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 <turb> 
hi
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it's time
 
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 <Stargazing> 
i’m ready
 <Baby_Luigi> 
estoy aqui
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so this meeting is going to be about finishing up Community Awards
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
which I'm not expecting to take up the full time
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and then once that is done do some rambling about tournaments and prizes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and then maybe end early
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
a Thing To Do right now is that if you haven't voted in the C4 poll to do it right now https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=39849.0
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and you have until I feel like closing it before your opinion no longer counts
 <Meta_Knight> 
I voted
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but it'll be closed within this meeting
 <Baby_Luigi> 
I did too
 <turb> 
i voted
 <Lakituthequick> 
it currently neatly has a top 18 without cutting in the middle of a place
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we'll start back again with C11
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Best ‘Shroom Section Design (Mystery Images (LudwigVon), Ongoing Fan Projects (Yoshi876), Projects Seeking Contributors (Shokora), New Articles (Alex95), New Articles (LudwigVon), Monthly Report (Paper Yoshi), Forum Update (MrConcreteDonkey), Community Report (LudwigVon), The 'Shroom Report (Tucayo), DragonFreak's Review Quest (DragonFreak),
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Lord Bowser's Inside Story (Lord Bowser), Galactic Expedition (Meta Knight), Pokédex Power (Yoshi876), Dear Anton (Hypnotoad), Anniversary Announcements (Lakituthequick), Poll Committee Discussion (7th Poll Committee))
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
notes I have are:
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
"C11- Remove Mystery Images, Projects Seeking Contributors, Lord Bowser's Inside Story, remove Monthly report"
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
" Modify Ongoing Fan Projects to TPG, PC Discussion to 8th PC, Shroom Report to LudwigVon,"
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
" Add NIWA Spotlight"
 <Baby_Luigi> 
lol I have no idea what's going on in The Shroom so I'll just go with the flow
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
going back to the definitions of these, this award is set apart from the artwork one in that it's about how the section appears visually, including formatting and all that
 <Meta_Knight> 
I more then likely overlooked something when i initially made my notes
 <Meta_Knight> 
But I'm on mobile so for now it's okay with me
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if something was overlook then it's not ok because we'll have to get back to it anyways
 <Lord_Bowser> 
im here
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
blocky is there anything you would think need to be added or changed
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ed*
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
nah, not that i can think of
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
none of the other new sections really jump out as having special design, y'kno?
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
like interview for example, that's totally plain
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
so i'd be happy with just applying the mk changes
 <Stargazing> 
voting in the c4 poll gave me an error
 <Stargazing> 
oops
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i'll do that now then
 <Lord_Bowser> 
looks good to me too
 <Meta_Knight> 
Oh
 <Meta_Knight> 
Add where in the Marioverse is carmen sandiego
 <Meta_Knight> 
Thats pretty well formatted
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
oh, yeah, that'd work
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i didn't think of it at the time because it's not incredbly standout but it's basically the same as mystery images
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
so in retrospect it does work
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
there, got that all typed out
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so next is
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
C12 Favorite Written 'Shroom Section of the Past Year (DragonFreak's Review Quest (DragonFreak), Guess Who! (Andymii), The 'Shroom Report (Tucayo), Tip of the Month (FunkyK38), Anniversary Announcements (Lakituthequick), Obituaries (Yoshi876), Dear Anton (Anton), Half-Baked Reviews (Anton), Lord Bowser's Inside Story (Lord Bowser),
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Community Report (LudwigVon), Isaac Synergies (DragonFreak), Pokédex Power (Yoshi876), Galactic Expedition (Meta Knight), Let's Play Showcase (Superchao))
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm assuming this is a quick and easy "what was/wasn't in the last year" switching
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
"C12- Remove DF's Review Quest, Guess Who, Lord Bowser's Inside Story, LP Showcase"
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
" Modify 'Shroom Report to LudwigVon"
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
" Add Interviews, Travel Guide (Koops), Selling Out (Raregold), YoshiFlutterJump's Tips and Tricks, Shop Scout (Hooded Pitohui), G. TV (MsRetroGeek)"
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
Interview (Superchao)
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
specifically
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
and a name for YFJ too
 <smasher> 
I'm here
 <Lord_Bowser> 
add nabber's section
 <smasher> 
i don't have much to add to this though
 <mcd> 
if we're adding most other sections from fn it'd be good to add quizmelon's tv tomorrow as well
 <mcd> 
that's a pretty consistently good section
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
that'd make... 17
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
suddenly afk'd
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but i'm back
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm for adding nabber's reviews, too
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
oh wait
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
18 if we add nabber reviews and tv tomorrow
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
sooo we can do that
 <smasher> 
sounds good to me
 <Meta_Knight> 
Brb
 
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
are any of the staff SOTM winners missing from this or the art one
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
brb
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
meanwhile, let's go to C13
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Favorite 'Shroom Special Issue ( Issue L (50), Issue 64 (Nintendo 64 theme), Issue LXXV (Gamefreak75 theme), Issue LXXXVIII (Mario Kart 8 theme), Awards Issue XC (90), Issue 100, Holiday Issue 105, Issue 107 (Zeldámon theme), Issue 111 (Walkazo Tribute), Issue 123 (Wario))
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
"C13- Add 135??, Add Holiday Issue 129/Replace Holiday Issue 105"
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
135 hasn't come out yet but is going to be the Luigi special
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and will be the issue that the polls go up in
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i'm a bit _ on pre-empting it but is it going to kill anyone if we do
 <turb> 
i think weve preempted before
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i dont see the harm in it
 <Stargazing> 
i think we should
 <Stargazing> 
if it’s out by then then there’s no harm
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
well
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
issue 123 had the exact same thing
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
so i think it's perfectly fine
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
there's also
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
9) Issue 64 (Nintendo 64 theme) — 0 — 0.00% 9) Issue LXXXVIII (Mario Kart 8 theme) — 0 — 0.00%
 <Lakituthequick> 
i have no idea if "pre-empting" means adding or not adding it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
which I don't exactly intend on doing anything with
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
honestly
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
as the guy who did it
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'm okay with cutting issue 88
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
it wasn't a very top tier special issue
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
because of the fickleness of community awards and how easily the votes can polarize
 <mcd> 
wow issue 64 is underrated
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but I just wanted to point it out in case anyone cares
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Lakituthequick: it would mean to add it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
how do people feel about swapping the holiday issue
 <Lord_Bowser> 
im fine with it
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i think swapping the holiday issue is good
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
the holiday issues are kind of... interchangeable, imo? compard to the other special issues
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Stargazing> 
y
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Also, I'd like distinct themes
 <turb> 
i'd be fine with it
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
they certainly contain special content but none of them feel like they stand out as much as the main issues like 100 or 111 or 123
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Don't want two redundant ones
 <mcd> 
y i'd swap it
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
...come to think of it
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
why is awards issue XC still on here
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'm honestly surprised
 <mcd> 
i dont really have any strong feelings towards any of the holiday issues individually
 
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 <mcd> 
they're all good but i couldn't tell you which was the best
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'm not going to crusade for its removal, more just going "huh, didn't expect that"
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
and yeah ,what mcd said
 <Lakituthequick> 
picking the most recent one makes sense
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
kitty is disrupting me
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
sabotage
 <mcd> 
how do we know the kitty didnt type that
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
you don't
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
>:3
 <Lakituthequick> 
🤔
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
also
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
C14 'Shroom Person of the Year 2016-2017 (Yoshi876, Mr. Edo, Anton, FunkyK38, MrConcreteDonkey, Tucayo, Andymii, 2257, Meta Knight, Superchao, The Pyro Guy)
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it's now 2017-2018
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
"C14- Add LudwigVon, LTQ, Lord Bowser"
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
well andymii can be cut pretty easily i feel
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
for the fact that he basically retired at the time of the last polls
 <Baby_Luigi> 
He stopped being active, right?
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yeah
 <Meta_Knight> 
per perch
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
is the rest of everyone else on here prepared enough to have stuff written about them in the dossier
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Lord_Bowser> 
yeah
 <Meta_Knight> 
i imagine not much else changes except numbers are updated
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i'm content with this list
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
C15 Outstanding Community Achievement Award (Porplemontage, Super Mario Bros., 2257, Walkazo, Gamefreak75, Turboo, Crocodile Dippy, Anton, Superchao, Smasher, Yoshi876, Stooben, Tucayo, MrConcreteDonkey, Shokora)
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
"C15- Add LB, Remove Walkazo"
 <Lord_Bowser> 
w
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
idk about walkazo
 <Lord_Bowser> 
why me
 <Gabumon> 
leave her on
 <Meta_Knight> 
pc chairman and fun stuff director
 <Meta_Knight> 
i feel its valid
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
also how dated is this award going to be
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i.e., are we set on keeping smb, dippy, stooben
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'm okay with making it more modern times and not constantly focusing on the achievements of old
 <Shoey> 
i'd be ok with removing all 3
 <Baby_Luigi> 
Same here
 <turb> 
i forgot we had dippy on this award in the first place
 <Gamefreak75> 
im still on there for some reason so pretty dated
 <Baby_Luigi> 
if they come back, if ever, we can always add them back in
 <turb> 
I'd be fine keeping walkazo but the other 3 could be removed
 <Gabumon> 
I concur
 <Baby_Luigi> 
eh I'd personally remove Walkazo
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
lol i didn't even notice Gamefreak75 on that list because it was grayed out since he's in here and highlighted
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
gf if you want off I can just do that now
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i am neutral on walkazo
 <NEXandGBX> 
i'd probably be fine keeping walkazo on
 <Shoey> 
i'd probably vote to remove walkazo
 <Stargazing> 
i don’t think we should remove walkazo personally
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i'm just gonna say
 <Gabumon> 
I have a suggestion that is unrelated to the current discussion
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i'm keeping walkazo because at the very least it's in line with us changing to keep her on favorite artist
 <Gabumon> 
but it can wait
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
changing?
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if next year the vote to remove her is more overwhelming then we can get back to it
 <Baby_Luigi> 
sure then
 <Meta_Knight> 
my initial reason for having remove her in my notes is because i was unsure just how contemporary these awards were but im fine keeping her if everyone else wants it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok i made those changes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
are there any other suggestions
 <Gamefreak75> 
yeah im fine with being removed i havent done anything notable in years
 <Gabumon> 
yes
 <Gabumon> 
I would like to add GBAToad
 <Gabumon> 
by merit of almost killing himself hosting killing game
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
:bowser: :thumbup:
 <turb> 
good
 <Lord_Bowser> 
strongly per adding gba
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we've had Stooben on here by virtue of hosting mafias before, so
 <Shoey> 
i'd support gba
 <Stargazing> 
i second
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it's in line with what we've done
 <NEXandGBX> 
that seems good
 <Gamefreak75> 
per adding gba too
 <mcd> 
yeah add gba
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
anything else for C14 or C15? before we go back to C4
 <Gabumon> 
actually
 <Gabumon> 
killing game was a shroom event
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i dont really know if i deserve to be on here
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I have a minisoapbox to do before we move on, as well
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i dont think ive really done much
 <Gabumon> 
so on that grounds he should be added to shroom person of the year too
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
:thumbup:
 <turb> 
:thumbup:
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i am okay with gbatoad
 <__2257> 
dont worry lb
 <__2257> 
i wonder why im on these every year
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok, so for my minisoapbox
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
definitely not this year, but in the foreseeable future I can...foresee...C14 and C15 becoming merged
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
maybe it's my perception as I've been getting older in this community and things become commonplace, but it feels like a lot of the things are a bit redundant
 <NEXandGBX> 
the two do seeom pretty similar
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'd be down; the shroom-active people and other major community-heavy people are gradually overlapping
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it didn't feel that way when these were two separate ceremonies
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
back in like
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but now that they're one, _
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yeah
 <Meta_Knight> 
i feel it kinda pointless to have to make the distinction between the two if theyre mostly the same people on both
 <Lakituthequick> 
we juist added gba to both for the same thing so yeah
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so that's something to chew on between now and next year
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
fine by me
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and now
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
oh
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
the C4 poll is closed
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
should we listen to edo's thing before or after c4
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
he already said his thing, I think
 <Lakituthequick> 
there are now four presentations tied for 18th
 <Gabumon> 
what thing
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
oh
 <Lakituthequick> 
probably go for top 17
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
ohhhh
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i thought the suggestion was something unrelated to c15, i didn't realize it was just "add gbatoad"
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
or instead we could vote on what the 18th will be
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'd rather vote on the 18th
 <Gabumon> 
it was unrelated to the walkazo question
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
which is what we'll do once i get to it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so, C4
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
[s]in retrospect i should have nominated myself[/s]
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
https://pastebin.com/v9A7RuLw
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
here's the results
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i'll put it in a nice single line eventually, but
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
there's a tie for the 18th spot
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so we're all gonna vote on what takes it now
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so the options are:
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
1) 18. C6. Favorite 'Shroom Team - Hypnotoad
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
2) 18. F9. Worst Direction of Series - Fawfulthegreat64
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
3) 18. M15. Hardest Boss - Lord Bowser
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
4) 18. M29. Favorite Classic Game (N64/GBC and older) - Snack
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Select an award for the 18th slot in C4 Favorite 2017 Presentation (1/2/3/4/a)
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i vote m29, option 4
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
my heart is broken because I love Snack's but mine is on there and it's my favorite I've ever done, so
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
1
 <Lakituthequick> 
2
 <Stargazing> 
4
 <Baby_Luigi> 
2
 <Shoey> 
4
 <__2257> 
a
 <turb> 
god
 <mcd> 
i voted for all of these >;(
 <mcd> 
i dont know why i did the angry face
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
alternatively
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I can reopen the poll and we can go on a witch hunt for the 6 people who didn't vote at all
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and give this one more week
 <turb> 
id rather do that
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
ehhhh
 <NEXandGBX> 
hmm
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i don't trust people who already didn't vote to do more voting
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
like
 <turb> 
I keep wanting to vote 4 but I feel so bad not voting 1 because I did like that too
 <Gabumon> 
give me a few minutes
 <turb> 
is the poll still open
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
3 people voted within a 10 minute window after I posted the link during this meeting
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
maybe those 3 people could take a better look than 10 minutes
 <turb> 
i already voted a while ago but i could retract a vote
 <Lord_Bowser> 
uh actually
 <Lord_Bowser> 
can i have m15 not be a potential nominee
 <Stargazing> 
my vote didn’t go through when i tried
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i really kinda screwed it up
 <Stargazing> 
or at least it gave me an error
 <Lord_Bowser> 
and im not very proud of it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
well
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm gonna reopen the poll then
 <mcd> 
i think i'll vote for c6 (option 1)
 <mcd> 
oh
 <mcd> 
nvm
 
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
my vision of the future is that by next meeting we will be in the same spot
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but !
 <Lakituthequick> 
fwiw 2-2-0-3-1 if i counted correctly
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
at least we'll be much more solidly in the same spot
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
beyond that, all awards are complete
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and next meeting we'll begin our complete review of every decision we've made
 <Lord_Bowser> 
:clap:
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
where we painstakingly look at the grammar and whatever else, and go back to decisions that might not have been on solid ground
 <smasher> 
hi
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
meanwhile, shroom peeps can go ahead and start making the community awards dossier
 <smasher> 
sorry for missing
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
so what do we do for the rest of this meeting
 <smasher> 
everything
 <Lakituthequick> 
is this the part where we can make miscellaneous points on c
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
can i spend it telling you guys all about touhou
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we can do that now or during the review
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
maybe wait until the review because we TECHNICALLY didn't finish community awards yet
 <Lakituthequick> 
well i have a thing on c11 that i wanted to make when we were actually discussing it but then the topic swifted so i didn't
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
oh ok
 <Lakituthequick> 
i instead wrote it down
 <Lord_Bowser> 
id like to talk about kg after this
 <GBAToad> 
i slept
 <Lakituthequick> 
lemme paste it
 <GBAToad> 
what did i miss
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
gbatoad we put you on C14 and C15
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
enjoy
 <Lakituthequick> 
I personally don't agree with adding Carmen Sandiego to this
 <Lakituthequick> 
The tables are… there, and everything jumps when a hint or answer is expanded
 <GBAToad> 
oh,,,,
 <GBAToad> 
t-thank you
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
that's a valid comment, I just don't know what to say lol
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
what if we put carmen up to a proper y/n/a vote?
 <Lakituthequick> 
also inline images and stuff
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
that feels like it would settle it fairly
 <Lakituthequick> 
weird floating youtube video
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it would but if the vote is based on a shroom section I'd prefer if people had the time to properly check it out
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
ok
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
in that case, 1 sec
 <Lakituthequick> 
this month's: https://www.mariowiki.com/The_%27Shroom:Issue_133/Fun_Stuff#Where_in_the_Marioverse_is_Carmen_Sandiego.3F
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
https://www.mariowiki.com/The_%27Shroom:Issue_133/Fun_Stuff#Where_in_the_Marioverse_is_Carmen_Sandiego.3F
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
F
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
but yeah, then let's have everyone take a look at it and come back to this in like
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
5-15 minutes or so
 <GBAToad> 
man the mobile version of the wiki screws everything up in the shroom
 <GBAToad> 
sTEVE
 <Lakituthequick> 
yeah the shroom has absolutely zero stuff mobile-made
 <Lord_Bowser> 
just have desktop view
 <Lakituthequick> 
plus that, mobile is eh in heneral
 <Lakituthequick> 
*general
 <Baby_Luigi> 
i'm not surprised that everything in mobile is shit and mobile support in general is shit
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Stargazing: if the poll is still giving you trouble, you can just like....vote manually, I guess
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
for C4 that is
 <Baby_Luigi> 
hate writing articles in mariowiki only to find out that mobile view sucks
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
might be a bit of work copy/pasting, but it's better than no vote
 <Stargazing> 
i can’t actually copy-paste rn since i’m not home
 <Stargazing> 
by the time i go home i’ll probably try voting again
 <Stargazing> 
unless it’s far too late since you’ve set up the vote for the final result and i don’t want to interfere with that
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
voting is reopened and we're coming back to it in a week, so it's fair game
 <Stargazing> 
ah, alright
 <Stargazing> 
i’ll do that once i head off home then
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
anyways I think it's been enough time since there's not much variation in format from issue to issue with that section
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add "Where in the Marioverse is Carmen Sandiego? (FunkyK38)" to C11 Best ‘Shroom Section Design? (y/n/a)
 <GBAToad> 
a
 <Baby_Luigi> 
y
 <Lord_Bowser> 
y
 <Meta_Knight> 
y
 <Lakituthequick> 
n
 <Stargazing> 
a
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
n
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
n
 <smasher> 
a
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i took another look at it and i see why ltq brought it up
 <__2257> 
n
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
and i support his reasoning
 <turb> 
n
 <smasher> 
3-5-3
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I was on the fence with this and was feeling nitpicking about leaning towards N, but
 <GBAToad> 
ayyynannann
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I/we was/were nitpicky when it came to adding half-baked reviews
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so :shrug:
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i'm n
 <GBAToad> 
i were
 <GBAToad> 
i was
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
exactly
 <GBAToad> 
we was
 <GBAToad> 
WEE WOO
 <Lord_Bowser> 
i we
 <GBAToad> 
also
 <smasher> 
was were
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
by "we" I mean, 2017 AC
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but _
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i thought you meant the Collective of Antons
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
made up of various Antons from alternate universes
 <GBAToad> 
^
 <mcd> 
a
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i am legion
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
legion is so cute
 <NEXandGBX> 
whir whir whir
 <Gabumon> 
n
 <GBAToad> 
anyway switching to n
 <NEXandGBX> 
a
 <__2257> 
oh, but i wanted to be legion >:(
 <GBAToad> 
which legion anton
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
3-6-4
 <smasher> 
3-7-4
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'd say that settles it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
geth
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
oh
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and yeah, looks like the Ns have it
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
missed gba's switch
 <smasher> 
only i know how to count
 <Lakituthequick> 
do you know how to count sand
 <smasher> 
yes
 <Gabumon> 
sorry I got distracted looking at swords
 <__2257> 
hot?
 <Gabumon> 
maybe when theyre fresh out of the forge
 <Gabumon> 
usually theyre cold
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok I think that's it for now without getting into Full Review stuff
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
which means I can move to my next subject which is relatively brief
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
tournaments start up June 1st which is in a month
 <Lord_Bowser> 
can i talk about kg too
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
there's a few already being planned and the meetings after the Review will be about discussing them, and those tend to be sparse or as-needed, so there may not be many more full scheduled meetings
 <smasher> 
lets talk about murders
 <Gabumon> 
shut up, adachi
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
turb and I will coordinate with game hosts about stuff
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and the general idea is to just give us a write-up of what the OP of your game thread will be so we can check if the rules are legit
 <GBAToad> 
"throw that bitch into a tv" - adachi
 <Meta_Knight> 
pokemon is dead probably
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we plan on following the same pattern with tokens as last year with giving every host 30 tokens per person, with some allowance as requested, for them to split up however they choose
 <Lakituthequick> 
i gotta make a thread to poll mk8/mk8d battle/vs interest and stuff
 <GBAToad> 
yay money
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
meetings just have to end by the end of August, barring individual exceptions
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
speaking of money
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
give it to me
 <GBAToad> 
can we do Awards Gacha and i can summon a 5* anton
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=38860.0
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
here's last year's prize list
 <Stargazing> 
oh my god i know awards gacha is a semijoke but i would actually really like that
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
gift cards are very popular and can be funded by just giving me money for it to pool into a paypal account, or just offering to do it personally yourself should someone select your donated prize
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
https://www.paypal-gifts.com/us/giftcardlist
 <Gamefreak75> 
what am i supposed to do with all these 3* gamefreaks
 <Lakituthequick> 
i'm going to supply a few shop cards in euro's
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
humble bundle also has a ton of games on sale all the time that supply download codes that can be held onto https://www.humblebundle.com/
 <Lakituthequick> 
*eshop
 <smasher> 
might try donating a gift card or two
 <smasher> 
not sure if I can yet
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if we can keep the prize list sustainable we can avoid having to make drastic changes to it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
including possibilities such as providing prizes only to the winners/top 3 of each tournament
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we'll see how this year goes*
 <GBAToad> 
stooben tried that with shroom mafia and i think it was a good incentive
 <Lakituthequick> 
token counts from last year are going to be divided by ten again correct
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I agree that it's good incentive but anniversary tradition includes literally everyone getting a piece of the pie
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yes
 <GBAToad> 
the issue would be finding prizes that accomodate all players i suppose l
 <GBAToad> 
and yeah
 <GBAToad> 
fair distribution of wealth
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah that's a huge issue, which is why generic gift card prizes are excellent
 <GBAToad> 
the awards communist mario party lives
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
rather than be digging deep into every potential issue there could be, that was just a slight splattering of big ticket topics
 <GBAToad> 
splet
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if anyone has any questions about those they are more than welcome to ask me in whatever Tournament thread you want or to PM me or whatever
 <Lakituthequick> 
gba, curious
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
daily reminder from me to myself that I gotta do something with fanta's tournament she gave me before it becomes June
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
time is flying
 <Lakituthequick> 
are you gonna try the botw photo thing this year
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
game threads can be posted any time, they just can't start until June 1st
 <GBAToad> 
yes im waiting for anton to wave the magic wand that says we can start talking about tourney ideaa
 <GBAToad> 
*ideas
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and care should be given about overlapping with other scheduled tournaments and events
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
which turb and I will help schedule
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but yeah whoever wants to talk about games now can go and do that
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I know lb had kg stuff
 <GBAToad> 
👖
 <Lord_Bowser> 
honestly the main thing i had to say was really just "whos hosting"
 <Lakituthequick> 
i shall also try and keep dnd in mind this time for scheduling
 <GBAToad> 
well
 <Lakituthequick> 
if that's still a thing
 <turb> 
it probably will be
 <smasher> 
im still interested in cohosting kg
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i thiiink it's GBA and FWD?
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
oh
 <Lord_Bowser> 
if no one seems to want to host then i guess i can but
 <smasher> 
unless its decided
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it's really whoever wants to, I don't exactly have a say in it but can be a final thumb's up if people need it
 <GBAToad> 
i have to bring up some ideas
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
go on
 <Stargazing> 
i would try if i weren’t gone all of july
 <Stargazing> 
it would be unfair
 <GBAToad> 
i came up with the idea of a sequel to last years awards kg by basing it on luigis mansion 2
 <Lakituthequick> 
so multiple mansions
 <GBAToad> 
yep
 <GBAToad> 
smaller multiple games
 <GBAToad> 
allowing for multiple hosts
 <Lakituthequick> 
as in
 <GBAToad> 
and furthermore
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
german big brother where it goes on for a year and housemates live in separate locations and there's like 60 contestants
 <Lakituthequick> 
multiple games at the start
 <Lord_Bowser> 
oh oh i just remembered tb was interested in hosting too
 <Lakituthequick> 
and joining them later on?
 <GBAToad> 
fwd did this exact thing on minus world recently
 <GBAToad> 
where he started with two separate game threads
 <GBAToad> 
and later merged them survivor style
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
cramming this in here:
 <GBAToad> 
and it worked really well
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dGMmC0nvR9cA-DUZqwdsUCauayvXDI6-KMfA1JFKyR0/edit the schedule to defer to important dates to with
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i.e. "don't plan a tournament game for ceremony day"
 <GBAToad> 
but he stated hed rather have had someone to host the second game than do two games at once by himself
 <GBAToad> 
ill get the copypaste from discord of my proposal for this years kg
 <Lakituthequick> 
aww, i wanted to plan the mk8 finals in the blooper break :(
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
gba will this kg be very time consuming and intensive on the end of either the host(s) or players
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
asking because presentations and other tournaments
 <GBAToad> 
https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/BX5oy4iw
 <GBAToad> 
yeah thats the other thing i wanted to bring up
 <GBAToad> 
fwd testifies that kgs can usually be over in a matter of weeks but i know from experience it doesnt pan out that way
 <GBAToad> 
and the hosting is quite intensive even with these smaller games
 <GBAToad> 
but my proposition would be to start mid-june
 <Lord_Bowser> 
theyre only fast on -w because each phase is typically only 24 hours
 <Lord_Bowser> 
but not many people here can do stuff in that short a window
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
mid-june is good because it would bring attention to the polls as well
 <GBAToad> 
furthermore
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and kill off a bulk of the people before presentation work time starts
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
but then who will present??????
 <GBAToad> 
i need to do the write up for shroom kg proper and allocate tokens
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ghosts
 <GBAToad> 
ghosts win everytime baybee
 <__2257> 
>:(
 <GBAToad> 
so if this kg were to happen
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
my fetish is that you have one section meant for newcomers
 <GBAToad> 
then mafia would be delegated to a side event
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
mafia is happening?
 <GBAToad> 
and i wont be hosting one this year but would encourage someone to host a small one
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i'm not really anticipating a mafia game
 <GBAToad> 
yeah neither
 <GBAToad> 
kg is enough
 <Lakituthequick> 
sad
 <Stargazing> 
i think mafia is actually dead at this rate
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
people are free to host small ones if they want to
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
a large one would probably be too much and not become as active as necessary, though
 <Gabumon> 
so about this kg idea
 <GBAToad> 
remember when i redid the mafia board and no one used it :(
 <smasher> 
night 1 victim was mafia
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i wanted to use it!
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
but i never made time
 <GBAToad> 
same
 <GBAToad> 
maybe Soon
 <Stargazing> 
i joined mhg because i wanted to help revive the board
 <Stargazing> 
Nop
 <Gabumon> 
are you like, intending to be a host for this game, or are you offering it to whoever wants to host
 <Lakituthequick> 
i want to do a new mafia someday
 <Lakituthequick> 
maybe do some fancy discord stuff
 <NEXandGBX> 
i wish i was actually good at hosting mafia
 <GBAToad> 
thats where the third benevolent overseer i mentioned comes in, im happy to either host or lead the brigade of hosts
 <GBAToad> 
unis not very busy atm for me but
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
posts with the most :upyours: results in that person being lynched
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'd say "will we have enough players" but we'll have enough players
 <Lord_Bowser> 
ill host if there isnt enough other hosts but id rather not because i have my own tourney i wanted to try
 <Gabumon> 
if you're not too terrified of hosting another kg and you dont have any concrete other plans yet, I would be ready to offer myself as a co-host
 <GBAToad> 
i imagine we can run between 24-30 with 12-15 in each house
 <GBAToad> 
furthermore
 <GBAToad> 
we can make additional houses if needed
 <GBAToad> 
but yeah im happy to lead a team of new hosts and not actually host myself
 <Lakituthequick> 
do mind that there /will/ be players that slack off
 <GBAToad> 
in fact i could host treacherous and we could have potentially three other hosts for the two starting mansions, and the ghost mansion
 <GBAToad> 
so this is really flexible
 <GBAToad> 
i have a few idea for roles as well but not like
 <GBAToad> 
All The Ideas
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
you're free to lob up a sign-up thread asap
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
just send turb and I a copy first
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
other miscellaneous information:
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I intend on hosting an Art Contest again, pretty much the same format and timeframe as prior years
 <GBAToad> 
so i know fwd expressed interest in hosting one mansion so i take it smasher and edo would be our other two hosts?
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and GTR will happen as usual
 <smasher> 
please
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I think Ltq mentioned at one point that he'd like to host or help with it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i've got a quote somewhere
 <smasher> 
i want to watch the players suffer
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
"*From Ltq: “It may also be a thing to leverage the GtR counting to a script, so the results may even be available during the ceremony itself.”"
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
good idea ltq
 <Lakituthequick> 
might be in my ac application
 <Lakituthequick> 
yeah that
 <Gabumon> 
I'm not 100% on if it will actually be possible for me yet
 <Stargazing> 
btw: is someone picking up mk7 after i had to drop it or is it totally dead
 <mcd> 
base gtr results on how many people claim to have trifectas during the ceremony
 <Lakituthequick> 
mk7 online is a disaster
 <mcd> 
foolproof
 <Gabumon> 
I have like a hospital stay somewhere in may
 <Stargazing> 
because i know the past years have all been plagued with connection errors by everyone
 <GBAToad> 
yeah dont worry theres no commitment happening right now but im just seeing what the interest in
 <GBAToad> 
*is
 <Gabumon> 
and idk how long it will last
 <GBAToad> 
anyway i think thats kg sorted for now if we're all cool on that
 <Stargazing> 
i probably won’t pick it back up next year either because it’s just another mental breakdown waiting to happen
 <GBAToad> 
my other tourney is as ltq stated
 <GBAToad> 
the botw photo contest
 <Stargazing> 
but i’ll be happy doing another tourney next year
 <GBAToad> 
so ill be redoing that again and actually hosting it sometime this year and im super flexible on when it can start
 
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 <Lord_Bowser> 
my tourney was a splatoon 2 thing
 <Stargazing> 
maybe even this year if it’s contained in june or in august
 <Lakituthequick> 
also from my aside from mk8(d) is the (in)famous anniversaty scavenger at some point
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
how many stickers this year
 <Lakituthequick> 
*side
 <Stargazing> 
SHIT LTQ
 <Lakituthequick> 
i haven't mentioned whether or not there will be stickers
 <Stargazing> 
THE REDRAW
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
oh, also also also also ALSO
 <Stargazing> 
i’m so sorry dude
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
how many scavenger hunt items
 <Lakituthequick> 
also more than last year
 <Stargazing> 
i have it but i’m not at home
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
fuck yes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
one of the other ideas I had floating for ways to make tournaments sustainable is hold hosts responsible for some kind of donation
 <Lakituthequick> 
just because 35 people signed up to be in it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
since it's their tournaments that are generating the tokens
 
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 <GBAToad> 
isnt it funny how two of the non shroom staff roles we added in shroom kg became staff members
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
that's not to say "pay me $50 to spend your summer running a game" but
 <Lakituthequick> 
foreshadowing
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
a vague "hey if you want to host, consider donating"
 <GBAToad> 
https://i.imgur.com/gcV8FOl.jpg
 <Lakituthequick> 
i'll be adding eshop cards to the pool so there's that
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
gbatoad: i laughed like an idiot at that
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
you Predicted
 <Lakituthequick> 
also i really liked my role in kg
 <Lakituthequick> 
that edo won with it was a nice bonus too
 <Stargazing> 
i liked dying early in kg /s
 <smasher> 
i liked being evil
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i liked doing my best to kill
 <GBAToad> 
fwd made his game have a lore-based escape option for all players to good results so thatll be a thing i want to ensure happens this time
 <smasher> 
fun fact i almost triggered my forbidden action on day 9
 <GBAToad> 
au where turb and edo actually married each other and left together
 <Lakituthequick> 
define "lore-based escape option"
 <GBAToad> 
mystery hunt
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
pay-to-play
 <GBAToad> 
good one
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
give anton $100 to escape the house
 <Lakituthequick> 
kg with microstransactions when
 <GBAToad> 
buy a lightsaber for 2$
 <Stargazing> 
gba is it just gonna be a big gacha and you have to roll the key to escape
 <GBAToad> 
monocoins
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
will the key be hidden in some else's head
 <GBAToad> 
buy monocoins as an in-game currency
 <Lakituthequick> 
anniversary scavenger: sell your soul and upload your brain for 5 free items
 <mcd> 
kg lootboxes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i want to upload my brain
 <Lakituthequick> 
upload-your-brain joke courtesy of gbatoad
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
also is it safe to close this meeting early official and just keep having these idea conversations
 <mcd> 
they're just filled with paint
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yeah
 <GBAToad> 
yep bang that hammer anton
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
or are there any super hot-pressing things to bring up before the next 15 minutes end
 <GBAToad> 
i like super hot things
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
good idea
 <Lakituthequick> 
yeah i propose deleting all mario awards
 <Lakituthequick> 
(no)
 <mcd> 
y
 <Lord_Bowser> 
id like to cancel the ceremony entirely
 <mcd> 
marios had it too good for too long
 
Anton{Politoed} presses a hot poker into 22's side, inscribing lewd images onto his ribs
 <mcd> 
fail and community only
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
meeting adjourned