mwikiawards.2017-04-15

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 <turb> 
soon
 <DragonFreak> 
Tm
 <Lord_Bowser> 
™️
 <Lakituthequick> 
I have six Google Docs open for the meeting, should be enough
 <turb> 
hello everyone and welcome to meeting
 <turb> 
idk 6 I guess it's in the topic
 <shoutmon> 
gabumon wants me to announce that he cant make it because his computer is in limbo
 <turb> 
im here to host it and try not to shit myself
  
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 <turb> 
and thats ok
 <turb> 
ill excuse him
 <Freakworld> 
im active
 <DragonFreak> 
Nuuuuuu ;(
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i believe in you
 <DragonFreak> 
* :(
 
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 <Lord_Bowser> 
hi mr humble pisser
 <turb> 
ok so
 <turb> 
list of topics
 <Meta_Knight> 
im fashionably early
 <turb> 
*wording for f11
 <Freakworld> 
did anton die
 <turb> 
*battle course idea
 <turb> 
no he's off getting drunk and looking at art
 <DragonFreak> 
He cant make it fw
 <Freakworld> 
rip anton
 
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 <turb> 
*-where to place the battle course award
 <turb> 
*community awards
 <turb> 
and uh that's about it i guess
 <Freakworld> 
>topic
 <Freakworld> 
jontron did nothing wrong
 <turb> 
so
 <turb> 
moving on
 <turb> 
re: the wording for f11
 <turb> 
we're trying to finalize that as all positive or all negative phrasing
 <turb> 
personally i'm leaning more towards negative myself but
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i would prefer negative
 <turb> 
let me pull up the topic with ltq's suggestions
 <Lord_Bowser> 
after all it is a fail award
 <Lakituthequick> 
https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=38453.0
 <Meta_Knight> 
id rather have negative
 <shoutmon> 
when you say all negative
 <shoutmon> 
you mean always describing the event that didnt happen, right?
 <turb> 
oh i was too slow pulling it up
 <turb> 
yes
 <shoutmon> 
not just putting a "not" in every sentence
 <turb> 
https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=38453.msg1925843#msg1925843
 <turb> 
"desired unreality" here would be positive phrasing
 <turb> 
and vice versa for negative
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
id' rather go with negative aka undesirable reality
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i feel like the focu of the award is clearer that way
 <turb> 
yeah
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i.e. "this is what they fucked up by doing"
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
and also most of our entries were that way alread
 <turb> 
yeah a large majority of them are already like that
 <turb> 
so it would be better to finalize them
 <turb> 
idk if this needs to be put to a vote
 <turb> 
i think we just really need to clear up a few questionable wordings
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i posted a suggestion for one and i like LTQ's suggestions for the last two
 <turb> 
as do i
 <turb> 
i like your suggestion for pmss
 <turb> 
as for the amiibo thing
 <turb> 
we could use Inadequate Amiibo Production
 <turb> 
of course trans issues is once again hard as fuck to do anything with
 <Lord_Bowser> 
"Misrepresentation of Trans Issues"?
 <turb> 
maybe
 <shoutmon> 
just say transphobia tbh
 <Lakituthequick> 
They didn't represent it at all so 'mis' isnt relly acurate
 <turb> 
i think we used transphobia once yeah
 
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 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
Transphobia (Birdo, Vivian)?
 <turb> 
and it's valid in birdo's case
 <shoutmon> 
yeah
 <turb> 
yeah
 <turb> 
are there any other trans characters
 <turb> 
because i like that nominee name
 <Lord_Bowser> 
not that i know of
 <turb> 
i just dont know if theres anyone else to stick on it
 <turb> 
ok
 <Lord_Bowser> 
lemme double check
 
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 <turb> 
i'm dying so i'm going to go get a snack
 <turb> 
have fun for like 3 minutes in anarchy and chaos
 <shoutmon> 
theres some characters who have changed gender, but only as part of localisation issues, i think
 <shoutmon> 
like bonetail was female in some regions
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
overthrow the bourgeoisie
 <Nyrie> 
use double negative phrasing
 
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 <Lakituthequick> 
..does a skeleton still have a real gender while being a skeleton
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
also i don't think that would count
 <Freakworld> 
weee anarchy
 <Uniju> 
cant you tell what sex animals are from their skeletons
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i found nothing besides some random message on the roy (koopaling) talkpage which literally no one else agreed with
 <Nyrie> 
do dragons have penis bones
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
oh is that the lemmyistrans person
 <DragonFreak> 
Sometimes nyrie
 <Lord_Bowser> 
so it's safe to say only birdo and vivian
 <Lord_Bowser> 
surprisingly no
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
huh
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
how about that
 <shoutmon> 
thats offensive to me ltlq
 <turb> 
ive returned from death
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
u did it
 <shoutmon> 
do transgender skeletons have dysphoria about the size of their pelvis?
 <Lord_Bowser> 
do we know any trans skeletons
 <turb> 
do we need to hold a vote on this or are we all pretty in agreement with the negative phrasing/wordings
 <Freakworld> 
y
 <turb> 
I'll make up a list
 <Nyrie> 
oh i just realized anton isnt here
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yep
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
we overthrew him just like we did ralph in the eternal cycle
 <shoutmon> 
i think whats been said about it so far is correct
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
soon turb will be overthrown
 <Lakituthequick> 
so we are calling it 'Transphobia'?
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
(sorry turb)
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
specifically "Transphobia (Birdo, Vivian)"
 <turb> 
its ok
 <turb> 
yeah that
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
to make it clear what the cases were
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i would be alright with that
 <Nyrie> 
was it really transphobia
 <turb> 
right now i'm piling the nominees together
 <turb> 
with the new wording
 <turb> 
i mean what happened to birdo definitely was
 <Nyrie> 
oh
 <Nyrie> 
right
 <turb> 
you could argue that vivian's censorship was a byproduct of it
 <Nyrie> 
i guess thats fine then
 <shoutmon> 
vivians story was pretty transphobic even before censorship
 <Freakworld> 
yeah so i agree with rewording these
 <shoutmon> 
since nobody ever really acknowledges her as agirl in the story
 <Freakworld> 
i dont really have any more input
 <turb> 
Biggest Missed Opportunity (Sony Partnership Failure, Transphobia (Birdo, Vivian), Inadequate amiibo production, Super Mario Spikers Cancellation, Mario Takes America Cancellation, Donkey Kong Coconut Crackers Cancellation, Failure of the Mario Artist Series, Mario & Wario not being localized, Wrecking Crew '98 not being localized, Abandonment of the Paper Mario: Sticker Star Early Build,...
 <turb> 
...Donkey Kong Racing Cancellation, Super Mario's Wacky Worlds Cancellation, Taking down fangames, Lack of online level sharing in SMM3DS)
 <turb> 
sticker star one still needs a bit of work
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
hmmm
 <turb> 
also, possibly unabbreviating smm3ds
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
we could make it "Abandoning Paper Mario: Sticker Star Early Build" to cut a couple words
 <turb> 
gr8
 <turb> 
ok i've changed it to that
 <Nyrie> 
inadequate transphobia production
 <Meta_Knight> 
if we unabbreviate smm3ds it would get kinda wordy
 <Meta_Knight> 
is there no online whatsoever in mario maker 3ds or is it just sharing thats blocked
 <Nyrie> 
every nominee is wordy
 <DragonFreak> 
It's only local play sharing
 <Freakworld> 
no online uploading
 <Freakworld> 
iirc playing online works
 <Freakworld> 
dont quote me on that though
 <Freakworld> 
might be no online at all actually
 <shoutmon> 
if we keep smm3ds short should we change to pmss too
 <Lakituthequick> 
Full name is Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS
 <turb> 
yeah
 <turb> 
@22 probably
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i would rather have smm3ds stay as is
 <turb> 
well
 <Lord_Bowser> 
the alt is too wordy imo
 <turb> 
I unabbreviated it on the list but its not a big deal
 <turb> 
ill just abbreviate sticker star too
 <DragonFreak> 
Well it doesnt matter because it will be wordy when you say it in your head
 <DragonFreak> 
Unless you would literally read ssm3ds as s-s-m-3-d-s
 <Lakituthequick> 
difference between SS and SMM though
 <turb> 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MKs8Rz9QsrkL88EfSI-HAGwSoNQDZT8Tt6MHMDJAFVI/edit
 <DragonFreak> 
Er i mispelled that but you know what i mean
 <Freakworld> 
id be in favor of going for the middle road
 <turb> 
if this is good i'm just gonna move on
 <turb> 
i feel bad for taking 20 minutes on this
 <Lakituthequick> 
is ss is the main point of the nom
 <Freakworld> 
and renaming it to super mario maker 3DS
 
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 <Lakituthequick> 
while smm is more spcifying
 <turb> 
i had it as super mario maker 3ds before
 <turb> 
hi
 <Freakworld> 
and leaving the other one as is
 <Gabumon> 
hi
 <Freakworld> 
h
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i
 <DragonFreak> 
Hi edo!
 <Lord_Bowser> 
anyway i'd just move on
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
hi edo!
 <turb> 
good idea
 <DragonFreak> 
Yes edo is a good idea
 <turb> 
i dont feel like being anal about it for 20 more minutes
 <turb> 
so
 <turb> 
Battle Course award
 <Freakworld> 
being anal is good though
 <Lord_Bowser> 
doing*
 <Freakworld> 
i wrote something about that in the thread just now
 <turb> 
https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=38454.0
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'm basically going to have to sit this one out
 <DragonFreak> 
I am not familiar with any battle courses at all
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i have 0 experience with the battle coursses
 <DragonFreak> 
I never play them
 <turb> 
that's fine
 <Freakworld> 
ive played every battle course at least once
 <Freakworld> 
do i qualify
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i played them
 <turb> 
so what we need to decide is what we're actually doing with this award
 <turb> 
before we go super in depth with nominees
 <Freakworld> 
except for the mk8 deluxe ones obviously
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i say keep it as a backup
 <shoutmon> 
its ok perch
 <Lord_Bowser> 
if an award needs to be dropped add this one in
 <turb> 
personally i want to replace super mario maker elements with this
 <turb> 
but _
 <shoutmon> 
i barely play battle courses, and this is my award
 <Lord_Bowser> 
well it would be more relevant
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i would be okay with it
 <Freakworld> 
thought this was going to replace the smash one
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
SMM elements is basically going to be the same if we don't cut it
 <shoutmon> 
no we have favorite va for that
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
no, smash is getting- yeah
 <Freakworld> 
favorite what
 <turb> 
hold on
 <turb> 
i'll set up a vote
 <Freakworld> 
what did i miss
 <turb> 
actor
 <shoutmon> 
voice actor
 <Freakworld> 
when did that happen
 <turb> 
read the full list dumy
 <Nyrie> 
i play battle courses
 <turb> 
read
 <shoutmon> 
oh is it just actor
 <shoutmon> 
i fortgot
 <turb> 
it's good for you
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yeah
 <turb> 
anyway
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
we're counting the live action
 <Freakworld> 
i dont have chrome up rn because battery saving
 <Lakituthequick> 
ive played a good chunk of battle courses
 <Freakworld> 
i generally agree with ltq
 <Freakworld> 
's list + maybe block fort
 <turb> 
What should we do with the favorite battle course award? (M - Merge with M4, F - Merge with F8, R - Replace SMM Design Elements, B - Keep as backup)
 <Freakworld> 
but we probably should have a vote
 <turb> 
i fucking hate these options lmao dude
 <turb> 
R
 <Freakworld> 
uh
 <shoutmon> 
r
 <Freakworld> 
too many options
 <Freakworld> 
B
 <Lord_Bowser> 
r
 <turb> 
i dont know how else to word it
 <Lakituthequick> 
also re: twilight house i did consider adding it to my list but i was like 'its eight squares and a sidewalk, ill pass'
 <Lakituthequick> 
r
 <Nyrie> 
r
 <Freakworld> 
yeah twilight house isnt that spectacular
 <Freakworld> 
luigis mansion does the job better
 <shoutmon> 
i liked twilight house :'(
 <Meta_Knight> 
r
 <Lord_Bowser> 
me too 22 :'(
 <Lakituthequick> 
it does have a certain atmoshere to it so its not bad either though
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
R
 <Freakworld> 
twilight house makes for some interesting missions
 <shoutmon> 
definitely more than nintendo ds
 <Lakituthequick> 
but the squares
 <Freakworld> 
nintendo ds is great
 <Lakituthequick> 
ds is unique
 <Nyrie> 
add n64 block fort
 <shoutmon> 
i found ds to b very boring
 <Lord_Bowser> 
0-0-7-1
 <Nyrie> 
then ill be satisfied
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i think
 <Freakworld> 
also yeah per nyrie but i really think we should have a poll in like
 <Freakworld> 
the thread
 <meowth> 
i'm here
 <turb> 
we'll get to block fort later
 <Freakworld> 
she's here
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
...for one course?
 <shoutmon> 
i definitely think we shoudl add blcok fort
 <Freakworld> 
no
 <Freakworld> 
for like
 <Lord_Bowser> 
hi smasher i stole your job
 <meowth> 
oh theres a vote
 <Freakworld> 
nominees and shit since i dont think we should juszt
 <meowth> 
r
 <Freakworld> 
go with that list
 <turb> 
idk though like are the nominees a highly contested thing
 <meowth> 
0-0-8-1
 <Freakworld> 
ltq posted
 <meowth> 
you're fired
 <Freakworld> 
without giving people
 <turb> 
i can make a topic for it
 <Lord_Bowser> 
sad
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
beyond block fort they don't seem to be
 <Freakworld> 
the option to choose more or w/e
 <turb> 
and just tell people to shove in their suggestions
 <turb> 
but honestly i mean
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
well if there's more you want
 <turb> 
we have writeins for a reason
 <shoutmon> 
this topic was already for suggestions tbh
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
you could just suggest them now
 <Freakworld> 
i mean we can say rn that we agree with ltqs list thats fine by me
 <turb> 
plus it can be discussed here a bit
 <turb> 
and yeah
 <shoutmon> 
ltq, lb and turb are the only ones who made any
 <turb> 
anyway
 <Nyrie> 
i'd agree with ltq's list + block fort
 <Freakworld> 
me as well right now
 <turb> 
i think the motion to replace smm design elements passes
 <shoutmon> 
so uh, if you disagreed, you should have disagreed when it wasnt the middle of the meeting tbh
 <turb> 
over half the people here voted
 <Lord_Bowser> 
is that it
 <Freakworld> 
yes the meetings over
 <Lord_Bowser> 
before that i move to ban freakworld
 <turb> 
yeah everyone go home
 <turb> 
anyway no i have to add it to the full list
 <turb> 
so
 <turb> 
right now
 <turb> 
can i hold a vote
 <Lord_Bowser> 
y
 <turb> 
Finalize LTQ's list? Y - N - A
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
y
 <turb> 
now you can vote
 <turb> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Nyrie> 
y
 <Lord_Bowser> 
y
 <turb> 
we'll vote on block fort later
 <shoutmon> 
y
 <Freakworld> 
oh ok
 <Freakworld> 
then
 <Freakworld> 
<
 <Freakworld> 
y
 <DragonFreak> 
Y
 <Meta_Knight> 
y
 <Lord_Bowser> 
9-0-0
 <DragonFreak> 
It took me 10 seconds to type that y
 <Lakituthequick> 
copy pastable should be
 <Lakituthequick> 
Battle Course 1 (SNES), Skyscraper, Battle Course 4 (GBA), Pipe Plaza, Luigi's Mansion, Nintendo DS, Delfino Pier, Funky Stadium, Honeybee Hive, Battle Stadium, Urchin Underpass
 <turb> 
thx
 <turb> 
so
 <Lakituthequick> 
assuming there arent other courses with matihng names in other games
 <turb> 
i think this passes
 <Lakituthequick> 
:partypopper:
 <turb> 
Add N64 Block Fort to the nominees? Y - N - A
 <turb> 
Y
 <Lord_Bowser> 
👏
 <Nyrie> 
y
 <Freakworld> 
Y
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <shoutmon> 
y
 <DragonFreak> 
Y
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
y
 <Lord_Bowser> 
y
 <Lord_Bowser> 
8-0-0
 <Lakituthequick> 
would put that after skyscraper in the list
 <turb> 
so i dont think anything has exactly the same name here as another course
 <turb> 
that isn't noted on the list
 <turb> 
block fort has a similar name to other courses but people should still know what it is
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i would specify n64 for block fort though
 <Freakworld> 
nice
 <turb> 
we'll clarify it later if we have to probably
 <Lord_Bowser> 
cause too similar
 <turb> 
i guess so yeah
 <turb> 
im pissed that nintendo did this
 <Lord_Bowser> 
block plaza, block city, etc
 <turb> 
Nintendo DS (Nintendo DS)
 <shoutmon> 
oh shit, there's a block plaza now too?
 <Lakituthequick> 
there are no other block forts but year there is plaza from wii and city fron gcn so
 <Freakworld> 
ye
 <turb> 
yeah in mkwii it hink
 <Nyrie> 
22 i thought you played mkw
 <turb> 
does anyone else want to suggest anything or vote on twilight plaza
 <Freakworld> 
well block fort from n64 is in ds as well
 <turb> 
if not, i think we can move on to community awards
 <shoutmon> 
i did, but i didnt really like the battle mode so i only played it like twice
 <Lakituthequick> 
Block Fort (the one on the N64)
 <turb> 
yeah and skyscraper from 64 is in wii
 <turb> 
theyre just ports though
 <shoutmon> 
i only played ds battle mode a lot
 <Freakworld> 
yeah
 <turb> 
i only feel i need to signify the difference here because nintendo made them all similar
 
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 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
hi gf
 <shoutmon> 
i spent approximately two years of my life on race mode in mkw though
 <Freakworld> 
same
 <Nyrie> 
what a good game
 <shoutmon> 
and ive hated clouds ever since *glares at ltq*
 <Gamefreak75> 
oh hey im not super late
 <Gamefreak75> 
hi
 <turb> 
anyway
 <Lord_Bowser> 
am i a satanist if i sold mkwii
 <Freakworld> 
i have irl friends who drag me into playing mkw every week
 <turb> 
last call for more nominees for favorite battle course
 <Freakworld> 
since well over a year
 <turb> 
or voting on twilight house
 <Lakituthequick> 
shoutmon: :3
 <shoutmon> 
i vote yes on twilight house
 <Gamefreak75> 
is block fort ds on there?
 <Lord_Bowser> 
per 22
 <turb> 
block fort n64 is on there
 <Gamefreak75> 
or w/e it was
 <turb> 
which is the same as ds
 <Gamefreak75> 
good
 <Gamefreak75> 
best course
 <Freakworld> 
block fort n64 = ds yeah
 <Gamefreak75> 
is there a list i can see
 <Lakituthequick> 
ds didnt signify retro battlecourses as such
 <turb> 
having the n64 there kind of bugs me but at the same time we probably do unironically need it so w/e
 <Gamefreak75> 
for the current nominees
 <turb> 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MKs8Rz9QsrkL88EfSI-HAGwSoNQDZT8Tt6MHMDJAFVI/edit
 <turb> 
Favorite Battle Course (Battle Course 1 (SNES), Skyscraper, Block Fort (N64), Battle Course 4 (GBA), Pipe Plaza, Luigi's Mansion, Nintendo DS, Delfino Pier, Funky Stadium, Honeybee Hive, Battle Stadium, Urchin Underpass)
 <Nyrie> 
what game is Nintendo DS from again?
 <Gamefreak75> 
wii
 <turb> 
Nintendo DS
 <Freakworld> 
mkds...
 <Freakworld> 
what else...
 <Lakituthequick> 
its from n64
 <shoutmon> 
i think she was being sarcastic you guys
 <Lakituthequick> 
when it didnt exist yet
 <turb> 
i cant fuckign believe they just named a course nintendo ds
 <shoutmon> 
i mean
 <turb> 
I'm actually mad
 <Lakituthequick> 
well to ve fair
 <Gamefreak75> 
im fine with adding twilight house btw
 <turb> 
i know its a literal ds
 <shoutmon> 
double dash had "nintendo gamecube"
 <Freakworld> 
and guess what it looks like
 
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 <Gamefreak75> 
also the 8 bit mario once
 <Lakituthequick> 
its literally a nintendo ds
 <turb> 
true i guess
 <turb> 
hi
 <Gamefreak75> 
topsy turby
 <turb> 
so
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Hi I'm not really here
 <Gamefreak75> 
turvy
 <turb> 
i'll get this out of the way
 <Lord_Bowser> 
anton!
 <Gamefreak75> 
or w/e
 <Freakworld> 
the gamecube one was like unacceptable though
 <shoutmon> 
gamecube was a pretty weird course
 <Freakworld> 
xD
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
hi not really here anton
 <turb> 
Add Twilight House? Y - N - A
 <shoutmon> 
it was just a square
 <Lord_Bowser> 
y
 <turb> 
A
 <Gamefreak75> 
y
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
a
 <Lakituthequick> 
n
 <Meta_Knight> 
y
 <shoutmon> 
with one little divot on the reset button
 <shoutmon> 
y
 <Freakworld> 
n
 <DragonFreak> 
A
 <shoutmon> 
and like one corner cut off?
 <shoutmon> 
really dumb
 <Lord_Bowser> 
4-2-3
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
all i can think of is that super monkey ball course
 
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 <Gamefreak75> 
pipe plaza was great too
 <Nyrie> 
n
 <Freakworld> 
super monkey ball best gdq game
 <Lord_Bowser> 
4-3-3
 <Gamefreak75> 
i can never unlock the gamecube level in smb2
 <Lord_Bowser> 
22 we're being oppressed :(
 <Gamefreak75> 
i always die at one of the special stages
 <Gamefreak75> 
and then end up with a continue
 <shoutmon> 
time for a political purge i guess
 <shoutmon> 
i cant believe nintendo ds got in over twilight house
 <turb> 
switch from a to y
 <turb> 
5-3-2
 <turb> 
idk if that's still too close to call
 <Lord_Bowser> 
you're a good man, turboo
 <Nyrie> 
hhh
 <Lakituthequick> 
i think its good
 <Nyrie> 
ok i guess it was okay
 <Freakworld> 
despicable
 <Nyrie> 
change me to y
 <turb> 
it was an alright course
 <turb> 
6-2-2
 <Lord_Bowser> 
6-2-2
 <turb> 
passes now i assume?
 <Freakworld> 
yeah it was okay tbh
 <turb> 
thats 9 people total voting
 <Lord_Bowser> 
that's 10
 <Freakworld> 
i just dont think we should clog the award up so maybe we stop here?
 <Lakituthequick> 
Freakworld: nah
 <Freakworld> 
:(
 <turb> 
oh
 <turb> 
that is 10
 <turb> 
fuck me
 <Lakituthequick> 
lets put all battle courses ever on it
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
turb can't math, confirmed
 <turb> 
im just stopping here because i want to get to community awards tbf
 <Freakworld> 
ok lets all vote for the cake one
 <shoutmon> 
while ive thought that we might do better to have smaller awards,
 <shoutmon> 
i dont think we should do that just here
 <Freakworld> 
that one drove me insane
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Ok I'm leaving now that I threw things at turb in query
 <turb> 
if anyone else has suggestions
 <shoutmon> 
if we want to make that a policy, we should do it with every award
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm off to binge drink
 <Freakworld> 
bye anton have fun
 <turb> 
throw them in the topic for the battle course shit
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Have fun guys
 <turb> 
have fun anton
 <Lord_Bowser> 
glhf anton
 <Freakworld> 
dont end up like me when im drun
 <Freakworld> 
k
 <turb> 
like we can probably just add suggestions here if people actually make them
 <turb> 
- me, who made one suggestion
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i say just move on
 <turb> 
yeah
 <turb> 
so anyway
 <turb> 
community awards
 <Freakworld> 
hype
 <turb> 
i need to pull up shit for this
 <turb> 
a disclaimer, though
 <turb> 
if you don't know anything about what's being discussed that's ok
 <turb> 
you can just sit out from the discussion instead of mentioning you have nothing to contribute lo
 <Freakworld> 
also i might go to bed in 10 minutes
 <turb> 
anyway
 <turb> 
this was formerly S1 but now it's C1
 <meowth> 
sorry i haven't said much i'm kind of distracted right now
 <turb> 
Favorite ‘Shroom Directing Staff (Sadaharu, Stooben, Tucayo, Super Mario Bros., Superchao, 2257, Mr. Edo, Turboo, Meta Knight)
 <meowth> 
i'll pay more attention now
 <Lakituthequick> 
Freakworld its 2:48 not time for bed at all
 <turb> 
this was discussed in the shroom meeting channel
 <turb> 
and i assume most people are ok with it
 <Freakworld> 
ive been awake since like 7 am
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i support
 <Lakituthequick> 
(go sleep if needed)
 <turb> 
i'm honestly flying by the seat of my pants with shroom
 <Meta_Knight> 
support
 <shoutmon> 
yes
 <Freakworld> 
y
 <meowth> 
this is fine
 <turb> 
thank god i have notes
 <Lakituthequick> 
Meta Knight is new, RandomYoshi was removed
 <Lakituthequick> 
if im not mistaken
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
correct
 <Meta_Knight> 
correct
 <Meta_Knight> 
oh perch ninja'd me
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
randomyoshi was removed for actions he took
 <Freakworld> 
mk is the new pi confimred
 <turb> 
yeah
 <turb> 
SO i'm trying not to have an aneurysm over the full list formatting right now so we will move on
 <turb> 
C2 is a placeholder award right now but i'll get the ideas for it
 <Freakworld> 
why are we using google docs anyways and not microsoft office
 <Lakituthequick> 
because google docs can be easily viewed by everyone at once
 <Freakworld> 
(sorry im biased were using office online at work)
 <Gabumon> 
doesnt microsoft office have to be purchased
 <Lakituthequick> 
with live edits
 <DragonFreak> 
Yeah google docs are online
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
because there's ten years worth of past information on docs
 <Freakworld> 
yeah it sort of work with microsoft as well by now
 <Freakworld> 
*works
 <turb> 
Best ‘Shroom Section Artwork or U2/U3 Merge or New Award (Placeholder)
 <Freakworld> 
but yeah the free version is less great than the purchasable one thats true
 <Meta_Knight> 
for 'Shroom Section Artwork
 <shoutmon> 
tfw freakworld is shilling microsoft in awards meetings
 <Meta_Knight> 
what that means is that
 <Meta_Knight> 
we split best use of images into two categories
 <turb> 
yeah
 <Meta_Knight> 
one recognizing artwork within sections
 <Freakworld> 
idk i just felt like mentioning
 <Meta_Knight> 
and one recognizing sections that use images as a visual aid to support their sections
 <turb> 
right now we're discussing the artwork within sections version
 <turb> 
there are concerns about best use of images i.e. the visual aid one
 <turb> 
but we will get to those later
 <turb> 
Police Blotter (Lord Bowser), Sport Report (Alex95), Game Corner (YKMR3000), Peddler's Place (Toadbert101), Cooking Guide (The Pyro Guy), Dear Anton (Hypnotoad), Monthly Inquisition (Lord Bowser), Hot Records (Banjonator1), It's aMAZEing (Meta Knight), Picross (The Pyro Guy), What's on the Box? (The Pyro Guy), Game Mods (Baby Luigi), Lord Bowser's Inside Story (Lord Bowser), Anton's...
 <turb> 
...Half-Baked Reviews (Hypnotoad)
 <turb> 
this is a list of proposed nominees for shroom section artwork
 <turb> 
though removing what's on the box and moving game mods to best use of images has been brought up i think?
 <Meta_Knight> 
if they make their own artwork they can keep it but if they don't they will be removed
 <turb> 
if what's on the box is just tpg finding an image then i would agree with the removal
 <Lord_Bowser> 
tfw i'm a nominee three times
 
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 <Lord_Bowser> 
do i really deserve it for mi tho all i do is like two sprites per section :p
 <Freakworld> 
i should make shroom sections again
 <Meta_Knight> 
this is just a list of proposed nominees
 
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 <Meta_Knight> 
nothing is set in stone yet
 <turb> 
yeah
 <turb> 
if you guys have questions and concerns feel free to mention them
 <turb> 
otherwise we'll probably vote on finalizing this/what to do with what's on the box and game mods
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i've got to run an errand
 <turb> 
i'm really unsure what game mods actually falls under
 <turb> 
have fun
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
bac in 5-15 minutes
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'll try
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i mean i wouldn't mind if it stayed but idk it almost seems unfair lol
 <Lord_Bowser> 
cya perch
 <turb> 
if you're the nominee in question and you don't want to be on we can always remove you
 <turb> 
we've done that before
 <Meta_Knight> 
yeah
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i don't have a problem /being/ on the award at all
 <Meta_Knight> 
the main purpose for this proposed test was just to see if there would be enough nominees for a split
 <turb> 
if someone created something/is a nominee on a community award and wants to be removed their opinion always takes highest priority
 <turb> 
no i know
 <turb> 
but like, if you want to be removed for mi in particular
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i'm just not sure if the art i do for mi is worthy as a nominee
 <turb> 
that's not an issue
 <Meta_Knight> 
and keep in mind many fun stuff sections were omitted because i didnt know which ones were artwork and which weere generated online like word search and crosswords
 <turb> 
^
 <turb> 
this is something that doesn't need to be completely shit over today though
 <Meta_Knight> 
yeah
 <turb> 
like im p sure we have a fair amount of time to debate over this
 <turb> 
so
 <turb> 
if this is a stalemate
 <Lord_Bowser> 
eh i'll discuss more later
 <turb> 
i can just add this tentatively to the community awards doc i have
 <Lord_Bowser> 
move on for now
 <turb> 
and we can move on to the next one
 <turb> 
ok
 <Meta_Knight> 
we can bring it up again when it gets to the other part of the split
 <Meta_Knight> 
where there might be more to discuss for it
 <turb> 
yeah
 <turb> 
Favorite Artist (Mr. Edo, Neptune, Toadbert101, Smg2daisy, Lakituthequick, Anton, Walkazo, The Pyro Guy, Niiue, Stargatedalek, MeritC, Uniju, Lord Bowser)
 <turb> 
does this look good to everyone
 <shoutmon> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
+ Uniju, Lord Bowser -Aldo, Super Luigi! Number one!, Master Crash
 <Meta_Knight> 
y
 <Freakworld> 
i dont remember what stargatedalek made other than that y
 <turb> 
she made plushies i think
 <Lord_Bowser> 
is this shroom specific or in general
 <shoutmon> 
i basically approved all of these in the shroom meeting already
 <turb> 
it's on the dossier somewhere
 <Freakworld> 
ah right
 <turb> 
in general
 <Meta_Knight> 
this is in general
 <Freakworld> 
then y
 <turb> 
this was a former community award
 <Lord_Bowser> 
if latter then i want to add mk
 <turb> 
he's on there lol
 <turb> 
or wait
 <turb> 
no
 <turb> 
hes not
 <turb> 
im stupid and mixed him up wit hyou
 <Lord_Bowser> 
you pulled an lgm turb
 <turb> 
im upset
 <turb> 
he got added to c1 ok so i got confused
 <turb> 
anyway if you want to vote on adding mk that's fine with me
 <Lord_Bowser> 
lol
 <turb> 
i can't remember if he brought himself up in the shroom meeting
 <Meta_Knight> 
i didnt
 <turb> 
i was transient for like most of that because i was in the middle of dnd
 <Meta_Knight> 
if i need to provide artwork then i can
 <Meta_Knight> 
because a lot of recent stuff ive done has been sent privately to people
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i mean you have your art thread mk
 <Lord_Bowser> 
you can use that
 <turb> 
add MK to favorite artist? y - n - a
 <Meta_Knight> 
but not a lot of that is relevant
 <Lord_Bowser> 
y
 <turb> 
a
 <Meta_Knight> 
a
 <Freakworld> 
y
 <shoutmon> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
tbh i cant recall art from mk atm
 <Freakworld> 
i can so y
 <Lakituthequick> 
maybe because im tired but
 <Lakituthequick> 
..
 <Freakworld> 
:^ )
 <Meta_Knight> 
ltq my current avatar was made by me
 <DragonFreak> 
Y
 <Meta_Knight> 
and also my past avatar was
 <Meta_Knight> 
and also my potential next avatar for a mega man fad
 <Freakworld> 
>mega man fad
 <Meta_Knight> 
which i havent shown in public but for the sake of this i will
 <Meta_Knight> 
yeah fw this is mega man's 30th anniversary
 <Freakworld> 
i sure hope zero since claimed yet
 <Freakworld> 
#*isnt
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Meta_Knight> 
http://i.imgur.com/CBTCMv1.png
 <Freakworld> 
would rather go protoman but i can imagine 3k is in for that
 <Meta_Knight> 
http://i.imgur.com/Sj9pMuX.png
 <turb> 
6-0-2 i think?
 <turb> 
id say thats a pass
 <turb> 
anyway
 <turb> 
as for this next one
 <turb> 
its c4
 <Lord_Bowser> 
boom
 <turb> 
the favorite presentation one
 <Freakworld> 
and c4 was
 <Freakworld> 
ok
 <turb> 
the one me and anton were yelling about
 <Freakworld> 
i voted
 <turb> 
i locked voting earlier and i'm just going to fucking
 <turb> 
stuff in everything that got 6 or more votes
 <turb> 
because that's exactly 18 nominees
 <turb> 
so wii did it
 <Lord_Bowser> 
yay
 <turb> 
no discussion needed here just me not being lazy and getting the nominees later
 <turb> 
so
 <turb> 
c5 time
 <turb> 
im pretty sure the wiki staff finalized this one for the most part
 <turb> 
since yk and tucayo were in agreement about it
 <Freakworld> 
well im literally dying rn so
 <turb> 
and no one else really posted lol
 <Freakworld> 
good night
 <turb> 
good night
 <turb> 
stop being weak
 <Lord_Bowser> 
nite freakworld
 <turb> 
i stayed up until 7:30 in the morning
 
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 <DragonFreak> 
Uh
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
hi
 <DragonFreak> 
Hi
 
Lord_Bowser perches on perch
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
so what' the nominees for C5
 <turb> 
getting them rn
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
and i'm curious why unless that's too much to ask too
 <turb> 
Wiki Contributor Award 2017 (Mister Wu, Time Turner, Toa 95, Baby Luigi, LeftyGreenMario, Niiue, Lindsay151, Mario jc, Tucayo, Glowsquid, A gossip-loving Toad, Alex95, TheFlameChomp, Toadette the Achiever, Wildgoosespeeder)
 <turb> 
there were reasons provided in the staff board
 <turb> 
honestly i thought lgm was still active and i think yk would know that but she like
 <turb> 
retired a day ago
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yeah
 <turb> 
i guess she's still valid for the award
 <turb> 
since she had contributed recently
 <Lakituthequick> 
Added: A gossip-loving Toad, Alex95, TheFlameChomp, Toadette the Achiever, Wildgoosespeeder
 <Lakituthequick> 
Removed: Walkazo, Megadardery, Borp, LinkTheLefty, RandomYoshi
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i would say she is
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
it's like how person of the year counts stuff from 2016
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
due to awards cycle
 <turb> 
yeah
 <turb> 
A gossip-loving Toad - Has done a lot for the wiki in the past year. Has immersed themself in quality discussions, adding foreign names, formatting and filling niches in coverage.
 <turb> 
Alex95 - Keeps on top of recent changes and discussions, contributes actively and takes on projects.
 <turb> 
TheFlameChomp - A very active contributor, often does content-heavy work and quality-control.
 <turb> 
Toadette the Achiever - Is good at filling gaps in content (such as creating lots of level articles), starting discussions and enforcing wiki policy.
 <turb> 
Wildgoosespeeder - Specialises in uploading high-quality screenshots, and general image and article maintenance.
 <turb> 
right now i feel confident enough in this one to just finalize it
 <turb> 
oh, yeah
 <Lord_Bowser> 
seems alright, not a fan of wildgoosespeeder's attitude but that's besides the point
 <turb> 
also i need to slap YK himself on there LOL
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i'm okay with it
 <Lord_Bowser> 
pff lol
 <turb> 
since i agree with him being on there
 <turb> 
and so does tucayo
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
sounds good to me
 <meowth> 
this is fine
 <dia> 
ok
 <turb> 
Wiki Contributor Award 2017 (Mister Wu, Time Turner, Toa 95, Baby Luigi, LeftyGreenMario, Niiue, Shokora, Lindsay151, Mario jc, Tucayo, Glowsquid, A gossip-loving Toad, Alex95, TheFlameChomp, Toadette the Achiever, Wildgoosespeeder)
 <turb> 
thank god for double checking these awards
 <turb> 
anyway i assume we're all good with this so we can move on to c6
 <Lord_Bowser> 
ye
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
go for it
 <turb> 
Favorite ‘Shroom Team (Fake News, Fun Stuff, Palette Swap, Pipe Plaza, Critic Corner, Strategy Wing)
 <turb> 
here it is, c6, the pinnacle of discussion
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
brb introducing shroom team 7
 <Lord_Bowser> 
remove fake news /s
 <turb> 
goodbye c6
 <shoutmon> 
add the department of theology
 <turb> 
good idea
 <DragonFreak> 
Add dragonfreak's team
 <Lord_Bowser> 
add in the church of poochianity
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
add Smasher's Dial-Up Kong
 <dia> 
add poochy write in
 <Lord_Bowser> 
anyway just move on :p
 <turb> 
Favorite ‘Shroom Core Staff (MrConcreteDonkey,, Yoshi876, FunkyK38, Shoey, Palkia47, P_Y, Super Mario Bros., GBAToad, Superchao, Mr. Edo, 2257, Andymii, Tucayo, Stooben, Turboo, RandomYoshi, Anton, Meta Knight)
 <turb> 
i assume this is also something everyone is ok with
 <mcd> 
[02:16] Lord_Bowser remove fake news /s
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i am def. okay with this
 <mcd> 
:'(
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
we added anton and MK
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
and removed dippy
 <Lakituthequick> 
Add: Anton, Meta Knight
 <Lakituthequick> 
Remove: CrocodileDippy
 <Lord_Bowser> 
mcd you forget i write for fake news :p
 <Lakituthequick> 
darn it
 <mcd> 
yes and that only makes me sadder
 <mcd> 
that you would want it removed from the awards
 <Meta_Knight> 
im fine with this award
 <turb> 
so this next one was being discussed in the staff board i think?
 <turb> 
maybe it was one of the other writer awards
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i think C8-C10 are pretty close to finalize
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
enough that we can discuss them
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
and vote on C8's unsure
 <turb> 
ok
 <turb> 
Favorite Retired Writer (Gamefreak75, Walkazo, Freakworld, Superchao, Mr. Edo, Super Mario Bros., Packy, Stooben, Toadbert101, Baby Luigi, Dippy, Time Turner, [General Bob-omb, Coincollector, Chivi-chivik, Timmy])
 <turb> 
the []s are for unsure nominees
 <turb> 
they're the really ancient nominees
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
the main reason those four are up for debate, especially the first three, is - yeah
 <shoutmon> 
isnt general bob-omb that guy who plagiarised his sections
 <shoutmon> 
liek twice
 <turb> 
did he plagiarise them
 <Toadbert> 
its ok because people liked them
 <Gamefreak75> 
hes the guy who kept winning fun stuff
 <Gamefreak75> 
by like 40+ votes
 <shoutmon> 
he used fanart without permission
 <turb> 
oh
 <turb> 
he probably did that if he was the hiding koopa guy
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yeah he was hiding koopa
 <Gamefreak75> 
he only wrote hiding koopa afaik
 <turb> 
im fine with removing him regardless of what he did because no one has seen him in 30 years
 
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 <Gamefreak75> 
oh yeah that
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
coincollector was MK wii tips, chivi-chivik was cooking guide, timmy was brawl tactics
 <turb> 
also anton and shoey were removed because they unretired
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
and i'm personally fine with removing all four due to how long it's been
 <Meta_Knight> 
same here
 <turb> 
so
 <turb> 
remove all four? y - n - a
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
y
 <turb> 
i feel like it should be a package deal
 <Meta_Knight> 
y
 <turb> 
y
 <Gamefreak75> 
y
 <shoutmon> 
y
 <DragonFreak> 
Y
 <Lakituthequick> 
Added: Freakworld, Superchao, Mr. Edo, Super Mario Bros., Packy, Stooben, Toadbert101, Baby Luigi, Dippy, Time Turner
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <turb> 
if there are any huge objections to that speak now or forever hold your peace
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i object
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
(i tried to come up with an objection while objecting)
 <turb> 
forever more like whenever we next go over awards
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
(i failed)
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i object perch's objection
 <Lord_Bowser> 
y
 <turb> 
*cross examination music keeps playing*
 
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 <Shoey> 
what's the topic
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
community awards
 <turb> 
^
 <Meta_Knight> 
c8 retired writer
 <turb> 
c8
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
we're on the shroom writer awards atm
 <Lord_Bowser> 
we're discussing firing turb
 <turb> 
yeah
 <turb> 
also that
 <Meta_Knight> 
brb gonna get something to eat
 <turb> 
right now we're voting on removing the super old nominees from retired writer
 <Shoey> 
did we add nabber's presentation
 <turb> 
as a combo pack of 4
 <Shoey> 
I vote yes on everyone but general bob-omb
 <turb> 
General Bob-omb, Coincollector, Chivi-chivik, and Timmy
 
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 <Lord_Bowser> 
oh
 <Lord_Bowser> 
8-0-0
 <turb> 
idk i dont really want to make a specific exception for him
 <Shoey> 
I support keeping general bob-omb for the sole reason that he has the record for most sections of the month
 
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 <turb> 
at least when people are telling me he plagiarised his sections
 <Gamefreak75> 
im pretty sure he proxied those
 <Gamefreak75> 
or got someone to
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i don't feel that enough people these days know him
 <turb> 
#whoa
 <Gamefreak75> 
since he always won buy absurd amounts
 <Gamefreak75> 
by
 <Shoey> 
He did always win by like 50 votes
 <turb> 
also i think nabber's presentation is on
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
you know what would be interestng
 <turb> 
i haven't added the shit to c4 because it was a non-discussion shoe in
 <Shoey> 
I mean I don''t care that much either way and i'm fine with removing the other 3
 <turb> 
i jsut have to get everything with 6 votes or above
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
comparing the FS SOTM totals when he was and wasn't in the running
 <turb> 
yeah
 <turb> 
so far i think we can just confidently remove all 4 though
 <Lord_Bowser> 
move on then
 
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 <turb> 
anyway, one moment
 <Shoey> 
I just have a small oppose to removing genera bob omb
 <turb> 
gonna update the document and then move on
 <Meta_Knight> 
back
 <Lord_Bowser> 
{( |:-))
 <Lord_Bowser> 
wait oops lol
 <turb> 
Favorite Veteran Writer (FunkyK38, MrConcreteDonkey, Paper_Yoshi, Yoshi876, Andymii, Tucayo, Anton, Meta Knight, PowerKamek, The Pyro Guy, DragonFreak, YKMR3000, Shoey)
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
no changes to this imo
 <DragonFreak> 
Wow im a veteran?
 <Lakituthequick> 
No apparent changes
 <Meta_Knight> 
well
 <Meta_Knight> 
lb was considered for new writer but since he wrote in 2013
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
there's actually a bunch, ltq
 <Meta_Knight> 
he might be moved here
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
Added: Meta Knight, PowerKamek, The Pyro Guy, DragonFreak, YKMR3000, Shoey
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
Removed: Superchao, Freakworld, Toadbert101, Palkia47, Crocodile Dippy, Stooben
 <Shoey> 
are we going to apply the time turner principal to LB
 <turb> 
oh yeah
 <turb> 
i think i had to add him to that but i forgot
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yeah time turner should be on this
 <Meta_Knight> 
its okay
 <turb> 
i would say he counts as veteran
 <turb> 
should time turner be on this
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
wait no
 <turb> 
i thought he was on retired
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
he shouldn't, i mixed it up
 <turb> 
lb should be on this
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yeah lb
 <Lord_Bowser> 
hi
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
shoey fucked me over
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
dammit shoey
 <Meta_Knight> 
lb how do you like them pings
 <Lord_Bowser> 
double checking the 2013 new writer award
 <Shoey> 
I just asked a question that could be applies to future nominations
 <Lord_Bowser> 
apparently i got second place
 <Lord_Bowser> 
so it would be weird if i was on new writer again
 <Lord_Bowser> 
https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=26636.msg1209153#msg1209153 (for reference)
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
[s]yeah but that was when you were young and stupid[/s]
 
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 <Shoey> 
so for the future
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
also i had forgotten about pyro's comics that had literally fuck-all to do with the awards
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
why did you remind me
 <Shoey> 
people have written in the past will be considered veterans
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
correct
 <Meta_Knight> 
yes
 <Shoey> 
even if there is a time difference
 <Meta_Knight> 
yes
 <turb> 
yeah i think thats an appropriate way to handle it
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
correct
 <Shoey> 
ok just wanted to make sure we've got that set for next time
 <turb> 
i think we can move on to new writer now
 <turb> 
i need to get the stuff for tht
 <Lord_Bowser> 
so am i in here now or
 <Shoey> 
blocky
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yes
 <turb> 
Favorite New Writer (LudwigVon, Alex95, Mr Squid, Quizmelon, Luigi64DD)
 <Shoey> 
did you notice that pyro listed yoshi kong twice on that award
 <turb> 
its a bit of a small award
 <turb> 
probably because everyone had to be thrown off a cliff for being too old
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yes
 <turb> 
but this is all we can add
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
and if you look at the detailed results Yoshi K was there
 <Shoey> 
I know
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
but he was #buried
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
that's pyro for you
 <Shoey> 
he stole yoshi k's moment of glory
 <Lord_Bowser> 
6:35 PM <@Lord_Bowser> so am i in here now or
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
also no changes since there's nobody else
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yes lb: you're in veteran writer
 <Lord_Bowser> 
okay
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
also turb can i tell the story of what he did in 2014
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
with the comics he sent us
 <turb> 
sure
 <turb> 
i guess thats fine since this is a topic of nondiscussion anyway
 <turb> 
and i need to update the doc
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
he sent us his four part comics that had nothing to do with the award
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
and he told us
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
"hey can you put these in the right order and attach the right results to them, and send them back and tell me which order they go in"
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
he didn't even care enough to check the schedule for what he had to present when
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
spoiler alert that's why we stopped letting him take 4 slots in 2015
 
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 <turb> 
ok so
 <turb> 
c11
 <turb> 
the other half of the best images split
 <Shoey> 
classic pyro
 <turb> 
which i dont want to touch with a 10 foot pole but that's why we're here at the meeting
 <turb> 
so i can get over my fears
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
"[s]Kakyoin[/s] Turb who overcame his fears" is going to be my new main for the AC Fighting Game
 <turb> 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzbSuDhSsNA
 <turb> 
Lord Bowser's Inside Story (Lord Bowser), DragonFreak's Review Quest (DragonFreak), Anton's Half-Baked Reviews (Hypnotoad), Isaac Synergies (DragonFreak), Galactic Expedition (Meta Knight), Mario Kart: Wheel Tips Corner (Yoshi876), Party Trick! (Meta Knight), Guess Who! (Andymii), TV Tomorrow (Quizmelon), Mystery Images (LudwigVon), Find the Differences (Lord Bowser)
 <Meta_Knight> 
just as a reminder this is for sections that use images as a support
 <turb> 
yeah
 <Meta_Knight> 
for instance if i didnt use images in galactic expedition it would not be a good section
 <turb> 
re: concerns, someone was worried that it wasnt showing off talent
 <Meta_Knight> 
i was on the side that its for a different purpose
 <turb> 
but personally i dont feel this award is just "best screenshots" or anything like that
 <turb> 
yeah
 <Meta_Knight> 
and we are recognizing the artists in a category of their own
 <Meta_Knight> 
so it isnt undermining them
 <Meta_Knight> 
and also
 <Meta_Knight> 
its either this, a u2/u3 merge, or a new award
 <Meta_Knight> 
no new award has been proposed
 <turb> 
id personally prefer this
 <DragonFreak> 
I dont really see what the deal is with this award. Like what are the problems
 <turb> 
because its the most solid thing we have
 <Meta_Knight> 
and i would rather have this over a u2/u3 merge because of edo's concern
 <turb> 
we have no new award, and the u2/u3 merge is a bit concerning yeah
 <turb> 
id like to acknowledge community creations as much as the next guy but i dont want to force it
 <Lord_Bowser> 
and what is that concern, exactly
 <turb> 
anyway the problems are mostly just splitting up the sections and choosing appropriate nominees
 <Meta_Knight> 
im open to new ideas
 <turb> 
i think?
 <turb> 
like
 <Meta_Knight> 
the concern was that this isnt a sign of talent
 <turb> 
aside from that mention about talent/the "best screenshots" thing
 <turb> 
which idk it strikes me differently personally
 <turb> 
but i dont know if thats how everyone else feels
 <Lord_Bowser> 
Gabumon: you here
 <Gabumon> 
my concern with the merge was that it would create an apples and oranges situation
 <Lord_Bowser> 
oh lol
 <Meta_Knight> 
oh
 <Gabumon> 
comics and stories are consumed differently
 <Gabumon> 
comics are usually geared towards fast consumption and are easily digestible
 <DragonFreak> 
Well screenshotting can be hard, to try to capture exactly what you want at a good quality
 <Gabumon> 
stories require much more time commitment
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i have a hard time weighing in on that because stories don't require much time commitment for me
 <Meta_Knight> 
the concern is that comics would have a huge advantage over written fiction
 <Meta_Knight> 
because they're more accessible so more people read tem
 <Gabumon> 
as a result, with the internets general short attention span, people are more inclined towards comics
 <Meta_Knight> 
yeah
 <Gabumon> 
as they are easier to consume in a shorter amount of time
 <Gabumon> 
ergo, comics have a huge advantage in this award
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
then there's the other proble
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
which is that there aren't many comics or stories still active
 <turb> 
yeah like
 <turb> 
theres not really any nominee pool
 <turb> 
it would be
 <turb> 
dragon problem, for being significant
 <turb> 
oregon trail
 <turb> 
and uniju holiday theater
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
that to me is what really kills it
 <turb> 
so
 <turb> 
idk how much else there is to discuss here
 <turb> 
i can add what we have now as tentative nominees
 <Lord_Bowser> 
move on for now
 
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 <turb> 
and the split can be discussed and ironed out more in the staff board, and probably finalized next meeting
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yeah
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
might as well finish the last ones here
 <turb> 
Favorite Written ‘Shroom Section of the Past Year (DragonFreak's Review Quest (DragonFreak), Guess Who! (Andymii), The 'Shroom Report (Tucayo), Tip of the Month (FunkyK38), Anniversary Announcements (Lakituthequick), Obituaries (Yoshi876), Dear Anton (Anton))
 <turb> 
i need to see if
 <turb> 
this was also in the staff board
 <turb> 
i cant remember
 <Meta_Knight> 
yeah
 <Meta_Knight> 
hang on
 <Meta_Knight> 
Favorite ‘Shroom Written Section of the Past Year (DragonFreak's Review Quest (DragonFreak), Guess Who! (Andymii), The 'Shroom Report (Tucayo), Tip of the Month (FunkyK38), Anniversary Announcements (Lakituthequick), Obituaries (Yoshi876), Dear Anton (Anton), Half-Baked Reviews (Anton), Lord Bowser's Inside Story (Lord Bowser), Community Report (LudwigVon), Isaac Synergies (DragonFreak), Po
 <Meta_Knight> 
 <Meta_Knight> 
dex Power (Yoshi876), Galactic Expedition (Meta Knight)
 <turb> 
gr8
 <Meta_Knight> 
added: Half-Baked Reviews (Anton), Lord Bowser's Inside Story (Lord Bowser), Community Report (LudwigVon), Isaac Synergies (DragonFreak), Pokédex Power (Yoshi876), Galactic Expedition (Meta Knight),
 <Meta_Knight> 
removed: Crocodile Style Reviews (Crocodile Dippy), Mario's Boombox (Walkazo), 8-bit Amphitheater (Stooben), Crocodile Style Reviews (Crocodile Dippy), Mario's Boombox (Walkazo), 8-bit Amphitheater (Stooben), Location, Location (Time Turner), The Stoob Tube (Stooben), Pocket Handbook (Crocodile Dippy), Fightin' Footwear (Anton & Shoey)
 <Lord_Bowser> 
wait uh
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
hey, question
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i think you miscopied removed
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
not to be self-promoting
 <Lakituthequick> 
you removed 8-bit Amphitheater twie
 <Lakituthequick> 
nice
 
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 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
but couldn't we add Let's Play Showcase to this
 <Meta_Knight> 
oh yeah
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
since i wrote it in the past year
 <Meta_Knight> 
i forgot to do that
 <Meta_Knight> 
i waas in favor of adding it
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i feel unloved
 <turb> 
yeah you probably could
 
Meta_Knight pats perch
 <turb> 
also community report
 <Meta_Knight> 
yes
 <Lord_Bowser> 
these are all original sections right?
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
original sections?
 <Lakituthequick> 
(also there is a bracket missing at the end in the google doc)
 <Meta_Knight> 
what do you mean
 <Meta_Knight> 
@lb
 <Lord_Bowser> 
as in it wasn't on the paper before the writer submitted it
 <Lord_Bowser> 
for the first time*
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
no
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
some of these have been done by others
 <Lord_Bowser> 
oh okay
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
let's play showcase, anniversary annoucements, guess who
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
that's never been a requirement for this award though
 <Lord_Bowser> 
it's just a vast majority were originals so i assumed all were :p
 <turb> 
oh thanks for adding the stuff
 <turb> 
i think
 <turb> 
wait no let me copy this
 <turb> 
im getting confused now
 
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 <turb> 
what's on the box was also suggested as a thing
 <turb> 
idk how anyone feels about that
 
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 <Lord_Bowser> 
i wouldn't oppose
 <turb> 
i also don't know how anyone feels about possibly staying liek 5 minutes late just to wrap up community awards
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
abstain
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'd be okay with that
 <turb> 
add what's on the box? y - n -a
 <turb> 
vote now
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
we're aaaaalmost done
 <turb> 
on ur phones
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
a
 <turb> 
a
 <Lord_Bowser> 
dammit turb
 <Lord_Bowser> 
a
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
give me your phone number and i'll text you my vote
 <Lord_Bowser> 
me too
 <Meta_Knight> 
a
 <Lord_Bowser> 
0-0-4
 <shoutmon> 
a
 <Lord_Bowser> 
0-0-5
 <Lord_Bowser> 
what a contest
 <DragonFreak> 
Ok mine is 712
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
wow, nobody... nobody cares about this section do that
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
*do they
 <DragonFreak> 
229
 <turb> 
928 something
 <turb> 
thats my phone number
 <DragonFreak> 
Close
 <DragonFreak> 
Oh lol
 <Lakituthequick> 
my number ends in 654
 <Lakituthequick> 
nice to remember
 <Lord_Bowser> 
only df and mk have my number
 <turb> 
if no one gives a shit about what's on the box i guess we just
 <turb> 
shouldnt add it
 <Lord_Bowser> 
yeah idrc tbh
 <turb> 
anyway
 <Meta_Knight> 
i dont mind either way
 <turb> 
i was just suggesting it because y876 brought it up
 <turb> 
and apparently it wins sotms
 <Meta_Knight> 
an issue would be who to credit
 <Meta_Knight> 
because y876 just wrote one
 <turb> 
oh, yeah
 <Meta_Knight> 
but before him it was tpg
 <turb> 
it changed writers apparnelty
 <turb> 
idk
 <Meta_Knight> 
so which what does the box does he want
 <turb> 
i assume tpg since he did it most of the time
 <Meta_Knight> 
like im crediting pokedex power to y876 because he wrote more of it
 <turb> 
but he mentioned that both of them picked up sotms or something
 <Meta_Knight> 
even though i founded the section
 <turb> 
i dunno
 <turb> 
i guess htat uh
 <Meta_Knight> 
we'll have to ask him about it
 <turb> 
we dont have to worry about it if no one cares about what's on the box
 <turb> 
yeah good idea
 <turb> 
lodge a comment in the thread
 <Meta_Knight> 
we can eithe end the meeting or finish up c awards because there's only 2 awards
 <turb> 
and we'll revisit it
 
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 <Meta_Knight> 
yeah i will
 <turb> 
im gonna opt to finish it up
 <Meta_Knight> 
me too
 <Lord_Bowser> 
finish him
 <turb> 
Favorite ‘Shroom Special Issue (Issue XXX (30), Issue L (50), Issue 64 (Nintendo 64 theme), Issue LXXV (Gamefreak75 theme), Issue LXXXVIII (Mario Kart 8 theme), Awards Issue XC (90), Issue 100, Holiday Issue 105, Issue 107 (Zeldámon theme), Issue 111 (Walkazo Tribute), [Issue 123 (Wario)])
 <turb> 
idk if that last nominee is spoilers
 <Meta_Knight> 
i dont mind
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
we're going to annouce it tomorrow
 <Meta_Knight> 
the issue coomes out tomorrow
 <turb> 
but it's coming otu like right before or after polls or something
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
so who cares
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i knew about it
 <Meta_Knight> 
and im announcing here
 
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 <turb> 
wait shit
 <turb> 
is tomorrow 123
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
it's coming out on the exact same day as polls
 <turb> 
oh ok
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
no
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
tomorrow is 121
 <Lakituthequick> 
Added: Issue 111 (Walkazo Tribute)
 <Meta_Knight> 
yeah
 <turb> 
oh
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
but we're /announcing/ 123
 <turb> 
ok thank god
 <Meta_Knight> 
thats whhy its on unsure
 <turb> 
i was so confused for like 2 seconds
 <Meta_Knight> 
because if its on schedule
 <Meta_Knight> 
it should be on the same day as pollsa
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
just saying "hey we're gonna do wario"
 <Lord_Bowser> 
why not 120
 <Meta_Knight> 
and valid as an award
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
because 120 was march
 <Meta_Knight> 
but if its late
 <Meta_Knight> 
it wont be
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
we wanted to do summer
 <Meta_Knight> 
120 was a themed issue
 <Meta_Knight> 
not a special
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
anyhow, i want to believe in ourseves
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
have Hope
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
and add this
 <turb> 
i agree
 <Lord_Bowser> 
why not Despair
 <DragonFreak> 
123
 <DragonFreak> 
abc
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
because naegi is better
 <DragonFreak> 
123 yeah you and me
 <DragonFreak> 
I hope Desope
 <Lord_Bowser> 
(go ahead)
 <DragonFreak> 
or maybe Hopair?
 <Meta_Knight> 
this award is fine to me
 <Lord_Bowser> 
move on then
 <turb> 
'Shroom Person of the Year 2016-2017 (Yoshi876, Mr. Edo, Anton, FunkyK38, MrConcreteDonkey, Toadbert101, Tucayo, Andymii, 2257, Meta Knight, Superchao)
 <Meta_Knight> 
added: mk and perch
 <Meta_Knight> 
removed: Master Crash, Super Mario Bros., Crocodile Dippy, Palkia47, RandomYoshi, Stooben
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
pi was basically the only one who did things since the last awards cycle
 <turb> 
i assume we're all ok with this
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i wanna add tpg
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
and we had good reason for removing him
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
why?
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
that's not an outright no
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
but shroom person of the year needs strong reasoning
 <turb> 
^
 <Lord_Bowser> 
cooking guide got a lot of recognition via sotms (some consecutive) and he has a lot of work in other subteams such as fun stuff and palette swap
 <Lord_Bowser> 
plus his special section was very well written
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
mmmmm
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i can tell he has a lot of dedication for the paper
 <turb> 
well, we can just
 <turb> 
hold it to a vote
 <turb> 
add tpg to c14? y - n -a
 <Lord_Bowser> 
so he should get a nomination
 <Lord_Bowser> 
y
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'm honestly not sure if that's enough for me
 <shoutmon> 
a
 <Meta_Knight> 
a
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
a
 <Lakituthequick> 
a
 <turb> 
a
 <DragonFreak> 
a
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'll change my a to a more definite n
 <turb> 
i had to stop myself from linking the video again
 <Lord_Bowser> 
what warranted tb as a nominee
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
why did you stop yourself
 <turb> 
i dont want to kill the meme yet
 <turb> 
i assume tbs nomination came from a serious dedication to the paper and to the fake ads
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
wel, that's true, tb is basically only on there for being a really good writer
 <turb> 
since he was writing for ilke years
 <Lakituthequick> 
1-1-5
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
but if i had to pick
 <turb> 
and yeah
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'd rather remove tb than add tpg
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i'm not saying his ads were bad at all but to be completely fair he only did write that one section
 <Meta_Knight> 
i'd rather remove tb than add tpg
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i feel like being a really good writer shouldn't be the only determinant, and i'd be okay with pulling toadbert to stand by my point
 <Meta_Knight> 
if we added everyone that did a lot of sections and won a lot of sotm
 <Meta_Knight> 
this award would get clogged up fast
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
like, to me
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
this award feels like going above and beyond somehow
 <turb> 
^
 <Lord_Bowser> 
what makes you feel that tpg hasn't met that specifically
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yes, he's dedicated. yes, he writes a bunch of sections. but... besides a special section, isn't that basically /all/ he's done?
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
toadbert's the only other person on there whos contribution is "writes good stuff" and i just said i'd be willing to chop him
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i mean assuming we remove tb the rest of the nominees are all core staff
 <turb> 
i mean
 <turb> 
i understand the points
 <Lord_Bowser> 
and since tpg isn't core staff he doesn't exactly have the opportunity to do much
 <turb> 
idk i dont really have a strong preference on removing tb or adding tpg either way
 <Shoey> 
I think there's a place for really good writers on this list
 <turb> 
god
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i feel like we might need to come back to tpg
 <turb> 
i guess we shouldnt ffeel like we need to be anal about this
 <Shoey> 
I'm fine with keeping tb on there
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
when more of the committee is hee
 <turb> 
because this isn't lifetime communtiy achievement award
 <Meta_Knight> 
yeah
 <Meta_Knight> 
thats the next one
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
ehhhh
 <turb> 
we'll just revisit it later
 <turb> 
there's a topic about it in the shroom staff board
 <turb> 
you guys can post about him there, or i can
 <Lakituthequick> 
would be vote about removeing tb or do that another time
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
do that another time
 <turb> 
id say do it another time
 <Lakituthequick> 
ok
 <Lord_Bowser> 
turb permission to make a topic in the ac board regarding this
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
the vote about removing tb is entirely contingent on the tpg discussion
 <turb> 
sure
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i'll do it after then
 <turb> 
if this is something that needs to be discussed by the wholec ommittee at large
 <turb> 
which, it probably does
 <Lord_Bowser> 
move on to outstanding achievement award for now
 <Meta_Knight> 
we havent done anything with this one
 <Meta_Knight> 
we felt it would be best handled by the ac as a whole
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yeah we decided this one is AC-overall better
 <Lord_Bowser> 
oh okay
 <Meta_Knight> 
Outstanding Community Achievement Award (Porplemontage, Super Mario Bros., 2257, Walkazo, Gamefreak75, Turboo, Crocodile Dippy, Anton, Superchao, Smasher, Yoshi876, Stooben, RandomYoshi, Tucayo, MrConcreteDonkey)
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
well
 <turb> 
thanks for posting that, had to update a bit with c14
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
this is last year, correct?
 <turb> 
yeah
 <Meta_Knight> 
oh
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
unfortunately, remove walkazo
 <Meta_Knight> 
is there supposed to be a year on this
 <turb> 
i cant recall if we set a year on this one
 <turb> 
i believe it would be noted on the full list
 <Meta_Knight> 
i didnt see one
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
as well as smb, dippy, stooben, and i'd also say randomyoshi
 <turb> 
yeah its not noted there
 <Shoey> 
I think there should be a year on this
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'm pretty sure it's yearly
 <Shoey> 
or at least some sort of time limit
 <Lakituthequick> 
never seen a year on this
 <turb> 
yeah i thought it was yearly too
 <Meta_Knight> 
well its not officially
 <turb> 
but, idk what i have to back that up with
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
let me go look
 <Meta_Knight> 
if we want to make that change we can
 <meowth> 
i think it is yearly
 <turb> 
This award acknowledges the hard work and dedication of various members of the community. They all are unique in their experiences and what they’ve done, having volunteered their time in all parts of the community in a number of ways. It should be noted that many nominees have expansive lists forged over the years, and while this may be impressive, please consider recent achievements and...
 <turb> 
...their greater relative impact today.
 <turb> 
(This is not an exhaustive list of every position and achievement, just the most notable and relevant. For all ‘Shroom achievements, take a gander at the nomination explanations for The ‘Shroom Awards.)
 <turb> 
SO
 <turb> 
its not yearly
 <turb> 
it just says to take recent achievements into account
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
huh
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
well i still want to kick pi off the award
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
but i'm probably biased
 <turb> 
im not opposed to it
 <turb> 
it just feels weird kicking off walkazo
 <turb> 
she has no way to contribute anything more but i feel its appropriate that we acknowledge what she did
 <Lakituthequick> 
its not yearly yet so id keep Walkazo for now at least
 <turb> 
if you guys want to vote for kicking off pi that's fine
 <meowth> 
i'm iffy on removing walkazo and i'm ok with booting the people perch mentioned
 <turb> 
that's probably the only vote that id want to take tonight
 <Shoey> 
I'm in favor of kicking off walkazo if not this year then next year
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i think we've run enough overtime that we might as well just do that and wrap up
 <turb> 
yeah like
 <turb> 
im fine with smb/dippy/stooben kickoffs i guess but
 <turb> 
they're debatable enough that id rather just vote on pi and wrap up
 <turb> 
so
 <Shoey> 
like if you're kicking smb off
 <turb> 
remove pi from c15? y - n -a
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
y
 <DragonFreak> 
y
 <Meta_Knight> 
y
 <Lord_Bowser> 
y
 <Shoey> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <turb> 
y
 <Meta_Knight> 
we can make a thread for further discussion on other nominees as well
 <turb> 
^
 <turb> 
idk who wants to make the c15 topic
 <turb> 
i can if i remember to
 <DragonFreak> 
22 does
 <Lord_Bowser> 
7-0-0
 <turb> 
i need to finalize c4 in the community awards document still
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i'll make c14 as soon as the meeting closes
 <turb> 
well
 <turb> 
i guess weve gotten all the votes we can for this
 <turb> 
hes off
 <Lord_Bowser> 
bye pi
 <turb> 
and with that
 <turb> 
the meeting is over
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
bye pi
 <Lord_Bowser> 
wii did it
 <turb> 
thanks for attending and staying for like half an hour later
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yw
 <Lord_Bowser> 
yw
 <DragonFreak> 
yw
 <Lakituthequick> 
np
 <turb> 
if people weren't around for me directing
 <DragonFreak> 
np
 <turb> 
we did this every single meeting