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2021-06-06 02:00:09	Pitohui	Hello, you two
2021-06-06 02:00:41	Shoey	hooded
2021-06-06 02:00:48	@Anton{Politoed}	awards time
2021-06-06 02:00:56	Smasher	i may not be able to say much for a while, i've been out of the house all day and i got back a while ago but i havent quite settled back in yet
2021-06-06 02:01:17	@Anton{Politoed}	pretty much all we're doing today is the review of all awards
2021-06-06 02:01:31	@Anton{Politoed}	so before we begin, are there any subjects or things anyone wants to bring up for discussion?
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2021-06-06 02:01:54	NinjaSquid	hello!
2021-06-06 02:02:02	Shoey	I wanna talk about a change on favorite active writer 
2021-06-06 02:02:07	Shoey	but i can wait
2021-06-06 02:02:18	Pitohui	All of the points I have for this evening are ones I can bring up when we get to the relevant awards.
2021-06-06 02:02:33	Pitohui	Otherwise, just will confirm the Dossier is being worked on and will be ready by the 11th
2021-06-06 02:02:47	NinjaSquid	same as shoey lol
2021-06-06 02:02:50	@turb	oh right the c5 notes
2021-06-06 02:02:52	@turb	i forgot
2021-06-06 02:02:57	@turb	uh i can get those to you like tomrorow at the latest
2021-06-06 02:03:01	@turb	probably
2021-06-06 02:03:24	Pitohui	No big worries, Turb. I'm planning on a big work session on Monday, anyways, after we finalize things tonight
2021-06-06 02:03:47	@Anton{Politoed}	alright so
2021-06-06 02:03:48	@Anton{Politoed}	https://docs.google.com/document/d/17UqmmbRi62NbK3clskZAN2hitNPeZF7F_9tDr615MJU/edit
2021-06-06 02:03:59	@Anton{Politoed}	the intent with this review is to be crushingly thorough
2021-06-06 02:04:10	@Anton{Politoed}	to move through with haste, but not rush
2021-06-06 02:04:39	@Anton{Politoed}	we're looking for errors of any sort, from incorrect names, typos, punctuation, capitalization, anything
2021-06-06 02:05:10	@Anton{Politoed}	the goal is to complete all awards by the end of the night, so this may run over a little bit
2021-06-06 02:05:27	@Anton{Politoed}	as this is an estimate of like 2.2 minutes per award
2021-06-06 02:05:32	@Anton{Politoed}	so let's-a-go
2021-06-06 02:05:55	@Anton{Politoed}	M1 Best Sound Design (Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Super Mario 64, Super Mario World, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, Super Paper Mario, Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest, Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze,
2021-06-06 02:05:56	@Anton{Politoed}	Mario Kart 8/Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Mario & Luigi: Dream Team, Paper Mario: Color Splash, Super Mario Odyssey, Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle, Luigi's Mansion 3, Paper Mario: The Origami King)
2021-06-06 02:06:20	NinjaSquid	looks alright
2021-06-06 02:06:33	Pitohui	I'm not seeing any issues here
2021-06-06 02:06:36	@turb	does ltq have notes on these for potential changes
2021-06-06 02:06:42	@turb	i think this one seems fine though
2021-06-06 02:06:53	@_2257	should uh
2021-06-06 02:06:54	@Anton{Politoed}	ltq is our review champion so I'll defer to him for most things
2021-06-06 02:06:54	Lakituthequick	I do not have notes for this one no
2021-06-06 02:07:05	@_2257	mk8 be changed to mk8d so it matches 3dw+bf etc
2021-06-06 02:07:53	@Anton{Politoed}	i'm not opposed
2021-06-06 02:07:55	@turb	sure
2021-06-06 02:08:14	Smasher	that one makes sense
2021-06-06 02:08:24	@Anton{Politoed}	so just remove the entire "Mario Kart 8/" part and leave the other half after the / ?
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2021-06-06 02:08:39	@_2257	i think so
2021-06-06 02:08:41	@_2257	bye
2021-06-06 02:08:51	Smasher	yeah, that work
2021-06-06 02:08:53	Smasher	s
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2021-06-06 02:09:03	@_2257	welcome
2021-06-06 02:09:03	Lakituthequick	This would also apply to M2 and M30 then
2021-06-06 02:09:07	Smasher	no one plays a wii u anymore anyway
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2021-06-06 02:09:21	Smasher	that's alright with me i think
2021-06-06 02:09:30	@_2257	yeah i mean i thihnk it should apply across the board
2021-06-06 02:09:34	@Anton{Politoed}	changes reflected in M2 and M30
2021-06-06 02:09:35	@turb	same
2021-06-06 02:09:39	@_2257	or rather, some consistant principle for these should
2021-06-06 02:09:52	@_2257	im not married to it being *this*, just as long as its something
2021-06-06 02:09:58	@Anton{Politoed}	otherwise, M1 is complete?
2021-06-06 02:10:13	@_2257	thats all i was going to say
2021-06-06 02:10:16	@Anton{Politoed}	M2 Favorite Mario Kart Game (Super Mario Kart, Mario Kart 64, Mario Kart: Super Circuit, Mario Kart: Double Dash!!, Mario Kart DS, Mario Kart Wii, Mario Kart 7, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Mario Kart Tour, Mario Kart Arcade GP, Mario Kart Arcade GP 2, Mario Kart Arcade GP DX, Mario Kart Arcade GP VR, Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit)
2021-06-06 02:10:19	@turb	skip
2021-06-06 02:10:20	Pitohui	So, wait, if we're handling remakes/ports that way are we still leaving Bowser's Inside Story unchaged
2021-06-06 02:10:24	Pitohui	*unchanged
2021-06-06 02:10:38	Pitohui	As opposed to adding + Bowser Jr.'s Journey
2021-06-06 02:10:52	@_2257	oh, that exists
2021-06-06 02:10:59	Lakituthequick	For those I think the remakes are generally considered to be bad enough I think
2021-06-06 02:10:59	@_2257	idk is there any reason to not add it
2021-06-06 02:11:14	Lakituthequick	Not sure about the consensus
2021-06-06 02:11:14	Pitohui	Not really, 22
2021-06-06 02:11:15	NinjaSquid	I guess that go to Super Mario 64 as well
2021-06-06 02:11:20	@turb	i'm fine either way
2021-06-06 02:11:23	NinjaSquid	unless the music was unchanged
2021-06-06 02:11:23	@_2257	i mean yeah the remake is one of the worst selling mario games ever i think
2021-06-06 02:11:26	Smasher	i do think there's a difference in notability there, since mk8d outsold the original and is the best selling switch game iirc whereas the bis remake kind of
2021-06-06 02:11:28	Smasher	tanked
2021-06-06 02:11:42	Smasher	that said i don't have any strong feelings towards it
2021-06-06 02:11:50	@turb	i honestly just think we should do whatever since i think people will be generally understanding of what is meant by the nominee names regardless
2021-06-06 02:11:54	@Anton{Politoed}	if we changed in favorite platofmer sm64/sm64ds to just ds the nominee would tank
2021-06-06 02:12:02	@Anton{Politoed}	platformer*
2021-06-06 02:12:11	@turb	the newer releases like the deluxe versions seem more set on completely subsuming the existing releases
2021-06-06 02:12:19	@turb	rather than sm64ds which is a sidegrade
2021-06-06 02:12:26	Smasher	i think sm64 and ds are too different to leave the original out
2021-06-06 02:12:35	Pitohui	Reasonable. Just wanted to bring that up since 22 brought up the MK8 change for consistency
2021-06-06 02:12:37	NinjaSquid	oh that makes sense
2021-06-06 02:12:41	@turb	and bowser jrs journey seems to literallyu only have uh the one mode as a real palpable difference
2021-06-06 02:12:45	Smasher	as opposed to something like mk8dx which is just like, the same but with more
2021-06-06 02:12:55	@Anton{Politoed}	gr888888
2021-06-06 02:12:58	@Anton{Politoed}	M2 Favorite Mario Kart Game (Super Mario Kart, Mario Kart 64, Mario Kart: Super Circuit, Mario Kart: Double Dash!!, Mario Kart DS, Mario Kart Wii, Mario Kart 7, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Mario Kart Tour, Mario Kart Arcade GP, Mario Kart Arcade GP 2, Mario Kart Arcade GP DX, Mario Kart Arcade GP VR, Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit)
2021-06-06 02:13:11	@turb	as before skip
2021-06-06 02:13:13	@turb	no new mk games
2021-06-06 02:13:13	NinjaSquid	skip
2021-06-06 02:13:18	Smasher	anyway there's nothing else to do with m2
2021-06-06 02:13:20	Pitohui	Yeah, nothing here to alter
2021-06-06 02:13:25	@Anton{Politoed}	M3 Favorite Mario Platformer (Super Mario 64/Super Mario 64 DS, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Super Mario Bros., Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario World, New Super Mario Bros., New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Super Mario Sunshine, Super Mario 3D Land, New Super Mario Bros. U/New Super Luigi U/New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe, 
2021-06-06 02:13:25	@Anton{Politoed}	Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury, Super Mario Odyssey, Super Mario Bros. 2 (USA), Super Mario Maker, Super Mario Maker 2)
2021-06-06 02:13:32	@turb	also skip probably
2021-06-06 02:13:49	tpggaming6	any way to shorten the nsmbu entry 
2021-06-06 02:14:00	@_2257	i think it could just be the 3rd part honestly
2021-06-06 02:14:09	@_2257	dx includes both of the wii u games by default right
2021-06-06 02:14:14	@turb	i think so
2021-06-06 02:14:16	NinjaSquid	yeah
2021-06-06 02:14:17	tpggaming6	ues
2021-06-06 02:14:19	tpggaming6	yes
2021-06-06 02:14:31	Pitohui	It does indeed
2021-06-06 02:15:02	@Anton{Politoed}	change made
2021-06-06 02:15:03	Smasher	that i think would be ok
2021-06-06 02:15:09	@Anton{Politoed}	no other awards this affects
2021-06-06 02:16:15	@Anton{Politoed}	M4 Favorite Mario Kart Course (Bowser's Castle (N64), Rainbow Road (3DS), Wario Colosseum, Waluigi Pinball, Airship Fortress, Mushroom Gorge, Coconut Mall, Maple Treeway, Electrodrome, N64 Rainbow Road (Wii U), Mount Wario, Animal Crossing, Baby Park, Big Blue, Koopa Cape, Neo Bowser City, Grumble Volcano, Rainbow Road (Wii))
2021-06-06 02:16:28	@_2257	 "n64 rainbow road (wii u)" sounds very weird but there might not be a better thing to call it
2021-06-06 02:16:52	@Anton{Politoed}	that is unfortunately the most accurate way
2021-06-06 02:17:03	tpggaming6	you could replace the abbreviations with the game titles 
2021-06-06 02:17:06	tpggaming6	so like
2021-06-06 02:17:12	tpggaming6	bowsers castle (MK64)
2021-06-06 02:17:18	tpggaming6	rainbow road (MK7)
2021-06-06 02:17:30	tpggaming6	n64 rainbow road (MK8)
2021-06-06 02:17:30	tpggaming6	etc
2021-06-06 02:18:03	@Anton{Politoed}	sure
2021-06-06 02:18:22	Pitohui	Seems like a reasonable change. I'm seeing nothing else here, either.
2021-06-06 02:18:44	Lakituthequick	ye
2021-06-06 02:19:21	@Anton{Politoed}	change mirrored in F8
2021-06-06 02:19:43	@Anton{Politoed}	M5 Favorite DK Music Track (Aquatic Ambience (Donkey Kong Country), Stickerbrush Symphony (Donkey Kong Country 2), DK Island Swing (Donkey Kong Country), Fear Factory (Donkey Kong Country), Mining Melancholy (Donkey Kong Country 2), Gang-Plank Galleon (Donkey Kong Country), Homecoming Hijinxs (Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze),
2021-06-06 02:19:52	@Anton{Politoed}	Jammin' Jam (Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze), Battle for Storm Hill (Donkey Kong Jungle Beat), Disco Train (Donkey Kong Country 2), Jungle Japes (Donkey Kong 64), Nuts and Bolts (Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble! (SNES)), Punch Bowl/Bashmaster Battle (Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze), DK Rap (Donkey Kong 64),
2021-06-06 02:19:53	@Anton{Politoed}	 Eddie, Let Me Go Back To My Home (Donkey Kong Country cartoon), I'm Leo Luster (Donkey Kong Country cartoon), Frantic Factory (Donkey Kong 64), Forest Interlude (Donkey Kong Country 2))
2021-06-06 02:19:56	Lakituthequick	4× Donkey Kong Country 2 => Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest
2021-06-06 02:19:56	Lakituthequick	Removed from M10 but not added here: Pirate's Scorn (Donkey Kong Country cartoon)
2021-06-06 02:19:58	@_2257	ok i dont remember if we talked about this yet 
2021-06-06 02:20:11	@_2257	but i meant to when i nominated it
2021-06-06 02:20:24	@_2257	"mining melancholy" is not an official name
2021-06-06 02:20:25	tpggaming6	"(Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble! (SNES))"
2021-06-06 02:20:39	@_2257	but its overwhelmingly better known than the official name
2021-06-06 02:20:48	tpggaming6	do we need the subtitle and the system
2021-06-06 02:20:48	@_2257	whcih is uh, "life in the mines", i think?
2021-06-06 02:21:19	@_2257	there's a long and uninteresting story behind that but i just want to ask, is it better to use the official name nobody knows or the fake name some people do know
2021-06-06 02:21:22	NinjaSquid	isn't that the DKC1 music though
2021-06-06 02:21:37	@turb	probably the fake name because i thought life in the mines was dkc1
2021-06-06 02:21:50	@turb	i thought it would be kannons klaim if it had an official name
2021-06-06 02:21:57	@_2257	maybe it is
2021-06-06 02:21:59	@turb	also rose wanted to add uhh forest interlude o something i think
2021-06-06 02:22:04	@turb	but i forgot the details beyond that
2021-06-06 02:22:07	@Anton{Politoed}	award is at 18, no room for pirate's scorn
2021-06-06 02:22:13	@turb	whatever music is in the haunted forest levels in dkc3
2021-06-06 02:22:16	@_2257	i said "i think" because i didnt know the official name either
2021-06-06 02:22:18	@turb	dkc2* not 3
2021-06-06 02:22:18	@_2257	nobody does
2021-06-06 02:22:19	Pitohui	Forest Interlude appears to be on there
2021-06-06 02:22:23	@turb	oh really
2021-06-06 02:22:25	@turb	ok that sgood
2021-06-06 02:22:58	tpggaming6	in case it got scrolled up and missed
2021-06-06 02:23:02	tpggaming6	"(Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble! (SNES))" 
2021-06-06 02:23:12	@_2257	yes tog
2021-06-06 02:23:13	@_2257	tpg
2021-06-06 02:23:22	@_2257	the gba port had an all new soundtrack
2021-06-06 02:23:27	Pitohui	Didn't the GBA versions have- yeah
2021-06-06 02:23:34	tpggaming6	i think people can recognise the game from just the number, without the subtitle 
2021-06-06 02:23:39	tpggaming6	system i can understand keeping 
2021-06-06 02:23:40	@Anton{Politoed}	I would be up for having the official name next to the unofficial name
2021-06-06 02:23:41	@_2257	with all the same track titles, for different music
2021-06-06 02:23:49	@Anton{Politoed}	because if I had to choose I would defer to official
2021-06-06 02:24:15	@turb	we should do it like toxic waterfall/lily pad ride
2021-06-06 02:24:19	tpggaming6	but removing the Dixie Kong's Double Trouble! and Diddy Kong's Quest might improve readability 
2021-06-06 02:24:27	@turb	just as long as people find things readable
2021-06-06 02:24:34	@turb	we can shorten it to dkc3 etc
2021-06-06 02:25:02	NinjaSquid	i think the GBA versions doesn't have these subtitles
2021-06-06 02:25:03	@Anton{Politoed}	if we shorten one we shorten them all
2021-06-06 02:25:13	tpggaming6	thats what im saying
2021-06-06 02:25:19	@Anton{Politoed}	and then do the same in M6 and M7
2021-06-06 02:25:57	@_2257	ok the wiki does say it's kannon's klaim
2021-06-06 02:26:01	@_2257	its not... cited though
2021-06-06 02:26:21	@_2257	supposedly the gba version has a sound test with the official titles but i don thave that handy
2021-06-06 02:26:23	tpggaming6	i dont think the wario or yoshi games have unnecessary subtitles in any of their games 
2021-06-06 02:26:38	@Anton{Politoed}	M5, 6, and 7 are kind of a package
2021-06-06 02:27:31	tpggaming6	but i dont think there's anything much to shorten beyond "super mario world 2: yoshis island" to just "yoshis island" 
2021-06-06 02:28:03	@Anton{Politoed}	the options are to shorten everything in M5, M6, and M7, or keep it as is
2021-06-06 02:28:27	Lakituthequick	i don't see much reason to shorten things here myself
2021-06-06 02:28:29	@Anton{Politoed}	there should be consistency between those ones
2021-06-06 02:28:41	tpggaming6	what would you shorten the m7 game titles to
2021-06-06 02:28:49	tpggaming6	m6*, sorry
2021-06-06 02:28:53	@Anton{Politoed}	also all of these will be on individual lines in the polls, not paragraph form like here
2021-06-06 02:28:53	Pitohui	I'm with LTQ. I don't see much need to shorten these here.
2021-06-06 02:29:27	@Anton{Politoed}	any shortening would likely be to abbreviations used in other awards, like WL4, WW:SM, etc.
2021-06-06 02:29:37	@Anton{Politoed}	SMW2:YI
2021-06-06 02:29:47	tpggaming6	oh thats too short 
2021-06-06 02:29:50	tpggaming6	shut it down
2021-06-06 02:29:52	tpggaming6	keep it long
2021-06-06 02:30:01	tpggaming6	no complaints Sir
2021-06-06 02:30:04	Lakituthequick	too short?
2021-06-06 02:30:09	Lakituthequick	we do this in plenty awards
2021-06-06 02:30:15	@_2257	ok i checked
2021-06-06 02:30:22	@_2257	it is in fact "kannon's klaim"
2021-06-06 02:30:30	@Anton{Politoed}	so what's changing
2021-06-06 02:30:52	@Anton{Politoed}	mining melancholy is out, Kannon's Klaim/Life in the Mines is in?
2021-06-06 02:31:09	@_2257	no, life in the mines was just my misremembering 
2021-06-06 02:31:12	@_2257	don't put that on
2021-06-06 02:31:14	@Anton{Politoed}	oh ok
2021-06-06 02:31:24	@_2257	kannon's klaim is the real title, mining melancholy is the fake title
2021-06-06 02:31:37	@Anton{Politoed}	so Kannon's Klaim/Mining Melancholy
2021-06-06 02:31:52	@_2257	yeah'
2021-06-06 02:32:02	@Anton{Politoed}	complete
2021-06-06 02:32:05	@Anton{Politoed}	anything else for M5?
2021-06-06 02:32:37	Lakituthequick	just to confirm spmething
2021-06-06 02:32:49	Pitohui	Nuts and Bolts (Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble! (SNES) - we have SNES here but for none of the others
2021-06-06 02:32:53	Lakituthequick	for F3 toxic waterfall is the official name ythen?
2021-06-06 02:33:11	tpggaming6	thats cause the gba soundtrack for dck3 is different pitohui
2021-06-06 02:33:20	Pitohui	Do they also need (SNES) appended, 22? Did they also chan-
2021-06-06 02:33:22	Pitohui	Oh, gotcha
2021-06-06 02:33:29	tpggaming6	so you gotta define the song by the system as well as the game 
2021-06-06 02:33:30	Pitohui	It was *just* DKC3 they did it for, yeah?
2021-06-06 02:33:31	NinjaSquid	yeah, and it's the only one DKC3 in there lol
2021-06-06 02:33:45	@_2257	yes, for dkc3 they changed every single track for the gba version to something totally different
2021-06-06 02:33:51	Pitohui	Okay, cool, cool
2021-06-06 02:33:54	Pitohui	That's a non-issue then
2021-06-06 02:34:16	Pitohui	For some reason I thought they changed it on all of the remakes
2021-06-06 02:34:37	@Anton{Politoed}	lily pad ride is official, so I will switch those places
2021-06-06 02:34:46	@_2257	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rd0QpuvKTI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcuXrF3nT9M
2021-06-06 02:35:17	@_2257	no, the other gba remakes of dkc games had the same soundtrack, just horribly mangled by the gba's sound capability
2021-06-06 02:35:22	@Anton{Politoed}	M6 Favorite Wario Music Track (The Toxic Landfill (Wario Land 4), Hurry Up!! (Wario Land 4), Carpaccio Battle (Wario: Master of Disguise), Allergia Gardens (Wario: Master of Disguise), Crescent Moon Village (Wario Land 4), Greenhorn Ruins (Wario World), Greenhorn Forest (Wario World), Stonecarving City (Wario Land: Shake It!), 
2021-06-06 02:35:23	@Anton{Politoed}	 Neon City (Wario Land: Shake It!), Count Cannoli Battle (Wario: Master of Disguise), Domino Row (Wario Land 4), Fiery Cavern (Wario Land 4), Tomorrow Hill (WarioWare: Smooth Moves), Body Rock (WarioWare: D.I.Y.), Ashley's Theme (WarioWare: Touched!), Mona Pizza's Song (WarioWare: Twisted!), Title Song (Wario Land 4), Karaoke (Medamayaki) (Wario Land 4))
2021-06-06 02:35:48	Lakituthequick	Title Song (Wario Land 4) => Title song/Title/Title track (?)
2021-06-06 02:35:48	Lakituthequick	Also a bit of trivia worth mentioning: "Part of the vocals used in the game's title track were taken from the first track of Zero-G's Vocal XTC audio sample compilation. The specific vocal lines in question are "Your time is over, I've had enough! Here I come! Look out, here I come!", sung by British session singer Helen Binding.[9][10]"
2021-06-06 02:36:24	@_2257	although im starting to think, based on how many peopel have asked me questions about this, that the general public doesn't understand the dkc3 situation well enough to know what the annotation means anyway lol
2021-06-06 02:36:24	Lakituthequick	that last bit is worth noting because it might quality as taking stock lyrics and slapping it on
2021-06-06 02:36:28	@Anton{Politoed}	change made
2021-06-06 02:37:04	Pitohui	Everything else here looks good as far as I can tell
2021-06-06 02:37:05	Lakituthequick	*qualify
2021-06-06 02:37:13	@_2257	yeah it is technically a lyrical song i guess
2021-06-06 02:37:26	@_2257	i already cant remember, did we decide those had to go to vocal song instead
2021-06-06 02:37:51	Lakituthequick	i'm really just noting it in case we want to go "well they just grapped some vocals and called it a day, lets remove it"
2021-06-06 02:37:57	Lakituthequick	no strong opinions myself
2021-06-06 02:38:12	@_2257	well ashley's theme etc appear to be on this so
2021-06-06 02:38:16	@_2257	its probably fine
2021-06-06 02:38:33	Lakituthequick	ashley's theme is an original song
2021-06-06 02:38:39	Pitohui	The title theme being on here seems fine to me
2021-06-06 02:38:55	@Anton{Politoed}	M7 Favorite Yoshi Music Track (Athletic Theme (Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island), Final Boss (Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island), Castle/Fortress (Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island), Underground (Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island), Ending (Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island), Flower Garden (Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island), 
2021-06-06 02:38:55	@_2257	im not understanding how that's relevant
2021-06-06 02:39:04	@Anton{Politoed}	Map (Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island), Yo-Yo-Yoshi (Yoshi's Story), Fortress Boss (Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island), Lava Scarves and Red-Hot Blarggs (Yoshi's Woolly World),  Bandit Valley (Yoshi's New Island), Kamek's Last-Ditch Flyby (Yoshi's Woolly World), Knitty-Knotty Windmill Hill (Yoshi's Woolly World), Love is in the Air (Yoshi's Story), 
2021-06-06 02:39:04	@Anton{Politoed}	Space (Yoshi's Crafted World), The Riddle (Yoshi's Story), Special Area (Yoshi's Crafted World), Vs. Mega Baby Bowser (Yoshi's Woolly World))
2021-06-06 02:39:05	@_2257	the title theme is also an original song, it just has some stock lyrics
2021-06-06 02:39:26	Lakituthequick	that's the thing i'm mentioning yeah
2021-06-06 02:39:38	-->	Perch (Mibbit@12.185.pp.tzm) has joined #mwikiawards
2021-06-06 02:39:53	Perch	hello
2021-06-06 02:40:02	Lakituthequick	anyhow m7
2021-06-06 02:40:05	Lakituthequick	I have no notes
2021-06-06 02:40:09	@turb	m7 seems fine
2021-06-06 02:40:10	@Anton{Politoed}	i'm gay
2021-06-06 02:40:13	Pitohui	I'm not seeing anything here
2021-06-06 02:40:17	NinjaSquid	hello perch!
2021-06-06 02:40:25	@Anton{Politoed}	M8 Favorite Art Style (Retro style sprites, Yoshi's Island style, Donkey Kong Country style, Main series 3D style, Paper Mario style, Mario & Luigi style, Wario Land: Shake It! style, Super Mario RPG style, Super Mario Strikers style, WarioWare style, 2D promotional artwork style, Super Mario-Kun style, Handcrafted Yoshi style, 
2021-06-06 02:40:25	@Anton{Politoed}	 Kinopio-kun monthly calendar wallpaper styles)
2021-06-06 02:40:35	tpggaming6	ah finally 
2021-06-06 02:40:39	NinjaSquid	wasn't paper mario to be split?
2021-06-06 02:40:42	tpggaming6	my purpose, my reason, my summoning 
2021-06-06 02:40:43	Pitohui	I believe TPG wanted to split Paper Mario into pre-SS and post-SS
2021-06-06 02:40:51	tpggaming6	!!split paper mario into classic and modern!!
2021-06-06 02:40:57	Lakituthequick	Super Mario-Kun => Super Mario-kun
2021-06-06 02:40:57	Lakituthequick	https://www.mariowiki.com/Super_Mario-Kun?action=history
2021-06-06 02:40:59	Pitohui	On account of the artstyle change with the white outlines and such
2021-06-06 02:41:21	Pitohui	Er, actually pre-CS and post-CS, I guess
2021-06-06 02:41:33	@Anton{Politoed}	is there anything more than white outlines as the change
2021-06-06 02:41:40	NinjaSquid	hmm, i'd say SS should go in modern as well
2021-06-06 02:41:43	tpggaming6	i'll grab the reasons i posted a while back
2021-06-06 02:41:56	@_2257	theres a lot different but honestly to me it just seems like the one style evolved over time
2021-06-06 02:42:00	@Anton{Politoed}	in terms of paleontology and anthropology, I'm a lumper not a splitter
2021-06-06 02:42:03	@_2257	not that there was a clear split at any point
2021-06-06 02:42:11	tpggaming6	 paper jam, sticker star, colour splash and origami king are more about the actual papercraft aesthetic whereas 64, ttyd, and super paper mario are more about abstract setpieces and texturework
2021-06-06 02:42:23	tpggaming6	the aesthetic is distinctly different between the first three games (PM, TTYD, SPM) and the last few games (SS, CS, OK and Paper Jam), with SS being a sort of bridge between the two
2021-06-06 02:43:15	tpggaming6	artyle differences between, for example, CS and TTYD are commonly cited when comparing the two games because like 
2021-06-06 02:43:34	@Anton{Politoed}	do you have visual support because I remain a lumper
2021-06-06 02:43:55	tpggaming6	Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/3e46ba52e69b25d2ead95936a4b3bf81/image.png
2021-06-06 02:43:58	@Anton{Politoed}	based on a cursory google search of each game's name in google images
2021-06-06 02:43:59	tpggaming6	"classic"
2021-06-06 02:44:29	tpggaming6	Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/074174669cc667e61ad3a6ff1dfb3513/image.png
2021-06-06 02:44:32	tpggaming6	"modern"
2021-06-06 02:44:53	Lakituthequick	the paper mario series did start to actually be paper staring from ss
2021-06-06 02:45:04	@Anton{Politoed}	I can see that now, yeah
2021-06-06 02:45:16	@Anton{Politoed}	next question is, is the distinction known enough in the fandom to matter
2021-06-06 02:45:18	Lakituthequick	the ones before were just kinda "it's paper, trust us"
2021-06-06 02:45:42	@_2257	well
2021-06-06 02:45:43	tpggaming6	arlo, famous Awards Influencer, has a couple monologues about the difference in art style and why it means new games bad
2021-06-06 02:45:50	@_2257	im still on the side of don't split it, but 
2021-06-06 02:45:56	@_2257	its actually a huge issue with fans
2021-06-06 02:45:58	Lakituthequick	arlo is wrong
2021-06-06 02:46:03	Lakituthequick	the new games are better
2021-06-06 02:46:06	tpggaming6	something something "the classic games were MARIO STORY, the new games are PAPER MARIO" 
2021-06-06 02:46:11	@Anton{Politoed}	arlo can get fucked
2021-06-06 02:46:16	Pitohui	People get really upset about the new games emphasizing paper so much
2021-06-06 02:46:18	@_2257	arlo is the guy who hates hammer bros so fuck him
2021-06-06 02:46:36	@Anton{Politoed}	so the effect of this split may result in classic getting an arlo boost
2021-06-06 02:46:42	Lakituthequick	paper mario emphasasing paper? no way!
2021-06-06 02:46:59	Pitohui	"the new games are better" The more time I spend thinking about TOK the more I agree with you, LTQ
2021-06-06 02:47:41	tpggaming6	if the results are bad we can always merge them next year 
2021-06-06 02:47:44	tpggaming6	see what happens 
2021-06-06 02:48:01	Smasher	ugh sorry
2021-06-06 02:48:02	@turb	i distrust youtube influencers
2021-06-06 02:48:13	@turb	personally im really ambivalent on the split though
2021-06-06 02:48:23	@turb	i think the art styles themselves are kind of distinct enough but at the same time like
2021-06-06 02:48:23	Perch	same as tur
2021-06-06 02:48:28	@_2257	honestly i still think the tok graphics are just a natural evolution of the pm1 graphics 
2021-06-06 02:48:28	@Anton{Politoed}	the split makes sense and it matters to voters, but
2021-06-06 02:48:30	@turb	i guess to my brain i just see it as outlines and mostly background changes
2021-06-06 02:48:31	Perch	it's straddling the order between like
2021-06-06 02:48:35	@Anton{Politoed}	not voters I care should be heard
2021-06-06 02:48:37	@Anton{Politoed}	so this is tough
2021-06-06 02:48:45	@turb	natural evolution of pm1 graphics is a good description
2021-06-06 02:48:45	Pitohui	I've gone back and forth but I'm leaning towards 22 saying its just an evolving artstyle
2021-06-06 02:48:46	Perch	axctual Style Difference and simple six-game evolution
2021-06-06 02:49:05	Smasher	i havent been able to get on here
2021-06-06 02:49:10	@_2257	the biggest difference is just the characters being redesigned on the template of nsmb, and that applies to all mario games after like 2008
2021-06-06 02:49:51	@Anton{Politoed}	putting aside the youtube influence
2021-06-06 02:49:51	Smasher	 and then chatzilla just fucking froze on me
2021-06-06 02:50:03	NinjaSquid	i think i am leaning towards keeping them merge right now
2021-06-06 02:50:07	@Anton{Politoed}	I do feel I'm erring on the side of it being an evolving interpretation of a paper aesthetic
2021-06-06 02:50:26	Shoey	I don't see the need for splitting 
2021-06-06 02:50:27	@Anton{Politoed}	let's consult write-ins
2021-06-06 02:50:33	Perch	i think a good example is that like
2021-06-06 02:50:36	Perch	1 sec
2021-06-06 02:50:39	NinjaSquid	evolving artstyle does makes sense
2021-06-06 02:50:47	@Anton{Politoed}	there's no worthwhile write-ins
2021-06-06 02:51:01	Lakituthequick	i find that the individucally animated parts of the second and third games are and odd step in this evolution
2021-06-06 02:51:02	@_2257	i actually think the evolution of the paper mario artstyle is really interesting because if you look at the very oldest known development materials for pm1, it's not even paper at all
2021-06-06 02:51:04	Smasher	i personally agree that  it just feels like an evolving art style
2021-06-06 02:51:08	Lakituthequick	what was up with those
2021-06-06 02:51:12	@_2257	theyre just billobards with super mario world sprites on them
2021-06-06 02:51:14	@Anton{Politoed}	should an outpouring of fans start writing in "paper mario but not when it's actually paper" then I'll throw support behind the split
2021-06-06 02:51:16	NinjaSquid	take Mario & Luigi RPGs for example, with pre-3DS, post 3DS artstyle
2021-06-06 02:51:24	Perch	http://images.nintendolife.com/700c50bea7445/bowser-cropped.original.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/EnjBv1hdtoo/maxresdefault.jpg https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.qVXVX8_XS5q2C29Kz9BDZQHaFj?pid=ImgDet&rs=1
2021-06-06 02:51:33	Perch	bowser looks kinda different in 64, Sunshine, and Galaxy
2021-06-06 02:51:38	@_2257	you can really see how the whole existence of pm:tok is a direct result of n64 hardware limitations
2021-06-06 02:51:39	Perch	but i wouldn't call that grounds to split 3d game style
2021-06-06 02:51:40	@_2257	its pretty funny
2021-06-06 02:51:41	@turb	i'll agree with anton on this
2021-06-06 02:51:54	Perch	it's just an evolution based on what the consoles were capable of
2021-06-06 02:52:05	Smasher	im gonna vote to keep them together
2021-06-06 02:52:09	tpggaming6	i think bowsers model in sm64 is just because nintendo weren't experienced in making models back then
2021-06-06 02:52:15	Smasher	now to catch up on what i missed
2021-06-06 02:52:17	Lakituthequick	i see the merit of distinction but am fairly neutral on spitting or not
2021-06-06 02:52:22	tpggaming6	if you look at promotional artwork for n64 bowser he looks pretty much the same as modern bowser
2021-06-06 02:52:37	NinjaSquid	I think maybe it's more of an improvement from a technological point of view. I think the producer of CS 
2021-06-06 02:52:37	NinjaSquid	had mentioned it regarding the Wii U techs
2021-06-06 02:52:37	@Anton{Politoed}	yeah i will say too that I do see the merit
2021-06-06 02:52:41	@Anton{Politoed}	just not there for it yet
2021-06-06 02:52:52	@Anton{Politoed}	anything else for M8?
2021-06-06 02:53:05	@_2257	also if by 'individually animated parts' you mean the fact that the characters were composd of multiple layered textures, i think it basically amounts to a space-saving measure 
2021-06-06 02:53:12	Pitohui	Not from me
2021-06-06 02:53:13	@Anton{Politoed}	also this is like the 2nd big tpg idea we've knocked down in a row so I'll emphasize that this is a natural process of awards and I encourage it
2021-06-06 02:53:16	@Anton{Politoed}	checks and balances
2021-06-06 02:53:25	@_2257	although starting in color splash they actually did visibly change the animations to be more stop-motion
2021-06-06 02:53:29	tpggaming6	speaking of big tpg ideas 
2021-06-06 02:53:34	Perch	what was the first
2021-06-06 02:53:35	tpggaming6	that was the last one 
2021-06-06 02:54:11	NinjaSquid	yes she did
2021-06-06 02:54:13	@Anton{Politoed}	M9 Favorite Add-on Content (The Legend of Zelda × Mario Kart 8, Animal Crossing × Mario Kart 8, Mercedes-Benz × Mario Kart 8, New Super Luigi U, Peach's Castle stage (SSB4), Super Mario Maker stage (SSB4), Super Mario Mash-Up Pack (Minecraft), Luigi's Balloon World (SMO), Yoshi's Island Zone (Sonic Lost World), e-Reader Levels (SMA4:SMB3), 
2021-06-06 02:54:13	@Anton{Politoed}	Season Pass (M+RKB), Special Episode (CT:TT), Nintendo Labo VR (SMO), Piranha Plant (SSBU), Multiplayer Pack (LM3), A Legendary Update (version 2.0) (SMM2), World Maker Update (version 3.0) (SMM2), 1.8.0 Free Update (Animal Crossing: New Horizons))
2021-06-06 02:54:22	NinjaSquid	https://www.usgamer.net/articles/risa-tabata-on-paper-mario-color-splash
2021-06-06 02:54:26	tpggaming6	i just wanted to bring up the m8 thing for this meeting, other than that im 'big tpg tired' and will go to bed 
2021-06-06 02:54:35	tpggaming6	you guys have fun 
2021-06-06 02:54:36	Lakituthequick	i was like "i have notes" but those were previously noted so nothing here
2021-06-06 02:54:42	@turb	good luck tpg
2021-06-06 02:54:56	Pitohui	Have a nice night, TPG
2021-06-06 02:55:03	Smasher	have fun sleeping
2021-06-06 02:55:06	tpggaming6	those apostrophes look sarcastic 
2021-06-06 02:55:10	Smasher	i have nothing for this
2021-06-06 02:55:12	NinjaSquid	good night TPG
2021-06-06 02:55:16	@_2257	actually
2021-06-06 02:55:17	tpggaming6	sorry i didnt mean for it to come out like that 
2021-06-06 02:55:20	tpggaming6	more evidence of tired
2021-06-06 02:55:22	tpggaming6	bye
2021-06-06 02:55:22	tpggaming6	zzz
2021-06-06 02:55:28	NinjaSquid	I've got nothing for M9
2021-06-06 02:55:31	Pitohui	Yeah, I have nothing here
2021-06-06 02:55:31	@_2257	have we ever considered changing e-reader levels to just e-reader content
2021-06-06 02:55:36	@_2257	there was more than just levels
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2021-06-06 02:55:48	Pitohui	Oh, that'd make sense, 22
2021-06-06 02:55:58	Smasher	22 has a good point actually
2021-06-06 02:56:20	@Anton{Politoed}	sure
2021-06-06 02:56:22	@_2257	(the other content is items, switches and play demos btw)
2021-06-06 02:56:26	Smasher	the levels are the things most people care about but theres no harm in including everything
2021-06-06 02:56:29	Perch	i didn't think about it but 
2021-06-06 02:56:31	Perch	that's a good point
2021-06-06 02:56:41	Lakituthequick	i wonder why i never complaine about the capital L here
2021-06-06 02:56:42	Lakituthequick	huh
2021-06-06 02:56:58	Lakituthequick	oh well
2021-06-06 02:57:02	Lakituthequick	its gone no
2021-06-06 02:57:02	Lakituthequick	w
2021-06-06 02:57:15	@Anton{Politoed}	M10 Favorite Mario Lyrical Song (Break Free (Lead the Way) (Super Mario Odyssey), Do the Mario (The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!), Jump Up, Super Star! (Super Mario Odyssey), The Mario Drawing Song (Flipnote Studio), Phantom of the Bwahpera (Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle), Intro (Super Mario World cartoon), Ignorance is Bliss (White Knuckle Scorin'), 
2021-06-06 02:57:16	@Anton{Politoed}	Galantis ft. Charli XCX - WE ARE BORN TO PLAY (Super Nintendo World Japan promo), Plumber Rap (The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!))
2021-06-06 02:57:39	Lakituthequick	Plumber Rap => The Mario Rap
2021-06-06 02:57:41	@_2257	dont have anything
2021-06-06 02:58:36	@Anton{Politoed}	M11 Favorite Major Character (Mario, Luigi, Princess Peach, Yoshi, Wario, Donkey Kong, Bowser, Bowser Jr., Toad)
2021-06-06 02:58:41	Lakituthequick	--
2021-06-06 02:58:48	@turb	--?
2021-06-06 02:58:49	@Anton{Politoed}	M12 Favorite Supporting Character (Princess Daisy, Waluigi, Toadsworth, Diddy Kong, Professor E. Gadd, Toadette, Captain Toad, Birdo, Kamek, Poochy, Pauline, Cappy, King Boo, Nabbit, Rosalina)
2021-06-06 02:58:55	@turb	or is that just skip
2021-06-06 02:58:59	Lakituthequick	-- as in i have nothing
2021-06-06 02:58:59	@turb	i would probably sya skip this one too
2021-06-06 02:59:01	@turb	oh ok
2021-06-06 02:59:02	Pitohui	No changers here
2021-06-06 02:59:04	Lakituthequick	--
2021-06-06 02:59:05	NinjaSquid	skip
2021-06-06 02:59:06	Pitohui	*changes
2021-06-06 02:59:08	@Anton{Politoed}	M13 Favorite Level Theme (Grassland, Desert, Snow/Ice, Mountain, Underground, Beach, Sky, Jungle, Space/Moon, Fire/Lava, Ghost House, Castle, Airship, Factory/Industrial, Carnival, City/Town, Food/Sweets, Feudal Japan)
2021-06-06 02:59:21	Lakituthequick	question here
2021-06-06 02:59:33	Smasher	i had nothing to say for the last few awards
2021-06-06 02:59:44	Lakituthequick	idk english so, is it normal to capitalise both bits when slashes are involved
2021-06-06 02:59:55	Perch	yes
2021-06-06 02:59:55	@_2257	not for sentence case
2021-06-06 02:59:56	Lakituthequick	so "Snow/Ice" vs "Snow/ice"
2021-06-06 03:00:04	Perch	at least in my experience as par tof a list
2021-06-06 03:00:31	Smasher	it looks better capitalized in a list for me
2021-06-06 03:00:40	NinjaSquid	same as Smasher
2021-06-06 03:00:51	Pitohui	Per Smasher
2021-06-06 03:01:08	Lakituthequick	alright
2021-06-06 03:01:25	Lakituthequick	just saying as y'all know i despise title case's entire existence
2021-06-06 03:01:48	@Anton{Politoed}	M14 Favorite Species (Goombas, Koopa Troopas, Boos, Shy Guys, Chain Chomps, Bob-ombs, Dry Bones, Hammer Bros., Wigglers, Yoshis, Toads, Lumas, Magikoopas, Humans, Piranha Plants, Kongs, Lakitus, Toadies)
2021-06-06 03:01:56	Lakituthequick	--
2021-06-06 03:02:02	NinjaSquid	skip
2021-06-06 03:02:06	Pitohui	No change
2021-06-06 03:02:09	@Anton{Politoed}	M15 Favorite Mario Instrumental Track (Overworld Theme (Super Mario Bros.), Main Theme (Bob-omb Battlefield) (Super Mario 64), Steam Gardens (Super Mario Odyssey), Waluigi Pinball/Wario Stadium (Mario Kart DS), Delfino Plaza (Super Mario Sunshine), Gusty Garden Galaxy (Super Mario Galaxy), The Grand Finale (Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story), 
2021-06-06 03:02:13	@Anton{Politoed}	Buoy Base Galaxy (Super Mario Galaxy), Rainbow Road (Mario Kart 64), Rawk Hawk Battle (Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door), Staff Roll (Super Mario 64), Battle/Come on! (Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga), Comet Observatory (Super Mario Galaxy), Dire, Dire Docks (Super Mario 64), The Ultimate Show (Super Paper Mario), Rainbow Road (Mario Kart 7), 
2021-06-06 03:02:17	Smasher	nothing to say (m14)
2021-06-06 03:02:19	@Anton{Politoed}	Disco Devil (Hole Punch) (Paper Mario: The Origami King), Thrills at Night (Paper Mario: The Origami King))
2021-06-06 03:02:30	Lakituthequick	man tok music is good
2021-06-06 03:02:35	Lakituthequick	everyone listen to it
2021-06-06 03:02:37	Lakituthequick	no other notes
2021-06-06 03:02:42	Pitohui	Vote Origami King in M15
2021-06-06 03:02:47	@Anton{Politoed}	M16 Favorite Item (Tanooki Suit/Statue Leaf, Super Leaf, Super Star, Fire Flower, Mega Mushroom, Metal Cap, Wing Cap, Propeller Mushroom, Penguin Suit, Cloud Flower, Cape Feather, Gold Flower, Super Bell, Double Cherry, Mystery Mushroom, Hammer Suit, Master Sword (SMM2), Giga Bell)
2021-06-06 03:02:52	@_2257	wait, why do i know you despise title case?
2021-06-06 03:03:11	Pitohui	M16 looks good to me
2021-06-06 03:03:14	Lakituthequick	i rant about it every so often
2021-06-06 03:03:17	Lakituthequick	or mention it at least
2021-06-06 03:03:26	NinjaSquid	nothing here
2021-06-06 03:03:29	@Anton{Politoed}	M17 Favorite Mario RPG (Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars, Paper Mario, Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time, Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, Super Paper Mario, Paper Mario: Sticker Star, Mario & Luigi: Dream Team, Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Bros. Edition, 
2021-06-06 03:03:29	@Anton{Politoed}	 Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam, Paper Mario: Color Splash, Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle, Paper Mario: The Origami King)
2021-06-06 03:03:40	Smasher	nothing catches my eye
2021-06-06 03:03:41	NinjaSquid	skip
2021-06-06 03:03:49	@turb	skip
2021-06-06 03:03:50	Pitohui	This one looks good
2021-06-06 03:03:51	Lakituthequick	-
2021-06-06 03:03:55	@Anton{Politoed}	M18 Favorite Mario Party Game (Mario Party, Mario Party 2, Mario Party 3, Mario Party 4, Mario Party 5, Mario Party 6, Mario Party Advance, Mario Party 7, Mario Party DS, Mario Party 8, Mario Party 9, Mario Party: Island Tour, Mario Party 10, Mario Party: Star Rush, Mario Party: The Top 100, Super Mario Party)
2021-06-06 03:04:00	@turb	also skip
2021-06-06 03:04:03	NinjaSquid	nothing
2021-06-06 03:04:06	Smasher	:words:
2021-06-06 03:04:08	@Anton{Politoed}	M19 Favorite Villain (Bowser, Kamek, King K. Rool, Dimentio, Bowser Jr., King Boo, Count Bleck, Cackletta, Fawful, Wart, Sir Grodus, Shadow Queen, Lord Crump, Captain Syrup, Shroobs, Koopa Bros., Koopalings, King Olly)
2021-06-06 03:04:22	NinjaSquid	good
2021-06-06 03:04:24	Lakituthequick	cool
2021-06-06 03:04:29	@Anton{Politoed}	M20 Favorite Sports Game (Mario Tennis (N64), Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour, Mario Power Tennis, Mario Superstar Baseball, Mario Strikers Charged, Mario Hoops 3-on-3, Mario Sports Mix, Super Mario Strikers, Mario Super Sluggers, Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games, Mario Tennis Open, Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games, Mario Golf: World Tour, 
2021-06-06 03:04:29	@Anton{Politoed}	Mario Sports Superstars, Mario Tennis Aces, Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games Tokyo 2020)
2021-06-06 03:04:30	Pitohui	Dimentio how have you stayed on here for so long
2021-06-06 03:04:34	Pitohui	(M19 is good)
2021-06-06 03:04:42	Lakituthequick	sportsball
2021-06-06 03:04:46	Lakituthequick	(good)
2021-06-06 03:04:51	NinjaSquid	skip
2021-06-06 03:05:00	@Anton{Politoed}	dimentio landed 6th with 148 votes last year
2021-06-06 03:05:05	@Anton{Politoed}	M21 Favorite Puzzle Game (Dr. Mario (series), Tetris Attack, Yoshi's Cookie, Wario's Woods, Mario's Picross, Yoshi, Donkey Kong (Game Boy)/Mario vs. Donkey Kong (GBA), Mario vs. Donkey Kong (2 and onwards), DK: King of Swing/DK: Jungle Climber, Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker, Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Bros. Edition)
2021-06-06 03:05:10	Perch	everyone's favorite edgelord
2021-06-06 03:05:21	@_2257	i also can't fathom dimentio's popularity 
2021-06-06 03:05:26	NinjaSquid	good
2021-06-06 03:05:37	Lakituthequick	dimentio is jesterface right
2021-06-06 03:05:41	NinjaSquid	yeah, I dunno why Dimention is that popular
2021-06-06 03:05:41	@Anton{Politoed}	M22 Favorite Mario Party Board (Castaway Bay (MP6), Faire Square (MP6), Kamek's Library (MPDS), Koopa's Tycoon Town (MP8), Magma Mine (MP9), Neon Heights (MP7), Pagoda Peak (MP7), Peach's Birthday Cake (MP), Waluigi's Island (MP3), Western Land (MP2), Shy Guy's Jungle Jam (MP4), King Bob-omb's Powderkeg Mine (SMP), Sweet Dream (MP5),
2021-06-06 03:05:41	@_2257	yes
2021-06-06 03:05:42	@Anton{Politoed}	Shy Guy's Shuffle City (MP:IT), Whimsical Waters (MP10), Shy Guy's Perplex Express (MP8), Horror Land (MP2), Mario's Rainbow Castle (MP))
2021-06-06 03:05:47	@_2257	hes the clown from spm
2021-06-06 03:05:52	NinjaSquid	Dimentio*
2021-06-06 03:06:04	Lakituthequick	boards are good
2021-06-06 03:06:08	@Anton{Politoed}	M23 Favorite Game Mechanic (Wario transformations (Wario Land series), F.L.U.D.D. (Super Mario Sunshine), Gravity (Super Mario Galaxy), Cappy/Captures (Super Mario Odyssey), Badges (Paper Mario series), Bros. Attacks (Mario & Luigi series), Kart customization (Mario Kart series), Elements (Luigi's Mansion), Poltergust (Luigi's Mansion series),
2021-06-06 03:06:09	@Anton{Politoed}	Gooigi (Luigi's Mansion 3), Egg mechanics (Yoshi series), Partners (Paper Mario series), Anti-gravity (Mario Kart 8), Timed hits/action commands (Mario RPG titles), Two racers (Mario Kart: Double Dash!!))
2021-06-06 03:06:10	Pitohui	M22 looks good
2021-06-06 03:06:27	Lakituthequick	i believe this one is okay
2021-06-06 03:06:29	Smasher	was there any reason to include marios super picross on m21 now that its available on snes online actually
2021-06-06 03:06:45	Smasher	or change mario's picross to series or something
2021-06-06 03:07:03	@turb	oh
2021-06-06 03:07:07	@turb	maybe we should change that yeah
2021-06-06 03:07:12	Lakituthequick	i mean, it's called 'game'
2021-06-06 03:07:14	@turb	i forogot there were several picrosses
2021-06-06 03:07:15	Smasher	sorry i was in the middle of thinking about what i wanted to say for that one and it scrolled too fast
2021-06-06 03:07:21	Lakituthequick	the few series are moe exceptions i think
2021-06-06 03:07:26	@turb	yeah but dr mario is there as a series
2021-06-06 03:07:28	@turb	idk
2021-06-06 03:07:35	Lakituthequick	unless super picross is excellent, i haven't played it
2021-06-06 03:07:43	@turb	i enjoyed it
2021-06-06 03:07:47	Lakituthequick	not feeling strongly about either case, just noting it
2021-06-06 03:07:48	Smasher	i've played about six hours of it
2021-06-06 03:07:54	Smasher	it's picross, and it's good
2021-06-06 03:07:57	Shoey	that's a lot of hours smasher
2021-06-06 03:08:01	@Anton{Politoed}	the series exceptions are more because each game in those respective sets are basically the same
2021-06-06 03:08:03	Smasher	havent finished it yet
2021-06-06 03:08:11	@Anton{Politoed}	and it'd be silly to either focus on one or exclude one
2021-06-06 03:08:13	@Anton{Politoed}	they're the fucking same
2021-06-06 03:08:20	Lakituthequick	yes
2021-06-06 03:08:33	Lakituthequick	my question would be does this apply to picross
2021-06-06 03:08:34	Smasher	i also havent played mario's picross gb, but i can't imagine it's much different as it's picross
2021-06-06 03:08:54	@turb	i remember them being roughly the same
2021-06-06 03:09:21	@Anton{Politoed}	i'll slap a (series) on it
2021-06-06 03:09:31	Smasher	that would be my recommendation
2021-06-06 03:09:48	Smasher	im looking at this and it's literally picross which is exactly what the super famicom one is
2021-06-06 03:10:18	Lakituthequick	mario picross
2021-06-06 03:10:20	Lakituthequick	it's picross 
2021-06-06 03:10:23	Lakituthequick	but mario
2021-06-06 03:10:26	Smasher	now that theres more than one available worldwide, might as well
2021-06-06 03:10:33	@Anton{Politoed}	M24 Favorite Merchandise (Club Nintendo Hanafuda or Mario Hanafuda, Monopoly Gamer or Super Mario Bros. Monopoly, LEGO Super Mario, Super Mario Chess, Super Mario Cereal, Super Mario Characters Figurine (2010 Platinum Elite Status Reward), UNO Super Mario, K'NEX figures, Furuta Chocolate Egg figurines, San-ei Super Mario plushies, 
2021-06-06 03:10:34	@Anton{Politoed}	Jakks Pacific Super Mario Bros. Deluxe Bowser's Castle playset, amiibo, Original Soundtrack releases)
2021-06-06 03:10:38	@Anton{Politoed}	so this one seems unfinished
2021-06-06 03:10:44	Pitohui	https://www.marioboards.com/threads/43740/post-2275214 - I had words here
2021-06-06 03:10:45	@Anton{Politoed}	decisions to make on the first few
2021-06-06 03:10:51	@Anton{Politoed}	there was a thing about the jakks pacific yeah
2021-06-06 03:11:05	Pitohui	Basically found out that there's multiple playsets now, like a Peach's Castle and an Underwater set
2021-06-06 03:11:11	Pitohui	Along with a bunch of standalone figures
2021-06-06 03:11:17	Pitohui	So I thought those could become:
2021-06-06 03:11:21	@Anton{Politoed}	i'm up for taking pitohui's suggestion whole-ass
2021-06-06 03:11:30	Pitohui	-Jakks Pacific Playsets
2021-06-06 03:11:37	Pitohui	-Jakks Pacific Super Mario figurines
2021-06-06 03:11:40	Smasher	that makes a lot of sense to me
2021-06-06 03:11:44	@_2257	yeah
2021-06-06 03:12:04	@Anton{Politoed}	as for Club Nintendo Hanafuda or Mario Hanafuda, Monopoly Gamer or Super Mario Bros. Monopoly, it's a matter of which one is more relevant
2021-06-06 03:12:05	Pitohui	(I bought my niece and nephews a Peach's Castle set last weekend, not coincidentally)
2021-06-06 03:12:45	Pitohui	I'm pretty sure Super Mario Bros. Monopoly is more recent and better-known, on that front
2021-06-06 03:12:59	@Anton{Politoed}	likewise with club nintendo hanafuda, but
2021-06-06 03:13:05	@Anton{Politoed}	those were just north america, afaik?
2021-06-06 03:14:10	Shoey	I mean i'd think you gotta keep super mario bros monopoly 
2021-06-06 03:14:24	Shoey	the club nintendo cards if theyre the one i'm thinking of were given out like 6 years ago
2021-06-06 03:14:40	Pitohui	https://www.mariowiki.com/Mario_Hanafuda - Mario hanafuda just had a re-release in Europe last year, it looks like
2021-06-06 03:14:41	@_2257	i think it should just say mario hanafuda because that could generically mean any official hanafuda set with a mario theme
2021-06-06 03:14:52	@_2257	club nintendo hanafuda doesn't imply mario
2021-06-06 03:15:17	Lakituthequick	i'm inclined to per 22
2021-06-06 03:15:40	@turb	i will also per that
2021-06-06 03:15:53	Perch	i, too, per turb
2021-06-06 03:16:09	@Anton{Politoed}	club nintendo has this, though  https://www.mariowiki.com/File:CNH_Aug_2.png
2021-06-06 03:16:22	Lakituthequick	'per' is such a silly word
2021-06-06 03:16:29	Pitohui	...a compelling argument
2021-06-06 03:16:37	@Anton{Politoed}	i guess the other one does have this  https://www.mariowiki.com/File:MH_Jun_2.svg
2021-06-06 03:16:52	Pitohui	(in seriousness, though, I agree with 22 here)
2021-06-06 03:16:58	@_2257	my argument is more that i dont think people even know the official names and 'mario hanafuda' implies the correct thing more clearly
2021-06-06 03:17:10	Lakituthequick	consider, https://www.mariowiki.com/File:MH_Jan_2.svg
2021-06-06 03:17:26	@Anton{Politoed}	no kamek either way
2021-06-06 03:17:40	Lakituthequick	i spend two days staring at those svgs
2021-06-06 03:17:40	Pitohui	Another good point, LTQ
2021-06-06 03:17:42	@Anton{Politoed}	ok anything else with M24?
2021-06-06 03:17:52	Pitohui	I have nothing else here
2021-06-06 03:18:12	@Anton{Politoed}	M25 Favorite 2D Mario Level (World 1-1 (SMB), Donut Plains 1 (SMW), Forest of Illusion 3 (SMW), World 1-2 (SMB), World 2-Pyramid (SMB3), Donut Secret House (SMW), Painted Swampland (NSMBU), Front Door (SMW), World 8-7 (NSMBW), World 4-1 (SMB3), Yoshi's Island 2 (SMW), World 5-3 (SMB3), World 2-3 (NSMB), World 1-1 (NSMB), World 8-4 (SMB))
2021-06-06 03:18:19	Lakituthequick	-
2021-06-06 03:18:31	@_2257	seems fine
2021-06-06 03:18:39	Pitohui	Looks good
2021-06-06 03:18:40	Lakituthequick	gods why did nintendo not start naming things until 10 years ago
2021-06-06 03:18:54	@Anton{Politoed}	M26 Favorite 3D Mario Level (Toy Time Galaxy (SMG), Good Egg Galaxy (SMG), Gusty Garden Galaxy (SMG), Whomp's Fortress/Throwback Galaxy (SM64/SMG2), Cosmic Cove Galaxy (SMG2), Bob-omb Battlefield (SM64), Tick Tock Clock (SM64), Pinna Park (SMS), Sirena Beach (SMS), Delfino Plaza/Airstrip (SMS), Mount Must Dash (SM3DW), The Great Tower of Bowser Land (SM3DW), 
2021-06-06 03:18:54	@Anton{Politoed}	Champion's Road (SM3DW), Metro Kingdom (SMO), Bowser's Kingdom (SMO), Wooded Kingdom (SMO), Sand Kingdom (SMO), Grandmaster Galaxy (SMG2))
2021-06-06 03:19:04	Lakituthequick	yes yes i liked uh, world 2-3 :shrug:
2021-06-06 03:19:12	Lakituthequick	-
2021-06-06 03:19:30	Smasher	i forget the 3d land and 3d world levels even have names
2021-06-06 03:19:41	@Anton{Politoed}	M27 Favorite Boss Battle (Brobot (SPM), Rawk Hawk (PM:TTYD), Bowser in the Sky (SM64), Kaptain K. Rool 1 and 2 (DKC2), Super Dimentio (SPM), Elder Princess Shroob (M&L:PiT), Megaleg (SMG), General Guy (PM), Kingfin (SMG), Popple and Rookie (M&L:SS), Dark Bowser (M&L:BIS), Bowser/Meowser (SM3DW), Bowser (SMG), Mechawiggler (SMO), Bowser (SMO), 
2021-06-06 03:19:41	@Anton{Politoed}	Shadow Queen (PM:TTYD), Fury Bowser (SM3DW+BF), King Olly (PM:TOK))
2021-06-06 03:19:44	Lakituthequick	3d land doesn't
2021-06-06 03:19:50	Lakituthequick	world does, thank god
2021-06-06 03:19:52	Smasher	LOL
2021-06-06 03:20:06	Smasher	shows how much i cared about 3d land
2021-06-06 03:20:16	Pitohui	M27 looks good
2021-06-06 03:20:21	Smasher	nothing to say here
2021-06-06 03:20:32	Lakituthequick	we have no 3dl things on m26 so neither do we
2021-06-06 03:20:32	@Anton{Politoed}	M28 Favorite Game Setting (Mushroom Kingdom (SMB), Mushroom Kingdom (PM), Super Mario RPG World, Dinosaur Land (SMW), Yoshi's Island (SMW2:YI), Isle Delfino (SMS), Beanbean Kingdom (M&L:SS), Rogueport & surrounding areas (PM:TTYD), Flipside/Flopside & dimensions (SPM), Donkey Kong Island (DKC), Sprixie Kingdom (SM3DW), Comet Observatory & galaxies (SMG), 
2021-06-06 03:20:33	@Anton{Politoed}	Pi'illo Island (M&L:DT), Super Mario Odyssey World, Peach's Castle (SM64), The Last Resort (LM3), Lake Lapcat (SM3DW+BF), Mushroom Kingdom (PM:TOK))
2021-06-06 03:20:54	Lakituthequick	lapcat is cute
2021-06-06 03:20:57	Lakituthequick	no notes
2021-06-06 03:21:09	@Anton{Politoed}	M29 Favorite Classic Game (GCN/GBA and older) (Super Mario World, Super Mario 64, Paper Mario, Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars, Super Mario Bros., Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, Mario Kart 64, Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest, Mario Party 3, Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Super Mario Sunshine, Wario Land 4,
2021-06-06 03:21:10	@Anton{Politoed}	Luigi's Mansion, Mario Kart: Double Dash!!, Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, Super Mario Bros. 2 (USA), Donkey Kong Country)
2021-06-06 03:21:55	NinjaSquid	looks fine
2021-06-06 03:22:02	Lakituthequick	^
2021-06-06 03:22:10	Smasher	skip
2021-06-06 03:22:22	@Anton{Politoed}	M30 Favorite Modern Game (Wii/DS and newer) (Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Mario Kart Wii, Super Mario 3D Land, Super Paper Mario, Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon, Super Mario 3D World  + Bowser's Fury, Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Super Mario Maker, Yoshi's Woolly World/Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World, Super Mario Odyssey, 
2021-06-06 03:22:22	@Anton{Politoed}	Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, Luigi's Mansion 3, Super Mario Maker 2, Paper Mario: The Origami King, Mario & Luigi: Dream Team, New Super Mario Bros. Wii)
2021-06-06 03:23:05	@_2257	looks fine
2021-06-06 03:23:06	Smasher	nothing comes to mind here either
2021-06-06 03:23:19	Lakituthequick	gaming
2021-06-06 03:23:29	@Anton{Politoed}	F1 Worst Character (Mario, Princess Daisy, Waluigi, Wario, Petey Piranha, Birdo, Mimi, Starlow, Lubba, Bowser Jr., Toad, Fawful, Pink Gold Peach, Baby Rosalina, Kersti, Rosalina, Spewart)
2021-06-06 03:23:38	NinjaSquid	skip
2021-06-06 03:23:44	@turb	gaming
2021-06-06 03:23:47	Pitohui	No problems here
2021-06-06 03:23:48	@Anton{Politoed}	F2 Worst 2D Level (The Very Loooooong Cave (SMW2:YI), Tubular (SMW), World 8-3 (SMB), Endless World of Yoshis (SMW2:YI), World 9-7 (NSMBW), Lakitu's Wall (SMW2:YI), Mine Cart Madness (DKC), World 8-Bowser's Castle (SMB3), Stampede Sprint (DKC3), World 8-1 (SMB), World 4-2 (SMB2), World 7-8 (SMB3), The Big Board (WL4), Pendulum Castle (NSMBU), 
2021-06-06 03:23:49	@Anton{Politoed}	Doodle Woods (WL4), World 7-4 (SMB), World C-3 (SMB:TLL), Fire Bar Sprint (NSLU))
2021-06-06 03:23:54	Perch	:partyhonk:
2021-06-06 03:23:55	@_2257	cant believe rosalina is on there honestly
2021-06-06 03:24:01	Lakituthequick	i'm glad this pinged me
2021-06-06 03:24:02	@_2257	does she habve a big hatedom
2021-06-06 03:24:13	Shoey	I think she does 
2021-06-06 03:24:18	@_2257	weird
2021-06-06 03:24:19	NinjaSquid	really?
2021-06-06 03:24:20	@Anton{Politoed}	F3 Worst 3D Level (Corona Mountain (SMS), Lily Pad Ride/The Toxic Waterfall (SMS), Pachinko Game (SMS), Stone Cyclone Galaxy (SMG2), Wing Mario Over the Rainbow/Over the Rainbows (SM64), Sling Pod Galaxy (SMG), Rolling Gizmo Galaxy (SMG), Boss Blitz Galaxy (SMG2), Gold Leaf Galaxy (SMG), Bubble Breeze Galaxy (SMG), World 1-1 (SM3DL), 
2021-06-06 03:24:21	@Anton{Politoed}	Broken Blue Bully Belt (SM3DW), Fuzzy Time Mine (SM3DW), Champion's Road (SM3DW), Grandmaster Galaxy (SMG2), Luncheon Kingdom (SMO), Dark Side (SMO), Darker Side (SMO))
2021-06-06 03:24:31	Smasher	i saw ire for a while but not really much anymore
2021-06-06 03:24:31	Pitohui	A lot of people came to dislike her for appearing in a bunch of spin-offs
2021-06-06 03:24:41	@Anton{Politoed}	rosalina is consistently the lowest polling F1 nominee, so she could be removed soon
2021-06-06 03:24:50	Lakituthequick	unforgettable luncheon go brrr
2021-06-06 03:25:01	@_2257	wow are those people gonna be disappointed when they learn about every other mario character
2021-06-06 03:25:06	Smasher	probably next year or two will toss her
2021-06-06 03:25:08	Smasher	we'll
2021-06-06 03:25:17	Smasher	anyway nothing to say in either of these
2021-06-06 03:25:25	@Anton{Politoed}	F4 Worst RPG Area (Bowser's Keep (SMRPG), Dry Dry Desert (PM), Flower Fields (PM), Twilight Trail (PM:TTYD), Merlee's Mansion (SPM), Sammer's Kingdom (SPM), The Overthere (SPM), Long Fall Falls (PM:SS), Sandshifter Ruins (PM:SS), Drybake Stadium (PM:SS), Teehee Valley (M&L:SS), Joke's End (M&L:SS), Oho Ocean (M&L:SS), Shroob Castle (M&L:PiT), 
2021-06-06 03:25:26	@Anton{Politoed}	oad Town (M&L:PiT), Dreamy Mount Pajamaja (M&L:DT), Violet Passage (PM:CS), Spooky Trails (M+RKB)) 
2021-06-06 03:25:29	@Anton{Politoed}	T*
2021-06-06 03:25:32	Lakituthequick	pauline is the new rosalina
2021-06-06 03:25:43	NinjaSquid	i like Pauline tbh
2021-06-06 03:25:56	Lakituthequick	so do i, no worries there
2021-06-06 03:26:00	@_2257	looks fine
2021-06-06 03:26:10	NinjaSquid	F4 looks good
2021-06-06 03:26:16	@Anton{Politoed}	F5 Worst Level Concept (Ice levels, Water levels, Autoscrolling levels, Ghost Houses, Star Ball galaxies, Purple Coin levels, "Secret of _" levels (SMS), Red Coin missions (SMS), Surfing galaxies, Automatic levels (SMM), Restrictively low timers, Checkpointless challenges, Cappyless/F.L.U.D.D.less missions, Blast the Fury Blocks (SM3DW+BF), 
2021-06-06 03:26:16	@Anton{Politoed}	Roshambo Temples (PM:CS))
2021-06-06 03:26:41	Lakituthequick	we established the T in Roshambo is capitalised in-game right
2021-06-06 03:26:55	NinjaSquid	yeah
2021-06-06 03:26:58	Lakituthequick	alright
2021-06-06 03:27:04	Lakituthequick	no other points
2021-06-06 03:27:10	@Anton{Politoed}	F6 Worst Spin-off (Dr. Mario 64, Mario Pinball Land, Mario Kart: Super Circuit, Mario Party 9, Mario Super Sluggers, Mario Party Advance, Mario Party 10, Paper Mario: Sticker Star, Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash, Mario Kart Arcade GP games, Super Mario Run, Game & Wario, Mario Kart Tour, Dr. Mario World)
2021-06-06 03:27:23	Lakituthequick	gacha
2021-06-06 03:27:33	@Anton{Politoed}	F7 Worst Enemy (Lakitus, Big Berthas, Wizzerds, Bandits, Rocky Wrenches, Bloopers, Cursyas, Goombas, Hammer Bros., Parabones, Fangs, Grinders (SMW2:YI)/Ukikis, Fuzzies, Burrbos, Urban Stingbies)
2021-06-06 03:27:45	Lakituthequick	remove lakitus
2021-06-06 03:27:47	Lakituthequick	(no points)
2021-06-06 03:27:50	NinjaSquid	per LTQ
2021-06-06 03:27:55	Pitohui	Nothing here
2021-06-06 03:28:05	@_2257	:pensive:
2021-06-06 03:28:08	NinjaSquid	F7 is good
2021-06-06 03:28:33	@Anton{Politoed}	F8 Worst Mario Kart Course (Choco Mountain, Shy Guy Beach, Rainbow Road (SMK), Yoshi Falls, Grumble Volcano, Sherbet Land (MK64), Koopa Beach 2, Banshee Boardwalk, Maka Wuhu, Rosalina's Ice World, Rainbow Road (MKWii), Dolphin Shoals, Bone-Dry Dunes, Rainbow Road (MK64), Baby Park, Figure-8 Circuit, Rainbow Road (MK8), Cheese Land)
2021-06-06 03:28:35	Smasher	don't vote for hammer bros everyone!
2021-06-06 03:28:36	Perch	:hutaowobble:
2021-06-06 03:28:45	Shoey	wait did we remember to add procupuffer?
2021-06-06 03:28:59	Lakituthequick	i crave a new mario kart but nintendo just posted a new video about mk8d so :sad:
2021-06-06 03:29:08	@_2257	...they did?
2021-06-06 03:29:08	Pitohui	Sorry again SGOW but we're not removing Cheese Land. (F8 looks good)
2021-06-06 03:29:10	Lakituthequick	yeah
2021-06-06 03:29:15	@_2257	weird
2021-06-06 03:29:17	Lakituthequick	nintendo minute in which they do things
2021-06-06 03:29:27	Lakituthequick	i haven't actually clicked on it as nintendo minute sucks
2021-06-06 03:29:40	NinjaSquid	it's funny to have Grumble Volcanos on both Favorite and Worst
2021-06-06 03:29:45	Lakituthequick	those two are bad at gaming
2021-06-06 03:29:47	@Anton{Politoed}	F9 Worst Direction of Series (Mario vs. Donkey Kong, Paper Mario, Mario Party, Mario Tennis, New Super Mario Bros., Mario 3D games, WarioWare, Yoshi, Mario & Luigi, Dr. Mario, Mario Kart)
2021-06-06 03:29:50	@_2257	some things are divisive 
2021-06-06 03:30:05	@_2257	i think birdo is also like taht
2021-06-06 03:30:14	Smasher	yep
2021-06-06 03:30:18	@_2257	poor birdo
2021-06-06 03:30:18	Lakituthequick	it happens
2021-06-06 03:30:22	Lakituthequick	f9 good
2021-06-06 03:30:29	Smasher	i like birdo and did not like grumble volcano
2021-06-06 03:30:36	Smasher	im sure others are the opposite
2021-06-06 03:30:39	Shoey	Grumble Volcano is okay 
2021-06-06 03:30:40	NinjaSquid	i like both
2021-06-06 03:30:45	Lakituthequick	GV is cool
2021-06-06 03:30:46	Smasher	and also that
2021-06-06 03:30:47	@_2257	looks fine
2021-06-06 03:30:48	Lakituthequick	:comedy:
2021-06-06 03:30:50	NinjaSquid	Grumble Volcano is great in MK8
2021-06-06 03:30:53	@Anton{Politoed}	F10 Worst Game Mechanic (Dimensional Flipping (SPM), Star Bits (SMG & SMG2), Camera (3D Games), Vibes (SPP), Joystick twirling (MP1), Limited inventory (PM & PM:TTYD), Stickers/Battle Cards (PM:SS & PM:CS), Button mashing (MP1), Gyroscope/motion controls, Vehicles (MP9 & MP10), Extra life system, Chance minigames (Mario Party series), 
2021-06-06 03:30:53	@Anton{Politoed}	Must use easy mode character in 4 player mode (NSMBUDX), Content requiring amiibo, Gacha, Boilerworks rafting (LM3), Non-Boss Ring battles (PM:TOK))
2021-06-06 03:30:58	Lakituthequick	Non-Boss Ring battle (PM:TOK) => Non-boss Ring battle (PM:TOK)
2021-06-06 03:30:58	Lakituthequick	(and maybe the R too, I don't know if it's used officially)
2021-06-06 03:31:36	Lakituthequick	anyone here who plays in english that can confirm that
2021-06-06 03:31:40	Pitohui	Don't think it is, no
2021-06-06 03:31:41	@_2257	having gacha on here feels like underselling how bad it is
2021-06-06 03:31:57	Lakituthequick	alright so it is lowercase then
2021-06-06 03:32:00	@_2257	hopfully the public is tasteful enough to cause it to win
2021-06-06 03:32:07	Pitohui	They did last year, 22
2021-06-06 03:32:10	Shoey	it won last year 22
2021-06-06 03:32:13	Shoey	by a lot i think
2021-06-06 03:32:14	@_2257	great
2021-06-06 03:32:37	@Anton{Politoed}	F11 Most Shameless Business Decision (Mario Kart Tour/Dr. Mario World gacha, Limited-time availability of Super Mario 3D All-Stars, Nintendo Switch Online subscription, Artificial scarcity (NES/SNES mini, certain amiibo), Restricting availability of old games, Requiring YouTube creators to surrender a sizeable cut of their profits, 
2021-06-06 03:32:37	@Anton{Politoed}	Adding advertisements to LEGO Mario voice lines, Refusing to fix issues causing Joy-Con drift at point of production, Frequent takedowns of fan content, Reselling older games at the price of modern releases)
2021-06-06 03:32:43	Lakituthequick	imagine stealing money from preteens
2021-06-06 03:33:09	Lakituthequick	read: their parents
2021-06-06 03:33:22	Lakituthequick	i think this one is fine
2021-06-06 03:33:33	Pitohui	As best I can tell, this one looks good
2021-06-06 03:33:50	@_2257	seems ok
2021-06-06 03:33:56	@Anton{Politoed}	F12 Worst Game Objective (Boshi race (SMRPG), Yoshi Eggs (SMA), Blue Coins (SMS), Rabbits (SM64DS), Flopside Pit of 100 Trials (SPM), Piccolo (SPM), Duel of 100 (SPM), World 9 (NSMBW), One million Coins (NSMB2), Green Stars (SMG2), Completing every level with every character (SM3DW), Chasing General White (PM:TTYD), Super Expert Mode (SMM),
2021-06-06 03:33:56	@Anton{Politoed}	Beach Volleyball (SMO), Jump-Rope Challenge (SMO), Purple Coins (SMG1 & SMG2), 9,999,999 Coins (NSMB2), Collecting all 999 Power Moons (SMO))
2021-06-06 03:34:44	@_2257	i think i would cut the word "all" from the last one
2021-06-06 03:34:53	Lakituthequick	good one
2021-06-06 03:34:55	@_2257	it implies that 999 power moons are a set of 999 specific things
2021-06-06 03:35:02	@_2257	but itsa ctually just a counter you fill up
2021-06-06 03:35:23	@_2257	there are actually like 882 power moons or something, and you just recollect some of them to get all the way to 999
2021-06-06 03:35:39	Lakituthequick	the shopping ones
2021-06-06 03:35:42	@_2257	yes
2021-06-06 03:36:21	@Anton{Politoed}	F13 Worst Remake (Super Mario 64 DS, Super Mario Advance, Super Mario World: Super Mario Advance 2, Yoshi's Island: Super Mario Advance 3, Diddy Kong Racing DS, Super Mario Bros. Deluxe, Luigi's Mansion (3DS), Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions, Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey, New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe, 
2021-06-06 03:36:22	@Anton{Politoed}	Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS, Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition)
2021-06-06 03:36:25	Shoey	Can I real quick I know we missed the award but suggest cutting fangs for porcupuffer on the worst enemy award
2021-06-06 03:36:34	Smasher	yeah cut the word all
2021-06-06 03:37:05	@Anton{Politoed}	porcupuffer got exactly 1 vote last year
2021-06-06 03:37:11	Smasher	we would have room for porcupuffer without needing to cut if we want to do that but i dunno
2021-06-06 03:37:12	@Anton{Politoed}	and I think ever
2021-06-06 03:37:22	@Anton{Politoed}	I'm not adding it, executive decision
2021-06-06 03:37:31	Smasher	rip
2021-06-06 03:37:58	@Anton{Politoed}	the 'don't vote for hammer bros' peeps need to pick a different target than porcupuffer
2021-06-06 03:38:02	@_2257	still think the presence of smas on this award is bizarre 
2021-06-06 03:38:10	@_2257	but i gues people hate it sdo :shrug:
2021-06-06 03:38:11	@Anton{Politoed}	or else it'll be like voting for the green party in a general election
2021-06-06 03:38:33	@_2257	can we add arlo to the award
2021-06-06 03:38:52	@Anton{Politoed}	we can add not DMCAing him to F11
2021-06-06 03:39:03	Smasher	scary
2021-06-06 03:39:14	Lakituthequick	the puppet is cute
2021-06-06 03:39:18	Lakituthequick	that's about it though
2021-06-06 03:39:34	@_2257	you cant forgive arlo just because you like his fursona
2021-06-06 03:39:45	@Anton{Politoed}	F14 Worst Setting (Subcon (SMB2), Starship Mario & galaxies (SMG2), Mushroom Kingdom (SM3DL), Sprixie Kingdom (SM3DW), Flipside/Flopside & dimensions (SPM), Mushroom Kingdom (M&L:PiT), Pi'illo Island (M&L:DT), Party Cube (MP4), Star Carnival (MP8), Shroom City (MPA), Party Islands (MP:IT), Egg Island (YNI), Transformed Wario Castle (WW), 
2021-06-06 03:39:46	@Anton{Politoed}	DK Isles/Crocodile Isle (DK64), The Fun Fair & surrounding areas (MPL), Mushroom Kingdom (PM:SS))
2021-06-06 03:39:47	Lakituthequick	i'm not
2021-06-06 03:39:48	Shoey	I like arlo 
2021-06-06 03:40:08	Pitohui	F14 looks good
2021-06-06 03:40:12	Lakituthequick	-
2021-06-06 03:40:18	@Anton{Politoed}	it's just cookie monster on a diet
2021-06-06 03:40:20	@Anton{Politoed}	shameful
2021-06-06 03:40:25	@_2257	looks ok
2021-06-06 03:40:59	@Anton{Politoed}	F15 Most Disappointing Game (New Super Mario Bros. 2, Paper Mario: Sticker Star, Yoshi's New Island, Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games, Mario Party 10, Super Paper Mario, Mario Party 9, Diddy Kong Racing DS, Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash, Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition, Mario Party: Island Tour, Super Mario Sunshine, 
2021-06-06 03:41:00	@Anton{Politoed}	Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS, Yoshi's Crafted World, Super Mario Party, Mario Kart Tour, Mario Party: The Top 100, Super Mario 3D All-Stars)
2021-06-06 03:41:28	@_2257	looks ok
2021-06-06 03:41:38	Lakituthequick	yes
2021-06-06 03:41:48	NinjaSquid	Yoshi's Crafted World in there is sad :(
2021-06-06 03:41:59	Shoey	only the music in that game was bad!
2021-06-06 03:42:03	Shoey	the rest was good!
2021-06-06 03:42:07	NinjaSquid	yeah
2021-06-06 03:42:11	@Anton{Politoed}	C1 Favorite Active 'Shroom Writer (Superchao, Lakituthequick, Anton, Hooded Pitohui, winstein, Ninja Squid, MrConcreteDonkey, Goombuigi, BBQ Turtle, Yoshi876, Quizmelon, FunkyK38, Koops, Baby Luigi, Shoey, Doomhiker, Roserade, Waluigi Time)
2021-06-06 03:42:15	NinjaSquid	finally
2021-06-06 03:42:16	Shoey	this one yes
2021-06-06 03:42:17	NinjaSquid	that one
2021-06-06 03:42:21	Shoey	I'd like to suggest cutting koops
2021-06-06 03:42:22	NinjaSquid	Koops
2021-06-06 03:42:24	Shoey	and readding Magolor
2021-06-06 03:42:28	Pitohui	Okay, I've gotten a few concerns on this one regarding Koops vs Magolor04726
2021-06-06 03:42:31	@Anton{Politoed}	did something happen
2021-06-06 03:42:34	Shoey	koops hasn't written since october 
2021-06-06 03:42:35	Lakituthequick	what happen
2021-06-06 03:42:40	Pitohui	Magolor got 3rd last year
2021-06-06 03:42:46	@Anton{Politoed}	sure
2021-06-06 03:42:48	Lakituthequick	ah i see
2021-06-06 03:42:48	Shoey	he's won half of the sotm's in his team
2021-06-06 03:42:50	NinjaSquid	Koops hasn't wrote for the 'shroom in the last eight months
2021-06-06 03:42:51	Lakituthequick	that makes an easy swap
2021-06-06 03:42:57	Shoey	and he's written every issue this year
2021-06-06 03:43:26	Pitohui	Koops is strictly speaking still active (he and I worked out a deal for a brief break while staying on as a writer on account of some things he had going on) but Magolor has a strong case
2021-06-06 03:43:35	@_2257	makes sense
2021-06-06 03:43:57	@Anton{Politoed}	the way this was presented for a moment I was thinking oh shit do we need to #cancelkoops
2021-06-06 03:44:05	Pitohui	Oh thank goodness no
2021-06-06 03:44:08	Pitohui	Koops is a good guy
2021-06-06 03:44:09	NinjaSquid	:worry:
2021-06-06 03:44:23	Shoey	yes we need to cancel koops but only from this award :P he's fine everywhere else
2021-06-06 03:44:32	NinjaSquid	Koops is a sweet guy!
2021-06-06 03:44:33	@Anton{Politoed}	C2 Favorite Retired 'Shroom Writer (Mr. Edo, Super Mario Bros., Toadbert101, Andymii, Shokora, Tucayo, YKMR3000, Luigi 64DD, Smasher, Meta Knight, The Pyro Guy, Mariofan169, MsRetroGeek, Parakoopa144, Lord Bowser, Zange, ZelenPixel)
2021-06-06 03:44:41	Lakituthequick	i can't hanndle annother cancellation right now
2021-06-06 03:44:51	Pitohui	I have no comments or concerns on C2
2021-06-06 03:45:31	Lakituthequick	y
2021-06-06 03:45:43	@Anton{Politoed}	C3 Favorite Artist (Toadbert101, Smg2daisy, Lakituthequick, Anton, The Pyro Guy, Fawfulthegreat64, GBAToad, Turboo, BBQ Turtle, ZelenPixel, Magolor04726, Zange, Alex95, Baby Luigi, Koopa con Carne, snack, Waluigi Time, winstein)
2021-06-06 03:46:28	Lakituthequick	is good
2021-06-06 03:46:34	Pitohui	Let me check Koopa con Carne's caps real quick
2021-06-06 03:46:40	Lakituthequick	caps are correct
2021-06-06 03:46:46	@_2257	wow is snack really lowercase 
2021-06-06 03:46:55	@Anton{Politoed}	C4 Favorite 2020 Awards Presentation (C6 - Favorite 'Shroom Team - Lakituthequick, C8 - Best 'Shroom Section Design - MrConcreteDonkey, M5 - Favorite DK Game - Epic Nitwit, M17 - Favorite Mario RPG - Fawfulthegreat64, M18 - Favorite Mario Party Game - MrConcreteDonkey, M23 - Favorite Capture - Hearts, M28 - Favorite Game Setting - BBQ Turtle, 
2021-06-06 03:46:56	@_2257	ive known him for like 10 years now and never noticed,
2021-06-06 03:46:56	Lakituthequick	is he
2021-06-06 03:47:00	Lakituthequick	Seems like "C4 - Favorite 2019 Awards Presentation - The Pyro Guy" is missing from the list, copy error?
2021-06-06 03:47:00	Lakituthequick	Added last week (https://smw.ltquick.nl/irclogs/awards21meeting6 - list is at ":47:16")
2021-06-06 03:47:00	@Anton{Politoed}	C2 - Favorite Retired 'Shroom Writer - GBAToad, M1 - Best Sound Design - The Pyro Guy, M10 - Favorite Lyrical Song - Zange & Roserade, M4 - Favorite Mario Kart Course - Eleven, M19 - Favorite Villain - Anton, M29 - Favorite Classic Game (GCN/GBA and older) - Gabumon, F8 - Worst Mario Kart Course - Gabumon, F7 - Worst Enemy - Baby Luigi, 
2021-06-06 03:47:07	NinjaSquid	I thought it was an upper case
2021-06-06 03:47:09	@Anton{Politoed}	M13 - Favorite Level Theme - Toadbert101 & Super-Yoshi, M15 - Favorite Instrumental Track - Roserade & Zange & The Pyro Guy)
2021-06-06 03:47:19	@Anton{Politoed}	likely an error but let's count
2021-06-06 03:47:27	Pitohui	In the meanwhile, C4 we should change "Epic Nitwit" to "Reverse Input"
2021-06-06 03:47:42	NinjaSquid	Per Pitohui
2021-06-06 03:47:43	Pitohui	Also I counted 17 in this category when doing the dossier
2021-06-06 03:47:48	Pitohui	So there may be one left off
2021-06-06 03:47:49	@_2257	snack is lowecase on discord and capitalised on the forum and wiki
2021-06-06 03:48:02	Lakituthequick	ye my list was 18 exactly
2021-06-06 03:48:15	@Anton{Politoed}	added
2021-06-06 03:48:19	Lakituthequick	cool
2021-06-06 03:48:19	@_2257	and irc for that matter
2021-06-06 03:48:33	@Anton{Politoed}	snack upgraded to Snack
2021-06-06 03:48:40	Pitohui	Okay, "Koopa con Carne" is capitalized as such, so we need to change that on C5, not on C2
2021-06-06 03:48:48	Lakituthequick	what? snack is eveolving!
2021-06-06 03:48:58	Pitohui	*not on C3
2021-06-06 03:49:07	@Anton{Politoed}	C5 Wiki Contributor Award 2020 - 2021 (Alex95, Ray Trace, BBQ Turtle, Doc von Schmeltwick, LuigiMaster123, Koopa con Carne, LinkTheLefty, The Mansion, Scrooge200, Waluigi Time, Keyblade Master, Wynn Liaw, 0blivion, RHG1951, Nintendo101, Pasta937, SuperLuigiDude, PhGuy12)
2021-06-06 03:49:30	Pitohui	This one looks good
2021-06-06 03:49:43	@Anton{Politoed}	C6 Favorite 'Shroom Team (Fake News, Fun Stuff, Palette Swap, Pipe Plaza, Critic Corner, Strategy Wing)
2021-06-06 03:49:51	Pitohui	Skip
2021-06-06 03:49:55	@Anton{Politoed}	C7 Favorite Community Event 2020 - 2021 (Chickens vs Pigs 'Shroomfest, Warm Beverages vs Cool Beverages 'Shroomfest, Heroes vs. Villains 'Shroomfest, Ultimate Location Battle, Rogues in Rogueport Mafia, Sheep Mafia, Toad Brigade Mafia, Awards Killing Game 4, Mushroom City Car Wash (roleplay), World of the Spirits (roleplay), The Altonia Files (roleplay),
2021-06-06 03:49:56	@Anton{Politoed}	Awards Ceremony 2020, April Fool’s Day 2021, Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury Photo Contest)
2021-06-06 03:49:57	@_2257	winstein really is lowercase though
2021-06-06 03:50:13	NinjaSquid	Cool Beverages to Cold Beverages
2021-06-06 03:50:24	Pitohui	Thanks, NS
2021-06-06 03:50:47	NinjaSquid	np! :)
2021-06-06 03:50:55	Pitohui	Other than that, this one is good
2021-06-06 03:51:11	@Anton{Politoed}	C8 Best 'Shroom Section Design (Pokédex Power (Yoshi876), Anniversary Announcements (Lakituthequick), Poll Committee Discussion (11th Poll Committee), NIWA Spotlight (Alex95), Anton's Half-Baked Reviews (Anton), Mach Speed Mayhem (Superchao), It's aMAZEing (Lakituthequick), 'Shroom FM (MrConcreteDonkey), "Koops, Your Emblem is on Fire" (Koops), 
2021-06-06 03:51:11	@Anton{Politoed}	Drawn and Pressed (winstein), TV Tomorrow (Quizmelon), News Flush (Lord Bowser), Picross (Goombuigi), Anagrams (BBQ Turtle), Rose’s Quarantine Reviews (Roserade), Site Seeing (Lakituthequick), Super Mario Maker Showcase (Goombuigi), Parallax (Baby Luigi and Bazooka Mario))
2021-06-06 03:51:37	Pitohui	Oh you already fixed Rose's section - thanks
2021-06-06 03:51:42	Lakituthequick	i haven't checked the last four awards before the meeting so i trust pito here
2021-06-06 03:51:50	Pitohui	Everything else is good here
2021-06-06 03:52:06	Lakituthequick	oh, i see a quote
2021-06-06 03:52:11	Lakituthequick	on Rose's
2021-06-06 03:52:22	Lakituthequick	or apostroph or whatever its called
2021-06-06 03:52:32	@_2257	apostrophe 
2021-06-06 03:52:39	Lakituthequick	yes, thanks
2021-06-06 03:53:01	@_2257	although technically the unicode character might have a different name, like with the hyphen-minus
2021-06-06 03:53:03	@_2257	i dont remember
2021-06-06 03:53:28	@Anton{Politoed}	C9 Favorite Written 'Shroom Section of the Past Year (Anniversary Announcements (Lakituthequick), Mach Speed Mayhem (Superchao), Anton's Half-Baked Reviews (Anton), Drawn and Pressed (winstein), Poll Committee Discussion (11th Poll Committee), Mario's Boombox (Hooded Pitohui), TV Tomorrow (Quizmelon), Doomed Reviews (Doomhiker),
2021-06-06 03:53:28	@Anton{Politoed}	Kingdom Battle Ramble (ZelenPixel), Monthly Inquisition (Goombuigi), Mushroom Kingdom Smackdown (Waluigi Time), Mushroom Tribune (Shoey and Hooded Pitohui), Parallax (Baby Luigi and LeftyGreenMario), Rose's Quarantine Reviews (Roserade), Site Seeing (Lakituthequick), So You Want to Conquer Japan? (Shoey), The Odyssey of a Squid (Ninja Squid))
2021-06-06 03:54:26	Pitohui	This one looks all good to me
2021-06-06 03:54:39	@Anton{Politoed}	C10 Outstanding Community Achievement Award (Porplemontage, 2257, Turboo, Anton, Superchao, GBAToad, Lakituthequick, Glowsquid, Ninja Squid, The Pyro Guy, Roserade, Hooded Pitohui, Doomhiker, Goombuigi, Waluigi Time, Baby Luigi, Shoey)
2021-06-06 03:55:07	@_2257	wow, did we actually get done on time
2021-06-06 03:55:13	Pitohui	All is well on C10
2021-06-06 03:55:18	Perch	we did
2021-06-06 03:55:19	Perch	nice!!
2021-06-06 03:55:24	Lakituthequick	you sound surprised
2021-06-06 03:55:31	Pitohui	(Don't worry TPG I'm still going to get down to C10 on the Dossier)
2021-06-06 03:55:37	@_2257	i thought we were going to not when we were like an hour in 
2021-06-06 03:55:39	@Anton{Politoed}	wii u did it
2021-06-06 03:55:47	Smasher	agreed with every change made while i was afk
2021-06-06 03:55:49	Lakituthequick	:clap:
2021-06-06 03:55:54	Smasher	congrats awards committee
2021-06-06 03:55:57	@Anton{Politoed}	are there any other comments, questions, concerns, compliments, affirmations, etc.
2021-06-06 03:56:07	Smasher	im gay
2021-06-06 03:56:08	Lakituthequick	gayming
2021-06-06 03:56:26	Lakituthequick	good job team
2021-06-06 03:56:28	@Anton{Politoed}	that is indeed what is up next according to the topic
2021-06-06 03:56:34	@Anton{Politoed}	so basically what we do now is
2021-06-06 03:56:36	@Anton{Politoed}	nothing!
2021-06-06 03:56:40	@Anton{Politoed}	you're mostly all free
2021-06-06 03:56:55	@Anton{Politoed}	the work that begins now is my suffering and torment
2021-06-06 03:57:10	@Anton{Politoed}	a bunch of documents and forms I need to create, polls I need to create, etc.
2021-06-06 03:57:14	Lakituthequick	i just reminded myself that crowdsignal exists
2021-06-06 03:57:17	Lakituthequick	my night is ruined
2021-06-06 03:57:34	@Anton{Politoed}	with my handy-dandy accountabilibuddies by my side to make sure I don't make a disastrous typo
2021-06-06 03:57:35	Pitohui	Valid, LTQ
2021-06-06 03:57:53	@Anton{Politoed}	polls go up in basically a week
2021-06-06 03:57:59	Perch	time to disintetigrate my awards-based existence until anton forcibly binds my material form again so he can make me do a presentation
2021-06-06 03:58:07	@Anton{Politoed}	which means the dossier must also be complete by then
2021-06-06 03:58:19	Pitohui	Yep, yep! I'm on track and on-schedule
2021-06-06 03:58:19	Lakituthequick	i believe in pitohui
2021-06-06 03:58:24	@Anton{Politoed}	I'm assuming the poll committee is well aware already that we take over the same space on the main page every year
2021-06-06 03:58:42	@Anton{Politoed}	if not, well, we take over the same space on the main page every year
2021-06-06 03:58:44	Perch	the pc chair is right there so if not something is Very Wrong
2021-06-06 03:58:51	NinjaSquid	lol yeah
2021-06-06 03:58:55	Pitohui	The turnaround time for people to send in their samples they want for the relevant awards will be quick but as always I'll pick for them if they don't respond in time
2021-06-06 03:59:08	Lakituthequick	imagine a thing thats happened for like 10 years being unknown to the pc chair
2021-06-06 03:59:09	Pitohui	And, yes, PC is aware, we're happy to let the AC take over
2021-06-06 03:59:24	@Anton{Politoed}	it was a problem like 3 years ago or something
2021-06-06 03:59:29	Lakituthequick	was it
2021-06-06 03:59:30	Lakituthequick	huh
2021-06-06 04:00:12	@Anton{Politoed}	but yeah otherwise, congrats on a good job!
2021-06-06 04:00:13	@Anton{Politoed}	record time
2021-06-06 04:00:20	@Anton{Politoed}	any further updates will be announced
2021-06-06 04:00:27	Pitohui	Speaking of PC make sure you think about running in the Chairperson Election this month, anyone reading this!
2021-06-06 04:00:29	NinjaSquid	Nice!
2021-06-06 04:00:37	@Anton{Politoed}	up next, we're gay, then polls, then presentation sign-ups
2021-06-06 04:00:40	NinjaSquid	We need to shill for this Pito
2021-06-06 04:00:44	Lakituthequick	imagine being a chair
2021-06-06 04:00:50	@Anton{Politoed}	AC members get priority pick on those, usually a week before it goes public
2021-06-06 04:01:05	@Anton{Politoed}	I've already got mine picked and like 2/5 done
2021-06-06 04:01:55	@Anton{Politoed}	I'll figure something out with the polling and counting
2021-06-06 04:02:00	@Anton{Politoed}	something will happen I'm sure
2021-06-06 04:02:09	@Anton{Politoed}	worst case is we have to manually count
2021-06-06 04:02:17	Pitohui	Six last year, let's see if I can match that this year [s]though ideally we shill hard enough everyone only has to take four or less, including the backup presenters[/s]
2021-06-06 04:02:22	@Anton{Politoed}	which will set back results being sent out by probably 2-3 days more
2021-06-06 04:02:35	@Anton{Politoed}	but we will Do Our Best
2021-06-06 04:02:46	Lakituthequick	i hope either me or 22 will have figured something out by then
2021-06-06 04:02:57	@_2257	oh what am i trying to figure out? 
2021-06-06 04:03:00	@_2257	how to hack polldaddy?
2021-06-06 04:03:01	@Anton{Politoed}	if anyone wants to give me money to pay for crowdsignal for 1-2 months I would not be opposed
2021-06-06 04:03:11	Lakituthequick	possibly
2021-06-06 04:03:20	@Anton{Politoed}	but ultimately I have several large piles of money spread across my room I can dip into for this
2021-06-06 04:03:32	Pitohui	Oh, I mentioned to Turb some time back I have some set aside just for this
2021-06-06 04:03:41	Lakituthequick	if its paid and the api functions again then there is probably not a problem to begin with
2021-06-06 04:03:51	Lakituthequick	we'll see i guess
2021-06-06 04:04:00	@Anton{Politoed}	the show will go on
2021-06-06 04:04:38	@_2257	the api works again but it's compltetly changed in a way that requires everything to be rewritten
2021-06-06 04:04:57	Lakituthequick	did it
2021-06-06 04:05:01	@Anton{Politoed}	horror
2021-06-06 04:05:07	@_2257	no that was me proposing a scenario
2021-06-06 04:05:19	Lakituthequick	oh thank poochy
2021-06-06 04:05:21	@_2257	i wouldnt really be *surprised* if that actually happened though
2021-06-06 04:05:23	Lakituthequick	i was worries a bit
2021-06-06 04:05:53	@Anton{Politoed}	alright but official meeting adjourned
2021-06-06 04:05:55	@Anton{Politoed}	time to shill
2021-06-06 04:06:05	@Anton{Politoed}	everyone follow my new review twitter account  https://twitter.com/HalfBaked_Food
2021-06-06 04:06:20	@Anton{Politoed}	and also read my reviews  https://www.mariowiki.com/The_%27Shroom:Issue_170/Critic_Corner#Anton%27s_Half-Baked_Reviews