Log: awards19meeting8

awards19meeting8

[26 May 2019, 02:00:21] <Anton{Politoed}>

it's time

[26 May 2019, 02:00:25] <Anton{Politoed}>

ready or not here it comes

[26 May 2019, 02:00:31] <Anton{Politoed}>

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u85_zCFwl6rhTGV-8dkCq0ggKKa34eXHgMt-iyqMcVI/edit

[26 May 2019, 02:00:33] <turb>

fear

[26 May 2019, 02:00:47] <Anton{Politoed}>

for ease, please follow along in the Full List as we go through the Complete Review

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[26 May 2019, 02:01:10] <Anton{Politoed}>

I have some notes in my head of some things that are in question but afaik we covered a lot in meetings already

[26 May 2019, 02:01:13] <Anton{Politoed}>

regardless, here we go

[26 May 2019, 02:01:33] <Anton{Politoed}>

M1 Best Sound Design (Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Super Mario 64, Super Mario World, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, Super Paper Mario, Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest, Super Mario 3D World, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze,

[26 May 2019, 02:01:33] <Anton{Politoed}>

Mario Kart 8/Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Mario & Luigi: Dream Team, Paper Mario: Color Splash, Super Mario Odyssey, Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle)

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[26 May 2019, 02:01:54] <Anton{Politoed}>

as we start, I urge speed, but not rushing

[26 May 2019, 02:02:15] <turb>

theres nothing we wanted to change here right

[26 May 2019, 02:02:49] <Anton{Politoed}>

not that I'm aware of

[26 May 2019, 02:03:02] <Anton{Politoed}>

M2 Favorite Mario Kart Game (Super Mario Kart, Mario Kart 64, Mario Kart: Super Circuit, Mario Kart: Double Dash!!, Mario Kart DS, Mario Kart Wii, Mario Kart 7, Mario Kart 8/Mario Kart 8 Deluxe)

[26 May 2019, 02:03:10] <Anton{Politoed}>

is there any word on when Mario Kart Tour will be out

[26 May 2019, 02:03:15] <Anton{Politoed}>

the closed beta testing ends June 4th

[26 May 2019, 02:03:15] <Lakituthequick>

"summer"

[26 May 2019, 02:03:33] <turb>

have they said that they're going to release it asap after the closed beta

[26 May 2019, 02:03:38] <Anton{Politoed}>

worst case it comes out as the polls are going up and I just shove it in

[26 May 2019, 02:03:49] <Honoka_Chaosaka>

[26 May 2019, 02:03:59] <Honoka_Chaosaka>

i'm going to be very vaguely here as i warned of so

[26 May 2019, 02:04:00] <turb>

good idea

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[26 May 2019, 02:04:11] <Honoka_Chaosaka>

ping me if you really need me and i'll try to reply as i check in

[26 May 2019, 02:04:12] <turb>

i don't want to risk it based on nintendo having a vague date

[26 May 2019, 02:04:20] <Meta_Knight>

Risk what

[26 May 2019, 02:04:31] <Anton{Politoed}>

M3 Favorite Mario Platformer (Super Mario 64/Super Mario 64 DS, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Super Mario Bros., Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario World, New Super Mario Bros., New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Super Mario Sunshine, Super Mario 3D Land, New Super Mario Bros. U/New Super Luigi U/New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe, Super Mario 3D World,

[26 May 2019, 02:04:32] <Anton{Politoed}>

Super Mario Run, Super Mario Odyssey, Super Mario Bros. 2 (USA))

[26 May 2019, 02:04:43] <turb>

adding mk tour when it's not going to be out in time for the poll

[26 May 2019, 02:04:44] <turb>

[26 May 2019, 02:04:49] <Lakituthequick>

Super Mario Bros. 2 (USA): Just called "Super Mario Bros. 2"? Super Mario USA in Japan

[26 May 2019, 02:04:55] <turb>

since mario maker isn't eligible for this we don't heva nything besides fixes right

[26 May 2019, 02:05:01] <Meta_Knight>

Oh yeah I wouldn't bother with that

[26 May 2019, 02:05:32] <Gabumon>

I think the USA is an identifier to prevent confusion

[26 May 2019, 02:05:43] <Anton{Politoed}>

didn't we add the (USA) part just as clarification for the peeps who insist on using the japanese naming

[26 May 2019, 02:05:44] <turb>

yeah

[26 May 2019, 02:05:50] <turb>

I'd keep the USA part just for that

[26 May 2019, 02:05:53] <Meta_Knight>

I think what we have for Mario 2 is okay, it makes it clearer for what it is

[26 May 2019, 02:06:12] <Lakituthequick>

👍

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[26 May 2019, 02:06:17] <turb>

it benefits the clarity of the nominee without being overly wordy

[26 May 2019, 02:06:21] <BBQ_Turtle>

I think it's worth keeping the clarification.

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[26 May 2019, 02:06:44] <Anton{Politoed}>

M4 Favorite Mario Kart Course (Bowser's Castle (N64), Rainbow Road (3DS), Wario Colosseum, Waluigi Pinball, Airship Fortress, Mushroom Gorge, Coconut Mall, Maple Treeway, Electrodrome, N64 Rainbow Road (Wii U), Mount Wario, Mute City, Animal Crossing, Baby Park, Big Blue, Koopa Cape, Neo Bowser City)

[26 May 2019, 02:06:53] <Anton{Politoed}>

just fixed the New -> Neo

[26 May 2019, 02:07:25] <turb>

kart tour looks like entirely retro tracks

[26 May 2019, 02:07:27] <turb>

at least the closed beta

[26 May 2019, 02:07:40] <Lakituthequick>

exclusively MK7 even

[26 May 2019, 02:08:05] <Anton{Politoed}>

weird

[26 May 2019, 02:08:07] <Anton{Politoed}>

just play mk7

[26 May 2019, 02:08:11] <Anton{Politoed}>

it's already on a mobile device

[26 May 2019, 02:08:31] <Anton{Politoed}>

M5 Favorite DK Character (Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong, Lanky Kong, Tiny Kong, Chunky Kong, Funky Kong, Dixie Kong, Cranky Kong, King K. Rool, Rambi the Rhino, Enguarde the Swordfish, Squawks the Parrot, Candy Kong, Kremlings)

[26 May 2019, 02:08:51] <Lakituthequick>

no notes for me

[26 May 2019, 02:09:06] <Anton{Politoed}>

M6 Favorite Wario Character (Mona, Jimmy T., Ashley & Red, Dribble & Spitz, Orbulon, Dr. Crygor, Kat & Ana, Young Cricket & Master Mantis, Captain Syrup, Rudy, Shake King, Princess Shokora, Wario, Lulu, 5-Volt, 9-Volt, 18-Volt, Count Cannoli)

[26 May 2019, 02:09:55] <Gabumon>

nop

[26 May 2019, 02:09:58] <Anton{Politoed}>

M7 M7 Favorite Yoshi Character (Yoshis, Kamek, Baby Mario, Baby Luigi, Baby Bowser, Stork, Poochy, Spirit Who Loves Surprises, Burt the Bashful, Naval Piranha, Raphael the Raven, Pak E. Derm)

[26 May 2019, 02:10:27] <turb>

seems fine to me

[26 May 2019, 02:10:31] <Lakituthequick>

skip

[26 May 2019, 02:10:56] <Anton{Politoed}>

M8 Favorite Art Style (Retro style sprites, Yoshi's Island style, Donkey Kong Country style, Main series 3D style, Paper Mario style, Mario & Luigi style, Wario Land: Shake It! style, Super Mario RPG style, Super Mario Strikers style, WarioWare style, 2D promotional artwork style, Super Mario-Kun style, Handcrafted Yoshi style, Kinopio-kun monthly calendar

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[26 May 2019, 02:10:59] <Anton{Politoed}>

wallpaper styles)

[26 May 2019, 02:11:00] <Honoka_Chaosaka>

nothing here

[26 May 2019, 02:11:31] <Anton{Politoed}>

M9 Favorite Add-on Content (The Legend of Zelda × Mario Kart 8, Animal Crossing × Mario Kart 8, Mercedes-Benz × Mario Kart 8, New Super Luigi U, Peach's Castle stage (SSB4), Super Mario Maker stage (SSB4), Super Mario Mash-Up Pack (Minecraft), Luigi’s Balloon World (SMO), Yoshi's Island Zone (Sonic Lost World), e-Reader Levels (SMA4:SMB3), Pixel Pack (M+RKB),

[26 May 2019, 02:11:32] <Anton{Politoed}>

Season Pass (M+RKB), Special Episode (CT:TT), Nintendo Labo VR (SMO), Piranha Plant (SSBU))

[26 May 2019, 02:11:32] <turb>

we already covered all the stuff for this award in meetings right

[26 May 2019, 02:11:33] <turb>

[26 May 2019, 02:11:39] <Anton{Politoed}>

yeah

[26 May 2019, 02:11:41] <Lakituthequick>

Luigi's Balloon World (SMO): curly apostrophe

[26 May 2019, 02:11:51] <Geeky>

looks good to me

[26 May 2019, 02:11:53] <turb>

uhh there's nothing new dlc-wise right

[26 May 2019, 02:12:05] <turb>

i could've sworn some new shit was coming out but i might be thinking of the vr and that's already out

[26 May 2019, 02:13:03] <Anton{Politoed}>

why are the apostrophes different when I typed them all in with the same button in the same place

[26 May 2019, 02:13:04] <Anton{Politoed}>

anger

[26 May 2019, 02:13:14] <turb>

sounds like google docs

[26 May 2019, 02:13:21] <Lakituthequick>

Google Docs probably changed them

[26 May 2019, 02:13:30] <Lakituthequick>

I always turn that off everywhere

[26 May 2019, 02:13:31] <turb>

i can't find anything on the dlc thing so unless someone else wants to zoom in on that i think this award is fine

[26 May 2019, 02:13:48] <turb>

i'm guessing ltq would've already honed in on it

[26 May 2019, 02:14:15] <Lakituthequick>

don't think I've noticed any new dlc no

[26 May 2019, 02:14:37] <Anton{Politoed}>

they should all be the same now

[26 May 2019, 02:14:40] <Anton{Politoed}>

thanks Replace All

[26 May 2019, 02:14:47] <turb>

mario maker 2 coming out like 2 weeks after polls is my anti fetish

[26 May 2019, 02:14:59] <Lakituthequick>

I have it in my notes a few times, might mention it again sometime

[26 May 2019, 02:15:17] <Anton{Politoed}>

M10 Favorite Lyrical Song (Ashley's Song (WarioWare: Touched!), Break Free (Lead the Way) (Super Mario Odyssey), DK Rap (Donkey Kong 64), Do the Mario (The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!), Jump Up, Super Star! (Super Mario Odyssey), Karaoke (Medamayaki) (Wario Land 4), The Mario Drawing Song (Flipnote Studio), Mona Pizza's Song (WarioWare: Twisted!),

[26 May 2019, 02:15:19] <Anton{Politoed}>

Phantom of the Bwahpera (Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle), Eddie, Let Me Go Back To My Home (Donkey Kong Country cartoon), Pirate's Scorn (Donkey Kong Country cartoon), I'm Leo Luster (Donkey Kong Country cartoon), Intro (Super Mario World cartoon), Intro (Donkey Kong Country cartoon), Body Rock (WarioWare: D.I.Y.),

[26 May 2019, 02:15:27] <Anton{Politoed}>

Ignorance is Bliss (White Knuckle Scorin'), Tomorrow Hill (WarioWare: Smooth Moves))

[26 May 2019, 02:15:31] <Lakituthequick>

Ashley's Song => Ashley's Theme

[26 May 2019, 02:15:31] <Lakituthequick>

Consider others with "Song" suffix for "Theme" to match

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[26 May 2019, 02:16:08] <Smasher>

sorry im late

[26 May 2019, 02:16:24] <Anton{Politoed}>

https://www.mariowiki.com/Ashley%27s_Theme

[26 May 2019, 02:16:27] <Anton{Politoed}>

why's it different

[26 May 2019, 02:16:30] <Anton{Politoed}>

fuck you smash

[26 May 2019, 02:16:40] <Smasher>

thanks

[26 May 2019, 02:16:43] <Anton{Politoed}>

it's primarily "theme" so that's what I'm gonna make it

[26 May 2019, 02:17:10] <Anton{Politoed}>

the operative word in there is "Ashley's" so that change shouldn't render mass confusion

[26 May 2019, 02:17:30] <Smasher>

which award are we on

[26 May 2019, 02:17:41] <Anton{Politoed}>

M11 Favorite Major Character (Mario, Luigi, Princess Peach, Yoshi, Wario, Donkey Kong, Bowser, Rosalina, Bowser Jr., Toad)

[26 May 2019, 02:17:52] <Meta_Knight>

Skip this one

[26 May 2019, 02:17:54] <Anton{Politoed}>

M12 Favorite Supporting Character (Princess Daisy, Waluigi, Toadsworth, Diddy Kong, Professor E. Gadd, Toadette, Captain Toad, Birdo, Kamek, Poochy, Pauline, Cappy)

[26 May 2019, 02:18:04] <Anton{Politoed}>

Favorite Level Theme (Grassland, Desert, Snow/Ice, Mountain, Underground, Beach, Sky, Jungle, Space/Moon, Fire/Lava, Ghost House, Underwater, Castle, Airship, Factory/Industrial, Carnival, City/Town, Food/Sweets)

[26 May 2019, 02:18:07] <Anton{Politoed}>

M13*

[26 May 2019, 02:18:14] <Anton{Politoed}>

M14 Favorite Species (Goombas, Koopa Troopas, Boos, Shy Guys, Chain Chomps, Bob-ombs, Dry Bones, Hammer Bros., Wigglers, Chargin' Chucks, Yoshis, Toads, Lumas, Magikoopas, Pokios, Tostarenans, Humans, Bonneters)

[26 May 2019, 02:18:19] <Anton{Politoed}>

all these are unchanged since last year

[26 May 2019, 02:18:29] <Smasher>

i have nothing to add to any of these

[26 May 2019, 02:18:29] <turb>

if we didn't change them now i think they're fine yeah

[26 May 2019, 02:18:35] <turb>

nothing new was really introduced

[26 May 2019, 02:18:41] <turb>

idk if smm2 has new level themes but like

[26 May 2019, 02:18:43] <turb>

[26 May 2019, 02:18:49] <turb>

should've released it before polls went up nintendo!!

[26 May 2019, 02:18:53] <Smasher>

next year

[26 May 2019, 02:18:54] <Anton{Politoed}>

M15 Favorite Instrumental Track (Overworld Theme (Super Mario Bros.), Main Theme (Bob-omb Battlefield) (Super Mario 64), Steam Gardens (Super Mario Odyssey), Waluigi Pinball/Wario Stadium (Mario Kart DS), Athletic (Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island), Underground Theme (Super Mario Bros.), Delfino Plaza (Super Mario Sunshine),

[26 May 2019, 02:18:58] <Anton{Politoed}>

Gusty Garden Galaxy (Super Mario Galaxy), The Grand Finale (Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story), Buoy Base Galaxy (Super Mario Galaxy), Rainbow Road (Mario Kart 64), Underwater Theme (Super Mario Bros.), Underground (Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island), Rawk Hawk Battle (Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door), Staff Roll (Super Mario 64),

[26 May 2019, 02:19:04] <Anton{Politoed}>

Regular Battle Theme (Mario & Luigi: Super Star Saga), Comet Observatory (Super Mario Galaxy))

[26 May 2019, 02:19:09] <BBQ_Turtle>

I think Regular Battle Theme (Mario & Luigi: Super Star Saga) needs to be changed to Regular Battler Theme (Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga).

[26 May 2019, 02:19:11] <Lakituthequick>

Regular Battle Theme (Mario & Luigi: Super Star Saga) => (Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga)

[26 May 2019, 02:19:25] <Lakituthequick>

Capitalisation of generic names, lowercase? (I.e. "Overworld theme", "Staff roll", "Regular battle theme")

[26 May 2019, 02:19:50] <Lakituthequick>

There are a few conflicting sources on that last one

[26 May 2019, 02:20:01] <Smasher>

dk island swing deserved better

[26 May 2019, 02:20:37] <turb>

not sure the regular battle theme has any official title so i dont mind how its capitalized

[26 May 2019, 02:20:39] <turb>

whatever looks right

[26 May 2019, 02:21:40] <Anton{Politoed}>

the music scores caps the whole thing

[26 May 2019, 02:21:44] <Anton{Politoed}>

i.e. Staff Roll

[26 May 2019, 02:21:53] <Lakituthequick>

Several sources also call Overworld (T|t)heme thr Ground theme instead, Smash among another

[26 May 2019, 02:22:32] <Anton{Politoed}>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Mario_Bros._theme

[26 May 2019, 02:22:59] <turb>

i guess it's both

[26 May 2019, 02:23:07] <turb>

i'd be fine with just keeping it overworld

[26 May 2019, 02:23:17] <Lakituthequick>

Then for consistency

[26 May 2019, 02:23:18] <turb>

people will know what it is regardless

[26 May 2019, 02:23:21] <Lakituthequick>

Athletic => Athletic theme (Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island)

[26 May 2019, 02:23:21] <Lakituthequick>

Underground => Underground theme (Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island)

[26 May 2019, 02:23:29] <Lakituthequick>

true

[26 May 2019, 02:24:21] <Anton{Politoed}>

what's it consistent with

[26 May 2019, 02:24:35] <Lakituthequick>

featureing "theme" after the word

[26 May 2019, 02:25:28] <Anton{Politoed}>

music score refers to it as "Underworld Theme"

[26 May 2019, 02:25:30] <Anton{Politoed}>

ay dios mio

[26 May 2019, 02:26:21] <turb>

rip

[26 May 2019, 02:26:24] <Anton{Politoed}>

made it Athletic Theme

[26 May 2019, 02:26:32] <Lakituthequick>

which music score

[26 May 2019, 02:26:40] <turb>

i'm just not really saying shit because like as long as it's clear what theme is meant and it can be easily searched up on youtube it's fine

[26 May 2019, 02:26:45] <turb>

at least that's how i view it

[26 May 2019, 02:27:01] <Anton{Politoed}>

I guess they're not official

[26 May 2019, 02:27:03] <Anton{Politoed}>

ay dios mio

[26 May 2019, 02:27:55] <Anton{Politoed}>

there's no source to confirm either form of capitalization so unless it will kill someone I'd prefer just keeping it all caps as it's already internally consistent and it's less for me to change and end up missing as I go along

[26 May 2019, 02:28:12] <Lakituthequick>

[26 May 2019, 02:28:22] <Gabumon>

I agree with turb

[26 May 2019, 02:28:39] <Gabumon>

in an ambiguous case like this, as long as it's clear what's meant, it's fine

[26 May 2019, 02:29:04] <Anton{Politoed}>

M16 Favorite Item (Tanooki Suit/Stone Leaf, Super Leaf, Super Star, Fire Flower, Mega Mushroom, Metal Cap, Wing Cap, Bullet Bill, Propeller Mushroom, Penguin Suit, Cloud Flower, Cape Feather, Gold Flower, Super Bell, Double Cherry, Mystery Mushroom, Motor Scooter, Hammer Suit, Super Crown)

[26 May 2019, 02:29:12] <Lakituthequick>

Stone Leaf => Statue Leaf

[26 May 2019, 02:29:34] <turb>

oh is it called the statue leaf

[26 May 2019, 02:29:45] <Lakituthequick>

apparently

[26 May 2019, 02:29:49] <turb>

it is

[26 May 2019, 02:29:51] <turb>

dang

[26 May 2019, 02:31:01] <Anton{Politoed}>

M17 Favorite Mario RPG (Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars, Paper Mario, Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time, Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, Super Paper Mario, Paper Mario: Sticker Star, Mario & Luigi: Dream Team,

[26 May 2019, 02:31:11] <Anton{Politoed}>

Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Bros. Edition, Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam, Paper Mario: Color Splash, Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle)

[26 May 2019, 02:31:44] <turb>

i want to say skip

[26 May 2019, 02:32:08] <Smasher>

i cant think of a reason not to

[26 May 2019, 02:32:14] <Meta_Knight>

Same

[26 May 2019, 02:32:15] <Lakituthequick>

i don't have notes here so

[26 May 2019, 02:32:20] <Anton{Politoed}>

M18 Favorite Mario Party Game (Mario Party, Mario Party 2, Mario Party 3, Mario Party 4, Mario Party 5, Mario Party 6, Mario Party Advance, Mario Party 7, Mario Party DS, Mario Party 8, Mario Party 9, Mario Party: Island Tour, Mario Party 10, Mario Party: Star Rush, Mario Party: The Top 100, Super Mario Party)

[26 May 2019, 02:32:39] <Anton{Politoed}>

M19 Favorite Villain (Bowser, Kamek, King K. Rool, Dimentio, Bowser Jr., King Boo, Count Bleck, Cackletta, Fawful, Wart, Sir Grodus, Shadow Queen, Lord Crump, Captain Syrup, Shroobs, Koopa Bros.)

[26 May 2019, 02:32:56] <turb>

this is another thing that was resolved on forums right

[26 May 2019, 02:33:08] <Anton{Politoed}>

M20 Favorite Sports Game (Mario Tennis (N64), Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour, Mario Power Tennis, Mario Superstar Baseball, Mario Strikers Charged, Mario Hoops 3-on-3, Mario Sports Mix, Super Mario Strikers, Mario Super Sluggers, Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games, Mario Tennis Open, Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games, Mario Golf: World Tour,

[26 May 2019, 02:33:09] <Anton{Politoed}>

Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash, Mario Sports Superstars, Mario Tennis Aces)

[26 May 2019, 02:33:10] <Anton{Politoed}>

yeah

[26 May 2019, 02:33:15] <Meta_Knight>

These all seem okay

[26 May 2019, 02:33:26] <Smasher>

nothing to say here

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[26 May 2019, 02:34:10] <Anton{Politoed}>

M21 Favorite Puzzle Game (Dr. Mario (series), Tetris Attack, Yoshi's Cookie, Wario's Woods, Mario's Picross, Yoshi, Donkey Kong (Game Boy)/Mario vs. Donkey Kong (GBA), Mario vs. Donkey Kong (2 and onwards), DK: King of Swing/DK: Jungle Climber, Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker, Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Bros. Edition)

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[26 May 2019, 02:35:17] <Lakituthequick>

no notes here

[26 May 2019, 02:35:25] <Anton{Politoed}>

M22 Favorite Battle Course (Battle Course 1 (SNES), Skyscraper, Block Fort (N64), Pipe Plaza, Luigi's Mansion, Nintendo DS, Twilight House, Delfino Pier, Funky Stadium, Honeybee Hive, Battle Stadium, Dragon Palace, Lunar Colony, Urchin Underpass, Wuhu Town)

[26 May 2019, 02:35:33] <Lakituthequick>

as well as here

[26 May 2019, 02:35:37] <Anton{Politoed}>

M23 Favorite Capture (Pokio, Tropical Wiggler, Bowser, Gushen, T-Rex, Chargin' Chuck, Glydon, Sherm, Uproot, Goomba, Frog, Yoshi, Lakitu, Parabones/Paragoomba, Hammer Bro/Fire Bro, Lava Bubble)

[26 May 2019, 02:35:44] <turb>

this seems also fine

[26 May 2019, 02:35:46] <Lakituthequick>

and here

[26 May 2019, 02:35:49] <BBQTurtle>

Sorry, just had a random wi-fi drop-out.

[26 May 2019, 02:36:04] <Anton{Politoed}>

M24 Favorite Costume (Skeleton, Mario 64, Sunshine, Knight, Boxer Shorts, Bowser's Wedding Suit, Samurai, Bridal, Waluigi, Mario Wedding Suit, Space, Tostarena Set, Cowboy, Musician, Classic, Santa, Zombie, 8-Bit)

[26 May 2019, 02:36:10] <Lakituthequick>

Casing for Mario and Bowser's wedding suits, boxer shorts, Tostarena set and 8-bit

[26 May 2019, 02:36:43] <Lakituthequick>

unless theyŕe capitalised in-game

[26 May 2019, 02:37:05] <Anton{Politoed}>

they're capitalized on the Crazy Cap wiki page

[26 May 2019, 02:37:16] <Anton{Politoed}>

I'd have to grab my switch and change games out to check the source

[26 May 2019, 02:38:01] <Lakituthequick>

i'll believe the wiki page, carry on

[26 May 2019, 02:38:04] <Anton{Politoed}>

although I'm sure "Set" could be "set"

[26 May 2019, 02:38:12] <turb>

i was gonna say i could volunteer if needed

[26 May 2019, 02:38:13] <Lakituthequick>

that is a good one though

[26 May 2019, 02:38:17] <turb>

yeah lowr case set

[26 May 2019, 02:38:20] <turb>

is the only thing i can think of

[26 May 2019, 02:38:37] <Smasher>

i can do it if needed but itll take a few minutes

[26 May 2019, 02:38:38] <Anton{Politoed}>

M25 Favorite 2D Mario Level (World 1-1 (SMB), Donut Plains 1 (SMW), Forest of Illusion 3 (SMW), World 1-2 (SMB), World 2-Pyramid (SMB3), Donut Secret House (SMW), Painted Swampland (NSMBU), Front Door (SMW), World 8-7 (NSMBW), World 4-1 (SMB3), Yoshi's Island 2 (SMW), World 5-3 (SMB3), World 2-3 (NSMB), World 1-1 (NSMB), World 8-4 (SMB))

[26 May 2019, 02:39:23] <Lakituthequick>

all good

[26 May 2019, 02:39:32] <Anton{Politoed}>

M26 Favorite 3D Mario Level (Toy Time Galaxy (SMG), Good Egg Galaxy (SMG), Gusty Garden Galaxy (SMG), Whomp's Fortress/Throwback Galaxy (SM64/SMG2), Grandmaster Galaxy (SMG2), Cosmic Cove Galaxy (SMG2), Bob-omb Battlefield (SM64), Tick Tock Clock (SM64), Pinna Park (SMS), Sirena Beach (SMS), Delfino Plaza/Airstrip (SMS), Mount Must Dash (SM3DW),

[26 May 2019, 02:39:33] <Anton{Politoed}>

The Great Tower of Bowser Land (SM3DW), Champion's Road (SM3DW), Metro Kingdom (SMO), Bowser's Kingdom (SMO), Wooded Kingdom (SMO), Sand Kingdom (SMO))

[26 May 2019, 02:39:49] <Lakituthequick>

originally a curly apothrophe but not anymore

[26 May 2019, 02:40:01] <Anton{Politoed}>

M27 Favorite Boss Battle (Phantamanta (SMS), Brobot (SPM), Rawk Hawk (PM:TTYD), Bowser in the Sky (SM64), Kaptain K. Rool 1 and 2 (DKC2), Super Dimentio (SPM), Elder Princess Shroob (M&L:PiT), Megaleg (SMG), General Guy (PM), Kingfin (SMG), Popple and Rookie (M&L:SS), Dark Bowser (M&L:BIS), Bowser/Meowser (SM3DW), Bowser (SMG),

[26 May 2019, 02:40:01] <Anton{Politoed}>

Knucklotec (SMO), Torkdrift (SMO), Mechawiggler (SMO), Bowser (SMO))

[26 May 2019, 02:40:44] <Anton{Politoed}>

so far the crafted world battles aren't anything wild and crazy

[26 May 2019, 02:40:56] <turb>

i'm assuming they're general yoshi boss fare

[26 May 2019, 02:40:59] <Anton{Politoed}>

although I still need to beat the game and subsequently the final battle(s)

[26 May 2019, 02:41:08] <Anton{Politoed}>

pretty much yeah

[26 May 2019, 02:41:26] <turb>

i haven't seen anyone jerk off to the final boss being better than the original yoshis island final boss

[26 May 2019, 02:41:29] <Anton{Politoed}>

honestly the best part about them is the animation beforehand with kamek making a bunch of trash slam together into bosses

[26 May 2019, 02:41:49] <Lakituthequick>

nice

[26 May 2019, 02:41:53] <Anton{Politoed}>

kamek is the best part of the game, in case anyone ever doubted

[26 May 2019, 02:42:10] <Anton{Politoed}>

M28 Favorite Game Setting (Mushroom Kingdom (SMB), Mushroom Kingdom (PM), Super Mario RPG World, Dinosaur Land (SMW), Yoshi's Island (SMW2:YI), Isle Delfino (SMS), Beanbean Kingdom (M&L:SS), Rogueport & surrounding areas (PM:TTYD), Flipside/Flopside & dimensions (SPM), Sarasaland (SML), Donkey Kong Island (DKC), Sprixie Kingdom (SM3DW),

[26 May 2019, 02:42:18] <Anton{Politoed}>

Comet Observatory & galaxies (SMG), Pi'illo Island (M&L:DT), Prism Island (PM:CS), Super Mario Odyssey World, Crocodile Isle (DKC2), Peach's Castle (SM64))

[26 May 2019, 02:42:29] <Lakituthequick>

apostrophe but ...

[26 May 2019, 02:42:55] <Anton{Politoed}>

M29 Favorite Classic Game (GCN/GBA and older) (Super Mario World, Super Mario 64, Paper Mario, Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars, Donkey Kong 64, Super Mario Bros., Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, Mario Kart 64, Mario Party 2, Wario Land 3, Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest,

[26 May 2019, 02:42:56] <Anton{Politoed}>

Mario Party 3, Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Super Mario Sunshine, Wario Land 4, Luigi's Mansion, Mario Kart: Double Dash!!)

[26 May 2019, 02:43:43] <Smasher>

dont see anything wrong but it always makes me feel old to realize gamecube games are now classic

[26 May 2019, 02:43:56] <Anton{Politoed}>

M30 Favorite Modern Game (Wii/DS and newer) (Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Mario Kart Wii, Super Mario 3D Land, Super Paper Mario, Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon, Super Mario 3D World, Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, Mario Kart 8/Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Super Mario Maker, Yoshi's Woolly World/Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World, Paper Mario: Color Splash

[26 May 2019, 02:43:58] <Anton{Politoed}>

, Super Mario Odyssey, Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle, Yoshi's Crafted World)

[26 May 2019, 02:44:22] <Lakituthequick>

wait until wii is considered classic

[26 May 2019, 02:44:32] <Anton{Politoed}>

soon

[26 May 2019, 02:44:34] <turb>

apostrophes fixed #bless

[26 May 2019, 02:44:45] <turb>

thank GOD we're not counting the wii u as a real generation for these awards

[26 May 2019, 02:44:50] <Lakituthequick>

i don't want to click that channel name

[26 May 2019, 02:45:24] <Anton{Politoed}>

chanserv says it's not registered

[26 May 2019, 02:45:30] <Anton{Politoed}>

F1 Worst Character (Mario, Princess Daisy, Waluigi, Wario, Petey Piranha, Birdo, Mimi, Starlow, Lubba, Bowser Jr., Toad, Fawful, Pink Gold Peach, Baby Rosalina, Kersti, Rosalina, Spewart)

[26 May 2019, 02:45:31] <Gabumon>

what's a wii u

[26 May 2019, 02:45:37] <Smasher>

i have no idea

[26 May 2019, 02:45:40] <Lakituthequick>

wow we already at fail

[26 May 2019, 02:45:52] <Smasher>

i think it might have been some mass hallucination

[26 May 2019, 02:46:01] <Anton{Politoed}>

F2 Worst 2D Level (The Very Loooooong Cave (SMW2:YI), Tubular (SMW), World 8-3 (SMB), Endless World of Yoshis (SMW2:YI), World 9-7 (NSMBW), Lakitu's Wall (SMW2:YI), Mine Cart Madness (DKC), World 8-Bowser's Castle (SMB3), Stampede Sprint (DKC3), World 8-1 (SMB), World 4-2 (SMB2), World 7-8 (SMB3), The Big Board (WL4), Pendulum Castle (NSMBU),

[26 May 2019, 02:46:02] <Anton{Politoed}>

Doodle Woods (WL4), World 7-4 (SMB), World 3-5 (SMB3), World 6-4 (SMB3))

[26 May 2019, 02:46:13] <Lakituthequick>

still the right amount of o's

[26 May 2019, 02:46:36] <Anton{Politoed}>

F3 Worst 3D Level (Corona Mountain (SMS), The Toxic Waterfall/Lily Pad Ride (SMS), Pachinko Game (SMS), Stone Cyclone Galaxy (SMG2), Wing Mario Over the Rainbow/Over the Rainbows (SM64), Sling Pod Galaxy (SMG), Rolling Gizmo Galaxy (SMG), Boss Blitz Galaxy (SMG2), Gold Leaf Galaxy (SMG), Bubble Breeze Galaxy (SMG), World 1-1 (SM3DL),

[26 May 2019, 02:46:37] <Anton{Politoed}>

Broken Blue Bully Belt (SM3DW), Fuzzy Time Mine (SM3DW), Champion's Road (SM3DW), Grandmaster Galaxy (SMG2), Luncheon Kingdom (SMO), Dark Side (SMO), Darker Side (SMO))

[26 May 2019, 02:47:26] <Gabumon>

nop

[26 May 2019, 02:47:28] <turb>

seems ok

[26 May 2019, 02:47:33] <Anton{Politoed}>

F4 Worst RPG Area (Bowser's Keep (SMRPG), Dry Dry Desert (PM), Flower Fields (PM), Twilight Trail (PM:TTYD), Merlee's Mansion (SPM), Sammer's Kingdom (SPM), The Overthere (SPM), Long Fall Falls (PM:SS), Sandshifter Ruins (PM:SS), Drybake Stadium (PM:SS), Teehee Valley (M&L:SS), Joke's End (M&L:SS), Oho Ocean (M&L:SS), Shroob Castle (M&L:PiT),

[26 May 2019, 02:47:34] <Lakituthequick>

yup

[26 May 2019, 02:47:34] <Anton{Politoed}>

Toad Town (M&L:PiT), Dreamy Mount Pajamaja (M&L:DT), Violet Passage (PM:CS), Spooky Trails (M+RKB))

[26 May 2019, 02:47:55] <turb>

do we have different abbreviations of m+rkb or is it consistent across all awards

[26 May 2019, 02:47:56] <Anton{Politoed}>

F5 Worst Level Concept (Ice levels, Water levels, Autoscrolling levels, Ghost Houses, Rolling Ball galaxies, Purple Coin levels, “Secret of _” levels (SMS), Red Coin missions (SMS), Surfing galaxies, Automatic levels (SMM), Restrictively low timers, Checkpointless challenges, Cappyless/FLUDDless missions)

[26 May 2019, 02:48:00] <Lakituthequick>

“Secret of _” levels (SMS): curly quotes

[26 May 2019, 02:48:00] <Lakituthequick>

Rolling Ball galaxies => Star Ball galaxies

[26 May 2019, 02:48:00] <Lakituthequick>

Surfing galaxies: can only find one instance, "Ray surfing (SMG)"? ( https://www.mariowiki.com/Surfing_101 )

[26 May 2019, 02:48:07] <BBQTurtle>

Does FLUDDless missions perhaps need to be changed to F.L.U.D.D.less missions, as F.L.U.D.D. is how it's usually formatted?

[26 May 2019, 02:48:43] <turb>

theres 2 surfing galaxies yeah

[26 May 2019, 02:49:00] <Anton{Politoed}>

loop and swoop

[26 May 2019, 02:49:37] <Lakituthequick>

where's the second one

[26 May 2019, 02:49:50] <Lakituthequick>

owait

[26 May 2019, 02:49:52] <Smasher>

i remember there being a second one

[26 May 2019, 02:50:04] <turb>

its linked on surfing 101

[26 May 2019, 02:50:23] <Lakituthequick>

i'd swear that link wasn't there last time i visisted the page but ...

[26 May 2019, 02:50:34] <Anton{Politoed}>

ninjas

[26 May 2019, 02:50:43] <Anton{Politoed}>

F6 Worst Spin-off (Dr. Mario 64, Mario Pinball Land, Mario Kart: Super Circuit, Mario Party 9, Mario Super Sluggers, Mario Party Advance, Mario Party 10, Paper Mario: Sticker Star, Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash, Mario Kart Arcade GP Games, Super Mario Run, Game & Wario)

[26 May 2019, 02:51:02] <Lakituthequick>

Mario Kart Arcade GP Games => Mario Kart Arcade GP games

[26 May 2019, 02:51:52] <Anton{Politoed}>

F7 Worst Enemy (Lakitus, Big Berthas, Wizzerds, Bandits, Rocky Wrenches, Bloopers, Cursyas, Goombas, Hammer Bros., Parabones, Fangs, Grinders (SMW2:YI)/Ukikis, Fuzzies, Burrbos, Urban Stingbies)

[26 May 2019, 02:52:43] <Gabumon>

quietly remove hammer bros

[26 May 2019, 02:52:46] <turb>

i agree

[26 May 2019, 02:53:01] <Anton{Politoed}>

done

[26 May 2019, 02:53:03] <Anton{Politoed}>

F8 Worst Mario Kart Course (Choco Mountain, Sky Garden, Shy Guy Beach, Rainbow Road (SNES), Yoshi Falls, Grumble Volcano, Sherbet Land (N64), Koopa Beach 2, Banshee Boardwalk, Maka Wuhu, Rosalina's Ice World, Rainbow Road (Wii), Dolphin Shoals, Bone-Dry Dunes, Rainbow Road (N64), Baby Park, Figure-8 Circuit)

[26 May 2019, 02:53:43] <turb>

seems ok to me

[26 May 2019, 02:53:50] <turb>

wish the names didn't overlap so much but that's on the devs

[26 May 2019, 02:53:57] <Anton{Politoed}>

F9 Worst Direction of Series (Mario vs. Donkey Kong, Paper Mario, amiibo-centric/focused games, Mario Party, Mario Tennis, New Super Mario Bros., Mario 3D games, WarioWare, Yoshi, Mario & Luigi)

[26 May 2019, 02:55:00] <Smasher>

i would complain about hammer bros being quietly removed if i didnt love them

[26 May 2019, 02:55:01] <turb>

this one seems fine barring what was discussed before but we didn't have any extra replacement ideas

[26 May 2019, 02:55:14] <Smasher>

theres always next time

[26 May 2019, 02:55:17] <turb>

unless this is the one getting axed for worst remake

[26 May 2019, 02:55:22] <turb>

time to read

[26 May 2019, 02:55:31] <Lakituthequick>

worst remake is f13

[26 May 2019, 02:55:40] <turb>

yeah i just saw

[26 May 2019, 02:55:48] <Lakituthequick>

replaced mario party minigame

[26 May 2019, 02:55:49] <Anton{Politoed}>

F10 Worst Game Mechanic (Dimensional Flipping (SPM), Star Bits (SMG & SMG2), Camera (3D Games), Vibes (SPP), Joystick twirling (MP1), Limited inventory (PM & PM:TTYD), Stickers/Battle Cards (PM:SS/PM:CS), Button mashing (MP1), Gyroscope/motion controls, Vehicles (MP9 & MP10), Extra life system, Chance minigames (Mario Party series),

[26 May 2019, 02:56:00] <Anton{Politoed}>

Must use easy mode character in 4 player mode (NSMBUDX))

[26 May 2019, 02:56:45] <Anton{Politoed}>

F11 Biggest Missed Opportunity (Sony partnership failure, Transphobia (Birdo, Vivian), Inadequate amiibo production, Super Mario Spikers cancellation, Mario Takes America cancellation, Failure of the Mario Artist series, Mario & Wario not being localized, Wrecking Crew '98 not being localized, Abandoning Paper Mario: Sticker Star early build,

[26 May 2019, 02:56:47] <Anton{Politoed}>

Donkey Kong Racing cancellation, Super Mario's Wacky Worlds cancellation, Taking down fangames, Lack of online level sharing in SMM3DS, Wasted potential of Ruined Kingdom, Rejection of Archie Comics Super Mario series pitch)

[26 May 2019, 02:56:57] <Lakituthequick>

I coined a potential candidate for this one

[26 May 2019, 02:57:02] <Anton{Politoed}>

this one was unchanged which reminds me we still need to do all of the definitions as we're using them in the polls

[26 May 2019, 02:57:03] <turb>

maybe capitalization things here

[26 May 2019, 02:57:04] <Lakituthequick>

was snowed under the other discussion

[26 May 2019, 02:57:05] <turb>

also yeah

[26 May 2019, 02:57:14] <turb>

forgot about the definitions

[26 May 2019, 02:57:16] <Lakituthequick>

"Properly localising obscure names in Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia"

[26 May 2019, 02:57:24] <Anton{Politoed}>

good one

[26 May 2019, 02:57:36] <Smasher>

good one

[26 May 2019, 02:57:48] <Lakituthequick>

capitalisation seems okay

[26 May 2019, 02:57:55] <Anton{Politoed}>

just gonna shove that one in there

[26 May 2019, 02:58:19] <turb>

good

[26 May 2019, 02:58:26] <Anton{Politoed}>

also

[26 May 2019, 02:58:28] <Anton{Politoed}>

just thought

[26 May 2019, 02:58:32] <Lakituthequick>

Or does it need "Not ..." for naming

[26 May 2019, 02:58:39] <Anton{Politoed}>

"Transphobia (Birdo, Vivian)"

[26 May 2019, 02:59:04] <Anton{Politoed}>

how about "Improper handling of trans characters (Birdo, Vivian)"

[26 May 2019, 02:59:13] <turb>

i love it

[26 May 2019, 02:59:14] <turb>

shove it in

[26 May 2019, 02:59:16] <Lakituthequick>

fine to me

[26 May 2019, 02:59:24] <turb>

we've fixed the wording

[26 May 2019, 02:59:33] <Smasher>

have we finally done it

[26 May 2019, 02:59:43] <turb>

shoutouts to contrapoints

[26 May 2019, 03:00:24] <Anton{Politoed}>

F12 Worst Game Objective (Boshi Race (SMRPG), Yoshi Eggs (SMA), Blue Coins (SMS), Rabbits (SM64DS), Flopside Pit of 100 Trials (SPM), Piccolo (SPM), Duel of 100 (SPM), World 9 (NSMBW), One million Coins (NSMB2), Green Stars (SMG2), Completing every level with every character (SM3DW), Star/Moon Coin challenges (MG:WT),

[26 May 2019, 03:00:25] <Anton{Politoed}>

Chasing General White (PM:TTYD), Super Expert Mode (SMM), Beach Volleyball (SMO), Jump-Rope Challenge (SMO), Purple Coins (SMG1/SMG2))

[26 May 2019, 03:00:36] <Lakituthequick>

Boshi Race (SMRPG) => Boshi race (SMRPG)

[26 May 2019, 03:01:28] <Anton{Politoed}>

F13 Worst Remake (Super Mario 64 DS, Super Mario Advance 1, Super Mario Advance 2, Super Mario Advance 3, Super Mario Advance 4, Diddy Kong Racing DS, Super Mario Bros. Deluxe, Super Mario All-Stars, Luigi's Mansion (3DS), Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions, Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey)