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2021-05-22 01:52:26	tpggaming3	the sequel to tpggaming2
2021-05-22 01:54:47	Pitohui	The thrilling trilogy reaches its stunning conclusion
2021-05-22 01:57:07	tpggaming3	could have said thrillogy 
2021-05-22 01:57:10	tpggaming3	dont worry
2021-05-22 01:57:19	tpggaming3	you'll do it next time
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2021-05-22 01:58:13	NinjaSquid	Hello!
2021-05-22 01:58:23	Pitohui	Hello, NS!
2021-05-22 01:58:32	Lakituthequick	y'ellow
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2021-05-22 01:59:36	NinjaSquid	Hi there, Goombuigi and Rose!
2021-05-22 01:59:44	Rose	Yo yo
2021-05-22 01:59:53	Goombuigi	Hello
2021-05-22 02:00:00	Pitohui	https://www.marioboards.com/threads/43844/
2021-05-22 02:00:08	Pitohui	Everyone vote in C4 if you haven't
2021-05-22 02:00:46	@Anton{Politoed}	hi i'm here
2021-05-22 02:01:00	@Anton{Politoed}	hope everyone had a good time voting in all those polls
2021-05-22 02:01:22	Lakituthequick	I know I did
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2021-05-22 02:01:42	Rose	Favorite presentation is so hard to vote for
2021-05-22 02:01:49	Pitohui	Quite a few this year, but it should make things smooth tonight, with any luck
2021-05-22 02:01:50	Lakituthequick	yeah
2021-05-22 02:01:55	meowth	one minute late... i have brought shame to my family
2021-05-22 02:02:07	Lakituthequick	it's that meme with the entire dictionary being yellow from the marker
2021-05-22 02:02:21	@Anton{Politoed}	so our objective today is fairly simple
2021-05-22 02:02:42	@Anton{Politoed}	go over the remaining 4 mario/fail awards we need to finalize: M22, M23, M24, and F11
2021-05-22 02:02:50	@Anton{Politoed}	most decisions are already made, but need to just be like
2021-05-22 02:02:52	@Anton{Politoed}	announced
2021-05-22 02:03:01	@Anton{Politoed}	and not cause an uproar
2021-05-22 02:03:24	@Anton{Politoed}	then we will begin Community Awards, using the polls in the staff board to help large-scale nomination decisions
2021-05-22 02:04:11	@Anton{Politoed}	so, first up, *M22 Favorite Mario Party Board
2021-05-22 02:04:31	@Anton{Politoed}	M22 Favorite Mario Party Board (Castaway Bay (MP6), Faire Square (MP6), Kamek's Library (MPDS), Koopa's Tycoon Town (MP8), Magma Mine (MP9), Neon Heights (MP7), Pagoda Peak (MP7), Peach's Birthday Cake (MP), Waluigi's Island (MP3), Western Land (MP2), Shy Guy's Jungle Jam (MP4), King Bob-omb's Powderkeg Mine (SMP), Sweet Dream (MP5),
2021-05-22 02:04:31	@Anton{Politoed}	Shy Guy's Shuffle City (MP:IT), Whimsical Waters (MP10), Shy Guy's Perplex Express (MP8), Horror Land (MP2), Mario's Rainbow Castle (MP))
2021-05-22 02:05:07	@Anton{Politoed}	nominees were decided on basically by people shouting them out and I added them, but ultimately GBAToad, who had the idea for this award, cross-referenced them all with other reviews around the internet and it seemed mostly in-sync
2021-05-22 02:05:21	@turb	oh i voted in everything
2021-05-22 02:05:32	@Anton{Politoed}	the three at the end, Shy Guy's Perplex Express (MP8), Horror Land (MP2), Mario's Rainbow Castle (MP), were from a list of suggestions from him that I personally chose
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2021-05-22 02:05:53	@Anton{Politoed}	based on a general sense of other reviews online, and what we needed
2021-05-22 02:06:05	@Anton{Politoed}	are there any concerns about these nominees?
2021-05-22 02:06:08	NinjaSquid	of those three, Horror Land was fun from what I remember
2021-05-22 02:06:18	Pitohui	All of the nominees here look good to me
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2021-05-22 02:06:30	NinjaSquid	but no, I don't have any concerns
2021-05-22 02:06:37	@__2257	last time i played mario party someone called horror land 'objectively badly designed' or something like that heh heh heh
2021-05-22 02:06:38	Lakituthequick	Also I fixed two names earlier (Fair => Faire and Waluigi => Waluigi's)
2021-05-22 02:06:42	Goombuigi	Looks good to me too
2021-05-22 02:06:42	Lakituthequick	For reference
2021-05-22 02:06:47	@Anton{Politoed}	gr8888888
2021-05-22 02:06:58	@__2257	vriska
2021-05-22 02:07:14	@Anton{Politoed}	I assume by the use of the word "fixed" you mean it was already done thanks to your phenomenal powers of having access to the document
2021-05-22 02:07:19	Lakituthequick	yes
2021-05-22 02:07:34	Lakituthequick	that's correct
2021-05-22 02:07:35	Smasher	im fine with this list
2021-05-22 02:07:44	@Anton{Politoed}	the proposed definition for this award is very wordy, as you will soon find out
2021-05-22 02:07:46	@Anton{Politoed}	"-The best playable board in a Mario Party game."
2021-05-22 02:07:51	Lakituthequick	oof
2021-05-22 02:07:53	Lakituthequick	so many words
2021-05-22 02:08:03	@turb	fear
2021-05-22 02:08:06	Rose	Can we shorten that any more that's just too many words
2021-05-22 02:08:07	Smasher	can you say that again i didnt catch it the first time
2021-05-22 02:08:16	@Anton{Politoed}	"-board"
2021-05-22 02:08:19	@turb	well like
2021-05-22 02:08:21	Lakituthequick	perfect
2021-05-22 02:08:24	@turb	does it need to specify "playable"
2021-05-22 02:08:28	NinjaSquid	great
2021-05-22 02:08:31	@turb	i mean that as a genuine question not a smug thing
2021-05-22 02:08:37	@turb	i didn't realize therew were ....... unplayable boards
2021-05-22 02:08:43	@__2257	yeah probably due to help land or whatever
2021-05-22 02:08:44	@Anton{Politoed}	I threw that word in there simply to try to make the sentence not just the award name but repeated
2021-05-22 02:08:46	@turb	i guess it doesn't hurt
2021-05-22 02:08:48	@turb	oh good idea
2021-05-22 02:08:48	Pitohui	Strictly speaking, there are rules boards
2021-05-22 02:09:09	@Anton{Politoed}	i'm glad it has a real justifiable reason as well, thx
2021-05-22 02:09:14	Smasher	yeah the rules boards and shit probably mean lets say playable
2021-05-22 02:09:21	@Anton{Politoed}	let's move on to *M23 Favorite Mechanic
2021-05-22 02:09:44	@Anton{Politoed}	M23 Favorite Game Mechanic (Transformation Caps (Super Mario 64 DS), F.L.U.D.D. (Super Mario Sunshine), Gravity (Super Mario Galaxy), Cappy/Captures (Super Mario Odyssey), Timed command inputs (Mario RPG titles), Badges (Paper Mario series), Badges (Mario & Luigi series), Kart customization (Mario Kart series), Elements (Luigi's Mansion), 
2021-05-22 02:09:44	@Anton{Politoed}	Poltergust (Luigi's Mansion series), Gooigi (Luigi's Mansion 3), Egg mechanics (Yoshi series), Partners (Paper Mario series), Timed hits/action commands (Mario RPG titles), Two racers (Mario Kart: Double Dash!!), Anti-gravity (Mario Kart 8))
2021-05-22 02:09:52	Lakituthequick	Transformation Caps (Super Mario 64 DS): lowercase C, also just referred to as colored caps on the wiki https://www.mariowiki.com/Super_Mario_64_DS#Colored_caps
2021-05-22 02:10:05	@Anton{Politoed}	this set was generated by what rose and pitohui lobbed into the new award idea thread
2021-05-22 02:10:10	Pitohui	It looks like Timed hits slipped in there twice
2021-05-22 02:10:18	@Anton{Politoed}	it's possible
2021-05-22 02:10:25	Pitohui	Once as Timed Command Inputs and the other as Timed Hits/Action Commands
2021-05-22 02:10:28	Smasher	all good options
2021-05-22 02:10:36	Smasher	but yeah what pit said
2021-05-22 02:10:38	@Anton{Politoed}	which one is preferred
2021-05-22 02:10:42	Gabumon	wouldn't the cap system just be an extension of having multiple selectable characters
2021-05-22 02:10:47	@__2257	i still think badges (m&l) should be nixed in favor of bros attacks
2021-05-22 02:10:50	Pitohui	I'd go with the latter.
2021-05-22 02:10:55	@turb	same as 22
2021-05-22 02:10:56	Pitohui	And 22's suggestion is good
2021-05-22 02:10:56	Rose	That's a good thought 22 
2021-05-22 02:10:58	Smasher	i agree with 22
2021-05-22 02:11:16	Pitohui	I don't necessarily think so Edo because it lets you change characters mid-course
2021-05-22 02:11:23	Pitohui	Instead of always having to go back to the doors
2021-05-22 02:11:46	Rose	Also re: timed inputs I prefer the latter phrasing
2021-05-22 02:11:50	@__2257	imo the caps are kind of a band-aid over fundamentally bad game design but maybe other people disagree 
2021-05-22 02:11:52	Gabumon	it feels to me like the same system with a different accessor
2021-05-22 02:11:57	@__2257	im not opposed to having them on 
2021-05-22 02:12:01	Gabumon	no, that's exactly it, 2257
2021-05-22 02:12:21	Gabumon	the fundamental system is that there are multiple playable characters
2021-05-22 02:12:30	Gabumon	and then there are a bunch of ways to access that mechanic
2021-05-22 02:12:35	@__2257	well i mean... yeah, that IS my opinion, im just saying the public might not think so
2021-05-22 02:12:48	Rose	I don't have a very strong opinion on the caps at all
2021-05-22 02:12:53	@__2257	its hard for me to say 
2021-05-22 02:13:16	@turb	i didnt really care that much about the caps in either direction
2021-05-22 02:13:21	@turb	i just dont really like sm64ds so
2021-05-22 02:13:25	Honoka_Chaosaka	i kind of agree with edo because it rally is just a shortcut to an arbitrary limitation
2021-05-22 02:13:37	Honoka_Chaosaka	rathert han a mechanic that actively changes gameplay
2021-05-22 02:13:38	@Anton{Politoed}	"Bros. Attacks (Mario & Luigi series)"  ?
2021-05-22 02:13:42	Rose	Yes
2021-05-22 02:13:43	Pitohui	Yeah
2021-05-22 02:13:45	Smasher	assuming we swap the m&l badges with bros attacks the caps are like the one thing on this list i dont care much either way about regarding their inclusion
2021-05-22 02:13:45	@__2257	yaeh
2021-05-22 02:13:47	Smasher	yeah
2021-05-22 02:13:48	@Anton{Politoed}	A not a because that's what the wiki has
2021-05-22 02:13:50	NinjaSquid	y
2021-05-22 02:13:54	Honoka_Chaosaka	yep
2021-05-22 02:13:56	Goombuigi	Yes
2021-05-22 02:14:08	Lakituthequick	I guess having to go to a room in a big castle just to swap characters is annoying
2021-05-22 02:14:28	Pitohui	Being forced to swap characters is annoying in general
2021-05-22 02:14:45	Lakituthequick	jury's out on that on
2021-05-22 02:14:46	Lakituthequick	e
2021-05-22 02:15:24	@turb	i think we ahouls probably include bros items in the nominee name
2021-05-22 02:15:42	@Anton{Politoed}	pito commentary from the thread
2021-05-22 02:15:47	@__2257	i was hoping peoplw would just assume those were the same
2021-05-22 02:15:50	Rose	If we include Bros items then we have to add Dreamy attacks too, right 
2021-05-22 02:15:55	@Anton{Politoed}	"Mario 64 caps/Animal Buddies (DKC series)/Melons (Yoshi's Island)  
2021-05-22 02:15:58	Honoka_Chaosaka	not really?
2021-05-22 02:15:59	Rose	I think Bros attacks cover all basis on its own
2021-05-22 02:16:00	@__2257	but yeah idk you might want to
2021-05-22 02:16:06	@Anton{Politoed}	     I've left these kinds of things off because they feel more like temporary power-ups rather than something permanent once you have them. I guess the 64 DS transformation caps are also impermanent, but, also, they don't run out once you have them. You only lose them by taking damage, whereas these other things run out after a certain amount of time/uses or
2021-05-22 02:16:08	@Anton{Politoed}	at a certain point in the level."
2021-05-22 02:16:35	Honoka_Chaosaka	are luiginary attacks close enough to bros to count
2021-05-22 02:16:36	@turb	i basically consider bros items to be bros attacks but yeah
2021-05-22 02:16:41	Honoka_Chaosaka	i legitimately don't know, i barely played dream team
2021-05-22 02:16:44	Rose	They are
2021-05-22 02:16:46	Pitohui	Luiginary Attacks are basically Bros Attacks
2021-05-22 02:16:46	@__2257	i dunno i onlyp layed 1-3
2021-05-22 02:16:49	@turb	its more just a thing for specification
2021-05-22 02:16:55	@turb	also i agree with the pito commentary i think
2021-05-22 02:16:57	Rose	They're the same thing with extra Luigi's and tilt controls sometimes
2021-05-22 02:17:12	@turb	idk i actually think mario 64 caps are the worst option of the 3
2021-05-22 02:17:14	@Anton{Politoed}	also peeps keep in mind that I'm mostly bureaucrat here and don't know what most of these things are lol
2021-05-22 02:17:19	@turb	at least animal buddies were neat and featured in full levels sometimes
2021-05-22 02:17:34	@Anton{Politoed}	if there's a suggestion for a nominee plz write it out in a full name that I can list it as
2021-05-22 02:17:35	Lakituthequick	I haven't played either game in at least 7 yrears
2021-05-22 02:17:45	@__2257	imo a game mechanic in donkey kong country would have to be something like the piggyback move
2021-05-22 02:17:52	@__2257	which i dont think would do well enough to be worth including
2021-05-22 02:18:22	Smasher	i like the animal buddies a lot but im nottttt sure they really fit in this
2021-05-22 02:18:28	Gabumon	my issue with the caps isn't really that they're bad, it's that I feel like we're nominating a singular aspect as opposed to the fundamental mechanic
2021-05-22 02:18:30	Pitohui	I don't think any of those things Anton just quoted need to be included, and if the 64DS Transformation caps are seen as an extension of multiple characters, it makes sense to remove those
2021-05-22 02:18:35	@__2257	i guess i dont know what a 'game mechanic' is according to us
2021-05-22 02:18:44	@Anton{Politoed}	https://www.marioboards.com/threads/43740/#post-2270159   more in this post
2021-05-22 02:19:02	@__2257	to me it seems like a lot of these nominees are something that affects the whole design of the game and makes it stand out from other games
2021-05-22 02:19:09	@Anton{Politoed}	"-The best feature of a game's functions. These mechanics should be specific to a game or game series, and help shape a game or game series' identity."
2021-05-22 02:19:16	@__2257	but im not sure if thats intentional or not
2021-05-22 02:19:19	Rose	We can just remove the character caps that's fine with me 
2021-05-22 02:19:27	NinjaSquid	i was thinking the same here 22
2021-05-22 02:19:27	Lakituthequick	Do the caps define SM64DS
2021-05-22 02:19:37	@Anton{Politoed}	this also doesn't have to be our definition
2021-05-22 02:19:44	@Anton{Politoed}	it's just the one I currently have
2021-05-22 02:19:47	Lakituthequick	true
2021-05-22 02:19:54	@__2257	no, but the presence of 4 characters is probably the main thing that makes it stand out from sm6464
2021-05-22 02:20:14	Smasher	character swapping is a part of it but i also just played as luigi for 90% of the game
2021-05-22 02:20:19	Honoka_Chaosaka	yeah, if we were to nominate anything from 64 dS, i'd say the character swapping
2021-05-22 02:20:22	@__2257	i mean yeah same
2021-05-22 02:20:27	@Anton{Politoed}	the use of 'help shape' instead of 'primarily shapes' does allow some leeway
2021-05-22 02:20:29	@__2257	but the 4 characters are on the coverr and stuff
2021-05-22 02:20:43	Smasher	well yeah
2021-05-22 02:21:32	@Anton{Politoed}	 15 nominees, I don't care either way
2021-05-22 02:21:46	@Anton{Politoed}	is there something better we could include instead
2021-05-22 02:21:50	@Anton{Politoed}	if so, sure, if not, then sure
2021-05-22 02:21:51	@__2257	anyway i just dont thik the character swapping was good or would do well
2021-05-22 02:22:20	Rose	I think instead we need to add DK64 character swapping /s
2021-05-22 02:22:37	Smasher	going to try to think of last second nominees but i dont think i will because my brain isnt big enough
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2021-05-22 02:22:48	Pitohui	I think I've wrung out all the ideas I've had for this award over the past two weeks
2021-05-22 02:22:55	@__2257	idk do people like wario being immune to death in wario land 2-3
2021-05-22 02:23:00	@turb	i dont have an opinion
2021-05-22 02:23:02	Rose	OH
2021-05-22 02:23:07	Rose	Thank you 22 that did remind me
2021-05-22 02:23:18	Rose	I was totally thinking about the Wario transformations earlier 
2021-05-22 02:23:23	Pitohui	Oh!
2021-05-22 02:23:30	Pitohui	That's a pretty good idea
2021-05-22 02:23:33	@turb	the transformations are a good plan
2021-05-22 02:23:37	Gabumon	bold of you to assume that people remember wario land, 2257
2021-05-22 02:23:38	Pitohui	"Wario Transformations (Wario Land series)
2021-05-22 02:23:48	Smasher	oh yes those
2021-05-22 02:23:53	@__2257	well rose does
2021-05-22 02:24:04	Smasher	id be down to throw them in instead of the caps
2021-05-22 02:24:37	Lakituthequick	there is enough space for both
2021-05-22 02:24:53	@__2257	i jsut think the caps were bad
2021-05-22 02:24:58	Rose	I don't think anybody feels strong about the caps as a nominee
2021-05-22 02:25:18	Smasher	im meh on the caps as a nominee after reading the points made
2021-05-22 02:25:24	@Anton{Politoed}	I'll replace it
2021-05-22 02:25:45	@Anton{Politoed}	give wario top billing as the first nominee in the list
2021-05-22 02:25:53	Honoka_Chaosaka	wario land is a good choice
2021-05-22 02:26:13	@Anton{Politoed}	any other concerns for M23?
2021-05-22 02:26:20	@Anton{Politoed}	definition is fine, etc.
2021-05-22 02:26:26	Pitohui	I think it's set
2021-05-22 02:26:26	@__2257	is fury bowser... possibly something
2021-05-22 02:26:29	@__2257	i still havnet played that
2021-05-22 02:26:56	tpggaming3	its the Big Gimmick of that game 
2021-05-22 02:26:59	Pitohui	I did consider that at one point, but I don't know it was particularly enjoyable and I haven't seen anyone saying they really liked it
2021-05-22 02:27:05	@__2257	 alright
2021-05-22 02:27:05	Smasher	ehhhhh
2021-05-22 02:27:06	tpggaming3	but its not very standout 
2021-05-22 02:27:16	@__2257	too bad, hes so cute
2021-05-22 02:27:21	tpggaming3	its just 'wait 10 minutes for him to show up so he can blast a specific rock'
2021-05-22 02:27:24	Pitohui	It's *there*, sometimes cool, mostly annoying
2021-05-22 02:27:30	Lakituthequick	amazing, the main thing of the game is not enjoyable 
2021-05-22 02:27:40	Smasher	fury bowser is cool looking but himself is probably the weakest part of the game LOL
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2021-05-22 02:28:18	Lakituthequick	irony
2021-05-22 02:28:24	Smasher	all my enjoyment with the mode came from basically anything else
2021-05-22 02:28:34	Pitohui	Same, Smasher
2021-05-22 02:29:10	@Anton{Politoed}	ok time for the next one
2021-05-22 02:29:17	@Anton{Politoed}	*M24 Favorite Merchandise
2021-05-22 02:29:39	@Anton{Politoed}	M24 Favorite Merchandise (Club Nintendo Hanafuda or Mario Hanafuda, Monopoly Gamer or Super Mario Bros. Monopoly, LEGO Super Mario, Super Mario Chess, Super Mario Cereal, Super Mario Characters Figurine (2010 Platinum Elite Status Reward), UNO Super Mario, K'NEX figures, Furuta Chocolate Egg Figurines, San-ei Super Mario plushies, Deluxe Bowser's Castle plays
2021-05-22 02:29:40	@Anton{Politoed}	et)
2021-05-22 02:29:48	Lakituthequick	Furuta Chocolate Egg Figurines: lowercase F in figurines
2021-05-22 02:29:48	Lakituthequick	Side note: Deluxe Bowser's Castle playset doesn't appear to be on the wiki, but it does show up on Google
2021-05-22 02:30:11	Lakituthequick	interpret the latter point as you will, i just noticed that
2021-05-22 02:30:14	@__2257	do soundtracks count for this
2021-05-22 02:30:24	Gabumon	this might be a stupid question
2021-05-22 02:30:26	@__2257	i wouldnt know how to go about adding one im just curious
2021-05-22 02:30:36	Gabumon	but do amiibos count for this
2021-05-22 02:30:40	Gabumon	in some way
2021-05-22 02:30:43	@Anton{Politoed}	i mean if it's a physical one, then sure!
2021-05-22 02:30:44	NinjaSquid	same question as edo
2021-05-22 02:30:45	Lakituthequick	i'd say yes
2021-05-22 02:30:49	Smasher	i was wondering the same edo
2021-05-22 02:30:53	@turb	amiibos are a good point
2021-05-22 02:30:55	@Anton{Politoed}	and that was up for question yeah, I'd say sure
2021-05-22 02:30:58	@Anton{Politoed}	but in what form
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2021-05-22 02:31:06	Lakituthequick	just "amiibo" I guess
2021-05-22 02:31:11	@Anton{Politoed}	all amiibos as a concept, or, individualized
2021-05-22 02:31:17	tpggaming3	rose was killed??
2021-05-22 02:31:28	Gabumon	probably as a concept
2021-05-22 02:31:29	Lakituthequick	probably all
2021-05-22 02:31:32	@Anton{Politoed}	oh that's interesting yeah
2021-05-22 02:31:35	@Anton{Politoed}	that's not rose's hostname
2021-05-22 02:31:40	Smasher	oh
2021-05-22 02:31:42	Gabumon	I assume mario lego also has different sets (?)
2021-05-22 02:31:42	@Anton{Politoed}	someone actually did kill him yeah
2021-05-22 02:31:44	Pitohui	All amiibo would be best, I think
2021-05-22 02:31:46	Smasher	amazing
2021-05-22 02:31:49	Lakituthequick	you can only use ghost as yourself so
2021-05-22 02:31:50	@Anton{Politoed}	meeting on pause so I go find him
2021-05-22 02:31:56	Smasher	anyway yeah all amiibo i would say
2021-05-22 02:32:02	Lakituthequick	he'd have to have killed himself
2021-05-22 02:32:03	@Anton{Politoed}	you can use ghost to boot someone off of your name you have registered
2021-05-22 02:32:20	Lakituthequick	that sounded less morbid in my head
2021-05-22 02:32:47	@Anton{Politoed}	but yeah I'm fine with adding amiibos
2021-05-22 02:32:49	Lakituthequick	actually 'Rose' is sorta generic
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2021-05-22 02:33:00	@__2257	anyway if we're counting amiiboes collectively then i guess soundtrack releases can also go on collectively?
2021-05-22 02:33:01	@Anton{Politoed}	awkward having a nominee that is just lowercase entirely but it is what it is
2021-05-22 02:33:18	@Anton{Politoed}	I think that's different
2021-05-22 02:33:25	@Anton{Politoed}	amiibos is like the san-ei plushies
2021-05-22 02:34:59	@Anton{Politoed}	https://twitter.com/nintendoamerica/status/535485751635763200?lang=en
2021-05-22 02:35:01	@Anton{Politoed}	damn
2021-05-22 02:35:17	Smasher	i see amiibo in the same spot as like san-ei and lego mario, not sure about soundtracks
2021-05-22 02:35:44	@turb	have there been a lot of notable separate physically released soundtracks
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2021-05-22 02:35:51	@__2257	hi rose
2021-05-22 02:35:52	@turb	i don't think it's problematic to add or anything
2021-05-22 02:35:53	@Anton{Politoed}	https://www.gamestop.com/toys-collectibles/toys/construction/products/super-mario-bros.-deluxe-bowsers-castle-playset/11096731.html
2021-05-22 02:35:55	Rose_	There we go
2021-05-22 02:35:56	@Anton{Politoed}	is this the one
2021-05-22 02:36:02	@turb	i just don't know how common they are
2021-05-22 02:36:04	Pitohui	Yes
2021-05-22 02:36:08	@Anton{Politoed}	if so, I'll add jakks pacific to it
2021-05-22 02:36:43	Smasher	hi rose how was the afterlife
2021-05-22 02:36:48	Rose_	Very cold
2021-05-22 02:37:14	@Anton{Politoed}	i think
2021-05-22 02:37:20	@Anton{Politoed}	soundtracks should be individual
2021-05-22 02:37:34	@Anton{Politoed}	unless all of them being released by nintendo are a series together
2021-05-22 02:38:24	@__2257	no theyre not
2021-05-22 02:39:16	tpggaming3	i am going to have to go to sleep because my charm and usefulness levels (and awake levels) have been wiped out
2021-05-22 02:39:30	tpggaming3	i dont think i have any comments for upcoming stuff in this meeting 
2021-05-22 02:39:30	@__2257	if soundtracks cant go on collectively they probably shouldnt at all because this award could be 100% filled with them and then it would just turn into favorite sound design again
2021-05-22 02:39:42	@Anton{Politoed}	have fun sleeping
2021-05-22 02:39:48	tpggaming3	except dont forget splitting paper mario in m8 
2021-05-22 02:39:49	tpggaming3	zz
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2021-05-22 02:40:12	Lakituthequick	yeah M1 pretty much covers the soundtrack already
2021-05-22 02:40:22	Gabumon	I don't see why they couldn't be put on collectively
2021-05-22 02:40:39	Lakituthequick	I do see potential in a collective add though
2021-05-22 02:40:47	@__2257	i dont either really but im just saying if people don't want that then i dont think we should have them
2021-05-22 02:41:00	@__2257	individually
2021-05-22 02:41:04	Gabumon	there's actually a subtle difference between soundtracks here and M1
2021-05-22 02:41:23	Gabumon	the soundtracks here refer to a released product
2021-05-22 02:41:39	Gabumon	whereas M1 is about sountracks as they appear and are used in games
2021-05-22 02:42:35	@Anton{Politoed}	https://www.mariowiki.com/List_of_albums
2021-05-22 02:42:40	@Anton{Politoed}	i'm not pushing to call them albums
2021-05-22 02:42:58	@Anton{Politoed}	but should we specific original soundtracks or something like that?
2021-05-22 02:43:08	Smasher	went to look at the soundtracks and realized i actually have one of these
2021-05-22 02:43:22	@Anton{Politoed}	specify*
2021-05-22 02:44:11	Smasher	"Original soundtrack CDs" idk im not good at thinking
2021-05-22 02:44:23	Pitohui	Original Soundtrack Releases could work as a collective nominee. Edo has a valid point, and it makes more sense to me to put them on collectively than individually
2021-05-22 02:45:43	Smasher	having them individually probbbbbably doesnt work
2021-05-22 02:46:10	Smasher	just because of the sheer number of them
2021-05-22 02:46:32	Lakituthequick	per pito (except lowercase R)
2021-05-22 02:46:49	Smasher	i think i can go with a group under pito's name after thinking it over
2021-05-22 02:47:11	@Anton{Politoed}	this award definition is rough btw, seeking improvement
2021-05-22 02:47:14	@Anton{Politoed}	"-The best physical non-videogame product, goods, collectible, or item available for purchase."
2021-05-22 02:47:29	@__2257	snw food lol
2021-05-22 02:47:49	Lakituthequick	man, if they released a vinyl i'd instabuy it
2021-05-22 02:47:54	Lakituthequick	probably
2021-05-22 02:49:12	@Anton{Politoed}	any thoughts, feelings, concerns on that definition
2021-05-22 02:49:32	@__2257	just that it includes food
2021-05-22 02:49:45	@Anton{Politoed}	oh i didn't know what you were saying
2021-05-22 02:49:58	@__2257	i dont know if its bad or good i just find it funny
2021-05-22 02:49:59	@Anton{Politoed}	added
2021-05-22 02:50:00	Pitohui	This is a tough award to clearly define. It's, by necessity, pretty expansive.
2021-05-22 02:50:12	Pitohui	But I don't think that's a problem, exactly
2021-05-22 02:50:19	@Anton{Politoed}	'for purchase' might be limiting
2021-05-22 02:50:25	@Anton{Politoed}	'for purchase or collection' ?
2021-05-22 02:50:46	Lakituthequick	can food be considered merch really
2021-05-22 02:50:55	Lakituthequick	it perishes so it's not collectible
2021-05-22 02:51:03	Pitohui	...at first I was thinking "how would it be limiting" but then, yeah, there's a lot of, like, loyalty rewards
2021-05-22 02:51:12	Pitohui	"For purchase or collection is good"
2021-05-22 02:51:12	@__2257	the definition as given includes food 
2021-05-22 02:51:25	@__2257	its a physical product for purchase that isn't a video game
2021-05-22 02:51:32	Smasher	yep
2021-05-22 02:51:32	Lakituthequick	that is true
2021-05-22 02:51:34	Honoka_Chaosaka	yeah the fact that it's /or/ allows food
2021-05-22 02:51:37	Honoka_Chaosaka	as opposed to and
2021-05-22 02:51:51	@Anton{Politoed}	if we are happy with this, time to move to the next one
2021-05-22 02:52:03	@__2257	thats what im saying
2021-05-22 02:52:03	@__2257	also the cereal is on, although you could argue the box constitutes a non-perishable collectable i guess
2021-05-22 02:52:29	Pitohui	Doesn't some of the food at SNW come with little collectable items you keep? I thought that's what you were referring to, 22
2021-05-22 02:52:38	@__2257	maybe it does
2021-05-22 02:52:45	@__2257	its been a while since iw atched the video
2021-05-22 02:52:52	@__2257	snw is a whole world of products on its own
2021-05-22 02:53:30	@Anton{Politoed}	F11 Most Shameless Business Practice (Mario Kart Tour/Dr. Mario World gacha, Limited-time availability of Super Mario 3D All-Stars, Nintendo Switch Online subscription, Artificial scarcity of NES/SNES mini, Restricting availability of old games, Requiring YouTube creators to surrender a sizeable cut of their profits, 
2021-05-22 02:53:31	@Anton{Politoed}	Adding advertisements to LEGO Mario voice lines, Refusing to fix issues causing Joy-Con drift at point of production, Underproduction of amiibo, Frequent takedowns of fan content, Reselling older games at the price of modern releases)
2021-05-22 02:53:51	@Anton{Politoed}	I've decided on Most Shameless Business Practice after discussing this with edo at-length the other day
2021-05-22 02:53:58	@Anton{Politoed}	we feel it's the inevitable compromise
2021-05-22 02:54:01	Honoka_Chaosaka	i'm fine with most shameless business practice
2021-05-22 02:54:10	Pitohui	That works.
2021-05-22 02:54:13	Honoka_Chaosaka	still emphasizes but doesn't feel like it limits the field
2021-05-22 02:54:23	Lakituthequick	has enough bite
2021-05-22 02:54:24	Gabumon	so is that a no on most shameless business decision
2021-05-22 02:54:31	Smasher	works for me
2021-05-22 02:54:40	@Anton{Politoed}	oh whoops
2021-05-22 02:54:46	Honoka_Chaosaka	i'd be fine with business decision too
2021-05-22 02:54:50	Smasher	also works for me
2021-05-22 02:54:50	Honoka_Chaosaka	i just didn't even know it was an option lol
2021-05-22 02:54:55	@Anton{Politoed}	must've just copied the wrong one
2021-05-22 02:55:25	Gabumon	it's something that came up while anton was running the options by me
2021-05-22 02:55:32	@Anton{Politoed}	definition is also rough
2021-05-22 02:55:36	@Anton{Politoed}	"-This award recognizes unpopular choices that Nintendo has made as a company affecting the Mario franchise, that, whether they are financially profitable or not, remain arguably immoral, unethical, or anti-fan all in the sake of profit or carelessness."
2021-05-22 02:55:54	@Anton{Politoed}	very wordy, but can't find a way to satisfactorily shorten it
2021-05-22 02:56:06	Honoka_Chaosaka	this is me being nitpicky but 
2021-05-22 02:56:10	Honoka_Chaosaka	i think a comma after anti-fan would help
2021-05-22 02:56:11	Smasher	wordy but gets the point across
2021-05-22 02:56:19	Honoka_Chaosaka	i tried to parse "all in" as part of "anti-" at first
2021-05-22 02:56:26	Lakituthequick	i don't know if carelessness is the right word to use
2021-05-22 02:56:35	Lakituthequick	as these things are usually carefully considered
2021-05-22 02:56:41	@Anton{Politoed}	recklessness
2021-05-22 02:56:43	Gabumon	I'd say anti-consumer, personally
2021-05-22 02:56:46	Lakituthequick	while the rest still applies
2021-05-22 02:57:05	Gabumon	anti-fan sounds kind of immature
2021-05-22 02:57:21	@Anton{Politoed}	i agree, i just wanted to cover that base of like
2021-05-22 02:57:24	@Anton{Politoed}	pissing off fans
2021-05-22 02:57:39	@Anton{Politoed}	all suggested changes applied so far
2021-05-22 02:57:41	@__2257	i dunno if you have to hedge this much honestly
2021-05-22 02:57:44	Smasher	anti-consumer feels correct to me
2021-05-22 02:58:00	Gabumon	also, I think it's "for the sake of"
2021-05-22 02:58:07	Gabumon	or "in the spirit of"
2021-05-22 02:58:18	@turb	i think for the sake of sounds better here
2021-05-22 02:58:25	@__2257	you could just say "immoral, unethical, or anticonsumer decisions made in the name of profit"
2021-05-22 02:58:38	Gabumon	yeah, thats good
2021-05-22 02:58:48	@Anton{Politoed}	as the complete definition, or
2021-05-22 02:59:06	Smasher	agreed with turb
2021-05-22 02:59:21	@__2257	well i guess you could make it less of a sentence fragment but i  just dont think you have to say stuff like "arguably" or "wehther or not"
2021-05-22 02:59:36	@__2257	people will choose the decisions they think are in fact immoral
2021-05-22 02:59:39	@__2257	if there are any
2021-05-22 02:59:49	@__2257	and if not i just dont know what to tell those people 
2021-05-22 03:00:09	@Anton{Politoed}	I added those for the sake of distancing us from editorializing
2021-05-22 03:00:28	@__2257	i think it's editorialising to have this at all
2021-05-22 03:00:38	@__2257	but some editorialisations need to be made
2021-05-22 03:00:52	@Anton{Politoed}	but we are presenting a list of options to select from, not a written decree of what is
2021-05-22 03:01:33	@Anton{Politoed}	while I do agree that there's room for editorializing, I feel this is appropriate
2021-05-22 03:01:42	@Anton{Politoed}	though, if no one else does, then it can be changed
2021-05-22 03:02:10	@__2257	idk you said it was wordy, so im telling you which words i think can be cut
2021-05-22 03:02:40	Gabumon	I think this award will draw ire no matter how you word things
2021-05-22 03:02:42	@Anton{Politoed}	what I pasted here is how whittled down I was able to make it lol
2021-05-22 03:02:56	@__2257	i dont think the hedging really adds anything and it kind of runs counter to the push to phrase the title as 'most shameless' instead of something softer
2021-05-22 03:03:31	Gabumon	"Decisions largely perceived as immoral, unethical, or anticonsumer, made in the name of profit"
2021-05-22 03:04:23	@Anton{Politoed}	should we bother saying decisions by nintendo re: mario, or is that fair to be assumed
2021-05-22 03:04:40	@__2257	re: mario seems implied at least
2021-05-22 03:04:54	@__2257	you *could* add by nintendo but idk who else would even be a candidate
2021-05-22 03:05:06	Gabumon	I mean technically the decision to have lego mario spout ads could have been made by lego
2021-05-22 03:05:10	@__2257	unless next level games is secretly shady 
2021-05-22 03:05:13	@Anton{Politoed}	 3rd party companies yeah, so
2021-05-22 03:05:17	Gabumon	I don't really think it matters though
2021-05-22 03:05:18	@Anton{Politoed}	I guess I'll leave it open for that
2021-05-22 03:05:44	@Anton{Politoed}	edo's wording it is
2021-05-22 03:05:46	@Anton{Politoed}	:clap:
2021-05-22 03:05:48	Gabumon	we're the mario wiki, so mario should always be assumed
2021-05-22 03:06:03	Gabumon	unless explicitly stated otherwise
2021-05-22 03:06:19	@Anton{Politoed}	as for the nominees, are there any questions, concerns, suggestions, or additions?
2021-05-22 03:06:27	Pitohui	Haven't said a lot while this was being worked out but I support Edo's wording
2021-05-22 03:06:43	@Anton{Politoed}	there are 11
2021-05-22 03:06:44	Rose_	All seems well to me
2021-05-22 03:06:45	Pitohui	Regarding nominees, there's nothing more from me
2021-05-22 03:06:57	@Anton{Politoed}	I don't feel it's NECESSARY to approach 15, but _
2021-05-22 03:07:05	Lakituthequick	welcome to mariowiki, the following poll is about stupid things sony did recently
2021-05-22 03:07:31	@Anton{Politoed}	i mean, it took brute force for me to expel smash from awards a few years ago, people were not happy
2021-05-22 03:07:37	Lakituthequick	poll's okay to me
2021-05-22 03:07:43	Gabumon	I feel like underproduction of amiibo and artificial scarcity of NES SNES mini could be combinable into one item
2021-05-22 03:07:44	Lakituthequick	i was happy
2021-05-22 03:09:01	Gabumon	something like artificial scarcity (NES/SNES mini, certain amiibo)
2021-05-22 03:09:15	@turb	i like that idea
2021-05-22 03:09:23	Lakituthequick	was it only certain amiibo?
2021-05-22 03:09:30	@turb	i think it should be certain amiibo also because like
2021-05-22 03:09:32	@Anton{Politoed}	that might vault it to an obvious winner
2021-05-22 03:09:48	@turb	i brought this up last meeting but as far as i know the underproduction wasnt actually intentional for a lot of them
2021-05-22 03:09:50	@Anton{Politoed}	not that I'm opposed to the wording by nature, but it's a consideration
2021-05-22 03:09:51	@turb	theyre very common nowadays
2021-05-22 03:09:56	@Anton{Politoed}	I guess we'll see if it happens
2021-05-22 03:09:57	@turb	that might also make the merge less appealing though
2021-05-22 03:10:05	@turb	because i'm unsure which ones were truly underproduced on purpose
2021-05-22 03:11:46	@Anton{Politoed}	combined for now
2021-05-22 03:11:49	@Anton{Politoed}	any other concerns?
2021-05-22 03:12:34	@__2257	murdering detractors
2021-05-22 03:12:35	Lakituthequick	i have no witty jokes so, no, not from me
2021-05-22 03:12:51	Pitohui	I've got nothing to add here.
2021-05-22 03:12:56	Rose_	All good
2021-05-22 03:13:05	@Anton{Politoed}	gr8
2021-05-22 03:13:08	@Anton{Politoed}	time 4 community awards
2021-05-22 03:13:11	Lakituthequick	woo
2021-05-22 03:13:25	@Anton{Politoed}	I'll let Pitohui take the wheel mostly
2021-05-22 03:13:40	@Anton{Politoed}	but I will still officiate votes and decisions
2021-05-22 03:14:00	Lakituthequick	as writeins are mostly not a thing, i'll refrain from posting the last places for these
2021-05-22 03:14:15	Pitohui	Alright. So we're going to start with C1. Conveniently, that poll in the thread gave us a nice exact 18 highest placing nominees, so the first thing I will do is paste them all in here
2021-05-22 03:14:29	@Anton{Politoed}	joy
2021-05-22 03:14:34	Pitohui	My thought is we can use those as a base list and people can raise objections to specific nominees if they have them
2021-05-22 03:14:46	Pitohui	C1: Superchao, Lakituthequick, Anton, Hooded Pitohui, winstein, Roserade, Ninja Squid, Baby Luigi, Shoey, MrConcreteDonkey, Goombuigi, Waluigi Time, Doomhiker, BBQ Turtle, Yoshi876, Quizmelon, FunkyK38, Booguette
2021-05-22 03:14:56	Pitohui	These are our tentative 18
2021-05-22 03:15:12	Smasher	sorry i had to step out a bit
2021-05-22 03:15:21	Lakituthequick	C1 is Favorite Active Shroom Writer
2021-05-22 03:15:27	NinjaSquid	what is the definition for C1?
2021-05-22 03:15:48	Lakituthequick	C1 - Favorite Active 'Shroom Writer - This award aims to recognize those writers who have written consistently within the last year.
2021-05-22 03:15:48	Smasher	yeah i needed to know what c1 is but looks ok
2021-05-22 03:15:49	Pitohui	C1 - Favorite Active 'Shroom Writer - This award aims to recognize those writers who have written consistently within the last year.
2021-05-22 03:16:06	Rose_	On the one hand, giving Booguette the honor is good, on the other hand, has he written consistently? 
2021-05-22 03:16:32	Rose_	I mean honestly I'm good with him being on there anyway because he's 9 and that would be really cool for him
2021-05-22 03:16:33	Pitohui	The Community Dossier has a different definition it's used in recent years
2021-05-22 03:16:38	Rose_	But just as a general thought
2021-05-22 03:16:42	NinjaSquid	i was wondering about Zelen, because she was an "active writer" during that time period...
2021-05-22 03:16:47	Pitohui	"This award recognizes the efforts of writers who have regularly contributed sections to The 'Shroom in the past year. Though some writers have extensive histories with The 'Shroom, their submissions within the past year should be the primary consideration for this award."
2021-05-22 03:16:54	@__2257	he's... 9? 9 years old??
2021-05-22 03:17:04	@turb	oh yeah wiki contributor award i'll be here for but need to grab a full list for
2021-05-22 03:17:07	@turb	it will need to be culled down
2021-05-22 03:17:08	NinjaSquid	9/10 yes
2021-05-22 03:17:13	Pitohui	Yeah, 22, he had his mother log on and represent him
2021-05-22 03:17:14	Rose_	Maybe 10 but something young, his mom runs the account he's in
2021-05-22 03:17:15	@__2257	is that allowed...?
2021-05-22 03:17:18	@__2257	oh
2021-05-22 03:17:19	@turb	they suggested like 24 people
2021-05-22 03:17:20	@__2257	ok
2021-05-22 03:17:25	Lakituthequick	communications go through his mother yeah
2021-05-22 03:17:28	@turb	also yeah his mom runs the account so we've let him stay
2021-05-22 03:17:36	Smasher	nice
2021-05-22 03:17:40	@turb	good kid
2021-05-22 03:17:54	Pitohui	In general this Award has run on "people who've written sections in the past year and are in good standing and haven't retired from writing"
2021-05-22 03:17:58	@turb	also i said i'd be here for contributor award but i might go make dinner so if i'm not here we can bring it up later
2021-05-22 03:18:38	Pitohui	If we want to remove Booguette, there are exactly three nominees tied in the next highest rank, so we could add one of them to stay at 18 or add all three and go to our expanded cap of 20 from last year
2021-05-22 03:18:48	Pitohui	Those three are: Alex95, Koops, Magolor04726
2021-05-22 03:18:52	Honoka_Chaosaka	yeah if booguette ever showed up in person i'd have to kick his ass but 
2021-05-22 03:19:00	Honoka_Chaosaka	hi smom can represent him andi t's okay
2021-05-22 03:19:02	Lakituthequick	either way Booguettes sections are cute so I'm mostly indifferent
2021-05-22 03:19:43	Lakituthequick	the third option is using 17
2021-05-22 03:19:50	Lakituthequick	if you go the delete boo route
2021-05-22 03:19:51	@Anton{Politoed}	I would prefer to not do an expanded cap of 20
2021-05-22 03:19:55	Pitohui	Does anyone feel particularly strongly about Booguette's inclusion/exclusion?
2021-05-22 03:20:10	NinjaSquid	i know Booguette did very nice sections, but that wasn't like on a regular basis, which is what C1 is covering, right?
2021-05-22 03:20:11	@Anton{Politoed}	I'll leave that for situations where a complete listing of everyone as a potential nominee ends up being just over, not something like this
2021-05-22 03:20:13	Lakituthequick	exactly how many sections are there
2021-05-22 03:20:15	@__2257	i wonder if he's the first shroom writer younger than the shroom
2021-05-22 03:20:21	Pitohui	Two, LTQ
2021-05-22 03:20:22	Honoka_Chaosaka	god he IS
2021-05-22 03:20:27	Honoka_Chaosaka	that's fucking with me now that you pointed it out
2021-05-22 03:20:30	Lakituthequick	eeehhh
2021-05-22 03:20:42	Lakituthequick	two is very little for 'consistent'
2021-05-22 03:20:57	Honoka_Chaosaka	im fine replacing boo and doing a runoff
2021-05-22 03:21:00	Pitohui	NS, for this award I tend to just include anyone who's written in the past year and in good standing, cast as wide a net as possible
2021-05-22 03:21:09	@Anton{Politoed}	we also have to consider the polarization that community awards do get
2021-05-22 03:21:24	@Anton{Politoed}	would we want to bear witness to booguette getting 0-3 votes
2021-05-22 03:21:35	Lakituthequick	good point
2021-05-22 03:21:49	Pitohui	That's indeed a good point
2021-05-22 03:21:58	Pitohui	On that basis, I think it might be best to remove him
2021-05-22 03:22:01	Lakituthequick	i'm erring on the side of "let's wait one or two years" now
2021-05-22 03:22:01	@turb	:worry:
2021-05-22 03:22:06	NinjaSquid	in that case, i'm fine with a swap for either alex/koops/mags
2021-05-22 03:22:24	Pitohui	Should we do a 1/2/3 vote on which one of those three to swap in?
2021-05-22 03:22:39	@Anton{Politoed}	yes, but if we could have their sections linked or listed first
2021-05-22 03:22:52	Pitohui	I'll grab the examples I linked in the thread
2021-05-22 03:23:25	Pitohui	Koops: https://www.mariowiki.com/The_%27Shroom:Issue_163/Strategy_Wing#Koops,_Your_Emblem_is_on_Fire
2021-05-22 03:23:34	Pitohui	Alex: https://www.mariowiki.com/The_%27Shroom:Issue_165/Pipe_Plaza#NIWA_News
2021-05-22 03:23:40	Pitohui	Magolor: https://www.mariowiki.com/The_%27Shroom:Issue_169/Palette_Swap#World_of_Plight
2021-05-22 03:25:10	@Anton{Politoed}	Vote: Select one to add: (Koops, Alex, Magolor, a)
2021-05-22 03:25:19	Lakituthequick	koops
2021-05-22 03:25:22	Pitohui	Koops
2021-05-22 03:25:26	@turb	koops
2021-05-22 03:25:29	Rose_	Magolor
2021-05-22 03:25:33	@__2257	a
2021-05-22 03:25:42	Smasher	a
2021-05-22 03:25:43	NinjaSquid	Magolor
2021-05-22 03:25:50	Honoka_Chaosaka	kooops
2021-05-22 03:25:53	Gabumon	a
2021-05-22 03:25:58	Smasher	4-0-2-3
2021-05-22 03:27:02	@Anton{Politoed}	tough
2021-05-22 03:27:29	@Anton{Politoed}	people who voted a, is it a true abstention or a preference for 17
2021-05-22 03:27:41	Smasher	true abstention
2021-05-22 03:28:00	Gabumon	true dat
2021-05-22 03:28:20	@Anton{Politoed}	ok so when i vote koops that kinda seals it then
2021-05-22 03:28:28	Smasher	i think 18 is fine but i dont always have time to read everything so i dont know if i feel qualified to vote
2021-05-22 03:28:40	Smasher	from what i have read i probably lean koops, but
2021-05-22 03:29:03	@__2257	yeah im abstaining
2021-05-22 03:29:08	@__2257	i dont prefer 17
2021-05-22 03:29:16	@Anton{Politoed}	I think this uhhhhh
2021-05-22 03:29:23	@Anton{Politoed}	effectively makes this award unchanged?
2021-05-22 03:29:28	@Anton{Politoed}	if I'm looking at it correctly lol
2021-05-22 03:29:56	NinjaSquid	i love Koops' section, but I went with Mags due to them writting more consistently right now, so I want to give them priority for that
2021-05-22 03:29:58	Pitohui	It looks like it
2021-05-22 03:30:06	Lakituthequick	i'm looking at the diff now
2021-05-22 03:30:07	Rose_	Yeah per ns
2021-05-22 03:30:14	Rose_	Also I'm pretty sure I'm new to the award
2021-05-22 03:30:32	Lakituthequick	tyhere are several cahnges alright
2021-05-22 03:30:36	@Anton{Politoed}	oh ok
2021-05-22 03:30:43	@Anton{Politoed}	who
2021-05-22 03:30:50	@Anton{Politoed}	just for recordkeeping
2021-05-22 03:31:02	Pitohui	Oh, I was looking at the Full List when Anton said that, no wonder I thought it ended up unchanged
2021-05-22 03:31:08	Lakituthequick	deleted: coffee, gpm, lb, magolor, zange
2021-05-22 03:31:20	Lakituthequick	added: baby luigi, doom, rose, shoey, waluigi time
2021-05-22 03:32:01	Lakituthequick	ah
2021-05-22 03:32:07	Lakituthequick	sgow is also yeeted
2021-05-22 03:32:59	@Anton{Politoed}	gr8
2021-05-22 03:33:02	@Anton{Politoed}	time for C2
2021-05-22 03:33:18	Pitohui	Alright, onto C2: Favorite Retired 'Shroom Writer
2021-05-22 03:33:27	Pitohui	"This award is designed to recognize those writers who have retired from their positions and no longer regularly submit sections to The 'Shroom."
2021-05-22 03:33:37	Pitohui	I have a few simple removals and then some additions
2021-05-22 03:33:50	Pitohui	Remove: Shoey, Raregold, Baby Luigi, Roserade (14)
2021-05-22 03:33:56	Pitohui	They've all started writing again
2021-05-22 03:34:04	Pitohui	Don't worry about the 14 I didn't mean to copy that
2021-05-22 03:34:13	Pitohui	Add: Lord Bowser, Zange, ZelenPixel
2021-05-22 03:34:14	Smasher	(14)
2021-05-22 03:34:15	@__2257	what did you do with the first 13 rosrades
2021-05-22 03:34:29	Rose_	All of his shadows
2021-05-22 03:34:38	Pitohui	Those three have stopped writing (LB, Zange) or have officially finished their section without picking up a new one (Zelen)
2021-05-22 03:34:48	@turb	bbl
2021-05-22 03:35:36	@Anton{Politoed}	I have no arguments against any of this
2021-05-22 03:35:44	Pitohui	There's also Shy Guy on Wheels to consider adding to bring it to 18, but he ultimately only ever ended up sending in one section, so I'm ___ on him
2021-05-22 03:35:45	Honoka_Chaosaka	rubber stamp
2021-05-22 03:35:46	Lakituthequick	hold on one second re: c1
2021-05-22 03:35:55	Lakituthequick	for some reason i come to 19 now
2021-05-22 03:35:55	Rose_	No need for SGoW I'd say
2021-05-22 03:36:10	Lakituthequick	alex wasn't added to the list yet, is that correcy
2021-05-22 03:36:27	Smasher	he wasnt no
2021-05-22 03:36:31	Pitohui	Alex wasn't selected to be added to C1
2021-05-22 03:36:43	Lakituthequick	without him i get to 18
2021-05-22 03:37:28	Pitohui	So then we're good on C1 and C2?
2021-05-22 03:37:40	NinjaSquid	yes
2021-05-22 03:37:42	Lakituthequick	i'll review c1 after the meeting
2021-05-22 03:38:06	Lakituthequick	for c2 i don't see odd things in the three seconds i looked at it now
2021-05-22 03:38:09	Smasher	whats the full c2 list again just out of curiosity
2021-05-22 03:38:18	@Anton{Politoed}	Favorite Retired 'Shroom Writer (Mr. Edo, Super Mario Bros., Toadbert101, Andymii, Shokora, Tucayo, YKMR3000, Luigi 64DD, Smasher, Meta Knight, The Pyro Guy, Mariofan169, MsRetroGeek, Parakoopa144, Lord Bowser, Zange, ZelenPixel)
2021-05-22 03:38:26	Smasher	thank
2021-05-22 03:38:31	Smasher	forgot i was on here lol
2021-05-22 03:38:52	Smasher	eventually ill try to write again
2021-05-22 03:38:57	Smasher	just need to make the time
2021-05-22 03:39:03	@Anton{Politoed}	c3 time
2021-05-22 03:39:18	Pitohui	"C3. Favorite Artist
2021-05-22 03:39:18	Pitohui	This award recognizes some of the many artists in this community, each with unique talents, styles, and media."
2021-05-22 03:39:46	Pitohui	We also magically ended up with 18 here after running the thread poll so I'm going to paste those in and, again, object if you have an objection
2021-05-22 03:39:48	Pitohui	Fawfulthegreat64,, Lakituthequick, Anton, The Pyro Guy, BBQ Turtle, GBAToad, Zange, ZelenPixel, Waluigi Time, Baby Luigi, winstein, Toadbert101, Turboo, Koopa con Carne, SMG2Daisy, Magolor04726, Snack, Alex95
2021-05-22 03:40:01	@Anton{Politoed}	:clap:
2021-05-22 03:40:25	Smasher	:tada:
2021-05-22 03:40:48	Pitohui	(Do note that this excludes Edo, per his post in the thread - https://www.marioboards.com/threads/43841/post-2272755)
2021-05-22 03:40:58	Pitohui	Otherwise it would have been 19
2021-05-22 03:41:05	@Anton{Politoed}	a note for those coming in to the logs with no access to the staff board, edo has opted out of this award, indicating interest in prioritizing people who are active in the community and sharing art in public branches i.e. shroom
2021-05-22 03:41:19	Lakituthequick	let's see the diffs
2021-05-22 03:41:38	Pitohui	Sorry I don't have the diffs already prepared for the tallied results, LTQ
2021-05-22 03:41:59	Lakituthequick	added: alex, baby luigi, koopa con carne, snack, waluigi time, winstein
2021-05-22 03:42:20	Lakituthequick	removed: doc, koops, moldomré, edo, rose
2021-05-22 03:44:25	@Anton{Politoed}	c 444444444444444444444444444444444
2021-05-22 03:44:36	Lakituthequick	boom
2021-05-22 03:44:43	Pitohui	C4. Favorite 2020 Awards Presentation
2021-05-22 03:44:44	Pitohui	This award recognizes the creativity, humor, and work put into the presentations revealed at the 2020 Awards ceremony.
2021-05-22 03:44:51	Pitohui	Okay, I tallied this during the meeting earlier
2021-05-22 03:44:58	Pitohui	We've ended up with the dreaded 19
2021-05-22 03:45:08	Lakituthequick	did we
2021-05-22 03:45:09	Pitohui	I'll post them and then point out the bottom two if we want to cut one of them
2021-05-22 03:45:26	Lakituthequick	by my view we go from 14th to 19th
2021-05-22 03:46:07	Smasher	oh no
2021-05-22 03:46:17	Pitohui	C6 - Favorite 'Shroom Team - Lakituthequick, C8 - Best 'Shroom Section Design - MrConcreteDonkey
2021-05-22 03:46:17	Pitohui	, M5 - Favorite DK Game - Epic Nitwit, M17 - Favorite Mario RPG - Fawfulthegreat64, M18 - Favorite Mario Party Game - MrConcreteDonkey, M23 - Favorite Capture - Hearts
2021-05-22 03:46:18	Pitohui	M28 - Favorite Game Setting - BBQ Turtle
2021-05-22 03:46:19	Pitohui	C2 - Favorite Retired 'Shroom Writer - GBAToad
2021-05-22 03:46:19	Pitohui	M1 - Best Sound Design - The Pyro Guy
2021-05-22 03:46:20	Pitohui	M10 - Favorite Lyrical Song - Zange & Roserade
2021-05-22 03:46:20	Pitohui	M4 - Favorite Mario Kart Course - Eleven
2021-05-22 03:46:20	Pitohui	M19 - Favorite Villain - Anton
2021-05-22 03:46:21	Pitohui	M29 - Favorite Classic Game (GCN/GBA and older) - Gabumon
2021-05-22 03:46:21	Pitohui	F8 - Worst Mario Kart Course - Gabumon
2021-05-22 03:46:22	Pitohui	F7 - Worst Enemy - Baby Luigi
2021-05-22 03:46:23	Pitohui	M13 - Favorite Level Theme - Toadbert101 & Super-Yoshi
2021-05-22 03:46:23	Pitohui	M15 - Favorite Instrumental Track - Roserade & Zange & The Pyro Guy
2021-05-22 03:46:23	Pitohui	M22 - Favorite Battle Course - Baby Luigi
2021-05-22 03:46:24	Pitohui	F4 - Worst RPG Area - Uniju
2021-05-22 03:46:25	Pitohui	What the
2021-05-22 03:46:26	Lakituthequick	which puts us at exactly 18
2021-05-22 03:46:27	Pitohui	Okay it formatted funky
2021-05-22 03:46:39	@Anton{Politoed}	:clap:
2021-05-22 03:47:13	Lakituthequick	these are 
2021-05-22 03:47:16	Lakituthequick	1. C6 - Favorite 'Shroom Team - Lakituthequick Votes: 7 87.5% 
2021-05-22 03:47:16	Lakituthequick	1. C8 - Best 'Shroom Section Design - MrConcreteDonkey Votes: 7 87.5% 
2021-05-22 03:47:16	Lakituthequick	1. M17 - Favorite Mario RPG - Fawfulthegreat64 Votes: 7 87.5% 
2021-05-22 03:47:16	Lakituthequick	1. M18 - Favorite Mario Party Game - MrConcreteDonkey Votes: 7 87.5% 
2021-05-22 03:47:16	Lakituthequick	1. M23 - Favorite Capture - Hearts Votes: 7 87.5% 
2021-05-22 03:47:16	Lakituthequick	1. M28 - Favorite Game Setting - BBQ Turtle Votes: 7 87.5% 
2021-05-22 03:47:16	Lakituthequick	1. M5 - Favorite DK Game - Epic Nitwit Votes: 7 87.5% 
2021-05-22 03:47:16	Lakituthequick	8. C2 - Favorite Retired 'Shroom Writer - GBAToad Votes: 6 75.0% 
2021-05-22 03:47:16	Lakituthequick	8. M1 - Best Sound Design - The Pyro Guy Votes: 6 75.0% 
2021-05-22 03:47:16	Lakituthequick	8. M10 - Favorite Lyrical Song - Zange & Roserade Votes: 6 75.0% 
2021-05-22 03:47:16	Lakituthequick	8. M19 - Favorite Villain - Anton Votes: 6 75.0% 
2021-05-22 03:47:16	Lakituthequick	8. M29 - Favorite Classic Game (GCN/GBA and older) - Gabumon Votes: 6 75.0% 
2021-05-22 03:47:16	Lakituthequick	8. M4 - Favorite Mario Kart Course - Eleven Votes: 6 75.0% 
2021-05-22 03:47:16	Lakituthequick	14. C4 - Favorite 2019 Awards Presentation - The Pyro Guy Votes: 5 62.5% 
2021-05-22 03:47:16	Lakituthequick	14. F7 - Worst Enemy - Baby Luigi Votes: 5 62.5% 
2021-05-22 03:47:16	Lakituthequick	14. F8 - Worst Mario Kart Course - Gabumon Votes: 5 62.5% 
2021-05-22 03:47:16	Lakituthequick	14. M13 - Favorite Level Theme - Toadbert101 & Super-Yoshi Votes: 5 62.5% 
2021-05-22 03:47:16	Lakituthequick	14. M15 - Favorite Instrumental Track - Roserade & Zange & The Pyro Guy Votes: 5 62.5% 
2021-05-22 03:48:07	Smasher	that is indeed 18
2021-05-22 03:48:09	Lakituthequick	i hope i didn't blow up irc with these
2021-05-22 03:48:11	Pitohui	I trust LTQ's tallying more than the tallying I did during the meeting so go with his list
2021-05-22 03:48:42	Lakituthequick	i discovered earlier today that the script i posted last year is outdated
2021-05-22 03:49:01	Lakituthequick	i added the rankings at the start to them 
2021-05-22 03:49:07	Lakituthequick	will also post after meeting
2021-05-22 03:49:26	Pitohui	So I think we're basically looking at taking LTQ's list wholesale, unless there's any concerns
2021-05-22 03:49:56	Lakituthequick	i like how there are just three groups of ties
2021-05-22 03:50:01	Lakituthequick	1, 8 and 14
2021-05-22 03:50:15	Lakituthequick	otherwise no points
2021-05-22 03:50:38	Lakituthequick	also all options got at least one vote
2021-05-22 03:50:41	Lakituthequick	neat
2021-05-22 03:51:00	@Anton{Politoed}	gr888
2021-05-22 03:51:03	@Anton{Politoed}	c5 then?
2021-05-22 03:51:11	@Anton{Politoed}	paging turb
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2021-05-22 03:51:36	Pitohui	Turboo should have the info for this one
2021-05-22 03:51:59	@Anton{Politoed}	he said bbl so let's move to C6 instead for now
2021-05-22 03:52:24	Pitohui	(Meanwhile, delete the last two - Battle Course and RPG Area in C4 in the Full List, Anton. Those were from my list, LTQ's was more accurate)
2021-05-22 03:52:55	Pitohui	C6 is a very difficult award, everyone
2021-05-22 03:52:57	Pitohui	C6. Favorite 'Shroom Team
2021-05-22 03:52:57	Pitohui	This award honors the different teams that are a part of The 'Shroom.
2021-05-22 03:53:04	Pitohui	(No changes here)
2021-05-22 03:53:18	@__2257	we should add the shroom cabal
2021-05-22 03:53:42	@__2257	its time they were recognised for thier years of difficult service in the name of shadowy meetings and string pulling
2021-05-22 03:54:09	Pitohui	So on that note, I'm going to start talking about C7 because there's something special with this one
2021-05-22 03:54:14	Pitohui	Normally, C7 is
2021-05-22 03:54:16	Pitohui	C7. Favorite 'Shroom Core Staff
2021-05-22 03:54:16	Pitohui	This award aims to acknowledge some of the most prominent Core Staff members, both managers and team directors.
2021-05-22 03:54:18	Pitohui	But
2021-05-22 03:54:30	Pitohui	https://www.marioboards.com/threads/43740/post-2272754
2021-05-22 03:54:49	Pitohui	TPG has made a good alternative suggestion, and it looks like Core Staff is under consideration for a cut
2021-05-22 03:55:27	Pitohui	Personally, I think TPG has a solid suggestion, and I'm down for swapping it in here
2021-05-22 03:56:25	@Anton{Politoed}	last time we had a similar award was U7 Favorite Community Event in 2015  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15ZwYpnz5khaQGPM7UFzDVblQ1qgzqSUoeatzKoo_5jY/edit#gid=862096521
2021-05-22 03:57:35	@Anton{Politoed}	I'd say it's worth throwing a bone to community activity at the sacrifice of what's ultimately a self-indulgent redundant award
2021-05-22 03:57:43	Pitohui	I'll have to defer to Anton on how exactly he wants to handle making the swap and ironing out the proposed Award with any other additions folks might have (though TPG gave it a workable base already)
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2021-05-22 03:58:56	@Anton{Politoed}	the new award idea does seem solid, if but just a little tinkering of nominees and names
2021-05-22 03:59:08	@Anton{Politoed}	so the decision to be made is which award to remove
2021-05-22 03:59:09	Rose_	I agree with Anton
2021-05-22 03:59:11	Smasher	i'm down with this swap myself
2021-05-22 03:59:47	@Anton{Politoed}	and to explain "redundant", the core staff award is based on criteria that C10 is also based on
2021-05-22 03:59:51	Pitohui	Originally I voiced support for a C6 swap over C7, but after considering the cases made, I think it makes sense to swap it with C7
2021-05-22 04:00:12	@Anton{Politoed}	it's just simply more specific to the shroom
2021-05-22 04:00:24	@Anton{Politoed}	likely a holdover from the user awards and shroom awards merger
2021-05-22 04:00:30	NinjaSquid	i personally prefer to swap C7 myself
2021-05-22 04:00:52	Smasher	id rather swap c7 yeah
2021-05-22 04:01:04	Smasher	because of the redundancy
2021-05-22 04:01:28	@turb	sry i took a while to get my ass back here
2021-05-22 04:01:30	@turb	dinner was good
2021-05-22 04:01:35	@Anton{Politoed}	i'm glad
2021-05-22 04:01:45	@turb	I'm fine with switching out c7
2021-05-22 04:01:48	@Anton{Politoed}	i'm currently covering my bed with fried onion bits
2021-05-22 04:01:55	@Anton{Politoed}	oh shit it's 10
2021-05-22 04:01:58	@Anton{Politoed}	ok
2021-05-22 04:02:02	@turb	it's 7 pm here yeah so we can uhh
2021-05-22 04:02:06	@turb	look at wiki contrib next week
2021-05-22 04:02:07	@turb	first thing
2021-05-22 04:02:08	@Anton{Politoed}	so we're swapping out c7 gr8
2021-05-22 04:02:21	@Anton{Politoed}	you can lob all of the nominees though
2021-05-22 04:02:27	@turb	ok let me go grab them
2021-05-22 04:02:28	@__2257	so is awards a community event 
2021-05-22 04:02:28	@Anton{Politoed}	and we can mull over which ones to obliterate
2021-05-22 04:02:46	@Anton{Politoed}	yes, and it was considered as such in the former version of this award U7
2021-05-22 04:03:00	Lakituthequick	(btw i solved C1, i just got confused with the whole alex/koops thing)
2021-05-22 04:03:02	Pitohui	"you can lob all of the nominees though" - For the new C7, you mean?
2021-05-22 04:03:03	@Anton{Politoed}	I think it won
2021-05-22 04:03:08	@Anton{Politoed}	c5
2021-05-22 04:03:22	Pitohui	Oh you were talking to Turb
2021-05-22 04:03:25	Pitohui	Got it
2021-05-22 04:05:27	@turb	god why can't pastebin just function normally
2021-05-22 04:05:49	Pitohui	Pastebin has become garbage
2021-05-22 04:06:05	Pitohui	Bless LTQ for saving the community's old pastes
2021-05-22 04:06:13	Lakituthequick	:sledgeWink:
2021-05-22 04:07:06	@turb	fuck it just making a big paste in here now that it's compiled
2021-05-22 04:07:35	@turb	Alex95, Ray Trace, BBQ Turtle, Doc von Schmeltwick, Glowsquid, LuigiMaster123, Mario jc, Mister Wu, Koopa Con Carne, TheFlameChomp, LinkTheLefty, Doomhiker, The Mansion, Scrooge200, Waluigi Time, Infinite8, MarioComix, Keyblade Master, Wynn Liaw, 0blivion, RHG1951, Nintendo101, Pasta937, SuperLuigiDude
2021-05-22 04:07:36	@turb	Name changes:
2021-05-22 04:07:38	@turb	Baby Luigi -> Ray Trace
2021-05-22 04:07:39	@turb	Bye Guy -> Koopa Con Carne
2021-05-22 04:07:41	@turb	Removals:
2021-05-22 04:07:42	@turb	Lord Grammaticus
2021-05-22 04:07:44	@turb	Yoshi the SSM
2021-05-22 04:07:45	@turb	Obsessive Mario Fan
2021-05-22 04:07:47	@turb	Proposed possible additions:
2021-05-22 04:07:48	@turb	Archivist Toadette
2021-05-22 04:07:50	@turb	New additions:
2021-05-22 04:07:51	@turb	Keyblade Master, Wynn Liaw, 0blivion, RHG1951, Nintendo101, Pasta937, SuperLuigiDude
2021-05-22 04:07:53	@turb	sorry i forgot to have the removals all on one line
2021-05-22 04:08:04	@Anton{Politoed}	i 4giv you
2021-05-22 04:08:11	@turb	so yeah that's 24 people
2021-05-22 04:08:19	@turb	flame chomp brought that up and i will also bring that up
2021-05-22 04:08:23	@turb	in case we end up needing to axe people
2021-05-22 04:08:38	@turb	i guess it's a bit weird to do on this award but limits are limits
2021-05-22 04:08:43	@Anton{Politoed}	i would like to chop people
2021-05-22 04:08:44	@turb	well "end up"
2021-05-22 04:08:53	@turb	more like 99% confirmed to do and i want to too
2021-05-22 04:09:17	@Anton{Politoed}	idk if there's a way to make a thread for this and post up the reasons each of these peeps were suggested?
2021-05-22 04:09:24	@Anton{Politoed}	that way we can weigh it
2021-05-22 04:09:25	Pitohui	I also want to chop people, though I don't know who.
2021-05-22 04:09:27	@turb	that is something i will drop in the thread right now so it can be done by next week
2021-05-22 04:09:33	@turb	they had reasons alongside their nominations
2021-05-22 04:09:38	Pitohui	Oh, wonderful
2021-05-22 04:09:40	@turb	i can grab those and put them in an awards board thread
2021-05-22 04:09:43	@Anton{Politoed}	or if that work can be done by the people who know better, even better
2021-05-22 04:09:54	@Anton{Politoed}	that way I don't need to flip tarot cards to decide
2021-05-22 04:10:00	@turb	since we're running over, or I can ask that people make more "complete" reasons for each new person
2021-05-22 04:10:04	@turb	what would you say the limit should be for this
2021-05-22 04:10:10	@Anton{Politoed}	 18
2021-05-22 04:10:12	@turb	extended cap of 20 or just 18
2021-05-22 04:10:13	@turb	ok
2021-05-22 04:10:43	@__2257	what is the difference between the soft cap, the hard cap, and the extended cap
2021-05-22 04:10:48	@__2257	does anybody know
2021-05-22 04:10:58	Pitohui	It used to be based on PollDaddy's limits
2021-05-22 04:11:03	Pitohui	The hard cap, at least
2021-05-22 04:11:11	@Anton{Politoed}	yeah
2021-05-22 04:11:17	@Anton{Politoed}	polldaddy used to only allow up to 18
2021-05-22 04:11:18	Pitohui	Crowdsignal doesn't have that same limit but it sucks anyways!
2021-05-22 04:11:31	@Anton{Politoed}	soft cap of 15 was just a like, warning, approaching too many
2021-05-22 04:11:50	@Anton{Politoed}	 20 was because we didn't realize we were at 20
2021-05-22 04:11:53	@Anton{Politoed}	and the poll allowed it
2021-05-22 04:12:14	@Anton{Politoed}	theoretically we could have 50
2021-05-22 04:12:20	Lakituthequick	:worry:
2021-05-22 04:12:25	@Anton{Politoed}	but I would prefer less
2021-05-22 04:12:36	@Anton{Politoed}	and ESPECIALLY with community awards and its polarization
2021-05-22 04:13:03	Pitohui	"[8:09:04 PM] <@Anton{Politoed}> with our newfound ability to go over 18, I feel that community awards are something we can do that for
2021-05-22 04:13:04	Pitohui	[8:09:11 PM] <@Anton{Politoed}> but I don't want to push it too far
2021-05-22 04:13:04	Pitohui	[8:09:35 PM] <@turb> i think 20 isn't too far ahead
2021-05-22 04:13:04	Pitohui	[8:09:45 PM] <+Smasher> i can live with 20
2021-05-22 04:13:05	Pitohui	[8:09:47 PM] <@turb> imo getting to like 23-25 nominees for something would be kinda _
2021-05-22 04:13:06	Pitohui	[8:09:47 PM] <+Rose> I'm content with adding all proposed additions
2021-05-22 04:13:06	Pitohui	[8:10:09 PM] <Pitohui> If we're going over 18, I think 20's a fine number, so we can add them wholesale"
2021-05-22 04:13:08	Pitohui	https://smw.ltquick.nl/irclogs/awards20meeting6
2021-05-22 04:13:19	Pitohui	Oh, Anton beat me to it but this is where 20 came from last year
2021-05-22 04:13:30	@__2257	personally ive always felt like even 15 is a lot (this is not a request to remove anything from any award)
2021-05-22 04:13:41	@Anton{Politoed}	I agree
2021-05-22 04:13:47	@Anton{Politoed}	with both ends of the sentiment
2021-05-22 04:14:29	@Anton{Politoed}	but that being said
2021-05-22 04:14:33	@Anton{Politoed}	c5 will get worked on
2021-05-22 04:14:41	@Anton{Politoed}	next meeting we'll likely finish community awards
2021-05-22 04:14:48	@Anton{Politoed}	after that uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh not much!
2021-05-22 04:14:59	@Anton{Politoed}	new c7 will get worked on
2021-05-22 04:15:19	@Anton{Politoed}	then full review
2021-05-22 04:15:24	Pitohui	I've got C8, C9, and C10 ready to go for next meeting (and I also realized we didn't discuss a couple straggler sections for C1 so we might circle back to that next meeting briefly, too)
2021-05-22 04:15:25	Lakituthequick	👏 full 👏 review 👏
2021-05-22 04:16:16	@Anton{Politoed}	have fun being asleep everyone!
2021-05-22 04:16:20	@Anton{Politoed}	i'm gonna continue eating