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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
1 minute hype
 <NEXandGBX> 
soon
 <Gamefreak75> 
(tm)
 <GBAToad> 
hello its jeff from the overwatch team
 <Stargazing> 
happy hype train
 <Lord_Bowser> 
h
 <turb> 
h
 <Lakituthequick> 
now to open my notes
 <turb> 
im here
  
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok guys it's time
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
welcome to the first AC meeting for 2018!
 <GBAToad> 
we survived a whole year
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if anyone is unfamiliar with the general process, how this usually goes is
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
whoever is running the meeting that day, whether me, turb, whoever else, will introduce the topics to go over for the day, and then run through that list
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
holding votes whenever necessary
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
discussion can happen relatively freely so long as it's focused and on-topic
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and official votes will only be started by whoever is running the meeting, i.e. me, turb, whoever is designated
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it's pretty simple and we get in the groove as we go on, so let's begin
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Introduction, which I'm doing now
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Introduce large topics of discussion
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Open the floor for anyone else to suggest large and important topics
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Discuss these as necessary
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Begin M1-30
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and that's our plan for the day!
 <Lord_Bowser> 
sounds gucci
 <GBAToad> 
gound succi
 <Shoey> 
aye captain
 <Stargazing> 
plan sounds good o7
 <NEXandGBX> 
lets-a-go
 <Lakituthequick> 
*insert generic response*
 <Baby_Luigi> 
okay
 <Toadbert> 
you forgot the people shitposting the whole time inbetween the work being done
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so one thing I would like to do this year would be to create internal definitions of every award we have, since an issue that inevitably crops up each year for a few awards is "what is this award even for?"
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
this isn't something we have to do as we churn through each award, but I will likely start a topic on the forum to compile a list for all of them and their wording
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
some are pretty simple, like M3 Favorite Mario Platformer is just like
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Mario games
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
that are also platformers
 <GBAToad> 
favourite classic game LuL
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but there are definitely more nuanced ones like F11 Biggest Missed Opportunity that always finds a way to get muddled up every year
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so I'd like to get these set, and this is probably something we should've done a long time ago, but we didn't, so !
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
GBAToad brings me to my next one
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1U-xcZsE8arNBgiYbeb3N4GVsobczDv6YpI8kYp3qYL8/edit
 <Stargazing> 
we could probably have generic copy-paste ones for awards that are straightforward, and actually "hey what is this" for awards that don't
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
M29 Favorite Classic Game (N64/GBC and older) and M30 Favorite Modern Game (GCN/GBA and newer)
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we are shifting the generations down because time is passing and we're old
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
this isn't anything debatable and will be happening
 <Shoey> 
god the gamecube is retro now
 <Shoey> 
that's gross
 <GBAToad> 
the wii is 12 years old now but will definitely remain modern until the switch dies
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so M29 would be GCN/GBA and older
 <GBAToad> 
whats a wii u
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and M30 will be Wii/DS and newer
 <Shoey> 
yeah it's been 3 systems since the gamecube
 <turb> 
yeah i was thinking about that re: wii/ds
 <turb> 
but honestly wii u has like 2 games
 <Stargazing> 
i mean it's understandable, if there are notable people in the community who've never had a gamecube
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we'll get to what nominees are affected by this as we cycle through M1-30, but just a heads up that this is something
 <GBAToad> 
there are people younger than the gamecube star
 <turb> 
:thinking:
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it will mean thing such as movie consistent M30 winner TTYD into M29
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
things*
 <Stargazing> 
i'm younger than the gamecube
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
moving*
 <turb> 
the year is 2033
 <Shoey> 
star your presence makes me feel old than
 <turb> 
the gamecube is old enough to be someone's father
 <GBAToad> 
baby driver for M29
 <turb> 
also yeah that's something to think about
 <turb> 
it has to be done regardless
 <turb> 
even if it causes a vote shift
 <Shoey> 
well mario odyssey is gonna slaughter anyways
 <GBAToad> 
i think the difficulty now will be
 <turb> 
it's unrealistic to consider the gamecube modern if the switch is up and running
 <GBAToad> 
which games get cut from m29
 <turb> 
yeah
 <GBAToad> 
to make room for the new ones
 <Shoey> 
probably the ones with super low vote totals gba
 <turb> 
we'll probably have to judge from vote totals
 <GBAToad> 
thats a bridge two or three meetings away though
 <GBAToad> 
and yeah
 <Meta_Knight> 
im here but also busy if anything im needed for anything you can ping me and ill try to look at this when i can
 <GBAToad> 
pretty easy to figure out
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so next thing that's big is a very large topic that may have multiple ways of approaching it
 <Baby_Luigi> 
i feel like the gamecube is like in "purgatory"
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=39682.msg1994132#msg1994132
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
the inclusion of Odyssey in our awards
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
there's quite a few legitimate award options to create, but to do that we need to make room for them
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
here's our results documents
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15ZwYpnz5khaQGPM7UFzDVblQ1qgzqSUoeatzKoo_5jY/edit#gid=0
 <Stargazing> 
we can ditch favourite kong
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GIF10_cLO_eAtyGA-PS0NssN1HGs_6uxk0-odtkdH4w/edit#gid=0
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RsocZ6s-whVG__FrTqGK_CVeDPOJiAVeYBB-7aat2oo/edit#heading=h.culgiaqu7gjr
 <GBAToad> 
I had a take on this and it was regarding how we handled Mario Maker which was to make one-off awards again
 <Shoey> 
can't believe you're away my legacy star
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
awards that I've noticed to have very repetitive results are
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
-M23 Favorite DK Character -M24 Favorite Wario Character -F12 Worst Game Objective
 <Shoey> 
gonna take*
 <Baby_Luigi> 
with dk:tf coming to the switch, i don't think we should ditch favorite kong just yet
 <turb> 
when dk:tf was first released the results stayed stagnant though
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Edo has also suggested to me M10 Favorite Partner Developer
 <GBAToad> 
im all in for having things like favourite costume or favourite capture but at the same time we really set a nice standard for year-round awards last year
 <GBAToad> 
ones that arent affected by recent releases
 <GBAToad> 
and ones that wont be deleted the next year
 <Shoey> 
that's true gba
 <Baby_Luigi> 
If we had to pick one, I'd probably vote for Favorite Wario Character
 <NEXandGBX> 
yeah
 <Shoey> 
but i think favorite capture and costume should at least be considered
 <NEXandGBX> 
i'd say favorite kingdom would fit into favorite 3d level
 <GBAToad> 
so maybe there's a way we can introduce these one off awards without necessarily cutting stuff out and replacing numbers again
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Favorite costume is a bit tricky to do
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it's not just one, I'm expecting to remove all 4
 <Shoey> 
since mario odyssey was so popular
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I won't have problems with removing all four
 <NEXandGBX> 
capture and costume are definitely the best of the odyssey rewards
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if we remove M23 we're also going to remove M24 and vice versa because they're basically the same award with the same problem
 <Shoey> 
I mean favorite costume will be won by mario 64 costume
 <Stargazing> 
yeah, we should have at least 1 odyssey award, and per everyone else i'm for capture and costume
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so for the first vote I just want to confirm that decision, so let me type that out
 <Shoey> 
I think the problem with m23 and m24 is that we included donkey and wario on them
 <__2257> 
i dont
 <GBAToad> 
idk man i like the character awards because it breaks it up from being Just Mario
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I'm a bit iffy on costume because of all the combinations you can do, inclduing mismatched ones that can look good together
 <GBAToad> 
but thats just me
 <__2257> 
i argue this every year
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Remove M23 Favorite DK Character and M24 Favorite Wario Character? (y/n/a)
 <Shoey> 
I'd rather we try and make new awards about those serries
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
y
 <GBAToad> 
n
 <Baby_Luigi> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
feel free to continue discussion on this as the vote goes on
 <__2257> 
theres nothing wrong with having first place be guaranteed if the lower results are interesting
 <NEXandGBX> 
hmm
 <__2257> 
and removing a nominee for doing too well is silly
 
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
my reasoning for wanting these removed is that the results of these two awards are literally the same every year since they've been made
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <__2257> 
yeah i know
 <Shoey> 
I'm gonna go with y
 <GBAToad> 
we could... combine them......
 <__2257> 
and i agree
 <Stargazing> 
a
 <GBAToad> 
favourite non-mario character.......
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it's become free points for the GTR and I'd rather we make room for awards that are fresh
 <Lord_Bowser> 
a
 <Shoey> 
but i'd like them to be replaced by awards from those series
 <smasher> 
my phones internet will be stable
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah, keep in mind that their removal isn't tied to immediate replacement by Odyssey awards
 <__2257> 
i just dont want anyone to make the argument that donkey kong and wario are invalid nominees on these awards
 <smasher> 
for the next hour and forty three minutes
 <smasher> 
as long as i believe
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
just that they're no longer good awards to keep around
 <NEXandGBX> 
i would say favorite microgame but idk that seems way too minor
 <smasher> 
what are we on
 <Shoey> 
we're killing kong and wario
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
smasher: Vote: Remove M23 Favorite DK Character and M24 Favorite Wario Character? (y/n/a)
 <GBAToad> 
i could do favourite microgame
 <GBAToad> 
easily
 <GBAToad> 
because of warioware gold
 <Shoey> 
microgame would be good
 <Shoey> 
you could try wario levels
 <Shoey> 
or wario bosses
 <GBAToad> 
no wario land stays in its pit of irrelevancy as decreed by john nintendo
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
4/1/2
 <turb> 
sorry
 <smasher> 
i see the reasons for killing them but im still kind of iffy on it so a
 <Shoey> 
but microgame would probably be the strongest
 <turb> 
had to get up for a moment
 <turb> 
y
 <Meta_Knight> 
y
 <Shoey> 
well tbf gba
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
warioware gold doesn't come out until well after our polls go up so they're not for consideration at all this year for us
 <smasher> 
6-1-3
 <GBAToad> 
i know anton
 <smasher> 
i guess
 <NEXandGBX> 
y
 <Shoey> 
nobody buys wario land games
 <Shoey> 
except me
 <GBAToad> 
but thats where warioware gold becomes relevant because its got all the popular microgames in it
 <GBAToad> 
and we can easily make a favourite microgame award from that
 <GBAToad> 
switching to y btw
 <NEXandGBX> 
well we do only have 2 wario levels in favorite 2d level
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i could see that yeah
 <Baby_Luigi> 
have we even done a mario party thing when top 100 came out?
 <turb> 
I do like the idea of having different wario and dk awards
 <NEXandGBX> 
and one dkc level
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i'm hype for is
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
2019 goals
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it*
 <Shoey> 
I think we have worst minigame baby luigi
 <GBAToad> 
i still dont want awards that will take numbers and be replaced the year after honesty
 <Shoey> 
which has one of the best minigames on it
 <GBAToad> 
ly
 <turb> 
I think a favorite microgame award could still be relevant this year even without the compilation, but we might have a harder time picking and choosing nominees without that compilation
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
me neither GBAToad
 <turb> 
yeah
 <smasher> 
i agree with turb
 <smasher> 
and gba
 <Baby_Luigi> 
for favorite microgame award, is it fair including boss stages with regular microgames?
 <GBAToad> 
id say so
 <Shoey> 
I don't want us to be in constant replace mode either
 <smasher> 
yeah
 <Shoey> 
unless we get lucky
 <GBAToad> 
theres only a handful of boss microgames that are actually good
 <Shoey> 
and shit just stays hot
 <GBAToad> 
and theyre usually on par with the rest of the microgames
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so M23 and M24 are wiped clean, let me go reflect that on our sheet now
 <Shoey> 
I don't have any experience with microgames
 <GBAToad> 
rest in pepperoni
 <NEXandGBX> 
o7
 <GBAToad> 
i do agree though
 <Baby_Luigi> 
i had stuff like global warming and the one inside the nose cavern in mind
 <smasher> 
rest in peace
 <GBAToad> 
we need to accommodate the wario land series somehow
 <Baby_Luigi> 
those were the most memorable microgames to me
 <GBAToad> 
even though its like faded into irrelevancy
 <Shoey> 
wario land is great
 <smasher> 
i love microgames but it will better when gold happens
 <Baby_Luigi> 
have we ever had favorite wario transformation
 <Lakituthequick> 
tfw you copied M1-19 for your AA notes and all changes happened in 23+
 <turb> 
i miss wario land
 <Shoey> 
best wario power up
 <Shoey> 
done
 <Shoey> 
the winner is ball of string wario
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so
 <GBAToad> 
i mean the main issue here is
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I'd pick Wario on Fire
 <smasher> 
did i miss anything important before this
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
the other one I brought up was F12 Worst Game Objective
 <GBAToad> 
wario land hasnt had a game for 10 years
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
also because of repetitive results
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Which results keeps winning?
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
F2 Worst 2D Level, F3 Worst 3D Level, and F4 Worst RPG Area are also repetitive, but I feel they are more important enough to be given another year or few
 <Shoey> 
I like worst game objective
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
1) Completing Every Level with Every Character (SM3DW) — 528 — 25.45% 2) One Million Coins (NSMB2) — 367 — 17.69% 3) Blue Coins (SMS) — 178 — 8.58%
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
is every year
 <Shoey> 
I think the award itself gives the category variety
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it's a good concept for an award but I really don't like stagnant results
 <Shoey> 
I don't eithe
 <Shoey> 
r
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we don't have to nuke it now but I would like for replacement ideas to be thought of
 <turb> 
its just upsetting because every nominee is valid and its a good concept
 <Lakituthequick> 
maybe there is a bad objective in odyssey that could be added?
 <turb> 
lets blame nintendo for making really shit objectives in 3dw and nsmb2
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Oh yeah
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Jump Rope Challenge
 <turb> 
jumprope
 <turb> 
solved
 <Baby_Luigi> 
And Volleyball
 <Shoey> 
i'd support based on what are ideas for replacement
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Volleyball is the worst one
 <Lakituthequick> 
that sorta stuff yeah
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
new nominees could freshen it up too, yeah
 <Stargazing> 
this one i'm less inclined to get rid of because i do enjoy this poll
 <smasher> 
i just tried jump rope today
 <GBAToad> 
yeah theres new stuff in odyssey and aces that could be added
 <smasher> 
murder
 <Lord_Bowser> 
jumprope and volleyball are shoe-ins
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so I guess the official statement on F12 right now is "think about it"
 <GBAToad> 
and mario kart 8 deluxe having redundant rewards
 <GBAToad> 
like
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Volleyball is worse than jump rope because volleyball is fucking tedious
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i dont recall a single person liking them
 <Lord_Bowser> 
oh
 <GBAToad> 
you get nothing from clearing the whole grand prix mode
 <Lord_Bowser> 
bounding
 <Lord_Bowser> 
bounding too
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
edo are you here
 <turb> 
i like bounding......
 <Stargazing> 
i don't think he is
 <__2257> 
could bounding be on the mini game one?
 <Lord_Bowser> 
r u ok turb
 <__2257> 
since its actually like 4 objectives
 <Shoey> 
is bounding the snow level minigame
 <turb> 
its fun
 <__2257> 
i hate it
 <GBAToad> 
Glitching Balloons Into Inaccessible Places
 <Shoey> 
because if it is bounding was amazing
 <GBAToad> 
: (
 
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 <Shoey> 
that's not an objective
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Oh don't remind me of asshole players glitching balloons into clip glitches in Balloon World
 <__2257> 
yes bounding is the snow minigame
 <GBAToad> 
worst mechanic
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok, well, M10 Favorite Partner Developer being replaced is Edo's suggestion, so I'd prefer if he were here to articulate why because I don't have the full knowledge of it
 <GBAToad> 
but thats a different award
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so I'll skip that for now, but just know that it's a thing
 <smasher> 
it is known
 <GBAToad> 
wheres the doc for the awards i could only find the 2017 results
 <Lakituthequick> 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1U-xcZsE8arNBgiYbeb3N4GVsobczDv6YpI8kYp3qYL8/edit
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
the reasoning was something like how even with the way we've added the games each developer made, it still was a bit obtuse
  
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
full list of important links are here https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=39590.0
 <Shoey> 
we could try trimming the fat
 <smasher> 
number of meetings survived:h
 <Shoey> 
like why is the dr. mario developer on there
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
because people voted for it
 <__2257> 
i remember he said hes always tempted to vote for rareware, but because of banjo kazooie, which is irrelevant
 <smasher> 
i presented this award last year
 <__2257> 
or something like that
 <smasher> 
everything i touch DIES
 <Lord_Bowser> 
who, edo?
 <__2257> 
yeah
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
7 people voted for it actually LOL
 <turb> 
partner developer honestly does kind of feel like a filler award
 <__2257> 
that was one of his arguments against the award
 <smasher> 
i voted for it for donkey kong
 <smasher> 
its almost as good as banjo
 <Shoey> 
fuck those 7 people anton
 <__2257> 
id definitely be in favor of killing this if we've got something better
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah, per 22
 <GBAToad> 
partner developer can be killed even if edo doesnt have his reasoning here atm
 <Shoey> 
I agree with 22
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i'm not gonna set a vote to nuke it now, but
 <Stargazing> 
for now we should leave it until we find something
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it's a potential 3rd/4th slot for new awards
 <smasher> 
i get the reasoning though its not a great award and i have no reason to want to keep it
 <Gamefreak75> 
i voted hal for kirby
 <Gamefreak75> 
when it was still on there
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i voted hal for pokemon snap
 <Shoey> 
that's a good mario game
 <Stargazing> 
i think i go for alphadream every year for m&l
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so where does this leave us now
 <GBAToad> 
i vote intsys
 <smasher> 
i voted hal when it was on there too but that was for the actual nominee
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
2 empty award slots, 1 almost empty, 1 fail award with redemption possibilities
 <smasher> 
(and kirby)
 <GBAToad> 
Oh yeah
 <GBAToad> 
favourite DLC has been on my mind too
 <GBAToad> 
have we had any new dlc for mario games other than the luigi balloon thing
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
no
 <smasher> 
not that i know of
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
only game updates that aren't technically dlc
 <Lakituthequick> 
luigi's baloons was an update
 <smasher> 
and even then isnt that an update
 <GBAToad> 
yeah its not even a dlc
 <Shoey> 
we could kill that award if we wanted
 <smasher> 
it doesnt count
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Mario + Rabbids...?
 <Baby_Luigi> 
When is that DLC coming out?
 <GBAToad> 
I'd be in favour of repurposing it to include updates such as that
 <GBAToad> 
but that was already
 <GBAToad> 
like
 <GBAToad> 
the biggest discussion we had last year
 <Lakituthequick> 
which reminds us that DLC is one of those awards where a good definition was needed
 <GBAToad> 
the definition of DLC
 <GBAToad> 
yeah
 <Stargazing> 
i think that award is fine for now but i might be biased bc i presented it last year lol
 <Shoey> 
what would you rename it gba
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah, I'm up for repurposing it
 
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 <Shoey> 
would you keep the same name
 <GBAToad> 
favourite uhhhhhhhhhh
 <__2257> 
we could call it expansion content
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Post-release content?
 <Lord_Bowser> 
favorite extra content?
 <__2257> 
and include the e reader LOL
 <Lord_Bowser> 
or those
 <GBAToad> 
Expansion Pak
 <Stargazing> 
yea, post release content
 <GBAToad> 
:dong:
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
how strongly do people feel about making this decision now
 <smasher> 
im ok with repurposing it at this point
 <GBAToad> 
expand awards categories
 <Lakituthequick> 
anything with expand will give the presenter free game with dk memes
 <__2257> 
create new dlc by extending it into the past
 <GBAToad> 
its our dk award
 <GBAToad> 
: ^ )
 <smasher> 
ill present it and include no memes to spare us
 <NEXandGBX> 
well my laptop crashed so
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so what we can do is
 <NEXandGBX> 
did anything important happen while i was away
 <Lakituthequick> 
i wouldn't mind deciding something now
 <NEXandGBX> 
lmao
 <GBAToad> 
i mean is it possible to put it on a
 <GBAToad> 
"do this later" list
 <GBAToad> 
as in repurpose it
 <Shoey> 
I can't believe we never included that smb2 on the dlc award
 <smasher> 
were banning you
 <turb> 
im fine with shelving it until like
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I can create a forum topic to further discuss this in more detail, re: definition and new nominees
 <smasher> 
were discussing what to do with dlc atm
 <turb> 
yeah a forum topic would be fine
 <Shoey> 
smb2 sequel*
 <Stargazing> 
yeah i'm fine with saving this for a future meeting or a topic
 <GBAToad> 
same
 <Lord_Bowser> 
per
 <NEXandGBX> 
^
 <smasher> 
sure
 <Lakituthequick> 
also per that
 <Shoey> 
make a thread
 <GBAToad> 
but yeah thats what i wanted to talk about re: Dlc award
 <GBAToad> 
since i just noticed it was there
 <Gamefreak75> 
ya
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
gr8, i've got that noted down
 <Lakituthequick> 
this thread's gonna be
 <Lakituthequick> 
feature length :dk:
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
good one
 <GBAToad> 
:dk2:
 <NEXandGBX> 
:diddy:
 <smasher> 
:barkley:
 <Shoey> 
I actually have just a general question
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so uhhhhhh 2 more vague general things before I move on from my notes
 <Shoey> 
are we gonna do anything with the mario movie?
 
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 <__2257> 
add it to favorite upcoming game
 <GBAToad> 
https://i.imgur.com/L6cwtmL.jpg
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
when it comes out, probably
 <__2257> 
(not really)
 <Baby_Luigi> 
We don't know anything about it other than it exists and Ilumination is making it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=39682.0
 <smasher> 
favorite upcoming game: THE MOVIE
 <Stargazing> 
we don't have sufficient information
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we need to start refining which awards we want
 <GBAToad> 
the movie sounds like a 2019 issue
 <GBAToad> 
and honestly
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
this can happen more in this topic but _
 <GBAToad> 
that would fall under favourite voice actor
 <GBAToad> 
if anything
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but we've got 2 empty award slots, that are conveniently numbered next to each other, that we can make readily available for these
 <GBAToad> 
like thats where we've agreed to acknowledge all the VAs and stuff from the live action movie and tv shows
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
should there be two awards that come out of this
 <GBAToad> 
and seems to be our go to for the non-games consumable media
 <Shoey> 
i'm up for costumes and captures
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but checking out https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=39682.msg1994578#msg1994578
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
costumes and captures are things we can't merge into other awards, yeah
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so I'm up for exploring those
 <Lakituthequick> 
capture could potentially overlap with species
 <Shoey> 
like we could always have those two as awards this year
 <turb> 
capture is different enough from species imo
 <Shoey> 
is a taxi cap a species now ltq
 <Stargazing> 
yeah i like costume and capture as awards
 <turb> 
theres stuff on species that is uncapturable
 <__2257> 
i think so too
 <turb> 
and stuff on capture that isnt a spieces
 <__2257> 
capture is like
 <mcd> 
yeah i think capture is more what you can do with it
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Capture you can actually control them in the platformer enviornment
 <__2257> 
more about whats the most fun to play
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i feel like costumes would be tough to narrow down cause the full costume isnt actually named
 <__2257> 
than what you just think is a cool character design or whatever
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Also gives us an excuse to draw Pokio
 <GBAToad> 
i thought it was LB
 <Lord_Bowser> 
the hat and shirt are but not the set
 <Shoey> 
we'd just do Costume_Mario
 <Baby_Luigi> 
That's exactly what I was thinking PLUS some people like using non-fitting costumes
 <Shoey> 
or you could just do
 <Shoey> 
Cowboy
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Like LGM like using dress Mario with the sunhat
 <mcd> 
best costume theme?
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Because it does look nice
 
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 <__2257> 
my favorite costume doesnt even have an associated hat
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
for the most part the hat+suit names are similar
 <GBAToad> 
cant wait for that datamined 8-bit mario costume
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but what we can do is generate a nomination list for this award to see how it looks
 <Lord_Bowser> 
yeah there are some standalone shirts that look good
 <__2257> 
or an 8 bit version
 <Lord_Bowser> 
skeleton suit
 <__2257> 
im so oppressed
 <Gamefreak75> 
skeleton is the only acceptble answer
 <Baby_Luigi> 
No Dress is
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but the other things
 <Lord_Bowser> 
the boxers dont come with a hat
 <Shoey> 
we really can't factor in differing combinations
 <GBAToad> 
we'd have to come up with non-official names and then vote on which ones are the most universally liked
 <GBAToad> 
and yeah no different combinations
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Supporting Character, Species, Broodals, Bosses, Items, and Kingdoms
 <smasher> 
i just thought of costumes and captures today
 <GBAToad> 
also are they really costumes
 <Lord_Bowser> 
favorite costume honestly doesnt sound like itd reflect peoples opinions very accurately
 <GBAToad> 
i thought they were called Outfits in-game
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
all can fit into other awards should we make heavy concessions on odyssey inclusion
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i feel thered be a fuckton of write-ins
 <mcd> 
the thing that worries me about favourite outfit is
 <mcd> 
would it be based on anything other than just appearance
 <turb> 
some of the outfits do shit in-game
 <Shoey> 
I mean we could ditch favorite costume
 <Shoey> 
and plug in favorite dk level
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
that is an option, yeah
 <mcd> 
i still feel like some of the other possible options would have more depth
 <turb> 
I think capture is better than costume
 <Shoey> 
or favorite microgame
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Same here
 <Lord_Bowser> 
favorite costume sounds like a good idea on paper but just doesnt seem like a good award cause too many options
 <__2257> 
do any of them do anything other than unlock some rooms or make an npc give you a moon
 <Snack> 
wait, is there a serious proposal for a favorite broodal award
 <turb> 
and theres also other options for odyssey awards yeah
 
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 <turb> 
not afaik
 <turb> 
they make uh
 <turb> 
luigi react to you
 <turb> 
in certain ways?
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
no snack, but it's just like
 <turb> 
and also bowser
 <Shoey> 
if you're gonna do an odyssey award ya gotta do capture
 <__2257> 
favorite broodal wouldnt even work would it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
new shit from that game to take note of
 <Snack> 
thank god
 <__2257> 
not enoguh nominees
 <GBAToad> 
i have an issue with favourite outfit intrinsically in that it will probably be deleted next year
 <Shoey> 
so we're gonna add the hot broodal to best boss right?
 <GBAToad> 
unless we get new costumes
 <Baby_Luigi> 
you mean madame broode
 <GBAToad> 
which have been confirmed to exist
 <__2257> 
all the broodals were shit bosses honestly
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so what we'll do is
 <Shoey> 
I mean favorite capture will probably be deleted next year gba
 <__2257> 
their big robot thing was pretty good though
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
once again, forum this lol
 <Baby_Luigi> 
pretty much all bosses in odyssey aren't that good
 <GBAToad> 
favourite capture isnt going to change a lot
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'll likely create another new topic to incubate new award ideas
 <GBAToad> 
like its pretty obvious they arent adding new worlds in just yet
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and curtail the current odyssey topic into that
 <__2257> 
although smg already did "a boss you mount" better
 <Shoey> 
ruined kingdom expansion when
 <GBAToad> 
if we did awards like this i'd be in favour of idk
 <GBAToad> 
lumping them into a special odyssey category
 <GBAToad> 
like mini awards
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
in that new topic I'll make after the meeting, you guys can lob in your award ideas and nominees and we'll see what turns up
 <GBAToad> 
or some shit
 <GBAToad> 
but that sounds pretty high maintenance
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
that sounds like chaos
 <Baby_Luigi> 
i would suggest favorite song w/ lyrics but...there's only two songs with lyrics in the game and lyrical mario music doesn't exist much else where
 <Baby_Luigi> 
and too few options
 <__2257> 
medamayaki
 
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 <GBAToad> 
yes
 <GBAToad> 
YES
 <Lord_Bowser> 
phantom of the bwahpera
 <__2257> 
thats the only other one i can think of (that has a name)
 <Lord_Bowser> 
apparently thats good
 <__2257> 
oh yeah that too
 <Stargazing> 
do the mario
 <__2257> 
and the dk rap
 <GBAToad> 
do the mario
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so yeah i'll do that, a formal "New Award Ideas" topic that I'll redirect this odyssey one into
 <GBAToad> 
dk rap
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i'll write that in my notes and move on
 <__2257> 
i guess that makes enough to actually do that
 <NEXandGBX> 
ok i really should just get my laptop replaced soon
 <NEXandGBX> 
anyway what are we on now
 <Lakituthequick> 
so that's four songs with lyrics
 <GBAToad> 
favourite song would be cool
 <Lakituthequick> 
wow
 <__2257> 
6
 <Baby_Luigi> 
i don't know if we should add that mario hoops 3-on-3 sherbet land song on there
 <GBAToad> 
but honestly like
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so that final thing on my Big Topic list doesn't have to do with our awards list at all
 <GBAToad> 
we know that jump up superstar would win
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it has to do with Ltq
 <Shoey> 
oh we will baby luigi
 <__2257> 
the 2 in odyssey, medamayaki, phantom of the bwahpra, dk rap, do the mario
 <Lakituthequick> 
hi
 <GBAToad> 
theres more warioware ones
 <Lord_Bowser> 
whats medamayaki
 <GBAToad> 
ASHLEYS SONG
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Mona Pizza
 <mcd> 
body rock
 <Baby_Luigi> 
So it is possible
 <smasher> 
am i alive
 <turb> 
medamayaki is from wari oland 4
 <Shoey> 
we'll just fill it out with splatoon music gba
 <__2257> 
medamayaki is the theme of the first level -- yeah
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
in mine and turb's campaign https://www.mariowiki.com/The_%27Shroom_talk:Issue_128/Awards_Director_Election
 <GBAToad> 
dude add octo expansion to favourite dlc
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I know Jump Up Superstar would win but hey, it's an idea
 <Snack> 
if do the mario counts there’s a half dozen other cartoon themes
 <Lakituthequick> 
oh yeah, ashley's song
 <__2257> 
fun fact: its japanese name is in english
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
near the end it says "there are further plans in the works to create a new titled position for someone to be charged with helping maintain consistency, accuracy, and quality of information and documents. We currently have a candidate in mind, but would like to propose this idea to the Awards Committee first."
 <GBAToad> 
ltq seems like a perfect fit for this yeah
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
my proposal with this is to elevate Ltq to a position similar to Edo and 22's "Awards Staff Consultant" position
 <Shoey> 
I support
 <Stargazing> 
i'm down
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
since each year he tends to go above and beyond with fact-checking
 <NEXandGBX> 
yeah
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and I'd like to recognize that somehow
 <mcd> 
i'm good with that
 <Baby_Luigi> 
sure thing
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and just wanted to make sure the AC was on board with it
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i support
 <Lakituthequick> 
:3
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
the exact nature of this I guess would roll out as we go through the year and see what's necessary
 <GBAToad> 
let us all lift ltq up into the sky to be accepted by the bureaucratic gods as sacrifice
 <turb> 
amen
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but it'll likely be something akin to the "Ltq Seal of Approval" before we finalize major posts and stuff
 <__2257> 
cant he fly on his own though
 <GBAToad> 
jesus 22 its SYMBOLIC
 <Lakituthequick> 
...i'm definitely making an image of this seal at some point
 <Baby_Luigi> 
he has a stupid cloud
 <__2257> 
air lift ltq into the sky
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
the necessity of this position lies in things like
 <Lakituthequick> 
>stupid
 
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
there's an ENORMOUS amount of information turb and I have to parse and deal with
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and every now and then something silly and embarrassing slips through the cracks
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
such as that one nominee that turned into 2 somehow
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
what was it
 <Lakituthequick> 
oh that colon
 <Lakituthequick> 
that turned into an comma
 <Lakituthequick> 
somehow
 <GBAToad> 
Super Mario Advance: Super Mario Bros 2
 <GBAToad> 
or sth
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
super mario 4 and the e-card thing
 <__2257> 
i hope that wasnt it gba
 <__2257> 
the title of that game doesnt even HAVE a colon
 <__2257> 
its just super mario advance
 <mcd> 
that is to be fair at least mostly nintendo's fault
 
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
"Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3 e-Cards"
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
was split into two nominees
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so
 <__2257> 
yeah that series has fucking dumb titles
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'd like to avoid silly mistakes like that
 <__2257> 
it actually annoys me
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and I haven't seen anyone protest in disgust so I'll write this in my notes as something to integrate
 <turb> 
oh yeah the e-cards thing lol
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I hate looking up Super Mario Advance 3: Yoshi's Island in websites
 
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 <turb> 
there's also typos and merged votes that slip through
 <turb> 
unmerged rather
 <Baby_Luigi> 
They either list the Super or the Yoshi's Island thing first
 <meowth> 
i havent believed hsrd enough
 <meowth> 
what did i miss
 <GBAToad> 
we finished the awards
 <GBAToad> 
and all the presentation
 <mcd> 
you lost every one
 <Lakituthequick> 
I am the new director
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
other than prizes with steam being garbage now, that's it for my enormous topics of discussion at least at this point in time
 <GBAToad> 
gayness
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I might take some cracks at an existential look at our token system and the future of it but
 <meowth> 
good i can rest now
 <__2257> 
super mario world 2: yoshi's island: super mario advance 3
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
not really anything we need to handle right now
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
just be sure to give me money to fund it
 <GBAToad> 
i need to discuss shroom tokens with meta knight re: killing game
 <GBAToad> 
and the convert between the two
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so, if anyone has a huge topic to bring up before we begin standard M1-30 stuff, now is the time
 <GBAToad> 
my take re: odyssey awards is that we dont have to make awards specifically based around odyssey like favourite capture/costume and just refresh other relevant categories
 <Lakituthequick> 
not a huge thing but it is handy to know for the AC
 <GBAToad> 
id be more in favour of favourite song than favourite capture for instance
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and ltq if you have any questions or concerns with what we've done to you, feel free to ask
 <Lakituthequick> 
:thumbup:
 <GBAToad> 
stuff that isnt based ENTIRELY around odyssey but has big candidates for odyssey winning anyway
 <GBAToad> 
such as song
 <GBAToad> 
and stuff we can carry over between years
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i brought up favorite npc if anyone wants to talk about that
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I like long-lasting awards
 <NEXandGBX> 
capture for favorite mechanic maybe
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
keep in mind that our minimum number of nominees is 5
 <Lord_Bowser> 
although idk if that has too much crossover with favorite species
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
soft-max is 15, hard-max is 18
 <NEXandGBX> 
if thats even a thing
 <GBAToad> 
capture is definitely going in favourite mechanic
 <Lakituthequick> 
so for Anniversary Announcements I'm doing a new thing this year
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Yeah I think it suits Odyssey fine because Odyssey really hasn't changed up Mairo gameplay that much, it was the polish and how well-done it was that had it praise
 <turb> 
hopefully capture doesn't fuck the award in the comign years
 <Lakituthequick> 
which is Committee Interviews
 <GBAToad> 
we just need to accommodate it properly
 <turb> 
but if it does then we'll deal with it then
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
individual new award ideas can go in the topic i'll make after the awards meeting
 <GBAToad> 
which is what we're about to do with the runthrough
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so it doesn't end up being a disjointed conversation here
 <GBAToad> 
so allons-y or whatever
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and we can refocus on hem late
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
r
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
t
 <Lakituthequick> 
basically I will hunt three-four members down every month and do short interviews with them
 <NEXandGBX> 
kingdoms can go in favorite 3d level, npcs in favorite species
 <meowth> 
give me tokens for attending an awards meeting on a phone in nowhere, texas
 <mcd> 
latert?
 <NEXandGBX> 
any odyssey boss fights we can fit in best boss fight?
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Lord of Lightning
 <Shoey> 
we're naming humans to realistic humans right
 <Lord_Bowser> 
mechawiggler
 <GBAToad> 
kingdoms are going to be tough to deal with but lets get to them as we can
 <Lord_Bowser> 
robobrood
 <turb> 
reminder that we survived Favorite Galaxy under ralph's direction
 <turb> 
anything is possible
 <NEXandGBX> 
good suggestions
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we can crank out specifics on these as we cycle through M1-30
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I really think the dragon from Odyssey is the best boss design in odyssey
 <mcd> 
🚲
 <GBAToad> 
🐲
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
any other giant topics we need to bring attention to now before we go into more detail?
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
can be anything re: scheduling, tournaments, etc.
 <GBAToad> 
giant topic: im pretty gay
 <Baby_Luigi> 
When do we discuss contests and tournaments?
 <turb> 
none from me
 <mcd> 
hope it doesn't dragon
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so we know to set aside time to discuss them
 <turb> 
contests and tournaments are usually in the later meetings, after awards discussion has been wrapped up
 <Shoey> 
is this topic just about your gayness gba
 <turb> 
but any time suggestions that need to be set aside are fine
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
tournament season is set to start June 1st but yeah they're usually done after awards are set
 <Shoey> 
or just our collective gayness
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
there's a rough schedule here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dGMmC0nvR9cA-DUZqwdsUCauayvXDI6-KMfA1JFKyR0/edit
 <GBAToad> 
collective gayness of the ac hivemind
 <NEXandGBX> 
better for it to dragon than to draggadon
 <Shoey> 
it's a lot
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
dates and topics may slightly alter but that's the general vibe
 <GBAToad> 
also i actually have to be part of the tourney discussion because i want to make sure mafia/kg is handled properly this year
 <GBAToad> 
and what to do re: awards mafia 7(?)
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
ffffff hi
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i managed to get called off for dinner right as the meeting started and made it back just now
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok i'll be sure to have Big Ticket games as a thing to touch back on sooner than later
 <GBAToad> 
but thats for later yeah
 <Snack> 
oh actually, on tournaments anton
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
do you need me to give input on anything since i just finished catching up
 <Snack> 
for technical reasons it might be better for us (I mean mainly uniju/tb but) to have more schedule flexability for minecraft games than last year
 <__2257> 
god minecraft
 <Snack> 
possibly holding it later in the summer like 2016
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I think most of what we settled on will become a forum topic tonight
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
also i'm not gonna be doing any mafia hosting this year whatever happens with that
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
@ blocky
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
so just putting that out there
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
ok
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and ok snack
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i want to make sure kg is hosted properly but
 <turb> 
ideally the update for minecraft is earlier than july/august
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i dont want to commit to hosting it yet tbh
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
as long as I'm kept up-to-date on scheduling we could work it out
 <Uniju> 
oh are we talking about minecraft
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if it has to flow into September we can make plans for how tokens will be done
 <turb> 
yeah
 
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 <turb> 
Toadbert:
 <Lord_Bowser> 
its such a pain in the ass to host honestly
 <Lord_Bowser> 
gba can confirm
 <NEXandGBX> 
nex finish your house
 <smasher> 
where are we now
 <Toadbert> 
heyo
 <smasher> 
im trying my best
 <Toadbert> 
and yeah
 <Toadbert> 
minecrafts a bit of a problem
 <smasher> 
are we talking about hosting tournaments
 <Toadbert> 
we cant program anything yet because theyre about to shovel out an update thats changing an indeterminate amount of command formatting
 <Toadbert> 
so we have nothing done so far
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah smasher, just big things right now
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
that sounds like they're doing that to bother specifically you
 <Lakituthequick> 
Lord_Bowser: you could try and reel in FWD
 <Uniju> 
they are
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
just like how steam's gift updates affected solely just us
 <Toadbert> 
weve been waiting for that update to do literally anything about the games actually
 <smasher> 
well i mentioned this before but i am interested in ruining my life by hosting kg but if someone else wants to they can
 <Toadbert> 
we havent discussed new ideas or figured out who the hells making new hub yet
 <Lord_Bowser> 
fwd could probably do it
 <smasher> 
cohosting kg
 <Snack> 
the gabe-jebs conspiracy against the awards
 <Stargazing> 
i'm still sad that i have to give up mk7 this year but you can't host it forever
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but yeah, you guys definitely have my clearance for whatever with minecraft games because of that
 <Lord_Bowser> 
tbh id rather host a splatoon tourney than kg rn
 <Lakituthequick> 
i'll be creating a topic on mario kart 8 eventually to poll intereset in wii u/switch versions
 <Stargazing> 
splatoon could be fun
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
there's enough people i imagine you could just
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
not host kg and let someone else do it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
a couple years back with mafia I think we had a thing where the tokens were implemented on the 2nd round of prize selection, so there's options
 <Toadbert> 
thats great
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yeah that was am... 5
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but if that's that on that, we can begin the awards gauntlet
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
and then there was amvi which was GOING to do that
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
and then just. didn't happen
 
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 <Shoey> 
good ole am 5
 <Gamefreak75> 
sorry got dinner and missed the past 30 min
 <turb> 
im ready
 <smasher> 
let me know what happens with kg plans later
 <Shoey> 
almost killed am
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
anyhow i'm ready for awards
 <Snack> 
does splatoon 2 have better functionality for tournaments than 1 did
 <NEXandGBX> 
save smasher 2018
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1U-xcZsE8arNBgiYbeb3N4GVsobczDv6YpI8kYp3qYL8/edit
 <Lakituthequick> 
you did reuse the assets for vi in 7 right
 <Gamefreak75> 
can someone catch me up to speed
 <smasher> 
i do want to do it
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
ltq: no
 <turb> 
we're starting awards proper gf
 <smasher> 
for now, awards
 <Gamefreak75> 
oh ok
 <turb> 
previous discussion was tournaments/a few axes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
everything in the red highlight is stuff pasted from last year that we have to work past
 <Snack> 
like wasn’t it near impossible to host one in splatoon 1
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i didn't feel right doing it without stooben's permission and i hadn't talked to him in months
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so first up is:
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
M1 Best Sound Design (Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, Paper Mario, Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Super Mario 64, Super Mario World, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, Super Paper Mario, Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest, Super Mario 3D World, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze,
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Mario Kart 8/Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Mario & Luigi: Dream Team, Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam, Paper Mario: Color Splash)
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i feel like it's not even a question that we're adding odyssey
 <Lakituthequick> 
Add Super Mario Odyssey probably
 <Shoey> 
add odyseey
 <smasher> 
add odyssey yeah
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
what did the very bottom of the rankings look like
 <GBAToad> 
no dont add odyssey i cant think of any good music it has
 <Stargazing> 
i don't think we need to vote on odyssey
 <turb> 
do we need to remove something for odyssey
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
there's currently 16 nominees, over our 15 soft-max
 <Gamefreak75> 
tbh i only remember like
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we don't HAVE to but I would like to if possible
 <Gamefreak75> 
2 oddysey themes
 <Shoey> 
we can cut the bottom 2
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RsocZ6s-whVG__FrTqGK_CVeDPOJiAVeYBB-7aat2oo/edit#
 <Lakituthequick> 
14) Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island — 59 — 2.65%
 <Lakituthequick> 
15) Paper Mario — 40 — 1.80%
 <Lakituthequick> 
16) Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam — 29 — 1.30%
 <Lakituthequick> 
17) O. Super Mario Sunshine — 6 — 0.27%
 <Lakituthequick> 
18) O. Super Mario RPG — 4 — 0.18%
 <Lakituthequick> 
19) O. Donkey Kong 64 — 3 — 0.13%
 <Snack> 
what awards can I make a citizens nomination of the odyssey dog for
 <GBAToad> 
paper jam
 <Gamefreak75> 
besides jump up superstar
 <smasher> 
post the bottom because this phone will kill me
 <Gamefreak75> 
rip paper jam
 <Stargazing> 
rip paper jam
 <Shoey> 
i'd be ok with cutting paper jam
 <Snack> 
that guy was great
 <smasher> 
kill paper jam
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i'll be sure to find something snack
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Metro Kingdom has decent music
 <mcd> 
snip paper jam
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Same with Cap Kingdom
 <Stargazing> 
i loved the sound design in paper jam ;-; but it's clear no one else did so i'm fine with cutting it, i guess
 
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
seems pretty clear but to make it official
 
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 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
im ok with cutting paper jam because it's at the bottom /and/ larger margin
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Remove "Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam" from M1? (y/n/a)
 <Shoey> 
y
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <smasher> 
y
 <Gamefreak75> 
y
 <Baby_Luigi> 
y
 <Stargazing> 
y.
 <mcd> 
y
 <GBAToad> 
y
 <Lord_Bowser> 
6:06 PM <Snack> does splatoon 2 have better functionality for tournaments than 1 did
 <__2257> 
y
 <smasher> 
10-0-0
 <Lord_Bowser> 
private battles i guess
 <smasher> 
deceased
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
not sure about paper mario, i think there's enough support here that i'mm kind of iffy on cutting it just to get it down to 15
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
what do you guys think
 <GBAToad> 
Retire!
 <Lord_Bowser> 
you can assign people to teams
 <Shoey> 
I'd be fine with cutting it
 <turb> 
y
 <Lord_Bowser> 
also y
  
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 <NEXandGBX> 
y
 <Shoey> 
it's just gonna languish at the bottom
 <smasher> 
i have no opinion on paper mario staying or leaving
 <Stargazing> 
per smasher
 <smasher> 
13-0-0
 <mcd> 
would we want to add something instead
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it's removed
 <mcd> 
the only other thing i can remember coming out this year other than odyssey is mario + rabbids
 <Shoey> 
nah mcd
 <mcd> 
was the sound on that good
 <Lakituthequick> 
[obligatory 'i think we'll keep it' joke]
 <turb> 
not sure how to feel about cutting paper mario
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
maybe give it a vote and see how it's going
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I'd rather cut Bowser's Inside Story over Paper Mario tbh
 <turb> 
like i dont want to say anything painted by my bias for that game
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah mcd it's just those two games + tennis once that's out
 <turb> 
how many votes did BIS get
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
a lot more
 <Stargazing> 
eh? bis isn't in the bottom snippet posted
 <smasher> 
we can cut it if we reeeeally want to bring it to 15 but if were ok with 16 i dont see the problem with it staying
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
128
 <turb> 
yeah keep that
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yeah we're not cutting bis
 <Stargazing> 
don't cut bis
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
well just to make it official
 <Lakituthequick> 
6) Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story — 128 — 5.75%
 <GBAToad> 
mario and rabbids actually
 <Gamefreak75> 
cut galaxy kappa
 <smasher> 
that was at paper mario
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Remove "Paper Mario" from M1? (y/n/a)
 <GBAToad> 
i would vote for that to be added
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
A
 <Shoey> 
y
 <Stargazing> 
a
 <GBAToad> 
a
 <NEXandGBX> 
a
 <Baby_Luigi> 
a
 <smasher> 
al
 <Gamefreak75> 
a
 <Lakituthequick> 
a
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
motion abstained
 <__2257> 
y
 <mcd> 
a
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
y
 <Lord_Bowser> 
y
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
mmmm
 <Meta_Knight> 
y
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
switch to y
 <Baby_Luigi> 
sorry I'm still new to this
 <Lakituthequick> 
unv: a
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
it's ok
 <turb> 
a
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
but yeah a lot of our cut/keep decisions will be decided by last year's results
 <smasher> 
7-08
 <smasher> 
-7-0-8
 <__2257> 
sad
 <smasher> 
kill nee
 <__2257> 
-7 votes to cut it
 <turb> 
guys........
 <turb> 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMWmi9ovX7M
 <__2257> 
i guess its added
 <smasher> 
i miss my computer
 <GBAToad> 
switch to y
 <smasher> 
8-0-7
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i forgot that
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok it has been removed
 <GBAToad> 
can we add mario and rabbids
 <smasher> 
vote for odyssey now
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add "Super Mario Odyssey" from M1? (y/n/a)
 <Shoey> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
y
 <Baby_Luigi> 
y
 <smasher> 
y
 <GBAToad> 
y
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'd link the viking funeral except that was tty
 <turb> 
y
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <mcd> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
add from
 <__2257> 
y
 <smasher> 
10-0-0
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it has been added
 <smasher> 
i think it failed
 <Stargazing> 
y
 <Stargazing> 
oh f
 <smasher> 
11-0-0
 <mcd> 
do people think mario and rabbids would be a good addition
 <Lord_Bowser> 
10-0-0-1
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I don't know
 <turb> 
never heard any of its songs
 <Lakituthequick> 
is f an option
 <NEXandGBX> 
i haven't played m+r yet so i have no idea
 <mcd> 
never played the game so i wouldn't know
 <Lord_Bowser> 
yes ltq
 <Stargazing> 
i have no experience with m&r
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
no clue
 <Lakituthequick> 
it is now
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I don't think so
 <Shoey> 
I don't really remember the music
 <mcd> 
has
 <mcd> 
has anyone played it
 <smasher> 
i have m&r but
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i have it
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I want to play it
 <Shoey> 
I have
 <GBAToad> 
i havent but i watched some vinny streams
 <__2257> 
it had good music
 <Lakituthequick> 
the only thingabout rabbits music i know
 <NEXandGBX> 
i'll get it eventually
 <smasher> 
ive only played two levels
 <Shoey> 
it's a great game
 <Lakituthequick> 
is the phantom thing
 <GBAToad> 
honestly the music is pretty good
 <__2257> 
by grant kirkhope
 <Lakituthequick> 
which was great
 <Baby_Luigi> 
But a lot of games in the poll have good music
 <NEXandGBX> 
but i've also got other things to ger right now so rip
 <Shoey> 
fuck it i'll support
 <smasher> 
we can vote to add it
 <GBAToad> 
sound design is also a factor
 <mcd> 
i mean i guess sound des- yeah
 <smasher> 
since we killed pm anyway
 <GBAToad> 
as in sound effects and general mood
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
there's space to add it as we're not at 18, and if it fails to win votes we can remove it next year
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and yes, GBAToad has a point
 <smasher> 
im not bothered by 16 noms
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Still think all of those options have decent music so
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
remember definitions
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Even the lower ones like Sports Mix
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so i'll put this up
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add "Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle" from M1? (y/n/a)
 <Shoey> 
y
 <GBAToad> 
i mean im not sure if i can support a game whos primary sound effect is BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH
 <Baby_Luigi> 
a
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
a
 <Gamefreak75> 
a
 <GBAToad> 
but y
 <Stargazing> 
a
 <__2257> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
a
 <mcd> 
y
 <smasher> 
what the hell, y
 <NEXandGBX> 
couldn't hurt so i'd say y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
y
 <smasher> 
7-0-5
 <mcd> 
can't hurt to put another new game on the list
 <turb> 
a
 <smasher> 
yeah
 <smasher> 
7-0-6
 <GBAToad> 
i wont nominate it for best game
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it's added
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Mario + Rabbids probably has satisfying gun sound effects though
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
or WILL you
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
any other suggestions for M1?
 <Shoey> 
fuck it could go on best game gba
 <GBAToad> 
splatoon 2
 <Stargazing> 
none for me
 <smasher> 
mario + rabbiids for best game instead of oddyssey
 <Shoey> 
yeah
 <Shoey> 
splatoon2
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
metroid: samus returns
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I'd agree M+R>>>Odyssey
 <turb> 
J15. Most Satisfying Gun SFX
 <smasher> 
replace mario awards with splatoon awards
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Best Mario Shooter
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and remember when the tennis game comes out we'll go back and factor things in
 <GBAToad> 
most aesthetic dlc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OfZaX03P9g
 <smasher> 
in all seriousness lets move on
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
just in case they got like Carly Rae Jepsen to collab on the tracks
 <NEXandGBX> 
plot twist yoshis safari ends up winning that category
 <smasher> 
i played emotion in kg
 <smasher> 
i dont regret it
 <mcd> 
emotion for best sound design
 <mcd> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
y
 <smasher> 
y
 <mcd> 
its added
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
next award
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
M2 Favorite Mario Kart Game (Super Mario Kart, Mario Kart 64, Mario Kart: Super Circuit, Mario Kart: Double Dash!!, Mario Kart DS, Mario Kart Wii, Mario Kart 7, Mario Kart 8/Mario Kart 8 Deluxe)
 <Lord_Bowser> 
no change
 <turb> 
skip
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
nothin'
 <NEXandGBX> 
no changes needed here
 <Lakituthequick> 
8) Mario Kart: Super Circuit — 20 — 0.83%
 <Lakituthequick> 
9) O. Mario Kart Arcade GP — 7 — 0.29%
 <Lakituthequick> 
heh
 <smasher> 
!skip
 <Shoey> 
remove mario kart 8
 <mcd> 
i presume the mobile one isn't out yet
 <Shoey> 
terrible game
 <smasher> 
it is now
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Remove Arcade GP
 <smasher> 
not
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
remove Shoey
 <Lord_Bowser> 
thats not till next year
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
y-n-a
 <Shoey> 
y
 <NEXandGBX> 
arcade gp was a write in
 <smasher> 
arcades not on it lol
 <smasher> 
its a write in
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
is there a reason we haevn't added it as a formal nominee
 <mcd> 
remove 8)
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Arcade GP DX is really fun though
 <Lakituthequick> 
it was written in /seven times/
 <mcd> 
well
 <turb> 
we had it one year and then removed it for lack of votes iirc
 <Shoey> 
i'd support the arcade games
 <turb> 
correct me if im wrong
 <Shoey> 
we've got plenty of space
 <Stargazing> 
i loved arcade when i played it!
 <NEXandGBX> 
not many people have played the arcade games probably
 <mcd> 
one reason could be that if we added one arcade gp we'd have to add the others
 <GBAToad> 
yeah we removed it for lack of votes
 <GBAToad> 
on both sides
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Comapred to mainstream, yeah Arcade GP isn't well known
 <Shoey> 
was it ever on?
 <mcd> 
but yeah its not an award with that many nominees
 <GBAToad> 
i /think/
 <Shoey> 
I mean it wont win
 <Baby_Luigi> 
People didn't know about the Thunder Cloud actually being from Arcade GP
 <Shoey> 
but it's a spoiler
 <GBAToad> 
i did
 <smasher> 
i dont think we need the arcade games tbh
 <turb> 
wow now i hate arcade gp even more
 <smasher> 
regardless of spac
 <GBAToad> 
but thats because i was obsessed with mario kart items
 <smasher> 
e
 <mcd> 
i don't care much for arcade gp
 <GBAToad> 
i wanted the thunder stick in mario kart wii
 <Baby_Luigi> 
The basin was funny
 <mcd> 
why are people voting it as the best mario kart game
 <Lakituthequick> 
thunder stick
 <Baby_Luigi> 
BANG BANG BANG
 <smasher> 
theyre weird
 <Lakituthequick> 
interesting name i guess
 <GBAToad> 
anyway yeah !skip
 <mcd> 
skip
 <Baby_Luigi> 
skip nothing change
 <smasher> 
!skip
 <Lord_Bowser> 
skip
 <mcd> 
!players
 <turb> 
skip
 <Lord_Bowser> 
!end
 <Baby_Luigi> 
!kill Baby_Luigi
 <smasher> 
1. mcd
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah i'm satisfied with a No Vote and moving on
 <mcd> 
ah good
 <mcd> 
nobody else
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
M3
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Favorite Mario Platformer (Super Mario 64/Super Mario 64 DS, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Super Mario Bros., Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario World, New Super Mario Bros., New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Super Mario Sunshine, Super Mario 3D Land, New Super Mario Bros. 2, New Super Mario Bros. U/New Super Luigi U, Super Mario 3D World, Super Mario Run)
 <turb> 
odyssey
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Duh
 <smasher> 
do we even need to vote
 <Lakituthequick> 
11) Super Mario 3D Land — 50 — 2.15%
 <Lakituthequick> 
12) Super Mario Bros. — 35 — 1.50%
 <Lakituthequick> 
13) Super Mario Run — 21 — 0.90%
 <Lakituthequick> 
14) O. New Super Mario Bros. 2 — 7 — 0.30%
 <Lakituthequick> 
14) O. Super Mario Bros. 2 — 7 — 0.30%
 <Gamefreak75> 
no
 <turb> 
the vote should be on shit to remove yeah
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
there's 13 nominees so we don't have to do anything to make room
 <turb> 
oh only 13
 <turb> 
in that case
 <turb> 
let's not vote
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i'm fine with a clear addition
 <turb> 
i thought there were more because of the length of some of these names LOL
 <NEXandGBX> 
odyssey's a shoe in
 <smasher> 
unless 21 is too low lets just add odyssey and move on
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
oh wait
 <Lord_Bowser> 
just add odyssey by default to awards like this imo
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i forgot to erase one of the red nominees
 <mcd> 
i don't think any of those are worth removing
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it's reflected on the full list though so _
 <smasher> 
which ones red
 <Stargazing> 
rip super mario run
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Add Odyssey, then skip I guess
 <Lakituthequick> 
NSMB2 was red
 <smasher> 
oh ok
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
there weren't any other platformers so there's no further additions except ones we'e previously removed
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
does anyone feel passionate about those
 <smasher> 
i dont think we need to readd anything
 <Stargazing> 
nah, it's fine like this
 <NEXandGBX> 
given that they only have 7 write ins probably not
 <smasher> 
id say move on
 <Baby_Luigi> 
No
 <Baby_Luigi> 
skip
 <mcd> 
skip
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
M4 Favorite Mario Kart Course (Bowser's Castle (N64), Rainbow Road (3DS), Wario Colosseum, Waluigi Pinball, Airship Fortress, Mushroom Gorge, Coconut Mall, Maple Treeway, Electrodrome, N64 Rainbow Road (Wii U), Mount Wario, Mute City, Animal Crossing, Baby Park, Big Blue)
 <Lakituthequick> 
13) Wario Colosseum — 78 — 3.46%
 <Lakituthequick> 
14) Mute City — 48 — 2.13%
 <Lakituthequick> 
15) Animal Crossing — 46 — 2.04%
 <Lakituthequick> 
16) O. Rainbow Road (Wii) — 17 — 0.75%
 <Lakituthequick> 
17) O. Koopa Cape — 14 — 0.62%
 <Lakituthequick> 
17) O. Tick-Tock Clock — 14 — 0.62%
 <smasher> 
this one depends solely on votes and writeins
 <smasher> 
hmm
 <mcd> 
the newer ones don't seem to be doing well
 <Gamefreak75> 
skip?
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I find the new ones not doing well strange
 <GBAToad> 
we dont really have anything to add or remove here
 <Shoey> 
animal crossing is a bad stage
 <turb> 
i dont think theyre doing bad enough to warrant removal
 <smasher> 
i dont think the gap is small enough between animal crossing and rr wii
 <GBAToad> 
yeah 40+ votes is pretty good
 <turb> 
and theres no new tracks to replace them with
 <Gamefreak75> 
mute city being so low is disgusting btw
 <smasher> 
skip
 <NEXandGBX> 
skip
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I like Mute City
 <GBAToad> 
same
 <Baby_Luigi> 
!skip poll
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'm fine with some stagnacy here
 <GBAToad> 
i think i suggested it be added last year
 <GBAToad> 
or sth
 <Lord_Bowser> 
tfw no neo bowser city
 <GBAToad> 
is neo bowser not on there
 <GBAToad> 
already
 <GBAToad> 
i swore it was
 <Gamefreak75> 
this is for good courses, lb
 <Shoey> 
neo bowser city sucks
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Dragon Driftway good track
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
this award does have some stagnancy, yeah
 <Lord_Bowser> 
>:[
 <smasher> 
tick tock clock is one of my favorite stages and it not being the highest writein saddens me btw
 <mcd> 
more like no bowser city
 <NEXandGBX> 
neo bowser on 200cc is Send Help
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I like Neo Bowser City
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but nothing that i feel needs to be addressed yet
 <__2257> 
neo bowser city is the best
 <Stargazing> 
i'm mixed on neo bowser, i don't think it's good to be added, honestly
 <Lord_Bowser> 
bad taste all of ya
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I love racing on 200cc Neo Bowser City
 <Stargazing> 
neo bowser is horribly polarizing
 <mcd> 
yeah tick tock clock is gr8
 <Lord_Bowser> 
except 22
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Especially with bananas only
 <Lakituthequick> 
neo bowser is 25th with 9 write ints
 <Lord_Bowser> 
22 has patrician taste
 <Shoey> 
tick tock clock is great
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
neo bowser placed too low for me to consider adding as a formal nominee
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
be sure to write it in
 <NEXandGBX> 
it'd be funnier if i saw other people careening off the edge like i do
 <GBAToad> 
wheres the 2017 results again
 <GBAToad> 
hhhhhh
 <Baby_Luigi> 
How is Koopa Cape so low too I like that track
 <GBAToad> 
i need to keep these bookmarked
 <turb> 
i should probably replace the full list with the relevant links
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RsocZ6s-whVG__FrTqGK_CVeDPOJiAVeYBB-7aat2oo/edit#
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I think it's probably just better tracks on the list
 <turb> 
or i would if my microwave wasnt on
 <GBAToad> 
add turbs microwave to worst mechanic
 <Gamefreak75> 
my computer is being slow so i cant open the docs
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
moving on then
 <Gamefreak75> 
rip
 <Lord_Bowser> 
what are you microwaving
 <turb> 
i dont know
 <turb> 
im not the one using it
 <smasher> 
warioware mega microwaves
 <GBAToad> 
i laughed
 <Lakituthequick> 
whay kinda microwave intervenes editing a google doc
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
M5 Favorite DK Game (Donkey Kong Country, Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest, Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble!, Donkey Kong 64, Diddy Kong Racing, Donkey Kong Country Returns/Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D, Donkey Kong Jr. Math, Donkey Kong (Arcade/NES), Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, Donkey Kong Jungle Beat, Donkey Kong (Game
 <turb> 
the router being in the kitchen
 <Lord_Bowser> 
!skip
 <Lakituthequick> 
9) Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble! — 51 — 2.53%
 <Lakituthequick> 
10) Donkey Kong Jungle Beat — 34 — 1.68%
 <Lakituthequick> 
11) Donkey Kong Jr. Math — 30 — 1.49%
 <Lakituthequick> 
12) O. Donkey Konga — 7 — 0.35%
 <Lakituthequick> 
13) O. Donkey Kong Barrel Blast — 6 — 0.30%
 <Lakituthequick> 
13) O. Donkey Kong Jungle Climber — 6 — 0.30%
 <Gamefreak75> 
add "with new funky mode"
 <NEXandGBX> 
there hasn't been any new dk games i thunk so _
 <smasher> 
skip
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
per GF
 <mcd> 
yeah not really much that needs to be done here
 <Stargazing> 
skip
  
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i wish my keyoard woked propely
 <smasher> 
the only new one is tf remake
 <smasher> 
port
 <smasher> 
w/e
 <turb> 
the port isnt different enough to mention on here
 <GBAToad> 
its not a remake its a port with new funky mode
 <GBAToad> 
yeah
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
does the port have a new name
 <smasher> 
daily reminder: the wii u is dead
 <Stargazing> 
nop
 <NEXandGBX> 
no
 <GBAToad> 
so we just need to add (Wii U/Switch)
 <Baby_Luigi> 
With a New Funky Mode
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i was thinking about that gba
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
do we need to do that
 <smasher> 
im ok with that
 <Stargazing> 
i don't think we do since the others don't
 <Baby_Luigi> 
No we don't
 <smasher> 
Arcade/NES
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
that's to set it apart from Donkey Kong (Game Boy)
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but in this case they're the same game
 <smasher> 
fair
 <GBAToad> 
i thought we had a qualifier for consoles in the awards polls but i guess not?
 <GBAToad> 
im dumb
 <GBAToad> 
skip then
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
in certain awards we do
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it's tuff
 <smasher> 
lets just move on lol
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
M6 Favorite Wario Game (Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3, Wario Land 3, Wario Land 4, WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Party Game$!, WarioWare: Twisted!, WarioWare: Touched!, WarioWare: Smooth Moves, Wario: Master of Disguise, Wario Land: Shake It!, WarioWare: D.I.Y., Wario World, Game & Wario, Wario Land II)
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
adding gold in 2019
 <Lakituthequick> 
11) Wario Land II — 80 — 4.25%
 <Lakituthequick> 
12) Wario: Master of Disguise — 77 — 4.09%
 <Lakituthequick> 
13) WarioWare: Twisted! — 55 — 2.92%
 <Lakituthequick> 
14) O. Virtual Boy Wario Land — 5 — 0.27%
 <Lakituthequick> 
15) O. Wario Blast: Featuring Bomberman! — 2 — 0.11%
 <Lord_Bowser> 
!skip
 <smasher> 
gold wont be out in time so
 <Stargazing> 
yeah gold isn't relevant this year
 <smasher> 
!skipp
 <Stargazing> 
skip
 <Baby_Luigi> 
!skip
 <NEXandGBX> 
gold in 2019 probably but nothing noe
 <Lakituthequick> 
there were no more writeins
 <mcd> 
yeah definitely skip
 <GBAToad> 
AshleyWare: The Ashleying
 <Shoey> 
skip
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
vote for master of disguise
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
M7 Favorite Yoshi Game (Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, Yoshi's Island DS, Tetris Attack, Yoshi's Story, Yoshi Touch & Go, Yoshi's Cookie, Yoshi, Yoshi Topsy-Turvy, Yoshi's New Island, Yoshi's Woolly World/Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World)
 <Lakituthequick> 
7) Yoshi's Cookie — 28 — 1.32%
 <Lakituthequick> 
8) Yoshi — 27 — 1.27%
 <Lakituthequick> 
9) Yoshi Touch & Go — 18 — 0.85%
 <Lakituthequick> 
10) Yoshi Topsy-Turvy — 8 — 0.38%
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
nothing here, i imagine
 <Lord_Bowser> 
yoshi switch game doesnt have a date yet iirc
 <Lord_Bowser> 
so !skip
 <NEXandGBX> 
i assume yoshi switch won't be out by the time the awards happens so
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I like how there's no Yoshi Switch information on the latest direct
 <GBAToad> 
yoshi switch is totally 2019
 <smasher> 
!skip
 <NEXandGBX> 
skip
 <mcd> 
skip
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
M8 Favorite Art Style (Retro style sprites, Yoshi's Island style, Donkey Kong Country style, Main series 3D style, Paper Mario style, Mario & Luigi style, Yoshi's Story style, Yoshi's Woolly World style, Wario Land: Shake It! style, Super Mario RPG style, Super Mario Strikers style)
 <Lakituthequick> 
9) Donkey Kong Country style — 79 — 3.50%
 <Lakituthequick> 
10) Super Mario RPG style — 70 — 3.10%
 <Lakituthequick> 
11) Yoshi's Story style — 27 — 1.20%
 <Lakituthequick> 
12) O. Mario Kart Series style — 4 — 0.18%
 <Lakituthequick> 
13) O. Luigi's Mansion style — 3 — 0.13%
 <Lakituthequick> 
14) O. GCN Mario Party style — 1 — 0.04%
 <smasher> 
tt is super low but with only 10 nominees i think were ok for now
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
does odyssey fit into "Main series 3D style"?
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Yes
 <GBAToad> 
wheres gcn warioware style
 <Stargazing> 
oh wow yoshi's story style is really really low
 <Lord_Bowser> 
yeah
 <smasher> 
70 to 27 thats quite a drop
 <Lord_Bowser> 
it is just the 3d style but polished
 <mcd> 
its also quite a bit higher than the write-ins though
 <Stargazing> 
yeah odyssey is main series 3d
 <Lord_Bowser> 
!skip
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yoshi style dead
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Shouldn't the "Series" in Mario Kart Series be low caps?
 <smasher> 
ive mentioned warioware before but it never got off the ground
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I unironically think that the world building of kart games exceeds most regular main games
 <NEXandGBX> 
nothing we can really replace yoshi's story style with so skip
 <Stargazing> 
it's a write in
 <mcd> 
i presume somebody wrote it in like that
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but it unfortunately doesn't have many votes
 <GBAToad> 
warioware has its own style actually
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I agree with that
 <Lord_Bowser> 
blof thats a write in
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Mario Kart's tracks are amazing
 <Stargazing> 
but skip
 <Lakituthequick> 
mario kart style also is vague because it is different across games
 <smasher> 
unless anyone else wants to give warioware a shot, skip
 <Baby_Luigi> 
That's what the "O." means
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it probably should've been edited to lowercase yeah, but it was a write-in
 <mcd> 
is warioware not already wariothere
 <Baby_Luigi> 
No
 
Lord_Bowser glares
 <mcd> 
:(
 <turb> 
wario land is
 <smasher> 
warino
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Wario Land
 
Lord_Bowser glares harsher
 <Lakituthequick> 
wait
 <Baby_Luigi> 
idk it doesn't count though
 <Lakituthequick> 
14) O. SNES game manual style — 1 — 0.04%
 <__2257> 
me too anton
 <Lakituthequick> 
haa
 <Stargazing> 
what
 <Stargazing> 
ahahaha
 <Baby_Luigi> 
what IS SNES game manual style
 <__2257> 
youre so smart, i say with zero bias
 <Lakituthequick> 
someone likes manuals apparently
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
:)
 <NEXandGBX> 
like smw artwork?? i guess??
 <GBAToad> 
i'd vote to add warioware tbqh but im not sure how high it would place since it got zero write-ins
 <Baby_Luigi> 
SMW artwork is like different from SMW:YI's art style
 <smasher> 
per gba
 <Stargazing> 
yeah, per gba
 <Baby_Luigi> 
It's a write-in but it's so bizarre
 <Shoey> 
per gba
 <Stargazing> 
warioware would be good but there's no outsider support for it
 <smasher> 
i want to add it but i dont know how well it would do so it might not be worth it
 <turb> 
weve added stuff with no writeins before fwiw
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we can see how it performs this year and destroy it if it gets only gba's vote in the polls
 <turb> 
with successful results
 <GBAToad> 
i love you all
 <Shoey> 
sometimes people don't know what they want till they see it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
how would it be phrased
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'm ok with giving it a try
 <turb> 
so its not a be-all end-all
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
Warioware series style?
 <smasher> 
i mean turb does have a point
 <mcd> 
it has a distinct enough style
 <Lakituthequick> 
just WarioWare style
 <GBAToad> 
its pretty fucking weird style
 <Stargazing> 
yeah warioware style
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I think Main series art style is really broad
 <NEXandGBX> 
we do only have 11 entries so not like we're hitting any caps with this
 <Stargazing> 
yknow ur right
 <Stargazing> 
let's try it
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I forgot the name of the artist responsible for the 2D vector art that we see in LINE stickers
 <Stargazing> 
i'm in support
 <smasher> 
its unique enough so it could attract voters if theyre told it exists
 <GBAToad> 
microgames have anything from real life photos to 2d pictures
 <GBAToad> 
and then you have like
 <Baby_Luigi> 
When I think WarioWare, I just think of the simple character vectors
 <GBAToad> 
https://www.mariowiki.com/images/e/ea/GameWario_AshleyTitleScreen.png
 <Baby_Luigi> 
And the animation style in the cutscenes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add "WarioWare style" to M8? (y/n/a)
 <Shoey> 
y
 <GBAToad> 
y
 <turb> 
y
 <smasher> 
y
 <Baby_Luigi> 
y
 <mcd> 
y
 <NEXandGBX> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
did there just go 7 votes in under a second
 <smasher> 
9-0-0
 <__2257> 
y
 <smasher> 
10-0-0
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Are we going to add main series 2D art style too?
 <Stargazing> 
y
 <smasher> 
im so happy
 <mcd> 
add snes manual style y-y-y
 <smasher> 
my dream of warioware being on this is finally coming true
 <__2257> 
no ltq, not for me
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
what would be the 2d stuff
 <smasher> 
11-0-0
 <NEXandGBX> 
well aside from 2d artwork i think every other 2d style is pretty much accounted for
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
btw warioware is added
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Yeah that's what I mean by 2D artwork
 <NEXandGBX> 
assuming nsmb is like 3d style
 <smasher> 
what does snes manual style MEAN
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Nothing
 <Lakituthequick> 
it looked like 7 people voted at 03:41:06 at mine but /shrug
 <smasher> 
theyre ready to embrace warioware into their lives
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i want to add vector art
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i can see why this would be included but is there a way to make it more specific
 <Lakituthequick> 
2D stuff would be the art that is used in 3DWorld and in the Line stickers
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i.e. the line stickers
 <Lord_Bowser> 
yeah
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
even as an internal definition for us
 <Baby_Luigi> 
And Mario Party: Star Rush
 <Baby_Luigi> 
The art style has a name assosciated with it but I forgot who he was
 <turb> 
I assumed it was main series 2d platformers
 <turb> 
i gues s the stickers make sense
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
not all of the line sets are the same style though
 <Baby_Luigi> 
It's also heavily used in promotional material
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Well I was thinking of Mario Kart ones
 <Lord_Bowser> 
the 2d super mario ones and the mario kart ones
 <NEXandGBX> 
the wiki mainly lists it as vector art i think but i'll check
 <Baby_Luigi> 
And there's Nintendo Badge Arcade too which has character icons in that style
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
there's 12 nominees in this so there's room to split 2d into two separate nominees if needed
 <Lakituthequick> 
here's an entire gallery (just uncoloured): https://www.mariowiki.com/File:SM3DW-AllStamps.jpg
 <GBAToad> 
warioware style https://www.mariowiki.com/images/0/09/Mona%27s_Pig_3D_WWMM.png
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
kamek is so cute
 <NEXandGBX> 
https://www.mariowiki.com/Gallery:Mario_artwork_and_scans#2D_vector_artwork
 <Baby_Luigi> 
We could split into classic and modern
 <Shoey> 
i'd support vector
 <Stargazing> 
ah thats it, 2d vector
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'm not sure "2d vector" would be a good name for it
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i like the idea i just think it needs a better name as a nominee
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Just vector is good enough
 <GBAToad> 
Just Vector
 <Lord_Bowser> 
Just Hector
 <GBAToad> 
🤔
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
but i mean
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I agree with just Vector but we also need to remember that not every voter uses full thinking
 <Lakituthequick> 
I could imagine "vector" being too jargon-y? for the
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
idk that "vector" is gonna get people thinking of the 2d - yeah
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yeah what ltq said
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
is "2D Vector" too much of a redundancy
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Yes it is
 <GBAToad> 
yeah id use line stickers or 3d world sticker style
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
or is there more value in the clarity
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i like "3D World Sticker Style"
 <GBAToad> 
3D World Stamp-style
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Vector is too jargony
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
it's clunky
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
but it gets the job done
 <smasher> 
im still here btw i just dont have any opinion on this one
 <Lakituthequick> 
but it's used outside 3d world too so
 <Lakituthequick> 
..
 <Stargazing> 
line sticker style
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we can set this for further discussion on the forum
 <Stargazing> 
i prefer that one
 <Stargazing> 
yeah
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Can we ever link Awards title to articles on the wiki?
 <Snack> 
raise your hand if you actually know what vector art is
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but I agree that we should pursue at least one nominee in this field
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
me :)
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I do
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and what do you mean Baby_Luigi
 <Snack> 
because it seems strange to me that someone would use “vector” to describe a style
 <Lakituthequick> 
adding links to the poll nominees i guess
 <__2257> 
yeah i know what vector is but
 <__2257> 
its not really an art style
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm not sure if it's possible
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and yeah 22 has a point
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
vector itself isn't a style but the way nintendo uses it is very consistent
 <Baby_Luigi> 
It's basically line arts that relies on points to draw shapes and so images don't lose information when you zoom in on them. They aren't pixel based like regular graphics are.
 <Lakituthequick> 
technically it isn't an art style, no, thus a different name would be needed
 <Lakituthequick> 
heck, floor plans are vector drawings
 <Lakituthequick> 
barely art
 <Baby_Luigi> 
But when we say "vector art" I can recognize what they mean.
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'll make a topic for this on the forum, so any other considerations for M8?
 <Toadbert> 
vector art makes me think of the vectrix computer
 <Toadbert> 
or whatever it is
 <smasher> 
move on
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i don't have any
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
next is
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
M9 Favorite DLC (The Legend of Zelda × Mario Kart 8, Animal Crossing × Mario Kart 8, Mercedes-Benz × Mario Kart 8, New Super Luigi U, Peach's Castle stage (SSB4), Super Mario Maker stage (SSB4), Super Mario Mash-Up Pack (Minecraft))
 <Lakituthequick> 
5) Super Mario Maker stage (SSB4) — 201 — 9.33%
 <Lakituthequick> 
6) Mercedes-Benz × Mario Kart 8 — 142 — 6.59%
 <Lakituthequick> 
7) Peach's Castle stage (SSB4) — 137 — 6.36%
 <Lakituthequick> 
8) O. All 6 courses from Mario Golf for N64 (Mario Golf: World Tour) — 3 — 0.14%
 <Lakituthequick> 
8) O. Gold Classics Pack (NSMB2) — 3 — 0.14%
 <Lakituthequick> 
10) O. Coin Rush (NSMB2) — 1 — 0.05%
 <Lakituthequick> 
10) O. Yoshi's Island Zone (Sonic Lost World) — 1 — 0.05%
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
which we have agreed upon to redefine and repurpose, and will take place on the forum
 <Lord_Bowser> 
skip for now then i guess
 <Lakituthequick> 
can we not use #) to avoid sunglass emoji
 <Baby_Luigi> 
skip
 <smasher> 
yeah skip for now
 <Shoey> 
skip
 <smasher> 
well do this on forum
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
what would you suggest
 <Lord_Bowser> 
ltq you can disable smilies in your post
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
8. ?
 <Lord_Bowser> 
or do a bold tag between 8 and )
 <Stargazing> 
that would cause google docs to freak out
 <Lakituthequick> 
Lord_Bowser: yeah but not everywhere thathepls
 <Stargazing> 
if you did 8.
 <Lakituthequick> 
Anton{Politoed}: in example
 <Lord_Bowser> 
also yeah per star
 <smasher> 
i do bold tags yeah
 <Stargazing> 
it's fine for one small inconvience
 <Lakituthequick> 
also chatzilla
 <smasher> 
i never found this to be a big deal lol
 <Lakituthequick> 
generally not no, but /ponderings/
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I can look into things to change it
 <__2257> 
i mean its really easy for me to change it for next year
 <__2257> 
those tables are automatically generated
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah it's just a quick edit in the vote sorter
 <__2257> 
i guess next year is this yea
 <__2257> 
r
 <Lakituthequick> 
neat
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
whether we switch to . or putting something else in
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i'll make note of it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
next up is M10 Favorite Partner Developer but we have 5 minutes left with much to discuss about it so I'm going to skip it for now
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so
 <smasher> 
yeah lets not get into that yet
 <smasher> 
m11
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
M11 Favorite Major Character (Mario, Luigi, Princess Peach, Yoshi, Wario, Donkey Kong, Bowser, Rosalina, Bowser Jr., Toad)
 <Lord_Bowser> 
skip
 <Stargazing> 
skip
 <smasher> 
do nothing
 <Lakituthequick> 
8) Bowser Jr. — 120 — 4.91%
 <Lakituthequick> 
9) Princess Peach — 116 — 4.75%
 <Lakituthequick> 
10) Donkey Kong — 61 — 2.50%
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
add pauline :)
 <__2257> 
add poochy
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
(skip)
 <Lord_Bowser> 
pauline isnt quite major enough yet
 <Snack> 
Ahem.
 <Baby_Luigi> 
add Baby Luigi
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I'll be the only vote for him
 <NEXandGBX> 
skip
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
as much as I'd love to remove DK we can't really do that given the nature of this award
 <Snack> 
I amhere to speak for the most aggrieved minority in this community
 <smasher> 
poor donkey kong
 <GBAToad> 
pauline isnt quite major yet no
 <Baby_Luigi> 
No for Pauline
 <Snack> 
cruelly not represented in M11
 <Snack> 
Daisy fans
 <smasher> 
leave
 <GBAToad> 
Ashley, however.............................................
 <turb> 
:gun:
 <Gamefreak75> 
who
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Daisy is not major lal
 <turb> 
I guess just skip
 <NEXandGBX> 
pauline in favorite supporting maybe
 <GBAToad> 
🔫
 <Stargazing> 
i'm a daisy fan and i can fully say
 <Baby_Luigi> 
If Daisy gets in, Waluigi has toi
 <Stargazing> 
no to daisy
 <turb> 
unless pauline becomes a big thing later we cant do much
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
M12 Favorite Supporting Character (Princess Daisy, Waluigi, Toadsworth, Diddy Kong, Professor E. Gadd, Toadette, Captain Toad, Birdo, Kamek, Poochy)
 <Lakituthequick> 
8) Diddy Kong — 147 — 6.37%
 <Lakituthequick> 
9) Toadsworth — 92 — 3.99%
 <Lakituthequick> 
10) Birdo — 60 — 2.60%
 <Lakituthequick> 
11) O. Starlow — 4 — 0.17%
 <Lakituthequick> 
12) O. Fawful — 3 — 0.13%
 <Lakituthequick> 
12) O. Ludwig von Koopa — 3 — 0.13%
 <smasher> 
pauline would be good for supporting yeah
 <Lord_Bowser> 
definitely add pauline here
 <Stargazing> 
pauline would be good in supporting
 <Lord_Bowser> 
cappy
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Poor Birdo
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
there's a bunch of supports in odyssey but the ones who stand out are Pauline and Cappy
 <GBAToad> 
supporting is interesting since we're canning wario and dk characters
 <smasher> 
id say add pauline and cappy yeah
 <Lord_Bowser> 
tiara...?
 <NEXandGBX> 
per
 <Lord_Bowser> 
or too minor
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ubt yeah what gba said
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Tiara is useless
 <Lakituthequick> 
my notes also say "Add Pauline, Cappy"
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but*
 <GBAToad> 
is it possible to lift anyone from those awards and slot them in here
 <Shoey> 
add em both
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it is possible yes
 <Lord_Bowser> 
oh wait
 <smasher> 
tiara isnt important enough imo
 <Lord_Bowser> 
the rabbids
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'd say a few of them deserve to be on here if we do
 <smasher> 
i
 <GBAToad> 
leave lb
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Rabbids aren't Mario
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
like funky kong
 <Gamefreak75> 
ugh no rabbids
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
and ashley
 <__2257> 
rabbid would be more like favorite species anyway
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I want to add them to see the community squirm like they are now
 <Lakituthequick> 
Tiara just,, exists yeah
 <smasher> 
add funky and ashley
 <Lord_Bowser> 
was there a big partner character in mario and rabbids
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so to get these out of the way
 <__2257> 
beep0
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Mario Rabbid
 <__2257> 
or whatever he was called?
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add "Pauline" to M12? (y/n/a)
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Luigi Rabbid, Peach Rabbid, and Yoshi Rabbid
 <Shoey> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Stargazing> 
y
 <Baby_Luigi> 
y
 <GBAToad> 
i dont really want to add cappy since he's a powerup like fluud
 <Gamefreak75> 
n
 <smasher> 
y
 <GBAToad> 
y
 <NEXandGBX> 
y
 <Gamefreak75> 
oh, y
 <__2257> 
i mean the guide robot
 <__2257> 
y
 <Meta_Knight> 
y
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Cappy is more of a character than FLUDD IMO
 <Shoey> 
cappy is a living being
 <GBAToad> 
i know but Supporting
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
she's added
 <smasher> 
10-0-0
 <Snack> 
barely
 <GBAToad> 
he supports in one game
 <GBAToad> 
pauline has many
 <GBAToad> 
even in dk
 <Lord_Bowser> 
was beep-o equivalent to like kersti/huey/stuffwell etc
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add "Cappy" to M12? (y/n/a)
 <Shoey> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <__2257> 
yes basically
 <Stargazing> 
a
 <Baby_Luigi> 
y
 <GBAToad> 
n
 <Gamefreak75> 
n
 <NEXandGBX> 
y
 <__2257> 
y
 <Lord_Bowser> 
y
 <smasher> 
gba does have a point
 <__2257> 
he was like
 <smasher> 
a
 <__2257> 
the leader of the party actually
 <__2257> 
and had a few moves
 <Baby_Luigi> 
He has only one appearance so far because it was released only recently
 <Lord_Bowser> 
add beep-o...?
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Give it some time and he might appear more
 <smasher> 
6-2-2
 <turb> 
y
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Cappy already has a plushie
 <smasher> 
7-2-2
 <__2257> 
i dunno
 <Lord_Bowser> 
im hesitant cause like 3 people ever played mario and rabbids
 <__2257> 
you could try it, but i dont think hed get many votes
 <Shoey> 
actualy mario and rabbids sold really well
 <smasher> 
eh he was major enough in odyssey to be in this already honestly
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I want to play Mario + Rabbids
 <GBAToad> 
i dont think we should add beep-o at the very least
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
y, so
 <GBAToad> 
i can take cappy
 <smasher> 
8-2-1
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
cappy is added
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I'm neutral on this
 <smasher> 
switching to 1
 <GBAToad> 
switching to y
 <Shoey> 
I think it's the highest selling third party game
 <smasher> 
9-
 <Meta_Knight> 
y
 <smasher> 
jdhgh
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
y
 <smasher> 
switching to y
 <turb> 
yeah id say no to beep-o but cappy is major enough
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it's past time to end so let me wrap it up for now:
 <smasher> 
12-1-1
 <__2257> 
id abstain on beep-o
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
next meeting we will continue with working on M12 Favorite Supporting Character
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Same
 <__2257> 
i legitimately dont know what makes sense
 <Gamefreak75> 
are we going to add funky and
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
see you the
 <Gamefreak75> 
oh
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I would love to see representation from the former M23/M24 nominees
 <Shoey> 
we should add funky and ashely
 <Shoey> 
and jimmy t
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so feel free to choose those and pocket them as a suggestion or next meeting
 <__2257> 
guys lets add most unnecessary remake to fail awards
 <Gamefreak75> 
lol
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
we'll also need to trim down the list if we go that route
 <Baby_Luigi> 
So I can rail on SS + BM
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
becaus if we add dk and wario
 <GBAToad> 
id knock out toadsworth
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
we're gonna run over 18
 <smasher> 
we can cut birdo
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah we might have to tweak it some
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but
 <smasher> 
even though it saddens me
 <Gamefreak75> 
tbf BiS remake backgrounds look really nice though
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
that's next meeting
 <GBAToad> 
Vore: The Game
 <GBAToad> 
now in HD
 <Gamefreak75> 
battle and overworld
 <smasher> 
no vore
 <Baby_Luigi> 
BiS remake has nice sprites because Dream Team style is cool
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
these are what I have for topics to make
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Definitions forum topic *M9 Favorite DLC repurpose topic; expand definition *New award ideas topic *M8 2d art style topic
 <__2257> 
vore hd is a pretty scary series of words
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I will post them some time later to be discussed over the next week or so
 <Stargazing> 
delet this gba
 <Gamefreak75> 
vore 4d
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and come back to them as necessary
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
otherwise I think this was a pretty solid meeting
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
wii u did it!
 <Lord_Bowser> 
what is a wii u
 <smasher> 
wii u is dead
 <Lord_Bowser> 
(hooray)
 <turb> 
nintendo switch did it
 <NEXandGBX> 
switch did it
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
weeeee did iiiiiit
 <smasher> 
switch did it
 <Stargazing> 
we done did it
 <smasher> 
we survived
 <turb> 
hopefully i dont have to pop in and out of the next meeting
 <turb> 
but we did it
 <Lord_Bowser> 
he does it
 
Anton{Politoed} bangs a squeaky toy gavel to adjourn this meeting