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<turb> 
hi
 
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<turb> 
it's time
<turb> 
so basically uhh
<turb> 
polls
<turb> 
<turb> 
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<smasher> 
h
<turb> 
if you haven't already voted or acknowledged them then go vote
<Toadbert> 
question
<turb> 
what's the question
<Lord_Bowser> 
im here
<turb> 
my question is why google docs won't load
<Gamefreak75> 
nintendo is never going to let us finish fave costume
<turb> 
anyway once we get enough votes, 9 or so, or people acknowledging they can't vote
<turb> 
we can finalize nominees
<Gamefreak75> 
since they released two more like 3 days ago
<Gamefreak75> 
idk how popular the 2 new costumes are though
<Toadbert> 
what if i cant vote
<Lakituthequick> 
I have voted
<turb> 
oh yeah they did do that with the dlc didn't they
<Shoey> 
i've voted
<Lakituthequick> 
Mainly for the ones that were extracted from M twenty-something
<turb> 
I think it's late enough that we should just accept them as writeins
<Lakituthequick> 
it was a baseball and satelliteview costume right
<turb> 
yeah
<smasher> 
i haven't voted because i don't remember leve3
<turb> 
yoshi level seems to have enough votes to finalize
<Gamefreak75> 
works for me
<turb> 
idk where 22 is
<smasher> 
levels
<__2257> 
here
<turb> 
hi
<__2257> 
do you want to close yoshi
<turb> 
i'll give it a few more minutes since there's only 7 voters for dk/wario
<smasher> 
I don't know if i have time to look them up
<Lord_Bowser> 
i cant vote on wario
<Gamefreak75> 
just vote for my nominationss
<Lord_Bowser> 
but i voted for yoshi/dk
<turb> 
so if there's anyone who wants to do that who hasn't voted and can vote then now's the time
<smasher> 
i voted for costume a while ago at least
<Gamefreak75> 
you can trust me
<mcd> 
i can't vote on wario and don't really know dk well enough to
<Shoey> 
God guys
<mcd> 
did vote on yoshi though
<Shoey> 
I can't believe you all voted against those sweet dkc 3 levels
<Toadbert> 
i couldve prevented this
<turb> 
ok well
<Lord_Bowser> 
tb take over the ac
<turb> 
at :10 or so I'll probably close votes and get polls
<Gamefreak75> 
barely anyone voted for tf levels
<turb> 
or just leave them open and finalize post meeting but _
<smasher> 
id vote at least one dkc3 level if i remembered one shoey
<Anton{Awaytoed}> 
I'm back
<turb> 
hi
 
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<__2257> 
that was a quick 30 minutes
<turb> 
you can take over now if you want
<Gamefreak75> 
shame how poor taste thecommunit has
<Gamefreak75> 
community
<turb> 
i've just been here waiting for everyone to get back so they can actually vote if they haven't lol
<smasher> 
tf is a great game
<__2257> 
literally nobody played tropical freeze
<turb> 
but i assume everyone who's gone afk has already voted
<Anton{Politoed}> 
but hey guys even with the "idk enough to be able to vote" we still are missing a solid 6-7 people from saying or doing anything
<__2257> 
nintendo didnt have a console to play it on
<Anton{Politoed}> 
and that's more than I care for for something that we've been focusing on for 2-3 weeks now
<turb> 
yeah
<Anton{Politoed}> 
so as a general reminder and not me actively doing anything about it right now
<Gamefreak75> 
which exemplifies how poors taste people have
<Anton{Politoed}> 
if you don't want to participate, you can leave
<Anton{Politoed}> 
:)
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
hi
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'm here now
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
voted on both polls i could and have already said which ones i can't so i'm done either way
<Gamefreak75> 
vote tf levels so the poll isnt dkc1/2 bias
<turb> 
honestly i just voted 1/2/3 because i never played TF lol
<Gamefreak75> 
smh
<turb> 
or barely enough to experience most of it
<turb> 
blame the wii u
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
ast least New Funky Mode will rescue it soon
<Gamefreak75> 
its ok tf swithc comes out soonss
<Anton{Politoed}> 
also with how low these vote totals are, there's bound to be a boatload of ties
<__2257> 
the wii who
<turb> 
also yeah it's hard to keep track of who can't vote in polls and who's just ignoring it
<turb> 
so
<turb> 
_
<Anton{Politoed}> 
which will spur us into having to do what we did for Favorite Costume
<Gamefreak75> 
people can correct their sins
<Anton{Politoed}> 
which'll be another week of polls for M5-7
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
prime 4 when
<smasher> 
when the port comes out you will have no excuse
<Lakituthequick> 
There's a 6-way tie for 14th in the Yoshi level poll right now
<smasher> 
ill try to vote when im done working in a few minutes
<smasher> 
need to look this shit up
<smasher> 
time
<Gamefreak75> 
i hope ys gets at least one level in
<Gamefreak75> 
so it wont be yoshis island: the poll
<turb> 
don't worry i tried to vote for YS
<turb> 
good game
<Anton{Politoed}> 
is there anyone actively voting right now
<Lakituthequick> 
Jungle Hut (YS) is 6th so it'll ve good
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
not me
<Lakituthequick> 
*be
<turb> 
already voted for everything
<Gamefreak75> 
i voted on all the polls btw
<Lakituthequick> 
also yeah I've voted a few days ago
<Gamefreak75> 
so im good
<Lord_Bowser> 
ive voted/acknowledged all polls
<Gamefreak75> 
ill create an alt account and vote if needed
<Gamefreak75> 
dont tell the mods
<Anton{Politoed}> 
thx
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
too late
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'm telling
<smasher> 
banning now
<Anton{Politoed}> 
how about this one
<Anton{Politoed}> 
<Anton{Politoed}> 
vote in this one as well
<Gamefreak75> 
i did
<Lakituthequick> 
did too
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm locking M5-7 right now and will just resolve it as we did with Favorite Costume, and those polls will be put up later
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
done
<Gamefreak75> 
cant believe tostarena is losing
<Anton{Politoed}> 
not going to discuss which nominees made it into M5-7 right now
<Gamefreak75> 
at least chef is there
<turb> 
that means it'll stay on the award at least
<turb> 
the vote was to remove 2
<Shoey> 
yeah gamefreak
<smasher> 
voted
<Anton{Politoed}> 
my fetish is the vote count skyrocketing on all 4 of these polls only after they're forced into the meeting despite there being ample time for a week or two before
 
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<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
sounds complicate
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
*complicated
<Shoey> 
play tropical freeze you fucks
<Lakituthequick> 
o lol πŸ…±OWSER'S πŸ‘ πŸ…±IG πŸ‘ πŸ…±LAST πŸŒ‹πŸŒ‹πŸŒ‹ is still in the docs
<Anton{Politoed}> 
is anyone still actively voting in the Costume poll
<Lakituthequick> 
Shoey I'm going to buy the Switch version
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
no
<Anton{Politoed}> 
this poll is to choose 2 that you DON'T want in the award
<Shoey> 
not good enough ltq
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
look shoey there's only one game on wii u that hasn't been rereleased or will be for another system
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
it's not enough
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
/not enough/
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Favorite Costume poll is locked and I will resolve the outcome of it after the meeting
<Anton{Politoed}> 
so next up is deciding nominees for Favorite Song !
<Anton{Politoed}> 
<Lakituthequick> 
Chef and Swimwear lost
<Lakituthequick> 
or won
<Lakituthequick> 
got the most votes
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
dammit ltq
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
your avatar confused me
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
also if we need more cartoon ones
<Lakituthequick> 
oh
<Lakituthequick> 
I forgot my avatar did that
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i have far more knowledge of the cartoon songs than anyone ever should have
<Anton{Politoed}> 
the list Ltq made up is:
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Ashley's Song Break Free (Lead the Way) DK Rap Do the Mario Jump Up, Super Star! Karaoke (Medamayaki) The Mario Drawing Song Mona Pizza Phantom of the Bwahpera
<Gamefreak75> 
eddy the mean old yeti or riot
<Anton{Politoed}> 
with blocky adding on
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Eddie, Let Me Go Back To My Home, Pirate's Scorn, and I'm Leo Luster
<Shoey> 
can't believe we aren't including the best mario song
<Meta_Knight> 
is there anything in ddr mario mix with lyrics
<Anton{Politoed}> 
is that a complete selection from everyone's ideas?
<Shoey> 
the super mario world show theme
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
that's all i plan to suggest
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'd add metal head if diddy's voice didn't SUCK in it
<Shoey> 
I suggest the super mario world show theme
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
fuckin' diddy
<Lord_Bowser> 
im fine with the current nominees
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
also i'm down for shoey's
<turb> 
I don't have any suggestions
<smasher> 
i can't think of anything not already on the list
<Lakituthequick> 
If anything only the thing Shoey suggest and the DKC intro theme but otherwise no additions from me
<Shoey> 
yeah the smw show them is good shit
<Gamefreak75> 
wait fuck was the costume poll to remove 2?
<Shoey> 
also yeah the dkc theme is good shit
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yes
<Meta_Knight> 
im fine with that
 
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<Anton{Politoed}> 
yep that's what the thing said
<Shoey> 
i'd support both themes
<Gamefreak75> 
i voted for the ones i wanted to keep
<Stargazing> 
sorry im late!
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
Oops
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
hi star
<Shoey> 
you did it wrong than
<Gamefreak75> 
im dumb
<Stargazing> 
i thought i logged in but i fucked up
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
we're discussing favorite song rn
<Stargazing> 
sorry yall
<Stargazing> 
oh good!
<smasher> 
gamefreak you dunce
<Anton{Politoed}> 
do any of these songs need like
<Anton{Politoed}> 
name changes
<Anton{Politoed}> 
or something, like
<Anton{Politoed}> 
to include where it's from
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
hmmm
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i think that would be good
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
help people look it up so they can listen
<turb> 
I think they'd benefit from descriptive subtitles beyond the obvious ones like the smw show theme or whatever
<mcd> 
are we still able to add songs
<mcd> 
if so what about the jimmy one from warioware diy
<turb> 
unless that has a name and isn't immediately identifiable as Super Mario World Show Theme
 
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<turb> 
like medamayaki would benefit
<Shoey> 
does jimmy t's have lyrics
<Lakituthequick> 
Also the comma in "Eddie, Let Me Go Back To My Home" can potentially be confusing because of how this stuff is listed
<Lakituthequick> 
beware
<Gamefreak75> 
yes
<Anton{Politoed}> 
sure but it would be easier to post in the thread so I can group them so I don't have to look at that and then also what people are saying in here
<Gamefreak75> 
i dont know if the jimmy t song has a name though
<Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so what we'll do since people are just now/still adding nominee ideas
<Anton{Politoed}> 
is we're going to keep this on the forum and not do anything with Favorite Song right now
<Anton{Politoed}> 
but in that thread we will bring it to completion with finalizing the nominee list and how we're naming them
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
that sounds ogod to me
<Anton{Politoed}> 
so next meeting we can be :thumbsup: at it
<turb> 
gr8
<smasher> 
fine with me
<Anton{Politoed}> 
this means there needs to be complete participation with this so it's finished
<Anton{Politoed}> 
and not scrambling to do it during the meeting it was meant to be finished on, like right now and with M5-7
<Anton{Politoed}> 
unironically pretty pissed that this is happening
<Anton{Politoed}> 
so anyways moving on
<Anton{Politoed}> 
with those things being unable to resolve right now, the next thing is continuing on with Mario awards
<Anton{Politoed}> 
and we left off at M26
<Anton{Politoed}> 
which should be easier since we don't gotta move a bunch of stuff around with it
<Anton{Politoed}> 
M26 Favorite 3D Mario Level (Toy Time Galaxy (SMG), Good Egg Galaxy (SMG), Gusty Garden Galaxy (SMG), Whomp's Fortress/Throwback Galaxy (SM64/SMG2), Grandmaster Galaxy (SMG2), Cosmic Cove Galaxy (SMG2), Bob-omb Battlefield (SM64), Tick Tock Clock (SM64), Pinna Park (SMS), Sirena Beach (SMS), Delfino Plaza/Airstrip (SMS), Mount Must Dash (SM3DW),
<Anton{Politoed}> 
The Great Tower of Bowser Land (SM3DW), Champion's Road (SM3DW), World 2-3 (SM3DL), Special 7-3 (SM3DL), Slimy Spring Galaxy (SMG2), The Great Goal Pole (SM3DW))
<Lakituthequick> 
16) Slimy Spring Galaxy (SMG2) — 37 — 1.81%
<Lakituthequick> 
17) World 2-3 (SM3DL) — 30 — 1.46%
<Lakituthequick> 
18) Special 7-3 (SM3DL) — 19 — 0.93%
<Lakituthequick> 
19) O. Noki Bay (SMS) — 8 — 0.39%
<Lakituthequick> 
19) O. Space Junk Galaxy (SMG) — 8 — 0.39%
<Lakituthequick> 
21) O. Freezeflame Galaxy (SMG) — 6 — 0.29%
<Meta_Knight> 
should we include odyssey kingdoms or should that be its own thing
<Gamefreak75> 
include
<Meta_Knight> 
if the former we should add metro and bowser kingdom at least
<Lakituthequick> 
I have in my notes: Add Metro Kingdom: New Donk City, Wooded Kingdom: Steam Gardens
<Lord_Bowser> 
metro, bowser, sand, and moon would all be good choices to add imo
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I didn't play the galaxy games so how are those in comparison to how the Odyssey kingdoms are done
<Lord_Bowser> 
theyre more linear
<Anton{Politoed}> 
like, I guess there's SM64 levels on here and those are more comparable so _________
<turb> 
structured as entirely separate enterable missions
<Meta_Knight> 
just looking at this list id be okay replacing toy time with a kingdom
<Lakituthequick> 
haven't played galaxy either
<mcd> 
would we add the kingdoms themselves or specific locations inside them
<turb> 
they're linear and the world is different each time
<Meta_Knight> 
because toy time has the luigi purple coins comet that people hate
<Shoey> 
well meta we should knock the lowest vote getters off first
<turb> 
kingdoms themselves would make more sense
<mcd> 
id agree
<Lord_Bowser> 
probably knock off 2-3 and 7-3
<Anton{Politoed}> 
there's 18 nominees on this already right now so everything we add would cost removing something else
<Meta_Knight> 
yeah but i said this before looking at the result shoey lol
<Gamefreak75> 
64 and sunshine stages are on there
<Gamefreak75> 
so odyssey is fine
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'd be willing to chop off some of the bottom ones
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
so that we can add odyssey
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
like, 1 sec
<Shoey> 
out with the old in with the new
<smasher> 
id want bowsers/metro/moon
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
gonna look at the full results for something
<Shoey> 
I think sand would be a good addition
<Lord_Bowser> 
metro/bowser/sand/moon
<smasher> 
id be willing to kill the bottom three for them
<Gamefreak75> 
metro/bowser/wooded
<Lord_Bowser> 
is priority order for me
<Lakituthequick> 
getting rid of the two 3D Land things to enter SMO sounds good
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
14) Grandmaster Galaxy (SMG2) — 62 — 3.03%
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
15) The Great Goal Pole (SM3DW) — 59 — 2.88%
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
16) Slimy Spring Galaxy (SMG2) — 37 — 1.81%
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'd be willing to take into account the huge gap down
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
and just cut the bottom three out for odyssey
<smasher> 
yeah
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
so 2-3, 7-2, and slimy sprig
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
*spring
<Shoey> 
but which kingdoms?
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
that, i cannot contribute to
<mcd> 
id be happy to cut more for odyssey tbh if we need to
<Shoey> 
cause it looks like there have been 5 nominated
<Shoey> 
same mcd
<Lord_Bowser> 
same
<Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah let's vote on that first
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yeah, we can go up for a couple more
<Lakituthequick> 
metro at the very least as eveyone mentioned that one
<Gamefreak75> 
metros a given imo
<Meta_Knight> 
definitely metro
<turb> 
yeah
<Shoey> 
donk city bitch
<mcd> 
i heard bowser and wooded mentioned earlier
<Meta_Knight> 
aside that i personally want bowser kingdom but idk if anyone else wants that
<Lord_Bowser> 
should we just autoreplace the bottom nominee with metro and then vote from there
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Remove all 3 of: The Great Goal Pole (SM3DW), Slimy Spring Galaxy (SMG2), and World 2-3 (SM3DL)? (y/n/a)
<Shoey> 
y
<Lord_Bowser> 
y
<Meta_Knight> 
y
<Anton{Politoed}> 
y
<Lakituthequick> 
y
<__2257> 
a
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
y
<mcd> 
and 7-2, right?
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yeah
<Gamefreak75> 
wait theres one lower than goal pole
<Shoey> 
wasn' there another nomine we were gonna eliminate
<Anton{Politoed}> 
wait whoops
<Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah i flubbed
<Shoey> 
but all 4 fuck it
<Gamefreak75> 
im y for removing all those 4 tbh though
<Shoey> 
cut
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I meant the bottom 3
<Lord_Bowser> 
same
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'm okay with just lopping off goal pole
<turb> 
y
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
and giving us an extra odyssey slot
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
so my vote stays "y and also kill 7-2"
<mcd> 
we can always add it back if we can't decide on a fourth
<smasher> 
y
<Shoey> 
my vote also stays y
<mcd> 
y and kill 7-2/goal pole
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yeah
<Meta_Knight> 
y
<Lord_Bowser> 
y, kill bottom 4
<Meta_Knight> 
odyssey is so fresh that i feel it has a huge impact on everything
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I can't really see anyone missing it and no one's complained so I'll just do that all yeah
<smasher> 
y kill bottom 4
<Gamefreak75> 
y to bottom 4
<Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so i'm seeing:
<Meta_Knight> 
y
<Lakituthequick> 
so how to format SMO things
<Anton{Politoed}> 
metro/bowser/wooded/sand/moon
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
Metro Kingdom (SMO)?
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
and such
<Meta_Knight> 
per perch
<Anton{Politoed}> 
are there any others people are burning for
<Lakituthequick> 
Kingdom: Location, Kingdom, or Location
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
...what/
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
?
<Gamefreak75> 
just kingdomss
<Meta_Knight> 
i feel we should omit city names/specific names
<Anton{Politoed}> 
just kingdom yeah
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i thought we were just putting in the kingdoms wholesale
<Anton{Politoed}> 
that's how I have it in my notes for other things
<Lord_Bowser> 
each kingdom has a location subtitle perch
<Lakituthequick> 
..what?
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
oh
<Lord_Bowser> 
i.e metro's subtitle is new donk city
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
just kingdoms, imo
<Shoey> 
kingdoms will suffice
<Lord_Bowser> 
wooded's is steam gardens
<Shoey> 
anyone who'd vote them will know what it is
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i still haven't played odyssey i'm doing my best
<turb> 
kingdoms are obvious enough since thats whats displayed on the map
<Lakituthequick> 
So Metro Kingdom is a given
<Anton{Politoed}> 
each kingdom has a subsection though
<Anton{Politoed}> 
does this matter to this
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I doubt it but I figured I'd raise the point
<Meta_Knight> 
i would say its fine if its just the kingdom
<Meta_Knight> 
its not like it doesnt include the city
<Lord_Bowser> 
i guess one name might be more familiar to someone than another
<Meta_Knight> 
the city is in the kingdom
<Meta_Knight> 
but theres part of the kingdom not in the city
<Lord_Bowser> 
the wiki prioritizes kingdom names though
<Lord_Bowser> 
the subtitles are redirects
<Shoey> 
I doubt most people know all the subsection names
<Lord_Bowser> 
i.e. new donk city redirects to metro kingdom
<Shoey> 
I only knew Donk City
<Meta_Knight> 
the kingdom name is whats on the map you select
<Lakituthequick> 
.... Kingdom is clear enough so
 
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<Meta_Knight> 
just put "the entire planet (SMO)" and call it a day /s
<Meta_Knight> 
what about mushroom kingdom tho
<Lakituthequick> 
Mushroom Kingdom: Peach' Castle
<Meta_Knight> 
actually nvm the ones we're suggesting is fine
<turb> 
subtitle it as smo if it gets in but it doesn't look like it will
<Lakituthequick> 
so are we gonna choose which of the five (metro/bowser/wooded/sand/moon) we aren't going to put in or
<Anton{Politoed}> 
is there anyone who's absolutely against just the Kingdom name
<Lord_Bowser> 
not me
<Gamefreak75> 
no
<Lakituthequick> 
Kingdom is perfectly okay
<smasher> 
i support it just being the kingdom nam
<smasher> 
e
<Meta_Knight> 
maybe have a vote for the one people dont want in out of those 5
<Anton{Politoed}> 
gr88, so are those the only 5 people suggest
<Lakituthequick> 
ye
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Select the one you do not want to be included in M26 (metro/bowser/wooded/sand/moon/a)
<Anton{Politoed}> 
moon
<__2257> 
moon
<Gamefreak75> 
moon
<Meta_Knight> 
moon
<Lakituthequick> 
moon
<Shoey> 
moon
<smasher> 
wooded
<Lord_Bowser> 
wooded
<smasher> 
0-0-2-0-5
<turb> 
moon
<smasher> 
rip moon kingdom
<Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah rip moon
<Anton{Politoed}> 
updating the sheet now
<Lakituthequick> 
Metro Kingdom, Bowser's Kingdom, Wooded Kingdom, Sand Kingdom from memory
<Anton{Politoed}> 
any other concerns for M26?
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
none from me
<Lakituthequick> 
nee
<turb> 
no
<Anton{Politoed}> 
gr888888888
<Anton{Politoed}> 
M27 Favorite Boss Battle (Tubba Blubba (Paper Mario), Phantamanta (Super Mario Sunshine), Brobot (Super Paper Mario), Rawk Hawk (PM:TTYD), Bowser in the Sky (Super Mario 64), Kaptain K. Rool 1 and 2 (DKC2), Super Dimentio (Super Paper Mario), Elder Princess Shroob (M&L: PiT), Megaleg (Super Mario Galaxy), General Guy (Paper Mario),
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Kingfin (Super Mario Galaxy), Motley Bossblob (SM3DW), Tiki Tong (DKCR), Popple and Rookie (M&L: SS), Dark Bowser (M&L: BIS), Bowser/Meowser (SM3DW), Bowser (Super Mario Galaxy), Shiny RoboBowser (M&L: PJ))
<Lord_Bowser> 
nope
<Anton{Politoed}> 
along with updating some of these to have abbreviated game names
<Lakituthequick> 
16) Motley Bossblob (SM3DW) — 42 — 2.00%
<Lakituthequick> 
17) Tubba Blubba (PM) — 39 — 1.85%
<Lakituthequick> 
18) Tiki Tong (DKCR) — 20 — 0.95%
<Lakituthequick> 
19) O. Bouldergeist (SMG) — 9 — 0.43%
<Lakituthequick> 
20) O. Baby Bowser (YI) — 8 — 0.38%
<Lakituthequick> 
21) O. Bowser (Super Mario Galaxy 2) — 7 — 0.33%
<Lakituthequick> 
21) O. Hisstocrat (SM3DW) — 7 — 0.33%
<Anton{Politoed}> 
this is at 18 nominees
<Shoey> 
dragon from odyssey
<Gamefreak75> 
rip tiki tong
<Meta_Knight> 
dragon was underwhelming
<Lord_Bowser> 
tbh i really liked mollusque-lanceur
<Anton{Politoed}> 
the dragon fucking sucked and I wish it was just not included in the game at all
<Shoey> 
meta we fought a goddamn dark souls boss
<Meta_Knight> 
my vote is for mechawiggler
<Gamefreak75> 
id vote for torkdrift or mollusque
<Anton{Politoed}> 
but it was visually cool
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
draggadon
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
:)
<Lakituthequick> 
Ruined Dragon was definitely underwhelming but cool
<Anton{Politoed}> 
here's all of the options
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i have no contributions to odyssey, though
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Madame Broode, Knucklotec, Torkdrift, Bowser, Mechawiggler, Mollusque-Lanceur, Cookatiel, Ruined Dragon, RoboBrood
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
so i'll be sitting this part out
<Shoey> 
oh yeah I love fist god
<Anton{Politoed}> 
out of those I really liked Knucklotec, Torkdrift, and Mechawiggler
<Lord_Bowser> 
mollusque-lanceur, torkdrift, and mechawiggler get my vote
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Mollusque-Lanceur looked cool and I love him but it was really annoying
<Gamefreak75> 
im with lb on this
<Lakituthequick> 
Knucklotec is pretty neat yeah
<Meta_Knight> 
whats torkdrift
<Lord_Bowser> 
the wooded kingdom boss
<Lakituthequick> 
UFO that eats flowers
<Anton{Politoed}> 
the wooded kingdom ufo thing
<Lord_Bowser> 
flower ufo
<Meta_Knight> 
oh
<Meta_Knight> 
yeah i want mechawiggler and knucklotec
<Meta_Knight> 
idk about a thrid
<Shoey> 
sub out the squid for the knuckle boy
<Meta_Knight> 
*third
<Shoey> 
and that's my vote
<turb> 
I'd say torkdrift and mechawiggler imo
<turb> 
but i like both
<Anton{Politoed}> 
we haven't removed any yet so there's no set number on what to add
<turb> 
i'd be better off just voting when polls come up after removals are made
<Meta_Knight> 
remove the bottom 3 again i suppose
<Meta_Knight> 
and we can add from there
<Meta_Knight> 
and if we want more we can
<Anton{Politoed}> 
it's kind of a smooth decline in numbers down the list so there's no obvious cutoff
<Lakituthequick> 
between 15 and 16 is a slightly larger difference than a bit around it
<Anton{Politoed}> 
so how about we vote like this
<Anton{Politoed}> 
<Anton{Politoed}> 
here's the complete results so you can all see the list
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Remove how many from the bottom of M27? (0/1/2/3/4/5/a)
<Gamefreak75> 
3
<Stargazing> 
3
<mcd> 
3
<Lakituthequick> 
3
<__2257> 
a
<Shoey> 
a
<turb> 
3
<Anton{Politoed}> 
3
<Meta_Knight> 
3
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
3
<smasher> 
op3
<smasher> 
3
<Lord_Bowser> 
3
<smasher> 
why is there op
<Lakituthequick> 
this will remove Motley, Tubba and Tiki
<Anton{Politoed}> 
looks like 3 so that'll be
<Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah that
<Shoey> 
damn why did we never add steak to favorite boss fight
<smasher> 
a sad day for tubba
<smasher> 
10-0-2
 
Baby_Luigi has joined #mwikiawards
<Lakituthequick> 
...steak is a good one actually
<Lakituthequick> 
darn
<Baby_Luigi> 
sorry, I didn't pay attention to the time
<Shoey> 
lop another boss fight off and add steak :P
<Lakituthequick> 
i mean techically we could add steak and two smo ones
<smasher> 
what was steak again
<Lakituthequick> 
colour splash boss
<Shoey> 
it was the boss fight in color splash
<Lord_Bowser> 
did mario and rabbids have any good boss fights actually
<Shoey> 
where you had to cook a steak
<Lakituthequick> 
you defeat it by seasoning it
<Shoey> 
it was part of why color splash is so good
<turb> 
i thought steak was already brought up one of the other years and ultimately not added
<smasher> 
weird
<turb> 
i guess that's not a case against it definitively
<Anton{Politoed}> 
lb has a good question
<Meta_Knight> 
i havent played mario and rabbids so idk
<Anton{Politoed}> 
did rabbids have anything for this award
<smasher> 
i played color splash for half an hour
<smasher> 
and rabbids too
<Shoey> 
I don't really remember the bosses anton
<Lakituthequick> 
is rabbid kong a good boss(tm)
<smasher> 
i need to play that more before i can conttribute a boss
<Lakituthequick> 
i haven't played the ham so
<Lakituthequick> 
*game
<Lakituthequick> 
(ham?)
<Shoey> 
I kind of remember all the bosses being annoying tbh
<Lord_Bowser> 
steamed games
<Lord_Bowser> 
well if theyre only memorable for being annoying then theyre probably not good nominees
<Lakituthequick> 
yeah
<Lakituthequick> 
can always look at write-ins next year
<Lord_Bowser> 
man the problem is only like 2 people total played mario and rabbids
<smasher> 
it doesnt look like e need to add rabbids right now
<Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah I agree with that
<Shoey> 
it was a good game
<Shoey> 
people should buy it
<Baby_Luigi> 
I want to play it and i heard it's on sale in Best Buy
<Anton{Politoed}> 
so out of Odyssey the ones I saw people care about adding were
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Mollusque-Lanceur, Knucklotec, Torkdrift, and Mechawiggler
<Meta_Knight> 
i have it shoey
<Meta_Knight> 
i just havent played it
<Anton{Politoed}> 
are there any others people really want to consider for this award
<Lakituthequick> 
other than steak, nope
<Shoey> 
go team steak
<turb> 
out of the odyssey bosses no
<Anton{Politoed}> 
is steak like a serious response for this
<Shoey> 
yes
<Anton{Politoed}> 
serious enough for me to put time into discussing it
<Shoey> 
i'm for it
<Lakituthequick> 
oh
<Lakituthequick> 
58) O. Steak (PM:CS) — 1 — 0.05%
<Shoey> 
if nobody else is that's fine
<Lakituthequick> 
ahahah
<Meta_Knight> 
no opinion on steak but if it wasnt in last year and didnt get much for a write in or anything im against it
<Meta_Knight> 
odyssey should be prioritized
<turb> 
yeah that's the thing
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm not including it
<turb> 
it's basically a shitpost vote
<Lakituthequick> 
yeah smo first
<mcd> 
i had no idea steak existed up until this point
<Lord_Bowser> 
ugh my parents are forcing me to socialize
<Lord_Bowser> 
afk for a bit
<Meta_Knight> 
it probably becaues none of us actually played color splash
<Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so there's 3 spots with 4 SMO bosses
<Anton{Politoed}> 
quick lb say something you don't want
<Shoey> 
nobody played color splash but and gamefreak
<Shoey> 
me and
<Lakituthequick> 
i still want to play cs
<Shoey> 
you should it's amazing
<Baby_Luigi> 
the battle system is what turned me off of it mostly
<smasher> 
which one was torkdrift again
<Lakituthequick> 
ufo
<Baby_Luigi> 
the ufo thing
<Shoey> 
My votes for the 3 that aren't the squid
<smasher> 
oh
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Which SMO boss do you NOT want included in M27 Favorite Boss Battle? (Mollusque-Lanceur/Knucklotec/Torkdrift/Mechawiggler)
<Lakituthequick> 
Torkdrift
<Anton{Politoed}> 
all will be given the (SMO) tag, of course
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Mollusque-Lanceur
<Shoey> 
squid boss
<smasher> 
mollusque-lanceur
<Gamefreak75> 
knuckle
<turb> 
Mollusque-Lanceur
<Meta_Knight> 
mollusque
<__2257> 
mollusque lanceur
<Gamefreak75> 
:'(
<Baby_Luigi> 
Mollusque Lancer
<smasher> 
goodbye mollusque lanceur
<Anton{Politoed}> 
lb would be a vote for keep squidman but i don't think it'd be enough
<smasher> 
7-1-1-0-0
<Anton{Politoed}> 
so rip him
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm adding those other 3
<Anton{Politoed}> 
any other considerations for M27?
<smasher> 
im good
<Lakituthequick> 
steak
<Lakituthequick> 
(no)
<Meta_Knight> 
im fine with how it is
<Baby_Luigi> 
no
<mcd> 
not really
<Anton{Politoed}> 
gr888888888888888888
<Anton{Politoed}> 
so
<Anton{Politoed}> 
M28 Favorite Game Setting (Mushroom Kingdom (Super Mario Bros.), Mushroom Kingdom (Paper Mario), Super Mario RPG World, Dinosaur Land, Yoshi's Island, Isle Delfino, Beanbean Kingdom, Rogueport & surrounding areas, Flipside & Flopside, Bowser's Castle, Sarasaland, Donkey Kong Island, Sprixie Kingdom, Comet Observatory & Galaxies, Pi'illo Island, Prism Island)
<Lakituthequick> 
14) Sprixie Kingdom — 65 — 2.95%
<Lakituthequick> 
15) Prism Island — 48 — 2.18%
<Lakituthequick> 
16) Sarasaland — 37 — 1.68%
<Lakituthequick> 
17) O. Peach's Castle — 9 — 0.41%
<Lakituthequick> 
18) O. Diamond City — 7 — 0.32%
<Lakituthequick> 
19) O. Mushroom Kingdom (M&L:BIS)) — 6 — 0.27%
<Lakituthequick> 
20 is new donk city somewhy
<Meta_Knight> 
itd be like "city" but the thing is there really isnt any other level like that
<Lakituthequick> 
my notes say "Add Cascade Kingdom" which is another SMO thing
<Shoey> 
i'm good with how this award is
<Anton{Politoed}> 
new donk city was included last year because there was more than enough previews of it to allow a decent opinion
<Anton{Politoed}> 
there's 16 right now and I'd like to see some SMO representation
<smasher> 
i would too
<Anton{Politoed}> 
so Cascade Kingdom
<Gamefreak75> 
can we encompass it all into one nomination?
<Stargazing> 
i'd support cascade kingdom
<Lakituthequick> 
SMO is probably too diverse to do a all-in thing
<Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah that was my thought
<Baby_Luigi> 
Cascade Kingdom is meh to me
<__2257> 
but the way the award is written now, the nominees are all something that was exactly the setting of an entire game
<Anton{Politoed}> 
and it also introduces things like "Bowser's Castle"
<smasher> 
one nom would be good if it was possible but yeah i dont think it would work
<Gamefreak75> 
galaxies are in there too
<mcd> 
yeah galaxy only has one nom
<Anton{Politoed}> 
and SMO's bowser's castle is wildly different
<__2257> 
so for consistency, it should be the entire world
<Gamefreak75> 
same with pm and pm2
<Meta_Knight> 
the best way i can encompass everything is something like "The whole planet SMO"
<smasher> 
ok 22 does have a point
<Meta_Knight> 
or something
<Lakituthequick> 
well on 22's point, most nominated games are indeed very coherent
<Lakituthequick> 
SMO is wild
<turb> 
yeah idk if this needs to be discussed more on the forums later if the entire world is a big point of contention
<turb> 
yeah like
<Baby_Luigi> 
Super Mario Odyssey Kingdoms
<turb> 
smo isn't as cohesive
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
is paper mario really
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
all that coherent
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
or rogueport and its surrondings
<Baby_Luigi> 
TTYD isn't
<Baby_Luigi> 
the first one is more coherent
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
and flipside/flopside isn't the setting of an entire game
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
so if we're wanting to be consistent we'd need to reword that one
<Anton{Politoed}> 
this award feels _ if it's tough just figuring out how to nominate something
<Baby_Luigi> 
why is Mushroom Kingdom split from SMB from PM anyway
<Lakituthequick> 
i haven't played any paper mario's yet so can't judge those
<Anton{Politoed}> 
"M28 - Favorite Game Setting - The game with the best setting overall. Focus is placed on the entirety of the setting as a whole, rather than just individual areas."
<Anton{Politoed}> 
is what our current definition is
<Shoey> 
I think the paper mario world is now considered a different world baby_luigi
<Anton{Politoed}> 
so it is the whole game
<Anton{Politoed}> 
and SMO just doesn't fit this
<Shoey> 
like how we've go super mario rpg world on here
<Baby_Luigi> 
Since Paper Jam...?
<__2257> 
i dont think its about paper jam
<__2257> 
the thing is
<__2257> 
the focus is supposed to be on the setting as depicted in a specific game
<Anton{Politoed}> 
honestly I'm perfectly fine with dismantling this award and reworking it
<__2257> 
so smb and paper mario are jsut separate because theyre separate games
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'm ok with it
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
as in
<Baby_Luigi> 
But Mushroom Kingdom is like different in every Mario game anyway
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
replacing/overhauling this award
<Gamefreak75> 
im fine with that
<Lakituthequick> 
smo is all different settings really so ..
<smasher> 
ok id be ok with overhauling this
<Baby_Luigi> 
Super Mario 64 is different than Super Mario Bros.
<__2257> 
not because theyre supposedly separate locations within the fictional chronology of the series
<Meta_Knight> 
i agree with anton/perch
<__2257> 
well yeah but we couldnt include all of them
<__2257> 
that would be too many nominees
<Stargazing> 
yeah agree
<Baby_Luigi> 
imo it's a bit messy to me
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I'll make a thread for this after the meeting
<Lakituthequick> 
:ok:
<Anton{Politoed}> 
but just some examples of how we could approach this is:
<Baby_Luigi> 
People might like Mushroom Kingdom in SMB3 but not in SMB idk
<Baby_Luigi> 
it's bizarre
<Anton{Politoed}> 
redefine the entire award
<Anton{Politoed}> 
allow individual locations under certain circumstances
<mcd> 
presumably its just treated as different parts of the same kingdom
<__2257> 
im pretty sure its like this to try and keep it from being a retread of favorite level
<Anton{Politoed}> 
replace the award entirely
<Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah
<Lakituthequick> 
good point
<Baby_Luigi> 
Let's save this for thread then
<Anton{Politoed}> 
if we included entire kingdoms in favorite level then it's redundant in here as well
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i think
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'd be down for just scrapping the award
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
and coming up with an alternative
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
this has alwas been one of those weird awards
<Anton{Politoed}> 
we could also ju9st not include SMO but that feels bad
<Baby_Luigi> 
I do think the award has a good concept though
<mcd> 
itd get write-ins as well
<Lakituthequick> 
it already got last year
<Baby_Luigi> 
It serves as a cumulation of levels, not just one particular level
<turb> 
i like the concept of the award
<mcd> 
it made sense up until odyssey
<turb> 
but if we have any other ideas floating around they can be pitched
<turb> 
yeah thats the thing
<mcd> 
most mario games stuck to the same general location
<turb> 
it was shaky if workable
<smasher> 
i like the concept of the award too
<turb> 
odyssey is too spread out
<mcd> 
except galaxy which is easier to account for because it had a hub world
<turb> 
workable if shaky
<Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah like I wouldn't vote for "all of SMO' in this award because fuck Luncheon Kingdom
<turb> 
whatever
<__2257> 
i honestly dont think odyssey has changed things
<Anton{Politoed}> 
but I want to rig the award for SMO's Bowser's Kingdom
<__2257> 
smb3 had basically
<__2257> 
the same setting
<Baby_Luigi> 
I agree with 2257
<mcd> 
but smb3 is kinda easier to ignore
<Baby_Luigi> 
Also, galaxies technically aren't related to each other either
<Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah that's one of the ways to approach it, by just changing the definition to allow it and be more clear
<mcd> 
whereas odyssey is like the biggest mario game right now
<Lakituthequick> 
yeah but they share the whole 'galaxy' thing
<Baby_Luigi> 
But doesn't Odyssey share Kingdoms as well..?
<Baby_Luigi> 
with their own unique currency and moons?
<__2257> 
i think kingdoms are as coherent of a theme as galaxies are
<Baby_Luigi> 
^
<Lakituthequick> 
yeah
<__2257> 
they all kind of follow the same format with yeah, th ecurrency and moons
<__2257> 
as well as the inhabitants, the way the levels are named, the tourist book thing, etc
<Baby_Luigi> 
The only exceptions are the arena kingdoms but we can easily exclude those
<Lakituthequick> 
i feel like there is some distinqtion but you raise good points
<__2257> 
the award is about the way the setting is presented in the game, and i think theres a clear theme here
<__2257> 
its not incoherent
<Anton{Politoed}> 
ok well I'll make this a forum thread
<Baby_Luigi> 
I think we should save this for thread
<Baby_Luigi> 
Yeah
<turb> 
yeah
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm siding with 22 but I'm _____________ on the whole thing
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I feel we'll just need to regroup the nominees at the very least
<Anton{Politoed}> 
so next up are M29 and M30
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I've already went and updated them with the switch in generations and the moving of nominees from 30 --> 29
<Anton{Politoed}> 
so
<Anton{Politoed}> 
M29 Favorite Classic Game (GCN/GBA and older) (Super Mario World, Super Mario 64, Paper Mario, Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars, Donkey Kong 64, Super Mario Bros., Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, Mario Kart 64, Yoshi's Story, Mario Party 2, Super Mario Bros. 2 (USA), Wario Land 3, Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest,
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Mario Party 3, Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Super Mario Sunshine, Wario Land 4)
<Lakituthequick> 
12) Mario Party 2 — 47 — 2.08%
<Lakituthequick> 
13) Yoshi's Story — 38 — 1.68%
<Lakituthequick> 
14) Super Mario Bros. 2 (USA) — 34 — 1.50%
<Lakituthequick> 
15) Wario Land 3 — 30 — 1.33%
<Lakituthequick> 
16) O. Donkey Kong Country — 5 — 0.22%
<Lakituthequick> 
17) O. Super Mario Land — 4 — 0.18%
<Lakituthequick> 
17) O. Super Mario Land 2 — 4 — 0.18%
<Lakituthequick> 
19) O. Mario Party 1 — 3 — 0.13%
<Baby_Luigi> 
No change
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I think we're at 18 if I remembered how to count
<__2257> 
did this get overfilled by moving things from m30
<__2257> 
oh
<__2257> 
ok
<Anton{Politoed}> 
someone else may want to count just to get a 2nd opinion
<smasher> 
if were at 18 i think we are fine
<smasher> 
but i will count
<smasher> 
since im the ounter
<smasher> 
counter
<Lakituthequick> 
you moved three games
<Lakituthequick> 
15 + 3 = 18
<Anton{Politoed}> 
:clap:
<Gamefreak75> 
its 18 yeah
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm content with this with no further changes
<smasher> 
yep its 18
<smasher> 
no further changes
<Baby_Luigi> 
18
<Baby_Luigi> 
I miscounted 19 twice, but got 18 a third time
<smasher> 
i miscounted 19 too
<Meta_Knight> 
im okay with this
<mcd> 
i also miscounted 19 twice lol
<smasher> 
but that was accidentally counting smrpg as 2 options
<Lakituthequick> 
sounds risque
<smasher> 
damn subtitles
<Meta_Knight> 
i counted 18
<mcd> 
yeah nothing really to add/remove
<Anton{Politoed}> 
woo
<Baby_Luigi> 
!skip
<mcd> 
surprised and appalled smb2 isn't higher
<Anton{Politoed}> 
M30 Favorite Modern Game (Wii/DS and newer) (Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Mario Kart Wii, Super Mario 3D Land, Super Paper Mario, Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon, Super Mario 3D World, Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, Mario Kart 8/Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Super Mario Maker, Yoshi's Woolly World/Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World, Paper Mario: Color Splash
<Baby_Luigi> 
^
<mcd> 
i vote we replace all the nominees with smb2
<Lakituthequick> 
13) Yoshi's Woolly World/Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World — 42 — 1.85%
<Lakituthequick> 
14) Super Mario 3D Land — 37 — 1.63%
<Lakituthequick> 
15) Wario Land 4 — 23 — 1.01%
<Lakituthequick> 
16) O. Mario & Luigi: Dream Team — 10 — 0.44%
<Lakituthequick> 
17) O. Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga — 8 — 0.35%
<Lakituthequick> 
18) O. Mario Kart DS — 6 — 0.26%
<Baby_Luigi> 
y
<Baby_Luigi> 
I vote y on that
<Lakituthequick> 
wario land moved
<mcd> 
wario land 4's in the other award now anyway
<Anton{Politoed}> 
12 nominees on this one so I'd like to get more
<Anton{Politoed}> 
15 is the goal
<Gamefreak75> 
dont add odyssey
<Lakituthequick> 
lets add smo
<Baby_Luigi> 
duh
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Super Mario Odyssey is an instant add so I'm just doing that now
<smasher> 
add odyssey obviously
<Baby_Luigi> 
Super Mario Run?
<smasher> 
i would prefer two more as well
<Shoey> 
add mario and rabbids i guess
<turb> 
rabbids might- yeah
<Meta_Knight> 
rabbids is fair
<mcd> 
rabbids has good reviews
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'm ok with rabbids
<smasher> 
yeah id be ok with rabbids
<smasher> 
maybe dream team as the 15th?
<smasher> 
its the highest write in
<mcd> 
captain toad could be a good addition?
<Stargazing> 
it's very close to the previous write in though, and isn't that close to wario land 4
<Baby_Luigi> 
I did suggest Super Mario Run but that's a small mobile title so eh
<Baby_Luigi> 
I wouldn't mind Captain Toad
<Baby_Luigi> 
great game
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
ooh
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i like captain toad
<Shoey> 
yeah captain toad is great
<mcd> 
its getting a port too
<Baby_Luigi> 
Captain Toad 4 Smash
<Gamefreak75> 
add dkc:tf
<Lakituthequick> 
captain toad wasn't previously written in
<Shoey> 
why the hell isn't tropical freeze in ths
<smasher> 
i think we removed a dkc option at one point
<smasher> 
because the voters are terrible and it scored low
<Baby_Luigi> 
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions idk
<smasher> 
but the port might make it more viable
<turb> 
it feels weird to put a port of an old game on but
<smasher> 
i wouldnt be opposed to either it or captain toad
<turb> 
i dunno
<smasher> 
i agree yeah
<Meta_Knight> 
it feels weird to me too
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
not sure about superstar saga
<Gamefreak75> 
im voting no on ss remake
<turb> 
the removal of dk was only for the level/whatever awards iirc
<Meta_Knight> 
im also against ss
<turb> 
so dkctf could probably be on here
<Meta_Knight> 
it doesnt feel as like
<Meta_Knight> 
noticable
<turb> 
I'm tlaking about ss for the port thing
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, Super Mario Run, Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle, Mario & Luigi: Dream Team, Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions
<Anton{Politoed}> 
so that's 6
<Anton{Politoed}> 
with 2 easy slots but up to 5
<Anton{Politoed}> 
SS isn't getting wide support I'm seeing and that'd knock it down to 5
<Lakituthequick> 
not really for ss and smr
<smasher> 
i mean i cant say im against adding everything there but ss
<Anton{Politoed}> 
how do people feel about Dream Team and Super Mario Run
<smasher> 
smr is __ but valid
<Baby_Luigi> 
Dream Team is eh
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
dream team is valid but i'm not a fan of it
<Baby_Luigi> 
It does have to compete with BiS anyway
<Lakituthequick> 
I feel SMR isn't sizable enough for this kinda poll
<Gamefreak75> 
i dont care for smr but its w/e daisy fanboys will vote for it
<Meta_Knight> 
i feel like we would have added dream team by now if it was like noteworthy enough
<turb> 
both valid but neither seem like good choices
<Lakituthequick> 
the others are fully fledged games at the least
<smasher> 
we could cut those two then and have 16
<Lakituthequick> 
^
<smasher> 
unless there are two better suggestions
<Anton{Politoed}> 
ok i'll do this one at a time
<Anton{Politoed}> 
let me just set it up
<smasher> 
i think everyones fine with tf/rabbids/ct
<smasher> 
ok
<Stargazing> 
i still have super mario run and i agree with cutting it off
<Stargazing> 
it's not viable at all and is an automatic last
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add "Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker" to M30? (y/n/a)
<Gamefreak75> 
y
<smasher> 
y
<Shoey> 
y
<Lakituthequick> 
y
<__2257> 
a
<Baby_Luigi> 
y
<smasher> 
5-0-1
<Anton{Politoed}> 
y
<smasher> 
6-0-1
<Stargazing> 
y
<smasher> 
7-0-1
<Anton{Politoed}> 
gr8 so i'll add it
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add "Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze" to M30? (y/n/a)
<Baby_Luigi> 
y
<smasher> 
y
<Gamefreak75> 
Y
<Lakituthequick> 
y
<mcd> 
y
<Shoey> 
y
<smasher> 
6-0-0
<Meta_Knight> 
y
<smasher> 
7-0-0
<__2257> 
a
<Anton{Politoed}> 
gr88
<smasher> 
7-0-1
<smasher> 
you RUINEDIT
<Anton{Politoed}> 
that brings us to 15
<mcd> 
gr7-0-1
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add "Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle" to M30? (y/n/a)
<Baby_Luigi> 
y
<smasher> 
y
<__2257> 
not comfortable voting for a game i didnt play
<Lakituthequick> 
y
<Stargazing> 
a
<turb> 
a
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
a
<__2257> 
a
<smasher> 
3-0-3
<Gamefreak75> 
a
<smasher> 
3-05
<smasher> 
3-0-5
<Anton{Politoed}> 
y
<smasher> 
the abstains have it
<smasher> 
4-0-5
<turb> 
I'll switch to y
<Shoey> 
y
<mcd> 
y
<smasher> 
7-0-4
<smasher> 
there we are
<Shoey> 
sorry I went to get cereal
<Lakituthequick> 
i mean i haven't played rabbids either but it appears to be well-recieved
<mcd> 
yeah it can't hurt to have it on the poll
<Meta_Knight> 
y
<Baby_Luigi> 
what's not to like about an xcom mario game
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add "Super Mario Run" to M30?
<Baby_Luigi> 
n
<Shoey> 
n
<Stargazing> 
n
<smasher> 
n
<Lakituthequick> 
n
<Gamefreak75> 
rabbids
<__2257> 
a
<smasher> 
0-5-1
<mcd> 
a
<turb> 
n
<Gamefreak75> 
n
<Meta_Knight> 
n
<smasher> 
0-8-2
<smasher> 
super mario run away
<Anton{Politoed}> 
rip
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
nb
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
*n
<smasher> 
0-9-2
<Lakituthequick> 
vote: y/n/a
<Lakituthequick> 
gf: rabbids
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add "Mario & Luigi: Dream Team" to M30? (y/n/a)
<mcd> 
id like to switch to rabbids
<Baby_Luigi> 
n
<turb> 
n
<Shoey> 
a
<smasher> 
0-9-2-1
<mcd> 
n
<smasher> 
a
<Stargazing> 
n
<smasher> 
0-4-2
<Lakituthequick> 
a
<Meta_Knight> 
n
<Gamefreak75> 
a
<Anton{Politoed}> 
n
<smasher> 
0-6-4
<smasher> 
the dream is dead
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
n
<mcd> 
the team is dead
<__2257> 
a
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add "Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions" to M30? (y/n/a)
<smasher> 
0-7-5
<Gamefreak75> 
n
<Baby_Luigi> 
a
<smasher> 
n
<mcd> 
n
<Lakituthequick> 
n
<smasher> 
im just too _____ on adding a remake
<Stargazing> 
a
<smasher> 
0-4-2
<Anton{Politoed}> 
n
<smasher> 
0-5-2
<Baby_Luigi> 
Even if the remake is actually good and not a cash-in?
<smasher> 
yes
<turb> 
n
<smasher> 
its still a remake
<Meta_Knight> 
n
<__2257> 
n
<Lakituthequick> 
fun fact: companies don't remake games if they won't make money
<smasher> 
im just not fully surre it counts
<Meta_Knight> 
the thing is though
<Baby_Luigi> 
Companies don't make games if they won't make money
<smasher> 
and the original never did well on this to begin with
<Meta_Knight> 
superstar saga remake feels liike a cashin
<Anton{Politoed}> 
any other considerations for M30?
<Meta_Knight> 
bis remake even more so
<smasher> 
0-8-2 btw
<smasher> 
id say make this 18 if i had two more suggestions
<__2257> 
regardless of whether its a cash in, i wouldnt put it on this award
<mcd> 
don't think so
<smasher> 
so unless anyone else does id move on
<mcd> 
looks like we're done with mario
<Anton{Politoed}> 
if that's it we can move on to Fail Awards
<__2257> 
i think a remake of a classic game is a classic game, even if its newer
<smasher> 
^
<Baby_Luigi> 
i think it depends on what has changed
<Baby_Luigi> 
which something like SSS + BM clearly isn't
<Anton{Politoed}> 
F1 Worst Character (Mario, Princess Daisy, Waluigi, Wario, Petey Piranha, Birdo, Mimi, Starlow, Lubba, Princess Peach, Bowser Jr., Toad, Fawful, Pink Gold Peach, Baby Rosalina, Kersti, Rosalina)
<Lakituthequick> 
15) Bowser Jr. — 34 — 1.47%
<Lakituthequick> 
16) Petey Piranha — 27 — 1.17%
<Lakituthequick> 
17) Princess Peach — 20 — 0.87%
<Lakituthequick> 
18) O. Luigi — 5 — 0.22%
<Lakituthequick> 
19) O. Bowser — 4 — 0.17%
<Lakituthequick> 
19) O. Dimentio — 4 — 0.17%
<Baby_Luigi> 
I wouldn't change anything
<Lakituthequick> 
nope
<smasher> 
i wouldnt either
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm up for removing Peach
<smasher> 
i cant think of anything newer
<Anton{Politoed}> 
but let me check to see if she's been low on this consistently
<Lakituthequick> 
possible
<Gamefreak75> 
all of the rabbids
<Baby_Luigi> 
Broodals
<__2257> 
i want to lol
<smasher> 
well id be ok with removing peach
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
if peach has been consistently super low i'd like to cut her
<Lakituthequick> 
peach is officially not terrible apparently
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
maybe also petey?
<Baby_Luigi> 
yeah I'd cut Petey over peach
<Anton{Politoed}> 
2016
<Anton{Politoed}> 
16) Mario — 41 — 1.53% 17) Princess Peach — 29 — 1.08% 18) O. Bowser — 13 — 0.49%
<turb> 
I'd definitely rather cut peach
<smasher> 
definitely cut peach over petey
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
if 2015 is also low
<Lakituthequick> 
yaeh
<mcd> 
yeah id cut peach
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
then i fully support cutting peach
<Anton{Politoed}> 
10) Starlow — 69 — 2.57% 11) Petey Piranha — 61 — 2.28% 11) Wario — 61 — 2.28%
<Anton{Politoed}> 
this is Petey's first time really being that low so it's not as strong of a contender but _
<Anton{Politoed}> 
so
<Baby_Luigi> 
I'll leave it
<smasher> 
id leave petey
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Remove "Princess Peach" from F1 Worst Character? (y/n/a)
<Anton{Politoed}> 
y
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
y
<Lakituthequick> 
y
<Baby_Luigi> 
a
<smasher> 
y
<mcd> 
y
<__2257> 
y
<Shoey> 
a
<Gamefreak75> 
y
<Anton{Politoed}> 
i'm so happy
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
also yeah
<smasher> 
7-0-2
<turb> 
y
<smasher> 
8-0-2
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'm gonna withdraw my idea to cut petey
<smasher> 
the princess is safe
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
peach is consistently low, petey might have been a fluke
<smasher> 
yeah
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
so leave him on at least this year
<Meta_Knight> 
y
<smasher> 
9-02
<smasher> 
9-0-2
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
9-2
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
who voted no
<Stargazing> 
y
<Anton{Politoed}> 
any characters to add?
<Baby_Luigi> 
eh, I don't like Peach but I have the unupopular opinion here
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I literally hated all of the broodals so it'd be hard to pick one or two
<Baby_Luigi> 
Broodals
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
can i just nominate Characters Anton Doesn't Like
<Meta_Knight> 
lets just add them all as a collective group
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
as one big nominee
<Meta_Knight> 
throw in rabbids too
<Baby_Luigi> 
They're one of the worst parts of Odyssey
<mcd> 
i've got to head to bed, goodnight
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
night
 
mcd has left irc.darkmyst.org:6697 (Quit: z)
<smasher> 
zero 2 from kirby voted no
<Lakituthequick> 
if any it would be harriet because i don't like her alugh at all
<Baby_Luigi> 
idk people like Harriet
<Lakituthequick> 
did they
<Baby_Luigi> 
I have no idea why she's an annoying turd
<Anton{Politoed}> 
if I had to choose one to like it'd be hariet
<smasher> 
a broodal/rabbid wouldnt be a bad addition
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I think spewart looks the dumbest
<Gamefreak75> 
rango > the others dont @ me
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
because people wanna fuck her
<Gamefreak75> 
^
<Baby_Luigi> 
why
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
furries
<Baby_Luigi> 
she's a fucking rabbit
<Gamefreak75> 
furries
<smasher> 
furries
<Lord_Bowser> 
im feeling very awkward and anxious but im hwre
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
hi lb
<Meta_Knight> 
it be like adding one koopaling though
<Lord_Bowser> 
spewart is easily the worst
<turb> 
i just think she has a good design compared to the rest of them
<Meta_Knight> 
as opposed to all of them
<Gamefreak75> 
id be fine with grouping them all tbh
<Meta_Knight> 
but 5 nominees for something all the sam eis also terrible
<smasher> 
idk if i would add a group of characters for worst character
<Lakituthequick> 
it's a dishonour to be on this poll so i feel fine adding just one
<Baby_Luigi> 
I like Madame Broode the most because she's the most over-the-top
<smasher> 
even if they probably deserve it
<smasher> 
i dont oppose adding just one
<Baby_Luigi> 
Spewart has a dumb design
<Lakituthequick> 
broode is pretty funny yeah
<smasher> 
which one was spewart i cant fucking remember the males names
<Baby_Luigi> 
It's Morton Bunny
<Lord_Bowser> 
the one who spits poison
<smasher> 
ok that was my guess
<smasher> 
hes bad
<Baby_Luigi> 
Rango looks quirky and Topper is bland as far as i'm concerned
<Anton{Politoed}> 
ok idk how to approach this so
<Anton{Politoed}> 
are there any other characters beyond broodals people want to add
<Lakituthequick> 
fwiw there was a suggestion to add Jojora to this in the general discussion thread
<Meta_Knight> 
rabbids
<Baby_Luigi> 
Yeah I remember that
<Lakituthequick> 
no opinions otherwise
<Baby_Luigi> 
but idk how terrible she is
<Baby_Luigi> 
She has only one small appearance as a minor boss fight
<Anton{Politoed}> 
she got no votes ever so I'm not considering it
<Anton{Politoed}> 
are any rabbids distinguishable enough or just
<Baby_Luigi> 
Rabbids..do they even count?
<Anton{Politoed}> 
"Rabbids"
<smasher> 
im not familiar with jojora enough but if thats the case probably not
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
jojora is really minor
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
one boss fight in one game
<Lakituthequick> 
exactly my thoughts
<Baby_Luigi> 
exactly too
<turb> 
jojora exists for the whole level i think but she's really minor
<smasher> 
rabbids might count since when theyre not in costumes theyre all the same
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
she does
<turb> 
i think rabbids are just rabbids
<Baby_Luigi> 
As for Rabbids, idk it feels weird because they're not Mario characters
<turb> 
no distinct characters
<Baby_Luigi> 
Rabbid Mario, Rabbid Luigi, Rabbid Peach, and Rabbid Yoshi
<Lakituthequick> 
per blof
<Anton{Politoed}> 
there is a Worst Enemy award but they're not really enemies
<Anton{Politoed}> 
but we'll get to that when we get there
<Baby_Luigi> 
All of those Rabbid protagonists in the Mario + Rabbids are interchangeable to me
<smasher> 
i think im indifferent to adding a rabbid
<Baby_Luigi> 
Rabbid Peach is...ugh
<Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so we can do both broodals and rabbids similarly, by choosing which of the 4 you would want to add, if any at all
<Shoey> 
i'm against adding rabbids
<Lakituthequick> 
the 'character' rabbids are just rabbids cosplaying if anything
<Meta_Knight> 
as much as i hate the rabbids i agree with whats been said
<Baby_Luigi> 
Well they do have their own personalities too
<Meta_Knight> 
like we've never added final fantasy characters even when they made a cameo
<smasher> 
fair
<Baby_Luigi> 
They're not Mario character so
<Baby_Luigi> 
I'm not for adding them
<Gamefreak75> 
no ones suggested them tbh
<Meta_Knight> 
if theyre popular as a write in then we can consider them
<Lakituthequick> 
^
<smasher> 
^
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: If we're to add any broodal to F1, please select which one (Hariet/Rango/Spewert/Topper/a)
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
^
<turb> 
spewart
<Gamefreak75> 
sp
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
a
<Baby_Luigi> 
Spewart
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Spewart
<smasher> 
spewart
<Lakituthequick> 
Hariet
<Meta_Knight> 
spewart
<__2257> 
s
<Baby_Luigi> 
(as much as I want to add Harriet)
<smasher> 
1-0-7-0-1
<Anton{Politoed}> 
gr8
<smasher> 
spewart it is
<Lord_Bowser> 
spewart
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add "Spewart" to F1? (y/n/a)
<smasher> 
1-0-8-0-1
<smasher> 
y
<Baby_Luigi> 
y
<Lakituthequick> 
y
<Anton{Politoed}> 
e*
<Shoey> 
a
<Anton{Politoed}> 
y
<smasher> 
4-0-1
<turb> 
y
<smasher> 
5-0-1
<Lakituthequick> 
Spewart, with an a
<Gamefreak75> 
y
<smasher> 
spewaart
<Anton{Politoed}> 
is it ??? I copy/pasted it
<__2257> 
a
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
a
<Anton{Politoed}> 
let me check again
<turb> 
yeah it's spewart
<Lakituthequick> 
Spewart is correct
<turb> 
in the dialogue
<smasher> 
6-0-3
<Lakituthequick> 
<Lord_Bowser> 
im a bit confused as to why you highlighted it if it was correct
<Gamefreak75> 
lol
<Stargazing> 
a
<smasher> 
6-0-4
<Anton{Politoed}> 
whoops i had to afk suddenly
<Anton{Politoed}> 
but spewart is added
<Anton{Politoed}> 
one more vote and i'll close the meeting
<smasher> 
anything else?
<smasher> 
oh lol
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add any Rabbid to F1? (y/n/a)
<smasher> 
n
<Gamefreak75> 
y
<Lakituthequick> 
n
<Anton{Politoed}> 
if Y we'll pick something
<Anton{Politoed}> 
but I say n
<Shoey> 
n
<turb> 
n
<smasher> 
1-5-0
<Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
n
<smasher> 
1-6-0
<Anton{Politoed}> 
gr8
<smasher> 
the rabbids go free
<Baby_Luigi> 
n
<Meta_Knight> 
n
<smasher> 
1-8-0
<Anton{Politoed}> 
so I'll go lob stuff on the forum
<Anton{Politoed}> 
and next meeting we'll finalize that all and continue with Fail Awards
<Anton{Politoed}> 
we did it
Anton{Politoed} bangs the gavel against 22's head