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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
anyways awards are uncanceled
 <smasher> 
time to go to sleep
 <smasher> 
or not
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Okay, bye
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
assuming you all follow time in a linear fashion, this is our 3rd meeting
 <smasher> 
what if we dont
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it'll probably take longer handing out an introduction than just going with what I have planned
 <Lakituthequick> 
linear time is old-fashioned
 <turb> 
im here
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?board=80.0
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
there's a bunch of threads in there
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
the ones for M5-7, the Costume poll, and the Songs
 <Gamefreak75> 
ive done my part
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I can't give any input in there because none of the Yoshi levels had too much of an impact on me. The only thing I remember was the drug one
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
these are all things that aren't at a point where I feel like we could cover it this meeting
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so just know that soon I'll either be making polls for the ones that had calls for nominees, or will be seeking to end polls already in progress
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
one poll that's up now is https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=39682.0
 <Gabumon> 
theres only one sensible course of action
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it needs at least 9 responses
 <Shoe> 
death battle?
 <Gabumon> 
obviously we will have to just marathon stream every DK, Wario, and Yoshi game in existence
 <turb> 
#ivoted
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i'm horrified
 <Shoe> 
oh are we doing favorite costume now?
 <Gamefreak75> 
whos got dk64
 <turb> 
22 does
 <turb> 
lets get him to play it
 <Gabumon> 
turb showing his sadistic side
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so beyond that
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
the other loose end from last meeting is Favorite Add-On Content
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=39718.msg1998092#msg1998092
 <Gamefreak75> 
100% its the only way we can see all the levels
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Oh crap I skipped Bridal Mario
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
that's been the only post so I'd like to see if we can resolve this soon
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and then move on to M14-30
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
anyone have any feelings about e-reader content for M9 Favorite Add-On Content?
 <Shoe> 
i'd be in favor
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
in favor of what though
 <Baby_Luigi> 
the only e-reader experience i have is mario party-e
 <Baby_Luigi> 
so idk
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I need nominee ideas
 <Shoe> 
oh sorry anton
 <turb> 
has anyone played the e-reader content
 <turb> 
for sma4
 <Shoe> 
22 has
 <Stargazing> 
i haven't
 <NEXandGBX> 
while i am skeptical about how well-known they are, i'd be down with adding them in
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i will if i can pirate it successfully
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i have it on wii u
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
if i do i'll tell you how it goes
 <smasher> 
I'm gonna try to vote after meeting btw
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i can give it a try
 <smasher> 
Also i havent
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we're not discussing whether we could have them in
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm looking for nominees for them now or we can move on
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if no one has any
 <NEXandGBX> 
hmm
 <__2257> 
uh
 <__2257> 
doy ou have a questio nabout it turb
 <turb> 
oh not really
 <turb> 
i just mean i think youre the only person who actually can suggest any nominees for this
 <Shoe> 
the only ones that people would know are the smb3 levels
 <__2257> 
i guess i didnt understand
 <Gabumon> 
e-reader levels (Super Mario Advance: Super Mario Bros. 3 or whatever the exact title is)
 <__2257> 
i thought we were adding the entirety of the ereader content as a whole?
 <Gabumon> 
4
 <Lakituthequick> 
I for one only know e-cards are a thing that exist, so ...
 <Gabumon> 
theres a 4 in there somewhere
 <Lord_Bowser> 
sma4: smb3
 <NEXandGBX> 
super mario bros 34
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
idk what we're adding because no on discussed it
 <Baby_Luigi> 
how many people have played e-reader content
 <__2257> 
only me apparently
 <turb> 
we could just add the entire thing since the other nominees are treated as packs and entire updates
 <Lord_Bowser> 
the only really known and easily playable ereader stuff are the smb3 levels i think
 <Shoe> 
anybody that has smb3 on the wii u would have been able to play them
 <turb> 
instead of something like selecting a certain course from the mario kart dlc packs
 <NEXandGBX> 
i've never owned an e-reader and haven't gotten sma4 on the wii u eshop so rip
 <Lord_Bowser> 
everything else is tough to access and obscure
 <Gamefreak75> 
well adding individual levels would be pointless
 <turb> 
yeah
 <Shoe> 
i'd be fine with just adding the smb3 stuff tbh
 <turb> 
uh I guess we cna just add the entire thing with edo's nominee name
 <Gamefreak75> 
just combine them into one category
 <NEXandGBX> 
if we're just going as a whole i'd be fine with sma4 e-reader levels
 <Lord_Bowser> 
yeah per turb
 <turb> 
and then move on
 <Baby_Luigi> 
So, E-Reader levels?
 <Gabumon> 
I dont even know whats there to discuss
 <Gabumon> 
like
 <Gabumon> 
theyre extra levels
 <Gabumon> 
thats an add-on
 <smasher> 
ive used pokemon ereader levels
 <Gabumon> 
put it in or dont
 <turb> 
id say put it in
 <smasher> 
which doesn't help us
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'm down for putting it in
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Whatever add it in that option
 <Gabumon> 
worst case scenario we add it and nobody votes it
 <smasher> 
anyway yeah just add the whole thing
 <Gabumon> 
then we can just remove it again
 <Lord_Bowser> 
^
 <turb> 
yeah and then we remove it next year if it gets fuck all votes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
"e-Reader Levels (SMA4:SMB3)"?
 <NEXandGBX> 
i can't tell if we traced ourselves back to square 1 or not
 <turb> 
yeah that works
 <Meta_Knight> 
Im in favor adding it in as a whole
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
looks good to me
 <turb> 
I guess a space after the colon
 <turb> 
but that's formatting and doesn't actually matter
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
[s]time to accidentally split it again[/s]
 <Shoe> 
when you guys say whole do you mean all the E-Reader content?
 <Shoe> 
or just the smb4 stuff
 <turb> 
all of the e-reader content in sma4 yes
 <Shoe> 
ok
 <GBAToad> 
tfw want to stare at rocks but also join in the meeting
 <Shoe> 
i'm in favor of that
 <smasher> 
join the meeting of the rocks
 <Lord_Bowser> 
hi gba
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add "e-Reader Levels (SMA4: SMB3)" to M9? (y/n/a)
 <Lord_Bowser> 
y
 <turb> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Shoe> 
y
 <GBAToad> 
y
 <Gamefreak75> 
y
 <smasher> 
y
 <NEXandGBX> 
y
 <Gabumon> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
gr8
 <GBAToad> 
yyyyyyyyyy
 <smasher> 
9-0-0
 <Lakituthequick> 
yee
 <Baby_Luigi> 
y
 <__2257> 
y
 <Shoe> 
man look at gba stuffing the ballot
 <Shoe> 
makes me sick
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
y
 <smasher> 
12-0-0
 <smasher> 
i think this fails
 <__2257> 
i do think it should be phrased as content though
 <GBAToad> 
rip
 <NEXandGBX> 
welcome sma4 e-reader levels to m9 with bibbangs
 <__2257> 
someone might be a fan of the cape feather
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
the other one was what turb suggested, which was also the leading point in the SMM part of the discussion as well
 <turb> 
if it's more than just levels we can phrase it as content
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
"Version 1.4.0 (Super Expert, Course Elements) (SMM)"
 <GBAToad> 
hmm
 <Lord_Bowser> 
course elements feels b
 <GBAToad> 
part of me feels like its not that much but it really was pretty hype at the time
 <turb> 
maybe New Course Elements
 <Lord_Bowser> 
vague
 <turb> 
i did say we could list out all of the elements
 <turb> 
but it would be a long nominee name
 <Lakituthequick> 
not a fan of capitalising every word but otherwise okay wording
 <Lord_Bowser> 
what were the big elements added even
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Was one checkpoints?
 <Baby_Luigi> 
idk never played Super Mario Maker
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i think that was earlier
 <Shoe> 
yeah could we add just big elements to the name if we wanted to add some
 <NEXandGBX> 
checkpoints was added to an update but before 1.4.0
 <Lakituthequick> 
https://www.mariowiki.com/Super_Mario_Maker#Version_1.40
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Yyyyeaaahhh i'm iffy on the whole "course elements" thing
 <Lakituthequick> 
Adds Skewers, locked doors, keys, pink coins
 <Lakituthequick> 
and Super Expert mode
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we want to be clear, but concise, when it comes to the nominee names
 <Baby_Luigi> 
(I don't think anyone applauds Super Expert Mode anyway)
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
the important part is Version 1.4.0 (SMM), the rest is clarification
 <turb> 
i mean super expert was the biggest deal as part of the update
 <turb> 
yeah
 <turb> 
people can google it
 <turb> 
I do feel super expert should at least be there as it was the cornerstone of the update and it might jog more memories than a version number in the event people don't want to look it up
 <turb> 
as edo brought up last meeting
 <Gabumon> 
the argument last meeting was
 <Baby_Luigi> 
why specifically this version instead of say Version 1.30
 <Gabumon> 
that few people will remember what exactly 1.4.0 was
 <smasher> 
i agree that at least super expert should be there
 <turb> 
it seemed like the most relevant update in my view
 <Gabumon> 
but if we attach one noteworthy thing to the nominee
 <Gabumon> 
that will help people remember
 <turb> 
either that or 1.2.0
 <turb> 
i guess 1.20 and 1.40 and I've been formatting it wrong the entire time but who cares
 <turb> 
and yeah i agree with edo in that case
 <Gamefreak75> 
put "(Super expert, etc.)"?
 <smasher> 
i dont know version numbers what was 1.2/1.3
 <NEXandGBX> 
if we only say one thing about 1.4.0 aside from super expert, it'd probably be the keys
 <Gabumon> 
the scenario we want to prevent here is that people ignore the nominee because they dont know what it is
 <Baby_Luigi> 
can't we group all updates into one?
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I agree with that, I was just saying I don't want the entire details of the update to be included in it
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Since they're all free
 <Gabumon> 
"just let them look it up" is not an option because the more clicks it takes to vote, the more people we will lose
 <Shoe> 
I agree with baby luigi
 <Shoe> 
just group all the updates together
 <NEXandGBX> 
that's a good point, but not everyone knows exactly what was added with the updates
 <NEXandGBX> 
thus they'd have to look it up, and it'd lose votes as edo said
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
idk, it's not "favorite game with add-on content"
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we can allow to be more specific
 <Gabumon> 
if the SMM updates are so nebulous that people dont know what they are
 <Gabumon> 
they probably shouldnt be a nominee
 <turb> 
yeah
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yeah
 <smasher> 
yeah
 <Shoe> 
per
 <Lord_Bowser> 
^
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I still don't see why we can't group it as one, since if people download the game like today, they'll receive all of the patches
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
as such, 1.40 doesn't need to be the only nominee
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if you think 1.30 is also good that can be one as well
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Unlike other add-on content, all of the patches are free
 <Stargazing> 
yea i think if we're gonna add them, we group all the add-on content together as one nominee
 <Baby_Luigi> 
They're more nebulous because of that free nature
 <Lakituthequick> 
(side note: costume poll reached nine votes in the meantime, could potentially be covered after this)
 <Baby_Luigi> 
packs that you have to pay for are more distinct and occur less periodically
 <smasher> 
oh shit i guess i better vote on that
 <NEXandGBX> 
i should go vote in that poll
 <Lakituthequick> 
(or after we reach eleven)
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'd still rather cover it next meeting
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I forgot to vote for Bridal Mario on there ~_~
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I want to progress to the 2nd half of Mario Awards
 <smasher> 
i dont know how i feel about this right now so ill just ignore this for a sec
 
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 <turb> 
you can chang-
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
you can change your vote as well
 <turb> 
ok
 <smasher> 
its ok baby luigi im voting bri--ok
 <Lakituthequick> 
(or next week)
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
anyways, let's have a vote on how to proceed with SMM
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Consider the SMM nominee as a group or as individual updates? (group/individual/a)
 
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 <Shoe> 
group
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
blof is a gro---oh she's here to vote herself
 <turb> 
you can change your vote on the poll
 <turb> 
for the costume thing
 <Lord_Bowser> 
group
 <Stargazing> 
g
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Something conked out
 <smasher> 
a
 <turb> 
a
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
20:24 Anton{Politoed} anyways, let's have a vote on how to proceed with SMM 20:24 Anton{Politoed} Vote: Consider the SMM nominee as a group or as individual updates? (group/individual/a)
 <Baby_Luigi> 
a
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
individual
 <Gabumon> 
a
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
a
 <Lakituthequick> 
a
 <turb> 
literally don't give a shit if it means we move on LOL
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Or actually mbe group
 <Gamefreak75> 
g
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I vote '''group''' my bad
 <smasher> 
50-5
 <GBAToad> 
g
 <smasher> 
-
 <smasher> 
help thats wrong
 <Gabumon> 
can we redo the vote but add "ax the nominee" as an option
 <__2257> 
a
 <smasher> 
6-1-6
 <Gabumon> 
because right now the discussion makes me feel inclined more towards that
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
that'll be the next vote
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I just wanted to get a consensus on what people would even be voting for
 <NEXandGBX> 
in that case i'd say group
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
pretty clear people want it as a group, so
 <smasher> 
7-1-6
 <Meta_Knight> 
Group
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add "Super Mario Maker Updates" (name tbd?) in M9? (y/n/a)
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
n
 <Gabumon> 
n
 <turb> 
n
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
n
 <Lakituthequick> 
a
 <Lord_Bowser> 
a
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
if people really really want it that badly
 <GBAToad> 
n
 <Shoe> 
a
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
they can write it in
 <Gamefreak75> 
n
 <NEXandGBX> 
i guess we can see how they do in write-ins and go off of that next year, to see if they're worthy of being added
 <NEXandGBX> 
n
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
and it's too ill-defined and hard to define to be worth the trouble, imo
 <Baby_Luigi> 
a
 <GBAToad> 
im on a beach again lets add sand to all nominees like im adding sand to all my clothes
 <__2257> 
n
 <Baby_Luigi> 
i hate sand
 <Lord_Bowser> 
send me pics gba
 <Lakituthequick> 
Count sand
 <Meta_Knight> 
If they are in id want them grouped but idk add-on content sounds awkward when applied to the smm updates
 <Meta_Knight> 
So n for me
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok gr8 so it's not added
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and with that M9 is closed
 <smasher> 
0-10-4
 <smasher> 
10 because n
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and with that we can continue with Mario Awards
 <smasher> 
goodbye mario maker
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
ded
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
M14 Favorite Species (Goombas, Koopa Troopas, Boos, Shy Guys, Chain Chomps, Bob-ombs, Bullet Bills, Dry Bones, Hammer Bros., Wigglers, Chargin' Chucks, Lakitus, Yoshis, Toads, Lumas, Magikoopas)
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=39682.msg1994578#msg1994578
 <smasher> 
im voting now i just need a fifteenth costume
 <NEXandGBX> 
dead just like the console youre on
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
in my post here is a nice list of new species from SMO
 <smasher> 
someone post results
 <Shoe> 
can we add regular humans
 <Meta_Knight> 
I voted
 <Lakituthequick> 
14) Chargin' Chucks — 33 — 1.45%
 <Lakituthequick> 
15) Bullet Bills — 26 — 1.14%
 <Lakituthequick> 
16) Lakitus — 23 — 1.01%
 <Lakituthequick> 
17) O. Humans — 7 — 0.31%
 <Lakituthequick> 
18) O. Thwomps — 4 — 0.18%
 <Lakituthequick> 
19) O. Beanish — 3 — 0.13%
 <Lakituthequick> 
19) O. Birdos — 3 — 0.13%
 <Lakituthequick> 
19) O. Bloopers — 3 — 0.13%
 <Lakituthequick> 
19) O. Piranha Plants — 3 — 0.13%
 <Gamefreak75> 
add tostarenans
 <turb> 
humans might be more relevant now
 <turb> 
idk though
 <Shoe> 
yeah metro city humans are the best
 <Baby_Luigi> 
eh
 <Lakituthequick> 
My notes say "Add Pokio, T-Rex, Jaxi"
 <turb> 
New Donkers like in that post
 <Gabumon> 
add pokio
 <NEXandGBX> 
should they be referred to as humans, or new donkers?
 <Lakituthequick> 
So those, maybe
 <Lord_Bowser> 
add pokio
 <Baby_Luigi> 
won't they overlap with captures...?
 <smasher> 
add pokio
 <smasher> 
hes cute
 <Shoe> 
i'd support pokio
 <Gabumon> 
they should be referred to as humans, I'd say
 <NEXandGBX> 
pokio's good but we already have that for capture so it's a bit redundant
 <Lakituthequick> 
Pokio is potentially a good candidate judging the reactions
 <turb> 
i'd be more for pokio if it wasn't on capture already
 <Gabumon> 
its not redundant
 <turb> 
not taht there needs to be 100% no overlap
 <turb> 
since its not like
 <Gamefreak75> 
homo nintendinus
 <turb> 
the same type of award
 <Gabumon> 
the capture is for the moveset and how it feels as a controllable entity
 <Shoe> 
I don't think it's redundant
 <Gabumon> 
species is for the creature itself
 <NEXandGBX> 
in that case then yes add pokio
 <Baby_Luigi> 
yeah but since pokios appear only in odyssey, people will judge it based on that
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
how do people feel about the Kingdom races
 <Baby_Luigi> 
the other enemies have their chances to shine in other games
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
are any of those significant enough for anyone to enjoy
 <Lord_Bowser> 
add steam gardeners
 <Lord_Bowser> 
they had great dialogue
 <turb> 
shiverians are cute but idk if any of them are notable except maybe new donkers
 <Lakituthequick> 
the shiverian are pretty
 <Lord_Bowser> 
tostarenans are cute too
 <Lakituthequick> 
cool
 <smasher> 
i dont think its redundant
 <Lakituthequick> 
*ba dum tss*
 <Baby_Luigi> 
i like the snails
 <Gabumon> 
only really care about toastare-however you spell it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we've got limited space
 <turb> 
i'd say Tostarenans if any
 <turb> 
now that i think about it
 <Gabumon> 
snails invented volley ball
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
this award is already at 16 and people want pokio
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
no opinion
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
that leaves us just 1
 <Gabumon> 
they must burn for their sins
 <turb> 
they appeared a whole ton throughout the kingdoms
 <Shoe> 
I mean we can eliminate Lakitu
 <smasher> 
tostarenans are probably good to add
 <turb> 
and people seem to enjoy their designs/dialogue
 <Shoe> 
it got like no votes
 <Baby_Luigi> 
well point taken but aside from that terrible minigame
 <Gabumon> 
it was a joke
 <Meta_Knight> 
Pokio seems too minor compared to the other nominees
 <Baby_Luigi> 
yeah remove lakitu to piss ltq off
 <Gabumon> 
I'm not seriously opposing the snails
 <smasher> 
i sadly agree that lakitu can be cut
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i legit want to add steam gardeners if possible
 <NEXandGBX> 
poor ltq
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
the SMO humans are referred to as New Donkers
 <Lakituthequick> 
:(
 <Meta_Knight> 
Tostarenas id be okay with tho
 <smasher> 
i like steam gardeners lb
 <Baby_Luigi> 
eh
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
https://www.mariowiki.com/Super_Mario_Odyssey#Enemies
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
here's a convenient list
 <Toadbert> 
tfw ur not a new donker
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so to just get it out of the way
 <smasher> 
you will never be a new donker
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add "Pokios" to M14 Favorite Species? (y/n/a)
 <Gabumon> 
y
 <smasher> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Shoe> 
y
 <GBAToad> 
y
 <smasher> 
4-0-0
 <NEXandGBX> 
y
 <smasher> 
5-0-0
 <Lord_Bowser> 
y
 <__2257> 
a
 <turb> 
y
 <GBAToad> 
also g2g staring at outcrop
 <smasher> 
8-0-1
 <Baby_Luigi> 
a
 <Lord_Bowser> 
have fun
 <smasher> 
8-0-2
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
y
 <smasher> 
9-0-2
 <Meta_Knight> 
Y
 <smasher> 
10-0-2
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it's added
 <smasher> 
im so happy for pokio
 <smasher> 
now for toastants
 <Stargazing> 
y
 <Stargazing> 
oh fuck
 <Shoe> 
damn it star
 <smasher> 
11-0-2
 <Lord_Bowser> 
a little unrelated but we still have open award slots right
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
are there any other new species anyone feels passionate about
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
1
 <Shoe> 
new donkers anton
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
oh, full award slots
 <turb> 
tostarenans
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
uhhhhhh
 <smasher> 
new donkers and toastarenans
 <smasher> 
we can kill something
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
"yes" but it's looking to be filled with Favorite Costume
 <NEXandGBX> 
new donkers would be the obvious pick, tostareans can replace lakitus
 <turb> 
nothing from the enemy list
 <Lord_Bowser> 
oh ok
 <Shoe> 
i'd actually prefer to kill bullet bills
 <Baby_Luigi> 
No
 <smasher> 
im ok with killing both honestly
 <smasher> 
if theres a third option people want to add
 <Shoe> 
yeah fuck ltq
 <Lakituthequick> 
>:(
 <Lord_Bowser> 
(steam gardeners smasher)
 <Gabumon> 
I dont have any other species
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Bullet Bills are inferior to Banzai Bills anyway
 <smasher> 
like steam gardeners or shiverians
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok well let's do it this way
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I've seen more people want Tostarenans so
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add "Tostarenans" to M14? (y/n/a)
 <smasher> 
y
 <Baby_Luigi> 
a
 <Gamefreak75> 
y
 <Gabumon> 
a
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Lord_Bowser> 
y
 <Shoe> 
y
 <turb> 
y
 <smasher> 
6-0-2
 <NEXandGBX> 
y
 <smasher> 
7-0-2
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it's added
 <smasher> 
congrats toastant
 <Meta_Knight> 
Y
 <smasher> 
8-0-2
 <NEXandGBX> 
steam gardeners were great, maybe they could perform better than bullet bills but idk
 <Baby_Luigi> 
fiesta
 <Baby_Luigi> 
i don't know about that
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Replace "Lakitus" with "New Donkers" in M14? (y/n/a)
 <smasher> 
y
 <Baby_Luigi> 
y
 <Shoe> 
y
 <Lord_Bowser> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
a
 <turb> 
a
 <smasher> 
4-0-2
 <Stargazing> 
y
 <smasher> 
5-0-2
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ltq now's your cue to begin lakitu propaganda
 <Gabumon> 
dont feel comfortable with that name
 <turb> 
change my mind
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
get top 3 from a write-in slot
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
that's literally what they're called, though
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I think it sounds weird too but that's what it is
 <Shoe> 
yeah isn't that the actual name
 <turb> 
yeah its a really awkward name but I think they're called that on the map screen
 <__2257> 
a
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I think it's fine
 <Lord_Bowser> 
yeah thats the official name
 <smasher> 
5-0-3
 <Gabumon> 
its like
 <Lord_Bowser> 
weird but nothing better
 <Gabumon> 
the designation of where they live
 <Lakituthequick> 
https://www.mariowiki.com/New_Donker
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I don't think it's that strange
 <Gabumon> 
theyre humans
 <Shoe> 
I prefer the name new donker
 <Lord_Bowser> 
thats how all of the names are edo
 <Lakituthequick> 
"New Donkers" is accurate
 <turb> 
new donkers (humans)
 <smasher> 
plot twist theyre a seperate species
 <Gabumon> 
yeah, but thats because we have no other options for the other ones
 <Lakituthequick> 
Also look how there is eight standalone images on that page lol
 <Lord_Bowser> 
the suits and hats are actually part of their bodies
 <smasher> 
in seriousness its kind of weird but i dont really mind it
 <Lord_Bowser> 
they cant remove them
 <smasher> 
yes
 <Lakituthequick> 
"The New Donker in its natural habitat"
 <Baby_Luigi> 
they could be a subspecies of human
 <turb> 
but theres already someone with no hat on......
 <Gabumon> 
I'm gonna go with a
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we've neglected adding Humans as a nominee in the past
 <smasher> 
5-0-4
 <Baby_Luigi> 
homo sapiens donk or whatever
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but I can see this as being a reason to include
 <NEXandGBX> 
with humans people might also count, for example, princess peach even if she is different than the new donkers
 <Shoe> 
I'm fine with either name tbh
 <Gamefreak75> 
favorite species: Italians
 <NEXandGBX> 
but i'm fine with either too
 <Gamefreak75> 
y
 <Gamefreak75> 
btw
 <Gabumon> 
I dont have a problem with them counting peach
 <Lord_Bowser> 
turb its a rare genetic condition
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah there's contradicting information on the wiki
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
like Pauline is considered a New Donker but her species is listed as Human
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
giving Edo's point more weight
 <Shoe> 
I mean princess peach is a mushroom anyways
 <Shoe> 
I've seen her grandmother
 <Shoe> 
smrpg baby
 <Lakituthequick> 
"New Donkers are human characters [..]"
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i'm gonna use my Ultimate Power and scrap this vote
 <Lakituthequick> 
"Related Species: Human"
 <Lord_Bowser> 
maybe make the option Humans/New Donkers ?
 <Baby_Luigi> 
is she acually a new donker?
 <Baby_Luigi> 
because peach rules a land that's populated with toads
 <Shoe> 
I thought she was from Brookyln like mario :P
 <Baby_Luigi> 
so pauline being a...ahem...different species of human ruling over New Donkers isn't that far off
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
"Humans, known as New Donkers, can also be seen in New Donk City from Super Mario Odyssey. "
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
they're humans
 <Gabumon> 
plot twist: brooklyn is actually a subsection of New Donk City
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so
 <NEXandGBX> 
ah alrighty then
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Replace "Lakitus" with "Humans" in M14? (y/n/a)
 <Shoe> 
y
 <Lord_Bowser> 
y
 <NEXandGBX> 
y
 <Baby_Luigi> 
y
 <Gabumon> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
a
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
y
 <Meta_Knight> 
Y
 <Shoe> 
a single tear rolls down ltq's eye
 <__2257> 
a
 <Gamefreak75> 
y
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
y
 <Baby_Luigi> 
lakitu has his chance to shine as a capture at least
 <smasher> 
Y
 <turb> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
the change is made
 <Lakituthequick> 
next thing that happens is they get -4 votes and lakitu returns next year
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and for the final vote
 <Baby_Luigi> 
weird i do expect lakitu to be slightly more popular
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Replace "Bullet Bills" with "Steam Gardeners" in M14? (y/n/a)
 <Shoe> 
y
 <Baby_Luigi> 
because shiggy likes lakitu
 <Lord_Bowser> 
y
 <turb> 
n
 <Baby_Luigi> 
a
 <Lakituthequick> 
a
 <Gabumon> 
whats the reason
 <__2257> 
a
 <NEXandGBX> 
a
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
people thought it was a good idea
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i'm voting N so i'll let them explain
 <Gabumon> 
like, I'm not against it, I just want to hear the case
 <Lakituthequick> 
because steam gardeners are new
 <Shoe> 
LB likes steam gardeners and bullet bill got very few votes
 <NEXandGBX> 
and bullet bills had about as many votes as lakitus did
 <Lakituthequick> 
and bullet bill did second least well
 <Gabumon> 
why steam gardeners over the other guys
 <Lakituthequick> 
aside from writeins of course
 <Lord_Bowser> 
bullet bills have low votes and steam gardeners had good dialogue, imo some of the best npc dialogue
 <turb> 
I can't see steam gardeners doing that well
 <Baby_Luigi> 
what about tostarenians
 <Lord_Bowser> 
its more memorable to me at least
 <turb> 
compared to bullet bill
 <turb> 
already added
 <Lakituthequick> 
we already added those
 <NEXandGBX> 
already added those blof
 <Baby_Luigi> 
oh okay
 <Baby_Luigi> 
i can't read well
 <Stargazing> 
a
 <Baby_Luigi> 
eh bullet bills let you plow through opponents in mario kart
 <Lakituthequick> 
I personally like the Shiverians better
 <Baby_Luigi> 
and very fun t ouse in smash
 <Gabumon> 
right now I'm going to go with a
 <turb> 
^^
 <turb> 
shiverians
 <Lakituthequick> 
than the plants
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
a
 <turb> 
i mean at the same time
 <turb> 
its still opinion based
 <Lakituthequick> 
true
 <turb> 
like
 <Shoe> 
I do love shiverians
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i have a personal vendetta against shiverians cause of bounding
 <Baby_Luigi> 
shiverians are cute
 <Meta_Knight> 
I'm against shiverians
 <Lakituthequick> 
bounding is the thing that makes them fun
 <Shoe> 
they have a good minigame
 <turb> 
I just dont really know that much if steam gardeners would do well compared to the other odyssey species on the award already
 <turb> 
why them instead of bonneters or someone
 <NEXandGBX> 
yeah true
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i hate top hats
 <Lord_Bowser> 
steam gardeners didnt have any shitty minigames they were just cute robots with fun dialogue
 <Meta_Knight> 
I think it there's a more popular species than what's here itll show in writeins
 <Lakituthequick> 
Bonneters are the trademark species yeah
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Bonneters should be on there
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Cappy and all
 <Gabumon> 
oh right
 <Gabumon> 
I agree with that
 <Lakituthequick> 
unvote: a
 <Lakituthequick> 
n
 <Baby_Luigi> 
SO, No
 <Baby_Luigi> 
changing to an n
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i guess bonneters are more notable then
 <smasher> 
I'm busy right now ill say something shortly
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so
 <Lord_Bowser> 
alright ill concede
 <smasher> 
nothing important though
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Replace "Bullet Bills" with "Bonneters" in M14? (y/n/a)
 <Baby_Luigi> 
y
 <Shoe> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Stargazing> 
a
 <turb> 
y
 <Gabumon> 
y
 <smasher> 
y
 <Lord_Bowser> 
y
 <smasher> 
7-0-0
 <turb> 
also
 <turb> 
the bonneter that wants to see the enemies in post-game
 <turb> 
literally the most powerful character in odyssey
 <NEXandGBX> 
y
 <turb> 
I love him
 <smasher> 
i like the gardeners but they probably wouldn't do well
 <Meta_Knight> 
Y
 <Lord_Bowser> 
oh yeah i forgot about him
 <smasher> 
9-0-0
 <Lord_Bowser> 
he was good
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
any other considerations for M14?
 <Lakituthequick> 
that one was funny yeah
 <NEXandGBX> 
nah, this is fine
 <smasher> 
im good
 <Lakituthequick> 
two out, three in
 <Lord_Bowser> 
this is fine.jpg
 <Lakituthequick> 
sounds okay
 <Gabumon> 
lets not add rabbits
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
M15 Hardest Boss (Shadow Queen, Bonetail, Cackletta's Soul, Culex, Elder Princess Shroob, Bowser (Paper Mario), Bowser X (Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story), Smithy, The Master (Final Form), Dreamy Bowser, Phantamanta, Boolossus, Kamek and Paper Kamek)
 <smasher> 
ban rabbits
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
this is at 13 so we've got space
 <NEXandGBX> 
12) Kamek and Paper Kamek — 61 — 3.02%
 <NEXandGBX> 
13) Smithy — 50 — 2.47%
 <Lakituthequick> 
10) Bowser (PM) — 87 — 4.30%
 <Lakituthequick> 
11) The Master (Final Form) — 77 — 3.81%
 <Lakituthequick> 
12) Kamek and Paper Kamek — 61 — 3.02%
 <Lakituthequick> 
13) Smithy — 50 — 2.47%
 <Lakituthequick> 
14) O. Bowser in the Fire Sea — 7 — 0.35%
 <Lakituthequick> 
15) O. Black Bowser — 6 — 0.30%
 <Lakituthequick> 
16) O. Dark Bowser — 5 — 0.25%
 <NEXandGBX> 
14) O. Bowser in the Fire Sea — 7 — 0.35%
 <NEXandGBX> 
15) O. Black Bowser — 6 — 0.30%
 <Lakituthequick> 
woop
 <Shoe> 
Cloud N Candy obviously
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Should this be renamed to hardest RPG Boss?
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Broodals (Topper, Hariet, Spewart, Rango, Madame Broode)
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Kingdom Bosses (Madame Broode, Knucklotec, Torkdrift, Bowser, Mechawiggler, Mollusque-Lanceur, Cookatiel, Ruined Dragon, RoboBrood)
 <smasher> 
no removals at least
 <NEXandGBX> 
it's not necessarily exclusive to rpgs
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i always thought it was like
 <Lord_Bowser> 
the only like hard smo boss i remember was robobrood
 <Gabumon> 
I guess the problem is that Mario platformers dont have that many hard bosses
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
it's not exclusive
 <turb> 
does the ruined dragon have a different name
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
but the platformers - yeah
 <Lakituthequick> 
Ruined Dragon fits on underwhelming
 <NEXandGBX> 
but i can't think of any bosses from oddysey that was that hard
 <turb> 
oh it's lor dof lightning
 <Lakituthequick> 
Ruined Dragon is called that
 <turb> 
yeah he wouldn't be on this award anyway
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
mario platformers always tend to put their difficulty in levels
 <turb> 
robobrood was the closest to a hard boss
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Any platformer boss that WAS hard was because of artifical fail conditions
 <Lakituthequick> 
Lord of Lighting is a nickname of sorts i guess
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
with bosses being easy by comparision
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
in general, or
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Like Bouldergeist with the Daredevil limit
 <turb> 
Mollusque-Lanceur was sssssssort of hard
 <Lord_Bowser> 
ehhhhhh not really
 <Lakituthequick> 
not hard, but he was unique
 <Lord_Bowser> 
his rematch was a joke
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah I had a tough time with that one but it was more like
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
in terms of executing the attack
 <turb> 
yeah
 <Gabumon> 
like, the only kind of tricky boss fight I can think of is the dark side of the moon, but thats only because its a marathon
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if people want to consider that as a factor in "Hard"
 <smasher> 
idk what to add if anything
 <turb> 
i mean isn't that sort of what phantamanta is
 <Lakituthequick> 
did you know that he is the only boss with an 8-bit version of his theme
 <turb> 
difficulty in actually executing things
 <Lord_Bowser> 
the only smo boss id legit consider is robobrood tbh
 <Lakituthequick> 
its neat
 <Lord_Bowser> 
the others werent really hard for me at least
 <Lakituthequick> 
robobrood isn't that hard
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I don't think Robobrood is hard at all
 <Lakituthequick> 
more glimicky if anything
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Hammer Bros. were harder than pretty much every boss fight in SMO
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i do remember a lot of people saying robobrood was hard
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Also, bosses get shredded in 2-player mod, especially the Broodals. I don't think any other Mario platformer has two players shredding bosses in the same manner as Galaxy
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I mean Odyssey
 <Baby_Luigi> 
god
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I know a lot of people had a tough time with Knuckletoc
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Anyway, I saw my twin beat up Robobrood, they weren't hard for her
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I did take a lot of damage from him and lost once so I don't doubt it
 <Lakituthequick> 
Knuckletoc, good one
 <Lakituthequick> 
him i would consider
 <NEXandGBX> 
knuckletoc rematch was hard but not hard enough for this award probably
 <Lord_Bowser> 
mechawiggler possibly...?
 <Baby_Luigi> 
i'm not sure lumping platformer battles alongside RPG ones is a good idea
 <Meta_Knight> 
Brb
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we don't have to remove anything so we could see how it performs
 <Lakituthequick> 
oh, it's with an e
 
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 <Lakituthequick> 
Knucklotec
 <turb> 
knucklotec was kind of silly yeah
 <turb> 
if we don't have to do removals theres no risk in adding stuff
 <Shoe> 
i'd support hammergod
 <Shoe> 
handgod
 <turb> 
also, boolossus and phantamanta are already here
 <Baby_Luigi> 
i don't think any of the bosses in odysssey stood out as hard
 <turb> 
and i think they deserve to be on there
 <Shoe> 
i got my ass kicked as robot wiggler
 <Shoe> 
but i'm bad at games
 <Gabumon> 
actually a hidden committee is evaluating us and we're judged harshly for any superfluous or pointless nominee
 <Baby_Luigi> 
yeah but...i just think it's strange to have 80% rpg bosses and have like 2 platformer ones
 <turb> 
just means the rpgs have the majority of the difficulty
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add "Knucklotec" to M15 Hardest Boss? (y/n/a)
 <Shoe> 
Shadow queen isn't hard btw
 <Shoe> 
y
 <Lord_Bowser> 
a
 <NEXandGBX> 
a
 <Baby_Luigi> 
n
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
a
 <turb> 
y
 <Gabumon> 
a
 <smasher> 
a
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
y
 <__2257> 
a
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i'll add that it was one of the only fun boss fights as well
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
mechawiggler made me gay
 <smasher> 
4-1-6
 <Lord_Bowser> 
is that a good or bad thing
 <Lakituthequick> 
also
 <Lakituthequick> 
Knucklotec original or Knucklotec revanch
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
that's a good consideration actually
 <Lord_Bowser> 
what was different in the rematch
 <Lakituthequick> 
revanch has undeader tostarenans in the mix
 <Lord_Bowser> 
idr
 <turb> 
I thought it was tricky enough in the original but yeah i guess a specification wouldn't hurt
 <Baby_Luigi> 
could it encompass both that option?
 <Gabumon> 
zombies iirc
 <turb> 
yeah zombies
 <Lord_Bowser> 
those were cute
 <Gabumon> 
the zombies were harder than the boss
 <Lakituthequick> 
cute, but annoying af
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I don't see an official name for it but it's not like it'd be the first of its kind in our awards like that
 <Lord_Bowser> 
yeah i guess specify rematch then
 <turb> 
tthere might be a moon name for it
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Why can't it encompass both?
 <Gabumon> 
for some reason I think the one I struggled with was the flower sucking thing rematch
 <turb> 
oh yeah fuck that
 <Lakituthequick> 
moon name: "Tussle in Tostarena: Rematch"
 <Gamefreak75> 
ruined dragon rematch was hardest for mes
 <Gamefreak75> 
fuck ice physics
 <Lakituthequick> 
that was pretty random
 <Lord_Bowser> 
torkdrift has a lit battle theme btw
 <Lord_Bowser> 
the flower ufo
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm satisfied with just making it like
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Knucklotec rematch
 <turb> 
people will get knucklotec rematch more than the moon nam e i think
 <Lord_Bowser> 
yeah
 <NEXandGBX> 
yeah
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Torkdrift is that thing that uses those high-pitched mechanical stock sound effects that I first heard in an MSB video game
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i'll redo the vote now that this is specific
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add "Knucklotec rematch" to M15 Hardest Boss? (y/n/a)
 <turb> 
y
 <Gabumon> 
a
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yyyyyyyyy
 <Baby_Luigi> 
a
 <Shoe> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
other hard bosses sometimes add stuff like "Final Form" so "rematch" makes sense
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
this is also one of the only rematches I did so I can't place an opinion on the others if any of those were also tough
 <__2257> 
a
 <NEXandGBX> 
y
 <Gamefreak75> 
y
 <Lord_Bowser> 
y
 <Stargazing> 
a
 <smasher> 
a
 <NEXandGBX> 
i didn't have many other rematch ails
 <Lakituthequick> 
molusque only got easier so not him at least
 <smasher> 
7-0-5
 <Lord_Bowser> 
some of the rematches were easier than the originals
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i'll add this
 <Shoe> 
I didn't do any rematches
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i.e. mollosque-lanceur mollosque-lanceur, robobrood
 <Lord_Bowser> 
w
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
a
 <smasher> 
i haven't done many rematches
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
are there any others people are jonesin' to vote Yes on for this
 <Lakituthequick> 
Anton{Politoed}: maybe put "rematch" between brackets
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if there's no others that people want to vote for we can move on
 <Gabumon> 
remember before luigis balloon funtimes when you had to grind coins by doing that vine thing in bowser land over and over again
 <Gabumon> 
does capitalism count as a boss
 <Baby_Luigi> 
yes
 <turb> 
oh my god
 <Baby_Luigi> 
idk if my twin had any coin grinding issues
 <Lakituthequick> 
it can't kill you so ...
 <Baby_Luigi> 
yes it could
 <Lakituthequick> 
how
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
M16 Favorite Item (Tanooki Suit, Super Leaf (3D games), Super Star, Fire Flower, Mega Mushroom, Metal Cap, Wing Cap, Bullet Bill, Propeller Mushroom, Penguin Suit, Cloud Flower, Cape Feather, Gold Flower, Super Bell, Double Cherry, Super Horn, Mystery Mushroom)
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Items and Collectibles (Hearts and Life-Up Hearts; Moon Shards, Multi Moons, and Power Moons)
 <Lakituthequick> 
14) Bullet Bill — 75 — 3.35%
 <Lakituthequick> 
15) Cloud Flower — 68 — 3.04%
 <Lakituthequick> 
16) Super Leaf (3D games) — 67 — 3.00%
 <Lakituthequick> 
17) Super Horn — 65 — 2.91%
 <Lakituthequick> 
18) O. Ice Flower — 14 — 0.63%
 <Lakituthequick> 
19) O. Hammer Suit — 12 — 0.54%
 <Lakituthequick> 
20) O. Blue Shell — 11 — 0.49%
 <Lakituthequick> 
21) O. Red Star — 8 — 0.36%
 <Lord_Bowser> 
!skip
 <Shoe> 
who voted for red star
 <Gabumon> 
mixing powerups with mario kart items
 <Shoe> 
get out of here
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Bullet Bill is freaking fun to use in Mario Kart and Smash didn't deserve to be so low
 <NEXandGBX> 
nothing i can think of
 <Stargazing> 
yeah there isn't much here i don't think
 <Gabumon> 
hueggh
 <Gamefreak75> 
rip super horn :'(
 <turb> 
Super Star is specifically the mario kart item/invincibility item i guess
 <smasher> 
i wouldnt do anything
 <turb> 
power star is the collectible
 <turb> 
so power moons probably dont need to b eon
 <Gamefreak75> 
skip tbh
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i agree
 <Gabumon> 
hmmm
 <Gabumon> 
some of these are powerups that change the way you progress through a level
 <Gabumon> 
would the scooter count as an item
 <Shoe> 
i'd say it does
 <turb> 
probably
 <Shoe> 
i'd support scooter
 <smasher> 
possibly
 <__2257> 
if were looking for new nominees, the rocket flower
 <turb> 
oh yeah
 <Lakituthequick> 
rocket flowers are fun
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Scooter is like riding a Koopa Shell in 64, right?
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I literally hated that but it is an item
 <Lakituthequick> 
also deadly
 <Lakituthequick> 
Baby_Luigi: not really
 <__2257> 
i wasnt actually a fan either
 <smasher> 
oh yeah i forgot rocket flowers
 <__2257> 
but its a new item
 <smasher> 
i dont really like them either though
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Are vehicles like scooter even items...?
 <turb> 
you can stop on scooters
 <turb> 
cant stop on koopa shell iirc
 <Lord_Bowser> 
does anyone like rocket flowers though tbh
 <Lakituthequick> 
yes
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i dont imagine itd get much votes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we're at 17 nominees as well
 <NEXandGBX> 
yeah, i wouldn't say any of the items odyssey introduced are major enough to be on here
 <Lakituthequick> 
regional coins?
 <Lord_Bowser> 
no those were a pain to find
 <Gabumon> 
thats more like a currency
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
well
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i'm content with moving on unless anyone feels passionate about Motor Scooter or Rocket Flower
 <Lakituthequick> 
ye
 <Gabumon> 
I feel very passionate about motor scooters
 <Gabumon> 
I'm Hot Rod Mario
 <Baby_Luigi> 
idk to me rocket flower is just a glorified dash pepper
 <smasher> 
im not 100% on scooters and i dont really like rocket flowers
 <Lakituthequick> 
dash peppers required yoshi right
 <smasher> 
id abstain from the former and oppose the latter
 <__2257> 
i mean it is
 <Lakituthequick> 
otherwise !continue
 
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add "Motor Scooters" to M16 Favorite Item? (y/n/a)
 <__2257> 
but weve also got tanooki suit and super leaf, which are literally the same item
 <turb> 
I'd be fine with taking scooters to a vote if thats what everyone else is up for but i dont want flowers
 <turb> 
gr8
 <Baby_Luigi> 
n
 <turb> 
y
 <NEXandGBX> 
n
 <smasher> 
a
 <__2257> 
a
 <Gabumon> 
y
 <Shoe> 
y
 <Meta_Knight> 
Y
 <Lakituthequick> 
n
 <smasher> 
4-3-2
 <Lord_Bowser> 
a
 <smasher> 
4-3-3
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh y
 <Meta_Knight> 
Whats the context of each side
 <smasher> 
this is still kind of inconclusive
 <NEXandGBX> 
actually, i guess i'll swap to a
 <smasher> 
im not really 100% if it fully counts
 <Gamefreak75> 
y
 <NEXandGBX> 
scooters were involved in some neat moons
 <smasher> 
6-2-3
 <smasher> 
6-2-4*
 <Gabumon> 
remember how much of a pain in the ass the scooter challenge on the dark side of the moon was without the scooter
 <Gabumon> 
scooters are your friend
 <Meta_Knight> 
Yes
 <smasher> 
i dont remember if i did that
 <Gabumon> 
they make Mario's life better
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if this is all of the votes we're adding it
 <Lakituthequick> 
i haven't actually played far into darker side yet
 <Lord_Bowser> 
eh fine y
 <smasher> 
7-2-3
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it passes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
anything else for M16?
 <Lord_Bowser> 
not from me
 <smasher> 
advance
 <Baby_Luigi> 
no
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
M17 Favorite Mario RPG (Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars, Paper Mario, Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time, Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, Super Paper Mario, Paper Mario: Sticker Star, Mario & Luigi: Dream Team, Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Bros. Edition,
 <Meta_Knight> 
Hats /s
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam, Paper Mario: Color Splash)
 <Lakituthequick> 
9) Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam — 108 — 4.71%
 <Lakituthequick> 
10) Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time — 103 — 4.49%
 <Lakituthequick> 
11) Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Bros. Edition — 43 — 1.87%
 <Lakituthequick> 
12) Paper Mario: Sticker Star — 28 — 1.22%
 <Lord_Bowser> 
skip
 <NEXandGBX> 
mario + rabbids
 <__2257> 
rabbits
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Fucking hell Partners in Time is so low
 <Lord_Bowser> 
was that really an rpg?
 <Meta_Knight> 
Mario and rabbids feels fair to add
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i thought it was a strategy game
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Yes it sorta is
 <NEXandGBX> 
no other changes need to be made, since we're in no cramp in space
 <Meta_Knight> 
Rpg is just role playing game and isn't it a tactical rpg
 <Gabumon> 
Cant give any input
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm content with just auto-adding it
 <Meta_Knight> 
I havent played it myself yet though
 <__2257> 
im pretty sure its an rpg
 <smasher> 
i have it
 <__2257> 
at least as much as puzzle & dragons was
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
this has 12 nominees, is all-inclusive, and it's literally designated as a role-playing game
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i need to get to playing it
 <Stargazing> 
if it's a tactical rpg i see no reason to not add it
 <Gamefreak75> 
just add it
 <smasher> 
i havent played much of it but i would say it count
 <smasher> 
s
 <__2257> 
probably more than color splash is
 <Lakituthequick> 
"Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle"
 <Baby_Luigi> 
it has all of the elements of an rpg in it
 <smasher> 
so auto-add it
 <Lakituthequick> 
(for ya copy-paste)
 <Lord_Bowser> 
well if its literally classified as an rpg might as well add
 <__2257> 
considering color splash was literally marketed as an action game
 <Meta_Knight> 
I agree with adding it
 <Baby_Luigi> 
turn-based, stats, skill trees, equipment
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
anything else for this award?
 <Gabumon> 
do you level up
 <Baby_Luigi> 
i think power orbs are a form of exp
 <Meta_Knight> 
Yes
 <smasher> 
i think so
 <Baby_Luigi> 
according to what i read
 <Meta_Knight> 
Pretty sure you get exp anyway
 <Meta_Knight> 
And you have different party members
 <Meta_Knight> 
Each with abilities
 <__2257> 
you do get exp but i dont think theres like a global level counter
 <Baby_Luigi> 
and there's a story
 <__2257> 
theres a skill tree instead
 <Meta_Knight> 
And it's Turn based to advance
 <__2257> 
and you pick where to invest the points
 <Gabumon> 
well, does getting exp have an effect on your stats
 <Baby_Luigi> 
the skill tree is basically just another version of upgrading your stats
 <__2257> 
yes
 <Baby_Luigi> 
well you get new abilities
 <__2257> 
its like skyrim
 <Gabumon> 
yeah, add it then
 <Baby_Luigi> 
so...technically yes
 <Lord_Bowser> 
yeah ok autoadd
 <Lord_Bowser> 
else !skip
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
anything else?
 <Baby_Luigi> 
skrap
 <Meta_Knight> 
Should we merge superstar saga with the remake
 <Gabumon> 
nothing I'm gonna get a majority on, lol
 <Baby_Luigi> 
...I guess
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
does the remake have a new name
 <Baby_Luigi> 
+Bowser's Minions
 <Lakituthequick> 
good question
 <Lakituthequick> 
the remakes
 <Baby_Luigi> 
original name + Bowser's Minions
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so we can woolly world this
 <Baby_Luigi> 
it's a mouthful to type I'm too freaking lazy to add this
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
"Yoshi's Woolly World/Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World"
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions
 <Baby_Luigi> 
That's the name of the remake
 <Lakituthequick> 
wooly worlding is now a verb
 <Meta_Knight> 
I don't think it's substantial enough to be its own nominee but it should be included somehow
 <Lakituthequick> 
you heard it here first folks
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i support combining thrm
 <NEXandGBX> 
per
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i'll just plop it on
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I think we should group it together yes
 <Meta_Knight> 
That's what i was thinking too
 <Lakituthequick> 
when does jr's story release again
 <Baby_Luigi> 
2019
 <NEXandGBX> 
2019
 <Lakituthequick> 
pfffts
 <Baby_Luigi> 
We'll handle it next year
 <Lakituthequick> 
how does a game with shown footage release next year and smash this year without
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
M18 Favorite Mario Party Game (Mario Party, Mario Party 2, Mario Party 3, Mario Party 4, Mario Party 5, Mario Party 6, Mario Party Advance, Mario Party 7, Mario Party DS, Mario Party 8, Mario Party 9, Mario Party: Island Tour, Mario Party 10, Mario Party: Star Rush)
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Probably saving it for E3
 <Lakituthequick> 
11) Mario Party — 85 — 3.88%
 <Lakituthequick> 
12) Mario Party: Star Rush — 82 — 3.74%
 <Lakituthequick> 
13) Mario Party: Island Tour — 46 — 2.10%
 <Lakituthequick> 
14) Mario Party Advance — 21 — 0.96%
 <NEXandGBX> 
top 100 i guess?
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Add The Top 100
 <smasher> 
top 100
 <Meta_Knight> 
Per
 <smasher> 
done
 <Lord_Bowser> 
tt100 autoadd
 <__2257> 
is that out already
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Yeah
 <__2257> 
wow
 <__2257> 
fast
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Featured that motherfreaking article in like 2 weeks
 <Lakituthequick> 
it released december
 <Meta_Knight> 
It was out since November
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if that's it, moving on
 <Baby_Luigi> 
It had one of the shortest timespans between telease and announcement
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
M19 Favorite Actor (Lou Albano (Mario, DIC cartoons), Danny Wells (Luigi, DIC cartoons), Charles Martinet (Mario; Luigi; various), Mercedes Rose (Rosalina, 2007-2010), Laura Faye Smith (Rosalina, 2011-present), Kenneth W. James (Bowser, 2005-present), Samantha Kelly (Princess Peach; Toad; various), Deanna Mustard (Princess Daisy, 2003-present),
 <NEXandGBX> 
15) John Leguizamo (Luigi, Super Mario Bros. film) — 24 — 1.17%
 <NEXandGBX> 
16) Dennis Hopper (President Koopa, Super Mario Bros. film) — 17 — 0.83%
 <NEXandGBX> 
17) Takashi Nagasako (Donkey Kong, 2004-present) — 10 — 0.49%
 <NEXandGBX> 
18) O. Nate Bihldorff (Shy Guy) — 3 — 0.15%
 <NEXandGBX> 
19) O. Tony Rosato (Luigi, DIC cartoons) — 2 — 0.10%
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
plz wait
 <Meta_Knight> 
Paulines va
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Isaac Marshall (Toad, Mario Kart 64), Leslie Swan (Princess Peach, Super Mario 64; Mona), Kazumi Totaka (Yoshi, 1997-present; Professor E. Gadd), Jen Taylor (Princess Peach, 1999-2007), Grant Kirkhope (Donkey Kong, 1999-2004), Takashi Nagasako (Donkey Kong, 2004-present), Bob Hoskins (Mario, Super Mario Bros. film),
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
John Leguizamo (Luigi, Super Mario Bros. film), Dennis Hopper (President Koopa, Super Mario Bros. film))
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Kate Higgins?
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
how crushingly did martinet and the other top ones win
 <Lakituthequick> 
15) John Leguizamo (Luigi, Super Mario Bros. film) — 24 — 1.17%
 <Lakituthequick> 
16) Dennis Hopper (President Koopa, Super Mario Bros. film) — 17 — 0.83%
 <Lakituthequick> 
17) Takashi Nagasako (Donkey Kong, 2004-present) — 10 — 0.49%
 <Lakituthequick> 
18) O. Nate Bihldorff (Shy Guy) — 3 — 0.15%
 <Lakituthequick> 
19) O. Tony Rosato (Luigi, DIC cartoons) — 2 — 0.10%
 <NEXandGBX> 
1105 vs 133
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I have “Kate Higgins (Pauline, 2017-present)” in my notes yeah
 <NEXandGBX> 
for 1st vs 2nd
 <Lakituthequick> 
plus a whole bunch in 20th
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
hmm
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
what did 2nd through 5th look like
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RsocZ6s-whVG__FrTqGK_CVeDPOJiAVeYBB-7aat2oo/edit#
 <Lakituthequick> 
1) Charles Martinet (Mario; Luigi; various) — 1105 — 53.64%
 <Lakituthequick> 
2) Lou Albano (Mario, DIC cartoons) — 133 — 6.46%
 <Lakituthequick> 
3) Kazumi Totaka (Yoshi, 1997-present; Professor E. Gadd) — 124 — 6.02%
 <Lakituthequick> 
4) Kenneth W. James (Bowser, 2005-present) — 90 — 4.37%
 <Lakituthequick> 
5) Mercedes Rose (Rosalina, 2007-2010) — 85 — 4.13%
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
oh thanks
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
alrighty! in that case i won't propose cutting this award
 <Lakituthequick> 
cutting?
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i don't think any of the writeins are good enough to add vote-wise
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah I'm _ on martinet consuming 53% of the vote, but
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
__________
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
well, my feeling is
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we expected it
 <Gamefreak75> 
martinet wouldve gotten 100% if you put waluigi as one of hi roles
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
martinet winning was Inevitable
 <Lakituthequick> 
how about pauline's voice actor
 <Gabumon> 
is Kate Higgins the singing voice too?
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I think so
 <Meta_Knight> 
Yes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yes
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
but as long as the stuff below it is still kinda interesting i'm willing to give it another year
 <Lakituthequick> 
yes
 <Gabumon> 
ok
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
if it was huge gaps between everyone and clearly going to stay that way (see: favorite kong) that'd be different
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we're at 17 nominees
 <Meta_Knight> 
I think we should keep it and add Kate higgins, and if we have to cut someone we can
 <Gabumon> 
so uh, strange question:
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
also i support stuffing higgins in and either going to hard cap or cutting nagasako
 <NEXandGBX> 
per mk
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I support ading Higgins
 <Lakituthequick> 
i don't really like cutting nagasako because donkey kong though
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
?
 <Lakituthequick> 
hopper on the other hand
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Same here
 <smasher> 
add higgins
 <Lakituthequick> 
and yeah add higgins
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i mean he was the worst-performing nominee
 <Gabumon> 
since the two lyrical songs are kind of a big deal for oddyssey, and the songs are available in both english and japanese, do we include the japanese va as well?
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
why should "becasue dk" change that
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Will our audience know the Japanese VA for Odyssey...?
 <Gabumon> 
we can put that info in the brackets
 <Gabumon> 
its just that her voice is in the english version as well
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
we could list is as Aimi Mukohara (Pauline [Japanese], 2017-present)
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
*list it
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I mean we don't even have an article on her here
 <Meta_Knight> 
That's a good point and since we have the info i think its valid
 <turb> 
the brackets thing sounds fine
 <Gabumon> 
you probably should then
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
that sounds more like something that should be made
 <Meta_Knight> 
We'd have to cut someone else too but i dont see why we can't have both
 <Meta_Knight> 
Some people prefer japanese to english and vice versa
 <Lakituthequick> 
the japanese songs are also good
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok we can do this like how we did Species, so
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add "Kate Higgins (Pauline, 2017-present)" to M19 Favorite Actor? (y/n/a)
 <Baby_Luigi> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
i don't understand it obvs but they sound good
 <Gabumon> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Lord_Bowser> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
y
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
y
 <__2257> 
y
 <NEXandGBX> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
gr8\
 <Lord_Bowser> 
yknow if anyone has a shot to topple martinet its kate
 <Baby_Luigi> 
idk
 <smasher> 
y
 <turb> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Remove "Takashi Nagasako (Donkey Kong, 2004-present)" and replace it with "Aimi Mukohara (Pauline [Japanese], 2017-present)"? (y/n/a)
 <Gabumon> 
like if there was a clear divide between english and japanese versions of the game in terms of that voice, I wouldnt consider the inclusion
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
topple, i don't think so
 <smasher> 
10-0-0
 <Meta_Knight> 
Y
 <Lakituthequick> 
come a bit near, maybe
 <NEXandGBX> 
a
 <Baby_Luigi> 
a
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Stargazing> 
a
 <Gabumon> 
but you can access the japanese lyrics while playing the english version
 <Shoe> 
a
 <smasher> 
a
 <Gabumon> 
y
 <Lord_Bowser> 
y
 <__2257> 
y
 <smasher> 
6-0-5
 <turb> 
y
 <Meta_Knight> 
Y
 <smasher> 
you already voted mk
 <smasher> 
7-0-5
 <Meta_Knight> 
My first vote was for the first calling lol
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ballot stuffing
 <Gabumon> 
one was the english mk, the other was the japanese mk
 <smasher> 
oh ok
 <Meta_Knight> 
I support both being in
 <Meta_Knight> 
Yah I'm on mobile so I'm slow
 <smasher> 
switching to y so 9-0-
 <smasher> 
3
 <smasher> 
or 4
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
the deed is done
 <smasher> 
i dont know counting
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
any other considerations for M19?
 <smasher> 
no
 <Gabumon> 
the guy who says "I just want to die"
 <Lakituthequick> 
add me for dubbing steamed hams
 <Lord_Bowser> 
^^^^^^^^^^^
 <Baby_Luigi> 
yes him
 <Lakituthequick> 
(skip)
 <Gabumon> 
this guy appears in shops
 <Gabumon> 
so it relates back to how capitalism can kill you in SMO
 <Baby_Luigi> 
i told you
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
M20 Favorite Sports Game (Mario Tennis (N64), Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour, Mario Power Tennis, Mario Superstar Baseball, Mario Strikers Charged, Mario Hoops 3-on-3, Mario Sports Mix, Super Mario Strikers, Mario Super Sluggers, Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games, Mario Tennis Open, Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games, Mario Golf: World Tour,
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash, Mario Sports Superstars)
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
aces obvs
 <Lakituthequick> 
13) Mario Golf: World Tour — 79 — 3.97%
 <Lakituthequick> 
14) Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash — 43 — 2.16%
 <Lakituthequick> 
15) Mario Tennis Open — 40 — 2.01%
 <Lakituthequick> 
16) O. Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games — 9 — 0.45%
 <Lakituthequick> 
17) O. Mario Golf (N64) — 5 — 0.25%
 <Lakituthequick> 
18) O. Mario Golf Advance Tour — 4 — 0.20%
 <Lakituthequick> 
18) O. Mario Tennis (GBC) — 4 — 0.20%
 <Lakituthequick> 
18) O. Mario Tennis: Power Tour — 4 — 0.20%
 <NEXandGBX> 
if aces will be out in time add it, else skip
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Mario Tennis Aces
 <turb> 
whens aces coming out
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
SPORTS!!
 <Baby_Luigi> 
June iirc
 <turb> 
ok shit it on there
 <smasher> 
youre shopping and some guy just tells you he wants to die
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
that's my life in a nutshell
 <Baby_Luigi> 
June 22, 2018
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Mario Tennis Aces
 <smasher> 
im sorry
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
polls open June 17th
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so technically after
 <Stargazing> 
hmm
 <turb> 
haven't we done that before
 <smasher> 
five days after
 <turb> 
with game & wario
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but it's close enough and within the first week of voting for me to allow it
 <turb> 
came out slightly after polls
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yeah
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah
 <Gabumon> 
we could add it anyway
 <smasher> 
id say just add it anyway
 <Lord_Bowser> 
add it regardless
 <smasher> 
its close enough
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Some people will probably already own it at that time
 <Stargazing> 
yeah, i think we should add it
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Review copys and all
 <Stargazing> 
no, it's 22 internati- ah
 <Baby_Luigi> 
And if there's another Superstar Saga incident....where the game accidentally gets leaked early...
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Or was it Color Splash
 <Lakituthequick> 
color splash yeah
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
anything else for this award?
 <Baby_Luigi> 
nope
 <Lord_Bowser> 
nope
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
M21 Favorite Puzzle Game (Dr. Mario (series), Tetris Attack, Yoshi's Cookie, Wario's Woods, Mario's Picross, Yoshi, Donkey Kong (Game Boy)/Mario vs. Donkey Kong (GBA), Mario vs. Donkey Kong (2 and onwards), DK: King of Swing/DK: Jungle Climber, Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker, Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Bros. Edition)
 <Lakituthequick> 
8) Yoshi — 61 — 2.98%
 <Lakituthequick> 
9) Mario's Picross — 51 — 2.49%
 <Lakituthequick> 
10) Yoshi's Cookie — 47 — 2.29%
 <Lakituthequick> 
11) DK: King of Swing/DK: Jungle Climber — 39 — 1.90%
 <Lakituthequick> 
12) O. Mario's Super Picross — 1 — 0.05%
 <Lakituthequick> 
12) O. Wrecking Crew — 1 — 0.05%
 <__2257> 
huh star
 <Baby_Luigi> 
skip
 <NEXandGBX> 
seems like a skip
 <Lakituthequick> 
(no more writeins)
 <Stargazing> 
oh no 22 i'm referring to aces release date
 <Stargazing> 
june 22nd
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Treasure Tracker will receive a Switch port but
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Yeah
 <__2257> 
ok
 <Stargazing> 
will it be out in time
 <Baby_Luigi> 
just enough
 <Gabumon> 
if its a port
 <Gabumon> 
does it matter
 <Lakituthequick> 
it will include a few extra levels
 <Baby_Luigi> 
no
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
not unless it's got a new name
 <Lakituthequick> 
like new donk city
 <NEXandGBX> 
it has odyssey stages but otherwise it's a port
 <smasher> 
id just skip
 <Meta_Knight> 
Hang on a sec
 
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 <smasher> 
unless it has a new name, which i dont think t does
 <Baby_Luigi> 
it doesn't
 <Lakituthequick> 
it doesn't
 <Lakituthequick> 
just like tropical freeze
 <smasher> 
ok
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
gr8
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
M22 Favorite Battle Course (Battle Course 1 (SNES), Skyscraper, Block Fort (N64), Battle Course 4 (GBA), Pipe Plaza, Luigi's Mansion, Nintendo DS, Twilight House, Delfino Pier, Funky Stadium, Honeybee Hive, Battle Stadium, Dragon Palace, Lunar Colony, Urchin Underpass)
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
>implying New Funky Mode isn't a name
 <Lakituthequick> 
13) Honeybee Hive — 36 — 1.75%
 <Lakituthequick> 
14) Battle Stadium — 33 — 1.61%
 <Lakituthequick> 
15) Battle Course 4 (GBA) — 25 — 1.22%
 <Lakituthequick> 
16) O. Wuhu Town — 22 — 1.07%
 <Lakituthequick> 
17) O. Block Plaza — 10 — 0.49%
 <Lakituthequick> 
17) O. Cookie Land — 10 — 0.49%
 <Lakituthequick> 
17) O. Chain Chomp Roulette — 10 — 0.49%
 <Lord_Bowser> 
!skip
 <Baby_Luigi> 
skip
 <Lord_Bowser> 
oh actually
 <NEXandGBX> 
replace battle course 4 with wuhu town
 
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 <Lord_Bowser> 
add wuhu town then
 <Lakituthequick> 
wuhu has a fair share of write ins really
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah that's a good amount over the next one, and fairly close to an actual nominee
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i like this changeover
 <smasher> 
i think wapping wuhu and bc4 would be fair
 <Baby_Luigi> 
k then
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm up for a full swap unless anyone really hates that idea a lot
 <smasher> 
theyre pretty close together
 <Lord_Bowser> 
it has further relevance now thanks to mk8d at least
 <Lakituthequick> 
yes, swap
 <NEXandGBX> 
almost as much as bc4 with wuhu being a write in and bc4 being an entry is grounds for replacement
 <smasher> 
and wuhu town has potential to do much better if it gets that many writens
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Replace "Battle Course 4 (GBA)" with "Wuhu Town"? (y/n/a)
 <smasher> 
y
 <Baby_Luigi> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
y
 <Shoe> 
y
 <NEXandGBX> 
y
 <Gabumon> 
a
 <smasher> 
6-0-1
 <turb> 
y
 <smasher> 
7-0-1
 <Lord_Bowser> 
y
 <smasher> 
8-0-1
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
the deed is done
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
any other considerations?
 <smasher> 
9-0-1 final score
 <NEXandGBX> 
block plaza is only 10 so nah
 <smasher> 
i have none
 <Lord_Bowser> 
nah
 <__2257> 
n
 <Stargazing> 
nop
 <NEXandGBX> 
and we already have mk8d representation
 <Baby_Luigi> 
no gba representation but w/e
 <turb> 
people dont seem to care about the gba courses in the first place so its not a big loss
 <Meta_Knight> 
im fine with this
 <Baby_Luigi> 
i personally really like gba battle course 3 in wii but eh
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok gonna move on then
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
M23 Favorite Capture (Pokio, Tropical Wiggler, Bowser, Gushen, T-Rex, Chargin' Chuck, Glydon, Sherm, Uproot, Goomba, Frog, Yoshi, Lakitu, Parabones/Paragoomba, Hammer Bro/Fire Bro, Lava Bubble)
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we just added this
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so there's nothing to do
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but there it is, look at it
 
Raiko_Chaorikawa looks and sees
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
M24 is currently vacant but we're churning Favorite Costume out right now to be ready to finalize next meeting
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
M25 Favorite 2D Level (World 1-1 (SMB), Donut Plains 1 (SMW), Forest of Illusion 3 (SMW), World 1-2 (SMB), World 2-Pyramid (SMB3), Donut Secret House (SMW), Painted Swampland (NSMBU), Front Door (SMW), World 8-7 (NSMBW),
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
that's what's remaining after I removed:
 <Lakituthequick> 
13) World 2-Pyramid (SMB3) — 40 — 2.17%
 <Lakituthequick> 
14) Go! Go! Morphing! (YI) — 32 — 1.74%
 <Lakituthequick> 
15) Arabian Nights (WL4) — 28 — 1.52%
 <Lakituthequick> 
16) O. Top Secret Area (SMW) — 5 — 0.27%
 <Lakituthequick> 
16) O. World 2-3 (NSMB) — 5 — 0.27%
 <Lakituthequick> 
Ignore 14
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Touch Fuzzy, Get Dizzy (YI), Poochy Ain't Stupid (YI), Crescent Moon Village (WL4), Arabian Nights (WL4), Bramble Scramble (DKC2), Go! Go! Morphing! (YI))
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
hmm
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
well it's not critical
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
those removals are due to the M5-7 stuff we did
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
but i wouldn't mind bumping htis back up to say
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
12 or so
 <NEXandGBX> 
yeah, 9 is pretty small
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah I'm up for auto-bumping however many up
 <smasher> 
thats six vacancies so yeah itd be nice to bump it back up a bit
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
how many years have we had this specific award, let me check
 <NEXandGBX> 
problem is there's not a lot of notable write ins to replace it with
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
2016 and 2017
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so let me grab both lists
 
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 <NEXandGBX> 
good idea
 
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 <Lakituthequick> 
would add the two 16s from last year
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yL47QoJ30K51pFmRyvdEpZ0g1ulv5t6gLBQqHE_LBws/edit#heading=h.6oz4qpw3hcjj
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RsocZ6s-whVG__FrTqGK_CVeDPOJiAVeYBB-7aat2oo/edit#heading=h.cjy3fob45t9d
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
gaze upon the results
 <Baby_Luigi> 
internet decided to be a pick
 <smasher> 
some paste them for me
 <smasher> 
someone
 <Baby_Luigi> 
did i miss something
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
you didn't
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yes, we decided to make m25 favorite baby luigi
 <Lakituthequick> 
2016
 <Lakituthequick> 
12) Arabian Nights (WL4) — 52 — 2.37%
 <Lakituthequick> 
13) Go! Go! Morphing! (YI) — 45 — 2.05%
 <Lakituthequick> 
14) World 2-Pyramid (SMB3) — 44 — 2.01%
 <Lakituthequick> 
15) Crescent Moon Village (WL4) — 42 — 1.92%
 <Lakituthequick> 
16) O. Rickety Race (DKC2) — 4 — 0.18%
 <Lakituthequick> 
16) O. World 4-1 (SMB3) — 4 — 0.18%
 <Lakituthequick> 
16) O. Yoshi's Island 2 (SMW) — 4 — 0.18%
 <Baby_Luigi> 
fucking hell
 <Meta_Knight> 
top secret area feels like cheating
 <Meta_Knight> 
but it counts i suppose
 <smasher> 
rip rickety race
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
16) O. World 4-1 (SMB3) — 4 — 0.18% 16) O. Yoshi's Island 2 (SMW) — 4 — 0.18% 19) O. World 5-3 (SMB3) — 3 — 0.14%
 <smasher> 
yeah im ___ on top ecret arrea too
 <smasher> 
secret area
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
16) O. Top Secret Area (SMW) — 5 — 0.27% 16) O. World 2-3 (NSMB) — 5 — 0.27%
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
18) O. World 1-1 (NSMB) — 3 — 0.16% 18) O. World 5-3 (SMB3) — 3 — 0.16% 18) O. World 8-4 (SMB) — 3 — 0.16%
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
those are the only ones I'm seriously considering for an auto-bump
 <turb> 
yeah
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we could fit all of them
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but we don't have to
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
what's the issue with top secret area
 <turb> 
it just has power ups
 <turb> 
its not a real level afaik
 <smasher> 
yeah it isnt really
 <Baby_Luigi> 
you can even exit out of it like Yoshi's House
 <NEXandGBX> 
it's not really much of a "level" yeah
 <smasher> 
you just enter, get powerups
 <smasher> 
exit
 <smasher> 
its like one screen long
 <Baby_Luigi> 
it has a time limit for strange reason
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
oh ok
 <Baby_Luigi> 
not even an end gate
 <Lakituthequick> 
it doesn't even have a world-level thing
 <Lakituthequick> 
heh
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
well, how 2 vote
 <Lakituthequick> 
"Notes Not a true level; instead, it merely contains power ups. It can be exited by leaving from either side."
 <NEXandGBX> 
we could look at how some of those nominees did in the other year
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm not seeing anything more conclusive by doing that
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
other than world 5-3 being a sure add
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so, as the last thing we'll do this meeting
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Auto-add that bunch of levels except for "Top Secret Area (SMW)" to M25? (y/n/a)
 <smasher> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Meta_Knight> 
y
 <Baby_Luigi> 
y
 <Gabumon> 
a
 <NEXandGBX> 
can't hurt given how few nominees it has
 <smasher> 
i have no issues with adding the rest since theyre actual level
 <NEXandGBX> 
y
 <smasher> 
and this needs new life now
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
y
 <smasher> 
6-0-1
 <turb> 
y
 <smasher> 
7-0-1
 <Shoe> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
gr8, I'll add those soon enough
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so in closing
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
next meeting will resume with M26
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
along with addressing that bulk of polls either about to be made tonight or are currently running on the staff board
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
with potential to get a start on Fail Awards
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
there's no wild concepts I have in mind for Fail Awards so if anyone else has thought of any, such as new awards or swaps, between now and next week would be a good time for that
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I can't wait to add the Volleyball minigame somewhere
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
that reminds me
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i should shit out a couple of nominees for song
 
Anton{Politoed} blows an airhorn
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
meeting is adjourned