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<turb>
hi
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<turb>
it's time
<turb>
so basically uhh
<turb>
polls
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<smasher>
h
<turb>
if you haven't already voted or acknowledged them then go vote
<Toadbert>
question
<turb>
what's the question
<Lord_Bowser>
im here
<turb>
my question is why google docs won't load
<Gamefreak75>
nintendo is never going to let us finish fave costume
<turb>
anyway once we get enough votes, 9 or so, or people acknowledging they can't vote
<turb>
we can finalize nominees
<Gamefreak75>
since they released two more like 3 days ago
<Gamefreak75>
idk how popular the 2 new costumes are though
<Toadbert>
what if i cant vote
<Lakituthequick>
I have voted
<turb>
oh yeah they did do that with the dlc didn't they
<Shoey>
i've voted
<Lakituthequick>
Mainly for the ones that were extracted from M twenty-something
<turb>
I think it's late enough that we should just accept them as writeins
<Lakituthequick>
it was a baseball and satelliteview costume right
<turb>
yeah
<smasher>
i haven't voted because i don't remember leve3
<turb>
yoshi level seems to have enough votes to finalize
<Gamefreak75>
works for me
<turb>
idk where 22 is
<smasher>
levels
<__2257>
here
<turb>
hi
<__2257>
do you want to close yoshi
<turb>
i'll give it a few more minutes since there's only 7 voters for dk/wario
<smasher>
I don't know if i have time to look them up
<Lord_Bowser>
i cant vote on wario
<Gamefreak75>
just vote for my nominationss
<Lord_Bowser>
but i voted for yoshi/dk
<turb>
so if there's anyone who wants to do that who hasn't voted and can vote then now's the time
<smasher>
i voted for costume a while ago at least
<Gamefreak75>
you can trust me
<mcd>
i can't vote on wario and don't really know dk well enough to
<Shoey>
God guys
<mcd>
did vote on yoshi though
<Shoey>
I can't believe you all voted against those sweet dkc 3 levels
<Toadbert>
i couldve prevented this
<turb>
ok well
<Lord_Bowser>
tb take over the ac
<turb>
at :10 or so I'll probably close votes and get polls
<Gamefreak75>
barely anyone voted for tf levels
<turb>
or just leave them open and finalize post meeting but _
<smasher>
id vote at least one dkc3 level if i remembered one shoey
<Anton{Awaytoed}>
I'm back
<turb>
hi
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<__2257>
that was a quick 30 minutes
<turb>
you can take over now if you want
<Gamefreak75>
shame how poor taste thecommunit has
<Gamefreak75>
community
<turb>
i've just been here waiting for everyone to get back so they can actually vote if they haven't lol
<smasher>
tf is a great game
<__2257>
literally nobody played tropical freeze
<turb>
but i assume everyone who's gone afk has already voted
<Anton{Politoed}>
but hey guys even with the "idk enough to be able to vote" we still are missing a solid 6-7 people from saying or doing anything
<__2257>
nintendo didnt have a console to play it on
<Anton{Politoed}>
and that's more than I care for for something that we've been focusing on for 2-3 weeks now
<turb>
yeah
<Anton{Politoed}>
so as a general reminder and not me actively doing anything about it right now
<Gamefreak75>
which exemplifies how poors taste people have
<Anton{Politoed}>
if you don't want to participate, you can leave
<Anton{Politoed}>
:)
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
hi
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i'm here now
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
voted on both polls i could and have already said which ones i can't so i'm done either way
<Gamefreak75>
vote tf levels so the poll isnt dkc1/2 bias
<turb>
honestly i just voted 1/2/3 because i never played TF lol
<Gamefreak75>
smh
<turb>
or barely enough to experience most of it
<turb>
blame the wii u
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
ast least New Funky Mode will rescue it soon
<Gamefreak75>
its ok tf swithc comes out soonss
<Anton{Politoed}>
also with how low these vote totals are, there's bound to be a boatload of ties
<__2257>
the wii who
<turb>
also yeah it's hard to keep track of who can't vote in polls and who's just ignoring it
<turb>
so
<turb>
_
<Anton{Politoed}>
which will spur us into having to do what we did for Favorite Costume
<Gamefreak75>
people can correct their sins
<Anton{Politoed}>
which'll be another week of polls for M5-7
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
prime 4 when
<smasher>
when the port comes out you will have no excuse
<Lakituthequick>
There's a 6-way tie for 14th in the Yoshi level poll right now
<smasher>
ill try to vote when im done working in a few minutes
<smasher>
need to look this shit up
<smasher>
time
<Gamefreak75>
i hope ys gets at least one level in
<Gamefreak75>
so it wont be yoshis island: the poll
<turb>
don't worry i tried to vote for YS
<turb>
good game
<Anton{Politoed}>
is there anyone actively voting right now
<Lakituthequick>
Jungle Hut (YS) is 6th so it'll ve good
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
not me
<Lakituthequick>
*be
<turb>
already voted for everything
<Gamefreak75>
i voted on all the polls btw
<Lakituthequick>
also yeah I've voted a few days ago
<Gamefreak75>
so im good
<Lord_Bowser>
ive voted/acknowledged all polls
<Gamefreak75>
ill create an alt account and vote if needed
<Gamefreak75>
dont tell the mods
<Anton{Politoed}>
thx
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
too late
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i'm telling
<smasher>
banning now
<Anton{Politoed}>
how about this one
<Anton{Politoed}>
<Anton{Politoed}>
vote in this one as well
<Gamefreak75>
i did
<Lakituthequick>
did too
<Anton{Politoed}>
I'm locking M5-7 right now and will just resolve it as we did with Favorite Costume, and those polls will be put up later
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
done
<Gamefreak75>
cant believe tostarena is losing
<Anton{Politoed}>
not going to discuss which nominees made it into M5-7 right now
<Gamefreak75>
at least chef is there
<turb>
that means it'll stay on the award at least
<turb>
the vote was to remove 2
<Shoey>
yeah gamefreak
<smasher>
voted
<Anton{Politoed}>
my fetish is the vote count skyrocketing on all 4 of these polls only after they're forced into the meeting despite there being ample time for a week or two before
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<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
sounds complicate
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
*complicated
<Shoey>
play tropical freeze you fucks
<Lakituthequick>
o lol πŸ…±OWSER'S πŸ‘ πŸ…±IG πŸ‘ πŸ…±LAST πŸŒ‹πŸŒ‹πŸŒ‹ is still in the docs
<Anton{Politoed}>
is anyone still actively voting in the Costume poll
<Lakituthequick>
Shoey I'm going to buy the Switch version
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
no
<Anton{Politoed}>
this poll is to choose 2 that you DON'T want in the award
<Shoey>
not good enough ltq
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
look shoey there's only one game on wii u that hasn't been rereleased or will be for another system
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
it's not enough
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
/not enough/
<Anton{Politoed}>
Favorite Costume poll is locked and I will resolve the outcome of it after the meeting
<Anton{Politoed}>
so next up is deciding nominees for Favorite Song !
<Anton{Politoed}>
<Lakituthequick>
Chef and Swimwear lost
<Lakituthequick>
or won
<Lakituthequick>
got the most votes
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
dammit ltq
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
your avatar confused me
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
also if we need more cartoon ones
<Lakituthequick>
oh
<Lakituthequick>
I forgot my avatar did that
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i have far more knowledge of the cartoon songs than anyone ever should have
<Anton{Politoed}>
the list Ltq made up is:
<Anton{Politoed}>
Ashley's Song Break Free (Lead the Way) DK Rap Do the Mario Jump Up, Super Star! Karaoke (Medamayaki) The Mario Drawing Song Mona Pizza Phantom of the Bwahpera
<Gamefreak75>
eddy the mean old yeti or riot
<Anton{Politoed}>
with blocky adding on
<Anton{Politoed}>
Eddie, Let Me Go Back To My Home, Pirate's Scorn, and I'm Leo Luster
<Shoey>
can't believe we aren't including the best mario song
<Meta_Knight>
is there anything in ddr mario mix with lyrics
<Anton{Politoed}>
is that a complete selection from everyone's ideas?
<Shoey>
the super mario world show theme
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
that's all i plan to suggest
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i'd add metal head if diddy's voice didn't SUCK in it
<Shoey>
I suggest the super mario world show theme
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
fuckin' diddy
<Lord_Bowser>
im fine with the current nominees
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
also i'm down for shoey's
<turb>
I don't have any suggestions
<smasher>
i can't think of anything not already on the list
<Lakituthequick>
If anything only the thing Shoey suggest and the DKC intro theme but otherwise no additions from me
<Shoey>
yeah the smw show them is good shit
<Gamefreak75>
wait fuck was the costume poll to remove 2?
<Shoey>
also yeah the dkc theme is good shit
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
yes
<Meta_Knight>
im fine with that
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<Anton{Politoed}>
yep that's what the thing said
<Shoey>
i'd support both themes
<Gamefreak75>
i voted for the ones i wanted to keep
<Stargazing>
sorry im late!
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
Oops
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
hi star
<Shoey>
you did it wrong than
<Gamefreak75>
im dumb
<Stargazing>
i thought i logged in but i fucked up
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
we're discussing favorite song rn
<Stargazing>
sorry yall
<Stargazing>
oh good!
<smasher>
gamefreak you dunce
<Anton{Politoed}>
do any of these songs need like
<Anton{Politoed}>
name changes
<Anton{Politoed}>
or something, like
<Anton{Politoed}>
to include where it's from
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
hmmm
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i think that would be good
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
help people look it up so they can listen
<turb>
I think they'd benefit from descriptive subtitles beyond the obvious ones like the smw show theme or whatever
<mcd>
are we still able to add songs
<mcd>
if so what about the jimmy one from warioware diy
<turb>
unless that has a name and isn't immediately identifiable as Super Mario World Show Theme
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<turb>
like medamayaki would benefit
<Shoey>
does jimmy t's have lyrics
<Lakituthequick>
Also the comma in "Eddie, Let Me Go Back To My Home" can potentially be confusing because of how this stuff is listed
<Lakituthequick>
beware
<Gamefreak75>
yes
<Anton{Politoed}>
sure but it would be easier to post in the thread so I can group them so I don't have to look at that and then also what people are saying in here
<Gamefreak75>
i dont know if the jimmy t song has a name though
<Anton{Politoed}>
ok so what we'll do since people are just now/still adding nominee ideas
<Anton{Politoed}>
is we're going to keep this on the forum and not do anything with Favorite Song right now
<Anton{Politoed}>
but in that thread we will bring it to completion with finalizing the nominee list and how we're naming them
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
that sounds ogod to me
<Anton{Politoed}>
so next meeting we can be :thumbsup: at it
<turb>
gr8
<smasher>
fine with me
<Anton{Politoed}>
this means there needs to be complete participation with this so it's finished
<Anton{Politoed}>
and not scrambling to do it during the meeting it was meant to be finished on, like right now and with M5-7
<Anton{Politoed}>
unironically pretty pissed that this is happening
<Anton{Politoed}>
so anyways moving on
<Anton{Politoed}>
with those things being unable to resolve right now, the next thing is continuing on with Mario awards
<Anton{Politoed}>
and we left off at M26
<Anton{Politoed}>
which should be easier since we don't gotta move a bunch of stuff around with it
<Anton{Politoed}>
M26 Favorite 3D Mario Level (Toy Time Galaxy (SMG), Good Egg Galaxy (SMG), Gusty Garden Galaxy (SMG), Whomp's Fortress/Throwback Galaxy (SM64/SMG2), Grandmaster Galaxy (SMG2), Cosmic Cove Galaxy (SMG2), Bob-omb Battlefield (SM64), Tick Tock Clock (SM64), Pinna Park (SMS), Sirena Beach (SMS), Delfino Plaza/Airstrip (SMS), Mount Must Dash (SM3DW),
<Anton{Politoed}>
The Great Tower of Bowser Land (SM3DW), Champion's Road (SM3DW), World 2-3 (SM3DL), Special 7-3 (SM3DL), Slimy Spring Galaxy (SMG2), The Great Goal Pole (SM3DW))
<Lakituthequick>
16) Slimy Spring Galaxy (SMG2) — 37 — 1.81%
<Lakituthequick>
17) World 2-3 (SM3DL) — 30 — 1.46%
<Lakituthequick>
18) Special 7-3 (SM3DL) — 19 — 0.93%
<Lakituthequick>
19) O. Noki Bay (SMS) — 8 — 0.39%
<Lakituthequick>
19) O. Space Junk Galaxy (SMG) — 8 — 0.39%
<Lakituthequick>
21) O. Freezeflame Galaxy (SMG) — 6 — 0.29%
<Meta_Knight>
should we include odyssey kingdoms or should that be its own thing
<Gamefreak75>
include
<Meta_Knight>
if the former we should add metro and bowser kingdom at least
<Lakituthequick>
I have in my notes: Add Metro Kingdom: New Donk City, Wooded Kingdom: Steam Gardens
<Lord_Bowser>
metro, bowser, sand, and moon would all be good choices to add imo
<Anton{Politoed}>
I didn't play the galaxy games so how are those in comparison to how the Odyssey kingdoms are done
<Lord_Bowser>
theyre more linear
<Anton{Politoed}>
like, I guess there's SM64 levels on here and those are more comparable so _________
<turb>
structured as entirely separate enterable missions
<Meta_Knight>
just looking at this list id be okay replacing toy time with a kingdom
<Lakituthequick>
haven't played galaxy either
<mcd>
would we add the kingdoms themselves or specific locations inside them
<turb>
they're linear and the world is different each time
<Meta_Knight>
because toy time has the luigi purple coins comet that people hate
<Shoey>
well meta we should knock the lowest vote getters off first
<turb>
kingdoms themselves would make more sense
<mcd>
id agree
<Lord_Bowser>
probably knock off 2-3 and 7-3
<Anton{Politoed}>
there's 18 nominees on this already right now so everything we add would cost removing something else
<Meta_Knight>
yeah but i said this before looking at the result shoey lol
<Gamefreak75>
64 and sunshine stages are on there
<Gamefreak75>
so odyssey is fine
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i'd be willing to chop off some of the bottom ones
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
so that we can add odyssey
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
like, 1 sec
<Shoey>
out with the old in with the new
<smasher>
id want bowsers/metro/moon
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
gonna look at the full results for something
<Shoey>
I think sand would be a good addition
<Lord_Bowser>
metro/bowser/sand/moon
<smasher>
id be willing to kill the bottom three for them
<Gamefreak75>
metro/bowser/wooded
<Lord_Bowser>
is priority order for me
<Lakituthequick>
getting rid of the two 3D Land things to enter SMO sounds good
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
14) Grandmaster Galaxy (SMG2) — 62 — 3.03%
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
15) The Great Goal Pole (SM3DW) — 59 — 2.88%
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
16) Slimy Spring Galaxy (SMG2) — 37 — 1.81%
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i'd be willing to take into account the huge gap down
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
and just cut the bottom three out for odyssey
<smasher>
yeah
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
so 2-3, 7-2, and slimy sprig
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
*spring
<Shoey>
but which kingdoms?
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
that, i cannot contribute to
<mcd>
id be happy to cut more for odyssey tbh if we need to
<Shoey>
cause it looks like there have been 5 nominated
<Shoey>
same mcd
<Lord_Bowser>
same
<Anton{Politoed}>
yeah let's vote on that first
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
yeah, we can go up for a couple more
<Lakituthequick>
metro at the very least as eveyone mentioned that one
<Gamefreak75>
metros a given imo
<Meta_Knight>
definitely metro
<turb>
yeah
<Shoey>
donk city bitch
<mcd>
i heard bowser and wooded mentioned earlier
<Meta_Knight>
aside that i personally want bowser kingdom but idk if anyone else wants that
<Lord_Bowser>
should we just autoreplace the bottom nominee with metro and then vote from there
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Remove all 3 of: The Great Goal Pole (SM3DW), Slimy Spring Galaxy (SMG2), and World 2-3 (SM3DL)? (y/n/a)
<Shoey>
y
<Lord_Bowser>
y
<Meta_Knight>
y
<Anton{Politoed}>
y
<Lakituthequick>
y
<__2257>
a
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
y
<mcd>
and 7-2, right?
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
yeah
<Gamefreak75>
wait theres one lower than goal pole
<Shoey>
wasn' there another nomine we were gonna eliminate
<Anton{Politoed}>
wait whoops
<Anton{Politoed}>
yeah i flubbed
<Shoey>
but all 4 fuck it
<Gamefreak75>
im y for removing all those 4 tbh though
<Shoey>
cut
<Anton{Politoed}>
I meant the bottom 3
<Lord_Bowser>
same
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i'm okay with just lopping off goal pole
<turb>
y
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
and giving us an extra odyssey slot
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
so my vote stays "y and also kill 7-2"
<mcd>
we can always add it back if we can't decide on a fourth
<smasher>
y
<Shoey>
my vote also stays y
<mcd>
y and kill 7-2/goal pole
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
yeah
<Meta_Knight>
y
<Lord_Bowser>
y, kill bottom 4
<Meta_Knight>
odyssey is so fresh that i feel it has a huge impact on everything
<Anton{Politoed}>
I can't really see anyone missing it and no one's complained so I'll just do that all yeah
<smasher>
y kill bottom 4
<Gamefreak75>
y to bottom 4
<Anton{Politoed}>
ok so i'm seeing:
<Meta_Knight>
y
<Lakituthequick>
so how to format SMO things
<Anton{Politoed}>
metro/bowser/wooded/sand/moon
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
Metro Kingdom (SMO)?
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
and such
<Meta_Knight>
per perch
<Anton{Politoed}>
are there any others people are burning for
<Lakituthequick>
Kingdom: Location, Kingdom, or Location
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
...what/
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
?
<Gamefreak75>
just kingdomss
<Meta_Knight>
i feel we should omit city names/specific names
<Anton{Politoed}>
just kingdom yeah
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i thought we were just putting in the kingdoms wholesale
<Anton{Politoed}>
that's how I have it in my notes for other things
<Lord_Bowser>
each kingdom has a location subtitle perch
<Lakituthequick>
..what?
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
oh
<Lord_Bowser>
i.e metro's subtitle is new donk city
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
just kingdoms, imo
<Shoey>
kingdoms will suffice
<Lord_Bowser>
wooded's is steam gardens
<Shoey>
anyone who'd vote them will know what it is
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i still haven't played odyssey i'm doing my best
<turb>
kingdoms are obvious enough since thats whats displayed on the map
<Lakituthequick>
So Metro Kingdom is a given
<Anton{Politoed}>
each kingdom has a subsection though
<Anton{Politoed}>
does this matter to this
<Anton{Politoed}>
I doubt it but I figured I'd raise the point
<Meta_Knight>
i would say its fine if its just the kingdom
<Meta_Knight>
its not like it doesnt include the city
<Lord_Bowser>
i guess one name might be more familiar to someone than another
<Meta_Knight>
the city is in the kingdom
<Meta_Knight>
but theres part of the kingdom not in the city
<Lord_Bowser>
the wiki prioritizes kingdom names though
<Lord_Bowser>
the subtitles are redirects
<Shoey>
I doubt most people know all the subsection names
<Lord_Bowser>
i.e. new donk city redirects to metro kingdom
<Shoey>
I only knew Donk City
<Meta_Knight>
the kingdom name is whats on the map you select
<Lakituthequick>
.... Kingdom is clear enough so
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<Meta_Knight>
just put "the entire planet (SMO)" and call it a day /s
<Meta_Knight>
what about mushroom kingdom tho
<Lakituthequick>
Mushroom Kingdom: Peach' Castle
<Meta_Knight>
actually nvm the ones we're suggesting is fine
<turb>
subtitle it as smo if it gets in but it doesn't look like it will
<Lakituthequick>
so are we gonna choose which of the five (metro/bowser/wooded/sand/moon) we aren't going to put in or
<Anton{Politoed}>
is there anyone who's absolutely against just the Kingdom name
<Lord_Bowser>
not me
<Gamefreak75>
no
<Lakituthequick>
Kingdom is perfectly okay
<smasher>
i support it just being the kingdom nam
<smasher>
e
<Meta_Knight>
maybe have a vote for the one people dont want in out of those 5
<Anton{Politoed}>
gr88, so are those the only 5 people suggest
<Lakituthequick>
ye
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Select the one you do not want to be included in M26 (metro/bowser/wooded/sand/moon/a)
<Anton{Politoed}>
moon
<__2257>
moon
<Gamefreak75>
moon
<Meta_Knight>
moon
<Lakituthequick>
moon
<Shoey>
moon
<smasher>
wooded
<Lord_Bowser>
wooded
<smasher>
0-0-2-0-5
<turb>
moon
<smasher>
rip moon kingdom
<Anton{Politoed}>
yeah rip moon
<Anton{Politoed}>
updating the sheet now
<Lakituthequick>
Metro Kingdom, Bowser's Kingdom, Wooded Kingdom, Sand Kingdom from memory
<Anton{Politoed}>
any other concerns for M26?
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
none from me
<Lakituthequick>
nee
<turb>
no
<Anton{Politoed}>
gr888888888
<Anton{Politoed}>
M27 Favorite Boss Battle (Tubba Blubba (Paper Mario), Phantamanta (Super Mario Sunshine), Brobot (Super Paper Mario), Rawk Hawk (PM:TTYD), Bowser in the Sky (Super Mario 64), Kaptain K. Rool 1 and 2 (DKC2), Super Dimentio (Super Paper Mario), Elder Princess Shroob (M&L: PiT), Megaleg (Super Mario Galaxy), General Guy (Paper Mario),
<Anton{Politoed}>
Kingfin (Super Mario Galaxy), Motley Bossblob (SM3DW), Tiki Tong (DKCR), Popple and Rookie (M&L: SS), Dark Bowser (M&L: BIS), Bowser/Meowser (SM3DW), Bowser (Super Mario Galaxy), Shiny RoboBowser (M&L: PJ))
<Lord_Bowser>
nope
<Anton{Politoed}>
along with updating some of these to have abbreviated game names
<Lakituthequick>
16) Motley Bossblob (SM3DW) — 42 — 2.00%
<Lakituthequick>
17) Tubba Blubba (PM) — 39 — 1.85%
<Lakituthequick>
18) Tiki Tong (DKCR) — 20 — 0.95%
<Lakituthequick>
19) O. Bouldergeist (SMG) — 9 — 0.43%
<Lakituthequick>
20) O. Baby Bowser (YI) — 8 — 0.38%
<Lakituthequick>
21) O. Bowser (Super Mario Galaxy 2) — 7 — 0.33%
<Lakituthequick>
21) O. Hisstocrat (SM3DW) — 7 — 0.33%
<Anton{Politoed}>
this is at 18 nominees
<Shoey>
dragon from odyssey
<Gamefreak75>
rip tiki tong
<Meta_Knight>
dragon was underwhelming
<Lord_Bowser>
tbh i really liked mollusque-lanceur
<Anton{Politoed}>
the dragon fucking sucked and I wish it was just not included in the game at all
<Shoey>
meta we fought a goddamn dark souls boss
<Meta_Knight>
my vote is for mechawiggler
<Gamefreak75>
id vote for torkdrift or mollusque
<Anton{Politoed}>
but it was visually cool
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
draggadon
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
:)
<Lakituthequick>
Ruined Dragon was definitely underwhelming but cool
<Anton{Politoed}>
here's all of the options
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i have no contributions to odyssey, though
<Anton{Politoed}>
Madame Broode, Knucklotec, Torkdrift, Bowser, Mechawiggler, Mollusque-Lanceur, Cookatiel, Ruined Dragon, RoboBrood
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
so i'll be sitting this part out
<Shoey>
oh yeah I love fist god
<Anton{Politoed}>
out of those I really liked Knucklotec, Torkdrift, and Mechawiggler
<Lord_Bowser>
mollusque-lanceur, torkdrift, and mechawiggler get my vote
<Anton{Politoed}>
Mollusque-Lanceur looked cool and I love him but it was really annoying
<Gamefreak75>
im with lb on this
<Lakituthequick>
Knucklotec is pretty neat yeah
<Meta_Knight>
whats torkdrift
<Lord_Bowser>
the wooded kingdom boss
<Lakituthequick>
UFO that eats flowers
<Anton{Politoed}>
the wooded kingdom ufo thing
<Lord_Bowser>
flower ufo
<Meta_Knight>
oh
<Meta_Knight>
yeah i want mechawiggler and knucklotec
<Meta_Knight>
idk about a thrid
<Shoey>
sub out the squid for the knuckle boy
<Meta_Knight>
*third
<Shoey>
and that's my vote
<turb>
I'd say torkdrift and mechawiggler imo
<turb>
but i like both
<Anton{Politoed}>
we haven't removed any yet so there's no set number on what to add
<turb>
i'd be better off just voting when polls come up after removals are made
<Meta_Knight>
remove the bottom 3 again i suppose
<Meta_Knight>
and we can add from there
<Meta_Knight>
and if we want more we can
<Anton{Politoed}>
it's kind of a smooth decline in numbers down the list so there's no obvious cutoff
<Lakituthequick>
between 15 and 16 is a slightly larger difference than a bit around it
<Anton{Politoed}>
so how about we vote like this
<Anton{Politoed}>
<Anton{Politoed}>
here's the complete results so you can all see the list
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Remove how many from the bottom of M27? (0/1/2/3/4/5/a)
<Gamefreak75>
3
<Stargazing>
3
<mcd>
3
<Lakituthequick>
3
<__2257>
a
<Shoey>
a
<turb>
3
<Anton{Politoed}>
3
<Meta_Knight>
3
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
3
<smasher>
op3
<smasher>
3
<Lord_Bowser>
3
<smasher>
why is there op
<Lakituthequick>
this will remove Motley, Tubba and Tiki
<Anton{Politoed}>
looks like 3 so that'll be
<Anton{Politoed}>
yeah that
<Shoey>
damn why did we never add steak to favorite boss fight
<smasher>
a sad day for tubba
<smasher>
10-0-2
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<Lakituthequick>
...steak is a good one actually
<Lakituthequick>
darn
<Baby_Luigi>
sorry, I didn't pay attention to the time
<Shoey>
lop another boss fight off and add steak :P
<Lakituthequick>
i mean techically we could add steak and two smo ones
<smasher>
what was steak again
<Lakituthequick>
colour splash boss
<Shoey>
it was the boss fight in color splash
<Lord_Bowser>
did mario and rabbids have any good boss fights actually
<Shoey>
where you had to cook a steak
<Lakituthequick>
you defeat it by seasoning it
<Shoey>
it was part of why color splash is so good
<turb>
i thought steak was already brought up one of the other years and ultimately not added
<smasher>
weird
<turb>
i guess that's not a case against it definitively
<Anton{Politoed}>
lb has a good question
<Meta_Knight>
i havent played mario and rabbids so idk
<Anton{Politoed}>
did rabbids have anything for this award
<smasher>
i played color splash for half an hour
<smasher>
and rabbids too
<Shoey>
I don't really remember the bosses anton
<Lakituthequick>
is rabbid kong a good boss(tm)
<smasher>
i need to play that more before i can conttribute a boss
<Lakituthequick>
i haven't played the ham so
<Lakituthequick>
*game
<Lakituthequick>
(ham?)
<Shoey>
I kind of remember all the bosses being annoying tbh
<Lord_Bowser>
steamed games
<Lord_Bowser>
well if theyre only memorable for being annoying then theyre probably not good nominees
<Lakituthequick>
yeah
<Lakituthequick>
can always look at write-ins next year
<Lord_Bowser>
man the problem is only like 2 people total played mario and rabbids
<smasher>
it doesnt look like e need to add rabbids right now
<Anton{Politoed}>
yeah I agree with that
<Shoey>
it was a good game
<Shoey>
people should buy it
<Baby_Luigi>
I want to play it and i heard it's on sale in Best Buy
<Anton{Politoed}>
so out of Odyssey the ones I saw people care about adding were
<Anton{Politoed}>
Mollusque-Lanceur, Knucklotec, Torkdrift, and Mechawiggler
<Meta_Knight>
i have it shoey
<Meta_Knight>
i just havent played it
<Anton{Politoed}>
are there any others people really want to consider for this award
<Lakituthequick>
other than steak, nope
<Shoey>
go team steak
<turb>
out of the odyssey bosses no
<Anton{Politoed}>
is steak like a serious response for this
<Shoey>
yes
<Anton{Politoed}>
serious enough for me to put time into discussing it
<Shoey>
i'm for it
<Lakituthequick>
oh
<Lakituthequick>
58) O. Steak (PM:CS) — 1 — 0.05%
<Shoey>
if nobody else is that's fine
<Lakituthequick>
ahahah
<Meta_Knight>
no opinion on steak but if it wasnt in last year and didnt get much for a write in or anything im against it
<Meta_Knight>
odyssey should be prioritized
<turb>
yeah that's the thing
<Anton{Politoed}>
I'm not including it
<turb>
it's basically a shitpost vote
<Lakituthequick>
yeah smo first
<mcd>
i had no idea steak existed up until this point
<Lord_Bowser>
ugh my parents are forcing me to socialize
<Lord_Bowser>
afk for a bit
<Meta_Knight>
it probably becaues none of us actually played color splash
<Anton{Politoed}>
ok so there's 3 spots with 4 SMO bosses
<Anton{Politoed}>
quick lb say something you don't want
<Shoey>
nobody played color splash but and gamefreak
<Shoey>
me and
<Lakituthequick>
i still want to play cs
<Shoey>
you should it's amazing
<Baby_Luigi>
the battle system is what turned me off of it mostly
<smasher>
which one was torkdrift again
<Lakituthequick>
ufo
<Baby_Luigi>
the ufo thing
<Shoey>
My votes for the 3 that aren't the squid
<smasher>
oh
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Which SMO boss do you NOT want included in M27 Favorite Boss Battle? (Mollusque-Lanceur/Knucklotec/Torkdrift/Mechawiggler)
<Lakituthequick>
Torkdrift
<Anton{Politoed}>
all will be given the (SMO) tag, of course
<Anton{Politoed}>
Mollusque-Lanceur
<Shoey>
squid boss
<smasher>
mollusque-lanceur
<Gamefreak75>
knuckle
<turb>
Mollusque-Lanceur
<Meta_Knight>
mollusque
<__2257>
mollusque lanceur
<Gamefreak75>
:'(
<Baby_Luigi>
Mollusque Lancer
<smasher>
goodbye mollusque lanceur
<Anton{Politoed}>
lb would be a vote for keep squidman but i don't think it'd be enough
<smasher>
7-1-1-0-0
<Anton{Politoed}>
so rip him
<Anton{Politoed}>
I'm adding those other 3
<Anton{Politoed}>
any other considerations for M27?
<smasher>
im good
<Lakituthequick>
steak
<Lakituthequick>
(no)
<Meta_Knight>
im fine with how it is
<Baby_Luigi>
no
<mcd>
not really
<Anton{Politoed}>
gr888888888888888888
<Anton{Politoed}>
so
<Anton{Politoed}>
M28 Favorite Game Setting (Mushroom Kingdom (Super Mario Bros.), Mushroom Kingdom (Paper Mario), Super Mario RPG World, Dinosaur Land, Yoshi's Island, Isle Delfino, Beanbean Kingdom, Rogueport & surrounding areas, Flipside & Flopside, Bowser's Castle, Sarasaland, Donkey Kong Island, Sprixie Kingdom, Comet Observatory & Galaxies, Pi'illo Island, Prism Island)
<Lakituthequick>
14) Sprixie Kingdom — 65 — 2.95%
<Lakituthequick>
15) Prism Island — 48 — 2.18%
<Lakituthequick>
16) Sarasaland — 37 — 1.68%
<Lakituthequick>
17) O. Peach's Castle — 9 — 0.41%
<Lakituthequick>
18) O. Diamond City — 7 — 0.32%
<Lakituthequick>
19) O. Mushroom Kingdom (M&L:BIS)) — 6 — 0.27%
<Lakituthequick>
20 is new donk city somewhy
<Meta_Knight>
itd be like "city" but the thing is there really isnt any other level like that
<Lakituthequick>
my notes say "Add Cascade Kingdom" which is another SMO thing
<Shoey>
i'm good with how this award is
<Anton{Politoed}>
new donk city was included last year because there was more than enough previews of it to allow a decent opinion
<Anton{Politoed}>
there's 16 right now and I'd like to see some SMO representation
<smasher>
i would too
<Anton{Politoed}>
so Cascade Kingdom
<Gamefreak75>
can we encompass it all into one nomination?
<Stargazing>
i'd support cascade kingdom
<Lakituthequick>
SMO is probably too diverse to do a all-in thing
<Anton{Politoed}>
yeah that was my thought
<Baby_Luigi>
Cascade Kingdom is meh to me
<__2257>
but the way the award is written now, the nominees are all something that was exactly the setting of an entire game
<Anton{Politoed}>
and it also introduces things like "Bowser's Castle"
<smasher>
one nom would be good if it was possible but yeah i dont think it would work
<Gamefreak75>
galaxies are in there too
<mcd>
yeah galaxy only has one nom
<Anton{Politoed}>
and SMO's bowser's castle is wildly different
<__2257>
so for consistency, it should be the entire world
<Gamefreak75>
same with pm and pm2
<Meta_Knight>
the best way i can encompass everything is something like "The whole planet SMO"
<smasher>
ok 22 does have a point
<Meta_Knight>
or something
<Lakituthequick>
well on 22's point, most nominated games are indeed very coherent
<Lakituthequick>
SMO is wild
<turb>
yeah idk if this needs to be discussed more on the forums later if the entire world is a big point of contention
<turb>
yeah like
<Baby_Luigi>
Super Mario Odyssey Kingdoms
<turb>
smo isn't as cohesive
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
is paper mario really
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
all that coherent
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
or rogueport and its surrondings
<Baby_Luigi>
TTYD isn't
<Baby_Luigi>
the first one is more coherent
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
and flipside/flopside isn't the setting of an entire game
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
so if we're wanting to be consistent we'd need to reword that one
<Anton{Politoed}>
this award feels _ if it's tough just figuring out how to nominate something
<Baby_Luigi>
why is Mushroom Kingdom split from SMB from PM anyway
<Lakituthequick>
i haven't played any paper mario's yet so can't judge those
<Anton{Politoed}>
"M28 - Favorite Game Setting - The game with the best setting overall. Focus is placed on the entirety of the setting as a whole, rather than just individual areas."
<Anton{Politoed}>
is what our current definition is
<Shoey>
I think the paper mario world is now considered a different world baby_luigi
<Anton{Politoed}>
so it is the whole game
<Anton{Politoed}>
and SMO just doesn't fit this
<Shoey>
like how we've go super mario rpg world on here
<Baby_Luigi>
Since Paper Jam...?
<__2257>
i dont think its about paper jam
<__2257>
the thing is
<__2257>
the focus is supposed to be on the setting as depicted in a specific game
<Anton{Politoed}>
honestly I'm perfectly fine with dismantling this award and reworking it
<__2257>
so smb and paper mario are jsut separate because theyre separate games
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i'm ok with it
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
as in
<Baby_Luigi>
But Mushroom Kingdom is like different in every Mario game anyway
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
replacing/overhauling this award
<Gamefreak75>
im fine with that
<Lakituthequick>
smo is all different settings really so ..
<smasher>
ok id be ok with overhauling this
<Baby_Luigi>
Super Mario 64 is different than Super Mario Bros.
<__2257>
not because theyre supposedly separate locations within the fictional chronology of the series
<Meta_Knight>
i agree with anton/perch
<__2257>
well yeah but we couldnt include all of them
<__2257>
that would be too many nominees
<Stargazing>
yeah agree
<Baby_Luigi>
imo it's a bit messy to me
<Anton{Politoed}>
I'll make a thread for this after the meeting
<Lakituthequick>
:ok:
<Anton{Politoed}>
but just some examples of how we could approach this is:
<Baby_Luigi>
People might like Mushroom Kingdom in SMB3 but not in SMB idk
<Baby_Luigi>
it's bizarre
<Anton{Politoed}>
redefine the entire award
<Anton{Politoed}>
allow individual locations under certain circumstances
<mcd>
presumably its just treated as different parts of the same kingdom
<__2257>
im pretty sure its like this to try and keep it from being a retread of favorite level
<Anton{Politoed}>
replace the award entirely
<Anton{Politoed}>
yeah
<Lakituthequick>
good point
<Baby_Luigi>
Let's save this for thread then
<Anton{Politoed}>
if we included entire kingdoms in favorite level then it's redundant in here as well
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i think
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i'd be down for just scrapping the award
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
and coming up with an alternative
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
this has alwas been one of those weird awards
<Anton{Politoed}>
we could also ju9st not include SMO but that feels bad
<Baby_Luigi>
I do think the award has a good concept though
<mcd>
itd get write-ins as well
<Lakituthequick>
it already got last year
<Baby_Luigi>
It serves as a cumulation of levels, not just one particular level
<turb>
i like the concept of the award
<mcd>
it made sense up until odyssey
<turb>
but if we have any other ideas floating around they can be pitched
<turb>
yeah thats the thing
<mcd>
most mario games stuck to the same general location
<turb>
it was shaky if workable
<smasher>
i like the concept of the award too
<turb>
odyssey is too spread out
<mcd>
except galaxy which is easier to account for because it had a hub world
<turb>
workable if shaky
<Anton{Politoed}>
yeah like I wouldn't vote for "all of SMO' in this award because fuck Luncheon Kingdom
<turb>
whatever
<__2257>
i honestly dont think odyssey has changed things
<Anton{Politoed}>
but I want to rig the award for SMO's Bowser's Kingdom
<__2257>
smb3 had basically
<__2257>
the same setting
<Baby_Luigi>
I agree with 2257
<mcd>
but smb3 is kinda easier to ignore
<Baby_Luigi>
Also, galaxies technically aren't related to each other either
<Anton{Politoed}>
yeah that's one of the ways to approach it, by just changing the definition to allow it and be more clear
<mcd>
whereas odyssey is like the biggest mario game right now
<Lakituthequick>
yeah but they share the whole 'galaxy' thing
<Baby_Luigi>
But doesn't Odyssey share Kingdoms as well..?
<Baby_Luigi>
with their own unique currency and moons?
<__2257>
i think kingdoms are as coherent of a theme as galaxies are
<Baby_Luigi>
^
<Lakituthequick>
yeah
<__2257>
they all kind of follow the same format with yeah, th ecurrency and moons
<__2257>
as well as the inhabitants, the way the levels are named, the tourist book thing, etc
<Baby_Luigi>
The only exceptions are the arena kingdoms but we can easily exclude those
<Lakituthequick>
i feel like there is some distinqtion but you raise good points
<__2257>
the award is about the way the setting is presented in the game, and i think theres a clear theme here
<__2257>
its not incoherent
<Anton{Politoed}>
ok well I'll make this a forum thread
<Baby_Luigi>
I think we should save this for thread
<Baby_Luigi>
Yeah
<turb>
yeah
<Anton{Politoed}>
I'm siding with 22 but I'm _____________ on the whole thing
<Anton{Politoed}>
I feel we'll just need to regroup the nominees at the very least
<Anton{Politoed}>
so next up are M29 and M30
<Anton{Politoed}>
I've already went and updated them with the switch in generations and the moving of nominees from 30 --> 29
<Anton{Politoed}>
so
<Anton{Politoed}>
M29 Favorite Classic Game (GCN/GBA and older) (Super Mario World, Super Mario 64, Paper Mario, Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars, Donkey Kong 64, Super Mario Bros., Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, Mario Kart 64, Yoshi's Story, Mario Party 2, Super Mario Bros. 2 (USA), Wario Land 3, Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest,
<Anton{Politoed}>
Mario Party 3, Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Super Mario Sunshine, Wario Land 4)
<Lakituthequick>
12) Mario Party 2 — 47 — 2.08%
<Lakituthequick>
13) Yoshi's Story — 38 — 1.68%
<Lakituthequick>
14) Super Mario Bros. 2 (USA) — 34 — 1.50%
<Lakituthequick>
15) Wario Land 3 — 30 — 1.33%
<Lakituthequick>
16) O. Donkey Kong Country — 5 — 0.22%
<Lakituthequick>
17) O. Super Mario Land — 4 — 0.18%
<Lakituthequick>
17) O. Super Mario Land 2 — 4 — 0.18%
<Lakituthequick>
19) O. Mario Party 1 — 3 — 0.13%
<Baby_Luigi>
No change
<Anton{Politoed}>
I think we're at 18 if I remembered how to count
<__2257>
did this get overfilled by moving things from m30
<__2257>
oh
<__2257>
ok
<Anton{Politoed}>
someone else may want to count just to get a 2nd opinion
<smasher>
if were at 18 i think we are fine
<smasher>
but i will count
<smasher>
since im the ounter
<smasher>
counter
<Lakituthequick>
you moved three games
<Lakituthequick>
15 + 3 = 18
<Anton{Politoed}>
:clap:
<Gamefreak75>
its 18 yeah
<Anton{Politoed}>
I'm content with this with no further changes
<smasher>
yep its 18
<smasher>
no further changes
<Baby_Luigi>
18
<Baby_Luigi>
I miscounted 19 twice, but got 18 a third time
<smasher>
i miscounted 19 too
<Meta_Knight>
im okay with this
<mcd>
i also miscounted 19 twice lol
<smasher>
but that was accidentally counting smrpg as 2 options
<Lakituthequick>
sounds risque
<smasher>
damn subtitles
<Meta_Knight>
i counted 18
<mcd>
yeah nothing really to add/remove
<Anton{Politoed}>
woo
<Baby_Luigi>
!skip
<mcd>
surprised and appalled smb2 isn't higher
<Anton{Politoed}>
M30 Favorite Modern Game (Wii/DS and newer) (Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Mario Kart Wii, Super Mario 3D Land, Super Paper Mario, Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon, Super Mario 3D World, Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, Mario Kart 8/Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Super Mario Maker, Yoshi's Woolly World/Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World, Paper Mario: Color Splash
<Baby_Luigi>
^
<mcd>
i vote we replace all the nominees with smb2
<Lakituthequick>
13) Yoshi's Woolly World/Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World — 42 — 1.85%
<Lakituthequick>
14) Super Mario 3D Land — 37 — 1.63%
<Lakituthequick>
15) Wario Land 4 — 23 — 1.01%
<Lakituthequick>
16) O. Mario & Luigi: Dream Team — 10 — 0.44%
<Lakituthequick>
17) O. Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga — 8 — 0.35%
<Lakituthequick>
18) O. Mario Kart DS — 6 — 0.26%
<Baby_Luigi>
y
<Baby_Luigi>
I vote y on that
<Lakituthequick>
wario land moved
<mcd>
wario land 4's in the other award now anyway
<Anton{Politoed}>
12 nominees on this one so I'd like to get more
<Anton{Politoed}>
15 is the goal
<Gamefreak75>
dont add odyssey
<Lakituthequick>
lets add smo
<Baby_Luigi>
duh
<Anton{Politoed}>
Super Mario Odyssey is an instant add so I'm just doing that now
<smasher>
add odyssey obviously
<Baby_Luigi>
Super Mario Run?
<smasher>
i would prefer two more as well
<Shoey>
add mario and rabbids i guess
<turb>
rabbids might- yeah
<Meta_Knight>
rabbids is fair
<mcd>
rabbids has good reviews
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i'm ok with rabbids
<smasher>
yeah id be ok with rabbids
<smasher>
maybe dream team as the 15th?
<smasher>
its the highest write in
<mcd>
captain toad could be a good addition?
<Stargazing>
it's very close to the previous write in though, and isn't that close to wario land 4
<Baby_Luigi>
I did suggest Super Mario Run but that's a small mobile title so eh
<Baby_Luigi>
I wouldn't mind Captain Toad
<Baby_Luigi>
great game
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
ooh
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i like captain toad
<Shoey>
yeah captain toad is great
<mcd>
its getting a port too
<Baby_Luigi>
Captain Toad 4 Smash
<Gamefreak75>
add dkc:tf
<Lakituthequick>
captain toad wasn't previously written in
<Shoey>
why the hell isn't tropical freeze in ths
<smasher>
i think we removed a dkc option at one point
<smasher>
because the voters are terrible and it scored low
<Baby_Luigi>
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions idk
<smasher>
but the port might make it more viable
<turb>
it feels weird to put a port of an old game on but
<smasher>
i wouldnt be opposed to either it or captain toad
<turb>
i dunno
<smasher>
i agree yeah
<Meta_Knight>
it feels weird to me too
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
not sure about superstar saga
<Gamefreak75>
im voting no on ss remake
<turb>
the removal of dk was only for the level/whatever awards iirc
<Meta_Knight>
im also against ss
<turb>
so dkctf could probably be on here
<Meta_Knight>
it doesnt feel as like
<Meta_Knight>
noticable
<turb>
I'm tlaking about ss for the port thing
<Anton{Politoed}>
Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, Super Mario Run, Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle, Mario & Luigi: Dream Team, Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions
<Anton{Politoed}>
so that's 6
<Anton{Politoed}>
with 2 easy slots but up to 5
<Anton{Politoed}>
SS isn't getting wide support I'm seeing and that'd knock it down to 5
<Lakituthequick>
not really for ss and smr
<smasher>
i mean i cant say im against adding everything there but ss
<Anton{Politoed}>
how do people feel about Dream Team and Super Mario Run
<smasher>
smr is __ but valid
<Baby_Luigi>
Dream Team is eh
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
dream team is valid but i'm not a fan of it
<Baby_Luigi>
It does have to compete with BiS anyway
<Lakituthequick>
I feel SMR isn't sizable enough for this kinda poll
<Gamefreak75>
i dont care for smr but its w/e daisy fanboys will vote for it
<Meta_Knight>
i feel like we would have added dream team by now if it was like noteworthy enough
<turb>
both valid but neither seem like good choices
<Lakituthequick>
the others are fully fledged games at the least
<smasher>
we could cut those two then and have 16
<Lakituthequick>
^
<smasher>
unless there are two better suggestions
<Anton{Politoed}>
ok i'll do this one at a time
<Anton{Politoed}>
let me just set it up
<smasher>
i think everyones fine with tf/rabbids/ct
<smasher>
ok
<Stargazing>
i still have super mario run and i agree with cutting it off
<Stargazing>
it's not viable at all and is an automatic last
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Add "Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker" to M30? (y/n/a)
<Gamefreak75>
y
<smasher>
y
<Shoey>
y
<Lakituthequick>
y
<__2257>
a
<Baby_Luigi>
y
<smasher>
5-0-1
<Anton{Politoed}>
y
<smasher>
6-0-1
<Stargazing>
y
<smasher>
7-0-1
<Anton{Politoed}>
gr8 so i'll add it
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Add "Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze" to M30? (y/n/a)
<Baby_Luigi>
y
<smasher>
y
<Gamefreak75>
Y
<Lakituthequick>
y
<mcd>
y
<Shoey>
y
<smasher>
6-0-0
<Meta_Knight>
y
<smasher>
7-0-0
<__2257>
a
<Anton{Politoed}>
gr88
<smasher>
7-0-1
<smasher>
you RUINEDIT
<Anton{Politoed}>
that brings us to 15
<mcd>
gr7-0-1
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Add "Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle" to M30? (y/n/a)
<Baby_Luigi>
y
<smasher>
y
<__2257>
not comfortable voting for a game i didnt play
<Lakituthequick>
y
<Stargazing>
a
<turb>
a
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
a
<__2257>
a
<smasher>
3-0-3
<Gamefreak75>
a
<smasher>
3-05
<smasher>
3-0-5
<Anton{Politoed}>
y
<smasher>
the abstains have it
<smasher>
4-0-5
<turb>
I'll switch to y
<Shoey>
y
<mcd>
y
<smasher>
7-0-4
<smasher>
there we are
<Shoey>
sorry I went to get cereal
<Lakituthequick>
i mean i haven't played rabbids either but it appears to be well-recieved
<mcd>
yeah it can't hurt to have it on the poll
<Meta_Knight>
y
<Baby_Luigi>
what's not to like about an xcom mario game
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Add "Super Mario Run" to M30?
<Baby_Luigi>
n
<Shoey>
n
<Stargazing>
n
<smasher>
n
<Lakituthequick>
n
<Gamefreak75>
rabbids
<__2257>
a
<smasher>
0-5-1
<mcd>
a
<turb>
n
<Gamefreak75>
n
<Meta_Knight>
n
<smasher>
0-8-2
<smasher>
super mario run away
<Anton{Politoed}>
rip
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
nb
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
*n
<smasher>
0-9-2
<Lakituthequick>
vote: y/n/a
<Lakituthequick>
gf: rabbids
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Add "Mario & Luigi: Dream Team" to M30? (y/n/a)
<mcd>
id like to switch to rabbids
<Baby_Luigi>
n
<turb>
n
<Shoey>
a
<smasher>
0-9-2-1
<mcd>
n
<smasher>
a
<Stargazing>
n
<smasher>
0-4-2
<Lakituthequick>
a
<Meta_Knight>
n
<Gamefreak75>
a
<Anton{Politoed}>
n
<smasher>
0-6-4
<smasher>
the dream is dead
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
n
<mcd>
the team is dead
<__2257>
a
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Add "Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions" to M30? (y/n/a)
<smasher>
0-7-5
<Gamefreak75>
n
<Baby_Luigi>
a
<smasher>
n
<mcd>
n
<Lakituthequick>
n
<smasher>
im just too _____ on adding a remake
<Stargazing>
a
<smasher>
0-4-2
<Anton{Politoed}>
n
<smasher>
0-5-2
<Baby_Luigi>
Even if the remake is actually good and not a cash-in?
<smasher>
yes
<turb>
n
<smasher>
its still a remake
<Meta_Knight>
n
<__2257>
n
<Lakituthequick>
fun fact: companies don't remake games if they won't make money
<smasher>
im just not fully surre it counts
<Meta_Knight>
the thing is though
<Baby_Luigi>
Companies don't make games if they won't make money
<smasher>
and the original never did well on this to begin with
<Meta_Knight>
superstar saga remake feels liike a cashin
<Anton{Politoed}>
any other considerations for M30?
<Meta_Knight>
bis remake even more so
<smasher>
0-8-2 btw
<smasher>
id say make this 18 if i had two more suggestions
<__2257>
regardless of whether its a cash in, i wouldnt put it on this award
<mcd>
don't think so
<smasher>
so unless anyone else does id move on
<mcd>
looks like we're done with mario
<Anton{Politoed}>
if that's it we can move on to Fail Awards
<__2257>
i think a remake of a classic game is a classic game, even if its newer
<smasher>
^
<Baby_Luigi>
i think it depends on what has changed
<Baby_Luigi>
which something like SSS + BM clearly isn't
<Anton{Politoed}>
F1 Worst Character (Mario, Princess Daisy, Waluigi, Wario, Petey Piranha, Birdo, Mimi, Starlow, Lubba, Princess Peach, Bowser Jr., Toad, Fawful, Pink Gold Peach, Baby Rosalina, Kersti, Rosalina)
<Lakituthequick>
15) Bowser Jr. — 34 — 1.47%
<Lakituthequick>
16) Petey Piranha — 27 — 1.17%
<Lakituthequick>
17) Princess Peach — 20 — 0.87%
<Lakituthequick>
18) O. Luigi — 5 — 0.22%
<Lakituthequick>
19) O. Bowser — 4 — 0.17%
<Lakituthequick>
19) O. Dimentio — 4 — 0.17%
<Baby_Luigi>
I wouldn't change anything
<Lakituthequick>
nope
<smasher>
i wouldnt either
<Anton{Politoed}>
I'm up for removing Peach
<smasher>
i cant think of anything newer
<Anton{Politoed}>
but let me check to see if she's been low on this consistently
<Lakituthequick>
possible
<Gamefreak75>
all of the rabbids
<Baby_Luigi>
Broodals
<__2257>
i want to lol
<smasher>
well id be ok with removing peach
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
if peach has been consistently super low i'd like to cut her
<Lakituthequick>
peach is officially not terrible apparently
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
maybe also petey?
<Baby_Luigi>
yeah I'd cut Petey over peach
<Anton{Politoed}>
2016
<Anton{Politoed}>
16) Mario — 41 — 1.53% 17) Princess Peach — 29 — 1.08% 18) O. Bowser — 13 — 0.49%
<turb>
I'd definitely rather cut peach
<smasher>
definitely cut peach over petey
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
if 2015 is also low
<Lakituthequick>
yaeh
<mcd>
yeah id cut peach
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
then i fully support cutting peach
<Anton{Politoed}>
10) Starlow — 69 — 2.57% 11) Petey Piranha — 61 — 2.28% 11) Wario — 61 — 2.28%
<Anton{Politoed}>
this is Petey's first time really being that low so it's not as strong of a contender but _
<Anton{Politoed}>
so
<Baby_Luigi>
I'll leave it
<smasher>
id leave petey
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Remove "Princess Peach" from F1 Worst Character? (y/n/a)
<Anton{Politoed}>
y
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
y
<Lakituthequick>
y
<Baby_Luigi>
a
<smasher>
y
<mcd>
y
<__2257>
y
<Shoey>
a
<Gamefreak75>
y
<Anton{Politoed}>
i'm so happy
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
also yeah
<smasher>
7-0-2
<turb>
y
<smasher>
8-0-2
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i'm gonna withdraw my idea to cut petey
<smasher>
the princess is safe
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
peach is consistently low, petey might have been a fluke
<smasher>
yeah
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
so leave him on at least this year
<Meta_Knight>
y
<smasher>
9-02
<smasher>
9-0-2
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
9-2
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
who voted no
<Stargazing>
y
<Anton{Politoed}>
any characters to add?
<Baby_Luigi>
eh, I don't like Peach but I have the unupopular opinion here
<Anton{Politoed}>
I literally hated all of the broodals so it'd be hard to pick one or two
<Baby_Luigi>
Broodals
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
can i just nominate Characters Anton Doesn't Like
<Meta_Knight>
lets just add them all as a collective group
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
as one big nominee
<Meta_Knight>
throw in rabbids too
<Baby_Luigi>
They're one of the worst parts of Odyssey
<mcd>
i've got to head to bed, goodnight
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
night
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<smasher>
zero 2 from kirby voted no
<Lakituthequick>
if any it would be harriet because i don't like her alugh at all
<Baby_Luigi>
idk people like Harriet
<Lakituthequick>
did they
<Baby_Luigi>
I have no idea why she's an annoying turd
<Anton{Politoed}>
if I had to choose one to like it'd be hariet
<smasher>
a broodal/rabbid wouldnt be a bad addition
<Anton{Politoed}>
I think spewart looks the dumbest
<Gamefreak75>
rango > the others dont @ me
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
because people wanna fuck her
<Gamefreak75>
^
<Baby_Luigi>
why
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
furries
<Baby_Luigi>
she's a fucking rabbit
<Gamefreak75>
furries
<smasher>
furries
<Lord_Bowser>
im feeling very awkward and anxious but im hwre
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
hi lb
<Meta_Knight>
it be like adding one koopaling though
<Lord_Bowser>
spewart is easily the worst
<turb>
i just think she has a good design compared to the rest of them
<Meta_Knight>
as opposed to all of them
<Gamefreak75>
id be fine with grouping them all tbh
<Meta_Knight>
but 5 nominees for something all the sam eis also terrible
<smasher>
idk if i would add a group of characters for worst character
<Lakituthequick>
it's a dishonour to be on this poll so i feel fine adding just one
<Baby_Luigi>
I like Madame Broode the most because she's the most over-the-top
<smasher>
even if they probably deserve it
<smasher>
i dont oppose adding just one
<Baby_Luigi>
Spewart has a dumb design
<Lakituthequick>
broode is pretty funny yeah
<smasher>
which one was spewart i cant fucking remember the males names
<Baby_Luigi>
It's Morton Bunny
<Lord_Bowser>
the one who spits poison
<smasher>
ok that was my guess
<smasher>
hes bad
<Baby_Luigi>
Rango looks quirky and Topper is bland as far as i'm concerned
<Anton{Politoed}>
ok idk how to approach this so
<Anton{Politoed}>
are there any other characters beyond broodals people want to add
<Lakituthequick>
fwiw there was a suggestion to add Jojora to this in the general discussion thread
<Meta_Knight>
rabbids
<Baby_Luigi>
Yeah I remember that
<Lakituthequick>
no opinions otherwise
<Baby_Luigi>
but idk how terrible she is
<Baby_Luigi>
She has only one small appearance as a minor boss fight
<Anton{Politoed}>
she got no votes ever so I'm not considering it
<Anton{Politoed}>
are any rabbids distinguishable enough or just
<Baby_Luigi>
Rabbids..do they even count?
<Anton{Politoed}>
"Rabbids"
<smasher>
im not familiar with jojora enough but if thats the case probably not
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
jojora is really minor
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
one boss fight in one game
<Lakituthequick>
exactly my thoughts
<Baby_Luigi>
exactly too
<turb>
jojora exists for the whole level i think but she's really minor
<smasher>
rabbids might count since when theyre not in costumes theyre all the same
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
she does
<turb>
i think rabbids are just rabbids
<Baby_Luigi>
As for Rabbids, idk it feels weird because they're not Mario characters
<turb>
no distinct characters
<Baby_Luigi>
Rabbid Mario, Rabbid Luigi, Rabbid Peach, and Rabbid Yoshi
<Lakituthequick>
per blof
<Anton{Politoed}>
there is a Worst Enemy award but they're not really enemies
<Anton{Politoed}>
but we'll get to that when we get there
<Baby_Luigi>
All of those Rabbid protagonists in the Mario + Rabbids are interchangeable to me
<smasher>
i think im indifferent to adding a rabbid
<Baby_Luigi>
Rabbid Peach is...ugh
<Anton{Politoed}>
ok so we can do both broodals and rabbids similarly, by choosing which of the 4 you would want to add, if any at all
<Shoey>
i'm against adding rabbids
<Lakituthequick>
the 'character' rabbids are just rabbids cosplaying if anything
<Meta_Knight>
as much as i hate the rabbids i agree with whats been said
<Baby_Luigi>
Well they do have their own personalities too
<Meta_Knight>
like we've never added final fantasy characters even when they made a cameo
<smasher>
fair
<Baby_Luigi>
They're not Mario character so
<Baby_Luigi>
I'm not for adding them
<Gamefreak75>
no ones suggested them tbh
<Meta_Knight>
if theyre popular as a write in then we can consider them
<Lakituthequick>
^
<smasher>
^
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: If we're to add any broodal to F1, please select which one (Hariet/Rango/Spewert/Topper/a)
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
^
<turb>
spewart
<Gamefreak75>
sp
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
a
<Baby_Luigi>
Spewart
<Anton{Politoed}>
Spewart
<smasher>
spewart
<Lakituthequick>
Hariet
<Meta_Knight>
spewart
<__2257>
s
<Baby_Luigi>
(as much as I want to add Harriet)
<smasher>
1-0-7-0-1
<Anton{Politoed}>
gr8
<smasher>
spewart it is
<Lord_Bowser>
spewart
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Add "Spewart" to F1? (y/n/a)
<smasher>
1-0-8-0-1
<smasher>
y
<Baby_Luigi>
y
<Lakituthequick>
y
<Anton{Politoed}>
e*
<Shoey>
a
<Anton{Politoed}>
y
<smasher>
4-0-1
<turb>
y
<smasher>
5-0-1
<Lakituthequick>
Spewart, with an a
<Gamefreak75>
y
<smasher>
spewaart
<Anton{Politoed}>
is it ??? I copy/pasted it
<__2257>
a
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
a
<Anton{Politoed}>
let me check again
<turb>
yeah it's spewart
<Lakituthequick>
Spewart is correct
<turb>
in the dialogue
<smasher>
6-0-3
<Lakituthequick>
https://www.mariowiki.com/Spewart
<Lord_Bowser>
im a bit confused as to why you highlighted it if it was correct
<Gamefreak75>
lol
<Stargazing>
a
<smasher>
6-0-4
<Anton{Politoed}>
whoops i had to afk suddenly
<Anton{Politoed}>
but spewart is added
<Anton{Politoed}>
one more vote and i'll close the meeting
<smasher>
anything else?
<smasher>
oh lol
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Add any Rabbid to F1? (y/n/a)
<smasher>
n
<Gamefreak75>
y
<Lakituthequick>
n
<Anton{Politoed}>
if Y we'll pick something
<Anton{Politoed}>
but I say n
<Shoey>
n
<turb>
n
<smasher>
1-5-0
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
n
<smasher>
1-6-0
<Anton{Politoed}>
gr8
<smasher>
the rabbids go free
<Baby_Luigi>
n
<Meta_Knight>
n
<smasher>
1-8-0
<Anton{Politoed}>
so I'll go lob stuff on the forum
<Anton{Politoed}>
and next meeting we'll finalize that all and continue with Fail Awards
<Anton{Politoed}>
we did it
Anton{Politoed} bangs the gavel against 22's head