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 <turb> 
hi
 
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 <turb> 
it's time
 <turb> 
so basically uhh
 <turb> 
polls
 <turb> 
https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=39747.0
 <turb> 
https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=39748.0
 <turb> 
https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=39749.0
 <turb> 
https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=39682.20
 <smasher> 
h
 <turb> 
if you haven't already voted or acknowledged them then go vote
 <Toadbert> 
question
 <turb> 
what's the question
 <Lord_Bowser> 
im here
 <turb> 
my question is why google docs won't load
 <Gamefreak75> 
nintendo is never going to let us finish fave costume
 <turb> 
anyway once we get enough votes, 9 or so, or people acknowledging they can't vote
 <turb> 
we can finalize nominees
 <Gamefreak75> 
since they released two more like 3 days ago
 <Gamefreak75> 
idk how popular the 2 new costumes are though
 <Toadbert> 
what if i cant vote
 <Lakituthequick> 
I have voted
 <turb> 
oh yeah they did do that with the dlc didn't they
 <Shoey> 
i've voted
 <Lakituthequick> 
Mainly for the ones that were extracted from M twenty-something
 <turb> 
I think it's late enough that we should just accept them as writeins
 <Lakituthequick> 
it was a baseball and satelliteview costume right
 <turb> 
yeah
 <smasher> 
i haven't voted because i don't remember leve3
 <turb> 
yoshi level seems to have enough votes to finalize
 <Gamefreak75> 
works for me
 <turb> 
idk where 22 is
 <smasher> 
levels
 <__2257> 
here
 <turb> 
hi
 <__2257> 
do you want to close yoshi
 <turb> 
i'll give it a few more minutes since there's only 7 voters for dk/wario
 <smasher> 
I don't know if i have time to look them up
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i cant vote on wario
 <Gamefreak75> 
just vote for my nominationss
 <Lord_Bowser> 
but i voted for yoshi/dk
 <turb> 
so if there's anyone who wants to do that who hasn't voted and can vote then now's the time
 <smasher> 
i voted for costume a while ago at least
 <Gamefreak75> 
you can trust me
 <mcd> 
i can't vote on wario and don't really know dk well enough to
 <Shoey> 
God guys
 <mcd> 
did vote on yoshi though
 <Shoey> 
I can't believe you all voted against those sweet dkc 3 levels
 <Toadbert> 
i couldve prevented this
 <turb> 
ok well
 <Lord_Bowser> 
tb take over the ac
 <turb> 
at :10 or so I'll probably close votes and get polls
 <Gamefreak75> 
barely anyone voted for tf levels
 <turb> 
or just leave them open and finalize post meeting but _
 <smasher> 
id vote at least one dkc3 level if i remembered one shoey
 <Anton{Awaytoed}> 
I'm back
 <turb> 
hi
  
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 <__2257> 
that was a quick 30 minutes
 <turb> 
you can take over now if you want
 <Gamefreak75> 
shame how poor taste thecommunit has
 <Gamefreak75> 
community
 <turb> 
i've just been here waiting for everyone to get back so they can actually vote if they haven't lol
 <smasher> 
tf is a great game
 <__2257> 
literally nobody played tropical freeze
 <turb> 
but i assume everyone who's gone afk has already voted
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but hey guys even with the "idk enough to be able to vote" we still are missing a solid 6-7 people from saying or doing anything
 <__2257> 
nintendo didnt have a console to play it on
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and that's more than I care for for something that we've been focusing on for 2-3 weeks now
 <turb> 
yeah
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so as a general reminder and not me actively doing anything about it right now
 <Gamefreak75> 
which exemplifies how poors taste people have
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if you don't want to participate, you can leave
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
:)
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
hi
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'm here now
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
voted on both polls i could and have already said which ones i can't so i'm done either way
 <Gamefreak75> 
vote tf levels so the poll isnt dkc1/2 bias
 <turb> 
honestly i just voted 1/2/3 because i never played TF lol
 <Gamefreak75> 
smh
 <turb> 
or barely enough to experience most of it
 <turb> 
blame the wii u
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
ast least New Funky Mode will rescue it soon
 <Gamefreak75> 
its ok tf swithc comes out soonss
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
also with how low these vote totals are, there's bound to be a boatload of ties
 <__2257> 
the wii who
 <turb> 
also yeah it's hard to keep track of who can't vote in polls and who's just ignoring it
 <turb> 
so
 <turb> 
_
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
which will spur us into having to do what we did for Favorite Costume
 <Gamefreak75> 
people can correct their sins
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
which'll be another week of polls for M5-7
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
prime 4 when
 <smasher> 
when the port comes out you will have no excuse
 <Lakituthequick> 
There's a 6-way tie for 14th in the Yoshi level poll right now
 <smasher> 
ill try to vote when im done working in a few minutes
 <smasher> 
need to look this shit up
 <smasher> 
time
 <Gamefreak75> 
i hope ys gets at least one level in
 <Gamefreak75> 
so it wont be yoshis island: the poll
 <turb> 
don't worry i tried to vote for YS
 <turb> 
good game
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
is there anyone actively voting right now
 <Lakituthequick> 
Jungle Hut (YS) is 6th so it'll ve good
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
not me
 <Lakituthequick> 
*be
 <turb> 
already voted for everything
 <Gamefreak75> 
i voted on all the polls btw
 <Lakituthequick> 
also yeah I've voted a few days ago
 <Gamefreak75> 
so im good
 <Lord_Bowser> 
ive voted/acknowledged all polls
 <Gamefreak75> 
ill create an alt account and vote if needed
 <Gamefreak75> 
dont tell the mods
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
thx
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
too late
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'm telling
 <smasher> 
banning now
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
how about this one
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=39682.20
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
vote in this one as well
 <Gamefreak75> 
i did
 <Lakituthequick> 
did too
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm locking M5-7 right now and will just resolve it as we did with Favorite Costume, and those polls will be put up later
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
done
 <Gamefreak75> 
cant believe tostarena is losing
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
not going to discuss which nominees made it into M5-7 right now
 <Gamefreak75> 
at least chef is there
 <turb> 
that means it'll stay on the award at least
 <turb> 
the vote was to remove 2
 <Shoey> 
yeah gamefreak
 <smasher> 
voted
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
my fetish is the vote count skyrocketing on all 4 of these polls only after they're forced into the meeting despite there being ample time for a week or two before
 
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 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
sounds complicate
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
*complicated
 <Shoey> 
play tropical freeze you fucks
 <Lakituthequick> 
o lol 🅱OWSER'S 👏 🅱IG 👏 🅱LAST 🌋🌋🌋 is still in the docs
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
is anyone still actively voting in the Costume poll
 <Lakituthequick> 
Shoey I'm going to buy the Switch version
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
no
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
this poll is to choose 2 that you DON'T want in the award
 <Shoey> 
not good enough ltq
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
look shoey there's only one game on wii u that hasn't been rereleased or will be for another system
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
it's not enough
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
/not enough/
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Favorite Costume poll is locked and I will resolve the outcome of it after the meeting
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so next up is deciding nominees for Favorite Song !
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=39719.msg1997849#msg1997849
 <Lakituthequick> 
Chef and Swimwear lost
 <Lakituthequick> 
or won
 <Lakituthequick> 
got the most votes
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
dammit ltq
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
your avatar confused me
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
also if we need more cartoon ones
 <Lakituthequick> 
oh
 <Lakituthequick> 
I forgot my avatar did that
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i have far more knowledge of the cartoon songs than anyone ever should have
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
the list Ltq made up is:
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Ashley's Song Break Free (Lead the Way) DK Rap Do the Mario Jump Up, Super Star! Karaoke (Medamayaki) The Mario Drawing Song Mona Pizza Phantom of the Bwahpera
 <Gamefreak75> 
eddy the mean old yeti or riot
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
with blocky adding on
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Eddie, Let Me Go Back To My Home, Pirate's Scorn, and I'm Leo Luster
 <Shoey> 
can't believe we aren't including the best mario song
 <Meta_Knight> 
is there anything in ddr mario mix with lyrics
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
is that a complete selection from everyone's ideas?
 <Shoey> 
the super mario world show theme
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
that's all i plan to suggest
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'd add metal head if diddy's voice didn't SUCK in it
 <Shoey> 
I suggest the super mario world show theme
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
fuckin' diddy
 <Lord_Bowser> 
im fine with the current nominees
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
also i'm down for shoey's
 <turb> 
I don't have any suggestions
 <smasher> 
i can't think of anything not already on the list
 <Lakituthequick> 
If anything only the thing Shoey suggest and the DKC intro theme but otherwise no additions from me
 <Shoey> 
yeah the smw show them is good shit
 <Gamefreak75> 
wait fuck was the costume poll to remove 2?
 <Shoey> 
also yeah the dkc theme is good shit
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yes
 <Meta_Knight> 
im fine with that
 
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yep that's what the thing said
 <Shoey> 
i'd support both themes
 <Gamefreak75> 
i voted for the ones i wanted to keep
 <Stargazing> 
sorry im late!
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
Oops
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
hi star
 <Shoey> 
you did it wrong than
 <Gamefreak75> 
im dumb
 <Stargazing> 
i thought i logged in but i fucked up
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
we're discussing favorite song rn
 <Stargazing> 
sorry yall
 <Stargazing> 
oh good!
 <smasher> 
gamefreak you dunce
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
do any of these songs need like
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
name changes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
or something, like
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
to include where it's from
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
hmmm
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i think that would be good
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
help people look it up so they can listen
 <turb> 
I think they'd benefit from descriptive subtitles beyond the obvious ones like the smw show theme or whatever
 <mcd> 
are we still able to add songs
 <mcd> 
if so what about the jimmy one from warioware diy
 <turb> 
unless that has a name and isn't immediately identifiable as Super Mario World Show Theme
 
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 <turb> 
like medamayaki would benefit
 <Shoey> 
does jimmy t's have lyrics
 <Lakituthequick> 
Also the comma in "Eddie, Let Me Go Back To My Home" can potentially be confusing because of how this stuff is listed
 <Lakituthequick> 
beware
 <Gamefreak75> 
yes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
sure but it would be easier to post in the thread so I can group them so I don't have to look at that and then also what people are saying in here
 <Gamefreak75> 
i dont know if the jimmy t song has a name though
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so what we'll do since people are just now/still adding nominee ideas
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
is we're going to keep this on the forum and not do anything with Favorite Song right now
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but in that thread we will bring it to completion with finalizing the nominee list and how we're naming them
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
that sounds ogod to me
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so next meeting we can be :thumbsup: at it
 <turb> 
gr8
 <smasher> 
fine with me
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
this means there needs to be complete participation with this so it's finished
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and not scrambling to do it during the meeting it was meant to be finished on, like right now and with M5-7
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
unironically pretty pissed that this is happening
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so anyways moving on
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
with those things being unable to resolve right now, the next thing is continuing on with Mario awards
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and we left off at M26
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
which should be easier since we don't gotta move a bunch of stuff around with it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
M26 Favorite 3D Mario Level (Toy Time Galaxy (SMG), Good Egg Galaxy (SMG), Gusty Garden Galaxy (SMG), Whomp's Fortress/Throwback Galaxy (SM64/SMG2), Grandmaster Galaxy (SMG2), Cosmic Cove Galaxy (SMG2), Bob-omb Battlefield (SM64), Tick Tock Clock (SM64), Pinna Park (SMS), Sirena Beach (SMS), Delfino Plaza/Airstrip (SMS), Mount Must Dash (SM3DW),
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
The Great Tower of Bowser Land (SM3DW), Champion's Road (SM3DW), World 2-3 (SM3DL), Special 7-3 (SM3DL), Slimy Spring Galaxy (SMG2), The Great Goal Pole (SM3DW))
 <Lakituthequick> 
16) Slimy Spring Galaxy (SMG2) — 37 — 1.81%
 <Lakituthequick> 
17) World 2-3 (SM3DL) — 30 — 1.46%
 <Lakituthequick> 
18) Special 7-3 (SM3DL) — 19 — 0.93%
 <Lakituthequick> 
19) O. Noki Bay (SMS) — 8 — 0.39%
 <Lakituthequick> 
19) O. Space Junk Galaxy (SMG) — 8 — 0.39%
 <Lakituthequick> 
21) O. Freezeflame Galaxy (SMG) — 6 — 0.29%
 <Meta_Knight> 
should we include odyssey kingdoms or should that be its own thing
 <Gamefreak75> 
include
 <Meta_Knight> 
if the former we should add metro and bowser kingdom at least
 <Lakituthequick> 
I have in my notes: Add Metro Kingdom: New Donk City, Wooded Kingdom: Steam Gardens
 <Lord_Bowser> 
metro, bowser, sand, and moon would all be good choices to add imo
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I didn't play the galaxy games so how are those in comparison to how the Odyssey kingdoms are done
 <Lord_Bowser> 
theyre more linear
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
like, I guess there's SM64 levels on here and those are more comparable so _________
 <turb> 
structured as entirely separate enterable missions
 <Meta_Knight> 
just looking at this list id be okay replacing toy time with a kingdom
 <Lakituthequick> 
haven't played galaxy either
 <mcd> 
would we add the kingdoms themselves or specific locations inside them
 <turb> 
they're linear and the world is different each time
 <Meta_Knight> 
because toy time has the luigi purple coins comet that people hate
 <Shoey> 
well meta we should knock the lowest vote getters off first
 <turb> 
kingdoms themselves would make more sense
 <mcd> 
id agree
 <Lord_Bowser> 
probably knock off 2-3 and 7-3
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
there's 18 nominees on this already right now so everything we add would cost removing something else
 <Meta_Knight> 
yeah but i said this before looking at the result shoey lol
 <Gamefreak75> 
64 and sunshine stages are on there
 <Gamefreak75> 
so odyssey is fine
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'd be willing to chop off some of the bottom ones
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
so that we can add odyssey
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
like, 1 sec
 <Shoey> 
out with the old in with the new
 <smasher> 
id want bowsers/metro/moon
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
gonna look at the full results for something
 <Shoey> 
I think sand would be a good addition
 <Lord_Bowser> 
metro/bowser/sand/moon
 <smasher> 
id be willing to kill the bottom three for them
 <Gamefreak75> 
metro/bowser/wooded
 <Lord_Bowser> 
is priority order for me
 <Lakituthequick> 
getting rid of the two 3D Land things to enter SMO sounds good
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
14) Grandmaster Galaxy (SMG2) — 62 — 3.03%
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
15) The Great Goal Pole (SM3DW) — 59 — 2.88%
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
16) Slimy Spring Galaxy (SMG2) — 37 — 1.81%
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'd be willing to take into account the huge gap down
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
and just cut the bottom three out for odyssey
 <smasher> 
yeah
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
so 2-3, 7-2, and slimy sprig
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
*spring
 <Shoey> 
but which kingdoms?
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
that, i cannot contribute to
 <mcd> 
id be happy to cut more for odyssey tbh if we need to
 <Shoey> 
cause it looks like there have been 5 nominated
 <Shoey> 
same mcd
 <Lord_Bowser> 
same
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah let's vote on that first
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yeah, we can go up for a couple more
 <Lakituthequick> 
metro at the very least as eveyone mentioned that one
 <Gamefreak75> 
metros a given imo
 <Meta_Knight> 
definitely metro
 <turb> 
yeah
 <Shoey> 
donk city bitch
 <mcd> 
i heard bowser and wooded mentioned earlier
 <Meta_Knight> 
aside that i personally want bowser kingdom but idk if anyone else wants that
 <Lord_Bowser> 
should we just autoreplace the bottom nominee with metro and then vote from there
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Remove all 3 of: The Great Goal Pole (SM3DW), Slimy Spring Galaxy (SMG2), and World 2-3 (SM3DL)? (y/n/a)
 <Shoey> 
y
 <Lord_Bowser> 
y
 <Meta_Knight> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <__2257> 
a
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
y
 <mcd> 
and 7-2, right?
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yeah
 <Gamefreak75> 
wait theres one lower than goal pole
 <Shoey> 
wasn' there another nomine we were gonna eliminate
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
wait whoops
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah i flubbed
 <Shoey> 
but all 4 fuck it
 <Gamefreak75> 
im y for removing all those 4 tbh though
 <Shoey> 
cut
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I meant the bottom 3
 <Lord_Bowser> 
same
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'm okay with just lopping off goal pole
 <turb> 
y
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
and giving us an extra odyssey slot
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
so my vote stays "y and also kill 7-2"
 <mcd> 
we can always add it back if we can't decide on a fourth
 <smasher> 
y
 <Shoey> 
my vote also stays y
 <mcd> 
y and kill 7-2/goal pole
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yeah
 <Meta_Knight> 
y
 <Lord_Bowser> 
y, kill bottom 4
 <Meta_Knight> 
odyssey is so fresh that i feel it has a huge impact on everything
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I can't really see anyone missing it and no one's complained so I'll just do that all yeah
 <smasher> 
y kill bottom 4
 <Gamefreak75> 
y to bottom 4
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so i'm seeing:
 <Meta_Knight> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
so how to format SMO things
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
metro/bowser/wooded/sand/moon
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
Metro Kingdom (SMO)?
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
and such
 <Meta_Knight> 
per perch
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
are there any others people are burning for
 <Lakituthequick> 
Kingdom: Location, Kingdom, or Location
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
...what/
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
?
 <Gamefreak75> 
just kingdomss
 <Meta_Knight> 
i feel we should omit city names/specific names
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
just kingdom yeah
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i thought we were just putting in the kingdoms wholesale
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
that's how I have it in my notes for other things
 <Lord_Bowser> 
each kingdom has a location subtitle perch
 <Lakituthequick> 
..what?
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
oh
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i.e metro's subtitle is new donk city
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
just kingdoms, imo
 <Shoey> 
kingdoms will suffice
 <Lord_Bowser> 
wooded's is steam gardens
 <Shoey> 
anyone who'd vote them will know what it is
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i still haven't played odyssey i'm doing my best
 <turb> 
kingdoms are obvious enough since thats whats displayed on the map
 <Lakituthequick> 
So Metro Kingdom is a given
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
each kingdom has a subsection though
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
does this matter to this
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I doubt it but I figured I'd raise the point
 <Meta_Knight> 
i would say its fine if its just the kingdom
 <Meta_Knight> 
its not like it doesnt include the city
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i guess one name might be more familiar to someone than another
 <Meta_Knight> 
the city is in the kingdom
 <Meta_Knight> 
but theres part of the kingdom not in the city
 <Lord_Bowser> 
the wiki prioritizes kingdom names though
 <Lord_Bowser> 
the subtitles are redirects
 <Shoey> 
I doubt most people know all the subsection names
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i.e. new donk city redirects to metro kingdom
 <Shoey> 
I only knew Donk City
 <Meta_Knight> 
the kingdom name is whats on the map you select
 <Lakituthequick> 
.... Kingdom is clear enough so
 
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 <Meta_Knight> 
just put "the entire planet (SMO)" and call it a day /s
 <Meta_Knight> 
what about mushroom kingdom tho
 <Lakituthequick> 
Mushroom Kingdom: Peach' Castle
 <Meta_Knight> 
actually nvm the ones we're suggesting is fine
 <turb> 
subtitle it as smo if it gets in but it doesn't look like it will
 <Lakituthequick> 
so are we gonna choose which of the five (metro/bowser/wooded/sand/moon) we aren't going to put in or
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
is there anyone who's absolutely against just the Kingdom name
 <Lord_Bowser> 
not me
 <Gamefreak75> 
no
 <Lakituthequick> 
Kingdom is perfectly okay
 <smasher> 
i support it just being the kingdom nam
 <smasher> 
e
 <Meta_Knight> 
maybe have a vote for the one people dont want in out of those 5
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
gr88, so are those the only 5 people suggest
 <Lakituthequick> 
ye
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Select the one you do not want to be included in M26 (metro/bowser/wooded/sand/moon/a)
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
moon
 <__2257> 
moon
 <Gamefreak75> 
moon
 <Meta_Knight> 
moon
 <Lakituthequick> 
moon
 <Shoey> 
moon
 <smasher> 
wooded
 <Lord_Bowser> 
wooded
 <smasher> 
0-0-2-0-5
 <turb> 
moon
 <smasher> 
rip moon kingdom
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah rip moon
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
updating the sheet now
 <Lakituthequick> 
Metro Kingdom, Bowser's Kingdom, Wooded Kingdom, Sand Kingdom from memory
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
any other concerns for M26?
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
none from me
 <Lakituthequick> 
nee
 <turb> 
no
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
gr888888888
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
M27 Favorite Boss Battle (Tubba Blubba (Paper Mario), Phantamanta (Super Mario Sunshine), Brobot (Super Paper Mario), Rawk Hawk (PM:TTYD), Bowser in the Sky (Super Mario 64), Kaptain K. Rool 1 and 2 (DKC2), Super Dimentio (Super Paper Mario), Elder Princess Shroob (M&L: PiT), Megaleg (Super Mario Galaxy), General Guy (Paper Mario),
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Kingfin (Super Mario Galaxy), Motley Bossblob (SM3DW), Tiki Tong (DKCR), Popple and Rookie (M&L: SS), Dark Bowser (M&L: BIS), Bowser/Meowser (SM3DW), Bowser (Super Mario Galaxy), Shiny RoboBowser (M&L: PJ))
 <Lord_Bowser> 
nope
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
along with updating some of these to have abbreviated game names
 <Lakituthequick> 
16) Motley Bossblob (SM3DW) — 42 — 2.00%
 <Lakituthequick> 
17) Tubba Blubba (PM) — 39 — 1.85%
 <Lakituthequick> 
18) Tiki Tong (DKCR) — 20 — 0.95%
 <Lakituthequick> 
19) O. Bouldergeist (SMG) — 9 — 0.43%
 <Lakituthequick> 
20) O. Baby Bowser (YI) — 8 — 0.38%
 <Lakituthequick> 
21) O. Bowser (Super Mario Galaxy 2) — 7 — 0.33%
 <Lakituthequick> 
21) O. Hisstocrat (SM3DW) — 7 — 0.33%
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
this is at 18 nominees
 <Shoey> 
dragon from odyssey
 <Gamefreak75> 
rip tiki tong
 <Meta_Knight> 
dragon was underwhelming
 <Lord_Bowser> 
tbh i really liked mollusque-lanceur
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
the dragon fucking sucked and I wish it was just not included in the game at all
 <Shoey> 
meta we fought a goddamn dark souls boss
 <Meta_Knight> 
my vote is for mechawiggler
 <Gamefreak75> 
id vote for torkdrift or mollusque
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but it was visually cool
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
draggadon
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
:)
 <Lakituthequick> 
Ruined Dragon was definitely underwhelming but cool
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
here's all of the options
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i have no contributions to odyssey, though
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Madame Broode, Knucklotec, Torkdrift, Bowser, Mechawiggler, Mollusque-Lanceur, Cookatiel, Ruined Dragon, RoboBrood
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
so i'll be sitting this part out
 <Shoey> 
oh yeah I love fist god
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
out of those I really liked Knucklotec, Torkdrift, and Mechawiggler
 <Lord_Bowser> 
mollusque-lanceur, torkdrift, and mechawiggler get my vote
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Mollusque-Lanceur looked cool and I love him but it was really annoying
 <Gamefreak75> 
im with lb on this
 <Lakituthequick> 
Knucklotec is pretty neat yeah
 <Meta_Knight> 
whats torkdrift
 <Lord_Bowser> 
the wooded kingdom boss
 <Lakituthequick> 
UFO that eats flowers
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
the wooded kingdom ufo thing
 <Lord_Bowser> 
flower ufo
 <Meta_Knight> 
oh
 <Meta_Knight> 
yeah i want mechawiggler and knucklotec
 <Meta_Knight> 
idk about a thrid
 <Shoey> 
sub out the squid for the knuckle boy
 <Meta_Knight> 
*third
 <Shoey> 
and that's my vote
 <turb> 
I'd say torkdrift and mechawiggler imo
 <turb> 
but i like both
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we haven't removed any yet so there's no set number on what to add
 <turb> 
i'd be better off just voting when polls come up after removals are made
 <Meta_Knight> 
remove the bottom 3 again i suppose
 <Meta_Knight> 
and we can add from there
 <Meta_Knight> 
and if we want more we can
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it's kind of a smooth decline in numbers down the list so there's no obvious cutoff
 <Lakituthequick> 
between 15 and 16 is a slightly larger difference than a bit around it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so how about we vote like this
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RsocZ6s-whVG__FrTqGK_CVeDPOJiAVeYBB-7aat2oo/edit#
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
here's the complete results so you can all see the list
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Remove how many from the bottom of M27? (0/1/2/3/4/5/a)
 <Gamefreak75> 
3
 <Stargazing> 
3
 <mcd> 
3
 <Lakituthequick> 
3
 <__2257> 
a
 <Shoey> 
a
 <turb> 
3
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
3
 <Meta_Knight> 
3
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
3
 <smasher> 
op3
 <smasher> 
3
 <Lord_Bowser> 
3
 <smasher> 
why is there op
 <Lakituthequick> 
this will remove Motley, Tubba and Tiki
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
looks like 3 so that'll be
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah that
 <Shoey> 
damn why did we never add steak to favorite boss fight
 <smasher> 
a sad day for tubba
 <smasher> 
10-0-2
 
Baby_Luigi has joined #mwikiawards
 <Lakituthequick> 
...steak is a good one actually
 <Lakituthequick> 
darn
 <Baby_Luigi> 
sorry, I didn't pay attention to the time
 <Shoey> 
lop another boss fight off and add steak :P
 <Lakituthequick> 
i mean techically we could add steak and two smo ones
 <smasher> 
what was steak again
 <Lakituthequick> 
colour splash boss
 <Shoey> 
it was the boss fight in color splash
 <Lord_Bowser> 
did mario and rabbids have any good boss fights actually
 <Shoey> 
where you had to cook a steak
 <Lakituthequick> 
you defeat it by seasoning it
 <Shoey> 
it was part of why color splash is so good
 <turb> 
i thought steak was already brought up one of the other years and ultimately not added
 <smasher> 
weird
 <turb> 
i guess that's not a case against it definitively
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
lb has a good question
 <Meta_Knight> 
i havent played mario and rabbids so idk
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
did rabbids have anything for this award
 <smasher> 
i played color splash for half an hour
 <smasher> 
and rabbids too
 <Shoey> 
I don't really remember the bosses anton
 <Lakituthequick> 
is rabbid kong a good boss(tm)
 <smasher> 
i need to play that more before i can conttribute a boss
 <Lakituthequick> 
i haven't played the ham so
 <Lakituthequick> 
*game
 <Lakituthequick> 
(ham?)
 <Shoey> 
I kind of remember all the bosses being annoying tbh
 <Lord_Bowser> 
steamed games
 <Lord_Bowser> 
well if theyre only memorable for being annoying then theyre probably not good nominees
 <Lakituthequick> 
yeah
 <Lakituthequick> 
can always look at write-ins next year
 <Lord_Bowser> 
man the problem is only like 2 people total played mario and rabbids
 <smasher> 
it doesnt look like e need to add rabbids right now
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah I agree with that
 <Shoey> 
it was a good game
 <Shoey> 
people should buy it
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I want to play it and i heard it's on sale in Best Buy
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so out of Odyssey the ones I saw people care about adding were
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Mollusque-Lanceur, Knucklotec, Torkdrift, and Mechawiggler
 <Meta_Knight> 
i have it shoey
 <Meta_Knight> 
i just havent played it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
are there any others people really want to consider for this award
 <Lakituthequick> 
other than steak, nope
 <Shoey> 
go team steak
 <turb> 
out of the odyssey bosses no
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
is steak like a serious response for this
 <Shoey> 
yes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
serious enough for me to put time into discussing it
 <Shoey> 
i'm for it
 <Lakituthequick> 
oh
 <Lakituthequick> 
58) O. Steak (PM:CS) — 1 — 0.05%
 <Shoey> 
if nobody else is that's fine
 <Lakituthequick> 
ahahah
 <Meta_Knight> 
no opinion on steak but if it wasnt in last year and didnt get much for a write in or anything im against it
 <Meta_Knight> 
odyssey should be prioritized
 <turb> 
yeah that's the thing
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm not including it
 <turb> 
it's basically a shitpost vote
 <Lakituthequick> 
yeah smo first
 <mcd> 
i had no idea steak existed up until this point
 <Lord_Bowser> 
ugh my parents are forcing me to socialize
 <Lord_Bowser> 
afk for a bit
 <Meta_Knight> 
it probably becaues none of us actually played color splash
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so there's 3 spots with 4 SMO bosses
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
quick lb say something you don't want
 <Shoey> 
nobody played color splash but and gamefreak
 <Shoey> 
me and
 <Lakituthequick> 
i still want to play cs
 <Shoey> 
you should it's amazing
 <Baby_Luigi> 
the battle system is what turned me off of it mostly
 <smasher> 
which one was torkdrift again
 <Lakituthequick> 
ufo
 <Baby_Luigi> 
the ufo thing
 <Shoey> 
My votes for the 3 that aren't the squid
 <smasher> 
oh
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Which SMO boss do you NOT want included in M27 Favorite Boss Battle? (Mollusque-Lanceur/Knucklotec/Torkdrift/Mechawiggler)
 <Lakituthequick> 
Torkdrift
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
all will be given the (SMO) tag, of course
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Mollusque-Lanceur
 <Shoey> 
squid boss
 <smasher> 
mollusque-lanceur
 <Gamefreak75> 
knuckle
 <turb> 
Mollusque-Lanceur
 <Meta_Knight> 
mollusque
 <__2257> 
mollusque lanceur
 <Gamefreak75> 
:'(
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Mollusque Lancer
 <smasher> 
goodbye mollusque lanceur
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
lb would be a vote for keep squidman but i don't think it'd be enough
 <smasher> 
7-1-1-0-0
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so rip him
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm adding those other 3
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
any other considerations for M27?
 <smasher> 
im good
 <Lakituthequick> 
steak
 <Lakituthequick> 
(no)
 <Meta_Knight> 
im fine with how it is
 <Baby_Luigi> 
no
 <mcd> 
not really
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
gr888888888888888888
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
M28 Favorite Game Setting (Mushroom Kingdom (Super Mario Bros.), Mushroom Kingdom (Paper Mario), Super Mario RPG World, Dinosaur Land, Yoshi's Island, Isle Delfino, Beanbean Kingdom, Rogueport & surrounding areas, Flipside & Flopside, Bowser's Castle, Sarasaland, Donkey Kong Island, Sprixie Kingdom, Comet Observatory & Galaxies, Pi'illo Island, Prism Island)
 <Lakituthequick> 
14) Sprixie Kingdom — 65 — 2.95%
 <Lakituthequick> 
15) Prism Island — 48 — 2.18%
 <Lakituthequick> 
16) Sarasaland — 37 — 1.68%
 <Lakituthequick> 
17) O. Peach's Castle — 9 — 0.41%
 <Lakituthequick> 
18) O. Diamond City — 7 — 0.32%
 <Lakituthequick> 
19) O. Mushroom Kingdom (M&L:BIS)) — 6 — 0.27%
 <Lakituthequick> 
20 is new donk city somewhy
 <Meta_Knight> 
itd be like "city" but the thing is there really isnt any other level like that
 <Lakituthequick> 
my notes say "Add Cascade Kingdom" which is another SMO thing
 <Shoey> 
i'm good with how this award is
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
new donk city was included last year because there was more than enough previews of it to allow a decent opinion
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
there's 16 right now and I'd like to see some SMO representation
 <smasher> 
i would too
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so Cascade Kingdom
 <Gamefreak75> 
can we encompass it all into one nomination?
 <Stargazing> 
i'd support cascade kingdom
 <Lakituthequick> 
SMO is probably too diverse to do a all-in thing
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah that was my thought
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Cascade Kingdom is meh to me
 <__2257> 
but the way the award is written now, the nominees are all something that was exactly the setting of an entire game
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and it also introduces things like "Bowser's Castle"
 <smasher> 
one nom would be good if it was possible but yeah i dont think it would work
 <Gamefreak75> 
galaxies are in there too
 <mcd> 
yeah galaxy only has one nom
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and SMO's bowser's castle is wildly different
 <__2257> 
so for consistency, it should be the entire world
 <Gamefreak75> 
same with pm and pm2
 <Meta_Knight> 
the best way i can encompass everything is something like "The whole planet SMO"
 <smasher> 
ok 22 does have a point
 <Meta_Knight> 
or something
 <Lakituthequick> 
well on 22's point, most nominated games are indeed very coherent
 <Lakituthequick> 
SMO is wild
 <turb> 
yeah idk if this needs to be discussed more on the forums later if the entire world is a big point of contention
 <turb> 
yeah like
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Super Mario Odyssey Kingdoms
 <turb> 
smo isn't as cohesive
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
is paper mario really
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
all that coherent
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
or rogueport and its surrondings
 <Baby_Luigi> 
TTYD isn't
 <Baby_Luigi> 
the first one is more coherent
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
and flipside/flopside isn't the setting of an entire game
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
so if we're wanting to be consistent we'd need to reword that one
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
this award feels _ if it's tough just figuring out how to nominate something
 <Baby_Luigi> 
why is Mushroom Kingdom split from SMB from PM anyway
 <Lakituthequick> 
i haven't played any paper mario's yet so can't judge those
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
"M28 - Favorite Game Setting - The game with the best setting overall. Focus is placed on the entirety of the setting as a whole, rather than just individual areas."
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
is what our current definition is
 <Shoey> 
I think the paper mario world is now considered a different world baby_luigi
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so it is the whole game
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and SMO just doesn't fit this
 <Shoey> 
like how we've go super mario rpg world on here
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Since Paper Jam...?
 <__2257> 
i dont think its about paper jam
 <__2257> 
the thing is
 <__2257> 
the focus is supposed to be on the setting as depicted in a specific game
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
honestly I'm perfectly fine with dismantling this award and reworking it
 <__2257> 
so smb and paper mario are jsut separate because theyre separate games
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'm ok with it
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
as in
 <Baby_Luigi> 
But Mushroom Kingdom is like different in every Mario game anyway
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
replacing/overhauling this award
 <Gamefreak75> 
im fine with that
 <Lakituthequick> 
smo is all different settings really so ..
 <smasher> 
ok id be ok with overhauling this
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Super Mario 64 is different than Super Mario Bros.
 <__2257> 
not because theyre supposedly separate locations within the fictional chronology of the series
 <Meta_Knight> 
i agree with anton/perch
 <__2257> 
well yeah but we couldnt include all of them
 <__2257> 
that would be too many nominees
 <Stargazing> 
yeah agree
 <Baby_Luigi> 
imo it's a bit messy to me
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'll make a thread for this after the meeting
 <Lakituthequick> 
:ok:
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but just some examples of how we could approach this is:
 <Baby_Luigi> 
People might like Mushroom Kingdom in SMB3 but not in SMB idk
 <Baby_Luigi> 
it's bizarre
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
redefine the entire award
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
allow individual locations under certain circumstances
 <mcd> 
presumably its just treated as different parts of the same kingdom
 <__2257> 
im pretty sure its like this to try and keep it from being a retread of favorite level
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
replace the award entirely
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah
 <Lakituthequick> 
good point
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Let's save this for thread then
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if we included entire kingdoms in favorite level then it's redundant in here as well
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i think
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'd be down for just scrapping the award
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
and coming up with an alternative
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
this has alwas been one of those weird awards
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we could also ju9st not include SMO but that feels bad
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I do think the award has a good concept though
 <mcd> 
itd get write-ins as well
 <Lakituthequick> 
it already got last year
 <Baby_Luigi> 
It serves as a cumulation of levels, not just one particular level
 <turb> 
i like the concept of the award
 <mcd> 
it made sense up until odyssey
 <turb> 
but if we have any other ideas floating around they can be pitched
 <turb> 
yeah thats the thing
 <mcd> 
most mario games stuck to the same general location
 <turb> 
it was shaky if workable
 <smasher> 
i like the concept of the award too
 <turb> 
odyssey is too spread out
 <mcd> 
except galaxy which is easier to account for because it had a hub world
 <turb> 
workable if shaky
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah like I wouldn't vote for "all of SMO' in this award because fuck Luncheon Kingdom
 <turb> 
whatever
 <__2257> 
i honestly dont think odyssey has changed things
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but I want to rig the award for SMO's Bowser's Kingdom
 <__2257> 
smb3 had basically
 <__2257> 
the same setting
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I agree with 2257
 <mcd> 
but smb3 is kinda easier to ignore
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Also, galaxies technically aren't related to each other either
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah that's one of the ways to approach it, by just changing the definition to allow it and be more clear
 <mcd> 
whereas odyssey is like the biggest mario game right now
 <Lakituthequick> 
yeah but they share the whole 'galaxy' thing
 <Baby_Luigi> 
But doesn't Odyssey share Kingdoms as well..?
 <Baby_Luigi> 
with their own unique currency and moons?
 <__2257> 
i think kingdoms are as coherent of a theme as galaxies are
 <Baby_Luigi> 
^
 <Lakituthequick> 
yeah
 <__2257> 
they all kind of follow the same format with yeah, th ecurrency and moons
 <__2257> 
as well as the inhabitants, the way the levels are named, the tourist book thing, etc
 <Baby_Luigi> 
The only exceptions are the arena kingdoms but we can easily exclude those
 <Lakituthequick> 
i feel like there is some distinqtion but you raise good points
 <__2257> 
the award is about the way the setting is presented in the game, and i think theres a clear theme here
 <__2257> 
its not incoherent
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok well I'll make this a forum thread
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I think we should save this for thread
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Yeah
 <turb> 
yeah
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm siding with 22 but I'm _____________ on the whole thing
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I feel we'll just need to regroup the nominees at the very least
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so next up are M29 and M30
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I've already went and updated them with the switch in generations and the moving of nominees from 30 --> 29
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
M29 Favorite Classic Game (GCN/GBA and older) (Super Mario World, Super Mario 64, Paper Mario, Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars, Donkey Kong 64, Super Mario Bros., Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, Mario Kart 64, Yoshi's Story, Mario Party 2, Super Mario Bros. 2 (USA), Wario Land 3, Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest,
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Mario Party 3, Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Super Mario Sunshine, Wario Land 4)
 <Lakituthequick> 
12) Mario Party 2 — 47 — 2.08%
 <Lakituthequick> 
13) Yoshi's Story — 38 — 1.68%
 <Lakituthequick> 
14) Super Mario Bros. 2 (USA) — 34 — 1.50%
 <Lakituthequick> 
15) Wario Land 3 — 30 — 1.33%
 <Lakituthequick> 
16) O. Donkey Kong Country — 5 — 0.22%
 <Lakituthequick> 
17) O. Super Mario Land — 4 — 0.18%
 <Lakituthequick> 
17) O. Super Mario Land 2 — 4 — 0.18%
 <Lakituthequick> 
19) O. Mario Party 1 — 3 — 0.13%
 <Baby_Luigi> 
No change
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I think we're at 18 if I remembered how to count
 <__2257> 
did this get overfilled by moving things from m30
 <__2257> 
oh
 <__2257> 
ok
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
someone else may want to count just to get a 2nd opinion
 <smasher> 
if were at 18 i think we are fine
 <smasher> 
but i will count
 <smasher> 
since im the ounter
 <smasher> 
counter
 <Lakituthequick> 
you moved three games
 <Lakituthequick> 
15 + 3 = 18
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
:clap:
 <Gamefreak75> 
its 18 yeah
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm content with this with no further changes
 <smasher> 
yep its 18
 <smasher> 
no further changes
 <Baby_Luigi> 
18
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I miscounted 19 twice, but got 18 a third time
 <smasher> 
i miscounted 19 too
 <Meta_Knight> 
im okay with this
 <mcd> 
i also miscounted 19 twice lol
 <smasher> 
but that was accidentally counting smrpg as 2 options
 <Lakituthequick> 
sounds risque
 <smasher> 
damn subtitles
 <Meta_Knight> 
i counted 18
 <mcd> 
yeah nothing really to add/remove
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
woo
 <Baby_Luigi> 
!skip
 <mcd> 
surprised and appalled smb2 isn't higher
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
M30 Favorite Modern Game (Wii/DS and newer) (Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Mario Kart Wii, Super Mario 3D Land, Super Paper Mario, Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon, Super Mario 3D World, Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, Mario Kart 8/Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Super Mario Maker, Yoshi's Woolly World/Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World, Paper Mario: Color Splash
 <Baby_Luigi> 
^
 <mcd> 
i vote we replace all the nominees with smb2
 <Lakituthequick> 
13) Yoshi's Woolly World/Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World — 42 — 1.85%
 <Lakituthequick> 
14) Super Mario 3D Land — 37 — 1.63%
 <Lakituthequick> 
15) Wario Land 4 — 23 — 1.01%
 <Lakituthequick> 
16) O. Mario & Luigi: Dream Team — 10 — 0.44%
 <Lakituthequick> 
17) O. Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga — 8 — 0.35%
 <Lakituthequick> 
18) O. Mario Kart DS — 6 — 0.26%
 <Baby_Luigi> 
y
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I vote y on that
 <Lakituthequick> 
wario land moved
 <mcd> 
wario land 4's in the other award now anyway
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
12 nominees on this one so I'd like to get more
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
15 is the goal
 <Gamefreak75> 
dont add odyssey
 <Lakituthequick> 
lets add smo
 <Baby_Luigi> 
duh
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Super Mario Odyssey is an instant add so I'm just doing that now
 <smasher> 
add odyssey obviously
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Super Mario Run?
 <smasher> 
i would prefer two more as well
 <Shoey> 
add mario and rabbids i guess
 <turb> 
rabbids might- yeah
 <Meta_Knight> 
rabbids is fair
 <mcd> 
rabbids has good reviews
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'm ok with rabbids
 <smasher> 
yeah id be ok with rabbids
 <smasher> 
maybe dream team as the 15th?
 <smasher> 
its the highest write in
 <mcd> 
captain toad could be a good addition?
 <Stargazing> 
it's very close to the previous write in though, and isn't that close to wario land 4
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I did suggest Super Mario Run but that's a small mobile title so eh
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I wouldn't mind Captain Toad
 <Baby_Luigi> 
great game
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
ooh
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i like captain toad
 <Shoey> 
yeah captain toad is great
 <mcd> 
its getting a port too
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Captain Toad 4 Smash
 <Gamefreak75> 
add dkc:tf
 <Lakituthequick> 
captain toad wasn't previously written in
 <Shoey> 
why the hell isn't tropical freeze in ths
 <smasher> 
i think we removed a dkc option at one point
 <smasher> 
because the voters are terrible and it scored low
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions idk
 <smasher> 
but the port might make it more viable
 <turb> 
it feels weird to put a port of an old game on but
 <smasher> 
i wouldnt be opposed to either it or captain toad
 <turb> 
i dunno
 <smasher> 
i agree yeah
 <Meta_Knight> 
it feels weird to me too
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
not sure about superstar saga
 <Gamefreak75> 
im voting no on ss remake
 <turb> 
the removal of dk was only for the level/whatever awards iirc
 <Meta_Knight> 
im also against ss
 <turb> 
so dkctf could probably be on here
 <Meta_Knight> 
it doesnt feel as like
 <Meta_Knight> 
noticable
 <turb> 
I'm tlaking about ss for the port thing
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, Super Mario Run, Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle, Mario & Luigi: Dream Team, Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so that's 6
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
with 2 easy slots but up to 5
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
SS isn't getting wide support I'm seeing and that'd knock it down to 5
 <Lakituthequick> 
not really for ss and smr
 <smasher> 
i mean i cant say im against adding everything there but ss
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
how do people feel about Dream Team and Super Mario Run
 <smasher> 
smr is __ but valid
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Dream Team is eh
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
dream team is valid but i'm not a fan of it
 <Baby_Luigi> 
It does have to compete with BiS anyway
 <Lakituthequick> 
I feel SMR isn't sizable enough for this kinda poll
 <Gamefreak75> 
i dont care for smr but its w/e daisy fanboys will vote for it
 <Meta_Knight> 
i feel like we would have added dream team by now if it was like noteworthy enough
 <turb> 
both valid but neither seem like good choices
 <Lakituthequick> 
the others are fully fledged games at the least
 <smasher> 
we could cut those two then and have 16
 <Lakituthequick> 
^
 <smasher> 
unless there are two better suggestions
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok i'll do this one at a time
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
let me just set it up
 <smasher> 
i think everyones fine with tf/rabbids/ct
 <smasher> 
ok
 <Stargazing> 
i still have super mario run and i agree with cutting it off
 <Stargazing> 
it's not viable at all and is an automatic last
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add "Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker" to M30? (y/n/a)
 <Gamefreak75> 
y
 <smasher> 
y
 <Shoey> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <__2257> 
a
 <Baby_Luigi> 
y
 <smasher> 
5-0-1
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
y
 <smasher> 
6-0-1
 <Stargazing> 
y
 <smasher> 
7-0-1
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
gr8 so i'll add it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add "Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze" to M30? (y/n/a)
 <Baby_Luigi> 
y
 <smasher> 
y
 <Gamefreak75> 
Y
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <mcd> 
y
 <Shoey> 
y
 <smasher> 
6-0-0
 <Meta_Knight> 
y
 <smasher> 
7-0-0
 <__2257> 
a
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
gr88
 <smasher> 
7-0-1
 <smasher> 
you RUINEDIT
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
that brings us to 15
 <mcd> 
gr7-0-1
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add "Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle" to M30? (y/n/a)
 <Baby_Luigi> 
y
 <smasher> 
y
 <__2257> 
not comfortable voting for a game i didnt play
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Stargazing> 
a
 <turb> 
a
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
a
 <__2257> 
a
 <smasher> 
3-0-3
 <Gamefreak75> 
a
 <smasher> 
3-05
 <smasher> 
3-0-5
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
y
 <smasher> 
the abstains have it
 <smasher> 
4-0-5
 <turb> 
I'll switch to y
 <Shoey> 
y
 <mcd> 
y
 <smasher> 
7-0-4
 <smasher> 
there we are
 <Shoey> 
sorry I went to get cereal
 <Lakituthequick> 
i mean i haven't played rabbids either but it appears to be well-recieved
 <mcd> 
yeah it can't hurt to have it on the poll
 <Meta_Knight> 
y
 <Baby_Luigi> 
what's not to like about an xcom mario game
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add "Super Mario Run" to M30?
 <Baby_Luigi> 
n
 <Shoey> 
n
 <Stargazing> 
n
 <smasher> 
n
 <Lakituthequick> 
n
 <Gamefreak75> 
rabbids
 <__2257> 
a
 <smasher> 
0-5-1
 <mcd> 
a
 <turb> 
n
 <Gamefreak75> 
n
 <Meta_Knight> 
n
 <smasher> 
0-8-2
 <smasher> 
super mario run away
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
rip
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
nb
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
*n
 <smasher> 
0-9-2
 <Lakituthequick> 
vote: y/n/a
 <Lakituthequick> 
gf: rabbids
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add "Mario & Luigi: Dream Team" to M30? (y/n/a)
 <mcd> 
id like to switch to rabbids
 <Baby_Luigi> 
n
 <turb> 
n
 <Shoey> 
a
 <smasher> 
0-9-2-1
 <mcd> 
n
 <smasher> 
a
 <Stargazing> 
n
 <smasher> 
0-4-2
 <Lakituthequick> 
a
 <Meta_Knight> 
n
 <Gamefreak75> 
a
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
n
 <smasher> 
0-6-4
 <smasher> 
the dream is dead
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
n
 <mcd> 
the team is dead
 <__2257> 
a
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add "Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions" to M30? (y/n/a)
 <smasher> 
0-7-5
 <Gamefreak75> 
n
 <Baby_Luigi> 
a
 <smasher> 
n
 <mcd> 
n
 <Lakituthequick> 
n
 <smasher> 
im just too _____ on adding a remake
 <Stargazing> 
a
 <smasher> 
0-4-2
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
n
 <smasher> 
0-5-2
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Even if the remake is actually good and not a cash-in?
 <smasher> 
yes
 <turb> 
n
 <smasher> 
its still a remake
 <Meta_Knight> 
n
 <__2257> 
n
 <Lakituthequick> 
fun fact: companies don't remake games if they won't make money
 <smasher> 
im just not fully surre it counts
 <Meta_Knight> 
the thing is though
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Companies don't make games if they won't make money
 <smasher> 
and the original never did well on this to begin with
 <Meta_Knight> 
superstar saga remake feels liike a cashin
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
any other considerations for M30?
 <Meta_Knight> 
bis remake even more so
 <smasher> 
0-8-2 btw
 <smasher> 
id say make this 18 if i had two more suggestions
 <__2257> 
regardless of whether its a cash in, i wouldnt put it on this award
 <mcd> 
don't think so
 <smasher> 
so unless anyone else does id move on
 <mcd> 
looks like we're done with mario
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if that's it we can move on to Fail Awards
 <__2257> 
i think a remake of a classic game is a classic game, even if its newer
 <smasher> 
^
 <Baby_Luigi> 
i think it depends on what has changed
 <Baby_Luigi> 
which something like SSS + BM clearly isn't
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
F1 Worst Character (Mario, Princess Daisy, Waluigi, Wario, Petey Piranha, Birdo, Mimi, Starlow, Lubba, Princess Peach, Bowser Jr., Toad, Fawful, Pink Gold Peach, Baby Rosalina, Kersti, Rosalina)
 <Lakituthequick> 
15) Bowser Jr. — 34 — 1.47%
 <Lakituthequick> 
16) Petey Piranha — 27 — 1.17%
 <Lakituthequick> 
17) Princess Peach — 20 — 0.87%
 <Lakituthequick> 
18) O. Luigi — 5 — 0.22%
 <Lakituthequick> 
19) O. Bowser — 4 — 0.17%
 <Lakituthequick> 
19) O. Dimentio — 4 — 0.17%
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I wouldn't change anything
 <Lakituthequick> 
nope
 <smasher> 
i wouldnt either
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm up for removing Peach
 <smasher> 
i cant think of anything newer
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but let me check to see if she's been low on this consistently
 <Lakituthequick> 
possible
 <Gamefreak75> 
all of the rabbids
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Broodals
 <__2257> 
i want to lol
 <smasher> 
well id be ok with removing peach
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
if peach has been consistently super low i'd like to cut her
 <Lakituthequick> 
peach is officially not terrible apparently
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
maybe also petey?
 <Baby_Luigi> 
yeah I'd cut Petey over peach
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
2016
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
16) Mario — 41 — 1.53% 17) Princess Peach — 29 — 1.08% 18) O. Bowser — 13 — 0.49%
 <turb> 
I'd definitely rather cut peach
 <smasher> 
definitely cut peach over petey
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
if 2015 is also low
 <Lakituthequick> 
yaeh
 <mcd> 
yeah id cut peach
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
then i fully support cutting peach
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
10) Starlow — 69 — 2.57% 11) Petey Piranha — 61 — 2.28% 11) Wario — 61 — 2.28%
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
this is Petey's first time really being that low so it's not as strong of a contender but _
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I'll leave it
 <smasher> 
id leave petey
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Remove "Princess Peach" from F1 Worst Character? (y/n/a)
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
y
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Baby_Luigi> 
a
 <smasher> 
y
 <mcd> 
y
 <__2257> 
y
 <Shoey> 
a
 <Gamefreak75> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i'm so happy
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
also yeah
 <smasher> 
7-0-2
 <turb> 
y
 <smasher> 
8-0-2
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'm gonna withdraw my idea to cut petey
 <smasher> 
the princess is safe
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
peach is consistently low, petey might have been a fluke
 <smasher> 
yeah
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
so leave him on at least this year
 <Meta_Knight> 
y
 <smasher> 
9-02
 <smasher> 
9-0-2
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
9-2
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
who voted no
 <Stargazing> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
any characters to add?
 <Baby_Luigi> 
eh, I don't like Peach but I have the unupopular opinion here
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I literally hated all of the broodals so it'd be hard to pick one or two
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Broodals
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
can i just nominate Characters Anton Doesn't Like
 <Meta_Knight> 
lets just add them all as a collective group
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
as one big nominee
 <Meta_Knight> 
throw in rabbids too
 <Baby_Luigi> 
They're one of the worst parts of Odyssey
 <mcd> 
i've got to head to bed, goodnight
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
night
 
mcd has left irc.darkmyst.org:6697 (Quit: z)
 <smasher> 
zero 2 from kirby voted no
 <Lakituthequick> 
if any it would be harriet because i don't like her alugh at all
 <Baby_Luigi> 
idk people like Harriet
 <Lakituthequick> 
did they
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I have no idea why she's an annoying turd
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if I had to choose one to like it'd be hariet
 <smasher> 
a broodal/rabbid wouldnt be a bad addition
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I think spewart looks the dumbest
 <Gamefreak75> 
rango > the others dont @ me
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
because people wanna fuck her
 <Gamefreak75> 
^
 <Baby_Luigi> 
why
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
furries
 <Baby_Luigi> 
she's a fucking rabbit
 <Gamefreak75> 
furries
 <smasher> 
furries
 <Lord_Bowser> 
im feeling very awkward and anxious but im hwre
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
hi lb
 <Meta_Knight> 
it be like adding one koopaling though
 <Lord_Bowser> 
spewart is easily the worst
 <turb> 
i just think she has a good design compared to the rest of them
 <Meta_Knight> 
as opposed to all of them
 <Gamefreak75> 
id be fine with grouping them all tbh
 <Meta_Knight> 
but 5 nominees for something all the sam eis also terrible
 <smasher> 
idk if i would add a group of characters for worst character
 <Lakituthequick> 
it's a dishonour to be on this poll so i feel fine adding just one
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I like Madame Broode the most because she's the most over-the-top
 <smasher> 
even if they probably deserve it
 <smasher> 
i dont oppose adding just one
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Spewart has a dumb design
 <Lakituthequick> 
broode is pretty funny yeah
 <smasher> 
which one was spewart i cant fucking remember the males names
 <Baby_Luigi> 
It's Morton Bunny
 <Lord_Bowser> 
the one who spits poison
 <smasher> 
ok that was my guess
 <smasher> 
hes bad
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Rango looks quirky and Topper is bland as far as i'm concerned
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok idk how to approach this so
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
are there any other characters beyond broodals people want to add
 <Lakituthequick> 
fwiw there was a suggestion to add Jojora to this in the general discussion thread
 <Meta_Knight> 
rabbids
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Yeah I remember that
 <Lakituthequick> 
no opinions otherwise
 <Baby_Luigi> 
but idk how terrible she is
 <Baby_Luigi> 
She has only one small appearance as a minor boss fight
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
she got no votes ever so I'm not considering it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
are any rabbids distinguishable enough or just
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Rabbids..do they even count?
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
"Rabbids"
 <smasher> 
im not familiar with jojora enough but if thats the case probably not
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
jojora is really minor
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
one boss fight in one game
 <Lakituthequick> 
exactly my thoughts
 <Baby_Luigi> 
exactly too
 <turb> 
jojora exists for the whole level i think but she's really minor
 <smasher> 
rabbids might count since when theyre not in costumes theyre all the same
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
she does
 <turb> 
i think rabbids are just rabbids
 <Baby_Luigi> 
As for Rabbids, idk it feels weird because they're not Mario characters
 <turb> 
no distinct characters
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Rabbid Mario, Rabbid Luigi, Rabbid Peach, and Rabbid Yoshi
 <Lakituthequick> 
per blof
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
there is a Worst Enemy award but they're not really enemies
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but we'll get to that when we get there
 <Baby_Luigi> 
All of those Rabbid protagonists in the Mario + Rabbids are interchangeable to me
 <smasher> 
i think im indifferent to adding a rabbid
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Rabbid Peach is...ugh
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so we can do both broodals and rabbids similarly, by choosing which of the 4 you would want to add, if any at all
 <Shoey> 
i'm against adding rabbids
 <Lakituthequick> 
the 'character' rabbids are just rabbids cosplaying if anything
 <Meta_Knight> 
as much as i hate the rabbids i agree with whats been said
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Well they do have their own personalities too
 <Meta_Knight> 
like we've never added final fantasy characters even when they made a cameo
 <smasher> 
fair
 <Baby_Luigi> 
They're not Mario character so
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I'm not for adding them
 <Gamefreak75> 
no ones suggested them tbh
 <Meta_Knight> 
if theyre popular as a write in then we can consider them
 <Lakituthequick> 
^
 <smasher> 
^
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: If we're to add any broodal to F1, please select which one (Hariet/Rango/Spewert/Topper/a)
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
^
 <turb> 
spewart
 <Gamefreak75> 
sp
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
a
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Spewart
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Spewart
 <smasher> 
spewart
 <Lakituthequick> 
Hariet
 <Meta_Knight> 
spewart
 <__2257> 
s
 <Baby_Luigi> 
(as much as I want to add Harriet)
 <smasher> 
1-0-7-0-1
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
gr8
 <smasher> 
spewart it is
 <Lord_Bowser> 
spewart
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add "Spewart" to F1? (y/n/a)
 <smasher> 
1-0-8-0-1
 <smasher> 
y
 <Baby_Luigi> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
e*
 <Shoey> 
a
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
y
 <smasher> 
4-0-1
 <turb> 
y
 <smasher> 
5-0-1
 <Lakituthequick> 
Spewart, with an a
 <Gamefreak75> 
y
 <smasher> 
spewaart
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
is it ??? I copy/pasted it
 <__2257> 
a
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
a
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
let me check again
 <turb> 
yeah it's spewart
 <Lakituthequick> 
Spewart is correct
 <turb> 
in the dialogue
 <smasher> 
6-0-3
 <Lakituthequick> 
https://www.mariowiki.com/Spewart
 <Lord_Bowser> 
im a bit confused as to why you highlighted it if it was correct
 <Gamefreak75> 
lol
 <Stargazing> 
a
 <smasher> 
6-0-4
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
whoops i had to afk suddenly
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but spewart is added
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
one more vote and i'll close the meeting
 <smasher> 
anything else?
 <smasher> 
oh lol
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add any Rabbid to F1? (y/n/a)
 <smasher> 
n
 <Gamefreak75> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
n
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if Y we'll pick something
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but I say n
 <Shoey> 
n
 <turb> 
n
 <smasher> 
1-5-0
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
n
 <smasher> 
1-6-0
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
gr8
 <smasher> 
the rabbids go free
 <Baby_Luigi> 
n
 <Meta_Knight> 
n
 <smasher> 
1-8-0
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so I'll go lob stuff on the forum
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and next meeting we'll finalize that all and continue with Fail Awards
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we did it
 
Anton{Politoed} bangs the gavel against 22's head