[2017-03-26 00:54:44] -->| YOU (Lakituthequick) have joined #mwikiawards [2017-03-26 00:54:44] =-= Topic for #mwikiawards is ``"An Excellent Meeting" - Chef Excellence, 2017 || Awards un-canceled thanks to court decided binding contract || 1st meeting hype || https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=38178.0 Relevant Links || Number of meetings survived: 2 || Our mascot http://i.imgur.com/hbOuM8l.png || jontron is a nazi'' [2017-03-26 00:54:44] =-= Topic for #mwikiawards was set by Anton{Politoed}!Mibbit@tjz-95-024-532-073.stny.res.rr.com on zaterdag 18 maart 2017 04:03:15 [2017-03-26 00:54:44] *ChanServ* [#mwikiawards] Chatroom rules: https://docs.google.com/View?id=drz9zgp_106rcrvqhhj [2017-03-26 00:54:45] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o Lakituthequick by ChanServ [2017-03-26 01:00:01] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o Gamefreak75 by ChanServ [2017-03-26 01:00:20] 4hi it's meeting time [2017-03-26 01:00:22] hi [2017-03-26 01:00:28] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o Superchao by ChanServ [2017-03-26 01:00:28] hi meeting time [2017-03-26 01:00:29] 6yay [2017-03-26 01:00:30] hi [2017-03-26 01:00:38] :clap: [2017-03-26 01:00:53] 4so today we're going to go back to some things we left for the forum [2017-03-26 01:01:03] 4our itinerary today is: [2017-03-26 01:01:05] 4*Tokens [2017-03-26 01:01:12] 4*M9 [2017-03-26 01:01:14] 4*M10 [2017-03-26 01:01:16] 4*M12 [2017-03-26 01:01:22] 4*M19 [2017-03-26 01:01:28] 4*Continue Mario Awards [2017-03-26 01:01:41] hi [2017-03-26 01:01:44] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o Mariofan169 by ChanServ [2017-03-26 01:01:45] ok [2017-03-26 01:02:32] sounds good [2017-03-26 01:02:38] ohayou [2017-03-26 01:02:54] konichiwa [2017-03-26 01:03:22] 4so for tokens [2017-03-26 01:03:23] 4https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=38355.msg1919674#msg1919674 [2017-03-26 01:03:32] 4edo made that post which cleared some of my concerns up [2017-03-26 01:03:59] 4and unless anyone absolutely hates the layout he set up and have decided not to mention anything about it until literally right now just for the sake of throwing a curveball [2017-03-26 01:04:06] 4I intend on following that [2017-03-26 01:04:21] i'm down for that [2017-03-26 01:04:29] i like his plan and would work with it [2017-03-26 01:04:40] 4so step 1 [2017-03-26 01:04:41] 4 1. Make a decision on how to handle token deflation [2017-03-26 01:04:45] per, we just need to decide on how much we'll cut tokens by and work through the rest [2017-03-26 01:04:46] 10seems fine [2017-03-26 01:04:47] 4that's the /10 thing [2017-03-26 01:04:51] ok [2017-03-26 01:05:00] 4https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DB4IWiei2zdpO3sc--E0IgRFZscv6WvwYUKKe6Xus6M/edit#gid=0 [2017-03-26 01:05:04] 4ltq made that to visualize [2017-03-26 01:05:22] 4the leading idea is /10, decision on floor/round/ceiling pending [2017-03-26 01:05:37] 4but does anyone really feel that any of the other options make enough of a difference [2017-03-26 01:05:39] i want to throw a curveball but i cant think of anything [2017-03-26 01:05:43] so i agree [2017-03-26 01:06:20] im now in agreeance with edo in that we should do floor /10 because then it reduces tokens significantly and also resets tokens for people who haven't been active in years [2017-03-26 01:06:34] the other options are only really noticeable with higher numbers [2017-03-26 01:06:36] i wouldn't oppose /10 but /8 seems to get the job done without being as harsh [2017-03-26 01:06:44] im fine with /10 or /8 imo [2017-03-26 01:07:01] but people have mentioned /8 would be weird for calculations which is a valid point [2017-03-26 01:07:03] i dont really see a huge difference between /8 and /10 [2017-03-26 01:07:10] its not a huge factor [2017-03-26 01:07:12] i kinda like /10 better since it's so much easier to eyeball the change [2017-03-26 01:07:24] yeah, i like /10 because its simpler [2017-03-26 01:07:25] 7i prefer 10 too [2017-03-26 01:07:29] 4I personally prefer Round because that's what we here in the US at least have been taught to do with numbers [2017-03-26 01:07:32] 108 makes things awkward [2017-03-26 01:07:33] i mean /10 is both easy to eyeball and ensures we get rid of the problem [2017-03-26 01:07:40] so im good with it [2017-03-26 01:07:42] round? [2017-03-26 01:07:43] 4I literally did not know what floor and ceiling were for a good like 3 minutes while I stared at the sheet [2017-03-26 01:07:53] 4 1-4 round down, 5-9 round up [2017-03-26 01:08:06] oh [2017-03-26 01:08:08] floor is always down, ceiling is always up, personally i prefer floor [2017-03-26 01:08:11] 4floor is round down no matter what, ceiling is round up no matter what [2017-03-26 01:08:22] i prefer rounding, i dont like floor/ceiling [2017-03-26 01:08:22] 4I don't like floor because you'll get things like banjo [2017-03-26 01:08:25] 4who has 129 tokens [2017-03-26 01:08:29] 4it'll be cut to 12 [2017-03-26 01:08:34] 4with round making it 13 [2017-03-26 01:08:39] i prefer rounding myself [2017-03-26 01:08:50] 4it's not a huge difference but I feel that it's unfair enough to avoid doing that [2017-03-26 01:08:51] it's more specific [2017-03-26 01:08:54] yeah [2017-03-26 01:08:58] yeah [2017-03-26 01:08:59] i agree [2017-03-26 01:09:04] ceiling is kind of awkward [2017-03-26 01:09:05] i mean tbf it is only one token so it's not like the end of the world [2017-03-26 01:09:07] per [2017-03-26 01:09:12] but i see what you mean [2017-03-26 01:09:20] i was mostly focusing on the zeros but when you put it like that then round /10 seems like the best option [2017-03-26 01:09:25] so per that [2017-03-26 01:09:27] 7floor is what makes sense to me but i think its just from years of fixed point arithmatic [2017-03-26 01:09:29] |<-- Mariofan169 has left irc.darkmyst.org:6697 (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [2017-03-26 01:09:44] i think i would be ok with floor or round fwiw [2017-03-26 01:09:48] i prefer round though [2017-03-26 01:09:54] ceil is better imo because then you at least keep one token if you have at least one [2017-03-26 01:09:57] not really feeling ceiling here [2017-03-26 01:10:03] i wouldn't mind either floor or round [2017-03-26 01:10:10] i see benefits in both [2017-03-26 01:10:34] 4ok so /10 seems to be the one people are accepting so I won't leave that as a vote [2017-03-26 01:10:39] but i guess if i had to choose then floor cause might as well weed out all the excess tokens we can [2017-03-26 01:10:48] 4but what I'll do is: [2017-03-26 01:10:57] i'd prefer ceiling or round [2017-03-26 01:11:06] i think rounding up or just rounding normally is more fair [2017-03-26 01:11:09] 4Vote: /10 (Floor/Round/Ceiling) [2017-03-26 01:11:12] 4Round [2017-03-26 01:11:13] its a game of inches at that point so [2017-03-26 01:11:16] Round [2017-03-26 01:11:17] round [2017-03-26 01:11:18] Floor [2017-03-26 01:11:22] 10round [2017-03-26 01:11:26] floor /10 weeds out as many tokens as possible, ceiling leaves people with 1 token at least, but rounding is objectively the fairest [2017-03-26 01:11:26] [s]i'd prefer square, though[/s] [2017-03-26 01:11:27] round [2017-03-26 01:11:29] 6round [2017-03-26 01:11:44] r [2017-03-26 01:11:45] 4good idea we'll just ^2 everyone's tokens [2017-03-26 01:11:48] 7f [2017-03-26 01:12:06] [Sun 01:11:45] Anton{Politoed} good idea we'll just ^2 everyone's tokens [2017-03-26 01:12:06] yes [2017-03-26 01:12:08] brb [2017-03-26 01:12:18] round [2017-03-26 01:12:31] 4cirdec would have 896809 [2017-03-26 01:12:32] 4seems fair [2017-03-26 01:12:40] brilliant [2017-03-26 01:12:49] "pass" [2017-03-26 01:13:00] 4ltq coming in clutch with the visualization [2017-03-26 01:13:14] 4meowth: are you alive [2017-03-26 01:13:23] dun [2017-03-26 01:13:32] 2-7-0 [2017-03-26 01:13:39] 4shit i'm gonna have to learn how to count no------thx lb [2017-03-26 01:13:46] 👍 [2017-03-26 01:13:48] 12yes [2017-03-26 01:13:52] 12im not anymore though [2017-03-26 01:13:55] 12i'll be back [2017-03-26 01:14:08] can i nominate myself as backup smasher /s [2017-03-26 01:14:33] 6y [2017-03-26 01:14:35] 4that's 7 out of 9 votes out of a possible 13 present in the meeting out of 18 total [2017-03-26 01:14:40] 4I'd say that's good enough [2017-03-26 01:15:23] whats y for [2017-03-26 01:15:35] 6for lb being replacement smasher [2017-03-26 01:15:44] 6i voted yes [2017-03-26 01:16:00] 4with that, what we (me turb whoever) have to do next is set up the token sheet with the new totals asap and then inform everyone of what was done [2017-03-26 01:16:09] 4and then continue edo's guideline with [2017-03-26 01:16:10] 4 2. Gauge interest in hosting tournaments, map out a tentative list of likely tournaments from that, and try to determine how many tokens that will add to circulation [2017-03-26 01:16:18] o [2017-03-26 01:16:24] 4which we can do in the background idly for the next however long [2017-03-26 01:17:07] sounds good [2017-03-26 01:17:10] also yeah token sheets [2017-03-26 01:17:15] y [2017-03-26 01:17:19] at least ltq has the visualization thing [2017-03-26 01:17:51] that works [2017-03-26 01:17:57] 4ok next up then is M9 Favorite DLC [2017-03-26 01:17:58] 4https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=38373.0 [2017-03-26 01:18:19] 4where we set out to create a set definition to base nominees on instead of going "ehhhhh idk" on each one [2017-03-26 01:18:28] idk [2017-03-26 01:18:44] i like edo's definition [2017-03-26 01:18:45] 4there were some ideas but the only actual scripted definition posted was: [2017-03-26 01:18:47] 4"An optional extension package that introduces new content to the core game. It is purchased once, separately or in a bundle, and does not come with the core game by default. After purchase, access to the extension is immediate and permanent." [2017-03-26 01:19:04] edo worded it well [2017-03-26 01:19:08] 4if anyone feels that needs to be tweaked, now's the time [2017-03-26 01:19:14] i think that works [2017-03-26 01:19:21] this would also like [2017-03-26 01:19:24] exclude boosters [2017-03-26 01:19:25] i think [2017-03-26 01:19:30] temporary pay2win powerups [2017-03-26 01:19:34] so just permanent things [2017-03-26 01:19:38] im good with this [2017-03-26 01:19:41] same [2017-03-26 01:19:42] i would say purchased/downloaded [2017-03-26 01:19:47] to cover free dlc like mercedes benz [2017-03-26 01:19:50] but other than that [2017-03-26 01:19:51] its good [2017-03-26 01:19:53] thats good [2017-03-26 01:19:59] it excludes stuff like w/e you buy with super mario run [2017-03-26 01:19:59] hmm [2017-03-26 01:20:03] and yeah per turb [2017-03-26 01:20:23] actually part of me feels like it's kinda throwing smr up into the air [2017-03-26 01:20:33] it might just be my misunderstanding it though [2017-03-26 01:20:37] 4what do you mean [2017-03-26 01:20:53] i dont think temporary boosters should fall into the dlc category [2017-03-26 01:20:55] imo SMR is a paid game with a demo before you buy [2017-03-26 01:20:56] if thats what you mean [2017-03-26 01:21:10] demos shouldnt count as dlc [2017-03-26 01:21:11] because technically smr fits into edo's definition [2017-03-26 01:21:21] 7ok but [2017-03-26 01:21:24] to me, microtransactions are different from dlc [2017-03-26 01:21:27] 7the free part of smr is not "the core game" [2017-03-26 01:21:29] i was under the impression super mari orun was a demo [2017-03-26 01:21:29] 7so [2017-03-26 01:21:30] yeah [2017-03-26 01:21:32] per gba [2017-03-26 01:21:37] so it doesnt fall under the definition [2017-03-26 01:21:39] 6unless smr had like [2017-03-26 01:21:39] 4right now we're just deciding if this is the definition to go with [2017-03-26 01:21:44] 4+ turb's addition [2017-03-26 01:21:45] 6another 5 worlds or something you could pay for [2017-03-26 01:21:50] i agree with the definition/addition fwiw [2017-03-26 01:21:52] 4if no one has any other complaints we can just accept it [2017-03-26 01:22:00] im good [2017-03-26 01:22:08] 4and then filter all nominees + prospective new ones [2017-03-26 01:22:12] we can debate specific exceptions later [2017-03-26 01:22:15] 4likely later in the same topic on the forum [2017-03-26 01:22:24] tempted to argue for "this excludes microtransactions" to the end but i feel the definition is inclusive enough [2017-03-26 01:22:29] alright [2017-03-26 01:22:29] 👍🏻 [2017-03-26 01:22:37] i'll drop it then [2017-03-26 01:22:38] 10seems okay [2017-03-26 01:22:45] yeah, i feel like microtansactions are included in the definition [2017-03-26 01:22:47] as is [2017-03-26 01:22:49] nothing else really comes to mind so i'm good for now [2017-03-26 01:22:56] 4gr8 so: [2017-03-26 01:23:00] er excluded [2017-03-26 01:23:07] 4"An optional extension package that introduces new content to the core game. It is purchased/downloaded once, separately or in a bundle, and does not come with the core game by default. After purchase, access to the extension is immediate and permanent." [2017-03-26 01:23:18] y [2017-03-26 01:23:22] y [2017-03-26 01:23:23] y [2017-03-26 01:23:24] y [2017-03-26 01:23:26] 7y [2017-03-26 01:23:31] 10y [2017-03-26 01:23:35] 6y [2017-03-26 01:23:39] y [2017-03-26 01:23:45] y [2017-03-26 01:23:49] y [2017-03-26 01:23:56] y expansion pack $0.99 [2017-03-26 01:24:08] 4next then is M10 Favorite Partner Developer [2017-03-26 01:24:10] 4https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=38374.msg1919675#msg1919675 [2017-03-26 01:24:13] 4lb had a good post [2017-03-26 01:24:38] 4what I'd like to do though is see if we can knock some of the longer ones down [2017-03-26 01:24:51] 4those being: [2017-03-26 01:24:52] 4Square Enix (Mario Hoops 3-on-3, Mario Sports Mix, Fortune Street) [2017-03-26 01:24:55] i attempted that with square and retro [2017-03-26 01:24:56] 4Retro Studios (Donkey Kong Country Returns, Mario Kart 7, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze) [2017-03-26 01:25:09] in the case of retro we can drop mk7 because i think people mostly remember them for dkc anyway [2017-03-26 01:25:11] 4and that's it [2017-03-26 01:25:12] knock down how [2017-03-26 01:25:19] yeah drop retro for mk7 [2017-03-26 01:25:26] 4knock down to not list more than 2 games or series [2017-03-26 01:25:31] 4so they're not super long on the polls [2017-03-26 01:25:34] er reverse [2017-03-26 01:25:35] 6shouldn't square have smrpg [2017-03-26 01:25:37] ok [2017-03-26 01:25:38] drop mk7 for retro [2017-03-26 01:25:43] yeah that works [2017-03-26 01:25:46] 7wasnt retros contribution to mk7 literally just providing some art assets to the dk themed tracks [2017-03-26 01:25:50] 7anyway [2017-03-26 01:25:52] yeah i added in smrpg on my second post doof [2017-03-26 01:26:02] 6oh ok [2017-03-26 01:26:11] i think there was an iwata asks about retro and mk7 [2017-03-26 01:26:13] im not sure what to do with square's list [2017-03-26 01:26:14] 6i thought you did [2017-03-26 01:26:16] i'd say drop hoops 3v3 in favour of highlighting recent titles over older ones [2017-03-26 01:26:17] they did more than just 2 assets [2017-03-26 01:26:26] if we have to drop something from square i would probably drop hoops 3v3 and fortune street myself [2017-03-26 01:26:28] per gba [2017-03-26 01:26:32] 6i would say either smrpg or fortune street [2017-03-26 01:26:35] and do sports mix and smrpg [2017-03-26 01:26:37] i'd rather keep smrpg [2017-03-26 01:26:39] what i did for square was smrpg and sports mix [2017-03-26 01:26:41] it's old [2017-03-26 01:26:41] per turb [2017-03-26 01:26:46] 4Square Enix (Super Mario RPG, Mario Sports Mix) [2017-03-26 01:26:47] 4Retro Studios (Donkey Kong Country Returns, Mario Kart 7) [2017-03-26 01:26:49] but it's also the most iconic square/ninty collab [2017-03-26 01:26:50] smrpg is an old, but very notable title [2017-03-26 01:26:52] 4are what lb's changes were [2017-03-26 01:26:53] i think sports mix and smrpg is good [2017-03-26 01:26:58] and sports mix is recent/a more relevant sports collab [2017-03-26 01:26:59] so yeah, i support that combo [2017-03-26 01:27:00] yeah [2017-03-26 01:27:03] per smorts pix and srmgp [2017-03-26 01:27:06] im fine with the sqex change [2017-03-26 01:27:09] yeah that looks good [2017-03-26 01:27:09] disagree with retro change [2017-03-26 01:27:11] per anton/lb [2017-03-26 01:27:11] per square enix change [2017-03-26 01:27:13] dunno about retro change [2017-03-26 01:27:20] especially if their involvement in mk7 wasnt too notable [2017-03-26 01:27:21] depends on how much retro was involved [2017-03-26 01:27:24] retro should be dkcr and dkctf [2017-03-26 01:27:28] ^ [2017-03-26 01:27:30] per gf [2017-03-26 01:27:32] i'd rather have games where they played a big role in [2017-03-26 01:27:39] unless theres proof that retro contributed significantly to the development of mk7 [2017-03-26 01:27:40] 4((also i'll edit the Full List with these after the meeting)) [2017-03-26 01:27:41] so if they weren't very relevant to mk7, i support gf's [2017-03-26 01:27:42] i put in mk7 so it could be more inclusive since not everyone played dkcr/tf [2017-03-26 01:27:45] oh [2017-03-26 01:27:54] but i can see your points [2017-03-26 01:27:55] i mean people will at least recognize dkcr/tf [2017-03-26 01:28:00] well, i dont know enough about these developers so, i'll just sit out, but i like the square changes [2017-03-26 01:28:03] yeah, they're prety well known [2017-03-26 01:28:04] and their involvement with mk7 was minimal [2017-03-26 01:28:05] and like [2017-03-26 01:28:17] i don't want to misportray their focus? [2017-03-26 01:28:19] 4Square Enix (Super Mario RPG, Mario Sports Mix) [2017-03-26 01:28:27] i mean that literally sums up square [2017-03-26 01:28:29] if they basically made two games and provided touchups to a third [2017-03-26 01:28:35] 4Retro Studios (Donkey Kong Country Returns, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze) [2017-03-26 01:28:36] i think we should focus on what they made [2017-03-26 01:28:37] smrpg and mario final fantasy sports crossovers [2017-03-26 01:28:45] rather than forcing an unnecessary diversity [2017-03-26 01:28:53] fair point [2017-03-26 01:29:04] that works for me [2017-03-26 01:29:10] i like both of those changes [2017-03-26 01:29:11] i'd be fine with replacing mk7 with dkctf then [2017-03-26 01:29:20] 4gr8 everyone seems to be in agreement [2017-03-26 01:29:22] 4so I'll do that later [2017-03-26 01:29:25] now on hal [2017-03-26 01:29:25] yay [2017-03-26 01:29:45] 4spoiler alert: hal's nuked [2017-03-26 01:29:53] nearly all the votes were "cut all smash" or "cut all smash except one award [2017-03-26 01:29:57] so hal's dead [2017-03-26 01:29:57] 6waw i'm spoiled [2017-03-26 01:30:00] 4we'll get to that after a brief intermission [2017-03-26 01:30:02] rip hal [2017-03-26 01:30:03] 4that being M12 [2017-03-26 01:30:06] 4https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=38375.0 [2017-03-26 01:30:06] bye hal [2017-03-26 01:30:18] 4poll says don't add boo so that's what we're doing [2017-03-26 01:30:23] 4pretty cut and clear [2017-03-26 01:30:23] blue bowser [2017-03-26 01:30:28] ^ [2017-03-26 01:30:29] waw [2017-03-26 01:30:48] per gba [2017-03-26 01:31:05] 10sounds fine anton [2017-03-26 01:31:21] ok [2017-03-26 01:31:27] 4next thing is ssb [2017-03-26 01:31:29] 4https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=38376.0 [2017-03-26 01:31:39] 4vote solidly fell on "Remove all current SSB elements" [2017-03-26 01:31:54] 4with brock's case-by-case vote also tl;dr being a vote for that too just with a clarification I merged into it [2017-03-26 01:32:11] 4so that's what we'll do [2017-03-26 01:32:39] 4what this means is removing M19 Favorite Super Smash Bros. Character [2017-03-26 01:32:42] 4HAL Laboratory's inclusion in M10 Favorite Partner Developer [2017-03-26 01:32:47] 4Master Core/Fortress's inclusion in M15 Hardest Boss [2017-03-26 01:32:56] 4and Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS/Wii U's inclusion in M30 Favorite Modern Game (GCN/GBA and newer) [2017-03-26 01:33:05] 4the latter 3 i'll do really quick right now [2017-03-26 01:33:17] 7ok so i read the iwata asks thing [2017-03-26 01:33:25] we're repealing m19 but are we also replacing it with the stage award [2017-03-26 01:33:28] 7apparently retro actually created 3/4ths of the courses in mk7 [2017-03-26 01:33:40] 7so thats a pretty substantial contribution and not what i was thinking at all [2017-03-26 01:33:47] 4we haven't decided which award to replace it with yet [2017-03-26 01:33:56] 4there's 3 current options and I want them to be explored [2017-03-26 01:34:13] oh god [2017-03-26 01:34:24] 4ok i made those changes [2017-03-26 01:34:31] ok [2017-03-26 01:34:32] uh well we can debate the partner developer thing again later i guess [2017-03-26 01:34:36] if mk7 scares anyone [2017-03-26 01:34:45] not now though [2017-03-26 01:35:09] 4we can get back to it before i do the next thing [2017-03-26 01:35:12] 4since we never actually voted [2017-03-26 01:35:26] 4Retro Studios (Donkey Kong Country Returns, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, Mario Kart 7) [2017-03-26 01:35:26] now i'm torn [2017-03-26 01:35:29] 4that's too long [2017-03-26 01:35:34] 4mostly because the dk names are too long [2017-03-26 01:35:41] 10cant we just say something like [2017-03-26 01:35:46] 10Donkey Kong Country Reboot [2017-03-26 01:35:54] nah [2017-03-26 01:35:57] idk that seems a bit vague [2017-03-26 01:36:00] since they actually contributed heavily to mk7, i'm fine with dropping one DK for MK& [2017-03-26 01:36:03] *MK7 [2017-03-26 01:36:11] Donkey Kong Country Returns/Tropical Freeze? [2017-03-26 01:36:14] is that still too long [2017-03-26 01:36:21] 6if so drop dkcr since it's older [2017-03-26 01:36:22] i'm in favour for shortening the second Donkey Kong Country to DKC: [2017-03-26 01:36:27] i mean obviously they arent the same game but [2017-03-26 01:36:28] beats the 'full names' rule [2017-03-26 01:36:33] ah [2017-03-26 01:36:34] cam we ise abbrevoatopms [2017-03-26 01:36:35] they were by the same dev [2017-03-26 01:36:37] 6(and that tf is so amazing) [2017-03-26 01:36:40] 4if it means anything [2017-03-26 01:36:43] 4 1) Donkey Kong Country Returns/Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D — 483 — 20.32% 2) Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze — 480 — 20.19% [2017-03-26 01:36:45] can we use abbrivations [2017-03-26 01:36:46] 4they were basically even [2017-03-26 01:36:54] 4also we have a precedent to not using abbreviations [2017-03-26 01:36:55] 12Hi! [2017-03-26 01:37:02] Hi, Smasher! [2017-03-26 01:37:04] 4this is a standard we debated for a lot more time than we really should've last year [2017-03-26 01:37:04] 6joi [2017-03-26 01:37:06] 6hoi [2017-03-26 01:37:11] 4so I'm inclined to not mess with it ever again [2017-03-26 01:37:13] tell retro to make a new game with a shorter title and credit them for that [2017-03-26 01:37:16] anyway [2017-03-26 01:37:29] maybe it should be decided on which one sold more [2017-03-26 01:37:33] 12btw wasnt ssb64 on m29 [2017-03-26 01:37:47] i think we killed it last year [2017-03-26 01:37:50] even though i feel like dkcr sold exponentially more just cause literally no one bought a wii u [2017-03-26 01:37:53] returns probably sold more by virtue of being on the wii u [2017-03-26 01:37:57] on the WII god damn it [2017-03-26 01:37:59] not the wii u [2017-03-26 01:38:00] 4oh, I missed it [2017-03-26 01:38:05] 4ssb is retroactively nuked too [2017-03-26 01:38:08] this is anecdotal as hell but i didn't know retro had anything to do with mk7 until today so i feel they're more well known for donkey kong [2017-03-26 01:38:26] -->| Gamefreak75_ (NewYokuba@ram-60-96-440-89.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #mwikiawards [2017-03-26 01:38:29] 12i dont we touched that award last year at all perch [2017-03-26 01:38:29] 7well [2017-03-26 01:38:35] 12i didnt know either [2017-03-26 01:38:37] 12but [2017-03-26 01:38:37] yeah gba has a bit of a point i guess [2017-03-26 01:38:38] 7thats a point in favor of mk7 then [2017-03-26 01:38:41] but the award would teach people [2017-03-26 01:38:47] 12_____ [2017-03-26 01:39:00] 7since the whole idea of the game titlesw is to explain to people what developers worked on what [2017-03-26 01:39:03] 6gfcgc fx [2017-03-26 01:39:07] 6woops sorry [2017-03-26 01:39:14] if we're going by recent and greatest game then mk7 and tropical freeze would be my picks [2017-03-26 01:39:22] hmm [2017-03-26 01:39:27] 6per gbatoad [2017-03-26 01:39:35] mk7 has great credits music, you shouldn't have missed retro [2017-03-26 01:39:37] 10per gba [2017-03-26 01:39:48] per gba [2017-03-26 01:39:52] (but i get it) [2017-03-26 01:39:54] yeah i'd be satisfied with that [2017-03-26 01:39:56] per gba [2017-03-26 01:39:57] 4ok so let's do a vote [2017-03-26 01:39:57] y [2017-03-26 01:40:04] 12tf and mk7 [2017-03-26 01:40:09]