2020-04-18 02:00:09	@Anton{Politoed}	it's time for meeting time
2020-04-18 02:00:36	+Rose	Woo
2020-04-18 02:00:49	Zange	yay!!
2020-04-18 02:00:53	@Anton{Politoed}	hello to everyone who showed up
2020-04-18 02:01:00	Power_Flotzo	Hey all!
2020-04-18 02:01:02	Hooded_Pitohui	It's time yet again
2020-04-18 02:01:03	@Anton{Politoed}	today's agenda is pretty simple:
2020-04-18 02:01:12	@Anton{Politoed}	*Intro
2020-04-18 02:01:24	@Anton{Politoed}	*Mario Awards, M10 -
2020-04-18 02:01:36	@Anton{Politoed}	*and if the mood is right, discuss venues
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2020-04-18 02:02:29	@Anton{Politoed}	unless anyone has anything pressing to bring up immediately, I'll be starting in a minute or so
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2020-04-18 02:03:56	@Anton{Politoed}	alrighty so
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2020-04-18 02:04:15	@Anton{Politoed}	M10 Favorite Lyrical Song (Ashley's Theme (WarioWare: Touched!), Break Free (Lead the Way) (Super Mario Odyssey), DK Rap (Donkey Kong 64), Do the Mario (The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!), Jump Up, Super Star! (Super Mario Odyssey), Karaoke (Medamayaki) (Wario Land 4), The Mario Drawing Song (Flipnote Studio), Mona Pizza's Song (WarioWare: Twisted!),
2020-04-18 02:04:17	@Anton{Politoed}	Phantom of the Bwahpera (Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle), Eddie, Let Me Go Back To My Home (Donkey Kong Country cartoon), Pirate's Scorn (Donkey Kong Country cartoon), I'm Leo Luster (Donkey Kong Country cartoon), Intro (Super Mario World cartoon), Intro (Donkey Kong Country cartoon), Body Rock (WarioWare: D.I.Y.), Ignorance is Bliss (White Knuckle Scorin'),
2020-04-18 02:04:20	@Lakituthequick	15) Intro (Donkey Kong Country cartoon) - 13 - 0.92%
2020-04-18 02:04:20	@Lakituthequick	16) Pirate's Scorn (Donkey Kong Country cartoon) - 11 - 0.78%
2020-04-18 02:04:20	@Lakituthequick	17) Karaoke (Medamayaki) (Wario Land 4) - 10 - 0.71%
2020-04-18 02:04:20	@Lakituthequick	18) O. I'm Nobody's Hero (Donkey Kong Country cartoon) - 3 - 0.21%
2020-04-18 02:04:20	@Lakituthequick	19) O. Always Smiling (Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix) - 2 - 0.14%
2020-04-18 02:04:20	@Lakituthequick	19) O. Holograms (Donkey Kong Country cartoon) - 2 - 0.14%
2020-04-18 02:04:20	@Lakituthequick	19) O. Intro (The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!) - 2 - 0.14%
2020-04-18 02:04:20	@Lakituthequick	19) O. Mike's Theme - 2 - 0.14%
2020-04-18 02:04:23	@Anton{Politoed}	Tomorrow Hill (WarioWare: Smooth Moves))
2020-04-18 02:05:11	@Anton{Politoed}	I could've swore there was a suggestion for this award but I can't find it
2020-04-18 02:05:14	mfan168	i'm almost tempted to swap out the dkc songs for different ones lmao
2020-04-18 02:05:26	mfan168	you can fill the entire bracket with songs from that show
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2020-04-18 02:05:29	@Anton{Politoed}	so I might just be ptsding from people having a fucking stroke over lyrical/instrumental last year
2020-04-18 02:05:32	YFJ	Where's Big Bog Monster on here
2020-04-18 02:05:38	Honoka_Chaosaka	hi
2020-04-18 02:05:40	Honoka_Chaosaka	sorry
2020-04-18 02:05:45	Honoka_Chaosaka	i straight up forgot that today was Friday
2020-04-18 02:05:45	@Lakituthequick	23) O. The Big Bog Monster (Donkey Kong Country cartoon) - 1 - 0.07%
2020-04-18 02:05:55	YFJ	That was probably me lol
2020-04-18 02:05:55	Honoka_Chaosaka	i've been thinking it was Thursday for the past four hours
2020-04-18 02:06:02	Honoka_Chaosaka	what are we on
2020-04-18 02:06:07	Zange	m10
2020-04-18 02:06:11	+Rose	I don't have very strong opinions on this award
2020-04-18 02:06:15	@Lakituthequick	fav lyric song
2020-04-18 02:06:19	+Rose	Should anything be changed
2020-04-18 02:06:52	YFJ	Other than replacing all options with big bog monster i have no suggestions
2020-04-18 02:06:52	Hooded_Pitohui	There's not much I can say here - nothing stands out as needing a change yet, and, while I might be wrong, I don't remember a comment on it off the top of my head
2020-04-18 02:06:54	@Anton{Politoed}	I don't think we have any new material, so it's just alterations based on results
2020-04-18 02:06:59	Zange	honestly this award's probably fine as is, yeah
2020-04-18 02:07:06	@Lakituthequick	could consider nobody's hero
2020-04-18 02:07:14	@Lakituthequick	otherwise no big suggestions
2020-04-18 02:07:20	@Lakituthequick	WAIT
2020-04-18 02:07:28	@Lakituthequick	That song for Nintendo World Japan
2020-04-18 02:07:38	YFJ	Oh yeah that
2020-04-18 02:07:42	@Anton{Politoed}	that could be something
2020-04-18 02:07:43	Zange	they have a song??
2020-04-18 02:07:43	Power_Flotzo	We Are Born to Play?
2020-04-18 02:07:48	Hooded_Pitohui	Oh, from that trailer
2020-04-18 02:07:52	@Lakituthequick	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTSA709zNzY
2020-04-18 02:07:57	@Anton{Politoed}	is it specifically mario or nintendo
2020-04-18 02:07:57	Hooded_Pitohui	Or, promo video, not trailer I guess
2020-04-18 02:08:02	@Lakituthequick	Galantis ft. Charli XCX - WE ARE BORN TO PLAY
2020-04-18 02:08:13	+Rose	That doesn't seem like a Mario song
2020-04-18 02:08:26	+Rose	Well
2020-04-18 02:08:39	YFJ	I don't think it had origins outside that trailer
2020-04-18 02:08:42	@Anton{Politoed}	we add it and charli comes to the forum to accept the award
2020-04-18 02:08:45	@Lakituthequick	it's very Mario-focussed in the leitmotifs at least
2020-04-18 02:09:10	+Rose	See it's because it's advertising Super Nintendo World for me, not Super Mario World (even if it basically is just that)
2020-04-18 02:09:14	Honoka_Chaosaka	i'd say that if it was made /for/ the promo video
2020-04-18 02:09:17	Hooded_Pitohui	It seems to have been created specifically for this, fwiw
2020-04-18 02:09:23	Honoka_Chaosaka	that's a big point in favor
2020-04-18 02:09:25	+Rose	So it's hard to regard it as a Mario song??
2020-04-18 02:09:45	YFJ	Super Nintendo World is basically Super Mario World at present
2020-04-18 02:10:26	@Lakituthequick	Lyrics are in a pinned commend here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L-QVlJzvyo
2020-04-18 02:10:30	@Lakituthequick	No Mario references
2020-04-18 02:10:39	@Lakituthequick	Not explicitly at least
2020-04-18 02:10:42	Zange	this is one of those things where i have no idea how to feel about it
2020-04-18 02:10:47	+Rose	I'm not necessarily opposed to the inclusion I just think it's on the border
2020-04-18 02:10:56	Zange	because yeah there's a lot of references to mario music in it
2020-04-18 02:11:08	@Anton{Politoed}	it's entirely mario-centric
2020-04-18 02:11:12	Zange	but also it's not from any mario-specific media
2020-04-18 02:11:22	@Anton{Politoed}	there's not even any general nintendo things or other franchises in it
2020-04-18 02:11:25	@Anton{Politoed}	it's mario
2020-04-18 02:11:37	+Smasher	i got busy sorry, but i have no opinion on this
2020-04-18 02:11:40	@Lakituthequick	But yeah Nintendo World is just Mario World at this point, and the clip and the music is all Mario
2020-04-18 02:11:40	YFJ	I think it should be added and throw out either karaoke or pirate's scorn
2020-04-18 02:11:44	Honoka_Chaosaka	i think if it's made for nintendo directly, officially licensed, and the clip and music is mario
2020-04-18 02:11:46	Honoka_Chaosaka	that's enough
2020-04-18 02:11:55	Hooded_Pitohui	It's not what I'd think of if asked to imagine a Mario song, but I think this qualifies as a "Mario song"
2020-04-18 02:12:32	@Lakituthequick	I'm also in favour of adding
2020-04-18 02:12:35	@Anton{Politoed}	it certainly stretches the definition should we accept it, we can see how it does
2020-04-18 02:12:54	+Rose	"or other franchises in it" Red balloons mentioned as a lyric, DKCR red balloons, coincidence??
2020-04-18 02:13:16	@Lakituthequick	"I'M CAPTURED BY THE FEELING"
2020-04-18 02:13:29	@Lakituthequick	Cappy capture? Stretch
2020-04-18 02:13:43	+Rose	Anyway I'm still fine with its inclusion
2020-04-18 02:13:43	Hooded_Pitohui	This article brings some of those references, though... I personally feel like a lot of these are stretches
2020-04-18 02:13:44	Hooded_Pitohui	https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/every-mario-reference-in-galantis-feat-charli-xcxs-born-to-play
2020-04-18 02:13:53	@Anton{Politoed}	Vote: Add "Galantis ft. Charli XCX - WE ARE BORN TO PLAY (Super Nintendo World Japan promo)" to M10? (y/n/a)
2020-04-18 02:13:59	@Anton{Politoed}	my what a wordy nominee
2020-04-18 02:14:00	Zange	a
2020-04-18 02:14:03	@Lakituthequick	y
2020-04-18 02:14:08	Hooded_Pitohui	y
2020-04-18 02:14:09	mfan168	a
2020-04-18 02:14:15	+Smasher	:words:
2020-04-18 02:14:17	+Smasher	a
2020-04-18 02:14:18	+Rose	a
2020-04-18 02:14:19	YFJ	y
2020-04-18 02:14:20	+Smasher	2-0-4
2020-04-18 02:14:26	+Smasher	3-0-4
2020-04-18 02:14:40	Honoka_Chaosaka	y
2020-04-18 02:14:52	+Smasher	4-0-4
2020-04-18 02:14:55	@Lakituthequick	lyrics are also here lol https://www.mariowiki.com/We_Are_Born_to_Play
2020-04-18 02:14:59	Power_Flotzo	y
2020-04-18 02:15:08	+Smasher	5-0-5
2020-04-18 02:15:12	+Smasher	5-0-4*
2020-04-18 02:16:24	@Anton{Politoed}	added
2020-04-18 02:16:28	@Anton{Politoed}	this brings the award to 18
2020-04-18 02:16:36	@Anton{Politoed}	we don't have to remove anything but we could if there's support
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2020-04-18 02:17:16	@Anton{Politoed}	I wouldn't really support removing anything because a lot of the bottom ranking nominees are a vote or two apart
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2020-04-18 02:17:24	Honoka_Chaosaka	yeah, it's too all or nothing on the bottom
2020-04-18 02:17:26	@Anton{Politoed}	as a result of odyssey absorbing an overwhelming amount of votes
2020-04-18 02:17:38	Honoka_Chaosaka	so i'm fine just leaving it at 18
2020-04-18 02:17:45	+Smasher	i don't think anything needs to be removed yeah
2020-04-18 02:17:47	+Smasher	just keep it as is
2020-04-18 02:17:55	@Lakituthequick	yeah
2020-04-18 02:17:56	Hooded_Pitohui	There's not enough a clear dropoff at the end to make me think we need to remove anything at this point
2020-04-18 02:18:25	@Anton{Politoed}	we can use this year to observe forming trends as this is still a sorta fresh award
2020-04-18 02:18:46	@Lakituthequick	no. 9 has 22 votes and 17 has 10, that's very little difference indeed
2020-04-18 02:18:50	Honoka_Chaosaka	yeah, we didn't make these untl last year iirc
2020-04-18 02:19:18	@Anton{Politoed}	M12 Favorite Supporting Character (Princess Daisy, Waluigi, Toadsworth, Diddy Kong, Professor E. Gadd, Toadette, Captain Toad, Birdo, Kamek, Poochy, Pauline, Cappy)
2020-04-18 02:19:20	@Lakituthequick	year prior actually, but last year the lyrics part was made explicit
2020-04-18 02:19:32	@Lakituthequick	10) Diddy Kong - 71 - 4.85%
2020-04-18 02:19:32	@Lakituthequick	11) Toadsworth - 50 - 3.42%
2020-04-18 02:19:32	@Lakituthequick	12) Birdo - 43 - 2.94%
2020-04-18 02:19:32	@Lakituthequick	13) O. King Boo - 4 - 0.27%
2020-04-18 02:19:32	@Lakituthequick	13) O. Nabbit - 4 - 0.27%
2020-04-18 02:19:32	@Lakituthequick	15) O. Geno - 3 - 0.21%
2020-04-18 02:19:32	@Lakituthequick	15) O. Starlow - 3 - 0.21%
2020-04-18 02:20:05	@Anton{Politoed}	were there any supporting characters that really made a surge with new games
2020-04-18 02:20:10	+Rose	King Boo
2020-04-18 02:20:12	+meowth	nothing that strikes me as a worthy add or delete right away
2020-04-18 02:20:21	+Rose	LM3
2020-04-18 02:20:26	Honoka_Chaosaka	i'd be okay with giving King Boo a promotion
2020-04-18 02:20:26	+meowth	i guess maybe king boo can be thrown in because of lm
2020-04-18 02:20:42	mfan168	cappy sort of bugs me, let me look up the definition for this award
2020-04-18 02:20:44	Honoka_Chaosaka	especially since lm3 basically confirms they're fully going with him as luigi's archnemesis
2020-04-18 02:21:01	@Anton{Politoed}	 M12 - Favorite Supporting Character - The best Mario series or Mario spin-off series character who is part of the supporting cast. This includes recurring minor characters, as well as major characters that only appeared in one game, or exclusively appear in spin-offs.
2020-04-18 02:21:20	+Rose	Oh, spinoffs are included
2020-04-18 02:21:30	mfan168	ah, fair
2020-04-18 02:21:39	+Rose	I mean, I would then argue that any of the bottom ones could be viable to add
2020-04-18 02:21:42	Zange	adding king boo would be good imo
2020-04-18 02:21:45	@Lakituthequick	Agree with King Boo
2020-04-18 02:21:53	+meowth	cappy wasn't even bottom 3 so
2020-04-18 02:21:59	@Anton{Politoed}	Vote: Add "King Boo" to M12? (y/n/a)
2020-04-18 02:21:59	@Anton{Politoed}	y
2020-04-18 02:22:04	Zange	y
2020-04-18 02:22:04	+Rose	y
2020-04-18 02:22:04	+meowth	y
2020-04-18 02:22:06	Hooded_Pitohui	y
2020-04-18 02:22:07	Honoka_Chaosaka	y
2020-04-18 02:22:07	Power_Flotzo	y
2020-04-18 02:22:07	@Lakituthequick	4) Cappy - 127 - 8.68%
2020-04-18 02:22:08	@Lakituthequick	y
2020-04-18 02:22:10	mfan168	i just thought it was a bit early for cappy when he's only been in one game so far but the definition's cool with it soooo
2020-04-18 02:22:11	mfan168	y
2020-04-18 02:22:16	+meowth	8-0-0
2020-04-18 02:22:42	+meowth	9-0-0* missed ltq
2020-04-18 02:23:02	@Lakituthequick	aw, thanks :)
2020-04-18 02:23:04	@Anton{Politoed}	is anyone feeling nabbit
2020-04-18 02:23:10	+meowth	meh
2020-04-18 02:23:14	+Rose	I'm honestly not opposed to adding him
2020-04-18 02:23:16	@Anton{Politoed}	he had the same number of votes but didn't really have a game that gives a chance of a boost
2020-04-18 02:23:28	+Rose	Didn't he appear in a Mario and Sonic game or am I mistakenly
2020-04-18 02:23:29	@Lakituthequick	yeah nabbit is just there really
2020-04-18 02:23:31	+Rose	*mistaken
2020-04-18 02:23:37	Hooded_Pitohui	I'm not feeling particularly for Nabbit but I'm not opposed to adding him
2020-04-18 02:23:38	+Rose	Because he's clearly being used if that's the case
2020-04-18 02:23:54	Hooded_Pitohui	He did have Dr. Mario World, I guess, but, then, so did... basically everyone
2020-04-18 02:24:09	Hooded_Pitohui	And it's not like they're promoting him as heavily as they were a few years ago
2020-04-18 02:24:09	Honoka_Chaosaka	i only see him listed for Rio 2016
2020-04-18 02:24:12	+Rose	The point is that if he keeps sticking around in spin offs then they're intending for him to stay
2020-04-18 02:24:18	Honoka_Chaosaka	which was back during the big Nabbit push
2020-04-18 02:24:40	+meowth	he's recurring but not particularly important or popular i don't think
2020-04-18 02:24:45	+meowth	so im indifferent
2020-04-18 02:24:45	@Lakituthequick	sssay now i think of it just after a passing vote
2020-04-18 02:25:04	@Lakituthequick	King Boo isn't really a 'supporting' character is he
2020-04-18 02:25:13	@Lakituthequick	He's an antagonist
2020-04-18 02:25:32	@Anton{Politoed}	we do have a villain award, and he is on it
2020-04-18 02:25:51	mfan168	couldn't you say the same for waluigi
2020-04-18 02:26:03	Honoka_Chaosaka	we have kamek on this award
2020-04-18 02:26:04	Hooded_Pitohui	Kamek is on here despite being an antagonist
2020-04-18 02:26:06	Honoka_Chaosaka	and- yeah
2020-04-18 02:26:08	+Rose	Kamek is on both awards—
2020-04-18 02:26:09	@Lakituthequick	hm
2020-04-18 02:26:17	Honoka_Chaosaka	i think King Boo can just exist on both awards
2020-04-18 02:26:24	Honoka_Chaosaka	like how Bowser is a major character on a villain
2020-04-18 02:26:26	Honoka_Chaosaka	*and a
2020-04-18 02:26:30	@Lakituthequick	Waluigi was anta in like one game (a dance game even)
2020-04-18 02:26:39	+meowth	agreed with perch
2020-04-18 02:26:52	@Anton{Politoed}	I think we can serve to have this definition tightened in the next year or so to include just more recurring characters
2020-04-18 02:26:58	@Anton{Politoed}	but right now I think it's fine to stay
2020-04-18 02:27:11	+Rose	Here's my feeling about Nabbit, if I may return to him
2020-04-18 02:27:18	@Lakituthequick	I'm not necessarily against King Boo here, just something to think about
2020-04-18 02:27:37	@Lakituthequick	Yes Rose 
2020-04-18 02:27:51	+Rose	There's still room on the poll, and he's made as recent of an appearance as Dr. Mario World, and if he gets like two votes, we take him off next year
2020-04-18 02:28:09	@Anton{Politoed}	that's a valid approach
2020-04-18 02:28:13	Power_Flotzo	Sounds good to me.
2020-04-18 02:28:18	Zange	that could work
2020-04-18 02:28:18	+Rose	I think he's had enough appearances and games to warrant his inclusion
2020-04-18 02:28:21	@Anton{Politoed}	he has been a playable character pretty regularly in the last couple of years
2020-04-18 02:28:22	@Lakituthequick	sure
2020-04-18 02:28:22	+meowth	fair enough
2020-04-18 02:28:25	Hooded_Pitohui	I think that's reasonable enough to add him - he has the same votes as King Boo, continues to appear
2020-04-18 02:28:41	mfan168	he's a good punching back in smash's mushroom kingdom u stage at least
2020-04-18 02:28:42	@Anton{Politoed}	Vote: Add "Nabbit" to M12? (y/n/a)
2020-04-18 02:28:44	mfan168	put him in
2020-04-18 02:28:46	+Rose	y
2020-04-18 02:28:46	mfan168	y
2020-04-18 02:28:47	@Lakituthequick	y
2020-04-18 02:28:47	Zange	y
2020-04-18 02:28:48	Honoka_Chaosaka	a
2020-04-18 02:28:48	+meowth	y
2020-04-18 02:28:48	Hooded_Pitohui	y
2020-04-18 02:28:50	Power_Flotzo	y
2020-04-18 02:28:51	mfan168	*bag, fuck
2020-04-18 02:29:10	+meowth	7-0-1
2020-04-18 02:30:34	+Rose	How about Geno and Starlow, they still fit the criteria though their relevancy currently is questionable
2020-04-18 02:30:51	@Anton{Politoed}	I'm a solid No but discussion is valid
2020-04-18 02:31:02	Honoka_Chaosaka	starlow i can see since she basically became the M&L mascot
2020-04-18 02:31:09	mfan168	geno's been dead except in gamefaqs circlejerks
2020-04-18 02:31:11	@Lakituthequick	their relevancy is nonexistent really
2020-04-18 02:31:11	+Rose	Geno is entirely because of Smash speculation at this point, but he is a main character in SMRPG but then Mallow and blagh
2020-04-18 02:31:18	Honoka_Chaosaka	geno... nah, it's not really the same as cappy
2020-04-18 02:31:18	mfan168	i'd be opposed
2020-04-18 02:31:24	+Rose	Starlow has appeared many times in a significant Mario series
2020-04-18 02:31:29	Hooded_Pitohui	I'm am also a now, because unlike King Boo and Nabbit, they don't feel like they have a real chance to reappear
2020-04-18 02:31:34	Honoka_Chaosaka	if he doesn't get in by the time smash u dlc is done geno returns to the wastebin
2020-04-18 02:31:41	mfan168	i'd be fine with starlow though
2020-04-18 02:31:41	Hooded_Pitohui	Not with Alphadream dead
2020-04-18 02:31:52	Honoka_Chaosaka	alphadream more like alphanightmare - wait i've made that joke
2020-04-18 02:32:14	@Lakituthequick	I know Starlow mainly through here appearance in Dragon Problem
2020-04-18 02:32:19	@Lakituthequick	*her
2020-04-18 02:32:21	+Smasher	id actually favor geno over starlow because hes super popular by smash people and starlow i think has a lot of haters? i know i dont care for her at least
2020-04-18 02:32:22	mfan168	there's nothing that says another dev team can't take the m&l series but i digress
2020-04-18 02:32:23	Zange	i wouldnt add either of them
2020-04-18 02:32:24	+Rose	Counterpoint: do we actively expect Toadsworth to return soon
2020-04-18 02:32:29	+Smasher	ultimately i dont think either is needed
2020-04-18 02:33:02	Honoka_Chaosaka	clearly we add starlow to f1
2020-04-18 02:33:10	mfan168	toadsworth, the first mario character to canonically die
2020-04-18 02:33:18	+Rose	I'm for adding both of them but I have more issue in general with Geno because then we have to consider Mallow and then, because they were both main characters, what about that pillow guy from DT and so on etc etc
2020-04-18 02:33:23	@Lakituthequick	what
2020-04-18 02:33:27	@Lakituthequick	when did he die
2020-04-18 02:33:28	Hooded_Pitohui	It's hard to speculate on Toadsworth but he has been in the mainline platformers and multiple subseries
2020-04-18 02:33:41	mfan168	was a joke
2020-04-18 02:33:49	@Lakituthequick	o ok
2020-04-18 02:33:58	Hooded_Pitohui	("when did he die" - Toadsworth is dead, the best mario conspiracy theory)
2020-04-18 02:34:04	@Anton{Politoed}	Vote: Add "Starlow" to M12? (y/n/a)
2020-04-18 02:34:12	Hooded_Pitohui	n
2020-04-18 02:34:15	Honoka_Chaosaka	y
2020-04-18 02:34:17	+Rose	y
2020-04-18 02:34:22	+Smasher	n
2020-04-18 02:34:27	@Lakituthequick	ah, another one of those game theory video's i'm getting
2020-04-18 02:34:29	+Rose	I was scared to say y on the grounds of me being the only y in a sea of a
2020-04-18 02:34:29	Zange	n
2020-04-18 02:34:34	mfan168	n
2020-04-18 02:34:36	Power_Flotzo	n
2020-04-18 02:34:38	@Lakituthequick	a
2020-04-18 02:34:52	@Anton{Politoed}	I haven't exactly seen praise for starlow, and it's Favorite Supporting Character, now A Supporting Character
2020-04-18 02:34:54	@Anton{Politoed}	n
2020-04-18 02:34:58	@Anton{Politoed}	not*
2020-04-18 02:35:17	@Anton{Politoed}	but she's one to keep an eye on
2020-04-18 02:35:45	@Lakituthequick	2-5-1
2020-04-18 02:36:00	@Anton{Politoed}	Vote: Add "Geno" to M12? (y/n/a)
2020-04-18 02:36:03	+Rose	n
2020-04-18 02:36:05	Hooded_Pitohui	n
2020-04-18 02:36:05	Zange	n
2020-04-18 02:36:05	@Lakituthequick	n
2020-04-18 02:36:11	Power_Flotzo	n!
2020-04-18 02:36:13	@Anton{Politoed}	n, all I've seen of him is through smash speculation and I honestly just don't want to entertain that
2020-04-18 02:36:31	mfan168	n
2020-04-18 02:36:32	Honoka_Chaosaka	n
2020-04-18 02:36:33	+Smasher	n
2020-04-18 02:36:38	+Rose	What if he got announced as Smash DLC during voting and then we got a sea of writeins for him
2020-04-18 02:36:40	+Smasher	0-9-0
2020-04-18 02:36:45	@Anton{Politoed}	it's possible
2020-04-18 02:36:47	Honoka_Chaosaka	then he gets to be on the award next year
2020-04-18 02:36:49	mfan168	by that logic all meme characters who haven't actually been relevant are applicable
2020-04-18 02:36:51	Honoka_Chaosaka	but not hthis year
2020-04-18 02:36:52	Power_Flotzo	Not gonna happen.
2020-04-18 02:36:53	+Smasher	if he gets in smash dlc then honestly we'll have to add him then
2020-04-18 02:36:59	+Smasher	but as of right now, nah
2020-04-18 02:37:00	mfan168	we don't need the lanky kong slippery slope
2020-04-18 02:37:09	Honoka_Chaosaka	Favorite Smash DLC Meme award, y/y
2020-04-18 02:37:18	+Rose	Where's my Lanky Kong representation MarioWiki >: (
2020-04-18 02:37:31	Hooded_Pitohui	It all went to Pink DK Jr
2020-04-18 02:37:34	@Anton{Politoed}	M13 Favorite Level Theme (Grassland, Desert, Snow/Ice, Mountain, Underground, Beach, Sky, Jungle, Space/Moon, Fire/Lava, Ghost House, Underwater, Castle, Airship, Factory/Industrial, Carnival, City/Town, Food/Sweets)
2020-04-18 02:37:35	@Anton{Politoed}	 M13 - Favorite Level Theme - The best overall environmental theme of a level.
2020-04-18 02:37:48	@Lakituthequick	16) Mountain - 31 - 2.23%
2020-04-18 02:37:48	@Lakituthequick	17) Underwater - 27 - 1.94%
2020-04-18 02:37:48	@Lakituthequick	18) Underground - 18 - 1.29%
2020-04-18 02:37:48	@Lakituthequick	19) O. Inside Bowser - 3 - 0.22%
2020-04-18 02:37:48	@Lakituthequick	20) O. Toy box - 2 - 0.14%
2020-04-18 02:37:53	Zange	you got lanky kong with m10's pres last year
2020-04-18 02:37:59	+Rose	Mansion /s
2020-04-18 02:38:01	@Lakituthequick	21 is five entries with one vote each
2020-04-18 02:38:01	mfan168	what games had the food/sweets theme
2020-04-18 02:38:11	Honoka_Chaosaka	rose we have mansion
2020-04-18 02:38:13	Honoka_Chaosaka	that's ghosthouse
2020-04-18 02:38:24	+Rose	Fuck
2020-04-18 02:38:29	Honoka_Chaosaka	nsmbu, odyssey both come to min
2020-04-18 02:38:33	Hooded_Pitohui	Sweet Sweet Galaxy, one in Galaxy 2, random 3D land levels, etc, mf
2020-04-18 02:38:45	@Anton{Politoed}	luncheon kingdom 🤮
2020-04-18 02:38:46	mfan168	ah
2020-04-18 02:38:48	+Smasher	don't feel a strong need to do anything with this one
2020-04-18 02:38:53	+Rose	I'm good with it
2020-04-18 02:38:56	Hooded_Pitohui	I wanted to ask, how do the "Night" variants work from SMM2 with this Award? Are they considered variants of the theme they apply to, or are they their own thing?
2020-04-18 02:39:03	+Rose	Variants
2020-04-18 02:39:05	Zange	yeah i think this one's fine
2020-04-18 02:39:15	Honoka_Chaosaka	in fact i'm pretty sure NSMBU is entirely the food theme
2020-04-18 02:39:17	Honoka_Chaosaka	whole way through
2020-04-18 02:39:19	mfan168	luncheon kingdom sounds pretty forgettable
2020-04-18 02:39:32	@Lakituthequick	yeah, they're still the thing they are based on, just with a twist @smm2 night
2020-04-18 02:39:37	@Anton{Politoed}	I wish it was
2020-04-18 02:39:38	+Rose	I hope you're prepared for an unforgettable Luncheon
2020-04-18 02:39:45	@Anton{Politoed}	unfortunately it's where you spend half of the fucking game in smo
2020-04-18 02:40:08	+Smasher	i also think theyre just variants
2020-04-18 02:40:16	@Lakituthequick	where's edo's comic on this
2020-04-18 02:40:25	+Rose	God, where's my Pipe option for those SMB3 levels when it's just pipes
2020-04-18 02:40:31	+Smasher	luncheon is one of the last kingdoms in odyssey and also one of the worst
2020-04-18 02:41:08	@Anton{Politoed}	I'm content with just moving on
2020-04-18 02:41:14	Honoka_Chaosaka	same
2020-04-18 02:41:17	Power_Flotzo	Keep as is.
2020-04-18 02:41:20	mfan168	yeah no changes for this
2020-04-18 02:41:37	Hooded_Pitohui	If the consensus is the night versions are variants, then I'm good with moving on
2020-04-18 02:42:01	+Smasher	!skip
2020-04-18 02:42:07	+Rose	Hey if we type in chat in the order of me, Anton, Smasher, Perch we could spell rash. There's nothing important about that I'm just going stir crazy
2020-04-18 02:42:21	@Anton{Politoed}	M14 Favorite Species (Goombas, Koopa Troopas, Boos, Shy Guys, Chain Chomps, Bob-ombs, Dry Bones, Hammer Bros., Wigglers, Chargin' Chucks, Yoshis, Toads, Lumas, Magikoopas, Pokios, Tostarenans, Humans, Bonneters)
2020-04-18 02:42:23	mfan168	saying that is illegal until you bring back applesbot already
2020-04-18 02:42:24	Zange	well okay then
2020-04-18 02:42:29	Honoka_Chaosaka	smasher i believed i nyou
2020-04-18 02:42:35	@Lakituthequick	15) Bonneters - 20 - 1.41%
2020-04-18 02:42:35	@Lakituthequick	15) Chargin' Chucks - 20 - 1.41%
2020-04-18 02:42:35	@Lakituthequick	17) Tostarenans - 19 - 1.34%
2020-04-18 02:42:35	@Lakituthequick	18) Pokios - 15 - 1.06%
2020-04-18 02:42:35	@Lakituthequick	19) O. Piranha Plants - 6 - 0.42%
2020-04-18 02:42:35	@Lakituthequick	20) O. Toadies - 5 - 0.35%
2020-04-18 02:42:35	@Lakituthequick	21) O. Beanish - 4 - 0.28%
2020-04-18 02:42:35	@Lakituthequick	21) O. Thwomps - 4 - 0.28%
2020-04-18 02:42:43	+Smasher	why would you do this
2020-04-18 02:42:59	Honoka_Chaosaka	i'd be okay with switching in piranha plants
2020-04-18 02:43:05	Honoka_Chaosaka	at the least
2020-04-18 02:43:06	+Rose	Pitohui did you write in Toadies five times
2020-04-18 02:43:06	+Smasher	i was just about to say
2020-04-18 02:43:21	@Anton{Politoed}	I feel we can elevate Piranha Plants and get rid of 17 or 18
2020-04-18 02:43:29	@Anton{Politoed}	I feel both of those are going to fade as smo ages
2020-04-18 02:43:31	+Smasher	considering theyve been around much longer than pokios and smash helped it a lot
2020-04-18 02:43:32	@Lakituthequick	no, only four, as I also wrote them in
2020-04-18 02:43:33	mfan168	piranha plants would probably get a fair boost after-
2020-04-18 02:43:35	Honoka_Chaosaka	yeah
2020-04-18 02:43:37	Hooded_Pitohui	I wrote it in as much as I was able to while complying with the voting rules, Rose
2020-04-18 02:43:50	+Rose	Which ones are the Bonneters again
2020-04-18 02:43:50	Hooded_Pitohui	Also, yeah, I would be willing to move P. Plants up
2020-04-18 02:43:51	mfan168	wait it's been at least a full year since the smash plant dlc
2020-04-18 02:43:52	+Smasher	i also agree with tostarenans not being needed anymore
2020-04-18 02:43:53	mfan168	fuuuuck
2020-04-18 02:43:57	Hooded_Pitohui	Cappy's people, Rose
2020-04-18 02:44:02	+Rose	Right thank you
2020-04-18 02:44:05	Honoka_Chaosaka	i'm down for slicing out /both/ 17 and 18
2020-04-18 02:44:16	Honoka_Chaosaka	not the bonneters yet because they tied with the more long-term viable chucks
2020-04-18 02:44:18	Zange	yeah we could cut one or both of those
2020-04-18 02:44:23	Honoka_Chaosaka	but starting at the bottom
2020-04-18 02:44:28	+Smasher	bonneters can stay for one more year
2020-04-18 02:44:47	+Smasher	if they end up in last next year then itll be time for execution
2020-04-18 02:45:01	@Anton{Politoed}	I kinda want to keep pokios for the novelty of them being a new cool species, whereas tostarenans just kinda were vaguely wobbly mexicans you were free to ignore
2020-04-18 02:45:02	Hooded_Pitohui	I can't say much other than to agree - we'll see if Bonneters fall to fading recency bias
2020-04-18 02:45:15	@Anton{Politoed}	but I'll bring both up for a vote
2020-04-18 02:45:17	@Lakituthequick	i do agree with anton
2020-04-18 02:45:29	+Smasher	i do like pokio far more than tostarenans
2020-04-18 02:45:39	Lord_Bowser	hey im also a vaguely wobbly mexican
2020-04-18 02:45:47	+Smasher	:fatyoshi:
2020-04-18 02:45:48	Honoka_Chaosaka	and that's why we ignore you
2020-04-18 02:45:49	Hooded_Pitohui	Pokios are the best but the voters don't think so apparently
2020-04-18 02:46:11	+Rose	>"time for execution" >DR news coming tomorrow
2020-04-18 02:46:11	+Smasher	the best odyssey nominee finishing in last
2020-04-18 02:46:13	+Smasher	smh
2020-04-18 02:46:15	@Anton{Politoed}	Vote: Remove "Pokios" from M14? (y/n/a)
2020-04-18 02:46:16	+Rose	Smasher do you know something 🤔
2020-04-18 02:46:19	+Rose	n
2020-04-18 02:46:20	@Anton{Politoed}	n
2020-04-18 02:46:21	@Lakituthequick	n
2020-04-18 02:46:28	+Smasher	danganronpa: mario edition
2020-04-18 02:46:29	+Smasher	y
2020-04-18 02:46:30	Power_Flotzo	n
2020-04-18 02:46:32	Zange	n
2020-04-18 02:46:33	Hooded_Pitohui	I don't like it, but
2020-04-18 02:46:34	Hooded_Pitohui	y
2020-04-18 02:46:38	+Smasher	2-5-0
2020-04-18 02:46:43	@Lakituthequick	already exists, it's called killing game
2020-04-18 02:47:38	Honoka_Chaosaka	n
2020-04-18 02:47:53	+Smasher	2-6-0
2020-04-18 02:47:54	+Smasher	scary
2020-04-18 02:48:08	@Anton{Politoed}	Vote: Remove "Tostarenans" from M14? (y/n/a)
2020-04-18 02:48:09	@Anton{Politoed}	y
2020-04-18 02:48:11	Hooded_Pitohui	y
2020-04-18 02:48:11	@Lakituthequick	y
2020-04-18 02:48:17	+Rose	y
2020-04-18 02:48:20	@Anton{Politoed}	here's hoping for super peach odyssey
2020-04-18 02:48:21	Power_Flotzo	y
2020-04-18 02:48:25	Zange	y
2020-04-18 02:48:53	+Smasher	y
2020-04-18 02:48:58	@Anton{Politoed}	where she teams up with a panicked kamek desperate for any kind of help as bowser got kidnapped by the broodals for ruining their business reputation
2020-04-18 02:49:01	+Smasher	theyre worse anyway
2020-04-18 02:49:05	+Smasher	7-0-0
2020-04-18 02:49:08	@Lakituthequick	i just pronounced that as tost-are-nans in my head, help
2020-04-18 02:49:13	Hooded_Pitohui	My dream Mario game, Anton
2020-04-18 02:49:20	Honoka_Chaosaka	y
2020-04-18 02:49:25	+Smasher	8-0-0
2020-04-18 02:49:56	@Anton{Politoed}	Vote: Add "Piranha Plants" to M14? (y/n/a)
2020-04-18 02:49:56	@Anton{Politoed}	y
2020-04-18 02:49:57	+Smasher	y
2020-04-18 02:49:59	+Rose	y
2020-04-18 02:49:59	Hooded_Pitohui	y
2020-04-18 02:50:01	Power_Flotzo	y
2020-04-18 02:50:02	@Lakituthequick	y
2020-04-18 02:50:08	+Smasher	6-0-0
2020-04-18 02:50:29	+Rose	Fire Piranha Plant brings back too many bad memories than it should now and they're entirely self-imposed
2020-04-18 02:50:31	mfan168	y
2020-04-18 02:50:37	@Anton{Politoed}	instead of a toad in each castle it's a toadie
2020-04-18 02:50:40	+Smasher	:blobyoshi:
2020-04-18 02:50:41	Zange	y
2020-04-18 02:50:42	+Smasher	7-0-0
2020-04-18 02:50:43	+Smasher	8-0-0
2020-04-18 02:50:58	Hooded_Pitohui	"instead of a toad in each castle it's a toadie" YES PLEASE - let them do something
2020-04-18 02:51:09	@Lakituthequick	"Mario, IIIIII found your cap iiiin a painting!"
2020-04-18 02:51:37	@Lakituthequick	I just relived that wedding night in KG
2020-04-18 02:51:37	@Anton{Politoed}	toadies serve as the sequel's Capture function
2020-04-18 02:52:02	Honoka_Chaosaka	y
2020-04-18 02:52:07	+Smasher	9-0-0
2020-04-18 02:52:08	+Rose	Rip Toady
2020-04-18 02:52:11	+Smasher	kg was a mistake
2020-04-18 02:52:19	@Anton{Politoed}	M15 Favorite Instrumental Track (Overworld Theme (Super Mario Bros.), Main Theme (Bob-omb Battlefield) (Super Mario 64), Steam Gardens (Super Mario Odyssey), Waluigi Pinball/Wario Stadium (Mario Kart DS), Athletic Theme (Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island), Underground Theme (Super Mario Bros.), Delfino Plaza (Super Mario Sunshine),
2020-04-18 02:52:22	@Anton{Politoed}	Gusty Garden Galaxy (Super Mario Galaxy), The Grand Finale (Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story), Buoy Base Galaxy (Super Mario Galaxy), Rainbow Road (Mario Kart 64), Underwater Theme (Super Mario Bros.), Underground (Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island), Rawk Hawk Battle (Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door), Staff Roll (Super Mario 64),
2020-04-18 02:52:29	@Anton{Politoed}	Regular Battle Theme (Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga), Comet Observatory (Super Mario Galaxy))
2020-04-18 02:52:32	@Lakituthequick	chuck chucks out and add toady /s
2020-04-18 02:52:43	@Lakituthequick	15) Underground (Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island) - 16 - 1.18%
2020-04-18 02:52:43	@Lakituthequick	16) Underground Theme (Super Mario Bros.) - 10 - 0.74%
2020-04-18 02:52:43	@Lakituthequick	16) Underwater Theme (Super Mario Bros.) - 10 - 0.74%
2020-04-18 02:52:43	@Lakituthequick	18) O. Dire, Dire Docks (Super Mario 64) - 8 - 0.59%
2020-04-18 02:52:43	@Lakituthequick	18) O. The Ultimate Show (Super Paper Mario) - 8 - 0.59%
2020-04-18 02:52:43	@Lakituthequick	20) O. Good Egg Galaxy (Super Mario Galaxy) - 6 - 0.44%
2020-04-18 02:53:14	@Anton{Politoed}	we crafted this award fresh last year with our own committee deciding all of the nominees
2020-04-18 02:53:16	+Rose	Question about this one, did we agree not to add Smash tracks because that'd be too much shit to deal with, or were they just not brought up ever
2020-04-18 02:53:19	@Lakituthequick	I do think DDD would make a good addition
2020-04-18 02:53:21	@Anton{Politoed}	so looking at the write-ins is very important
2020-04-18 02:53:21	+Smasher	these are really close numbers
2020-04-18 02:53:31	+Smasher	i think ddd can be added
2020-04-18 02:53:38	Honoka_Chaosaka	DDD definitely gets in
2020-04-18 02:53:42	Honoka_Chaosaka	that one's pretty iconic
2020-04-18 02:53:48	mfan168	ddd?
2020-04-18 02:53:50	@Lakituthequick	here's some more writins
2020-04-18 02:53:52	@Lakituthequick	21) O. Fossil Falls (Super Mario Odyssey) - 5 - 0.37%
2020-04-18 02:53:52	@Lakituthequick	22) O. Adventure's End (Mario & Luigi: Dream Team) - 4 - 0.29%
2020-04-18 02:53:52	@Lakituthequick	22) O. Double Cherry Pass (Super Mario 3D World) - 4 - 0.29%
2020-04-18 02:53:52	@Lakituthequick	22) O. Rainbow Road (Mario Kart 7) - 4 - 0.29%
2020-04-18 02:53:52	@Lakituthequick	22) O. Super Bell Hill (Super Mario 3D World) - 4 - 0.29%
2020-04-18 02:53:53	Honoka_Chaosaka	dire dire docks
2020-04-18 02:53:53	+Smasher	maybe the two smb tracks that flopped can be swapped out for that and ultimate show
2020-04-18 02:53:55	+Smasher	dire dire docks
2020-04-18 02:53:58	Hooded_Pitohui	While I like DDD, why does it get in without The Ult- oh, because it's so well known?
2020-04-18 02:54:00	mfan168	what can that be besides Kingdom Hearts Dre-
2020-04-18 02:54:00	mfan168	ah
2020-04-18 02:54:10	Honoka_Chaosaka	rose: same reason smash character was cut
2020-04-18 02:54:15	Honoka_Chaosaka	also i didn't get to finish but
2020-04-18 02:54:19	Honoka_Chaosaka	i'd say it can pull ultimate show up with it
2020-04-18 02:54:21	Honoka_Chaosaka	due to ties
2020-04-18 02:54:25	+Smasher	yeah
2020-04-18 02:54:25	+Rose	We had a favorite Smash Character award?
2020-04-18 02:54:29	+Smasher	yeah
2020-04-18 02:54:30	Honoka_Chaosaka	yes
2020-04-18 02:54:32	Honoka_Chaosaka	for years
2020-04-18 02:54:34	+Smasher	we cut it a couple years ago
2020-04-18 02:54:35	mfan168	actually question
2020-04-18 02:54:37	Honoka_Chaosaka	then we killed it because it was outside of our scope
2020-04-18 02:54:39	Zange	wew
2020-04-18 02:54:40	+Rose	Anyway I say cut both 16 add both 18
2020-04-18 02:54:45	+Smasher	agreed
2020-04-18 02:54:46	@Anton{Politoed}	people got incredibly angry when I suggested removing all smash content
2020-04-18 02:54:48	Honoka_Chaosaka	i like rose's idea
2020-04-18 02:54:49	Hooded_Pitohui	Agreed
2020-04-18 02:54:56	mfan168	maybe because there's much more instrumental songs available than lyrical but
2020-04-18 02:54:58	@turb	fuck i forgot the meeting was today sorry
2020-04-18 02:55:02	+Rose	Let's add Favorite Smash Remix /s
2020-04-18 02:55:02	Honoka_Chaosaka	it's ok turb
2020-04-18 02:55:05	Honoka_Chaosaka	i forgot today was friday
2020-04-18 02:55:08	+Smasher	who is turb
2020-04-18 02:55:13	@turb	was doing work time and then came back an hour late
2020-04-18 02:55:14	@turb	soz
2020-04-18 02:55:15	mfan168	how come the lyrical category has reps from wario/dk but not this one
2020-04-18 02:55:24	Honoka_Chaosaka	it's open to the option
2020-04-18 02:55:36	Honoka_Chaosaka	it's just none of them scored high enough on our committee crafting for us to add them
2020-04-18 02:55:41	+Smasher	for what its worth im 90% sure i voted for dk island swing
2020-04-18 02:55:43	Honoka_Chaosaka	because there are a shitfuckload of these
2020-04-18 02:55:44	@Lakituthequick	Good question
2020-04-18 02:55:44	@Anton{Politoed}	I'm surprised by M15's vote structure though
2020-04-18 02:55:52	+Rose	... maybe that's the way we make the three award rotation not stagnant when the time comes
2020-04-18 02:55:52	mfan168	idk, jungle level is pretty iconic
2020-04-18 02:55:52	@Lakituthequick	DK has good music
2020-04-18 02:55:55	@Anton{Politoed}	I would've expected Overworld (SM) to be like
2020-04-18 02:55:57	@Anton{Politoed}	near first
2020-04-18 02:56:00	Honoka_Chaosaka	huh
2020-04-18 02:56:02	@turb	i think there were dk and wario songs suggested at the time of the creation
2020-04-18 02:56:05	Honoka_Chaosaka	that is... an interesting idea, rose
2020-04-18 02:56:16	@turb	but it's been a while
2020-04-18 02:56:20	Honoka_Chaosaka	interesting in a good way not a "i have nothing good to say about it" way
2020-04-18 02:56:21	@Anton{Politoed}	and Underground and Underwater placing much higher as they're pretty iconic in western culture in general
2020-04-18 02:56:28	@Anton{Politoed}	but alas
2020-04-18 02:56:32	Hooded_Pitohui	That is a genuinely good idea to look into, Rose
2020-04-18 02:56:45	Honoka_Chaosaka	https://www.marioboards.com/threads/40904/ yeah
2020-04-18 02:56:49	Honoka_Chaosaka	checking the thread
2020-04-18 02:56:50	Hooded_Pitohui	Considering how packed this Award already is
2020-04-18 02:56:52	+Smasher	that's a legitimately good idea
2020-04-18 02:56:52	Honoka_Chaosaka	there were dk suggestions
2020-04-18 02:57:01	Honoka_Chaosaka	they just did not do well enough to make it onto the award proper
2020-04-18 02:57:10	+Smasher	dk island swing should have made it smh
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2020-04-18 02:57:18	+Smasher	i think i even wrote it is
2020-04-18 02:57:20	+Smasher	in*
2020-04-18 02:57:21	@turb	i'm guessing people were voting based off the 8 bit versions and not the leitmotif that's carried around throughout games which is why their placing was so bad
2020-04-18 02:57:35	+Rose	There's so much shit that can be packed into this word lmao
2020-04-18 02:57:40	+Rose	*award
2020-04-18 02:57:45	@Anton{Politoed}	what's the suggestion for rotation
2020-04-18 02:58:05	Honoka_Chaosaka	that we do best dk/yoshi/wario instrumental piece and sift them out of this
2020-04-18 02:58:06	@turb	i have to leave for another minute again so if there's a vote to add dire dire dicks i hope i don't miss it
2020-04-18 02:58:24	+Rose	Turb's feeling dire over dicks
2020-04-18 02:58:29	+Smasher	oh i thought he meant for the vote for this one
2020-04-18 02:58:29	@Anton{Politoed}	oh so it's to make that one of the m5-7 rotations and not a song award rotation, ok
2020-04-18 02:58:34	Honoka_Chaosaka	yeah
2020-04-18 02:58:35	Zange	turb that is the worlds greatest typo lmao
2020-04-18 02:58:35	+Smasher	yeah
2020-04-18 02:58:40	Hooded_Pitohui	If I'm parsing it correctly, it's to replace the Wario/DK/Yoshi Award we were worried about getting stagnant with a Wario, yeah
2020-04-18 02:58:40	@turb	it was intentional
2020-04-18 02:58:42	@turb	its ok
2020-04-18 02:58:44	+Smasher	dire dire dicks :fuck:
2020-04-18 02:58:53	Honoka_Chaosaka	like how we split off the levels from the 2d/3d levels for rotation
2020-04-18 02:59:03	@Anton{Politoed}	I'll put it in my notes
2020-04-18 02:59:32	@Lakituthequick	so that would add a fourth to the rotation
2020-04-18 02:59:37	+Rose	Anyway my suggestion earlier still stands, kill both 16 add both 18
2020-04-18 02:59:43	@Lakituthequick	with it next year probably
2020-04-18 02:59:49	@Lakituthequick	if it passes that is
2020-04-18 03:00:00	@Anton{Politoed}	we can develop this idea this year to see if anything pans out
2020-04-18 03:00:15	@Anton{Politoed}	at the least, it would provide a ground for it to be shifted in next year
2020-04-18 03:00:32	+Smasher	yeah i still support killing underground/water for dire dire dicks/ultimate show
2020-04-18 03:00:39	@Lakituthequick	also yes, nuke both 16, add ddd, unsure about ultimate show
2020-04-18 03:00:50	@Anton{Politoed}	Vote: Remove "Underground Theme (Super Mario Bros.)" and "Underwater Theme (Super Mario Bros.)" from M15? (y/n/a)
2020-04-18 03:00:52	Honoka_Chaosaka	y
2020-04-18 03:00:53	+Smasher	y
2020-04-18 03:00:54	+Rose	Ultimate Show has the same number of votes I don't see a reason not to
2020-04-18 03:00:55	+Rose	y
2020-04-18 03:00:57	@Lakituthequick	y
2020-04-18 03:00:58	+Smasher	^
2020-04-18 03:00:59	Hooded_Pitohui	y
2020-04-18 03:01:02	+Smasher	5-0-0
2020-04-18 03:01:03	Zange	y
2020-04-18 03:01:06	+Smasher	6-0-0
2020-04-18 03:01:08	Honoka_Chaosaka	send them both to the shadow realm
2020-04-18 03:01:10	Power_Flotzo	y (even if it kills me...)
2020-04-18 03:01:14	+Smasher	7-0-0
2020-04-18 03:01:16	@Lakituthequick	i'm just less familiar  with it is all
2020-04-18 03:01:32	+Rose	It's a fan favorite from the PM series in my experience
2020-04-18 03:01:33	@Lakituthequick	i.e. not
2020-04-18 03:01:51	@Lakituthequick	sure, do add it
2020-04-18 03:01:55	Hooded_Pitohui	Considering how much it's already been parroted, someone's going to write in Dire Dire Docks with Turb's typo - I have no doubt of this
2020-04-18 03:02:12	@Anton{Politoed}	Vote: Add "Dire, Dire Docks (Super Mario 64)" to M15? (y/n/a)
2020-04-18 03:02:12	Hooded_Pitohui	Not that that's a good idea
2020-04-18 03:02:16	Hooded_Pitohui	y
2020-04-18 03:02:16	+Rose	y
2020-04-18 03:02:19	Power_Flotzo	y
2020-04-18 03:02:20	@Lakituthequick	y
2020-04-18 03:02:22	Zange	y
2020-04-18 03:02:26	+Smasher	y
2020-04-18 03:02:33	+Smasher	6-0-0
2020-04-18 03:02:38	mfan168	y
2020-04-18 03:02:40	+Smasher	turb vote for dire dire dircks
2020-04-18 03:02:42	+Smasher	dicks
2020-04-18 03:02:47	+Smasher	7-0-0
2020-04-18 03:02:51	+Rose	dircks
2020-04-18 03:02:51	@Lakituthequick	I'll be honest
2020-04-18 03:03:02	mfan168	dire dire dirk striders
2020-04-18 03:03:15	Honoka_Chaosaka	y
2020-04-18 03:03:21	+Smasher	8-0-0
2020-04-18 03:03:21	@Lakituthequick	I wrote in "Turb & Smasher" a couple years ago for Wario character after it turned up in chat
2020-04-18 03:03:29	Honoka_Chaosaka	so it was you!
2020-04-18 03:03:29	+Smasher	LOL
2020-04-18 03:03:32	@Lakituthequick	yes
2020-04-18 03:03:35	@Lakituthequick	't was i
2020-04-18 03:03:39	Honoka_Chaosaka	now i'm just remembering Smasher's Dial-Up Kong
2020-04-18 03:03:48	Honoka_Chaosaka	and also that fan favorite, Fuck-Ass Bitch Kong
2020-04-18 03:03:55	@Lakituthequick	that wasnt me
2020-04-18 03:03:58	@Anton{Politoed}	Vote: Add "The Ultimate Show (Super Paper Mario)" to M15? (y/n/a)
2020-04-18 03:04:00	Honoka_Chaosaka	y
2020-04-18 03:04:00	+Rose	He's the leader of the bunch, you know him well
2020-04-18 03:04:01	Hooded_Pitohui	y
2020-04-18 03:04:01	+Smasher	y
2020-04-18 03:04:02	+Rose	y
2020-04-18 03:04:05	Zange	a
2020-04-18 03:04:09	+Smasher	4-0-1
2020-04-18 03:04:09	@Lakituthequick	a
2020-04-18 03:04:10	Power_Flotzo	y
2020-04-18 03:04:14	@turb	a
2020-04-18 03:04:14	+Smasher	5-0-2
2020-04-18 03:04:17	+Smasher	5-0-3
2020-04-18 03:04:18	+Rose	Zange you were Dimentio in KG c'mon now
2020-04-18 03:04:28	+Smasher	youve missed your chance turb
2020-04-18 03:04:38	@turb	as long as it got in
2020-04-18 03:04:38	Zange	oh heck you right
2020-04-18 03:04:42	Zange	changing to y
2020-04-18 03:04:43	+Smasher	it did
2020-04-18 03:04:47	+Smasher	6-0-2
2020-04-18 03:05:56	@Anton{Politoed}	Vote: Swap out "Underground (Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island)" with "Good Egg Galaxy (Super Mario Galaxy)" in M15? (y/n/a)
2020-04-18 03:06:03	Honoka_Chaosaka	hmmm
2020-04-18 03:06:03	@Anton{Politoed}	if we were to proceed this would be the next stop
2020-04-18 03:06:16	Honoka_Chaosaka	n, imo
2020-04-18 03:06:18	+Rose	I don't even remember what underground sounds like
2020-04-18 03:06:27	+Smasher	i dont either
2020-04-18 03:06:28	Honoka_Chaosaka	yi underground did better, i'm willign to give it once more shot
2020-04-18 03:06:32	@Anton{Politoed}	dodododododo
2020-04-18 03:06:40	Honoka_Chaosaka	dodo do do dooooooo
2020-04-18 03:06:41	+Smasher	and i played it pretty recently
2020-04-18 03:06:42	Hooded_Pitohui	I'd put a no to that, because there's still some spread in the votes between those
2020-04-18 03:06:48	+Smasher	a
2020-04-18 03:06:49	@Lakituthequick	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwU1ETTrvPc
2020-04-18 03:06:52	Hooded_Pitohui	If it doesn't do well again, then next year it can be swapped
2020-04-18 03:06:55	@turb	n
2020-04-18 03:07:01	+Smasher	0-3-1
2020-04-18 03:07:13	Zange	a
2020-04-18 03:07:16	@Lakituthequick	a
2020-04-18 03:07:21	+Rose	Yo this track is killer shame I don't really know it
2020-04-18 03:07:23	+Rose	Also a
2020-04-18 03:07:23	+Smasher	0-3-3
2020-04-18 03:07:24	Power_Flotzo	a
2020-04-18 03:07:27	+Smasher	0-3-5
2020-04-18 03:07:56	+Smasher	think we can just discard it since no one seems to want it
2020-04-18 03:08:05	+Smasher	this swap i men
2020-04-18 03:08:07	+Smasher	mean
2020-04-18 03:08:18	+Rose	Just through out the track altogether
2020-04-18 03:08:21	+Rose	*throw
2020-04-18 03:08:22	+Rose	God
2020-04-18 03:08:42	@Anton{Politoed}	M16 Favorite Item (Tanooki Suit/Statue Leaf, Super Leaf, Super Star, Fire Flower, Mega Mushroom, Metal Cap, Wing Cap, Bullet Bill, Propeller Mushroom, Penguin Suit, Cloud Flower, Cape Feather, Gold Flower, Super Bell, Double Cherry, Mystery Mushroom, Motor Scooter, Hammer Suit, Super Crown)
2020-04-18 03:08:58	@Lakituthequick	16) Super Crown - 36 - 2.58%
2020-04-18 03:08:58	@Lakituthequick	16) Wing Cap - 36 - 2.58%
2020-04-18 03:08:58	@Lakituthequick	18) Bullet Bill - 25 - 1.79%
2020-04-18 03:08:58	@Lakituthequick	19) Motor Scooter - 23 - 1.65%
2020-04-18 03:08:58	@Lakituthequick	20) O. Blue Shell - 10 - 0.72%
2020-04-18 03:08:58	@Lakituthequick	21) O. Ice Flower - 7 - 0.50%
2020-04-18 03:08:58	@Lakituthequick	22) O. Red Star - 6 - 0.43%
2020-04-18 03:09:18	@Anton{Politoed}	this award has 19 because ???????????? so I want to chop
2020-04-18 03:09:26	@Lakituthequick	w
2020-04-18 03:09:26	@Anton{Politoed}	but the votes are close
2020-04-18 03:09:32	@Lakituthequick	19 how
2020-04-18 03:09:33	@turb	oops
2020-04-18 03:09:36	Honoka_Chaosaka	probably slippd through the cracks
2020-04-18 03:09:37	Zange	how does it have 19 wtf
2020-04-18 03:09:43	+Smasher	Oops!
2020-04-18 03:09:44	Honoka_Chaosaka	i'd say we can kill motor scooter and bullet bill
2020-04-18 03:09:49	@Lakituthequick	we did it boys, 18 limit is no more
2020-04-18 03:09:49	@Anton{Politoed}	I think with polldaddy changing into crowdsource it allowed for the room
2020-04-18 03:09:55	@turb	yeah
2020-04-18 03:09:58	+Smasher	honestly i would be ok with killing both the bottom two
2020-04-18 03:09:59	Hooded_Pitohui	I would advise killing the Motor Scooter and Bullet Bill, as well
2020-04-18 03:10:02	+Rose	Scooter isn't going to have any relevancy this year is what I'm feeling
2020-04-18 03:10:05	@Lakituthequick	let's add everything we previously discarded
2020-04-18 03:10:07	Honoka_Chaosaka	who's ready for INFINITE NOMINEES
2020-04-18 03:10:10	@turb	i didn't realize the limit got undone
2020-04-18 03:10:12	Zange	oh dear lord
2020-04-18 03:10:25	@turb	the bullet is pretty weak in general even with the scooter losing relevancy so I'm ok with both being gone
2020-04-18 03:10:30	+Rose	Finally we can add that healing herb from M&L into the list
2020-04-18 03:10:38	+Smasher	quick, let's add everything that's ever been an item in any mario game
2020-04-18 03:10:40	Power_Flotzo	Motor Scooter doesn't satisfy the definition of a power-up for me. I'm all for axing it.
2020-04-18 03:10:52	@Anton{Politoed}	Vote: Remove "Motor Scooter" from M16? (y/n/a)
2020-04-18 03:10:54	Zange	but yeah axe 'em both
2020-04-18 03:10:55	Hooded_Pitohui	y
2020-04-18 03:10:56	@Lakituthequick	it's fav item, not fav powerup
2020-04-18 03:10:56	+Rose	y
2020-04-18 03:10:56	Zange	y
2020-04-18 03:11:05	Power_Flotzo	y
2020-04-18 03:11:07	Honoka_Chaosaka	y
2020-04-18 03:11:11	@Lakituthequick	still though 
2020-04-18 03:11:11	@Lakituthequick	y
2020-04-18 03:11:15	@turb	y
2020-04-18 03:11:20	+Smasher	y'
2020-04-18 03:11:33	+Smasher	8-0-0
2020-04-18 03:11:37	@Anton{Politoed}	Vote: Remove "Bullet Bill" from M16? (y/n/a)
2020-04-18 03:11:39	@turb	y
2020-04-18 03:11:41	+Rose	a
2020-04-18 03:11:49	+Smasher	y
2020-04-18 03:11:50	Zange	y
2020-04-18 03:11:51	@Lakituthequick	a
2020-04-18 03:11:56	+Smasher	3-0-2
2020-04-18 03:12:00	Power_Flotzo	y
2020-04-18 03:12:04	Hooded_Pitohui	y
2020-04-18 03:12:11	+Smasher	5-0-2
2020-04-18 03:12:14	@Anton{Politoed}	brb as a huge noise just happened
2020-04-18 03:12:19	+Smasher	horrifying
2020-04-18 03:12:24	Zange	uh oh;;;
2020-04-18 03:12:34	@Lakituthequick	for all we know it really is horrifying
2020-04-18 03:12:36	Power_Flotzo	Oh the humanity!
2020-04-18 03:12:43	+Rose	It's the sound of a bullet bill crashing through your wall in defiance
2020-04-18 03:13:09	@Lakituthequick	all of these jokes are going to be in bad taste if something like a car crashed
2020-04-18 03:13:37	Hooded_Pitohui	Oh, perfect timing, I also got distracted because I'm in an exchange of aggressively shouting My Fair Lady quotes back and forth
2020-04-18 03:13:39	@Anton{Politoed}	everything's fine
2020-04-18 03:13:46	+Smasher	:blobmorning:
2020-04-18 03:13:50	@Anton{Politoed}	throwback to the meeting I had to abandon because of gunshots outside
2020-04-18 03:13:59	+Smasher	oh
2020-04-18 03:13:59	@turb	I forgot about that one
2020-04-18 03:14:04	+Rose	My Fair Lady is bad is that a hot take
2020-04-18 03:14:06	@Lakituthequick	when was that
2020-04-18 03:14:07	Zange	oh yikes ;;;;;
2020-04-18 03:14:08	Hooded_Pitohui	That's... that's something
2020-04-18 03:14:25	@Anton{Politoed}	like
2020-04-18 03:14:28	@Anton{Politoed}	 7 years ago
2020-04-18 03:14:32	+Rose	Wew
2020-04-18 03:14:45	+Smasher	forgot all about that
2020-04-18 03:14:58	Lord_Bowser	norma is crafting a terrarium if anyone wants
2020-04-18 03:15:03	Lord_Bowser	oops wrong channel
2020-04-18 03:15:09	Zange	someone's gonna look at these logs later and be so confused how we got here
2020-04-18 03:15:23	@Anton{Politoed}	anyways are there any items from the new games that anyone desperately wants to add
2020-04-18 03:15:28	@Anton{Politoed}	did lm3 add something cool
2020-04-18 03:15:34	@Anton{Politoed}	we'll address gooigi later maybe
2020-04-18 03:15:35	Power_Flotzo	Another chatroom moment for the books.
2020-04-18 03:15:36	+Smasher	havent played it
2020-04-18 03:15:40	+Rose	It added glasses that fall over and I think that's important
2020-04-18 03:15:58	Hooded_Pitohui	Hmm... nothing comes to mind as real LM3 additions
2020-04-18 03:16:00	+Rose	Wait
2020-04-18 03:16:03	+Smasher	only if we add it as Glasses That Fall Over
2020-04-18 03:16:06	+Rose	What does Gooigi count as
2020-04-18 03:16:24	@Anton{Politoed}	Favorite Thot Award
2020-04-18 03:16:34	Hooded_Pitohui	Gooigi is, if anything, more of a FLUDD or Cappy, to me?
2020-04-18 03:16:38	@Anton{Politoed}	probably game mechanic
2020-04-18 03:16:41	 *	Rose looks at Supporting Character in panic 
2020-04-18 03:17:01	Honoka_Chaosaka	gooigi feels like he'd have a shot at supporting character but i'd want to see how the writeins this year look
2020-04-18 03:17:04	Hooded_Pitohui	Oh huh
2020-04-18 03:17:14	Honoka_Chaosaka	unlike cappy i don't think it's strong enough to go in right now
2020-04-18 03:17:16	@Lakituthequick	just went to the bathroom to get water though a dark hallway while yoshi island underground was still playing through my headphones
2020-04-18 03:17:19	Hooded_Pitohui	Gooigi as favorite supporting character makes a lot of sense to me
2020-04-18 03:17:21	@Lakituthequick	how fitting
2020-04-18 03:17:35	+Smasher	i was GOING to ask about gooigi for supporting character but got distracting
2020-04-18 03:17:46	+Rose	Smasher stop distracting people
2020-04-18 03:17:49	+Smasher	i dont feel strongly about it though
2020-04-18 03:17:53	+Smasher	distracted'
2020-04-18 03:17:54	+Smasher	fuck
2020-04-18 03:17:58	@Lakituthequick	gooigi is just luigi but with a weakness to water and fire right
2020-04-18 03:18:03	@turb	lm3 didn't add any new items that weren't already in lm2 that i'm aware of
2020-04-18 03:18:09	@Anton{Politoed}	did dr baby daisy world add anything new and relevant
2020-04-18 03:18:10	@Lakituthequick	also walks through walls
2020-04-18 03:18:25	Hooded_Pitohui	"gooigi is just luigi but with a weakness to water and fire right" Kind of? They also gave him unique reactions and animations, though
2020-04-18 03:18:25	Zange	would it have?
2020-04-18 03:18:40	+Smasher	anyway i dont really want to add anything new to this unless we want to throw a write in like blue shell in
2020-04-18 03:18:46	+Rose	It added Dr. Baby Daisy who should definitely be in Supporting Character
2020-04-18 03:19:12	@Lakituthequick	by removing motor scooter we did return the balance to the polls
2020-04-18 03:19:29	@Lakituthequick	insert thanos meme here
2020-04-18 03:19:32	+Smasher	fuck that rose
2020-04-18 03:19:34	+Rose	I don't think anybody is going to be miffed about Blue Shell not being an option
2020-04-18 03:19:34	Zange	harmony in m16 once again
2020-04-18 03:19:36	+Smasher	dr fire rosalina
2020-04-18 03:19:43	+Rose	Is that a character
2020-04-18 03:19:47	Hooded_Pitohui	She is
2020-04-18 03:19:49	+Smasher	apparently
2020-04-18 03:19:56	@turb	https://www.mariowiki.com/Dr._Mario_World#Items_and_objects
2020-04-18 03:19:56	Zange	oh dear
2020-04-18 03:19:57	+Rose	Why
2020-04-18 03:19:58	@turb	it's all trash
2020-04-18 03:20:12	Hooded_Pitohui	But, no, I don't know of any character or items worth anything from Dr. Mario World (except Dr. Kamek)
2020-04-18 03:20:23	@Lakituthequick	wow, staff tickets
2020-04-18 03:20:23	@Anton{Politoed}	M17 Favorite Mario RPG (Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars, Paper Mario, Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time, Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, Super Paper Mario, Paper Mario: Sticker Star, Mario & Luigi: Dream Team, Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Bros. Edition,
2020-04-18 03:20:25	@Anton{Politoed}	 Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam, Paper Mario: Color Splash, Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle)
2020-04-18 03:20:30	+Smasher	mfw dr kamek
2020-04-18 03:20:33	@Anton{Politoed}	this award is all-encompassing
2020-04-18 03:20:42	@Lakituthequick	10) Paper Mario: Color Splash - 48 - 3.37%
2020-04-18 03:20:42	@Lakituthequick	11) Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam - 33 - 2.32%
2020-04-18 03:20:42	@Lakituthequick	12) Paper Mario: Sticker Star - 19 - 1.33%
2020-04-18 03:20:42	@Lakituthequick	13) Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Bros. Edition - 18 - 1.26%
2020-04-18 03:20:54	@Anton{Politoed}	afaik there's no new rpgs
2020-04-18 03:20:56	+Smasher	do we do anything lol
2020-04-18 03:20:58	@Lakituthequick	also yes, no writeins and such
2020-04-18 03:21:01	+Rose	It's good as is
2020-04-18 03:21:04	@Lakituthequick	can skip safely probably
2020-04-18 03:21:08	+Smasher	i remember no rpgs
2020-04-18 03:21:10	Hooded_Pitohui	No new RPGs, so it's skippable
2020-04-18 03:21:18	@turb	unless there were suddenly 8 new rpgs releasing before awards time this is fine
2020-04-18 03:21:18	+Smasher	no new rpgs even
2020-04-18 03:21:19	Zange	skip
2020-04-18 03:21:21	mfan168	i forgot puzzles and dragons existed lmao
2020-04-18 03:21:24	@Anton{Politoed}	M18 Favorite Mario Party Game (Mario Party, Mario Party 2, Mario Party 3, Mario Party 4, Mario Party 5, Mario Party 6, Mario Party Advance, Mario Party 7, Mario Party DS, Mario Party 8, Mario Party 9, Mario Party: Island Tour, Mario Party 10, Mario Party: Star Rush, Mario Party: The Top 100, Super Mario Party)
2020-04-18 03:21:25	+Smasher	!skip
2020-04-18 03:21:26	@Anton{Politoed}	and likewise
2020-04-18 03:21:33	@Lakituthequick	12) Mario Party: The Top 100 - 31 - 2.29%
2020-04-18 03:21:33	@Lakituthequick	14) Mario Party: Star Rush - 17 - 1.25%
2020-04-18 03:21:33	@Lakituthequick	15) Mario Party: Island Tour - 16 - 1.18%
2020-04-18 03:21:33	@Lakituthequick	16) Mario Party Advance - 11 - 0.81%
2020-04-18 03:21:38	@Lakituthequick	also same
2020-04-18 03:21:42	+Smasher	that was to the other one but really
2020-04-18 03:21:44	+Smasher	!skip
2020-04-18 03:21:46	Zange	skiiip
2020-04-18 03:21:51	Hooded_Pitohui	Add that Mario Party Board Game[/s]
2020-04-18 03:21:54	Honoka_Chaosaka	skip
2020-04-18 03:22:04	@Lakituthequick	there is a board game?
2020-04-18 03:22:09	@Lakituthequick	I mean
2020-04-18 03:22:11	+Smasher	there's a board game???
2020-04-18 03:22:12	Hooded_Pitohui	One with cards and the E-reader, yeah
2020-04-18 03:22:13	Zange	actually wait
2020-04-18 03:22:15	@Lakituthequick	it doesnt surprise me
2020-04-18 03:22:19	Zange	mario party e exists
2020-04-18 03:22:20	Hooded_Pitohui	But you can play it as a standalone game
2020-04-18 03:22:24	+Smasher	oh the e reader one
2020-04-18 03:22:27	+Smasher	i forgot about that
2020-04-18 03:22:32	mfan168	add mario monopoly goddamnit
2020-04-18 03:22:38	+Smasher	does anyone care about it enough
2020-04-18 03:22:57	@Anton{Politoed}	M19 Favorite Villain (Bowser, Kamek, King K. Rool, Dimentio, Bowser Jr., King Boo, Count Bleck, Cackletta, Fawful, Wart, Sir Grodus, Shadow Queen, Lord Crump, Captain Syrup, Shroobs, Koopa Bros.)
2020-04-18 03:23:01	Hooded_Pitohui	I mean, I have the whole thing sans the actual E-Reader, but, in all seriousness, no
2020-04-18 03:23:15	mfan168	what's lord crump from
2020-04-18 03:23:17	@Lakituthequick	13) Koopa Bros. - 21 - 1.45%
2020-04-18 03:23:17	@Lakituthequick	13) Lord Crump - 21 - 1.45%
2020-04-18 03:23:17	@Lakituthequick	15) Wart - 19 - 1.31%
2020-04-18 03:23:17	@Lakituthequick	16) Sir Grodus - 15 - 1.04%
2020-04-18 03:23:17	@Lakituthequick	17) O. Waluigi - 8 - 0.55%
2020-04-18 03:23:17	@Lakituthequick	18) O. Koopalings - 7 - 0.48%
2020-04-18 03:23:17	@Lakituthequick	19) O. Ludwig von Koopa - 5 - 0.35%
2020-04-18 03:23:17	@Lakituthequick	19) O. Smithy - 5 - 0.35%
2020-04-18 03:23:21	+Smasher	ttyd
2020-04-18 03:23:21	Hooded_Pitohui	TTYD
2020-04-18 03:23:32	mfan168	that explains it
2020-04-18 03:23:40	@Anton{Politoed}	the award is at 16 already so I don't really want to add anything unless it's necessary
2020-04-18 03:23:56	Zange	we can probably leave it as is
2020-04-18 03:23:58	@Anton{Politoed}	waluigi is the highest write-in but I don't feel it would be fair to include him among the others
2020-04-18 03:23:59	+Smasher	im not really feeling any cuts or writeins
2020-04-18 03:24:00	Honoka_Chaosaka	nobody's coming to mind
2020-04-18 03:24:00	@Lakituthequick	waluigi is probably mostly a meme
2020-04-18 03:24:05	@Anton{Politoed}	he would absorb a lot of votes by name only
2020-04-18 03:24:07	Honoka_Chaosaka	yeah, waluigi is an /antagonist/ but not a /villain/
2020-04-18 03:24:09	+Smasher	i dont think waluigi truly qualifies
2020-04-18 03:24:11	mfan168	Fuck You Ludwig
2020-04-18 03:24:14	mfan168	let's move on
2020-04-18 03:24:14	+Rose	I assume Antasma was on there years ago
2020-04-18 03:24:18	Hooded_Pitohui	The only one who comes to mind is Hellen but I don't think she'd be popular enough to be worth adding, when King Boo is more well-known anyways
2020-04-18 03:24:21	@turb	let me go find the deifnition
2020-04-18 03:24:34	@turb	i'm not sure antasma was ever on here because i've only met like 2 people in the world who know who he is
2020-04-18 03:24:48	+Rose	Huh, strange
2020-04-18 03:24:54	+Smasher	i dont really want koopalings as a single entry and i wouldnt want to bother with picking one
2020-04-18 03:24:58	@turb	The best Mario series or Mario spin-off series villain or nefarious group, major or minor. This award takes into account their role in the story, their actions, boss battles, and overall characterization.
2020-04-18 03:25:00	@turb	so yeah
2020-04-18 03:25:27	+Rose	I actually don't see the harm in adding Koopalings as a collective unit but I'm fine with them staying off too
2020-04-18 03:25:28	@turb	the closest waluigi got to being a villain was ddr
2020-04-18 03:25:41	@turb	it does allow for groups so it would be allowed
2020-04-18 03:25:44	@turb	i'm ambivalent
2020-04-18 03:25:48	Hooded_Pitohui	Well, Mario Tennis Ac- no he was possessed, nevermind
2020-04-18 03:26:16	+Smasher	oh yeah actually i forgot that groups were allowed here
2020-04-18 03:26:24	+Smasher	i dont really feel strongly about them though
2020-04-18 03:26:31	@Lakituthequick	good one, Lucien
2020-04-18 03:26:37	@Lakituthequick	but it
2020-04-18 03:26:41	@Lakituthequick	 s just a racket
2020-04-18 03:26:49	+Rose	They do all have defined characteristics and plenty of boss battles
2020-04-18 03:27:38	@Anton{Politoed}	I'm fine with moving on
2020-04-18 03:27:50	@Lakituthequick	y
2020-04-18 03:27:58	Hooded_Pitohui	I am also fine with that
2020-04-18 03:28:05	+Smasher	yeah
2020-04-18 03:28:14	@turb	yeah
2020-04-18 03:28:26	Zange	yea
2020-04-18 03:28:28	@Anton{Politoed}	M20 Favorite Sports Game (Mario Tennis (N64), Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour, Mario Power Tennis, Mario Superstar Baseball, Mario Strikers Charged, Mario Hoops 3-on-3, Mario Sports Mix, Super Mario Strikers, Mario Super Sluggers, Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games, Mario Tennis Open, Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games, Mario Golf: World Tour,
2020-04-18 03:28:29	@Anton{Politoed}	Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash, Mario Sports Superstars, Mario Tennis Aces)
2020-04-18 03:28:32	@Lakituthequick	14) Mario Sports Superstars - 22 - 1.77%
2020-04-18 03:28:32	@Lakituthequick	15) Mario Tennis Open - 17 - 1.37%
2020-04-18 03:28:32	@Lakituthequick	16) Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash - 12 - 0.97%
2020-04-18 03:28:32	@Lakituthequick	17) O. Mario Golf (N64) - 4 - 0.32%
2020-04-18 03:28:33	@Lakituthequick	18) O. Mario Golf: Advance Tour - 3 - 0.24%
2020-04-18 03:28:33	@Lakituthequick	19) O. Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games - 2 - 0.16%
2020-04-18 03:28:33	@Lakituthequick	19) O. Mario Golf (GBC) - 2 - 0.16%
2020-04-18 03:28:57	mfan168	add mario and sonic at the 2021 olympic games
2020-04-18 03:28:57	@Lakituthequick	not too exciting i guess
2020-04-18 03:29:03	@turb	add tokyo olympics in place of ultra smash if we replace
2020-04-18 03:29:06	@turb	otherwise just add it
2020-04-18 03:29:18	+Smasher	im ok with swapping them
2020-04-18 03:29:18	Honoka_Chaosaka	i'm okay dropping ultra smash
2020-04-18 03:29:21	Hooded_Pitohui	Per Turb on this one
2020-04-18 03:29:22	Honoka_Chaosaka	when it went That Lone
2020-04-18 03:29:26	+Smasher	i dont think anyone likes ultra smash
2020-04-18 03:29:27	@Lakituthequick	yeah, per tokio
2020-04-18 03:29:56	@Lakituthequick	i like that it seems to have a high quality model of lakitu
2020-04-18 03:30:07	@Lakituthequick	i don't like that nobody ripped it yet
2020-04-18 03:31:01	@Anton{Politoed}	Vote: Add "Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games Tokyo 2020" to M20? (y/n/a)
2020-04-18 03:31:13	Zange	y
2020-04-18 03:31:14	+Rose	y
2020-04-18 03:31:15	@Lakituthequick	y
2020-04-18 03:31:19	Power_Flotzo	y
2020-04-18 03:31:20	@turb	y
2020-04-18 03:31:21	mfan168	y
2020-04-18 03:31:22	Hooded_Pitohui	y
2020-04-18 03:31:31	+Smasher	y
2020-04-18 03:31:40	+Smasher	8-0-0
2020-04-18 03:32:27	Honoka_Chaosaka	yy
2020-04-18 03:32:30	@Anton{Politoed}	I think we can leave ultra smash on there to watch it get trashed again but
2020-04-18 03:32:40	@Anton{Politoed}	Vote: Remove "Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash" from M20? (y/n/a)
2020-04-18 03:32:43	@Lakituthequick	y
2020-04-18 03:32:44	@turb	a
2020-04-18 03:32:45	Honoka_Chaosaka	y
2020-04-18 03:32:45	Hooded_Pitohui	y
2020-04-18 03:32:55	Zange	a
2020-04-18 03:33:02	mfan168	y
2020-04-18 03:33:08	Power_Flotzo	y
2020-04-18 03:33:09	+Smasher	y
2020-04-18 03:33:19	+Smasher	9-0-0 m&s
2020-04-18 03:33:27	+Smasher	6-0-2 us
2020-04-18 03:33:33	+Rose	a
2020-04-18 03:33:42	+Smasher	6-0-3
2020-04-18 03:33:53	@Anton{Politoed}	anything else for this award?
2020-04-18 03:33:57	Honoka_Chaosaka	i got none
2020-04-18 03:34:13	Hooded_Pitohui	I see nothing else in need of change
2020-04-18 03:34:15	+Smasher	im ready to move on
2020-04-18 03:34:21	@Lakituthequick	!continue
2020-04-18 03:35:20	@Anton{Politoed}	M21 Favorite Puzzle Game (Dr. Mario (series), Tetris Attack, Yoshi's Cookie, Wario's Woods, Mario's Picross, Yoshi, Donkey Kong (Game Boy)/Mario vs. Donkey Kong (GBA), Mario vs. Donkey Kong (2 and onwards), DK: King of Swing/DK: Jungle Climber, Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker, Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Bros. Edition)
2020-04-18 03:35:23	@Lakituthequick	7) Wario's Woods - 43 - 3.33%
2020-04-18 03:35:23	@Lakituthequick	8) Yoshi - 41 - 3.18%
2020-04-18 03:35:23	@Lakituthequick	9) Mario's Picross - 40 - 3.10%
2020-04-18 03:35:23	@Lakituthequick	10) DK: King of Swing/DK: Jungle Climber - 31 - 2.40%
2020-04-18 03:35:23	@Lakituthequick	10) Yoshi's Cookie - 31 - 2.40%
2020-04-18 03:35:23	@Lakituthequick	12) O. Mario's Super Picross - 1 - 0.08%
2020-04-18 03:35:34	@Lakituthequick	--end of writeins--
2020-04-18 03:35:40	+Smasher	rip
2020-04-18 03:35:47	+Rose	F
2020-04-18 03:35:55	+Smasher	dr mario (series) covers world
2020-04-18 03:36:00	Zange	we could probably leave this one be?
2020-04-18 03:36:07	Honoka_Chaosaka	i'm oaky with a skip
2020-04-18 03:36:11	+Smasher	i dont really think we need to do anything here
2020-04-18 03:36:30	+Rose	If we add Dr. Mario World we're just going to see it get smashed
2020-04-18 03:36:41	@Anton{Politoed}	probably the last award we're covering tonight
2020-04-18 03:36:44	@Anton{Politoed}	M22 Favorite Battle Course (Battle Course 1 (SNES), Skyscraper, Block Fort (N64), Pipe Plaza, Luigi's Mansion, Nintendo DS, Twilight House, Delfino Pier, Funky Stadium, Honeybee Hive, Battle Stadium, Dragon Palace, Lunar Colony, Urchin Underpass, Wuhu Town)
2020-04-18 03:37:01	@Lakituthequick	13) Twilight House - 40 - 3.13%
2020-04-18 03:37:01	@Lakituthequick	14) Battle Stadium - 23 - 1.80%
2020-04-18 03:37:01	@Lakituthequick	15) Honeybee Hive - 21 - 1.64%
2020-04-18 03:37:01	@Lakituthequick	16) O. Block Plaza (Wii) - 9 - 0.70%
2020-04-18 03:37:01	@Lakituthequick	17) O. Nintendo GameCube - 8 - 0.63%
2020-04-18 03:37:01	@Lakituthequick	18) O. Double Deck - 4 - 0.31%
2020-04-18 03:37:16	@Lakituthequick	no exciting numbers
2020-04-18 03:37:28	+Rose	Good as is
2020-04-18 03:37:36	Zange	yeah we can leave this one be too
2020-04-18 03:37:37	Hooded_Pitohui	I see nothing here that warrants a change
2020-04-18 03:37:41	+Smasher	dont feel a reason to change this one
2020-04-18 03:37:57	+Smasher	lowkey forgot we had this award lol...
2020-04-18 03:38:04	@turb	tour doesn't have battle right
2020-04-18 03:38:09	@Lakituthequick	it doesn't
2020-04-18 03:38:23	@Lakituthequick	how would it even control
2020-04-18 03:38:34	@turb	i dunno
2020-04-18 03:38:35	Zange	forced motion controls??
2020-04-18 03:38:40	@turb	i hsvrnt plyed it
2020-04-18 03:38:41	Zange	who knows
2020-04-18 03:38:48	Hooded_Pitohui	Physically seek out other players and ram your phone into their own
2020-04-18 03:39:04	@Lakituthequick	good idea
2020-04-18 03:39:05	+Rose	Good suggestion
2020-04-18 03:39:10	+Smasher	i would do this
2020-04-18 03:39:13	Zange	i like this idea
2020-04-18 03:39:20	@Lakituthequick	can't wait for the insurance forms to come in
2020-04-18 03:40:11	@Anton{Politoed}	alright so we'll pick up with M23 and 24 next week to start fresh on the odyssey awards as we ponder if they're still relevant, and to give us time to brainstorm potential replacements should they be necessary before we come to it
2020-04-18 03:41:04	@Anton{Politoed}	we'll use the rest of, or as much as necessary, of the time left to formally introduce something that was brought up late last year
2020-04-18 03:41:16	+Smasher	fear
2020-04-18 03:41:20	@Anton{Politoed}	the day before the ceremony last year it was suggested to make the chat party on discord instead of irc
2020-04-18 03:41:35	@Anton{Politoed}	this was not something I was going to allow happen because it was literally under 24 hours until the ceremony
2020-04-18 03:41:49	@Anton{Politoed}	and I was NOT going to deal with all of the shit involved in doing that at that point in time
2020-04-18 03:41:51	@Anton{Politoed}	so, we're here now
2020-04-18 03:42:14	@Anton{Politoed}	discussion can be found in this thread here, linking specifically to porple's post that had a tangible idea
2020-04-18 03:42:15	@Anton{Politoed}	https://www.marioboards.com/threads/40779/#post-2093275
2020-04-18 03:42:31	mfan168	of *course* it was porple
2020-04-18 03:42:33	Honoka_Chaosaka	my view on this remains the same as it does last year; if irc fucks up during the ceremony it only really affects a small portion of people (see: netsplits, or one entrance failing)
2020-04-18 03:42:38	@Anton{Politoed}	I have My Opinions on this but I just want to introduce the concept to the Awards Committee here first to see what thoughts are
2020-04-18 03:42:58	Honoka_Chaosaka	if /discord/ fucks up, the entire server goes out for an unknown period of time, which tanks ALL discussion
2020-04-18 03:43:04	Honoka_Chaosaka	i'd rather take the one with less overall risk
2020-04-18 03:43:24	@Lakituthequick	is irc not equally likely to fuck up
2020-04-18 03:43:26	@Anton{Politoed}	we don't need to come to a decision tonight, but this is just to at least introduce it
2020-04-18 03:43:35	Honoka_Chaosaka	i'm not saying it isn't
2020-04-18 03:43:40	Honoka_Chaosaka	i'm saying that if irc fucks up it affects a smaller portion
2020-04-18 03:43:46	Honoka_Chaosaka	rather than knocking the entire chat party offline
2020-04-18 03:43:53	+Smasher	itd be easier for me if it were on discord but shrug
2020-04-18 03:43:59	+Smasher	ill still join if its on irc
2020-04-18 03:44:07	mfan168	discord rarely fucks up for me so
2020-04-18 03:44:24	mfan168	this is more of a worst case scenario you're talking about, perch
2020-04-18 03:44:26	@Lakituthequick	03:42:31 <mfan168> of *course* it was porple -- he wasn't the source of the suggestion, he just offered a possible solution 
2020-04-18 03:44:31	Honoka_Chaosaka	...and?
2020-04-18 03:44:50	@Anton{Politoed}	for people who aren't fully aware
2020-04-18 03:44:51	Hooded_Pitohui	I mean, it'd also be easier for me if it were on Discord, but I have no problems getting into IRC for it, and I think, on the whole, the IRC chat tends to have more people who are actually interested in the proceedings
2020-04-18 03:44:53	Honoka_Chaosaka	i've seen these worst case scenarios happen and they have no respect to time
2020-04-18 03:44:54	mfan168	regardless, i find discord more comfortable to use than irc
2020-04-18 03:44:55	@Anton{Politoed}	the chat party is just the like
2020-04-18 03:45:11	@Anton{Politoed}	get-together of everyone talking about the award results in realtime as the ceremony goes on
2020-04-18 03:45:11	Honoka_Chaosaka	fond memories of the time discord went down for five hours in the middle of the day
2020-04-18 03:45:24	Zange	i say the following purely with what's likely in store for me in mind but tldr i'm leaning towards discord
2020-04-18 03:45:26	Hooded_Pitohui	Where I think the Discord would have a good number of people dip in for a moment and have no interest and go to other channels
2020-04-18 03:45:27	+Rose	My preference defers to irc currently, and it's because of the argument with the Discord crashing but also because it feels so much more personal to have everybody in irc together. Sure, there's more people on Discord, but 90% of the server likely isn't going to participate or care
2020-04-18 03:45:28	@Anton{Politoed}	it's also where we as hosts can tag people who are coming up on their presentation time
2020-04-18 03:45:37	Hooded_Pitohui	Per Rose
2020-04-18 03:45:38	@turb	i maintain that it would be easier to moderate and keep the auxiliary function of the chat party, which to me is scheduling upcoming awards in the topic, on irc
2020-04-18 03:45:40	@turb	yeah
2020-04-18 03:45:59	@turb	it's difficult to do so on discord without the usage of external bots that announce topic changes and etc etc
2020-04-18 03:46:04	@Anton{Politoed}	the integral part of the ceremony is on the forum
2020-04-18 03:46:13	Honoka_Chaosaka	rose sums up the other point i wanted to make, which is that i don't think people in the discord who are not engaged with awards otherwise (forums, for example) would care
2020-04-18 03:46:20	+Rose	When you see all of these different members joining the channel it makes you go "here's all the people that are really interested and passionate for this event"
2020-04-18 03:46:20	@Anton{Politoed}	having the formal chat party in one place does not prevent people from getting together and talking about the results in the other
2020-04-18 03:46:21	@turb	I am willing to learn that this year as it's being discussed well in advance instead of a day before the ceremony
2020-04-18 03:46:29	Honoka_Chaosaka	so i don't think the argument about "this'll get so many new eyeballs!" holds water
2020-04-18 03:46:37	@Lakituthequick	it's true that darkmyst has its load balancing in order, should australia derp up, europe and the americas can still talk
2020-04-18 03:46:37	Honoka_Chaosaka	and yeah, it's not like we'd ban discord discussion of awards
2020-04-18 03:46:50	Honoka_Chaosaka	it's just "which one has the scheduling going on"
2020-04-18 03:46:54	Zange	last year during the chat party and ceremony i was out of the house for like the first hour and a half and couldnt keep up with things as much as i'd have liked to due to only having my phone
2020-04-18 03:46:55	@turb	the awards had essentially 0 people mention them on discord last year fwiw
2020-04-18 03:47:05	@turb	and I'm not going to call that a nail in the coffin as the chat party was indeed on irc
2020-04-18 03:47:11	@turb	and the main event was on the forums
2020-04-18 03:47:17	Hooded_Pitohui	I definitely think it would good for there to be some option and way for people on Discord to keep up with and engage the ceremony, like, if someone is more comfortable using it, it'd be /nice/ if there were some way to ping them for presentations there or something
2020-04-18 03:47:26	Hooded_Pitohui	But not at the expense of the irc chat party
2020-04-18 03:47:27	Zange	depending on college things that may be the case again this year so discord would be easier for me if that happens
2020-04-18 03:47:27	@Anton{Politoed}	it's not like I didn't spam the absolute fuck out of discord with awards stuff, either
2020-04-18 03:47:29	@turb	but there wasn't a storm of new people attempting to create discussion about them there separately from us
2020-04-18 03:47:31	@turb	yeah
2020-04-18 03:47:40	@turb	like they weren't brushed aside in favor of irc completely
2020-04-18 03:47:40	Zange	im fine with irc of course
2020-04-18 03:47:41	+Rose	You can get an irc client for your phone
2020-04-18 03:47:50	@turb	awards were still spammed like mad and advertised
2020-04-18 03:47:54	@Anton{Politoed}	porple's solution to a discord party resolves the issue of maintaining logs
2020-04-18 03:48:00	@Anton{Politoed}	it's a valid solution
2020-04-18 03:48:08	Zange	counterpoint: my phone has awful storage and discord is already on there
2020-04-18 03:48:14	@Anton{Politoed}	my concern is is it a necessary fix
2020-04-18 03:48:34	@turb	androirc only takes up about 11 mb for me
2020-04-18 03:48:40	Zange	irc is fine, it's just more of a hassle if i'm out of the house
2020-04-18 03:48:44	@turb	compared to discord's 200
2020-04-18 03:48:48	@turb	i actually had no idea it was 200 before now
2020-04-18 03:48:50	@turb	worry
2020-04-18 03:48:51	mfan168	countercounterpoint: you don't need to use an irc app, use irc on mariowiki ;^)
2020-04-18 03:48:51	Zange	(which im doing everything in my power to have that Not happen)
2020-04-18 03:48:53	+Rose	Personally I don't think there's any necessity to transfer the main celebration to Discord, and people can always talk about it in Discord anyway
2020-04-18 03:48:57	mfan168	*:^)
2020-04-18 03:48:58	@Lakituthequick	i guess discord is more convenient while irc is cosier and more focussed
2020-04-18 03:48:59	@Anton{Politoed}	(also for people reading logs who want discord as the place, I did announce that anyone can join the committee and that this would be one of the only focus topics of the year aside from awards)
2020-04-18 03:49:02	mfan168	not that it matters that much
2020-04-18 03:49:52	@Anton{Politoed}	to alleviate any concerns about irc, as there was the world's worst timing of a mibbit outage
2020-04-18 03:50:01	@Anton{Politoed}	I will make serious attempts to diversify the clients
2020-04-18 03:50:09	@Anton{Politoed}	mibbit was just easier because I can make a direct url link
2020-04-18 03:50:13	Zange	i will say if discord is the route we end up going i really liked porple's idea
2020-04-18 03:50:19	Hooded_Pitohui	As platforms go, they have their different conveniences based on preference and individual situations, so much of my reasoning is based on what Rose and Perch already said
2020-04-18 03:50:24	+Rose	Why is there an argument of convenience for Discord when all you need to do is go to an irc client and type in a few words? If you don't want to download a client then just go to the MarioWiki link and that should be fine
2020-04-18 03:50:34	+Rose	I know more people have Siscordy
2020-04-18 03:50:37	+Rose	*Discord wew
2020-04-18 03:50:44	+Rose	But it isn't that hard to join an irc channel
2020-04-18 03:50:46	@Anton{Politoed}	discord bimbofication
2020-04-18 03:50:54	@Lakituthequick	true, discord requires one to have an account, irc doesn't 
2020-04-18 03:51:16	Hooded_Pitohui	I would definitely appreciate more advertising of these different IRC cliences and how IRC works in general, speaking as someone who knows next to nothing about IRC other than its use for Awards
2020-04-18 03:51:29	@Lakituthequick	both work in a browser though, no need to download anything if you just want to watch
2020-04-18 03:51:40	Lord_Bowser	id like to suggest irccloud as a promising mobile client
2020-04-18 03:52:03	Hooded_Pitohui	*clients, not cliences
2020-04-18 03:52:05	Zange	the thing with irc on a phone where youre not using a client (like i havent been), it has a tendency to be very finnicky
2020-04-18 03:52:17	Lord_Bowser	its much more resistant to disconnects than a typical client (i.e. you can freely switch between wifi and mobile data without losing connection)
2020-04-18 03:52:19	@Anton{Politoed}	if anyone has more detailed information on clients they'd suggest, feel free to dump it in the staff board because I'm pretty much only familiar with mibbit and mirc
2020-04-18 03:52:26	@Lakituthequick	(irccloud is something like a proxy, they connect to irc for you and you connect to them, without having to worry about your own connection)
2020-04-18 03:52:29	Lord_Bowser	and it has good backlogging
2020-04-18 03:52:30	@Anton{Politoed}	there's absolutely plenty of time to research this and dispense information, as well
2020-04-18 03:52:34	Honoka_Chaosaka	that's why i think if we go with irc this year we should try and give people more information
2020-04-18 03:52:40	Honoka_Chaosaka	and suggested connection methods
2020-04-18 03:52:46	+Rose	I think if we advertise or explain "hey here's what you can use to access irc" a few weeks before and people have time to get it prepared
2020-04-18 03:52:49	+Rose	Then we're set
2020-04-18 03:52:51	Zange	like i cant even remember the amount of times that i left the chrome app for two minutes while i was on irc and when i went back in it refreshed me
2020-04-18 03:52:58	+Smasher	i do have ircloud and i would recommend it
2020-04-18 03:53:02	Lord_Bowser	irccloud wont do that zange
2020-04-18 03:53:09	Zange	maybe this'll be the thing that actually gets me to install a client on my phone who knows
2020-04-18 03:53:14	Lord_Bowser	i would highly recommend it if youre having connection problems
2020-04-18 03:53:22	@Anton{Politoed}	access information via mibbit to this channel is pretty much available year-round as it's where we host meetings
2020-04-18 03:53:23	+Rose	The mibbit client on browser is like that because it's on browser
2020-04-18 03:53:24	Zange	because the first time i tried to use one i couldnt figure it out for the life of me
2020-04-18 03:53:28	+Rose	A downloaded client won't do that
2020-04-18 03:53:33	Zange	and i dont even remember which one it was
2020-04-18 03:53:34	Hooded_Pitohui	Rose and Perch are stealing my words so I'm going to let them keep talking for me
2020-04-18 03:53:39	Lord_Bowser	its downside is that itll autokick you if youre inactive for more than 2 hours, but that shouldnt really be that big a problem honestly
2020-04-18 03:53:41	@Anton{Politoed}	I post it everywhere that I advertise meetings
2020-04-18 03:54:41	Lord_Bowser	theres a paid sub thing but absolutely none of its features are necessary for just here
2020-04-18 03:54:46	+Rose	I think that there's a perception that it's still just for Awards Committee business, even if you say otherwise, and people don't understand that mibbit isn't the only option
2020-04-18 03:54:47	Lord_Bowser	so dont even bother with that lol
2020-04-18 03:55:02	+Rose	So I think a quick message of "here's some other clients to check out before the ceremony starts!"
2020-04-18 03:55:06	+Rose	Would be perfectly enough
2020-04-18 03:55:51	+Rose	My impression is that people prefer Discord because they find the irc client linked on MarioWiki specifically to be bothersome
2020-04-18 03:56:03	Hooded_Pitohui	Yeah, until YFJ said something last week, I had no idea you can use IRC any other way than through the Wiki link
2020-04-18 03:56:04	+Rose	So if they were made consciously aware of other options that'd remedy that issue
2020-04-18 03:56:25	Zange	how do you even use a client, anyways?
2020-04-18 03:56:28	Zange	serious question
2020-04-18 03:56:31	+Rose	You download it and that's it
2020-04-18 03:56:32	@Lakituthequick	potentially good starting point for suggestions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_Relay_Chat_clients
2020-04-18 03:56:40	Zange	(specifically a mobile one)
2020-04-18 03:56:43	Honoka_Chaosaka	you download a program, then input the sp- oh
2020-04-18 03:56:45	Lord_Bowser	youll need to connect to irc.darkmyst.org
2020-04-18 03:56:45	+Rose	It's an app
2020-04-18 03:56:46	Honoka_Chaosaka	mobile, i dunno
2020-04-18 03:56:55	Lord_Bowser	what client are you using zange
2020-04-18 03:57:09	@turb	/connect irc.darkmyst.org
2020-04-18 03:57:16	@turb	then /j #mwikiawards
2020-04-18 03:57:20	Zange	i dont even know which one i had on my phone when i tried to use one the first time, it was well over a year ago
2020-04-18 03:57:31	Zange	like i could not figure out how to connect to a server
2020-04-18 03:57:40	+Rose	Well that's how ^
2020-04-18 03:57:42	@Lakituthequick	worth noting: commands may differ between client
2020-04-18 03:57:48	GBAToad	the one thing horrifying about irccloud is having to look at lbs avatar
2020-04-18 03:57:59	Lord_Bowser	just disable avatars lul
2020-04-18 03:58:00	@Lakituthequick	irccloud has avatars?
2020-04-18 03:58:07	@Lakituthequick	that's not even an irc thing
2020-04-18 03:58:11	@turb	/j is shorthand so if that doesn't work /join usually does
2020-04-18 03:58:17	Zange	i will probably end up hunting someone down for help later once i actually figure out which one to put on my phone
2020-04-18 03:58:23	Lord_Bowser	yeah but you can hide them easily
2020-04-18 03:58:28	@Anton{Politoed}	"Initial release	November 2007"
2020-04-18 03:58:29	@Anton{Politoed}	god
2020-04-18 03:58:39	+Rose	For reiteration one more time before the meeting ends, I'm in the camp of Stick With IRC
2020-04-18 03:58:41	@turb	i wonder if kiwiirc still exists
2020-04-18 03:58:42	@Anton{Politoed}	i've been using mibbit since it was conceived
2020-04-18 03:58:48	@Anton{Politoed}	I didn't realize it wasn't older
2020-04-18 03:59:04	Hooded_Pitohui	Relevant mood https://xkcd.com/1782/
2020-04-18 03:59:14	Hooded_Pitohui	But, yeah, I'm with Rose on stick with IRC for now
2020-04-18 03:59:35	Lord_Bowser	also ill mention that not only are irc netsplits less serious than discord outages, theyre also generally rarer
2020-04-18 03:59:41	@Anton{Politoed}	dating neu is why I stuck to irc
2020-04-18 03:59:47	@Lakituthequick	theres always a good xkcd
2020-04-18 03:59:51	@Anton{Politoed}	boy couldn't keep his hands on a single chat service for more than a month
2020-04-18 03:59:53	Lord_Bowser	the one that happened last year(?) was just extremely unfortunate timing
2020-04-18 03:59:54	-->	kiwi_77 (kiwi_77@184.103.wqo.sky) has joined #mwikiawards
2020-04-18 04:00:04	@turb	it's still around and doesn't mask your host name anymore
2020-04-18 04:00:08	@turb	and you can get direct links from it
2020-04-18 04:00:10	@Anton{Politoed}	:clap:
2020-04-18 04:00:14	Lord_Bowser	there hadnt been one for a while beforehand iirc
2020-04-18 04:00:17	kiwi_77	https://kiwiirc.com/nextclient/irc.darkmyst.org/#mwikiawards
2020-04-18 04:00:22	@turb	this would be a good mibbit alternative
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2020-04-18 04:00:44	anton	i'm gay
2020-04-18 04:00:57	+Smasher	relatable
2020-04-18 04:01:06	<--	anton (anton@231-398-232-894.res.spectrum.com) has quit (Client Quit)
2020-04-18 04:01:06	<--	mfan168 (Mibbit@27-70-94-46.lightspeed.nbvlin.sbcglobal.net) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
2020-04-18 04:01:14	Zange	relatable x2
2020-04-18 04:01:26	+Rose	relatable x0.5
2020-04-18 04:01:33	@Lakituthequick	so...
2020-04-18 04:01:36	GBAToad	good comic
2020-04-18 04:02:19	@Anton{Politoed}	so from the vibe I'm getting, majority ac opinion is stick with irc for the chat party, but take better care to diversify clients and dispense information on how to use them
2020-04-18 04:02:32	@Anton{Politoed}	this stance is fluid, but it's what I'm going to work with until the tides change
2020-04-18 04:02:34	@Lakituthequick	pretty much
2020-04-18 04:02:47	Hooded_Pitohui	That's my opinion on the matter
2020-04-18 04:02:53	+Smasher	fair enough
2020-04-18 04:03:10	Honoka_Chaosaka	that's my view, yeah
2020-04-18 04:03:20	@Anton{Politoed}	and with that, the meeting is over!
2020-04-18 04:03:25	Honoka_Chaosaka	stick with irc, but make irc feel more avaliable and accessible to newcomers
2020-04-18 04:03:34	@turb	:clap:
2020-04-18 04:03:37	+Rose	Good work team 🎉
2020-04-18 04:03:38	Honoka_Chaosaka	We Did It
2020-04-18 04:03:45	@Anton{Politoed}	thank you all for joining and being active
2020-04-18 04:03:51	@Anton{Politoed}	we'll meet again in ~8 days
2020-04-18 04:04:00	@Anton{Politoed}	be sure to read the shroom tomorrow
2020-04-18 04:04:17	Power_Flotzo	OK, see you then!
2020-04-18 04:04:18	@turb	i'll remember the first hour of the meeting next time
2020-04-18 04:04:19	Hooded_Pitohui	Please do! Go sign up to write for The 'Shroom, too