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<Anton{Politoed}> 
it's time
<Anton{Politoed}> 
welcome to another fun-filled evening
<Anton{Politoed}> 
there are some donuts on the side if anyone wants any
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
are they
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
arsenic donuts
<Raregold> 
Just as I was telling Pitohui I neede to eat
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I need people around for presentations still
<Raregold> 
Either way I am game
<Anton{Politoed}> 
arsenic will be the parting gift
<Anton{Politoed}> 
today's schedule is tidying up some forum threads, then starting with community awards
 
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<Anton{Politoed}> 
the only forum thread at the moment in progress is https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=40968.0
<Anton{Politoed}> 
M19 Favorite Villain
 
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<Anton{Politoed}> 
anything with 5 or more votes is now a nominee
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Favorite Villain (Bowser, Kamek, King K. Rool, Dimentio, Bowser Jr., King Boo, Count Bleck, Cackletta, Fawful, Wart, Sir Grodus, Shadow Queen, Lord Crump, Captain Syrup, Shroobs, Koopa Bros.)
<Anton{Politoed}> 
puts us at 16
<MK> 
Looks good to me
<Anton{Politoed}> 
are there any last second comments regarding this award
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
not from me
<Pitohui> 
I have nothing to add
<Rose> 
I mean, technically the Shroobs and Koopa Bros. are not a singular villain, if we think anybody is going to care
<Anton{Politoed}> 
we covered this last meeting
<Rose> 
Did we? Sorry, I was absent and never got a chance to catch up
<Rose> 
Don't mind me then
<Anton{Politoed}> 
groups that are more notable as a collective than individual parts are welcome nominees
<Anton{Politoed}> 
as it's a new award we'll see what the voters do with it
<turb> 
all ic an say is i voted for this poll and it looks good
<Rose> 
Yeah I'm good with these options if that was already discussed
<Anton{Politoed}> 
looking at the Full List, this means there's nothing more we can do for Mario and Fail, at least until new information comes out re: labo vr, new games, e3, etc.
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
We Did It :clap:
<MK> 
Mario Odyssey vr for fail /s
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I don't see which day nintendo will be in e3 yet
<turb> 
oh yeah did they release the odyssey vr
<turb> 
i think that came out a week or 2 ago and is playable without vr but it's already on relevant awards so it's ok
<Anton{Politoed}> 
the concern we had with it was just what to name it as a nominee
<Rose> 
Mario Kart Tour might end up in discussion at some point, especially since sign ups for betatests is happening
<Anton{Politoed}> 
"Nintendo Labo VR (SMO)" is what we have now
<Anton{Politoed}> 
June 16th is the cut-off as that's when polls go up
<Rose> 
Oh, then it won't be in that time lol
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I think in the past we had something that came out like 2 days after because bfd, but otherwise that's the deadline
<Anton{Politoed}> 
might've been a shroom issue, come to think of it
<Anton{Politoed}> 
issue 100
<Pitohui> 
According to the Wiki, "Super Mario Odyssey features compatibility with the Nintendo Labo's Toy-Con VR Goggles in the mode "Playing in VR", so maybe we should change it to "Playing in VR (SMO)," though I personally think what we have now suffices in getting the message across,.
<turb> 
yeah i guess there's no more definitive title than "nintendo labo vr/playing in vr"
<turb> 
people will get it anyway
<turb> 
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/J0bG59pTfj0Bc3GHbuu2n-PXxkI=/0x0:864x598/1200x800/filters:focal(363x230:501x368)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/63362399/mario.0.png
<turb> 
i honestly just wanted an excuse to post this because i really like this render
<Anton{Politoed}> 
me looking at the poll results early
<turb> 
same
<Rose> 
Me noticing the 2,257 votes in one of the polls last year (?)
<Lakituthequick> 
We could name it like we did with the Mario Kart 8 crossovers because it shows logos in game the same way
<Lakituthequick> 
Super Mario Odyssey × Nintendo Labo
<Anton{Politoed}> 
if they call it "Playing in VR" i'd want to call it that, but also reference labo somehow
<Anton{Politoed}> 
but _
<Rose> 
Playing in Labo VR
 
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<Anton{Politoed}> 
I think it's actually fine as it because the point it across well enough
<Anton{Politoed}> 
we'll see how we feel come complete review
<Rose> 
I agree
<turb> 
yeah i didnt fully intend to start a discussion on this
<Anton{Politoed}> 
and with remarkable timing with raregold leaving, it's time to start community awards
<turb> 
like imo it's fine as is unless it bugs someone
<Rose> 
🎉
<turb> 
during complete review
<turb> 
also fun
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
i have many things to say about community awards
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
at last i can say them
<Rose> 
No Perch you can't receive all of them
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
too late
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
i already did
<Anton{Politoed}> 
as a preface to doing Community Awards, I want to remind everyone of what I've stated a few times already in prior meetings and on the boards
 
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<Anton{Politoed}> 
that I intend on culling 5 awards from this ceremony, whether by merging redundancies, putting on cooldown awards that are weak but not something to fully cut, and
<Anton{Politoed}> 
fully cutting some
 
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<Raregold> 
Sorry bout that!
<turb> 
good
<Anton{Politoed}> 
<Anton{Politoed}> 
full list for reference
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
i have a complete set of five awards i'd like to bring up for cutting/merging
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
unless i'm jumping the gun
<Anton{Politoed}> 
we'll get to these decisions as we go through the gauntlet, but to just say what they are to anticipate it:
<Anton{Politoed}> 
C1 (possible cut), C2 and C3 (merge), C8 (cut??), C10 (cooldown), C13 (cooldown), C14 and C15 (merge)
<Anton{Politoed}> 
there's more than 5 here which is ok because we might not do all of these
<Anton{Politoed}> 
so anyways onto C1
<Anton{Politoed}> 
C1 Favorite 'Shroom Directing Staff (Sadaharu, Stooben, Tucayo, Super Mario Bros., Superchao, 2257, Mr. Edo, Turboo, Meta Knight)
<Anton{Politoed}> 
should we decide to keep it, the additions are fairly simple with just adding raregold and geeky
<Anton{Politoed}> 
but I've been feeling weird about this award for a few years now, but didn't feel it was time
<Anton{Politoed}> 
and instead of not feeling like it was time for another year, I'm now thinking it's time to retire this award
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
you had to allow me and mk to claim our rightful top two places first, clearly
<Anton{Politoed}> 
even with our dossier it's increasingly difficult to leverage directing staff from the past against contemporaries
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
anyhow i'm down for it, the sheer lengths of the terms we've had lately means that we're years removed from the majority of these people and their time as active directing staff
<Raregold> 
Personally I am indifferent for the most part to this one being cut or not. Geeky and I are still fairly new and the results might be similar to last year for the most part
<turb> 
i would cut it personally
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
let's be real how many people still active actually remember when stooben was director
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
or tucayo
<Pitohui> 
I think the reasoning I've heard is a reasonable basis to retire this one. It's not one I'd rush to cut, but I have no objections to cutting it.
<Rose> 
Yeah I'm also in favor of cutting
<turb> 
i really don't think anyone is going to be voting for the older nominees based off the dossier alone
<Lakituthequick> 
per
 
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<Anton{Politoed}> 
for clarity, the results aren't stagnant
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I don't want that to be a misconception in my reasoning for cutting it
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I just think the award itself is done
<turb> 
yeah like
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
it's an award that inherently has been reaching further and further into the past
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
against our general mindset of modernizing community
<Rose> 
Let's just hand off the director position every month so we have more fresh faces for reference
<turb> 
even with the results varying, it's definitely stuck in the past
<Raregold> 
Maybe it could be reworked in the future in some alternate form, but I think getting rid of it for now is okay
<Anton{Politoed}> 
should the vote pass I won't hard-cut it, and just earmark it to tally up the cut/merge decisions we make at the end of this
<Anton{Politoed}> 
as we'd have to juggle around award names and numbers anyways depending on all what happens
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Remove C1 Favorite 'Shroom Directing Staff? (y/n/a)
<turb> 
hard to describe how it feels done without the results also stagnating but _
<Anton{Politoed}> 
y
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
y
<Raregold> 
y
<Pitohui> 
y
<Rose> 
y
<turb> 
i feel like there's also overlap with some other shit too anyway
<Lakituthequick> 
y
<turb> 
y
<Anton{Politoed}> 
and yeah I'm open to a possible rework in the future
<MK> 
Y
<Anton{Politoed}> 
my ultimate goal is to end up knocking presentation numbers down some
 
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<Anton{Politoed}> 
I'll mark this one as a considered removal
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
yo geeky
<Anton{Politoed}> 
C2 Best 'Shroom Section Artwork (Game Corner (YKMR3000), Dear Anton (Hypnotoad), It's aMAZEing (Lakituthequick), Picross (Camwood777), Anton's Half-Baked Reviews (Hypnotoad), Travel Guide (Koops), Shop Scout (Hooded Pitohui), Selling Out (Raregold))
 
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<Anton{Politoed}> 
this one is one I'd like to merge with C3
<Anton{Politoed}> 
C3 Favorite Artist (Mr. Edo, Neptune, Toadbert101, Smg2daisy, Walkazo, Lakituthequick, Anton, The Pyro Guy, Niiue, MeritC, Uniju, Lord Bowser, Fawfulthegreat64, GBAToad, Turboo, Koops)
<Anton{Politoed}> 
the examples chosen for C3 often are the artwork from these shroom sections
<Anton{Politoed}> 
and is a source of redundancy we can clear up
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
i am a-okay with this
<Anton{Politoed}> 
the question is how to do it, whether by cutting one award cleanly, or making a hybrid of sorts
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
personally
<Raregold> 
Same here. The territories are obviously very close
<turb> 
i was thinking more of a hybrid
<Anton{Politoed}> 
but an award representation for artwork is something I absolutely want to keep here
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
i would cleanly cut C2, and integrate people from that into C3
<turb> 
but i don't have a strong opinion
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
broaden favorite artist to include people who exclusively create shroom artwork
<MK> 
Per perch
<turb> 
i think favorite artist might be a stronger and more stable award overall
<Lakituthequick> 
I have the same idea as perch
<turb> 
so it's a better base
<Rose> 
I dunno, I feel like these two reach two separate areas in the community, with community v. Shroom contributors, so I'd prefer to see one cut entirely rather than an awkward amalgamation
<Rose> 
I agree with Perch
<Raregold> 
I'm with turb on this one
<Pitohui> 
I feel more or less the same as Perch.
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
i don't think there's much difference between community and shroom contributors these days
 
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<Anton{Politoed}> 
if we choose to knock off C2, this would loosen up C11 Best Section Design for some wiggle room
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
hi smasher
<turb> 
like i'm not sure if c2 has even retained all its current nominees for this year
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
it hasn't
<turb> 
yeah best section design can get wiggle roomed
<smasher> 
hi
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
picross is out, i know
<Anton{Politoed}> 
and could incorporate more artwork into that instead of its current state of section formatting
<smasher> 
sorry im late
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
and yeah, use artistic works AND section formatting both for c11
<smasher> 
where are we
<Raregold> 
The 'Shroom has taken over the community. We are Perch's secret police
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
so basically split the actual contributors and the relevant sections
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
with the former going to c3 and the latter going to c11
<Rose> 
I disagree Perch, there are plenty of potential artists in the community that don't contribute to the 'Shroom. I agree with your concept, but I don't agree with that exact overlap
<Lakituthequick> 
smasher: we are merging c2 an c3
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
no, you got it backwards
<Lakituthequick> 
*and
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
i don't think the shroom contributors are an explicit, separate set of the community
<Geeky> 
Hi Perch. Sorry I'm late too. I agree per Rose
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
as opposed to just a subset of the community
 
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<Rose> 
Oh got it, my bad
<Geeky> 
Would there be write ins?
<Anton{Politoed}> 
are there any other ideas or solutions before I put this to a vote
<Anton{Politoed}> 
yes
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
well yeah
<Geeky> 
I'm just asking for confirmation but I'm good with this
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Alright, so:
<Lakituthequick> 
there's always write-ins except for things like c6 where there are no other possible options
<turb> 
yeah
<turb> 
stuff like major character in mario doesn't get writeins for the same reason
<Rose> 
Should've kept Director for a Draggadon write in
<Lakituthequick> 
(c6 is Favorite 'Shroom Team)
<Geeky> 
Oh okay thank you for the clarification
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: (1) Remove C2 and integrate its concept into C3, (2) merge the concepts of C2 and C3, (3) do not merge, (4) other? (1/2/3/4/a)
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
1
<Pitohui> 
1
<Rose> 
1
<__2257> 
1
<Lakituthequick> 
1
<Anton{Politoed}> 
typing this out I sorta realize how 2 is a half-ass idea that is a dud but
<Anton{Politoed}> 
_
<Anton{Politoed}> 
1
<Geeky> 
1
<Raregold> 
1
<smasher> 
a
<turb> 
1
<smasher> 
8-0-0-0-1
<smasher> 
i ruined it
<Lakituthequick> 
when a vote results almost looks like a phone number
<Anton{Politoed}> 
we'll go over the newish C3 eventually when we can focus more on it explicitly with this decision
<Rose> 
I appreciate C3 being Thanos colored now
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
doesn't that mean it can only have 9 nominees tho
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
otherwise it's not balanced
<Anton{Politoed}> 
C4 Favorite 2018 Awards Presentation
<Anton{Politoed}> 
is an award every year that all nominees are wiped and we generate new ones in a poll
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
skip and handle with our usual forum method
<smasher> 
have to go with the forum for this one
<Anton{Politoed}> 
<Anton{Politoed}> 
all presentations are easily accessible through here
<Lakituthequick> 
I have a bunch of 'awards i liked a lot' but haven't filtered out a top whatever yet
<Anton{Politoed}> 
no need to peruse now as there will be time later, but just reminding
<smasher> 
but reading is scary
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I'll make the thread after the meeting
<Rose> 
Are self nominations appropriate /s
<Anton{Politoed}> 
absolutely
<smasher> 
you're banned from being nominated entirely for asking
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
you're also banned from the ac
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
please leave rose
<smasher> 
(they're fine)
<Raregold> 
Bye Rose
<Rose> 
Damn foiled again
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
(yeah it's ok lol)
<Anton{Politoed}> 
C5 Wiki Contributor Award 2019
<Anton{Politoed}> 
wiki staff worked on this in their staff board
<Anton{Politoed}> 
i summon turb to deliver the results upon us
Anton{Politoed} does a summoning dance
<turb> 
oh god
<turb> 
ok
<turb> 
hodl on
<Rose> 
You've summoned my trap card
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<turb> 
2257, Alex95, Baby Luigi, BBQ Turtle, Doc von Schmeltwick, Glowsquid, L151, LuigiMaster123, Mario jc, Mister Wu, Bye Guy, TheFlameChomp, Time Turner, Toadette the Achiever, Wildgoosespeeder, LinkTheLefty, Results May Vary, EDShoot
<Anton{Politoed}> 
imagining a demon being summoned in a circle of candles and poofing in while busy doing something else and going "oh god, ok, hold on"
<turb> 
yeah that's a good mental image
<Anton{Politoed}> 
and like getting his reading glasses on or something
<turb> 
link the lefty, results may vary, and edshoot are all new nominees
<turb> 
demon frantically opening a new marioboards tab
<Rose> 
Haven't even heard of at least three of those people, shows my engagement to the Wiki
<Anton{Politoed}> 
going , "*ahem*", and reading his script for newly summons
<turb> 
also, Bye Guy is Super Radio under a different name
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
i read edshoot as edoshoot
<Anton{Politoed}> 
the reasons for these nominees will need to be provided at least for the dossier
<Rose> 
Edoshoot what
<Anton{Politoed}> 
whether you want to dump those now is up to you i guess but _
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
i don't know
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
we'll have to ask edo
<turb> 
there's been posts about their reasoning yeah
<turb> 
graciously provided by mario jc and flamechomp
<Anton{Politoed}> 
were there any that were tough calls or was it pretty much consensus
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
mario jc is a good guy
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
you should read my interview with him after the meeting
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
it was a good interview
<__2257> 
im not sure ive even edited the wiki in the past year
<Rose> 
A shilling that wasn't F-Zero related?? This wasn't meant to be in this timeline
<turb> 
<turb> 
it was pretty much consensus yeah
<turb> 
some others were brought up but we hit the 18 limit
<turb> 
the most debatable thing was removals and time turner was kept since he was still recently fairly active
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
can't shill when voting is closed
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
anyhow i'm fine with approving this list, assuming 22 doesn't object to being on it
<__2257> 
i mean i dont *object* exactly but like
<__2257> 
it seems pretty silly
<turb> 
no one brought up removing you
<turb> 
and i was just thinking, yeah, youre always around to help people with some shit and thats why we added you
<turb> 
so it seemed valid
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
can confirm 22 is always around to help me with some shit
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
thanks 22
<__2257> 
yourw welcome
<Anton{Politoed}> 
well I'm fine with the nominees so i guess just when the time is made, launch the reasons over to whoever for the dossier
<Anton{Politoed}> 
could probably lob them in the staff board somewhere
<smasher> 
i rarely edit the wiki so i can't really comment on this one
<turb> 
will do
<Anton{Politoed}> 
C6 Favorite 'Shroom Team (Fake News, Fun Stuff, Palette Swap, Pipe Plaza, Critic Corner, Strategy Wing)
<Anton{Politoed}> 
big decisions here
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
i have approximately 20 minutes worth of things to say on this
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
by whih i mean skip
<smasher> 
🤔
<Raregold> 
I propose we cut all the nominees
<Anton{Politoed}> 
C7 Favorite 'Shroom Core Staff (MrConcreteDonkey, Yoshi876, FunkyK38, Palkia47, GBAToad, Superchao, Mr. Edo, 2257, Andymii, Tucayo, Stooben, Turboo, Anton, Meta Knight, Lord Bowser, LudwigVon, The Pyro Guy, Lakituthequick)
<Anton{Politoed}> 
removals are mostly for prolonged inactivity as this can be a cramped award
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
gbatoad, palkia47, and andymii have all not been active staff members in multiple years
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
oh turb too i believe
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Stooben is in there too barring like 1 post he made somewhere to clarify a thing briefly like 4 months ago
<turb> 
i've only been around as a consultant
<turb> 
and css editor
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
yeah i'm fin ewith cutting him i just needed a second to go
<Anton{Politoed}> 
whether we want to consider that as a saving grace from the removal squad is up to everyone here
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
"wait 2016 was three years ago"
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
let's cut stoob
<Raregold> 
I mean I'd fine with cutting most of those yeah
<Pitohui> 
I had Perch's three and Stooben and Tucayo as possibilities, but Tucayo's been more recently active
<Anton{Politoed}> 
are there any disagreements on this
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
tucayo is semi-generally active as a consultant so i'm okay keeping him
<Rose> 
I'm content
<Anton{Politoed}> 
is tucky active in the shroom
<Raregold> 
I'd be iffy on Tucayo
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I haven't seen him
<Rose> 
He's made a couple of posts
<Geeky> 
I'm okay with keeping Tucky too
<Anton{Politoed}> 
alright so there's no disagreement on gbatoad, packy, and andy
<Anton{Politoed}> 
so I'm just gonna go ahead with that first
<Raregold> 
I'd personally like to keep him
<Geeky> 
Okay
<Anton{Politoed}> 
with those 3 cuts we're back to 15
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Remove Stooben from C7? (y/n/a)
<__2257> 
y
<Pitohui> 
y
<Geeky> 
a
<Rose> 
y
<Raregold> 
y
<Lakituthequick> 
y
<smasher> 
y
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
y
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
god 2016 was three years ago
<smasher> 
7-0-1
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
time needs to stop
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Remove Tucayo from C7? (y/n/a)
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
smasher this is your fault
<Rose> 
a
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
n
<__2257> 
a
<Pitohui> 
n
<Lakituthequick> 
a
<Geeky> 
n
<Raregold> 
n
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
give him one more year, imo
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
and we can cut him in 2020
<turb> 
a
<Raregold> 
Pitohui literally said that as you typed it Perch. are you two part of a hive mind?
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
no, we just Vibe
<smasher> 
a
<Raregold> 
Okay I was worried about alien invaders. I can spare him then
<Anton{Politoed}> 
are for new entries we have Hooded Pitohui and Roserade
<smasher> 
0-4-5
<Rose> 
👋
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I see no reason to not just auto-add
<turb> 
go for it
<Rose> 
Are directors not up for consideration for this award
<smasher> 
auto add them
<Raregold> 
Should Geeky and I be added to this list as well especially seeing as Director was cut?
<Rose> 
Yeah that was my thought
<smasher> 
was about to ask this yes
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
i think we should integrate director status into this award
<Anton{Politoed}> 
that would be a good idea yes
<Anton{Politoed}> 
what's our numbers at
<Raregold> 
Lemme check my notes
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
we cut 4
<Rose> 
That should be eighteen with Geeky and Rare
<Lakituthequick> 
four removals and four additions
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
we just added 2
<Anton{Politoed}> 
16
<Pitohui> 
Yeah, those were my only other notes for additions, as long as we made four cuts we can fit everyone
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
so yeah
<Anton{Politoed}> 
we can fit 2
<Anton{Politoed}> 
poifect
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
let's add geeky and raregold
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
no need to add anyone else due to the timespan since smb or otherwise was directing staff
<Anton{Politoed}> 
any other comments regarding C7?
<Rose> 
I say we cut Anton
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
good idea
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
remove anton y/y/y
<Raregold> 
y
<Geeky> 
a
<smasher> 
y
<Geeky> 
yay
<smasher> 
a is not a valid answer
<Geeky> 
Can it be a write in?
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
in the grim darkness of the sixth awards meeting there is only y
<smasher> 
i guess
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
but in seriousness, nothing more from me
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
let's continue
<Anton{Politoed}> 
C8 Favorite Retired 'Shroom Writer (Gamefreak75, Walkazo, Freakworld, Mr. Edo, Super Mario Bros., Stooben, Toadbert101, Baby Luigi, Crocodile Dippy, Time Turner, Paper_Yoshi, Andymii, Shokora, Lord Bowser, Roserade, PowerKamek, DragonFreak)
<turb> 
some of these nominees have big yikes energy
<Anton{Politoed}> 
this is an award I'm vaaaaaaaguely considering nuking, but
<turb> 
just get rid of freakworld 100%
<turb> 
regardless of what you do
<Anton{Politoed}> 
it's my weakest reasoning so unless other people are on the boat for it already, we can work at the nominees
<Uniju> 
get rid of freakworld
<Geeky> 
I agree per Turb
<smasher> 
freakworld :bugs:
<Rose> 
Are the considerations for this award who's retired in the last year
<Gamefreak75> 
per
<Anton{Politoed}> 
no, there's no set time
<Anton{Politoed}> 
just retired
<Pitohui> 
I had remove Freakword, maybe Rose if being FS Director counts but he's still not writing
<Raregold> 
I also have another thing to bring up. Rose is fs director though he is not actively writing per se
<Rose> 
Huh, well, that makes things hard
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm sure if the list is full and we need more nominees, it'll come up to a timeline
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
i'm okay with nuking this award due to the age of a lot of these nominees and the fact that it is probably the best cut available to trim it down by 5
<Anton{Politoed}> 
but we haven't had that issue yet
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
but that's just me
<Rose> 
Yeah cut me I hardly wrote enough to be considered anyway lmao
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
alos yeah freakworld being on there is high level yikes energy
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
big oof
<smasher> 
im indifferent to this being cut
<smasher> 
just
<Raregold> 
I think we can still get by on this one. We may need to do some heavy cutting though
<smasher> 
kill freakworld
<Anton{Politoed}> 
my concern was just questioning the continued relevance of this
<smasher> 
never let me see him again
<Anton{Politoed}> 
if it's still an award people want around
<Geeky> 
I'm indifferent to this being cut too and I agree with killing Freakworld
<Rose> 
I think it's a tricky one to consider without a set time slot for the nominees
<Raregold> 
Maybe we can set one now
<Anton{Politoed}> 
it hasn't been tricky so far
<turb> 
well, even without the nominees in mind I feel like it's kind of a weird award
<turb> 
i like the idea of honoring past contributions to the shroom for sure but it feels uhh
<turb> 
like too dated in some points
<turb> 
the time slots don't bug me but _
<turb> 
hard to describe again
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I like that angle
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I'd prefer to set a timeline for this to give this a tighter feel and definition, as I don't think it needs it otherwise
<turb> 
it's a good concept that probably needs to be scrubbed and tightened up yeah
<Rose> 
I'm just going to propose a rework to be something relating to the sections of the past two years, something with the nominations being like Picross (Camwood)
<Rose> 
That was Camwood earlier right
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
yeah
<Raregold> 
Also to note YMRK3000 Tucayo and 64 DD are all retirees in case we do want to honor any of them
<Anton{Politoed}> 
if we set it at 2 years we're going to lose a lot of our nominees either right now or next year
<Pitohui> 
I'd be fine tightening the definition on this one
<Lord_Bowser> 
could i be cut from favorite artist btw if only because i havent made like any art since probably 2017
<Anton{Politoed}> 
and potentially not even have enough for the award at all
<Anton{Politoed}> 
sure
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
don't worry anton
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
i'll forcibly retire some people :)
<Rose> 
Well it doesn't need to be two years
<Rose> 
It was just the concept
<Raregold> 
I mean this award will probably need to be cut eventually if we have this timeslot or whatever so it could cut itself one year and save us the trouble
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I think all we can really do right now is decide that we're going to do a time scale and then figure out the last section for all of these people
<Anton{Politoed}> 
which would require more digging than I care to delegate time for during the meeting
<Anton{Politoed}> 
so let's just
<turb> 
so forum shelving?
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add a set time for removing nominees from C8 Favorite Retired 'Shroom Writer, year tbd? (y/n/a)
<__2257> 
a
<Raregold> 
y
<Pitohui> 
y
<turb> 
y
<Lakituthequick> 
a
<Rose> 
y
<Rose> 
I gotta hop off, good luck with the rest of the meeting 👋
<Geeky> 
y
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm feeling this would be more of a flexible guideline than a rock solid rule, but I guess we'll see once we get the numbers in
<Geeky> 
Bye Rose
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
y
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I'll just make it easy and cut Freakworld without a vote right now
<turb> 
good
<smasher> 
y
<Geeky> 
Thank you
<smasher> 
and thank you god
<Lakituthequick> 
obvious one
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
so we're keeping this one for now, then?
<Anton{Politoed}> 
yes, and we'll just need the date of the final section for each of the nominees to see how aged this award is
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
ok
<Anton{Politoed}> 
and once we determine that, we'll go from there
<Anton{Politoed}> 
alright so
<Anton{Politoed}> 
C9 Favorite Veteran 'Shroom Writer (FunkyK38, MrConcreteDonkey, Yoshi876, Tucayo, Anton, Meta Knight, The Pyro Guy, YKMR3000, Shoey, LudwigVon, Alex95, Superchao, Quizmelon, Luigi 64DD)
<Anton{Politoed}> 
before we get to this one in-depth
<Anton{Politoed}> 
C10 Favorite New 'Shroom Writer (Stargazing, Parakoopa144, Doomhiker, Mariofan169, Chibiki Daisy)
<Anton{Politoed}> 
C10 does hit the minimum for new writers, and
<Anton{Politoed}> 
there's currently applications in that would fill this out more
<Anton{Politoed}> 
back when I made notes for this, this was not the case, and would've been an automatic cut
<Anton{Politoed}> 
that's no longer the thing, but I still want to address it
<Anton{Politoed}> 
how do people feel about setting C10 aside for this year, merging its nominees into C9
<turb> 
id be fine with it
<Anton{Politoed}> 
the thing is that it might not necessarily be a complete merge, and some peeps may be dropped
<turb> 
c10 always feels like it's struggled to find a hold in some way because like
<turb> 
it usually just hits the minimum
<Raregold> 
I mean that'd be okay. Would we call it "Favorite Writer of the Year" or something?
<turb> 
and even if it passes it this year it's kind of awkward
 
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<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
i'm sort of okay with it since we always have a low level of new writers but we should figure out a reasonable method to pick writers
<Anton{Politoed}> 
but even then a few of the nominees for C10 even if we do keep it would have like....1 or 2 sections under their belt come the time the polls go up
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
secton count, maybe?
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
*section
<Lakituthequick> 
merging into c9 as in the new ones from last year or
<Anton{Politoed}> 
what I mean by that is basically
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
as in all active writers get covered by one award
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
or as many as we can fit
<Anton{Politoed}> 
remove C10, but consider the new writers as potential nominees within C9
<Anton{Politoed}> 
if we make this into a Favorite (active) Writer award, that would set itself as a more substantial award we can juggle to one of the endcaps
<Anton{Politoed}> 
just an idle thought
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
that's a good thought
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
we do need a new c1
<Anton{Politoed}> 
but are there any more considerations before we go into a vote for this
<Lakituthequick> 
I wouldn't oppose that
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
not from me
<smasher> 
nope
<Pitohui> 
I don't have anything I can add that hasn't been said
<Anton{Politoed}> 
my only concern is having some kind of spotlight for fresh writers, but that can be addressed within the shroom should that be desired specifically
<Anton{Politoed}> 
alright, so
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Merge C10 Favorite New 'Shroom Writer into C9 Favorite Veteran 'Shroom Writer, to be given a new name? (y/n/a)
<__2257> 
a
<Raregold> 
y
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
y
<Lakituthequick> 
y
<Pitohui> 
y
<Geeky> 
a
<turb> 
y
<Anton{Politoed}> 
alright, so what should a conjoined active writer award be named
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Favorite 'Shroom Writer of the Year, is one
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
Favorite Current Writer
<Anton{Politoed}> 
current or active, sure
<turb> 
idk which one sounds better to most people but I'd pick between current or active yeah
<Pitohui> 
I like Favorite Current Writer but I don't feel strongly if people like Active better
<Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah I'm not feeling "of the Year" so much, sets too defined of a boundary for my care for this
<Lakituthequick> 
with or without the 'of the year' part
<Lakituthequick> 
i'd prefer without too
<Geeky> 
I also like Favorite Current Writer
<turb> 
yeah i don't think of the year needs to be on there
<smasher> 
retroactive y
<turb> 
like just "current" meaning around, active, still doing stuff for the paper
<turb> 
that's good enough
<Lakituthequick> 
aren't the awards yearly and thus 'of the year' is sorta the point
<Anton{Politoed}> 
would just Favorite 'Shroom Writer imply enough that they're active, with there being a Favorite Retired 'Shroom Writer
<Anton{Politoed}> 
or is it better to specify
<Anton{Politoed}> 
usually we err on the side of caution and specify
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
better to specify
<Geeky> 
I agree
<Pitohui> 
This is a case I'd err with specificity
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
als of the year implies it includes ANYONE in the past year
<Lakituthequick> 
one extra word doesn't hurt
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
including the inactive
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
so i would definitely say don't have it
<Anton{Politoed}> 
hrmmmmm
<Lakituthequick> 
as in 'of the year' and 'active' counter each other
<Lakituthequick> 
that makes sense
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I prefer Active
<Anton{Politoed}> 
as it's a direct antonym of Retired
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
active feles more to the point, yet
<turb> 
good idea
<Lakituthequick> 
per 'active'
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Favorite Current 'Shroom Writer, or Favorite Active 'Shroom Writer? (current/active/other/a)
<Raregold> 
current
<Lakituthequick> 
active
<turb> 
active
<Pitohui> 
current
<Geeky> 
current
<__2257> 
a
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
active
<Anton{Politoed}> 
active
<smasher> 
active
<smasher> 
3-5-0-1
<Anton{Politoed}> 
kind of a narrow decision but it's what we have right now, we can always readdress it later
<Anton{Politoed}> 
there's well above 18 potential nominees for this
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm not sure how I feel about doing our usual poll for this
<Anton{Politoed}> 
maybe we can quantify this by using SOTM results to narrow it down
<Anton{Politoed}> 
but I feel that would put newer writers at a disadvantage
<Anton{Politoed}> 
so maybe we should just do our usual poll gambit
<Anton{Politoed}> 
thoughts?
<turb> 
i'd be fine with the usual poll because i can't think of another way we'd do it
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
same
<turb> 
likw what, use sotm as a guideline for older writers and pick out new ones?
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
otherwise i feel it''ll be OH
<turb> 
we probably shouldn't cherrypick or just have a poll for newer writers when we could have a poll for all of them
<turb> 
but _
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
i just realized something
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
anton:
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
regarding star, do we just post her section in the awards board ahead of time so non-shroom staff people can have a basis on which to evaluate
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
since otherwise they will have 0 examples
<Anton{Politoed}> 
yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyeah
<Anton{Politoed}> 
we'd have to
<Anton{Politoed}> 
can't really do a "trust us"
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
it's either that or wait two weeks so
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I mean I'd also be fine with putting it on the lower end of consideration given that we will only have 1 article from her for this year
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
then again
<Anton{Politoed}> 
whether other people vote with that in mind is up to them
<Anton{Politoed}> 
so we'll see
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
13 of the 14 people currently in the committee
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
have access to the shroom board
<Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah that too
<Anton{Politoed}> 
but to be thorough we should include it
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
yeah
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
no sense singlign out the one person without access
<Raregold> 
Shroom has taken over poll and awards committee
<Anton{Politoed}> 
alright so
<Lakituthequick> 
looking at the list indeed only bbq turtle seems to not have access
<Lakituthequick> 
interesting
<Anton{Politoed}> 
C11 Best ‘Shroom Section Design (Ongoing Fan Projects (The Pyro Guy), New Articles (LudwigVon), Forum Update (MrConcreteDonkey), Community Report (LudwigVon), The 'Shroom Report (LudwigVon), DragonFreak's Review Quest (DragonFreak), Galactic Expedition (Meta Knight), Pokédex Power (Yoshi876), Dear Anton (Hypnotoad), Anniversary Announcements (Lakituthequick),
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Poll Committee Discussion (8th Poll Committee), NIWA Spotlight (Alex95), Anton’s Half-Baked Reviews (Anton))
<smasher> 
they're next
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
can i nominate my own section for this
<Anton{Politoed}> 
as per the decision earlier, this award can possible now include artwork into the Design aspect
<Anton{Politoed}> 
this may shift some nominees but I'm not really anticipating it
 
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<Anton{Politoed}> 
Forum Update DragonFreak's Review Quest, and Dear Anton are the nominees that have not had new entries in the last awards cycle
<Anton{Politoed}> 
the award has a safe 12 nominees including them, so do we feel it's necessary to remove them purely on the basis of time?
<turb> 
i'm not gonna push for it
<Anton{Politoed}> 
we will have new nominees coming in
<Anton{Politoed}> 
let me count
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
i don't think it's necessary to cut them at the moment
<Anton{Politoed}> 
5
<Anton{Politoed}> 
we'd need to remove something
<turb> 
if they get removed on the basis of anything it should be to make room for the c2 things
<Raregold> 
I mean I think it'd clear room as well as just make things kinda more neat overall
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
but if we need space, i want to cut them first
<Anton{Politoed}> 
out of fairness I think I'd want to just do it as a package deal and set into precedent further the age of the last section
<Pitohui> 
I'm personally leaning towards cutting them, but we can wait and see if we hit the cap first
<Anton{Politoed}> 
for clarity
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
so basically "cut them all together if necessary, otherwise leave them" sums up my opinion
<Pitohui> 
per Perch
<smasher> 
per perch
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Mach Speed Mayhem, Monthly Report, Meta Knight’s Dream Land Journal, Selling Out, Its aMAZEing
<turb> 
yeah that
<Gamefreak75> 
per perch
<Anton{Politoed}> 
are the new nominees to decide to add in
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
oh good anton beat me to nominating mine
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
thx anton
<Anton{Politoed}> 
alright so we'll come from the angle of adding nominees first, then doing a count
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm just gonna not waste time and do votes for them all individually
<Anton{Politoed}> 
so get your party hats on it's time to rapid vote
<turb> 
panic
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
hat: on
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add Mach Speed Mayhem (Superchao)? (y/n/a)
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
y
<Raregold> 
y
<Pitohui> 
y
<Geeky> 
y
<__2257> 
y
<Lakituthequick> 
n
<MK> 
Y
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add Monthly Report (LudwigVon)? (y/n/a)
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
Unfriend: Lakituthequick
<Raregold> 
y
<turb> 
y
<Lakituthequick> 
y
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
(jk)
<Pitohui> 
y
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
a
<Geeky> 
y
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add Meta Knight’s Dream Land Journal (Meta Knight)? (y/n/a)
<Raregold> 
y
<Geeky> 
y
<Pitohui> 
y
<__2257> 
y
<Lakituthequick> 
y
<turb> 
y
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add Selling Out (Raregold)? (y/n/a)
<turb> 
y
<Geeky> 
y
<MK> 
Y
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
y
<Pitohui> 
y
<Raregold> 
a
<__2257> 
y
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
and also y to dream land
<Lakituthequick> 
a
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add Its aMAZEing (Lakituthequick)? (y/n/a)
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
y
<Geeky> 
y
<Lakituthequick> 
a
<Pitohui> 
y
<Raregold> 
y
<MK> 
Y
<Anton{Politoed}> 
alright time to count to be sure
<Gamefreak75> 
y
<Anton{Politoed}> 
is anyone else getting 18
<Lakituthequick> 
yes
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
yep
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
you started with 13
<Anton{Politoed}> 
alright so we don't NEED to remove anything
<Anton{Politoed}> 
is there a desire to still do so regardless
<turb> 
i don't feel strongly about it
<Anton{Politoed}> 
this is a decision that will make a precedent for including or excluding sections from previous awards cycles
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
i am okay with removing them but it is not a hill i intend to die on
<Raregold> 
I'd like to remove them, but same as Perch
<Raregold> 
I'm not gonna fight for it
<Lakituthequick> 
^
<turb> 
i'm fine with just keeping them if they're still considered a hallmark of good design
 
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<turb> 
the designs did not degrade over time
<Meta_Knight> 
i am indifferent either way but feel that if we were to have gotten over the limit that sections from previous awards cycles would be first on the chopping block
<Meta_Knight> 
as it is now im okay with it
<turb> 
if we want this award to be focused on modern sections alone, i feel like we should make it more obvious
<Meta_Knight> 
im also okay removing them
<turb> 
but yeah, I'm fine with having them first on the block for newer sections getting added at least
<smasher> 
im here for the rest of the meeting now
<turb> 
but i don't feel that they need to be cut at the moment
<Anton{Politoed}> 
it's more of a question of do we actively want to remove them
<Anton{Politoed}> 
if the feeling is more "meh, sure, don't care either way" then it's a no
<Anton{Politoed}> 
which is the vibe I'm getting so I'm not feeling pursuing it further
<Raregold> 
Fair enough
<Anton{Politoed}> 
almost 15 minutes left
<Anton{Politoed}> 
can we do it
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I believe
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
we can
<turb> 
ill try
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
the next two should be kind of easy for wildly differnet reasons anyway
<Anton{Politoed}> 
C12 Favorite Written 'Shroom Section of the Past Year
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
okay, so i have a general proposal regarding C12 and how it's been handled in the past vs. how we should handle it
<Anton{Politoed}> 
the nominees are potentially the same for the most part, but this is an award we reset each year
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
in the past, the changes were basically "add new nominees as people propose them" and drop no-longer-relevant ones, with some sections having been written for years and never even brought up for consideration
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
i'd like to propose that insteasd we completely dump the current nominee list and treat this the same as the presentation award/writer award
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
make a big poll with every section from the past year and vote until we get a slate of 18 nominees
<Anton{Politoed}> 
implying a forum thread and poll?
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
yeah
<Anton{Politoed}> 
sounds fine to me
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
also allows for cases where a section's quality may have decreased despite it being still actively written
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
not that i can actually THINK of any examples but you never know
<turb> 
the poll is most fair i think
<Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah, I like giving us the active shot at assessing that though
<Anton{Politoed}> 
so that's good
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
there's approximately 40 sections eligble, so i don't know if we'd want to skip right to a 40-option poll
<Pitohui> 
I spoke with Perch about it previously and I'm in support of a poll for this one
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
or do the nominee phase first
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
i'm fine either way as long as we're starting from zero
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I'd probably compile everything i can and then leave it up for a day or two to see if anyone can find a mistake or one that was accidentally excluded, then put the poll up
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
sounds good
<Anton{Politoed}> 
may need assistance with that
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
i put together a list a while back
<Anton{Politoed}> 
such as access to every team'
<Anton{Politoed}> 
s track record or if there's already a list
<Anton{Politoed}> 
gr8
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
you don't need track records, actually
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
section history covers it effectively enough
<Anton{Politoed}> 
gr8
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
<Lakituthequick> 
SMF doing what Crowdsignal doesn't
<Lakituthequick> 
More than 18 options
<Lakituthequick> 
40? no problem
<turb> 
host polls on the forums
<Anton{Politoed}> 
:weary:
<Anton{Politoed}> 
if only we could draw the numbers and activity to them as easily
<Anton{Politoed}> 
google forms might be able to do it, too
<Anton{Politoed}> 
but that generates an extra click to accomplish it
<Anton{Politoed}> 
and each new click loses significant interest
<turb> 
yeah honestly
<turb> 
people like just being able to vote on the main page and go
<Anton{Politoed}> 
C13 Favorite 'Shroom Special Issue (Issue L (50), Issue 64 (Nintendo 64 theme), Issue LXXV (Gamefreak75 theme), Issue LXXXVIII (Mario Kart 8 theme), Awards Issue XC (90), Issue 100, Issue 107 (Zeldámon theme), Issue 111 (Walkazo Tribute), Issue 123 (Wario), Issue 135 (Luigi), Holiday Issue 129)
<Anton{Politoed}> 
this is one that's up for a cooldown
<Anton{Politoed}> 
not necessarily a solid cut, but
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
the only new special issue would be holiday issue 141
<turb> 
i think it could use a year to cool down at least
<Anton{Politoed}> 
"hey it's stagnant and nothing will change that this year so we can leave it off for now"
<turb> 
there's really not anything else to add at poll time this year
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
issue 135 did not draw any interest
<Raregold> 
I say we push it off for a year and add 150 with 141 next year
<turb> 
so yeah
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
holiday issues NEVER get strong votes
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
and next year we could potentially add 159 as well if that ends up special
<Pitohui> 
It's a solid candidate for a cooldown, since we can toss 150 into next year
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
plus 150, yeah
<Lakituthequick> 
you can actually embed google forms so an extra click wouldn't be introduced
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
so, cut for this year
<Anton{Politoed}> 
we could potentially even put this into a rotation with another award that may only provide exciting results every few years rather than annually
<Anton{Politoed}> 
but this year I'm up for removing it because I'm gay for sets of 5s and 10s
<smasher> 
im ok with that
<Anton{Politoed}> 
so just to be sure
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
i'm pretty sure we're all gay for sets of 5s and 10s here
<smasher> 
you're gay for a lot of things
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Set C13 Favorite 'Shroom Special Issue aside for the year? (y/n/a)
<turb> 
y
<Pitohui> 
y
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
y
<__2257> 
y
<Lakituthequick> 
a
<Raregold> 
y
<smasher> 
y
<Geeky> 
y
<Meta_Knight> 
y
<smasher> 
7-0-1
<Anton{Politoed}> 
gr8
<Anton{Politoed}> 
and now for the pièce de résistance
<Anton{Politoed}> 
C14 'Shroom Person of the Year 2018-2019
<Anton{Politoed}> 
C15 Outstanding Community Achievement Award
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I feel these two have been redundant for the last several years and it's time to just finally merge them
<Anton{Politoed}> 
their dual existence is a remnant of these being two separate ceremonies, and I don't feel it is necessary anymore
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
i'm down
<turb> 
I agree
<Raregold> 
y
<Geeky> 
I agree as well
<Lakituthequick> 
yup
<Pitohui> 
They've drifted closer and closer over time - it's time to merge them
<Anton{Politoed}> 
the merging of the nominee lists would be too large for a single one, so there would be some pruning
<Anton{Politoed}> 
but for the most part there is overlap
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
over half on the current C15 are also on the current C14
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
which says a lot
<Anton{Politoed}> 
so,
<smasher> 
agreed its time to merge
<Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Merge C14 and C15, name tbd? (y/n/a)
<Raregold> 
y
<Anton{Politoed}> 
y
<Pitohui> 
y
<turb> 
y
<smasher> 
y
<Lakituthequick> 
y
<Geeky> 
y
<__2257> 
y
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
y
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I will make a thread for this as well to hash out the nominees
<Meta_Knight> 
y
<Anton{Politoed}> 
looking like 5 threads or so
<Anton{Politoed}> 
rather than taking an hour to write them all out tonight, I'll just get it done when I get back from work tomorrow
<smasher> 
10-0-0
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
sounds good
<Anton{Politoed}> 
le 6am-2pm shift
<Raregold> 
Since we're done I am out. I will see you all next week
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
and check it
 
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<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
we did the entire community awards in one meeting
<smasher> 
many threads
<Anton{Politoed}> 
next meeting we will go over these threads, hopefully completing all of them
<Anton{Politoed}> 
beyond that I'm really not sure what else there is to cover
<Anton{Politoed}> 
tournaments? we need to see how many we even have and what the interest is like
<Meta_Knight> 
im still open to hosting a smash ultimate one
<Anton{Politoed}> 
schedule them, but that's something turb and I can do ezpz
<turb> 
ye
<turb> 
minecraft games is happening
<turb> 
don't know when
<turb> 
but it is
<turb> 
so look forward to that
<Lakituthequick> 
mk8d eventually
<Anton{Politoed}> 
community awards dossier will need to be done at the very least a week before polls go up
<Anton{Politoed}> 
that being June 16th, so June 9th
<Pitohui> 
Oh, yeah, we (Rose, Geeky, me) did see your PM response Anton and we're discussing it - didn't want you to think we were ignoring you
<Anton{Politoed}> 
got a month for that
<Anton{Politoed}> 
:pgp::thumbup:
<Anton{Politoed}> 
complete review is something we'll have to go over, but I wouldn't want to jump right into that with the extra time next meeting
<Anton{Politoed}> 
may schedule that one a couple weeks from now
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
oh yeah
<Anton{Politoed}> 
and E3 is a couple days before polls go up
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
it might be a bit over, but i have a very simple suggestion for re-ordering the new community awards
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
-move writer award to c1 as we discussed
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
-re-number everything else approiately
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
simple enough
<Anton{Politoed}> 
it'll be our chance to organize things neatly
<Anton{Politoed}> 
so yeah, next meeting will go as scheduled, but ones further on out we'll play by ear
<Anton{Politoed}> 
I'll make updates for that as information becomes more clear
<Anton{Politoed}> 
awards 2020 starts meetings May 15th
<Anton{Politoed}> 
that's it, good night everyone
<Anton{Politoed}> 
:clap:
<Honoka_Chaosaka> 
night
<Geeky> 
good knight