<Anton{Politoed}>
a
<shoutmon>
some awards are more popular than others so if theres going to be a cutoff it needs to be percentage based
<DragonFreak>
well no one said anything with
<Lord_Bowser>
per 22
<DragonFreak>
[20:10] Lakituthequick 13) O. Candy Kong — 8 — 0.33%
<DragonFreak>
[20:10] Lakituthequick 13) O. Donkey Kong Jr. — 8 — 0.33%
<dia>
well, im not logical
<Anton{Politoed}>
so, too close to call, so no decision
<dia>
other people can base their votes on other things
<dia>
i just dont care about this vote
<Anton{Politoed}>
we're still at 14 so just for completion of the topic
<Meta_Knight>
i dont know who this is
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Add "Count Cannoli" to M24? (y/n/a)
<turb>
a
<GBAToad>
a
<shoutmon>
a
<dia>
a
<Gamefreak75>
well that was more of a joke
<Lord_Bowser>
a
<Gamefreak75>
i dont think anyone cares about master of disguise
<Gamefreak75>
besides me
<Anton{Politoed}>
a
<Lakituthequick>
a
<Lord_Bowser>
0-0-7
<Anton{Politoed}>
the Abstains have it
<Anton{Politoed}>
awards are canceled
<Lord_Bowser>
rip
<turb>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMWmi9ovX7M
<DragonFreak>
well it was good while it lasted
<dia>
rekt
<DragonFreak>
turb why is that one of the best videos ever
<turb>
idk
<turb>
im going to drive this joke into the ground though
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<Superchao>
i support cannoli
<Anton{Politoed}>
I remember when that was new
<Superchao>
one yes vote to no nos
<Superchao>
motion passes
<Anton{Politoed}>
democracy ftw
<DragonFreak>
we should add tobawani
<Anton{Politoed}>
next up is:
<Anton{Politoed}>
M25 Favorite 2D Level (Touch Fuzzy, Get Dizzy (YI), World 1-1 (SMB), Poochy Ain't Stupid (YI), Donut Plains 1 (SMW), Forest of Illusion 3 (SMW), Crescent Moon Village (WL4), World 1-2 (SMB), World 2-Pyramid (SMB3), Donut Secret House (SMW), Painted Swampland (NSMBU), Arabian Nights (WL4), Bramble Scramble (DKC2), Front Door (SMW), Go! Go! Morphing! (YI),
<Anton{Politoed}>
World 8-7 (NSMBW))
<meowth>
can i retroactively vote on those lol
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<meowth>
or is it too late
<Anton{Politoed}>
this was a hell of an award to build
<meowth>
bless
<GBAToad>
im getting anxiety just looking at it tbh
<turb>
yeah
<DragonFreak>
well unless we want like a rebuilding of this, just skip
<turb>
let's delete it
<DragonFreak>
since no new TURB NO
<Anton{Politoed}>
13) Go! Go! Morphing! (YI) — 45 — 2.05% 14) World 2-Pyramid (SMB3) — 44 — 2.01% 15) Crescent Moon Village (WL4) — 42 — 1.92% 16) O. Rickety Race (DKC2) — 4 — 0.18% 16) O. World 4-1 (SMB3) — 4 — 0.18%
<DragonFreak>
IT'S MY FAVORITE AWARD
<turb>
:^)
<meowth>
lets delete turb
<Anton{Politoed}>
nothing placed wildly low or write-ins high
<meowth>
skip
<turb>
i would just say skip it
<Anton{Politoed}>
I feel it's good as-is
<dia>
delete
<Lord_Bowser>
skip
<turb>
i dont think there is anything new to add
<GBAToad>
ski
<GBAToad>
*skis*
<Superchao>
delete anton
<Lord_Bowser>
also y on deleting turb
<Superchao>
anarchy
<Anton{Politoed}>
:(
<Gamefreak75>
wow why is crescent moon village last
<Gamefreak75>
awful
<DragonFreak>
ikr gamefreak
<DragonFreak>
i even voted for it 3 times
<Lord_Bowser>
and y on deleting /perch/ instead of anton /s
<Anton{Politoed}>
next up is:
<GBAToad>
i vote in favour of adding all user designed smm courses to this award
<Gamefreak75>
guys lets bring back Favorite Galaxy
<Anton{Politoed}>
M26 Favorite 3D Level (Toy Time Galaxy, Good Egg Galaxy, Gusty Garden Galaxy, Whomp's Fortress/Throwback Galaxy, Grandmaster Galaxy, Cosmic Cove Galaxy, Bob-omb Battlefield, Tick Tock Clock, Pinna Park, Sirena Beach, Delfino Plaza/Airstrip, Mount Must Dash, The Great Tower of Bowser Land, Champion's Road, World 2-3 (SM3DL), World 5-2 (SM3DL),
<Anton{Politoed}>
Special 7-3 (SM3DL))
<Anton{Politoed}>
13) Pinna Park — 96 — 3.92% 15) World 2-3 (SM3DL) — 24 — 0.98% 16) Special 7-3 (SM3DL) — 22 — 0.90% 17) World 5-2 (SM3DL) — 16 — 0.65% 18) O. Slimy Spring Galaxy — 9 — 0.37% 19) O. Buoy Base Galaxy — 8 — 0.33% 20) O. Bowser's Galaxy Reactor — 5 — 0.20%
<turb>
a part of me wants to nuke 5-2 sm3dl and replace it with slimy spring
<turb>
i mean really
<Lord_Bowser>
i want to add slimy spring yeah
<Anton{Politoed}>
literally all 3 sm3dl levels placed consecutively last
<GBAToad>
i want buoy base
<GBAToad>
but anyway
<turb>
who the hell here even knows what 5-2 sm3dl IS
<Gamefreak75>
lol all the sm3dl are at the bottom
<meowth>
3d land the best game of all time
<Lakituthequick>
well
<Lord_Bowser>
oh wait
<Lakituthequick>
they don't exactly have good names
<Lord_Bowser>
5-2 was the subtle zelda reference level
<turb>
theres no other way to name them
<GBAToad>
2-3 was the pixel art level
<dia>
idk
<Anton{Politoed}>
sm3dl levels were included as this award was fresh and new, just for the sake of providing a good sample
<dia>
i'd say delete
<Anton{Politoed}>
I don't really want to nuke all 3
<Lakituthequick>
so subtle referece was enough to add it
<Anton{Politoed}>
just so we can shovel more galaxy ones in
<Gamefreak75>
nuke 503
<Gamefreak75>
5-2
<Lord_Bowser>
i literally don't remember S7-3
<dia>
i dont want to add galaxy
<DragonFreak>
shovel more smw levels in
<Superchao>
i'd be okay with just nuking all three and leaving them nuked
<Superchao>
for how absolutely poorly they did
<Lakituthequick>
^
<Superchao>
like
<Superchao>
this was past the soft cap anyway
<GBAToad>
we're nuking smash bros so nuke 5-3 for its reference being non mario related
<turb>
if we were going to nuke all 3 i would only really want to add slimy spring
<dia>
do we need to replace them with anything?
<turb>
not any of the others
<Superchao>
so just trim it down to 14 and leave it at 14, imo
<turb>
i'm also fine with 14
<GBAToad>
there was supposed to be an /s at the end of that last message
<dia>
im fine with that
<DragonFreak>
[20:22] DragonFreak shovel more smw levels in
<dia>
no reason to add stuff if it doesnt fit
<DragonFreak>
for some reason i thought we were still in 2d
<DragonFreak>
my bad
<dia>
or keep things for history sake
<Lord_Bowser>
i like turb's idea
<dia>
per turb
<Anton{Politoed}>
I'm going to abuse my position as director by splitting the vote into 3 because I'm the asshole who nominated the sm3dl levels
<Lord_Bowser>
deleting all sm3dl levels and adding slimy spring
<Lord_Bowser>
tyranny
<Anton{Politoed}>
so,
<dia>
ok
<Lakituthequick>
k
<GBAToad>
boy i can't wait for all of the galaxys to be replaced by super mario odyssey levels
<turb>
oh god
<turb>
we have to retool this award then dont we
<Lakituthequick>
oh yeah thats gonna be a thing next year
<turb>
fuck me
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Remove "World 5-2 (SM3DL)" from M26? (y/n/a)
<Anton{Politoed}>
y
<Lakituthequick>
y
<turb>
im retiring before that
<Superchao>
y
<Lord_Bowser>
y
<turb>
y
<shoutmon>
y
<Anton{Politoed}>
and yes, turb
<DragonFreak>
y
<GBAToad>
y
<Gamefreak75>
y
<meowth>
y
<GBAToad>
lightning fast y
<dia>
y
<Superchao>
do what i did, turb
<Gamefreak75>
galaxy levels are the best
<DragonFreak>
just replace any of the smg2 levels
<Superchao>
stop taking on the staff job
<meowth>
12-0-0
<Gamefreak75>
ill fite everyone
<Superchao>
all of the voting and none of the pressure
<Lakituthequick>
why retool though?
<turb>
i still feel like i have a duty to the awards committee to shit myself over making sure the awards get finished on time
<turb>
regardless of my position on it
<GBAToad>
new dong city will sweep
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Remove "Special 7-3 (SM3DL)" from M26? (y/n/a)
<turb>
maybe this is how ralph felt
<turb>
y
<Anton{Politoed}>
n
<Lord_Bowser>
y
<Superchao>
y
<Lakituthequick>
y
<dia>
n
<DragonFreak>
n
<shoutmon>
y
<GBAToad>
n
<Lord_Bowser>
5-4-0
<Lakituthequick>
lot more diversity on this one
<meowth>
a
<meowth>
5-4-1
<Lord_Bowser>
what's so special about s7-3
<GBAToad>
wait actually im switching to y
<Anton{Politoed}>
it's Special
<meowth>
6-3-1
<Lakituthequick>
it has 'special' in the name
<dia>
its special, and i think there should be at least one representation
<Superchao>
it was me, austin
<Superchao>
it was me all along, austin
<Anton{Politoed}>
also it's the gear one where magikoopas pop up and say hi
<Superchao>
see, that's the thin
<Anton{Politoed}>
it was like one of the only actual somewhat maybe challenging levels
<meowth>
i was only strongly in favor of the one below 20 votes i dont care about the others
<Superchao>
until you told me
<Superchao>
i didn't even know
<Anton{Politoed}>
well tbf I can say that about literally every level except 1-1 and the yoshi games because they actually have names
<dia>
yeah, i think the problem is with the neccessity of
<Anton{Politoed}>
so I don't think that's exactly a fair critique
<dia>
names not existing for these levels
<turb>
i dunno
<dia>
rather than the levels themselves
<turb>
with that in mind i dont really mind it as much
<Superchao>
yeah it was more a omment on 3d land itself
<Superchao>
rather than a justification for removal
<turb>
ill switch from y to a
<GBAToad>
god i hope odyssey has level names
<turb>
new dong city
<meowth>
a small part of me wants to keep one 3d land item on the list just to keep representation but
<Anton{Politoed}>
last year we ran with the assumption that people would look up the levels on the wiki or already know them
<GBAToad>
world D-1
<meowth>
itd just get last place every year
<meowth>
so idk
<Anton{Politoed}>
since there's no other way we can describe them
<Anton{Politoed}>
the same went for all of the Level awards as well as the Worst Mario Party Minigame award
<Anton{Politoed}>
what's the vote at
<meowth>
5-4-1
<Superchao>
yeah, and with 2D level the levels with just numbers actually did okay
<GBAToad>
i must say though the wiki doesn't really provide a great description of special 7-3 i have resorted to watching people recording the game with a camera to understand
<Superchao>
so that's why i feel this is less just "the 3d land ones are the only ones without names"
<Superchao>
and more "people just don't like them much"
<turb>
yeah like
<turb>
idk if its different because its 2d level and they usually follow that naming format
<turb>
or what
<Anton{Politoed}>
well I never said they placed low because they were just numbers
<Anton{Politoed}>
just that it's not exactly a good critique
<Superchao>
o
<turb>
fair
<Superchao>
then i misread your intentions, sorry
<Lord_Bowser>
6:30 PM <GBAToad> i must say though the wiki doesn't really provide a great description of special 7-3 i have resorted to watching people recording the game with a camera to understand
<turb>
i dunno if maybe we should move these two to the forums or something
<turb>
because this seems pretty deadlocked rn
<Lord_Bowser>
that kinda applies to virtually all sm3dl levels
<turb>
unless we all want to shift votes or somethin g lol
<Anton{Politoed}>
I legit don't think it's worth moving to the forum
<turb>
im abstaining rn
<turb>
yeah
<Superchao>
*everyone abstains*
<turb>
i don't think it's worth it either
<turb>
it's just deadlocked right now
<meowth>
wait i messed up the vote lol
<Superchao>
ping anyone who hasnt voted?
<Superchao>
we got 12 on the first vote and 10 for this one
<Anton{Politoed}>
the vote is a non-decision and if we reached that for this level it's fair to assume we'll hit the same for World 2-3 (SM3DL)
<meowth>
i got turbs a mixed in the ns by accident
<meowth>
5-3-2
<Superchao>
smasher i trusted you
<meowth>
even im forgetting how to count
<Anton{Politoed}>
oh, that's closer to a decision then
<Lord_Bowser>
i thought turb said y at first
<dia>
a
<turb>
i did
<Superchao>
he did
<turb>
i changed to a
<Superchao>
then he changed it
<meowth>
but im actually switching to n so its the same l o l
<dia>
oh
<Superchao>
gdi turb
<dia>
did i already vote on this
<GBAToad>
i would vote for 2-3 to be kept over s7-3 if we did it as an either/or thing
<dia>
sorry, i got up to get food
<turb>
if this is a non decision maybe we should just move on
<turb>
yeah per gba
<dia>
i want to keep my vote however it was before
<Superchao>
i'd be happy to do an either/or
<Superchao>
and leave it at 15
<meowth>
you voted n brock
<dia>
ok
<Anton{Politoed}>
yeah this is taking up literally way too much time
<dia>
thanks
<Lord_Bowser>
move on then
<Anton{Politoed}>
what's the vote at right now, that's the vote we're going with
<Anton{Politoed}>
if people don't pay attention to cast their vote that's their own business
<Anton{Politoed}>
is it 5-3-2
<turb>
i think its 5-4-1 assuming smasher was A before
<turb>
ok she was
<Anton{Politoed}>
non-decision then
<meowth>
i switched from a to n yeah
<Superchao>
so much for my plan to systematically erase 3D land from history
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Add "Slimy Spring Galaxy" from M26? (y/n/a)
<Superchao>
n
<turb>
y
<Lord_Bowser>
y
<dia>
y
<GBAToad>
y
<meowth>
a
<Meta_Knight>
a
<DragonFreak>
n
<turb>
this is such a 22 vote
<meowth>
4-2-2
<Anton{Politoed}>
n
<shoutmon>
y
<meowth>
5-3-2
<turb>
sorry i was stealth pinging you to further my own agenda
<turb>
i probably shouldnt do that
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<Lakituthequick>
a
<shoutmon>
its ok i would have voted for that anyway
<Lord_Bowser>
slimy spring should win all awards
<DragonFreak>
22 doesnt respond to pings
<meowth>
5-3-3
<Lord_Bowser>
including community ones
<meowth>
a landslide vote
<shoutmon>
we cant just fail to recognise the only good part of smg2
<Anton{Politoed}>
it's a good enough vote
<Anton{Politoed}>
it's added
<DragonFreak>
i didnt like the galaxy lol
<Lord_Bowser>
woo
<Anton{Politoed}>
we technically have room to shove in one more
Lord_Bowser tackles doof
<Anton{Politoed}>
I really don't want to
<meowth>
i dont remember slimy spring at all
<meowth>
i don't want to
<Anton{Politoed}>
does anyone have a boner for buoy base
<Lord_Bowser>
not really the level itself
<GBAToad>
me
<Lord_Bowser>
just the music
<Superchao>
no
<dia>
i'll vote y if we propose it, but i dont care
<GBAToad>
but dont add it
<Superchao>
i don't feel we /have/ to add one more
<meowth>
i dont care either way
<Anton{Politoed}>
ambivalence gets the vote
<Anton{Politoed}>
moving on
<meowth>
hooray for neutrality
<Anton{Politoed}>
M27 Favorite Boss Battle (Tubba Blubba (Paper Mario), Phantamanta (Super Mario Sunshine), Brobot (Super Paper Mario), Rawk Hawk (PM:TTYD), Bowser in the Sky (Super Mario 64), Kaptain K. Rool 1 & 2 (DKC2), Super Dimentio (Super Paper Mario), Elder Princess Shroob (M&L: PiT), Megaleg (Super Mario Galaxy), General Guy (Paper Mario), Kingfin (Super Mario Galaxy),
honestly nothing strikes me as a needed addition but
<meowth>
unless anyone is seriously interested in swapping tiki tong and bouldergeist i'm good with this as is
<turb>
if anything i would swap tiki tong for something from color splash
<meowth>
or that
<turb>
but i know nothing about that game
<GBAToad>
3 bowsers stacked on top of each other (SMM)
<Superchao>
did anyone play color splash
<DragonFreak>
where's nyrie
<shoutmon>
cs had the same relatively eaasy puzzle bosses as ss
<meowth>
but i didnt play color splash
<Gamefreak75>
with wings
<shoutmon>
i doubt any of them are worth adding
<Lord_Bowser>
we need shoey or nyrie for this
<meowth>
nyrie come home
<meowth>
shoey come home
<Anton{Politoed}>
we'll review every award again later
<Anton{Politoed}>
they can read logs and contribute if they need to
<meowth>
yeah lets just move on for now
<GBAToad>
https://www.mariowiki.com/Black_Bowser
<Lord_Bowser>
racist
<Anton{Politoed}>
M28 Favorite Game Setting (Mushroom Kingdom (Super Mario Bros.), Mushroom Kingdom (Paper Mario), Super Mario RPG World, Dinosaur Land, Yoshi's Island, Isle Delfino, Beanbean Kingdom, Rogueport + Surrounding areas, Flipside & Flopside, Bowser’s Castle, Sarasaland, Donkey Kong Island, Sprixie Kingdom, Comet Observatory + Galaxies, Pi’illo Island)
<GBAToad>
wWAIT
<GBAToad>
https://www.mariowiki.com/Steak
<GBAToad>
ok nvm move on
<meowth>
steak
<DragonFreak>
the steak ad from wl4
<turb>
what was the place from color splash called
<Lord_Bowser>
the setting of pmcs
<Lord_Bowser>
prisma island?
<Gamefreak75>
prism island
<Gamefreak75>
iirc
<Anton{Politoed}>
14) Donkey Kong Island — 60 — 2.38% 15) Sarasaland — 53 — 2.10% 16) O. Peach's Castle (SM64) — 9 — 0.36% 17) O. Starship Mario + Galaxies — 4 — 0.16%
<Superchao>
[s]does it have a prism river[/s]
<meowth>
were at 15 so
<GBAToad>
"the steak is done" "the steak attacking mario" "mario battling the steak" this is my favourite article
<turb>
also im goign to fucking
<turb>
write in steak this year
<meowth>
i could live with adding prism island and thats it
<DragonFreak>
why did sarasaland get so low
<turb>
feel free to join me
<GBAToad>
i will
<Lord_Bowser>
https://www.mariowiki.com/Prism_Island
<GBAToad>
isn't that a location in xenoblade
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Add "Prism Island" to M28? (y/n/a)
<Lord_Bowser>
y
<GBAToad>
y
<meowth>
i dont want to remove anything because nothing did terrible
<meowth>
y
<turb>
y
<Lakituthequick>
a
<meowth>
4-0-1
<Superchao>
a
<shoutmon>
a
<Superchao>
"To get a better idea on how to model and texture the steak, the developers grilled a steak and took photographs of it while it was cooking."
<meowth>
4-0-3
<Lakituthequick>
that was one hell of a time to create that boss i see
<GBAToad>
just read the battle details
<Gamefreak75>
cant wait for pikmin 4 with real fruit physics
<GBAToad>
u have to fuckin season the steak to beat it
<DragonFreak>
y
<Gamefreak75>
y
<Lord_Bowser>
5-0-3
<Anton{Politoed}>
it's added
<Lord_Bowser>
6*
<Anton{Politoed}>
anything else with m28
<Lord_Bowser>
not really
<Superchao>
i got nothing
<Lakituthequick>
"The fight against the steak is very unconventional, as the player has to prepare the steak within three turns by doing the following steps:"
<Lakituthequick>
im dieing
<Anton{Politoed}>
M29 Favorite Classic Game (N64/GBC and older) (Super Mario World, Super Mario 64, Paper Mario, Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars, Donkey Kong 64, Super Mario Bros., Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, Mario Kart 64, Yoshi’s Story, Mario Party 2, Super Mario Bros. 2 (USA), Wario Land 3, Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest)
<Anton{Politoed}>
we removed Super Smash Bros.
<meowth>
id like to add something to bring this back to 15
<meowth>
i think it was at 15 anyway let me count
<Anton{Politoed}>
14) Super Mario Bros. 2 (USA) — 38 — 1.46% 15) Wario Land 3 — 32 — 1.23% 16) O. Mario Party 3 — 15 — 0.58% 17) O. Mario Party — 5 — 0.19%
<Superchao>
well
<DragonFreak>
super mario land
<Lord_Bowser>
sml2?
<Superchao>
mario party 3?
<Anton{Politoed}>
and yeah it's at 14 now
<meowth>
ok
<Lord_Bowser>
or both mario lands
<DragonFreak>
wario land 3
<meowth>
i'll support mario party 3
<GBAToad>
i would add mario party 3
<Anton{Politoed}>
18) O. Super Mario Land — 4 — 0.15% 19) O. Donkey Kong Country — 3 — 0.12% 19) O. Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins — 3 — 0.12% 21) O. Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels — 2 — 0.08%
<meowth>
because 15 is not a small amount of writeins
<Superchao>
wario land 3 is on there
<DragonFreak>
oh woops
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Add "Mario Party 3" to M29? (y/n/a)
<meowth>
mp3 got over three times the writeins of the smls no thanks
<meowth>
y
<DragonFreak>
also sml games did get bad write-ins but almost all writeins are bad
<Lord_Bowser>
y
<GBAToad>
y
<DragonFreak>
n
<dia>
y
<shoutmon>
y
<meowth>
5-1-0
<Lakituthequick>
a
<Superchao>
y
<meowth>
5-1-1
<meowth>
6-1-1
<Anton{Politoed}>
gr8, it's added
<Anton{Politoed}>
any other changes?
<Superchao>
nope
<turb>
o i missed this oops
<meowth>
nope
<meowth>
move on
<DragonFreak>
i still say give sml 1 or 2 a shot
<turb>
i would have supported it but yeah
<DragonFreak>
but idk that's just me
<meowth>
turb vote retroactively
<turb>
move on
<turb>
y
<meowth>
7-1-1
<meowth>
good work turb
<Anton{Politoed}>
M30 Favorite Modern Game (GCN/GBA and newer) (Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Sunshine, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Mario Kart Wii, Super Mario 3D Land, Super Paper Mario, Luigi’s Mansion: Dark Moon, Super Mario 3D World, Mario & Luigi: Bowser’s Inside Story, Mario Kart 8, Wario Land 4, Super Mario Maker, Yoshi’s Woolly World)
<turb>
thanks dictator powers
<Lord_Bowser>
add pmcs
<meowth>
add something to replace smash again
<meowth>
probably color splash
<Superchao>
how well received was color splash
<Anton{Politoed}>
13) Luigi’s Mansion: Dark Moon — 47 — 1.79% 14) Wario Land 4 — 31 — 1.18% 15) Super Mario 3D Land — 27 — 1.03% 16) O. Luigi's Mansion — 10 — 0.38% 17) O. Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam — 7 — 0.27% 17) O. New Super Mario Bros. Wii — 7 — 0.27% 19) O. Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga — 6 — 0.23%
<dia>
add meowth
<GBAToad>
nyrie come home
<meowth>
luigi's mansion if no one liked it
<Lord_Bowser>
better than sticker star
<Superchao>
add superstar sag
<Superchao>
*saga
<Gamefreak75>
thats not saying much lb
<Superchao>
i fucking love that game
<meowth>
yes, add me to favorite modern game
<turb>
i was under the impression it was lukewarm to positive
<Superchao>
that's literally my own justification
<Superchao>
hmmm
<DragonFreak>
add superstar saga
<Superchao>
i'd be willing to give it a try, then
<turb>
id probably just add luigis mansion if we aren't adding color splash
<Gamefreak75>
we need partners in time in here
<GBAToad>
warioware diy /s
<dia>
i dont really have an opinion on modern mario games
<Anton{Politoed}>
why SS over the other 3 that placed above it
<Lord_Bowser>
complete the original m&l trilogy /s
<meowth>
id rather give the new one a shot than add something thats not even the highest write in
<dia>
the only modern nintendo games i care about are sun/moon and botw
<DragonFreak>
because superstar saga was actually good
<meowth>
and i think was also removed before due to low vote numbers anyway?
<GBAToad>
drop yoshi's woolly world add poochy and yoshi's woolly world ? ?
<turb>
>luigis mansion not good
<Superchao>
anton: i was largely joking
<Anton{Politoed}>
oh god yeah we have to clarify that and make it huge
<dia>
i'd vote for poochy
<turb>
i'm gonna have to stop you right the fuck there
<Superchao>
also
<Gamefreak75>
dang sm3dl is dead last again
<Superchao>
vote to remove dragonfreak for having shit taste
<GBAToad>
luigi's mansion was my childhood df i take offense
<meowth>
nobody likes 3d land
<DragonFreak>
i never said lugi's mansion was bad
<DragonFreak>
i meant that superstar saga was actually good unlike the sequel
<DragonFreak>
s
<turb>
o
<GBAToad>
o
<DragonFreak>
you can destroy me for that tho
<turb>
well
<Anton{Politoed}>
ok so let's do this
<turb>
should we = ok
<meowth>
"actually good" implies the three above it arent though and that was the question lol
<Lord_Bowser>
considering bis exists...
Lord_Bowser destroys doof anyway
<DragonFreak>
sorry i misread the question
<Superchao>
i like partners in time :<
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Add "Paper Mario: Color Splash" to M30? (y/n/a)
<dia>
i never played any of those
<Superchao>
y
<Lord_Bowser>
y
<dia>
a
<Lakituthequick>
a
<DragonFreak>
partners in time was just ok
<meowth>
for the record im not big on ss or lm so i cannot contribute to this debate
<DragonFreak>
y
<meowth>
y
<meowth>
4-0-2
<shoutmon>
y
<turb>
y
<GBAToad>
a
<meowth>
5-0-2
<meowth>
6-0-3
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Remove "Super Mario 3D Land" from M30? (y/n/a)
<Gamefreak75>
so when do we remove df
<Lord_Bowser>
n
<Gamefreak75>
you can shit on lm, but you can shit on pit
<Gamefreak75>
cant shit on pit
<meowth>
n unless we really want to give luigi's mansion a shit
<Gamefreak75>
n
<meowth>
shot lol
<meowth>
not shit
<turb>
actually i would agrue you can shit on pit but not lm
<turb>
anyway a
<Lakituthequick>
y
<DragonFreak>
i'm not shitting on it, i said it's ok. tha'ts a 5/10
<GBAToad>
a
<Lord_Bowser>
per turb
<DragonFreak>
n
<GBAToad>
shit on pit
<meowth>
1-4-2
<Anton{Politoed}>
implication is shove luigi's mansion in there but _
<Superchao>
a
<meowth>
1-4-3
<turb>
i dont really feel comfortable enough removing it since its not THAT far behind wl4
<turb>
as much as i love lm
<Anton{Politoed}>
gr8
<meowth>
ill abstain if we vote on lm
<Anton{Politoed}>
so it will not be removed
<Anton{Politoed}>
any other changes to M30?
<GBAToad>
poochy?
<meowth>
i think this is good
<meowth>
oh wait yeah poochy
<turb>
aside from the poochy/yww thing which should follow standard set by previous awards
<turb>
i dont really think we have anything to debate
<Anton{Politoed}>
I already did that
<turb>
i mena
<turb>
we merged them before
<meowth>
ok
<turb>
and oh ok
<meowth>
then yes i think mario awards first sweep is over
<Lord_Bowser>
yeah i think this is fine
<Lakituthequick>
small thing again
<turb>
wii did it
<Lord_Bowser>
wii did it
<turb>
we're on schedule
<Anton{Politoed}>
gr8
<Lakituthequick>
spaces between the names and the slash
<dia>
ok
<Anton{Politoed}>
we still have some things to settle for Mario Awards
<Superchao>
good work us
<Anton{Politoed}>
I removed the spaces from everything
<Superchao>
yeah, i take it the priority is going to be picking the new M19
<Anton{Politoed}>
since that's the more common standard than my own quirk
<Anton{Politoed}>
see, there's an example of me not being corrupt
<Lakituthequick>
oh ok
<Anton{Politoed}>
:)
<dia>
i like no space in between slashes
<meowth>
:)
Lord_Bowser gives anton a "u did it" sticker
<meowth>
wii u did it
<Anton{Politoed}>
so what's left is:
<Anton{Politoed}>
*Filter through M9 Favorite DLC's current nominees and reconsider new additions; will update the thread with that
<Anton{Politoed}>
*Develop ideas for an M19 replacement; will create a thread for that
<turb>
gud
<Anton{Politoed}>
we'll confirm and finalize those decisions during the next meeting, and then promptly begin Fail Awards
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<Lord_Bowser>
alrighty
<GBAToad>
yay
<Anton{Politoed}>
in the same leg
<Lord_Bowser>
mariofan you missed it
<Anton{Politoed}>
Shroom staff has begun working on the Community Awards
<Lord_Bowser>
we voted to eliminate you from the ac
<meowth>
ok
<Anton{Politoed}>
the first tangible thing coming from it being https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=38392.0
<meowth>
bye mariofan
<turb>
favorite species better not get on there
<turb>
it was ass
<Mariofan169>
I'm very sorry for missing again, my family got in the way since they thought I was spending too much time in my room
<turb>
i was incapable of writing humor that month
<dia>
ok
<dia>
sorry mf
<Anton{Politoed}>
as well as a thing to keep in the back of everyone's heads: we may need an idea for a new Community Award