[2017-04-09 02:00:28] 4ok here we are at meeting number ??? probably 4 [2017-04-09 02:00:34] 4I can't count, that's why we hired smasher [2017-04-09 02:00:43] 6i thoguth it was 5 [2017-04-09 02:00:52] the fourth was last week [2017-04-09 02:00:57] 4today the only thing we have scheduled to tackle is finishing up fail awards from where we left off [2017-04-09 02:00:59] 4see, i can't count [2017-04-09 02:01:17] 3it's certainly not number 1 [2017-04-09 02:01:19] 4https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MKs8Rz9QsrkL88EfSI-HAGwSoNQDZT8Tt6MHMDJAFVI/edit [2017-04-09 02:01:24] 4https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yL47QoJ30K51pFmRyvdEpZ0g1ulv5t6gLBQqHE_LBws/edit#heading=h.4qouyog6mfzh [2017-04-09 02:01:24] we are though [2017-04-09 02:01:42] 4so first up [2017-04-09 02:01:47] 4F8 Worst Mario Kart Course (Choco Mountain, Sky Garden, Shy Guy Beach, Rainbow Road (SNES), Yoshi Falls, Grumble Volcano, Sherbet Land (N64), Koopa Beach 2, Banshee Boardwalk, Maple Treeway, Maka Wuhu, Rosalina’s Ice World, Rainbow Road (Wii), Dolphin Shoals, Bone-Dry Dunes) [2017-04-09 02:02:00] 4 13) Dolphin Shoals — 79 — 3.37% 14) Sky Garden — 50 — 2.13% 15) Maple Treeway — 33 — 1.41% 16) O. Rainbow Road (N64) — 20 — 0.85% 17) O. Baby Park — 17 — 0.72% 18) O. Figure-8 Circuit — 16 — 0.68% 19) O. Rainbow Road (Wii U) — 13 — 0.55% [2017-04-09 02:02:27] 4as much as I hate Maple Treeway personally, I think we can chop it for Rainbow Road N64 [2017-04-09 02:02:31] 4but are there any others to consider [2017-04-09 02:02:37] i agree with that chopping [2017-04-09 02:02:40] hmmmm [2017-04-09 02:02:41] 4I don't think any new ones were made [2017-04-09 02:02:48] 4is deluxe doing anything [2017-04-09 02:02:49] maaaaybe sky garden vs. baby park would be worth considering? [2017-04-09 02:02:51] no [2017-04-09 02:02:52] beyond that no [2017-04-09 02:03:00] no deluxe is just battle courses [2017-04-09 02:03:01] mk8dx is only doing battle stuff [2017-04-09 02:03:03] yeah [2017-04-09 02:03:06] Deluxe does battles courses but not races courses [2017-04-09 02:03:26] 4ok [2017-04-09 02:03:36] 4so, ! [2017-04-09 02:03:44] 6i personally like maple treeway and baby park but i wouldn't really care if either are chopped or added [2017-04-09 02:03:51] 7man [2017-04-09 02:04:01] 7have we ever had a mario kart battle mode themed award [2017-04-09 02:04:14] 6i dont remember we ever had [2017-04-09 02:04:16] 4I don't think so, and maybe it can be shoehorned into this one [2017-04-09 02:04:23] 7we should totally do that this year [2017-04-09 02:04:25] 3favorite balloon color [2017-04-09 02:04:33] 7to coincide with mk8dx [2017-04-09 02:04:37] i was actually gonna bring that up as a suggestion since deluxe will be out [2017-04-09 02:04:38] 4do what [2017-04-09 02:04:42] gdi 22 [2017-04-09 02:04:43] 4new award or just add them in [2017-04-09 02:04:49] 7had a favorite battle track award or sth [2017-04-09 02:04:50] oh that actually wouldn't be a bad idea [2017-04-09 02:04:50] new award [2017-04-09 02:04:57] If we add them in then like [2017-04-09 02:04:59] 4if there's a new award we need to remove one [2017-04-09 02:05:07] combining might make things to bloated [2017-04-09 02:05:07] The award will need a huge overhaul [2017-04-09 02:05:15] 4and also this is Fail right now so keep that in mind [2017-04-09 02:05:31] 7yeah i only said it now because it just occured to me [2017-04-09 02:05:36] 3we could save this idea for when we go through all the awards again [2017-04-09 02:05:36] 7its not really somethign to discuss now [2017-04-09 02:05:44] per edo [2017-04-09 02:05:46] 4ok [2017-04-09 02:05:47] 3and use the time to brainstorm shit on the forum [2017-04-09 02:06:11] 4what we could do then is tidy up this award into a finished state if to be left as its current definition [2017-04-09 02:06:13] 4and with that [2017-04-09 02:06:13] 10i wouldnt mind either way if maple treeway was replaced with n64 rr or if it wasnt [2017-04-09 02:06:16] 4Vote: Remove "Maple Treeway" from F8? (y/n/a) [2017-04-09 02:06:25] 3a [2017-04-09 02:06:27] 6y [2017-04-09 02:06:28] y [2017-04-09 02:06:28] a [2017-04-09 02:06:30] y [2017-04-09 02:06:35] y [2017-04-09 02:06:41] 6the wigglers are too cute tbh [2017-04-09 02:06:43] ayyayy [2017-04-09 02:06:47] y [2017-04-09 02:06:51] 10y [2017-04-09 02:06:53] 7y [2017-04-09 02:06:54] 6-0-2 [2017-04-09 02:06:59] 7-0-2 [2017-04-09 02:07:05] 4wigglers are the worst, assuming ukikis have been eradicated and are no longer an issue [2017-04-09 02:07:10] -->| Mariofan169 (Mibbit@p-49-642-291-149.hsd0.in.comcast.net) has joined #mwikiawards [2017-04-09 02:07:16] what, [2017-04-09 02:07:20] -->| turb (turb@526-07-860-740.phnx.qwest.net) has joined #mwikiawards [2017-04-09 02:07:21] 7i dont like wiggler either [2017-04-09 02:07:25] ukikis are adorable [2017-04-09 02:07:27] wigglers are Bad [2017-04-09 02:07:28] 12hi i'm here sorry [2017-04-09 02:07:30] to make up for being late I brought bacon-wrapped shrimp [2017-04-09 02:07:30] 3I wont stand for this discrimination against caterpillars [2017-04-09 02:07:32] ukikia are Worse [2017-04-09 02:07:33] 4they're both disgusting [2017-04-09 02:07:42] i waited for like 30 minutes before I realized [2017-04-09 02:07:43] 7its not caterpillars [2017-04-09 02:07:47] 4anyways Maple Treeway is removed [2017-04-09 02:07:48] 7its wigglers specifically [2017-04-09 02:07:53] 4Vote: Add "Rainbow Road (N64)" to F8? (y/n/a) [2017-04-09 02:07:57] y [2017-04-09 02:07:58] 6y [2017-04-09 02:07:59] 3born anew, we live again [2017-04-09 02:08:00] y [2017-04-09 02:08:00] y [2017-04-09 02:08:00] "maybe someone dislodged the cords" [2017-04-09 02:08:01] 10y [2017-04-09 02:08:02] y [2017-04-09 02:08:03] 7y [2017-04-09 02:08:03] a [2017-04-09 02:08:10] 3hold on [2017-04-09 02:08:11] the cords were dislodged [2017-04-09 02:08:12] 6i'll stand up for you edo since you are a caterpillar in another life/game [2017-04-09 02:08:12] which award is this [2017-04-09 02:08:16] anyway [2017-04-09 02:08:17] what did i miss [2017-04-09 02:08:19] y [2017-04-09 02:08:19] 6worst mario kart track [2017-04-09 02:08:23] 3y [2017-04-09 02:08:24] a [2017-04-09 02:08:25] 12y, and a retroactive y to maple treeway [2017-04-09 02:08:31] we voted to ban you from the ac turb [2017-04-09 02:08:32] 7listen i liked genji [2017-04-09 02:08:33] 4you didn't miss much [2017-04-09 02:08:38] damn [2017-04-09 02:08:39] hello i'm here now [2017-04-09 02:08:42] 1210-0-2 [2017-04-09 02:08:44] 7i jsut think wiggler has an ugly design [2017-04-09 02:08:46] who doesnt like genji [2017-04-09 02:08:52] best robot ninja [2017-04-09 02:08:54] i need to splice in the beginning part of the logs [2017-04-09 02:08:55] 6no gbatoad the better genji [2017-04-09 02:08:56] who needs healing [2017-04-09 02:08:57] so [2017-04-09 02:08:58] healing meme xD [2017-04-09 02:08:59] but raiden [2017-04-09 02:09:00] tfw you type raisin road on your notes [2017-04-09 02:09:01] 4I hate that wiggler gets angry when it's the asshole being an obstruction [2017-04-09 02:09:10] 4like it's not your place to get angry so go fuck off tbh [2017-04-09 02:09:23] 7the other genji [2017-04-09 02:09:32] anton you're the one going through their forest [2017-04-09 02:09:46] 4they built their forest on my racetrack [2017-04-09 02:09:46] it's time like these where I ponder [2017-04-09 02:09:56] 4anyways rainbow road n64 is added [2017-04-09 02:09:57] would I be the bad guy [2017-04-09 02:10:15] i need art of a genji ow wiggler for the horror of it [2017-04-09 02:10:32] 4how up to swapping sky garden and baby park is anyone [2017-04-09 02:10:42] 4I'm not exactly too enthuse about it and won't hold a vote unless someone really wants me to [2017-04-09 02:10:48] baby park is a good couse [2017-04-09 02:10:52] idk sky garden is worse imo [2017-04-09 02:10:52] course [2017-04-09 02:10:53] 6yeah [2017-04-09 02:10:58] i was throwing it out to see what peple thought [2017-04-09 02:11:00] 7i also like baby park [2017-04-09 02:11:00] 6i mean yeah to shoey [2017-04-09 02:11:04] i'm fine teither way [2017-04-09 02:11:05] it's the best they could do with the gba tbf [2017-04-09 02:11:05] why do people like baby park,,,,, [2017-04-09 02:11:07] 7idk if that matters thoguh [2017-04-09 02:11:07] yeah i like baby park [2017-04-09 02:11:17] 7what really matters is what the public thinks [2017-04-09 02:11:21] nyrie the chaos [2017-04-09 02:11:23] 4ok so are there any other changes to be made, barring the thing I'll make a topic for later [2017-04-09 02:11:27] 3I "like" baby park because its a unique experience [2017-04-09 02:11:32] so i'm in favor of any option that changes baby park [2017-04-09 02:11:35] 3total item mayhem [2017-04-09 02:11:39] not that i can think of [2017-04-09 02:11:40] how did it do last year [2017-04-09 02:11:49] yeah baby park is at least unique [2017-04-09 02:11:53] 617 writins [2017-04-09 02:11:55] 7i kind of wish it had more laps though [2017-04-09 02:11:56] if it had a high place then it's up for elimination [2017-04-09 02:11:58] 6*write-ins [2017-04-09 02:12:01] me too 22 [2017-04-09 02:12:02] 7even with 7, its still over in like [2017-04-09 02:12:06] just make it like [2017-04-09 02:12:07] 72 minutes [2017-04-09 02:12:08] o h b o t h e r [2017-04-09 02:12:10] 50 laps [2017-04-09 02:12:21] 22 its more like 1 minute [2017-04-09 02:12:25] 6that's like nascar level [2017-04-09 02:12:30] each lap is about 9 seconds [2017-04-09 02:12:33] 7i havent played mario kart in 10 years [2017-04-09 02:12:42] 4ok gonna move on then [2017-04-09 02:12:49] I still need to replay mk8 [2017-04-09 02:12:51] 4F9 Worst Direction of Series (Mario vs. Donkey Kong, Paper Mario, amiibo-centric/Focused Games, Mario Party, Mario Tennis, New Super Mario Bros., Mario 3D Games, WarioWare, Yoshi) [2017-04-09 02:13:00] and stop neglecting the wii u in general [2017-04-09 02:13:06] still mad warioware came 3rd [2017-04-09 02:13:14] is there anything else that nintendo drove into the shitter [2017-04-09 02:13:20] mario and luigi [2017-04-09 02:13:21] 6really how does ww come 3rd [2017-04-09 02:13:25] 4 7) New Super Mario Bros. — 169 — 6.83% 8) Yoshi — 51 — 2.06% 9) Mario 3D Games — 31 — 1.25% 10) O. CD-i Games — 17 — 0.69% 11) O. Edutainment Games — 10 — 0.40% 12) O. Mario & Sonic at the Olympics Franchise — 3 — 0.12% [2017-04-09 02:13:27] paper jam was pretty _ [2017-04-09 02:13:32] cdi games LOL [2017-04-09 02:13:38] lol [2017-04-09 02:13:40] what does mario 3d games mean [2017-04-09 02:13:46] 6yeah lb that's what i feel like every game in that series after superstar [2017-04-09 02:13:47] sm3dl and sm3dw [2017-04-09 02:13:48] I think we could get rid of yoshi with how well woolly world did [2017-04-09 02:13:53] 7were the mario edutainment games EVER good [2017-04-09 02:13:53] those games are good [2017-04-09 02:13:54] 4it's amazing how the 3D games all placed super low in Mario Awards, if not last in every single one with every nominee [2017-04-09 02:14:00] 4then places last in the Fail award [2017-04-09 02:14:10] a lot of people really like 3d world [2017-04-09 02:14:18] im not sure cdi or edutainment were ever good [2017-04-09 02:14:18] i know i do [2017-04-09 02:14:25] this might just be a skip honestly [2017-04-09 02:14:34] 4not enough to make them not literally all 3 last places in every award that had them nominated [2017-04-09 02:14:37] i dont know whether yoshi is worth removing but most people like woolly world so [2017-04-09 02:14:37] idk i kinda want to add m&l [2017-04-09 02:14:55] 4Yoshi and 3D Games have considerably lower amounts than NSMB [2017-04-09 02:14:56] why cause they had one mediocre game [2017-04-09 02:15:02] 4but I don't exactly think they should be removed [2017-04-09 02:15:08] like Paper Jam was alright from what i've heard [2017-04-09 02:15:11] 4there's no need to, there's <10 nominees [2017-04-09 02:15:17] the sky isn't falling [2017-04-09 02:15:18] what about dream team [2017-04-09 02:15:25] 12i havent played the last two m&l games so i can comment on them [2017-04-09 02:15:27] 12cant* [2017-04-09 02:15:27] paper jam is pretty divisive [2017-04-09 02:15:28] I heard that one was good [2017-04-09 02:15:42] 4Mario & Luigi did not get a single vote [2017-04-09 02:15:43] -->| Pack_Attack (chatzilla@fnn-056-146-538-49.trans-video.net) has joined #mwikiawards [2017-04-09 02:15:44] i played a bit of dream team and i got bored early on [2017-04-09 02:15:44] 7i would just skip this [2017-04-09 02:15:47] 12i dont think anything should be removed [2017-04-09 02:15:55] but that's just me tbf [2017-04-09 02:16:01] 3skip [2017-04-09 02:16:01] 4if literally anyone voted for them I would consider it but they didn't [2017-04-09 02:16:03] 4maybe next year [2017-04-09 02:16:04] 12i think id be in favor of skipping it [2017-04-09 02:16:20] i guess skip then [2017-04-09 02:16:21] i think skip [2017-04-09 02:16:25] skip [2017-04-09 02:16:26] 12given that m&l didnt get any writeins at all [2017-04-09 02:16:29] it's not like a major thing anyway [2017-04-09 02:16:30] skip [2017-04-09 02:16:34] 4F10 Worst Game Mechanic (Dimensional Flipping (SPM), Star Bits (SMG & SMG2), Camera (3D Games), Vibes (SPP), Joystick Twirling (MP), Limited Inventory (PM & PM:TTYD), Stickers (PM:SS), Button Mashing (MP), Gyroscope Controls (3DS Games), Vehicles (MP9 & MP10), Extra Life System) [2017-04-09 02:16:39] |<-- Packy has left irc.darkmyst.org:6697 (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Pack_Attack))) [2017-04-09 02:16:41] =-= Pack_Attack is now known as Packy [2017-04-09 02:16:47] 4 9) Dimensional Flipping (SPM) — 54 — 2.18% 10) Star Bits (SMG & SMG2) — 31 — 1.25% 11) Extra Life System — 21 — 0.85% 12) O. Motion Controls (SMG & SMG2) — 5 — 0.20% 13) O. Chance Minigames (Mario Party series) — 2 — 0.08% 13) O. Coin Item (SMK & MK8) — 2 — 0.08% 13) O. Level Timer — 2 — 0.08% [2017-04-09 02:16:51] 4write-ins are nothing, but [2017-04-09 02:17:08] did super mario run have any features that caused backlash [2017-04-09 02:17:08] did pmcs do anything stupid [2017-04-09 02:17:16] 4this is from last meeting [2017-04-09 02:17:16] 4[2017-03-31 18:38:25] 4the Autorunning part of it, if anything, would fall under Worst Game Mechanic [2017-03-31 18:38:29] 4so let's remember that for later [2017-04-09 02:17:17] 3I would add motion controls due to personal bias [2017-04-09 02:17:25] 4autorunning being from super mario run [2017-04-09 02:17:28] ^^^^ [2017-04-09 02:17:29] how well received was the colour mechanic in colour splash [2017-04-09 02:17:33] 7color splash repeated the sticker mechanic but now as "cards" [2017-04-09 02:17:36] i also share that personal bias [2017-04-09 02:17:43] I liked it personally [2017-04-09 02:17:48] 10but motion controls isnt always bad [2017-04-09 02:17:55] 10spinning in galaxy is super helpful [2017-04-09 02:17:56] could we combine it as stickers/cards? [2017-04-09 02:17:57] 7also it had a pretty shitty cutout mechanic, but that wasnt used so much that it became overwhelming [2017-04-09 02:18:00] 4but the autorunning isn't something I heard people complain about [2017-04-09 02:18:01] 10as well as nsmbw [2017-04-09 02:18:03] 4the $10 price tag was [2017-04-09 02:18:04] 7probably perch [2017-04-09 02:18:05] I'd be in favor of motion controls [2017-04-09 02:18:07] 3spinning could have been a button and it would have been better [2017-04-09 02:18:09] motion control is always bad because the technology isnt up to the task [2017-04-09 02:18:10] 7there's very little difference [2017-04-09 02:18:11] are they similar enough though perch [2017-04-09 02:18:16] i don't know [2017-04-09 02:18:16] stickers and cards [2017-04-09 02:18:19] 4and paying for a game isn't exactly something I'd consider a game mechanic or even bad [2017-04-09 02:18:22] that's why i'm asking someone who played it [2017-04-09 02:18:27] we should remember the 10$ price tag for missed opportunity [2017-04-09 02:18:32] shoey nyrie [2017-04-09 02:18:39] how similar are cards to stickers [2017-04-09 02:18:51] add "Having to spend money on games" [2017-04-09 02:18:52] cards are better [2017-04-09 02:18:55] I think? [2017-04-09 02:19:01] I never played sticker star [2017-04-09 02:19:04] i prefer the cards [2017-04-09 02:19:08] i played both [2017-04-09 02:19:12] but like mechanic wise [2017-04-09 02:19:20] they're pretty similar [2017-04-09 02:19:20] are they pretty much the same [2017-04-09 02:19:24] 7is there any difference beyond coloring the cards in [2017-04-09 02:19:29] nope [2017-04-09 02:19:30] anyway i have to go for a bit but if missed opportunity rolls around while im gone then id like to suggest no mystery mushrooms in smm3ds [2017-04-09 02:19:30] cant they be merged [2017-04-09 02:19:33] stickers/cards [2017-04-09 02:19:38] yeah what turb said [2017-04-09 02:19:41] pmss/pmcs [2017-04-09 02:19:43] they're basically the same [2017-04-09 02:20:00] ok i guess they could be merged then [2017-04-09 02:20:00] just a different name [2017-04-09 02:20:08] just wanted to confirm how similar they were [2017-04-09 02:20:15] 4so before I get to votes [2017-04-09 02:20:19] 4is there anything anyone wants removed [2017-04-09 02:20:21] if they're the sane [2017-04-09 02:20:28] why are cards better [2017-04-09 02:20:49] also @anton [2017-04-09 02:20:53] 7coloring mechanic adds a little strategy [2017-04-09 02:20:55] paint thing adds a little more strategy [2017-04-09 02:20:59] gyroscope stuffs [2017-04-09 02:21:03] 7i dont consider it a very big or significant change [2017-04-09 02:21:04] how relevant is that still [2017-04-09 02:21:08] 7but someone else might [2017-04-09 02:21:11] in certain battles it is [2017-04-09 02:21:12] did paper jam use it? [2017-04-09 02:21:21] paper jam did i think [2017-04-09 02:21:23] 4what's relevancy got to do with this, though [2017-04-09 02:21:28] for special attacks [2017-04-09 02:21:52] well ive seen old stuff getting removed in the past [2017-04-09 02:21:59] then again joystick is also on [2017-04-09 02:22:04] 4we also have Button Mashing from Mario Party 1 yeah [2017-04-09 02:22:06] so nvm [2017-04-09 02:22:07] in some battles you can only use certain colors to paint things so you have to plan around that [2017-04-09 02:22:11] 12i dont think anything needs to be removed [2017-04-09 02:22:13] 4I think this award is one that can permit old things, unlike others [2017-04-09 02:22:23] ^ [2017-04-09 02:22:33] yeah lol [2017-04-09 02:22:42] 4for ones to add, what were they [2017-04-09 02:22:44] 4*Motion Controls (SMG & SMG2) [2017-04-09 02:22:49] 4*Cards ?? [2017-04-09 02:22:50] 4*??? [2017-04-09 02:22:57] 3id say just motion controls period [2017-04-09 02:22:59] merge cards with stickers [2017-04-09 02:23:00] motion controls [2017-04-09 02:23:12] and change "Stickers" into "Stickers/Cards" [2017-04-09 02:23:13] also yeah just motion controls in general [2017-04-09 02:23:26] 3motion controls are a blight that permeates the entire wii era of games [2017-04-09 02:23:32] per nyrie [2017-04-09 02:23:33] they aren't different enough to warrant seperation [2017-04-09 02:23:39] 7yeah, smg was actually not the worst eaample of motion controls [2017-04-09 02:23:45] and motion controls isn't just a problem for smg [2017-04-09 02:23:46] 7nsmbw had a way worse mechanic [2017-04-09 02:23:47] 4should it be "Motion Controls (Wii games)" then? [2017-04-09 02:23:53] 3just motion controls [2017-04-09 02:23:55] 7wii u also i think [2017-04-09 02:24:01] wii u has shit motion controls too [2017-04-09 02:24:10] as does 3ds [2017-04-09 02:24:11] 12Stickers/Cards (PM:SS & PM:CS) ? [2017-04-09 02:24:19] i'd just leave it as "Motion Controls" [2017-04-09 02:24:19] 4I'm a little _ on making it a blanket thing for it but [2017-04-09 02:24:20] 63ds has motion controls? [2017-04-09 02:24:21] i think its fine ti just use motion controls as a blanket term [2017-04-09 02:24:26] 4if they're universally bad then lol [2017-04-09 02:24:27] 3nobody's going to accidentally think "Motion Controls (N64) [2017-04-09 02:24:29] 3" [2017-04-09 02:24:30] 7did you not know that df [2017-04-09 02:24:33] i dont know about the switch [2017-04-09 02:24:37] I'd say just put in motion controls with smg/2 [2017-04-09 02:24:41] 7switch has motion controls too [2017-04-09 02:24:42] but thats the only other nintendo thing i can think of with motion controls [2017-04-09 02:24:44] and the others are all bad [2017-04-09 02:24:46] isn't gyro constrols literally all of those things wii and u also have though [2017-04-09 02:24:46] i thought the 3ds just had a gyroscope [2017-04-09 02:24:50] 6i mean i knew there was a gyroscope but is that motion controls? [2017-04-09 02:24:58] 7yes df [2017-04-09 02:24:58] gyroscope is different isnt it [2017-04-09 02:25:01] I don't think there's that many other mario games on the wii that had bad motion controls [2017-04-09 02:25:01] i mean [2017-04-09 02:25:02] 7no [2017-04-09 02:25:03] in like [2017-04-09 02:25:04] 6oh ok [2017-04-09 02:25:08] 3super paper mario also had motion controls [2017-04-09 02:25:09] the sense of what edo is talking about [2017-04-09 02:25:09] why would that not count as motion controls [2017-04-09 02:25:12] or motion control at all [2017-04-09 02:25:18] you're moving the console to control the game [2017-04-09 02:25:24] not different in general [2017-04-09 02:25:26] i dont play many mario games with motion controls, so i'll sit out of this [2017-04-09 02:25:37] 73ds actually has the worst motion controls imo [2017-04-09 02:25:52] well [2017-04-09 02:25:53] examples? [2017-04-09 02:25:58] 4we could just rename Gyroscope to "Gyroscope/Motion Control" [2017-04-09 02:25:58] maybe do something like [2017-04-09 02:25:59] i thought he was talking specifically about wii motion controls even if the nominee would just be Motion Controls [2017-04-09 02:25:59] dream team boss battles [2017-04-09 02:26:01] 3the MM remake had the only instance of motion controls I ever liked [2017-04-09 02:26:01] yeah [2017-04-09 02:26:05] that could work anton [2017-04-09 02:26:06] like waht anton said [2017-04-09 02:26:06] oh [2017-04-09 02:26:07] 6per edo [2017-04-09 02:26:09] also per anton thats what i was thinking [2017-04-09 02:26:14] per anton [2017-04-09 02:26:16] 12i agree with anton [2017-04-09 02:26:23] 3gyroscope aiming for arrows was pretty neat [2017-04-09 02:26:31] i mentioned something like that earlier [2017-04-09 02:26:40] i liked the motion controls in splatoon [2017-04-09 02:26:52] it made aiming a lot more precise surprisingly [2017-04-09 02:27:15] 7yes, aiming is the only good use of motion controls [2017-04-09 02:27:23] 7or at least the only one i can think of [2017-04-09 02:27:24] same for arrows in botw [2017-04-09 02:27:28] getting a bit off topic here [2017-04-09 02:27:31] mini games [2017-04-09 02:27:43] driving is the worst use of motion controls [2017-04-09 02:27:46] 4Vote: Rename "Gyroscope Controls (3DS Games)" to "Gyroscope/Motion Controls"? (y/n/a) [2017-04-09 02:27:51] y [2017-04-09 02:27:54] 6y [2017-04-09 02:27:54] y [2017-04-09 02:27:54] 3y [2017-04-09 02:27:55] y [2017-04-09 02:27:55] y [2017-04-09 02:27:57] 12y [2017-04-09 02:27:58] 7y [2017-04-09 02:28:04] 128-0-0 [2017-04-09 02:28:09] wouldnt gyroscope fall under motion [2017-04-09 02:28:10] 12i think it fails [2017-04-09 02:28:21] 10y [2017-04-09 02:28:21] 3its just for clarification [2017-04-09 02:28:28] 129-0-0 [2017-04-09 02:28:29] 4yeah what edo said [2017-04-09 02:28:31] y [2017-04-09 02:28:33] k [2017-04-09 02:28:35] y [2017-04-09 02:28:36] yeah, so people cant vruet [2017-04-09 02:28:40] 1211-0-0 [2017-04-09 02:28:50] what is 'vruet'ing [2017-04-09 02:28:54] you forgot ltq's vote for k /s [2017-04-09 02:28:56] 3excuse me, I believe you mean so people can't crust [2017-04-09 02:28:58] 4lol [2017-04-09 02:29:00] lol [2017-04-09 02:29:10] y [2017-04-09 02:29:16] k [2017-04-09 02:29:19] 1212-0-0 [2017-04-09 02:29:21] 4what's this about cards, though [2017-04-09 02:29:31] merge them with stickers [2017-04-09 02:29:34] per [2017-04-09 02:29:41] according to nyrie and shoey they're basically the same [2017-04-09 02:29:43] ..what is 'crust'ing [2017-04-09 02:29:46] they are the same mechanic [2017-04-09 02:29:48] its a long story [2017-04-09 02:29:50] 4how would that be worded [2017-04-09 02:29:57] cards/stickers? [2017-04-09 02:29:59] something like that? [2017-04-09 02:30:04] Stickers/Cards (PM:SS/PM:CS) [2017-04-09 02:30:05] 4"Stickers (PM:SS)" is the current title [2017-04-09 02:30:07] Stickers/Cards (PM:SS/PM [2017-04-09 02:30:08] 4ok [2017-04-09 02:30:09] yeah [2017-04-09 02:30:11] turb [2017-04-09 02:30:14] per turb [2017-04-09 02:30:23] per turb [2017-04-09 02:30:33] 4Vote: Rename "Stickers (PM:SS)" to "Stickers/Cards (PM:SS/PM:CS)"? (y/n/a) [2017-04-09 02:30:34] perturbed [2017-04-09 02:30:36] y [2017-04-09 02:30:37] 3y [2017-04-09 02:30:38] 7y [2017-04-09 02:30:39] y [2017-04-09 02:30:39] y [2017-04-09 02:30:40] y [2017-04-09 02:30:43] 6but do the titles have to be writen out in full? [2017-04-09 02:30:52] y [2017-04-09 02:31:02] Y [2017-04-09 02:31:05] a [2017-04-09 02:31:17] 6y [2017-04-09 02:31:19] 4df do you mean the game titles? [2017-04-09 02:31:23] 6yeah [2017-04-09 02:31:25] y [2017-04-09 02:31:25] 9-0-1 [2017-04-09 02:31:28] y [2017-04-09 02:31:33] 4not unless they're the actual thing being nominated [2017-04-09 02:31:34] 11-0-1 [2017-04-09 02:31:46] 12y [2017-04-09 02:31:49] 6ok just making sure [2017-04-09 02:31:49] 1212-0-1 [2017-04-09 02:32:35] 4gr8 so i did that [2017-04-09 02:32:55] wow thats like 13/15 members voting good job team [2017-04-09 02:32:58] 4final thing from me for this one [2017-04-09 02:33:07] 4it would be 14 but I didn't vote [2017-04-09 02:33:12] 4I tend not to if the decision is clear [2017-04-09 02:33:25] 4which I guess is an "abstain" but it's also not [2017-04-09 02:33:31] 4but anyways final idea from me for this is [2017-04-09 02:33:37] 4"Chance Minigames (Mario Party series)" only got 2 votes, but [2017-04-09 02:33:48] oh we should add chance minigames [2017-04-09 02:33:51] 4it's also the thing that people overwhelmingly bitch about re: mario party minigames [2017-04-09 02:33:54] day at the races is bullshit [2017-04-09 02:33:55] 12actually should uh [2017-04-09 02:34:06] 3I support due to more personal bias [2017-04-09 02:34:07] I'm totally in favor of adding chance minigames [2017-04-09 02:34:09] 6it may get more votes if it's an actual nominee [2017-04-09 02:34:19] 12it be Stickers/Cards (PM:SS & PM:CS) since everything else is an & for consistency [2017-04-09 02:34:19] 6because people usually probably dont think of doing write-ins [2017-04-09 02:34:33] i wouldn't have anything against adding chance minigames [2017-04-09 02:34:36] 12i wouldn't oppose adding this [2017-04-09 02:34:41] 4the & to me implies part of a unified title, but [2017-04-09 02:34:43] isn't chance minigames noted somewhere already [2017-04-09 02:34:51] 4I'll take a look at it soon to see if there's a standard I should've followed [2017-04-09 02:34:52] i vuagly remember something liek that [2017-04-09 02:35:01] hmmm [2017-04-09 02:35:01] 4no [2017-04-09 02:35:02] (i cant spell tonight) [2017-04-09 02:35:11] 4we have an entire award for shitty minigames, but not a nominee within this one [2017-04-09 02:35:15] not entirely sure if chance minigames should be added; we've seen it bitched about a lot [2017-04-09 02:35:28] i suppose though we could add it for now [2017-04-09 02:35:28] that might be it [2017-04-09 02:35:30] Anton is day at the races on worst minigame [2017-04-09 02:35:33] and see how much traction it gain [2017-04-09 02:35:44] I think it's worth a nomination [2017-04-09 02:35:47] 4not as a formal nominee [2017-04-09 02:35:52] 4also [2017-04-09 02:36:03] 4even though I'm the one suggesting to add it, I also thing it's good to note that [2017-04-09 02:36:20] 4the dice in Mario Party are also complete chance [2017-04-09 02:36:39] 4the game itself doesn't provide much choice for the player to begin with [2017-04-09 02:36:49] 3I mean [2017-04-09 02:36:50] 7add mario party in its entirety [2017-04-09 02:37:01] 4think* [2017-04-09 02:37:02] 3you have SOME influence over your rolls with items [2017-04-09 02:37:10] yeah the common thing among all party games (inncluding mario party) is the randomness in dice [2017-04-09 02:37:16] 3or you can choose which paths to take [2017-04-09 02:37:22] I think it's different [2017-04-09 02:37:29] there's still skill and strategy [2017-04-09 02:37:33] 4also I'm just gonna put this vote up now because my phone is getting blasted with like I think 8 texts I've counted now and I need to see if someone's dying [2017-04-09 02:37:34] 4so [2017-04-09 02:37:56] 4Vote: Add "Chance Minigames (Mario Party series)" to F10? (y/n/a) [2017-04-09 02:37:57] 3y [2017-04-09 02:37:58] 4y [2017-04-09 02:37:59] 7y [2017-04-09 02:38:00] 6y [2017-04-09 02:38:00] 10y [2017-04-09 02:38:03] y [2017-04-09 02:38:06] a [2017-04-09 02:38:18] 3yyyyyya [2017-04-09 02:38:25] a [2017-04-09 02:38:43] y [2017-04-09 02:38:53] six yes-votes and an abstain in one message [2017-04-09 02:38:56] a new record [2017-04-09 02:39:02] y [2017-04-09 02:39:28] a [2017-04-09 02:39:32] 8-0-3 [2017-04-09 02:39:34] y [2017-04-09 02:39:35] y [2017-04-09 02:39:40] 10-0-3 [2017-04-09 02:40:06] 4no one's dying [2017-04-09 02:40:10] 4anyways i'll add it now [2017-04-09 02:40:36] 4anything else for this award? [2017-04-09 02:40:45] not that i can think of [2017-04-09 02:40:45] 12y [2017-04-09 02:41:02] add 'button controls' [2017-04-09 02:41:08] (continue) [2017-04-09 02:41:39] add video games [2017-04-09 02:41:43] 4F11 Biggest Missed Opportunity (Super Mario Advance 4, Super Mario Bros. 3 e-Cards, Sony Partnership Failure, Properly Representing Trans Issues, Underproducing amiibo, Super Mario Spikers Cancellation, Mario Takes America Cancellation, Donkey Kong Coconut Crackers Cancellation, Failure of the Mario Artist Series, Mario & Wario not being localized, [2017-04-09 02:41:43] but no just move on [2017-04-09 02:41:44] add jumping [2017-04-09 02:41:45] 4Wrecking Crew '98 not being localized, Paper Mario: Sticker Star Early Build, Donkey Kong Racing Cancellation, Super Mario's Wacky Worlds Cancellation) [2017-04-09 02:41:52] 4I'll post results in a second [2017-04-09 02:41:53] 4but [2017-04-09 02:42:00] what did they fuck up on this year [2017-04-09 02:42:01] this is the award where i have an aneurysm over wording every year [2017-04-09 02:42:07] fangames [2017-04-09 02:42:08] 4last year we tried to make these nominees clear but for some reason I still feel they're a bit off [2017-04-09 02:42:12] 4idk if I'm just hallucinating [2017-04-09 02:42:16] 7hey guys [2017-04-09 02:42:23] idk if many of them were mario fangames though [2017-04-09 02:42:25] 4but I think we should take a super extra good look at it [2017-04-09 02:42:35] 7lets rephrase the trans nominee like 15 more times [2017-04-09 02:42:35] super extra [2017-04-09 02:42:40] thats dense [2017-04-09 02:42:42] but i know nintendo has been super anal about fangames [2017-04-09 02:42:43] 4 13) Wrecking Crew '98 not being localized — 31 — 1.26% 14) Donkey Kong Coconut Crackers Cancellation — 17 — 0.69% 15) O. Super Mario 64 2 — 8 — 0.33% 16) O. N64DD — 4 — 0.16% 16) O. Super Mario Galaxy 3 — 4 — 0.16% [2017-04-09 02:43:05] What if we changed coconut crackers to Donkey Kong Racing [2017-04-09 02:43:07] SMG3 is a thing [2017-04-09 02:43:08] no course sharing in smm3ds is one id like to see added but first lets review whats there [2017-04-09 02:43:08] ? [2017-04-09 02:43:13] 6no [2017-04-09 02:43:26] 4welcome back [2017-04-09 02:43:40] i WANT TO 22 [2017-04-09 02:43:41] 6that's a good idea gbatoad cause i was Genuinely Upset at that [2017-04-09 02:43:45] but i know i cant [2017-04-09 02:43:59] theres nothing wrong with it [2017-04-09 02:44:00] 4yeah as I'm reading this there's a few opposite tenses or whatever the word is [2017-04-09 02:44:04] would underproducing amiibo be worth removing considering a lot of amiibo are (seemingly, anyway) kind of common nowadays? [2017-04-09 02:44:07] im just having an aneurysm over wordings [2017-04-09 02:44:11] 4at least [2017-04-09 02:44:22] 12spend the rest of the meetings rephrasing the trans nominee [2017-04-09 02:44:24] we should start by making the tense consistent [2017-04-09 02:44:25] 4"Underproducing amiibo" sounds like it should be negated [2017-04-09 02:44:35] per gba [2017-04-09 02:44:38] 4and the rest seem fine I think [2017-04-09 02:44:58] 4because the nominees are supposed to be Failed Opportunities [2017-04-09 02:45:13] most of the amiibo that had a rarity problem weren't mario amiibo [2017-04-09 02:45:33] 4time to google synonyms a word for the opposite of underproducing that doesn't sound like shit [2017-04-09 02:45:44] 4antonyms i mean [2017-04-09 02:45:45] 12Super Mario Advance 4, Super Mario Bros. 3 e-Cards > Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3 e-Cards or something [2017-04-09 02:46:00] 12right now it looks like two separate nominees [2017-04-09 02:46:06] 7e-cards might be legitimately one to remove [2017-04-09 02:46:14] 12o [2017-04-09 02:46:22] 7since the wii u version included the bulk of the e-card content in every region [2017-04-09 02:46:26] 7i'm not sure though [2017-04-09 02:46:28] Actually yeah because the virtual console releases include them now gdi 22 [2017-04-09 02:46:29] it did [2017-04-09 02:46:31] sniped [2017-04-09 02:46:33] 12good point [2017-04-09 02:46:49] 6gbatoad got dragoninja'd [2017-04-09 02:46:56] 4 20:45 meowth Super Mario Advance 4, Super Mario Bros. 3 e-Cards > Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3 e-Cards or something 20:46 meowth right now it looks like two separate nominees [2017-04-09 02:47:01] 4I have no fucking clue what those are, but [2017-04-09 02:47:08] oh wow, second card discussion this hour [2017-04-09 02:47:11] 4if they were supposed to be one nominee we totally didn't do that [2017-04-09 02:47:17] Id say remove them since theyre irrelevant now [2017-04-09 02:47:33] remove it yeah [2017-04-09 02:47:38] 4what's "it" [2017-04-09 02:47:39] 12sma4 the missed opportunity [2017-04-09 02:47:41] it's not very applicable anymore [2017-04-09 02:47:43] 4are they supposed to be one nominee [2017-04-09 02:47:43] per gba, I'll be damned if anyone used those [2017-04-09 02:47:43] yeah [2017-04-09 02:47:55] 12super mario advance 4: super mario bros. 3 [2017-04-09 02:48:01] 12: [2017-04-09 02:48:14] 7yeah the comma is probably a typo [2017-04-09 02:48:16] 12but i think were probably killing the whole thing off so lol [2017-04-09 02:48:19] 4we totally had them as 2 separate nominees last year [2017-04-09 02:48:21] 7the thing smasher just said is the title of a game [2017-04-09 02:48:22] 4and it wasn't caught [2017-04-09 02:48:36] 7the e-cards are a feature that was poorly implemented in that game [2017-04-09 02:48:41] 4 6) Super Mario Bros. 3 e-Cards — 117 — 4.77% [2017-04-09 02:48:44] 4 11) Super Mario Advance 4 — 59 — 2.41% [2017-04-09 02:48:47] 12Oops [2017-04-09 02:48:53] 7thats kind of funny though [2017-04-09 02:48:55] welp [2017-04-09 02:48:56] lol [2017-04-09 02:49:03] honestly thats hilarious [2017-04-09 02:49:09] super mario advance 4 was a mistake [2017-04-09 02:49:17] 759 people thought super mario advance 4 in itself was a missed opportunity [2017-04-09 02:49:18] Did the person who presented them catch on [2017-04-09 02:49:20] 4this is an example of why we have the AC do this every year instead of just once and calling it complete [2017-04-09 02:49:35] oooooops [2017-04-09 02:49:41] lemme see [2017-04-09 02:49:42] 4but yeah [2017-04-09 02:49:48] oh my god [2017-04-09 02:50:02] 4Vote: Remove "[whatever the title should be]" from F11? (y/n/a) [2017-04-09 02:50:03] im really glda that 59 people thought sma4 was that shit [2017-04-09 02:50:10] y [2017-04-09 02:50:11] y [2017-04-09 02:50:12] 7y [2017-04-09 02:50:12] y [2017-04-09 02:50:13] 6y [2017-04-09 02:50:17] y [2017-04-09 02:50:17] y [2017-04-09 02:50:18] 3y [2017-04-09 02:50:24] y [2017-04-09 02:50:53] 4gr8 [2017-04-09 02:50:57] F11 was presented by Chibiki Daisy and she only covered the top 3 in it [2017-04-09 02:51:04] y [2017-04-09 02:51:06] oh rip [2017-04-09 02:51:27] still wouldve been funny had they made a whole paragraph dedicated to the failings of sma4 [2017-04-09 02:51:27] Source: https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=37421.msg1867520#msg1867520 [2017-04-09 02:51:28] how dare she [2017-04-09 02:51:33] 4next up then [2017-04-09 02:51:36] 4before we get to: [2017-04-09 02:51:37] 4 20:44 Packy would underproducing amiibo be worth removing considering a lot of amiibo are (seemingly, anyway) kind of common nowadays? [2017-04-09 02:52:12] 4I think the tense of "Underproducing amiibo" should be renamed into "Producing an adequate amount of amiibo" [2017-04-09 02:52:18] 4it's wordier but this is a wordy award [2017-04-09 02:52:35] I think that would be fair, yeah [2017-04-09 02:52:39] im ok with the change [2017-04-09 02:52:44] sure [2017-04-09 02:52:51] 7if wordiness is a concern couldnt we just say "adequate amiibo production" [2017-04-09 02:52:59] Some amiibo have become easier to find but there are still rare ones that fall in that category [2017-04-09 02:53:02] 4time to decide if we should delete it so no one sees the change [2017-04-09 02:53:06] i like 22's [2017-04-09 02:53:29] 4Vote: Remove "[amiibo thing]" from F11? (y/n/a) [2017-04-09 02:53:36] y [2017-04-09 02:53:38] y [2017-04-09 02:53:43] 4I'm saying y because some collectibles being more rare than others is like [2017-04-09 02:53:45] 4the point [2017-04-09 02:53:48] 6y [2017-04-09 02:53:49] y [2017-04-09 02:53:52] 3a [2017-04-09 02:53:53] 7a [2017-04-09 02:54:12] 5-0-2 [2017-04-09 02:54:12] 4and if it's true that enough time has passed to make this a non-issue then _ [2017-04-09 02:54:13] a [2017-04-09 02:54:15] 4i'm trusting packy on this [2017-04-09 02:54:15] 3actually hold on [2017-04-09 02:54:17] oh wait [2017-04-09 02:54:30] 10y [2017-04-09 02:54:30] n [2017-04-09 02:54:31] i won't let you down, master @_@ [2017-04-09 02:54:38] 5-1-3 [2017-04-09 02:54:44] i counted packy at first [2017-04-09 02:54:51] 3change to n [2017-04-09 02:54:59] a [2017-04-09 02:55:00] its still an issue to find most amiibo in aus but thats because its australia [2017-04-09 02:55:08] 12a [2017-04-09 02:55:11] yeah like idk what's it like in other countries [2017-04-09 02:55:15] 3regardless of whether collectible rarity is a thing [2017-04-09 02:55:24] 3it still managed to place in the top 3 [2017-04-09 02:55:30] 3people are clearly pissed off about this [2017-04-09 02:55:31] n [2017-04-09 02:55:42] per edo as well [2017-04-09 02:55:51] just because it's not as much of a problem doesn't mean it wasn't a problem [2017-04-09 02:56:21] 4what's the vote at currently [2017-04-09 02:56:26] 4-2-4 [2017-04-09 02:56:28] oh wait [2017-04-09 02:56:31] 4-3-5 [2017-04-09 02:56:41] 4-3-4 [2017-04-09 02:56:52] 12i counted various thing hold on [2017-04-09 02:56:56] no wait perch is right [2017-04-09 02:56:57] 7wow,im so confused [2017-04-09 02:57:01] 7please smasher [2017-04-09 02:57:03] 7save us [2017-04-09 02:57:07] retally? [2017-04-09 02:57:09] 7youre the only one who knows how to count [2017-04-09 02:57:13] 4I'd say that's too close to call and if anything my y might change to an a, so [2017-04-09 02:57:16] 4it's staying [2017-04-09 02:57:23] 7just like javelin is the only one who knows how to divide by 8 [2017-04-09 02:57:24] 4after being renamed to "Adequate amiibo production" [2017-04-09 02:57:40] 125.5-3-4 [2017-04-09 02:57:45] 12I THINK? [2017-04-09 02:57:45] Vote no smasher and also join mafia [2017-04-09 02:58:01] wow not even smasher knows [2017-04-09 02:58:03] we're doomed [2017-04-09 02:58:09] 12i'm actually switching to n after edo's point 5.5-4-3 [2017-04-09 02:58:12] 4what other tenses should be changed [2017-04-09 02:58:13] q [2017-04-09 02:58:14] 7how is there a .5 vote [2017-04-09 02:58:16] 4i'm thinking like all of them [2017-04-09 02:58:19] I vote y [2017-04-09 02:58:23] 4and I'm going nuts reading it so someone validate me [2017-04-09 02:58:33] 7when you say tense [2017-04-09 02:58:36] 12i gave packy a half vote because thats what weve done in the past [2017-04-09 02:58:43] 4negative/positive whatever [2017-04-09 02:58:46] 7you mean the positive or negative phrasing? [2017-04-09 02:59:02] 12idk if we were still doing it because this is the first time a non-ac member has voted on anything [2017-04-09 02:59:03] 7i feel like its best so we have it so that [2017-04-09 02:59:16] 12so i just threw him on there [2017-04-09 02:59:17] 7all the nominees are either the undesirable reality [2017-04-09 02:59:24] smasher did you get my last second vote [2017-04-09 02:59:30] 126.5-4-3 [2017-04-09 02:59:35] 7"inadequant amiibo production, misrepresentation of trans issues" [2017-04-09 02:59:42] 7or the desired unreality [2017-04-09 02:59:46] 4ok [2017-04-09 02:59:52] 12ive reread this several times this is probably right [2017-04-09 02:59:58] 7"adequate amiibo production, proper representation of trans issues" [2017-04-09 03:00:01] 7dos that make sense [2017-04-09 03:00:05] 4I'll make a quick thread out of it later [2017-04-09 03:00:10] what even is the trans issue [2017-04-09 03:00:13] 4so we don't spend the rest of the meeting deciding those here [2017-04-09 03:00:13] "Adequate Production of Trans Issues" [2017-04-09 03:00:18] lol [2017-04-09 03:00:20] lol [2017-04-09 03:00:25] vivian and birdo's gender identity being mishandled [2017-04-09 03:00:30] 7calling birdo a confused man in the manual of smb32 [2017-04-09 03:01:00] isn't birdo still officially trans [2017-04-09 03:01:18] 4is there anything to add or remove from this award [2017-04-09 03:01:20] they havent said she isnt [2017-04-09 03:01:22] 7birdo was never "officially" trans in the sense of being described as trans by nintendo [2017-04-09 03:01:23] 5:42 PM <@Lord_Bowser> fangames [2017-04-09 03:01:23] 5:42 PM <@Lord_Bowser> idk if many of them were mario fangames though [2017-04-09 03:01:23] 5:42 PM <@Lord_Bowser> but i know nintendo has been super anal about fangames [2017-04-09 03:01:40] i only remember am2r and that pokemon one [2017-04-09 03:01:42] There were 32 mario bros [2017-04-09 03:01:50] 12yeah gba [2017-04-09 03:02:03] 7at one point she was described by nintendo as "a man who thinks he's a woman " or something liek that [2017-04-09 03:02:04] Also my connection is spotty atm [2017-04-09 03:02:14] I don't really know how this could be a missed opportunity [2017-04-09 03:02:15] 12idk about the fangam thing [2017-04-09 03:02:21] the fangames [2017-04-09 03:02:29] not the trans issue I mean [2017-04-09 03:02:31] will be back in like 10 mins but im still for no course sharing in smm3ds [2017-04-09 03:02:32] 12im not sure if i could see that as a missed opportunity [2017-04-09 03:02:32] 7since then they've mostly tried to avoid bringing up birdo's gender at all, at least in the west [2017-04-09 03:02:48] 12no course sharing might be one i forgot about that [2017-04-09 03:02:55] 7they definitely still bring it up in japan though [2017-04-09 03:02:58] -->| Gamefreak75 (NewYokuba@ram-60-96-440-89.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #mwikiawards [2017-04-09 03:03:06] 7an unlocalised game had a whole plotline about proving birdo was a woman [2017-04-09 03:03:07] well then 22 they're doing a great job on the issue they only ever call her her preferred pronoun :P [2017-04-09 03:03:08] avoiding that might be the problem its in the award for [2017-04-09 03:03:16] 6although in sticker star, birdo says "heart of a woman, heart of a man" which i don't even know what that means [2017-04-09 03:03:20] 4I could see how not allowing a fangame to exist would hurt the company image, and subsequently customer loyalty and profit [2017-04-09 03:03:24] CAPTAIN RAINBOW [2017-04-09 03:03:29] 7thats super oblique [2017-04-09 03:03:33] yeah per anton [2017-04-09 03:03:38] 6captain rainbow is great [2017-04-09 03:03:46] 10i would be in favor of that [2017-04-09 03:03:50] 7you would definitely have to already know about birdo's history to take it to be even related to trans issues [2017-04-09 03:03:52] 10but was there a mario fangame recently takken down [2017-04-09 03:03:58] 6yeah [2017-04-09 03:04:00] 4was there any major mario fangame that was deleted though [2017-04-09 03:04:01] 6several actually [2017-04-09 03:04:04] 12i want to play captain rainbow [2017-04-09 03:04:07] 7uhhh [2017-04-09 03:04:08] there's this [2017-04-09 03:04:08] https://gamingreinvented.com/nintendoarticles/top-ten-nintendo-fanworks-cancelled-due-legal-complaints/ [2017-04-09 03:04:09] 7smbx was [2017-04-09 03:04:15] 7that was a long time ago though [2017-04-09 03:04:19] smbx was a while ago [2017-04-09 03:04:26] 6in the past 6 months there was no mario's sky and like a fanmade super mario maker [2017-04-09 03:05:00] with no mario's sky it makes sense [2017-04-09 03:05:03] 6those are the two i know of at least [2017-04-09 03:05:13] why would nintendo associate with no man's buy [2017-04-09 03:05:15] 4that's enough for me to consider it a valid concern so [2017-04-09 03:05:44] 4Vote: Add "[fangame nominee, name tbd because positive/negative phrasing]" to F11? (y/n/a) [2017-04-09 03:05:45] name it "Fangame takedowns" maybe? [2017-04-09 03:05:49] y [2017-04-09 03:05:53] n [2017-04-09 03:05:54] 7a [2017-04-09 03:05:54] 6y [2017-04-09 03:05:59] n [2017-04-09 03:06:00] y [2017-04-09 03:06:03] a [2017-04-09 03:06:05] y [2017-04-09 03:06:08] 3y [2017-04-09 03:06:11] a [2017-04-09 03:06:23] 4y [2017-04-09 03:06:25] a [2017-04-09 03:06:40] 6-2-4 [2017-04-09 03:06:45] 3I'm willing to give it a shot to see how it performs [2017-04-09 03:07:18] 4i've added it [2017-04-09 03:07:25] 4anything else for F11? [2017-04-09 03:07:45] not that i can think of [2017-04-09 03:07:52] nope [2017-04-09 03:07:54] "No online course sharing in Super Mario Maker 3DS" or soemthing [2017-04-09 03:08:03] Unless people dont care [2017-04-09 03:08:18] 6i cared [2017-04-09 03:08:25] 6because i was going to buy it until i learned that [2017-04-09 03:08:29] 6but idk how many other people cared [2017-04-09 03:08:33] people caring isn't an issue if mario vs wario is a nominee [2017-04-09 03:08:52] 4oh yeah you also said "no mystery mushrooms in smm3ds" [2017-04-09 03:08:58] it was /the/ thing that made the wii u version good [2017-04-09 03:09:03] right [2017-04-09 03:09:04] 7im sure people cared [2017-04-09 03:09:05] how about just [2017-04-09 03:09:06] -->| MK (AndChat200@meta.ridley) has joined #mwikiawards [2017-04-09 03:09:07] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o MK by ChanServ [2017-04-09 03:09:11] nah thats a minor thing compared to the bigger issue [2017-04-09 03:09:17] 7it basically fucked the game [2017-04-09 03:09:18] Hi I'm on mobile [2017-04-09 03:09:19] general lack of key features in smm3ds [2017-04-09 03:09:29] hi mk [2017-04-09 03:09:34] 7like honestly what can you even do with smm3ds [2017-04-09 03:09:43] 7-play your own levels [2017-04-09 03:09:47] you can only share via streetpass [2017-04-09 03:09:48] -cry [2017-04-09 03:09:48] 6make your own levels and nintendo's levels and that's it [2017-04-09 03:09:49] 7-pray you live near someone who can make good levels [2017-04-09 03:09:51] but it just sounds like a criticism of the game rather than a missed opportunity [2017-04-09 03:10:01] but isnt that what some of these are [2017-04-09 03:10:03] 7-buy the wii u version [2017-04-09 03:10:09] 3it fits in thematically with the other nominees [2017-04-09 03:10:15] true [2017-04-09 03:10:16] add streetpass to f10 [2017-04-09 03:10:17] 4we could theoretically slap the entire game up there, yeah [2017-04-09 03:10:17] 6-realize you can't afford a wii u so you cry [2017-04-09 03:10:22] 4and also include it in F15 [2017-04-09 03:10:25] (or dont idc) [2017-04-09 03:10:34] 3realize you dont want a wii u in your house [2017-04-09 03:10:36] And include in f15 [2017-04-09 03:10:39] gdi anton [2017-04-09 03:10:48] too fast [2017-04-09 03:11:07] that gives me an idea [2017-04-09 03:11:15] 6i'll take your wii u if you want to donated it to the DFoundation [2017-04-09 03:11:28] would "lack of support for the wii u" be a nominee [2017-04-09 03:11:29] > DFoundation [2017-04-09 03:11:33] -->| Mobile_Knight (AndChat200@2607:fb90:8242:pnrg:jiot:mznp:nnzj:pjh) has joined #mwikiawards [2017-04-09 03:11:34] |<-- Mobile_Knight has left irc.darkmyst.org:6697 (Excess Flood) [2017-04-09 03:11:37] how do you even pronounce that [2017-04-09 03:11:39] i think it might just be better to put SMM3DS as its own F15 nominee [2017-04-09 03:11:45] -->| Mobile_Knight (AndChat200@2607:fb90:8242:pnrg:jiot:mznp:nnzj:pjh) has joined #mwikiawards [2017-04-09 03:11:46] |<-- Mobile_Knight has left 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somethign [2017-04-09 03:12:33] 4i think it stopped [2017-04-09 03:12:35] 4but if not then yeah [2017-04-09 03:12:38] oh i was going to make a joke [2017-04-09 03:12:39] 7ok [2017-04-09 03:12:41] but i had to get up [2017-04-09 03:12:58] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o Gamefreak75 by ChanServ [2017-04-09 03:12:58] 7we should add "not making metroid prime 4 instead of donkey kong cold" to annoy borp [2017-04-09 03:13:10] 4before we can vote on smm3ds though we need to settle on what aspect of it we want nominated [2017-04-09 03:13:21] "if 59 people can consider sma4 a mistake when we accidentally put it on there people will probably consider smm3ds a mistake all on its own when we intentionally put it on there" [2017-04-09 03:13:28] maybe that wasnt a very funny joke though [2017-04-09 03:13:35] i laughed [2017-04-09 03:13:37] 4the complaint seems to be more that it's a diluted version of the wii u game [2017-04-09 03:13:40] thanks [2017-04-09 03:13:41] 7i mean its true but [2017-04-09 03:13:43] yw [2017-04-09 03:14:02] 7im really feeling like when the whole game is a mistake it should just be on 15 [2017-04-09 03:14:02] 4it being worded in that manner could set it apart from being a redundancy with F15, at least in title [2017-04-09 03:14:17] 4but that's also twisting things just to get it on [2017-04-09 03:14:26] -->| Mobile_Knight (AndChat200@2607:fb90:8242:pnrg:jiot:mznp:nnzj:pjh) has joined #mwikiawards [2017-04-09 03:14:26] |<-- Mobile_Knight has left irc.darkmyst.org:6697 (Excess Flood) [2017-04-09 03:14:27] 4which I'm not exactly feeling for if we can just do F15 yeah [2017-04-09 03:14:30] 3cant we just go with the original suggestion [2017-04-09 03:14:34] 3of no level sharing [2017-04-09 03:14:44] 4yeah, since that's the major killer of it [2017-04-09 03:14:48] 3that's specific enough [2017-04-09 03:14:52] yeah just go ith no level sharing [2017-04-09 03:14:55] yeah per edo [2017-04-09 03:14:56] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +b Mobile_Knight!*@* by shoutmon [2017-04-09 03:14:57] 12yeah can we just do that [2017-04-09 03:14:58] then slap it on f15 too [2017-04-09 03:15:04] no need to muddy it up too much [2017-04-09 03:15:12] 7just the name so he can still get in on his computer [2017-04-09 03:15:31] |<-- MK has left irc.darkmyst.org:6697 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [2017-04-09 03:15:39] 4Vote: Add "[lack of online level sharing in smm3ds, name tbd]" to F11? (y/n/a) [2017-04-09 03:15:44] y [2017-04-09 03:15:46] 7a [2017-04-09 03:15:49] y [2017-04-09 03:15:50] y [2017-04-09 03:15:52] 12y [2017-04-09 03:15:53] 3y [2017-04-09 03:15:54] 6y [2017-04-09 03:15:55] Y [2017-04-09 03:15:55] y [2017-04-09 03:15:56] y [2017-04-09 03:16:06] 129-0-1 [2017-04-09 03:16:23] it failed i think [2017-04-09 03:16:30] y [2017-04-09 03:16:36] (wow that joke is old) [2017-04-09 03:16:36] 4wii did it [2017-04-09 03:16:37] 4next up [2017-04-09 03:16:38] Yayyyyyyyyy [2017-04-09 03:16:39] 12is that it weve been on this award a long time [2017-04-09 03:16:42] 1210-0-1 [2017-04-09 03:16:52] yeah we need to move on [2017-04-09 03:16:59] let it go [2017-04-09 03:17:00] move on [2017-04-09 03:17:02] and move on [2017-04-09 03:17:04] 4F12 Worst Game Objective (Boshi Race (SMRPG), Yoshi Eggs (SMA), Blue Coins (SMS), Rabbits (SM64DS), Flopside Pit of 100 Trials (SPM), Piccolo (SPM), Duel of 100 (SPM), World 9 (NSMBW), Letters (PM), One Million Coins (NSMB2), Green Stars (SMG2), Completing Every Level with Every Character (SM3DW), Star/Moon Coin Challenges (MG:WT), [2017-04-09 03:17:07] 4Chasing General White (PM:TTYD)) [2017-04-09 03:17:14] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DmUbXWeBaE [2017-04-09 03:17:18] 6anything bad from color splash? [2017-04-09 03:17:20] korok seeds [2017-04-09 03:17:20] dammit i was like 30 seconds too slow [2017-04-09 03:17:22] anything shitty in color splash [2017-04-09 03:17:25] 4 12) Star/Moon Coin Challenges (MG:WT) — 44 — 1.82% 13) Yoshi Eggs (SMA) — 43 — 1.78% 14) Letters (PM) — 31 — 1.28% 15) O. Toad missions (M&L:PJ) — 4 — 0.17% 16) O. Rescuing Peach — 3 — 0.12% [2017-04-09 03:17:27] color splash seems the big one [2017-04-09 03:17:33] 4unless something's new I think we can keep it [2017-04-09 03:17:35] what about run [2017-04-09 03:17:38] 7speaking of mario maker [2017-04-09 03:17:44] like [2017-04-09 03:17:44] 7do people hate super expert mode [2017-04-09 03:17:48] yes [2017-04-09 03:17:49] 6yes [2017-04-09 03:17:49] yes [2017-04-09 03:17:50] i do [2017-04-09 03:17:50] Yes [2017-04-09 03:17:50] were those toads annoying [2017-04-09 03:18:33] 12nothing to remove and no writeins so whatever new things [2017-04-09 03:18:39] 3personally I'd like to put "Rescuing Peach" on there just to see how many people agree, lol [2017-04-09 03:18:45] same lol [2017-04-09 03:18:48] does se-mode imply only levels with 0,0001% completion [2017-04-09 03:18:58] yeah super low % [2017-04-09 03:19:07] 7"hurting poor sweet innocent cute bowser ;~;" [2017-04-09 03:19:15] ^^^^^ [2017-04-09 03:19:21] 4I'm taking director discretion and adding 22's suggestion [2017-04-09 03:19:23] i know i hate super expert [2017-04-09 03:19:33] *posts mario as bowser gif* [2017-04-09 03:19:45] should play New Super Bowser Bros. Wii [2017-04-09 03:20:04] im ok with adding super expert as well [2017-04-09 03:20:09] because like [2017-04-09 03:20:17] 12super expert seems fine [2017-04-09 03:20:19] u cant unlock all the costumes in the game without clearing it [2017-04-09 03:20:32] 12thats horrific [2017-04-09 03:20:35] is it required for "100%" for as far as that works in that game [2017-04-09 03:20:38] 7we should have an award for all our great nominees like that and smasher's dialup kong [2017-04-09 03:20:39] rip [2017-04-09 03:20:44] yes basically [2017-04-09 03:20:46] yeah ltq [2017-04-09 03:20:53] ai [2017-04-09 03:21:00] [Sun 03:20:38] shoutmon we should have an award for all our great nominees like that and smasher's dialup kong [2017-04-09 03:21:09] 4Vote: Add "Super Expert Mode (SMR)" to F12? (y/n/a) [2017-04-09 03:21:09] C16 best writeins [2017-04-09 03:21:13] y [2017-04-09 03:21:14] 7y [2017-04-09 03:21:19] 7not smr though [2017-04-09 03:21:20] y [2017-04-09 03:21:21] 7smm [2017-04-09 03:21:22] a [2017-04-09 03:21:23] (SMM)* [2017-04-09 03:21:24] y [2017-04-09 03:21:25] guys [2017-04-09 03:21:31] i found the u2/u3 merger replacement [2017-04-09 03:21:31] y [2017-04-09 03:21:35] 3y [2017-04-09 03:21:36] Favorite Joke Nominee [2017-04-09 03:21:38] y [2017-04-09 03:21:42] 6y [2017-04-09 03:21:45] y [2017-04-09 03:21:46] y [2017-04-09 03:21:52] yynotsmrthoughysmma(smm)*yguysyyyyy [2017-04-09 03:21:53] y [2017-04-09 03:21:57] 4oh i must've misread but ok yeah that [2017-04-09 03:22:01] Waluigi's Taco Stand Turbo Hd Remix [2017-04-09 03:22:30] Turb & Smasher [2017-04-09 03:23:00] 4any other nominees to add [2017-04-09 03:23:04] 4or remove [2017-04-09 03:23:07] nop [2017-04-09 03:23:15] 12y to super expert mode [2017-04-09 03:23:16] korok seeds /s [2017-04-09 03:23:20] 7we need freakworld hes the only one who actually played smr [2017-04-09 03:23:23] 1212-0-1 [2017-04-09 03:23:28] ya ha ha [2017-04-09 03:23:42] i played it [2017-04-09 03:23:46] i have 56 korok seeds [2017-04-09 03:24:10] you need bad things about smr right [2017-04-09 03:24:20] maybe the purple and black coins [2017-04-09 03:24:41] but i dont know what you get from getting all of those yet [2017-04-09 03:24:43] 4we don't need it because we're at 15 nominees [2017-04-09 03:24:47] 4unless they're actually really bad [2017-04-09 03:24:58] not that bad no [2017-04-09 03:24:59] i dont know what purple and black coins even are [2017-04-09 03:24:59] 6from what i played of the first 3 levels [2017-04-09 03:25:01] there wasnt anything that bad about smr,,,,,,,,, [2017-04-09 03:25:03] 6they're just really tricky [2017-04-09 03:25:14] i bought the entire game [2017-04-09 03:25:16] 6not really bad [2017-04-09 03:25:17] (fight me) [2017-04-09 03:25:18] it was just mediocre [2017-04-09 03:25:20] 4gonna move on then [2017-04-09 03:25:24] they get trickier [2017-04-09 03:25:24] 4F13 Worst Mario Party Minigame (Tug o' War, Bash 'n' Cash, Flip the Chimp, Crane Game, Day at the Races, BOWSER's Big Blast, M.P.I.Q., The Beat Goes On, Game Guy Room, Pipe Maze, Right Oar Left?, Hot Rope Jump, Cheep Cheep Chance, Piranha’s Pursuit, Skateboard Scamper, Cast Aways, Bob-omb Combo, Cheep Cheep Check) [2017-04-09 03:25:37] did anyone play mp10 [2017-04-09 03:25:40] i like how BOWSER is all caps [2017-04-09 03:25:40] i did [2017-04-09 03:25:41] 4 16) Piranha’s Pursuit — 40 — 1.97% 17) Cast Aways — 38 — 1.87% 18) Bash 'n' Cash — 37 — 1.82% 19) O. Bumper Balls — 8 — 0.39% 20) O. Cut from the Team — 7 — 0.34% 20) O. Pedal Power — 7 — 0.34% 20) O. Vicious Vending — 7 — 0.34% 23) O. Cointagious — 5 — 0.25% [2017-04-09 03:25:43] did anyone like mp10 [2017-04-09 03:25:51] i dont know [2017-04-09 03:25:51] 4there's 18 nominees now so we absolutely have to remove something to add anything [2017-04-09 03:25:52] i know i didnt play mp10 [2017-04-09 03:25:53] 7(pink, purple, and black coins are basically like the dragon coins from super mario world) [2017-04-09 03:26:04] why do we have more than one luck minigame [2017-04-09 03:26:08] 7(each time you collect one color, you unlock a new color) [2017-04-09 03:26:09] everyone left the party [2017-04-09 03:26:17] and took all the punch with them [2017-04-09 03:26:18] how can someone like one luck minigame more than another one [2017-04-09 03:26:19] 4because theme is important [2017-04-09 03:26:19] 7(the new colors are in more difficult positions) [2017-04-09 03:26:26] 4but we also don't have 18 luck games [2017-04-09 03:26:31] 4so I think it's a good balance [2017-04-09 03:26:36] well alright [2017-04-09 03:26:38] fair enough [2017-04-09 03:26:41] man fuck cheep cheeps with their luck fishing games [2017-04-09 03:26:41] (do the dragon coins need to be collected all at once every time too) [2017-04-09 03:26:51] FUCK flip the chimp [2017-04-09 03:26:57] 12i have mp10 but i havent actually played any of the minigames on it [2017-04-09 03:26:58] 4it's like playing slots at a casino [2017-04-09 03:26:59] 12i've failed [2017-04-09 03:27:07] WHO DOESN'T BOWSER [2017-04-09 03:27:07] 7(in sma4 they do) [2017-04-09 03:27:09] S BIG BLAST [2017-04-09 03:27:10] 4they're all the same luck bullshit [2017-04-09 03:27:24] 4but you always look for a machine that has a theme you like so you forget that you're losing money [2017-04-09 03:27:25] 7(sma2*) [2017-04-09 03:27:26] 3that moment when you regret that the mariowiki community doesn't care about mario most of the time, so it's harder to gauge fan opinions [2017-04-09 03:27:28] should we add luigi minigames from sm64ds :^) [2017-04-09 03:27:37] 7(in original smw it doesn't really matter, but you get a 1up if you do) [2017-04-09 03:27:39] gambling aside [2017-04-09 03:27:54] (ah okay) [2017-04-09 03:28:05] (smr is the later version then) [2017-04-09 03:28:06] edo we care but only about daisys appearance in smash bros [2017-04-09 03:28:32] new plan [2017-04-09 03:28:34] 4I'm perfectly fine with leaving this award as-is [2017-04-09 03:28:37] that roulette minigame is easy as hell to manipulate [2017-04-09 03:28:38] just replace the AC with marioverse posters [2017-04-09 03:28:48] luigi minigames are nice though [2017-04-09 03:28:49] make the twins the directors [2017-04-09 03:28:51] also yeah [2017-04-09 03:28:55] im fine with leaving this as is [2017-04-09 03:28:58] same [2017-04-09 03:29:01] !skip [2017-04-09 03:29:04] ltq i know [2017-04-09 03:29:05] per moving on [2017-04-09 03:29:05] 4if we see an uptick of mp10 games come in this year then we'll have a better basis [2017-04-09 03:29:06] skip [2017-04-09 03:29:08] if there's any really shitty mp10 minigames they'll probably - yeah [2017-04-09 03:29:09] just put two tokens on the red and black spaces [2017-04-09 03:29:25] impossible to lose [2017-04-09 03:29:30] cant wait for mario party mobile if that ever becomes a thing and i also cant wait for it not to have online multiplayer [2017-04-09 03:29:34] 4F14 Worst Setting (Subcon (SMB2), Starship Mario & Galaxies (SMG2), Mushroom Kingdom (SM3DL), Sprixie Kingdom (SM3DW), Flip-/Flopside & Dimensions (SPM), Mushroom Kingdom (M&L:PiT), Pi'illo Island (M&L:DT), Party Cube (MP4), Star Carnival (MP8), Shroom City (MPA), Party Islands (MP:IT), Egg Island (YNI), Transformed Wario Castle (WW), [2017-04-09 03:29:37] 4DK Isles/Crocodile Isle (DK64), The Fun Fair & Surrounding Areas (MPL)) [2017-04-09 03:29:47] skip [2017-04-09 03:29:49] a e s t h e t i c [2017-04-09 03:29:55] how was the paint place from color splash [2017-04-09 03:29:57] 4 13) Starship Mario & Galaxies (SMG2) — 81 — 3.82% 14) DK Isles/Crocodile Isle (DK64) — 59 — 2.78% 15) Mushroom Kingdom (M&L:PiT) — 51 — 2.40% 16) O. Mushroom Kingdom (PM:SS) — 28 — 1.32% 17) O. Bowser’s Hotels (Hotel Mario) — 4 — 0.19% 18) O. Isle Delfino (SMS) — 3 — 0.14% [2017-04-09 03:30:01] did it suck or was it pretty good [2017-04-09 03:30:04] >bowser's hotels [2017-04-09 03:30:04] we added it to best setting [2017-04-09 03:30:05] 7it was pretty good [2017-04-09 03:30:07] ok [2017-04-09 03:30:07] i loved it [2017-04-09 03:30:08] 7nice design [2017-04-09 03:30:13] > the paint place [2017-04-09 03:30:14] add the kingdom from ss imo [2017-04-09 03:30:15] mlpit is towards the bottom [2017-04-09 03:30:16] 4I'm going to add Mushroom Kingdom (PM:SS) [2017-04-09 03:30:18] 7not overwhelmingly great, but consistently good [2017-04-09 03:30:19] people have good taste [2017-04-09 03:30:21] litterally the entire game is about paint [2017-04-09 03:30:21] then we definitely aren't adding it here [2017-04-09 03:30:22] thats a sizeable amount of votes [2017-04-09 03:30:23] 4unless people absolutely do not want me to [2017-04-09 03:30:23] 7 koopa hotels [2017-04-09 03:30:26] i'm fine wth sticker tar [2017-04-09 03:30:35] yeah thats fine [2017-04-09 03:30:38] just add ludwig tower or whatever [2017-04-09 03:30:45] that reminds me [2017-04-09 03:30:51] also im fine with sticker star [2017-04-09 03:30:54] 12add the ss kingdom thats a pretty good amount of writeins [2017-04-09 03:31:00] 7what did people have against isle delfino [2017-04-09 03:31:04] 7that was a great setting [2017-04-09 03:31:07] they had a missed opportunity by not putting shadow mario in color splash [2017-04-09 03:31:15] they have black bowser tho [2017-04-09 03:31:16] 4beyond that, though, any other changes [2017-04-09 03:31:20] not imo [2017-04-09 03:31:20] oh [2017-04-09 03:31:22] 4did color splash do anything [2017-04-09 03:31:23] oh dear [2017-04-09 03:31:33] no [2017-04-09 03:31:38] color splash had good settings [2017-04-09 03:31:49] nah colour splash had prism island and we added that to best aesthetic so i dont see why we should add it here [2017-04-09 03:31:53] skip [2017-04-09 03:31:54] yeah if it's good enough for best setting it definitely doesn't fit here imo [2017-04-09 03:31:57] 4gr8 [2017-04-09 03:32:20] 7well, there's always the possibility that somethign will be super divisive [2017-04-09 03:32:25] 7i dont think this was, thoguh [2017-04-09 03:32:47] i dont know anyone who hated prism island [2017-04-09 03:32:58] 4F15 Most Disappointing Game (New Super Mario Bros. 2, Paper Mario: Sticker Star, Yoshi’s New Island, Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games, Mario Party 10, Yoshi’s Island DS, Super Paper Mario, Mario Party 9, Diddy Kong Racing DS, Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash, Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition, Super Mario 64 DS, Super Mario 3D Land, [2017-04-09 03:33:01] 4Mario Party: Island Tour, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Mario Party 8, Super Mario Sunshine, New Super Mario Bros. U/New Super Luigi U) [2017-04-09 03:33:01] it was a good place [2017-04-09 03:33:12] 4this is already at 18 [2017-04-09 03:33:25] 4to add smm3ds we need to remove something [2017-04-09 03:33:26] 18 disappointments [2017-04-09 03:33:32] wow [2017-04-09 03:33:33] Super mario maker 3ds needs to be there so id opt for removal of all stars [2017-04-09 03:33:38] 4 16) Super Mario 3D Land — 38 — 1.48% 17) Yoshi's Island DS — 34 — 1.32% 18) Super Mario Galaxy 2 — 32 — 1.25% 19) O. Hotel Mario — 13 — 0.51% 20) O. Paper Mario: Color Splash — 8 — 0.31% 21) O. Super Mario 3D World — 7 — 0.27% 22) O. Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam — 5 — 0.19% [2017-04-09 03:33:47] 4I'm not going to allow Hotel Mario to be added [2017-04-09 03:33:54] ofc [2017-04-09 03:33:55] remove 64ds [2017-04-09 03:34:00] or actually smg2 [2017-04-09 03:34:01] remove smg2 [2017-04-09 03:34:04] since that was low [2017-04-09 03:34:06] it wasn't that disappointing [2017-04-09 03:34:07] yeah we'd replace smg2 [2017-04-09 03:34:12] 4if we're to remove anything it should be yids [2017-04-09 03:34:15] 4:bowser: [2017-04-09 03:34:24] 6i like how there was votes for color splash [2017-04-09 03:34:24] why's that? [2017-04-09 03:34:30] 6was that game even out? [2017-04-09 03:34:32] 4to make 22 mad [2017-04-09 03:34:35] as salty as i get over all stars still being on this award [2017-04-09 03:34:45] we should probably replace smg2 [2017-04-09 03:34:45] 12the lowest vote should be removed so [2017-04-09 03:34:49] why is all stars on here again [2017-04-09 03:34:56] why is galaxy 2 on here again? [2017-04-09 03:35:02] 4the votes are tight enough, though, to not consider 18th place to be booted by default [2017-04-09 03:35:03] 12kill smg2 for smm3ds [2017-04-09 03:35:11] 4so if people wanna debate which one to remove then I'm up for that [2017-04-09 03:35:13] 6galaxy 2 is just a clone of galaxy 1 [2017-04-09 03:35:15] 7is this the wii version of all stars [2017-04-09 03:35:17] 4we've got 25 minutes to do it [2017-04-09 03:35:17] smg2 probs because its smg + more levels or something [2017-04-09 03:35:22] 7you literally could not be disappointed by that [2017-04-09 03:35:26] 64 ds was aimed to be an example of the capabilities of the ds [2017-04-09 03:35:32] 12thats a good point but of those three i think its the one most viable to be remove anyway [2017-04-09 03:35:33] and it succeeded overall [2017-04-09 03:35:38] 7because it was impossible to not know exactly what to expect going into it [2017-04-09 03:35:39] 4ltq that sounds like a reason for it to be on the award [2017-04-09 03:35:51] 12yeah and a lot of people thought it wasn't a very good port [2017-04-09 03:35:57] well thats what i explained pretty much [2017-04-09 03:36:13] 7???smas? [2017-04-09 03:36:19] 7it was exactly like the snes version [2017-04-09 03:36:27] 7what exactly did they expect [2017-04-09 03:36:42] the version with smw, maybe [2017-04-09 03:36:45] 4 15) Super Mario 64 DS — 40 — 1.56% 16) Super Mario 3D Land — 38 — 1.48% 17) Yoshi's Island DS — 34 — 1.32% 18) Super Mario Galaxy 2 — 32 — 1.25% [2017-04-09 03:36:49] 4there's the 4 we can consider [2017-04-09 03:36:56] 64 ds [2017-04-09 03:37:03] sm64ds isnt bad [2017-04-09 03:37:10] 3lol [2017-04-09 03:37:21] 7sm64ds is universally agreed to be the worst thing in human history actually [2017-04-09 03:37:22] 3we literally had a conversation about that the other day [2017-04-09 03:37:23] it has luigi gambling [2017-04-09 03:37:26] I really like sm64 ds [2017-04-09 03:37:27] per 22 [2017-04-09 03:37:28] 12i liked sm64ds but plenty of people didnt [2017-04-09 03:37:34] was sm3dl genuinely disappointing to many people [2017-04-09 03:37:35] it's a tech demo through and through [2017-04-09 03:37:49] did people not like it because of the d pad? [2017-04-09 03:37:53] i liked 64 DS [2017-04-09 03:37:54] Lord_Bowser I thought sm3dl was on of the best mario games in years [2017-04-09 03:37:55] 6i will be ok with removing either smas or smg2 [2017-04-09 03:37:58] i don't know because i don't have the results in front of me, but [2017-04-09 03:38:00] 7sm3dl was boring [2017-04-09 03:38:00] but i am okay with leaving it on [2017-04-09 03:38:01] why not both [2017-04-09 03:38:04] how is ds a tech demo when its larger than sm64 itself [2017-04-09 03:38:08] because i know that people dislike it for good reasons [2017-04-09 03:38:09] what's the vote differential between 15th and 14th place?? [2017-04-09 03:38:09] 6but 22 KITSUNE LUIGI [2017-04-09 03:38:15] 7boring [2017-04-09 03:38:17] 4ok so idk how to hold this vote exactly [2017-04-09 03:38:19] 6wa [2017-04-09 03:38:27] 4since it's hard to allow multiple options in a quick vote like these [2017-04-09 03:38:31] 7kumiho waluigi [2017-04-09 03:38:38] 6what's a kumiho [2017-04-09 03:38:39] it was there to examplify how well the ds' 3d graphics were [2017-04-09 03:38:46] ask vote for 15/16/17/18/a ? [2017-04-09 03:38:48] maybe make this a topic instead [2017-04-09 03:38:50] 7look it up [2017-04-09 03:38:58] 6oh ok [2017-04-09 03:39:00] it seems too complex to be a vote here [2017-04-09 03:39:01] 6it's a ninetails [2017-04-09 03:39:02] 4so I guess what I'll do to see how it works is kinda what ltq just said [2017-04-09 03:39:16] 4starting after I post a line break just shout which one of those 4 you want to be removed from F15 [2017-04-09 03:39:18] 4------------- [2017-04-09 03:39:20] 3what we really need is centaur luigi [2017-04-09 03:39:28] super mario galaxy 2 [2017-04-09 03:39:29] 64 ds [2017-04-09 03:39:30] 12the one i most want to remove is smas but thats not an option so lol [2017-04-09 03:39:31] 15 [2017-04-09 03:39:32] smg2 [2017-04-09 03:39:34] 12galaxy 2 [2017-04-09 03:39:36] 618 [2017-04-09 03:39:37] 7why gabumon [2017-04-09 03:39:38] =sm64ds [2017-04-09 03:39:38] smg2 [2017-04-09 03:39:40] 7why would you say taht [2017-04-09 03:39:44] lynel luigi [2017-04-09 03:39:58] boytaur luigi [2017-04-09 03:39:58] 122-0-0-4-0 [2017-04-09 03:39:59] galaxy 2 i guess [2017-04-09 03:40:01] 718 [2017-04-09 03:40:06] 122-0-0-6-0 [2017-04-09 03:40:08] 6lb,,,,,, [2017-04-09 03:40:10] 7you guys are the worst [2017-04-09 03:40:17] 6why do you even know about boytaurs [2017-04-09 03:40:21] 7seriously [2017-04-09 03:40:24] |<-- Packy has left irc.darkmyst.org:6697 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [2017-04-09 03:40:25] 7thats a good question [2017-04-09 03:40:26] you and 22 told me about them [2017-04-09 03:40:29] reverse centaur bowser [2017-04-09 03:40:31] 3yeah I actually cant decide [2017-04-09 03:40:42] 4here now I can do this now that it's down to 2 solid directions [2017-04-09 03:40:46] 4Vote: Remove which nominee from F15? (SM64DS / SMG2 / a) [2017-04-09 03:40:50] 12smg2 [2017-04-09 03:40:51] 6smg2 [2017-04-09 03:40:51] smg2 [2017-04-09 03:40:53] 7smg2 [2017-04-09 03:40:54] smg2 [2017-04-09 03:40:55] smg2 [2017-04-09 03:40:57] smg2 [2017-04-09 03:40:58] 64 ds [2017-04-09 03:40:59] 3smg2 [2017-04-09 03:41:08] 121-8-0 [2017-04-09 03:41:12] smg2 [2017-04-09 03:41:19] 121-9-0 [2017-04-09 03:41:22] sm64ds [2017-04-09 03:41:28] smg20 [2017-04-09 03:41:35] 6woah [2017-04-09 03:41:41] 122--10-0 [2017-04-09 03:41:45] well dang [2017-04-09 03:41:48] 3someone here is from the future [2017-04-09 03:41:49] oh my god imagine 20 super mario galaxies [2017-04-09 03:41:53] 12my nominee stays [2017-04-09 03:41:54] 12eat shit [2017-04-09 03:41:57] 6i cant even imagine 1 [2017-04-09 03:42:00] 3thats why he has technology strapped to his head [2017-04-09 03:42:02] nintendo chugs out those games fas [2017-04-09 03:42:04] t [2017-04-09 03:42:05] 4the assumption of this was to add "Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS" [2017-04-09 03:42:06] 7whats your nominee [2017-04-09 03:42:08] 4so I'll be doing that too [2017-04-09 03:42:22] |<-- mcd has left irc.darkmyst.org:6697 (Quit: z) [2017-04-09 03:42:37] 4anything else to do to F15? [2017-04-09 03:42:45] nope [2017-04-09 03:42:49] well [2017-04-09 03:42:56] not that i can think of [2017-04-09 03:42:58] since nothing can be added unless we remove a thing [2017-04-09 03:43:01] nope [2017-04-09 03:43:03] 12sm64ds was my suggestion last year [2017-04-09 03:43:05] color splash wasn't really disappointing imo [2017-04-09 03:43:08] 7oh ok [2017-04-09 03:43:16] people had low expectations after sticker star [2017-04-09 03:43:34] Color Splash was fucking great [2017-04-09 03:43:39] yay 15 minutes what do [2017-04-09 03:43:40] 7yeah color splash was the opposite of a disappointment [2017-04-09 03:43:49] 4well with that we're kinda-done with Fail Awards, except for the few threads I gotta make [2017-04-09 03:43:56] 7i expected nothing and was pleasantly surprised [2017-04-09 03:44:09] 6i'm still disappointed by color splash :) [2017-04-09 03:44:13] 4up next is going to be Community Awards [2017-04-09 03:44:29] 4we're scheduled to start this next week so :clap: to being ahead [2017-04-09 03:44:35] hoo boy [2017-04-09 03:44:37] 4https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JWcUH7zE4Tsgn4jznzbCUbio-bm523-xYdIx7z3lj1Q/edit [2017-04-09 03:44:38] 7no you aren't [2017-04-09 03:44:39] yay [2017-04-09 03:44:46] 3I'm disappointed they won't just let the series rest in peace [2017-04-09 03:44:57] 4there is going to be a shroom meeting on sunday to work out some things before the next meeting, but [2017-04-09 03:45:01] woooo [2017-04-09 03:45:04] 4we can take this time now to start chipping away at things [2017-04-09 03:45:13] 4big ticket decisions still pending are [2017-04-09 03:45:16] 4C4 nominees [2017-04-09 03:45:24] 6boom [2017-04-09 03:45:30] * Lakituthequick makes a explosion joke [2017-04-09 03:45:31] turb: did you ever get to make that post [2017-04-09 03:45:38] quick, theorize ideas for smg20 [2017-04-09 03:45:40] im in the middle of copypasting stuff for it right now [2017-04-09 03:45:43] o ok [2017-04-09 03:45:46] favorite marioboards fad [2017-04-09 03:45:47] good work [2017-04-09 03:45:48] 4which, either tonight or in the next day or so [2017-04-09 03:45:50] best awards presentation needs that poll [2017-04-09 03:45:50] 4https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=38392.0 [2017-04-09 03:45:54] i probably should have done this earlier before i was dying and then came back to life [2017-04-09 03:46:00] 4I'm going to compile those into a poll to select 15-18 [2017-04-09 03:46:01] 6favorite joke nomination is a good idea [2017-04-09 03:46:07] gamefreak is that a serious proposal or [2017-04-09 03:46:11] 4when I set that poll up isn't an exact time so basically [2017-04-09 03:46:19] 4don't diddle your dick waiting to do this [2017-04-09 03:46:21] * Raiko_Chaorikawa nominates Cheese [2017-04-09 03:46:23] 7if it is im proposing favorite ban of gamefreak [2017-04-09 03:46:24] 4and do it immediately after this meeting closes [2017-04-09 03:46:26] anton i already did this [2017-04-09 03:46:30] 12we cut a while ago because it was a bad award [2017-04-09 03:46:31] can i diddle my dick instead [2017-04-09 03:46:35] 4yes blocky [2017-04-09 03:46:37] thx [2017-04-09 03:46:38] 12cut fad* [2017-04-09 03:46:40] because it sounds like a very bad idea [2017-04-09 03:46:48] 4aside from C4 [2017-04-09 03:46:50] ok but like anton and blocky have already covered my nominees [2017-04-09 03:46:51] 7boos dont have dicks, this isnt canon [2017-04-09 03:46:58] Do toads have dicks [2017-04-09 03:46:59] 6i already did it too [2017-04-09 03:47:02] how do you think they reproduce then [2017-04-09 03:47:04] 6granted i only nominated one [2017-04-09 03:47:06] 4another big thing is a potential vacant spot [2017-04-09 03:47:07] 7toads' whole bodies are dicks [2017-04-09 03:47:11] 6but it was the only one i wanted to nominate [2017-04-09 03:47:18] they're ghosts, they can't reproduce [2017-04-09 03:47:20] 4the former U2 and U3 were mostly-decided to be cut [2017-04-09 03:47:36] 4Favorite Written Fiction cut entirely because there's literally 0-1 nominees from within the last couple years [2017-04-09 03:47:46] 7toads actually physically explode to reproduce [2017-04-09 03:47:48] 12rip [2017-04-09 03:47:49] 4and Favorite Comic because it scrapes by at 5 but is kind of a package deal [2017-04-09 03:47:52] 3ideas for SMG20? [2017-04-09 03:48:04] everyone knows toads reproduce via spores [2017-04-09 03:48:06] crossover with star wars [2017-04-09 03:48:09] Mario fucking dies [2017-04-09 03:48:11] 4U4 Favorite User Design was also decided to be cut [2017-04-09 03:48:12] 3peach gets sucked into a black hole and turns into a literal spaghetti [2017-04-09 03:48:14] haven't you played mario tennis for the n64 [2017-04-09 03:48:15] 7yeah they explode into clouds of spores [2017-04-09 03:48:16] speaking of favorite comic [2017-04-09 03:48:18] 4there's still meeting time left so plz focus [2017-04-09 03:48:24] 3mario accidentally eats her and realizes his mistake [2017-04-09 03:48:25] it turns out that the tonight show was actually saved after all [2017-04-09 03:48:26] 4but U4 [2017-04-09 03:48:27] the miracle happen [2017-04-09 03:48:29] 3so he induces vomiting [2017-04-09 03:48:32] 6rip favorite user design :( [2017-04-09 03:48:46] 3but it turns out when you launch something into space, it just keeps going [2017-04-09 03:48:47] 4while decided to be cut, could also be resurrected if a new award idea isn't suggested [2017-04-09 03:48:50] (i mean it's four years done so no need to add it anyway) [2017-04-09 03:48:52] mmmm [2017-04-09 03:48:57] 4I'd prefer new ideas to be pondered so that's another thing to do [2017-04-09 03:48:58] 3so the objective of the game is to just chase your own vomit forever [2017-04-09 03:49:06] i'd rather come up with something new so i'll try my best [2017-04-09 03:49:08] favorite user project [2017-04-09 03:49:19] or sth like that [2017-04-09 03:49:20] favourite oregon trial part [2017-04-09 03:49:23] 4lb that was a topic of debate in the shroom meeting [2017-04-09 03:49:31] 4that being a defacto merging of U2/U3 [2017-04-09 03:49:32] favorite sippin time thread [2017-04-09 03:49:34] i had shit in a favorite fan creation idea in another chat earlier [2017-04-09 03:49:36] 4it wasn't well-received [2017-04-09 03:49:37] but idk what it would be [2017-04-09 03:49:46] unless it had stuff from lper too mayeb [2017-04-09 03:49:47] 7add d&d to favorite community event [2017-04-09 03:49:51] but even then bbbbbbbbbbbbb [2017-04-09 03:49:55] 4that's not to say the AC won't think it's a gr8 idea but [2017-04-09 03:49:57] good idea [2017-04-09 03:50:01] i want to vote for dnd [2017-04-09 03:50:03] weeeeell [2017-04-09 03:50:03] 4that's what the shroom staff thought of it [2017-04-09 03:50:06] why [2017-04-09 03:50:17] what was their reasoning [2017-04-09 03:50:20] 4Comics and Written Fiction can't exactly be judged on the same level [2017-04-09 03:50:21] 7i cant wait for d&d to get exactly 6 votes [2017-04-09 03:50:22] it's something that only has a few members participating [2017-04-09 03:50:23] i see both pros and cons for a merge so [2017-04-09 03:50:29] 4comics pretty much objectively are viewed more favorably [2017-04-09 03:50:34] unless people can spectate [2017-04-09 03:50:38] not if i use my weekly votes to give it more [2017-04-09 03:50:38] 4due to being visual media [2017-04-09 03:50:59] 3I gave a whole rhethoric on why I was against the merge in the shroom meeting [2017-04-09 03:51:06] 4there's logs somewhere [2017-04-09 03:51:15] 4I literally can't remember if they're visible to the entire AC [2017-04-09 03:51:23] nope [2017-04-09 03:51:28] the logs are in the hroom staff board [2017-04-09 03:51:38] favorite incarnation of tabuu's 132 [2017-04-09 03:51:49] 4I guess we can make those available along with the next shroom meeting after that one closes [2017-04-09 03:51:51] 6lol [2017-04-09 03:52:23] I expect at least 9 nominees for that one [2017-04-09 03:52:31] 4otherwise it's just nominee updates for the rest [2017-04-09 03:53:05] 4while there's still time for shroom staff to ruminate on last bits [2017-04-09 03:53:19] The fantastic user ass appreciation award [2017-04-09 03:53:27] 4is there anything people here in the AC want to be done to Community Awards that could maybe be better worked on in a focused group during the shroom meeting on sunday? [2017-04-09 03:53:36] 7mcd wins [2017-04-09 03:53:51] idk im ok with the shroom awards for the most part [2017-04-09 03:54:15] just so long as we change the names to make the distinction that theyre shroom awards [2017-04-09 03:54:23] 4yeah we'll be doing that [2017-04-09 03:54:24] 12favorite part about smasher [2017-04-09 03:54:35] i dont really feel like theres anything that would be significantly better handled in that meeting [2017-04-09 03:54:54] aside from maybe working a bit more on that replacement thing [2017-04-09 03:54:55] but _ [2017-04-09 03:54:59] probably already planned [2017-04-09 03:55:10] 6[20:53] GBAToad The fantastic user ass appreciation award [2017-04-09 03:55:11] im drawing a bbbbbbbb at new awards atm [2017-04-09 03:55:12] 6nominate me [2017-04-09 03:55:27] favorite april fools prank? [2017-04-09 03:55:59] probably not that strong but [2017-04-09 03:56:08] 7im not sure how many people are goign to remember previous years tbh [2017-04-09 03:56:13] 12the problem with that would be that no one would remember the old ones [2017-04-09 03:56:33] [s]favorite user fetish[/s] [2017-04-09 03:56:36] 4Favorite Community Event was a User Award that we removed I think last year [2017-04-09 03:56:39] but yeah in a serious note [2017-04-09 03:56:41] -it was [2017-04-09 03:56:45] mostly because it ran low [2017-04-09 03:56:47] 4it included the April Fools things [2017-04-09 03:56:55] 12oh i forgot we removed that [2017-04-09 03:56:57] ah [2017-04-09 03:57:44] 4ok well if that's that I'll get to closing the meeting, but [2017-04-09 03:57:51] 4things to work on between now and next meeting: [2017-04-09 03:58:12] 4*Topic for adding battle courses to F8 Worst Mario Kart Course? [2017-04-09 03:58:15] 4*Topic for negative/positive phrasing in F11 [2017-04-09 03:58:21] 4*Finish C4 [2017-04-09 03:58:33] 4*Brainstorm a new Community Award idea [2017-04-09 03:58:44] 4I think that's it for those things [2017-04-09 03:58:53] woop http://i.imgur.com/goB0uqH.gif <=to be continued|\|/ [2017-04-09 03:58:54] (if we're adding battle courses to f8 we sohuld also add to a4) [2017-04-09 03:59:09] 4good idea ltq [2017-04-09 03:59:09] *M4 [2017-04-09 03:59:29] 7i was actually thinking abuot making it a separate award [2017-04-09 03:59:35] 7idk if anything is weak this year [2017-04-09 03:59:41] it's gonna be to much of a cluster if it's not [2017-04-09 03:59:43] 4out of Fail Awards, not really [2017-04-09 03:59:50] 4but that's what the thread will be for [2017-04-09 03:59:51] 7no, in the main awards [2017-04-09 04:00:01] 4to decide if it's a new award or just shoehorning [2017-04-09 04:00:17] mario maker element is probably the weakest but we decided to keep that because smm3ds [2017-04-09 04:00:25] 4but yeah that's it, meeting adjourned