[2017-04-23 02:00:09] <Anton{Politoed}> 4hi, it's time for meeting time, starring your fabulous host
[2017-04-23 02:00:10] <Anton{Politoed}> 4me
[2017-04-23 02:00:18] * Lakituthequick beeps horn
[2017-04-23 02:00:34] <Lord_Bowser> woo
[2017-04-23 02:00:41] <Anton{Politoed}> 4this episode we're going to finish Community Awards and tie up some loose ends with that and then start the Complete Review
[2017-04-23 02:00:53] <Anton{Politoed}> 4which is a grueling process that we will do again after E3 anyways
[2017-04-23 02:01:01] <meowth> 12me
[2017-04-23 02:01:25] <Lakituthequick> i have notes on about 12 awards in just mario and fail so :ok:
[2017-04-23 02:01:26] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I missed last week so forgive me if I'm not exactly on top of every minute decision and thing that was made but tl;dr let's-a-go
[2017-04-23 02:01:59] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it looks like we left off on C14
[2017-04-23 02:02:03] <Anton{Politoed}> 4rather, finished them, but
[2017-04-23 02:02:06] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we're going with C14 now
[2017-04-23 02:02:07] <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MKs8Rz9QsrkL88EfSI-HAGwSoNQDZT8Tt6MHMDJAFVI/edit
[2017-04-23 02:02:22] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it currently sits at:
[2017-04-23 02:02:25] <Anton{Politoed}> 4'Shroom Person of the Year 2016-2017 (Yoshi876, Mr. Edo, Anton, FunkyK38, MrConcreteDonkey, Toadbert101, Tucayo,  Andymii, 2257, Meta Knight, Superchao)
[2017-04-23 02:02:39] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but in https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=38483.0 Lord_Bowser suggested removing tb and adding tpg
[2017-04-23 02:02:59] <Anton{Politoed}> 4feel free to take like 20 seconds to read that post before I go and call a vote
[2017-04-23 02:04:16] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so
[2017-04-23 02:04:16] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Remove Toadbert101 and add The Pyro Guy to C14? (y/n/a)
[2017-04-23 02:04:24] <Lord_Bowser> y
[2017-04-23 02:04:27] <Lakituthequick> y
[2017-04-23 02:04:27] <GBAToad> y
[2017-04-23 02:04:31] <GBAToad> im alive btw
[2017-04-23 02:04:49] <meowth> 12q
[2017-04-23 02:04:50] <meowth> 12a
[2017-04-23 02:04:52] <Anton{Politoed}> 4y
[2017-04-23 02:04:55] <shoutmon> 7y
[2017-04-23 02:04:56] <turb> y
[2017-04-23 02:05:10] <meowth> 126-0-1-0 (q)
[2017-04-23 02:05:14] <turb> i will say though that i feel iffy on removing tb
[2017-04-23 02:05:28] <turb> im convinced tpg is a good choice but i just feel _ about that
[2017-04-23 02:05:32] <Anton{Politoed}> 4me too
[2017-04-23 02:05:45] <Lord_Bowser> i mean tbf i meant for them to be separate
[2017-04-23 02:05:47] <GBAToad> same
[2017-04-23 02:05:48] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but idk man I liked his section but I can't exactly justify that as a reason for him to be on C14
[2017-04-23 02:05:52] <turb> yeah
[2017-04-23 02:05:55] <turb> i know what you mean
[2017-04-23 02:06:08] <Lord_Bowser> as in have separate calls for removing tb and adding tpg
[2017-04-23 02:06:19] <Lord_Bowser> sorry if that confused anyone 
[2017-04-23 02:06:37] <Anton{Politoed}> 4either way Y to both is what looks like what's happening
[2017-04-23 02:06:41] <Lakituthequick> well i'd have voted the same thing even if the votes were seperate so
[2017-04-23 02:07:39] <Anton{Politoed}> 4anything else for C14?
[2017-04-23 02:07:50] <Lord_Bowser> not that i can think of
[2017-04-23 02:08:22] <Anton{Politoed}> 4next then is C15, affirming this decision
[2017-04-23 02:08:24] <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=38494.0
[2017-04-23 02:08:49] <Anton{Politoed}> 4whether to keep SMB, Walkazo, Dippy, and Stoob on C15
[2017-04-23 02:09:01] <Anton{Politoed}> 4the justification for them remaining is that this specific award isn't an annual one
[2017-04-23 02:09:11] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but instead follows a guideline to prioritize relevancy
[2017-04-23 02:10:05] <Lakituthequick> what were smb's recent-ish contributions
[2017-04-23 02:10:34] <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://www.mariowiki.com/The_'Shroom:Issue_111/User_Awards_Dossier#U10._Outstanding_Community_Achievement_Award
[2017-04-23 02:10:41] <Anton{Politoed}> 4his are admittedly a the oldest of the bunch
[2017-04-23 02:11:46] <Anton{Politoed}> 4with Shroom and User Awards being merged, the scope of Shroom Person of the Year and Community Achievement are now more blatantly overlapped than they once were
[2017-04-23 02:12:09] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and I believe would be subject to just making those 2 into 1 award somewhere down the line
[2017-04-23 02:12:11] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but not this year
[2017-04-23 02:12:42] <Lakituthequick> well really only walkazo has the more recent things considering <=2014 as long-ish ago
[2017-04-23 02:13:05] <GBAToad> Stoob hosted shroom mafia
[2017-04-23 02:13:20] <Lakituthequick> well others hosted awards mafia
[2017-04-23 02:13:21] <turb> tbh shroom mafia is an unironic achievement
[2017-04-23 02:13:27] <Lakituthequick> i dont see them listed for that
[2017-04-23 02:13:28] <GBAToad> and was director of sw until like two years ago
[2017-04-23 02:13:37] <GBAToad> at least iirc
[2017-04-23 02:14:06] <GBAToad> idk shroom mafia was a huge thing to pull off imo
[2017-04-23 02:14:21] <turb> i think im fine with keeping everyone on there just since it would be easier and i feel like everyone is recent enough to still count
[2017-04-23 02:14:35] <turb> and not be "this guy from years ago that's on the award because we didn't clean it up"
[2017-04-23 02:14:50] <Anton{Politoed}> 4well let's do this in two parts
[2017-04-23 02:15:19] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Keep C15 as being defined by recent relevancy rather than on an annual basis? (y/n/a)
[2017-04-23 02:15:25] <shoutmon> 7a
[2017-04-23 02:15:34] <Anton{Politoed}> 4y
[2017-04-23 02:15:36] <turb> y
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[2017-04-23 02:15:46] <GBAToad> y
[2017-04-23 02:16:05] <Lakituthequick> y
[2017-04-23 02:16:10] <Lord_Bowser> y
[2017-04-23 02:16:20] <Meta_Knight> 10y
[2017-04-23 02:16:58] <Meta_Knight> 10also back
[2017-04-23 02:17:01] <Lord_Bowser> 6-0-1
[2017-04-23 02:17:05] <Anton{Politoed}> 4participation today seems very light
[2017-04-23 02:17:09] <Lakituthequick> well
[2017-04-23 02:17:17] <Lord_Bowser> df is at work
[2017-04-23 02:17:21] <Lakituthequick> i think this is more of a bigger choice
[2017-04-23 02:17:21] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we have 9 people who are here which is literally the minimum for holding a meeting
[2017-04-23 02:17:28] <Lakituthequick> rather than participation
[2017-04-23 02:18:02] <Anton{Politoed}> 4is there anyone from C15 that anyone feels should be removed
[2017-04-23 02:18:06] <Meta_Knight> 10sorry i was afk before like i said i had to shower
[2017-04-23 02:18:13] <Meta_Knight> 10and i dont think anyone else should be removed
[2017-04-23 02:18:30] <Lord_Bowser> yeah i think the award is fine as is
[2017-04-23 02:18:32] <Anton{Politoed}> 4or additions, even
[2017-04-23 02:18:59] <Lakituthequick> add me
[2017-04-23 02:18:59] <Lakituthequick> (it's fine)
[2017-04-23 02:19:00] <turb> i considered yoshikong
[2017-04-23 02:19:04] <turb> hes a crat now
[2017-04-23 02:19:18] <Meta_Knight> 10yoshikong would be good in my opinion
[2017-04-23 02:19:21] <Lord_Bowser> oh yeah yk wouldn't be bad
[2017-04-23 02:19:35] <GBAToad> per
[2017-04-23 02:19:37] <Meta_Knight> 10it would also help differenciate this award from shroom person of the year i hink
[2017-04-23 02:19:39] <Anton{Politoed}> 4he'd be listed as Shokora, as he is in the Wiki Contributor Award
[2017-04-23 02:19:51] <Lord_Bowser> yeah that's fine
[2017-04-23 02:19:53] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but ok let's do that
[2017-04-23 02:19:53] <GBAToad> well yeah thats his username now anyway
[2017-04-23 02:19:58] <turb> does he also run poll committee shit
[2017-04-23 02:20:00] <turb> i can't remember
[2017-04-23 02:20:01] <Lord_Bowser> no
[2017-04-23 02:20:03] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Add Shokora to C15? (y/n/a)
[2017-04-23 02:20:06] <GBAToad> Y
[2017-04-23 02:20:06] <Meta_Knight> 10y'
[2017-04-23 02:20:07] <Lord_Bowser> andy and tucayo do
[2017-04-23 02:20:08] <turb> y
[2017-04-23 02:20:08] <Lakituthequick> a
[2017-04-23 02:20:09] <Lord_Bowser> y
[2017-04-23 02:20:17] <Packy> y
[2017-04-23 02:20:30] <Anton{Politoed}> 4y
[2017-04-23 02:20:40] <Lord_Bowser> 5.5-0-1
[2017-04-23 02:20:58] <Anton{Politoed}> 4where's the .5 coming from
[2017-04-23 02:21:01] <Meta_Knight> 10packy's vote doesnt count i dont think if he isnt in the ac
[2017-04-23 02:21:02] <Lord_Bowser> packy
[2017-04-23 02:21:04] <Lakituthequick> half a vote?
[2017-04-23 02:21:14] <Lord_Bowser> oh smasher made it count as half last time so 
[2017-04-23 02:21:15] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we stopped doing half votes this year
[2017-04-23 02:21:20] <Lord_Bowser> oh okay
[2017-04-23 02:21:25] <Lord_Bowser> 5-0-1 then
[2017-04-23 02:21:32] =-= Mode #mwikiawards -v Packy by Anton{Politoed}
[2017-04-23 02:21:54] <Packy> ;-;
[2017-04-23 02:21:56] <Lakituthequick> devoice? did he had voice to begin with?
[2017-04-23 02:21:57] <Anton{Politoed}> 4anything else for C15?
[2017-04-23 02:21:59] <Packy> one of these days i will trick you all
[2017-04-23 02:22:13] <Meta_Knight> 10nothing comes to my mind
[2017-04-23 02:22:24] <GBAToad> move on imo
[2017-04-23 02:22:34] <Lord_Bowser> yeah move on
[2017-04-23 02:22:39] <Anton{Politoed}> 4up next are C2 and C11
[2017-04-23 02:22:47] <Anton{Politoed}> 4which are complete but just really needs like
[2017-04-23 02:22:54] <Anton{Politoed}> 4idk, me telling you it's done
[2017-04-23 02:23:09] <Lord_Bowser> are they done
[2017-04-23 02:23:12] <Meta_Knight> 10this is the one for best 'shroom artwork and best use of shroom images
[2017-04-23 02:23:13] <Anton{Politoed}> 4there's some minor confusion regarding the difference between each of them
[2017-04-23 02:23:20] <Anton{Politoed}> 4the definitions are fine but it's mostly in the names
[2017-04-23 02:23:47] <Anton{Politoed}> 4C2 Best 'Shroom Section Artwork
[2017-04-23 02:23:56] <Anton{Politoed}> 4refers to the actual artwork people produce on their own
[2017-04-23 02:24:00] <Anton{Politoed}> 4drawings, etc.
[2017-04-23 02:24:06] <Anton{Politoed}> 4C11 Best Use of Images in a ‘Shroom Section
[2017-04-23 02:24:14] <Anton{Politoed}> 4refers to how people use graphics to enhance their sections
[2017-04-23 02:24:21] <turb> theres also some nominees we were considering lopping off to better fit the definitions
[2017-04-23 02:24:30] <turb> what was that name rework we were suggesting for c11
[2017-04-23 02:24:30] <Anton{Politoed}> 4which may or may not be images produced by themselves, and could also include charts and diagrama
[2017-04-23 02:24:39] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it's more of an aesthetic award than an art one, really
[2017-04-23 02:24:44] <Anton{Politoed}> 4a nice section to look at
[2017-04-23 02:24:52] <turb> yeah
[2017-04-23 02:25:18] <Meta_Knight> 10what if we renamed it 'Best Aesthetics in a 'Shroom Section"
[2017-04-23 02:25:22] <Lord_Bowser> i would maybe suggest "Best-Looking 'Shroom Section" but idk that just seems off
[2017-04-23 02:25:24] <turb> god no
[2017-04-23 02:25:27] <turb> memes
[2017-04-23 02:25:27] <Anton{Politoed}> 4that sounds weird though
[2017-04-23 02:25:30] <turb> memes everywhrere
[2017-04-23 02:25:35] <Lakituthequick> aesthetics refers to non-images too
[2017-04-23 02:25:45] <Lakituthequick> i think
[2017-04-23 02:25:52] <turb> i mean it's not an actually bad suggestion its just that i think of the aesthetics meme every single time
[2017-04-23 02:25:56] <turb> and idk if the voters will too
[2017-04-23 02:25:59] <Lakituthequick> so like i use nice tables so
[2017-04-23 02:26:04] <shoutmon> 7sexiest shroom section
[2017-04-23 02:26:06] <GBAToad> turb i wont
[2017-04-23 02:26:07] <turb> plus yeah the definition gets muddled there
[2017-04-23 02:26:09] <Anton{Politoed}> 4'well put together' is a thing but idk how it fits in
[2017-04-23 02:26:11] <Anton{Politoed}> 4y @ 22
[2017-04-23 02:26:14] <Lord_Bowser> lol
[2017-04-23 02:26:15] <turb> re: with tables
[2017-04-23 02:26:18] <turb> i like 22's suggestion
[2017-04-23 02:26:31] <turb> re: that name rework i accidentally butted in with earlier
[2017-04-23 02:26:34] <GBAToad> I was gonna suggest lobbing in Usermade somewhere in C2 but thats redundant
[2017-04-23 02:26:41] <dia> hi
[2017-04-23 02:26:42] <turb> i think we were thinking "best supplemental use of images in a shroom section" or something
[2017-04-23 02:26:54] <turb> wordy, but gets the meaning fully across
[2017-04-23 02:27:01] <Anton{Politoed}> 4oh oh
[2017-04-23 02:27:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Most Polished 'Shroom Section
[2017-04-23 02:27:12] <Anton{Politoed}> 4what do i win
[2017-04-23 02:27:16] <dia> oh that sounds good
[2017-04-23 02:27:18] <Lord_Bowser> oh i like that actually
[2017-04-23 02:27:21] <Meta_Knight> 10shoe polish
[2017-04-23 02:27:22] <turb> that sounds like it would work
[2017-04-23 02:27:26] <Lakituthequick> same thing as with aestics really
[2017-04-23 02:27:35] <Anton{Politoed}> 4yeah i googled aesthetic synonyms
[2017-04-23 02:27:39] <Anton{Politoed}> 4:bowser:
[2017-04-23 02:27:43] <Lakituthequick> gdi anton
[2017-04-23 02:27:46] <dia> :dk:
[2017-04-23 02:27:50] <Meta_Knight> 10but yaeh this way we can include charts and tables as well
[2017-04-23 02:28:00] <GBAToad> yeah it would work and it doesnt exclusively refer to the use of images
[2017-04-23 02:28:05] <turb> it has the benefit of not giving me flashbacks to worst aesthetic
[2017-04-23 02:28:11] <GBAToad> :^)
[2017-04-23 02:28:17] <Lakituthequick> would open up the gates for pipe plaza writers
[2017-04-23 02:28:22] <Meta_Knight> 10and lets be honest the tables in pipe plaza do look nice
[2017-04-23 02:28:23] <Meta_Knight> 10yaeh
[2017-04-23 02:28:28] * Lakituthequick coughs
[2017-04-23 02:28:30] <GBAToad> smexy tables
[2017-04-23 02:28:33] <turb> yeah
[2017-04-23 02:28:37] <Anton{Politoed}> 4ok so
[2017-04-23 02:28:41] <Meta_Knight> 10except when retro feature breaks the issue but thats another story
[2017-04-23 02:28:49] <Anton{Politoed}> 4let's just make this formal before we move on if discussion re: name is finished
[2017-04-23 02:29:01] <Lakituthequick> tbh most of the tables are coded weird but they do look inteligent
[2017-04-23 02:29:07] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Rename C11 to "Most Polished 'Shroom Section"? (y/n/a)
[2017-04-23 02:29:10] <Meta_Knight> 10y
[2017-04-23 02:29:11] <Lord_Bowser> y
[2017-04-23 02:29:12] <turb> y
[2017-04-23 02:29:16] <Lakituthequick> y
[2017-04-23 02:29:18] <dia> y
[2017-04-23 02:29:18] <GBAToad> we should give it a definition then to clarify why we're calling them polished but
[2017-04-23 02:29:19] <shoutmon> 7y
[2017-04-23 02:29:19] <GBAToad> y
[2017-04-23 02:29:27] <Anton{Politoed}> 4y
[2017-04-23 02:29:31] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and yeah that's the next step
[2017-04-23 02:29:35] <Lord_Bowser> 8-0-0
[2017-04-23 02:29:50] <Anton{Politoed}> 4sending this back to the shroom crew to set up nominees again
[2017-04-23 02:30:04] <Anton{Politoed}> 4which I'll leave up to Meta_Knight to say whether that should be in the shroom staff board or ac staff
[2017-04-23 02:30:39] <Meta_Knight> 10i'll update the thread we have for the split with this decision and give the shroom staff a week to come up with new nominees/suggestions
[2017-04-23 02:30:52] <Anton{Politoed}> 4gr8
[2017-04-23 02:30:55] <Lakituthequick> would this in essence be equavalent to removing 'best use of images' as the definition was shifted so much
[2017-04-23 02:31:00] <Meta_Knight> 10if nothing happens or we get it good it will be passed on to the ac
[2017-04-23 02:31:04] <Lakituthequick> and adding a new award
[2017-04-23 02:31:06] <Anton{Politoed}> 4pretty much, ltq
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[2017-04-23 02:31:24] <Anton{Politoed}> 4dissolved Best Use of Images into two child awards
[2017-04-23 02:31:27] <Lakituthequick> cool, then i'll mark the former as 'removed' in my notes
[2017-04-23 02:32:03] <Anton{Politoed}> 4up next after this is C5
[2017-04-23 02:32:16] <Anton{Politoed}> 4where all I have planned is to tell you we added eldritchdraaks
[2017-04-23 02:33:10] <Anton{Politoed}> 4ok is that it
[2017-04-23 02:33:14] <Lakituthequick> i've noticed him
[2017-04-23 02:33:23] <Anton{Politoed}> 4next on my list is Complete Review so
[2017-04-23 02:33:34] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'll just open the floor for anyone who has literally anything they want to say or do
[2017-04-23 02:33:52] <Anton{Politoed}> 4after the first Complete Review we'll get into tournaments and token shenanigans
[2017-04-23 02:34:14] <Lakituthequick> i have some notes for during the full review
[2017-04-23 02:34:16] <turb> throw a party and shit on the floor
[2017-04-23 02:34:16] <Lord_Bowser> i'll have something to say when we get to tourney stuff
[2017-04-23 02:34:23] <Anton{Politoed}> 4which will ride us out through the rest of the year, with an E3 speed bump where we hustle to update awards if necessary
[2017-04-23 02:34:26] <Lakituthequick> and one commend on the entire list overall
[2017-04-23 02:34:31] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and turb and I fucking panic while we get polls set up
[2017-04-23 02:34:49] <turb> were there any pressing concerns people had during the awards that were still a touchy subject after voting
[2017-04-23 02:35:09] <GBAToad> not that i can remember
[2017-04-23 02:35:10] <turb> man i wish we could automate setting up polls
[2017-04-23 02:35:56] <Lakituthequick> well turb
[2017-04-23 02:36:09] <Lakituthequick> polldaddy literally has an api that supports that
[2017-04-23 02:36:16] <turb> do they
[2017-04-23 02:36:16] <Anton{Politoed}> 4is it free though
[2017-04-23 02:36:18] <turb> ^
[2017-04-23 02:36:22] <GBAToad> poll me daddy
[2017-04-23 02:36:27] <turb> pls no
[2017-04-23 02:36:45] <Lord_Bowser> i'm in the poll committee so i can do that gbatoad :^)
[2017-04-23 02:36:45] <Lakituthequick> well i dont know but i'd assume it is
[2017-04-23 02:36:46] <Anton{Politoed}> 4polldaddy has lots of cool shit but it costs like $800 a year for it
[2017-04-23 02:36:58] * Lakituthequick shrugs
[2017-04-23 02:36:59] <Anton{Politoed}> 4such as tracking each vote by IP
[2017-04-23 02:37:06] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'll look into it
[2017-04-23 02:37:31] <GBAToad> tbf thats not worth it anyway since we only use it once a year even if its for a fuckton of polls
[2017-04-23 02:37:58] <Lakituthequick> anyway my overall point on the list
[2017-04-23 02:38:00] <Meta_Knight> 10Anton turb gbatoad meowth any other shroom members: i updated that thread
[2017-04-23 02:38:05] <Lakituthequick> regarding quotation marks
[2017-04-23 02:38:11] <turb> :thumbsup:
[2017-04-23 02:38:30] <Lakituthequick> there are two different variants of ' used in the full list
[2017-04-23 02:39:11] <Lakituthequick> a simple search replace would probably solve that
[2017-04-23 02:39:55] <GBAToad> lets keep ' over "
[2017-04-23 02:40:09] <Lakituthequick> its not single versus double quotes
[2017-04-23 02:40:21] <GBAToad> oh fuck i misread that
[2017-04-23 02:40:21] <Lakituthequick> its curly single over normal single quotes
[2017-04-23 02:40:22] <turb> is it literally just a different character for '
[2017-04-23 02:40:25] <turb> meh
[2017-04-23 02:40:34] <GBAToad> is it the thing word does
[2017-04-23 02:40:41] <turb> yeah i think so
[2017-04-23 02:40:48] <Anton{Politoed}> 4i think i did something just now
[2017-04-23 02:40:48] <turb> replaces all the single quotes for no reason
[2017-04-23 02:41:02] <Lakituthequick> yeah pretty much is what word does that i personally dont like
[2017-04-23 02:41:19] <Anton{Politoed}> 4if it didn't change it just now despite what I did then *shrug*
[2017-04-23 02:41:23] <GBAToad> also another stupid thing: did we decide on a format for the favourite actor award i cant remember
[2017-04-23 02:41:28] <Anton{Politoed}> 4because I just replaced all with the same '
[2017-04-23 02:41:43] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and yes we did and I've implemented it
[2017-04-23 02:41:47] <GBAToad> good
[2017-04-23 02:41:56] <GBAToad> i say move on then
[2017-04-23 02:42:18] <Anton{Politoed}> 4ok so
[2017-04-23 02:42:21] <Lakituthequick> quotes look good now
[2017-04-23 02:42:23] <Anton{Politoed}> 4the way the Complete Review works is
[2017-04-23 02:42:40] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we just look over every single award and decision, swiftly but carefully
[2017-04-23 02:42:49] <Anton{Politoed}> 4to see if we made any huge fuckups or typos or anything
[2017-04-23 02:43:00] <Anton{Politoed}> 4including oversights in additions and removals
[2017-04-23 02:43:22] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it's probably the most boring thing to do, but
[2017-04-23 02:43:30] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it's necessary just to ensure we haven't made silly mistakes
[2017-04-23 02:43:41] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so
[2017-04-23 02:43:58] <GBAToad> As much as i like having sma2 be a fail in itself
[2017-04-23 02:44:06] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M1 Best Sound Design (Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, Paper Mario, Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Super Mario 64, Super Mario World, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, Super Paper Mario, Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest, Super Mario 3D World, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, 
[2017-04-23 02:44:06] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Mario Kart 8/Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Mario & Luigi: Dream Team, Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam, Paper Mario: Color Splash)
[2017-04-23 02:44:22] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M1 right off the bat shows that I standardized no spaces surrounding /
[2017-04-23 02:44:38] <Anton{Politoed}> 4because that's my own personal typing quirk and as much as it kills me I can't have it affect the list
[2017-04-23 02:45:00] <Lakituthequick> what is prefered normally
[2017-04-23 02:45:19] <Lakituthequick> like i personally like surrounding spaces but what is the overall opinion
[2017-04-23 02:45:24] <Anton{Politoed}> 4no spaces is the standard but
[2017-04-23 02:45:25] <Meta_Knight> 10im fine with no spaces
[2017-04-23 02:45:26] <turb> i have no opinion either way
[2017-04-23 02:45:31] <Anton{Politoed}> 4idk bro i just think it's better to look at with spaces
[2017-04-23 02:45:35] <Lord_Bowser> i don't mind either wat
[2017-04-23 02:45:37] <Meta_Knight> 10you woulddnt write the date 04 / 22 / 17
[2017-04-23 02:45:43] <Meta_Knight> 10but it doesnt really matter i gues
[2017-04-23 02:45:46] <Anton{Politoed}> 4by "standard" I mean in actual english and not what we've decided
[2017-04-23 02:45:53] <shoutmon> 7yeah youd write it 2017-04-22
[2017-04-23 02:45:54] <Lakituthequick> dates and names are different things
[2017-04-23 02:45:57] <shoutmon> 7because youre not a save
[2017-04-23 02:46:02] <shoutmon> 7savage
[2017-04-23 02:46:04] <Lakituthequick> also its Y-M-D or D-M-Y so
[2017-04-23 02:46:17] <shoutmon> 7wrong, its only y-m-d
[2017-04-23 02:46:19] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I will literally ban people if we debate this
[2017-04-23 02:46:19] * shoutmon 7bans ltq
[2017-04-23 02:46:24] <Anton{Politoed}> 4see, like that
[2017-04-23 02:46:35] <Anton{Politoed}> 4anyways does M1 look fine
[2017-04-23 02:46:40] <Meta_Knight> 10yes
[2017-04-23 02:46:47] <turb> yes
[2017-04-23 02:46:50] <Lakituthequick> yes
[2017-04-23 02:46:51] <Lord_Bowser> yes
[2017-04-23 02:47:03] <GBAToad> yass
[2017-04-23 02:47:04] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M2 Favorite Mario Kart Game (Super Mario Kart, Mario Kart 64, Mario Kart: Super Circuit, Mario Kart: Double Dash!!, Mario Kart DS, Mario Kart Wii, Mario Kart 7, Mario Kart 8/Mario Kart 8 Deluxe)
[2017-04-23 02:47:12] <Meta_Knight> 10y
[2017-04-23 02:47:16] <Lord_Bowser> yeah
[2017-04-23 02:47:31] <Lakituthequick> y
[2017-04-23 02:47:35] <dia> i always do no spac/e
[2017-04-23 02:47:47] <turb> y
[2017-04-23 02:47:50] <dia> 7
[2017-04-23 02:47:51] <dia> y
[2017-04-23 02:47:52] <Anton{Politoed}> 4this award is already all-inclusive afaik
[2017-04-23 02:47:54] <dia> woops
[2017-04-23 02:48:06] <turb> its everything except the arcade games and they always got like 2 votes total
[2017-04-23 02:48:08] <Lakituthequick> well excluding arcade
[2017-04-23 02:48:37] <Anton{Politoed}> 4the arcade ones got literally 0 votes last year
[2017-04-23 02:49:00] <shoutmon> 7when they open the mario kart theme park ride will we add that
[2017-04-23 02:49:00] <Lakituthequick> saw an article recently about the return of arcade halls
[2017-04-23 02:49:05] <Lakituthequick> well not in these polls
[2017-04-23 02:49:43] <Lakituthequick> but yeah m2 looks good
[2017-04-23 02:50:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M3 Favorite Mario Platformer (Super Mario 64/Super Mario 64 DS, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Super Mario Bros., Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario World, New Super Mario Bros., New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Super Mario Sunshine, Super Mario 3D Land, New Super Mario Bros. U/New Super Luigi U, Super Mario 3D World, Super Mario Run)
[2017-04-23 02:50:30] <turb> is this already all inclusive
[2017-04-23 02:50:38] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we chopped off nsmb2
[2017-04-23 02:50:39] <turb> oh i guess beyond smb2 but writeins
[2017-04-23 02:50:39] <Lakituthequick> i think i saw SMR listed in worst spinoff as well
[2017-04-23 02:50:41] <turb> and that
[2017-04-23 02:50:59] <GBAToad> so skip
[2017-04-23 02:51:01] <Lakituthequick> so what is SMR
[2017-04-23 02:51:08] <GBAToad> super mario run
[2017-04-23 02:51:10] <GBAToad> ?
[2017-04-23 02:51:11] <shoutmon> 7super mario run is the iphone game
[2017-04-23 02:51:11] <Lakituthequick> a plaformer, a spinoff or both
[2017-04-23 02:51:24] <shoutmon> 7why cant it be both
[2017-04-23 02:51:29] <shoutmon> 7yoshi's island is both
[2017-04-23 02:51:34] <Lakituthequick> well it fells a bit weird
[2017-04-23 02:51:44] <Lakituthequick> it technically makes sense but __
[2017-04-23 02:51:47] <turb> can't it be both
[2017-04-23 02:51:52] <turb> i mean it literally is both isnt it
[2017-04-23 02:51:58] <Lakituthequick> yeah
[2017-04-23 02:52:02] <Anton{Politoed}> 4that's nintendo's fault for making only platformers the main games
[2017-04-23 02:52:12] <shoutmon> 7spinoff isnt a very clearly defined term but i guess so
[2017-04-23 02:52:16] <turb> a lot of things this year have been nintendo's fault if i'm perfectly honest
[2017-04-23 02:52:23] <turb> see: favorite dlc
[2017-04-23 02:52:24] <Lord_Bowser> yeah it's too much of both to make it specifically one or the other 
[2017-04-23 02:52:29] <Lord_Bowser> also true
[2017-04-23 02:52:34] <Anton{Politoed}> 4when's mario fps
[2017-04-23 02:52:34] <GBAToad> these whole awards are nintendos fault
[2017-04-23 02:52:42] <turb> let's break away from nintendo next year and host the sony awards
[2017-04-23 02:52:52] <Anton{Politoed}> 4remember niwa awards
[2017-04-23 02:52:53] <GBAToad> favourite dead ip
[2017-04-23 02:53:02] <Lakituthequick> niwa awards i dont remover
[2017-04-23 02:53:03] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M4 Favorite Mario Kart Course (Bowser's Castle (Mario Kart 64), Rainbow Road (Mario Kart 7), Wario Colosseum, Waluigi Pinball, Airship Fortress, Mushroom Gorge,  Coconut Mall, Maple Treeway, Electrodrome, N64 Rainbow Road (Mario Kart 8), Mount Wario, Mute City, Animal Crossing, Baby Park, Big Blue)
[2017-04-23 02:53:06] <turb> i remember niwa awards and now i want to forget them again
[2017-04-23 02:53:07] <Gamefreak75> its time for pikmin awards
[2017-04-23 02:53:08] <turb> this looks good
[2017-04-23 02:53:09] <Gamefreak75> tbh
[2017-04-23 02:53:12] <Lakituthequick> *remember
[2017-04-23 02:53:21] <turb> i hate redoing this award and they didnt add any new conventional courses to deluxe
[2017-04-23 02:53:34] <Lakituthequick> add all rainbow roads (dont)
[2017-04-23 02:53:35] <Lord_Bowser> it's good
[2017-04-23 02:53:39] <GBAToad> we dont need to consider mk8 deluxe for this award because no new racing tracks
[2017-04-23 02:53:40] <dia> set
[2017-04-23 02:53:44] <GBAToad> but the next one......
[2017-04-23 02:53:45] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we spent like a full 35 minutes doing nothing to this award when we originally did it
[2017-04-23 02:53:49] <Anton{Politoed}> 4lots of votes to do nothing
[2017-04-23 02:54:07] <shoutmon> 7there was a mario fps on the snes
[2017-04-23 02:54:12] <dia> i vote to hold a vote to keep
[2017-04-23 02:54:17] <dia> and do nothing
[2017-04-23 02:54:20] <Anton{Politoed}> 4when's mario moba
[2017-04-23 02:54:29] <GBAToad> mario moab
[2017-04-23 02:54:31] <shoutmon> 7soon i hope
[2017-04-23 02:54:33] <dia> is there not a mario moba
[2017-04-23 02:54:35] <Lakituthequick> gonna metion one thing though
[2017-04-23 02:54:38] <Lakituthequick> sorry anton
[2017-04-23 02:54:41] <Lord_Bowser> when's mario metroidvania
[2017-04-23 02:54:42] <Lakituthequick> identifiers
[2017-04-23 02:54:48] <Gamefreak75> wheres my mario srpg
[2017-04-23 02:55:06] <turb> they probably literally would have enough enemies for a mario moba
[2017-04-23 02:55:07] <dia> is there a mario shootemup
[2017-04-23 02:55:10] <Anton{Politoed}> 4they should be shortened
[2017-04-23 02:55:14] <Lakituthequick> like battle course (M22) uses console abbriviations 
[2017-04-23 02:55:18] <Lakituthequick> this use game names
[2017-04-23 02:55:22] <turb> isnt battle course actually
[2017-04-23 02:55:26] <GBAToad> mario sorority girls beach volleyball
[2017-04-23 02:55:27] <turb> the one going out of line
[2017-04-23 02:55:34] <turb> i just slapped fucking whatever on the doc
[2017-04-23 02:55:35] <Anton{Politoed}> 4yeah it'd be M22 we need to fix
[2017-04-23 02:55:41] <turb> oops
[2017-04-23 02:55:58] <dia> ok
[2017-04-23 02:55:59] <Lakituthequick> then i'll recite what i just said when we get to m22
[2017-04-23 02:56:03] <GBAToad> is there a reason that the mario kart track award and battle course award are so distant
[2017-04-23 02:56:04] <Lord_Bowser> mario dating sim
[2017-04-23 02:56:04] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but I think we gotta change things like Mario Kart 7 to MK7
[2017-04-23 02:56:19] <turb> we were replacing an award straight up
[2017-04-23 02:56:30] <turb> so it took the old numbering
[2017-04-23 02:56:33] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and yeah M22 was the vacancy
[2017-04-23 02:56:43] <turb> also im fine with shortening them
[2017-04-23 02:56:58] <shoutmon> 7i think it makes more sense to use console abbreviations since thats how nintendo does it
[2017-04-23 02:56:59] <dia> yeah thats fine, as long as its understandable
[2017-04-23 02:57:08] <shoutmon> 7and how the wiki does it tb
[2017-04-23 02:57:09] <dia> its just all mario karts right
[2017-04-23 02:57:10] <shoutmon> 7h
[2017-04-23 02:57:16] <turb> im fine with eithr
[2017-04-23 02:57:24] <turb> just as long as the nominees are understandable
[2017-04-23 02:57:41] <Anton{Politoed}> 4really???
[2017-04-23 02:57:46] <shoutmon> 7yes
[2017-04-23 02:57:47] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it seems like an extra step, though
[2017-04-23 02:57:55] <GBAToad> its just me being stupid but it does kinda look out of place in comparison to other awards which are grouped together pretty well so would it be sin to shift it up and push the other awards down a number
[2017-04-23 02:57:56] <Anton{Politoed}> 4referencing the console and then having to remember which game that was
[2017-04-23 02:58:02] <dia> whats the console abbreviations?
[2017-04-23 02:58:17] <Anton{Politoed}> 4tbh the other awards being grouped together well is a fluke
[2017-04-23 02:58:22] <turb> yeah like
[2017-04-23 02:58:29] <turb> theyre all randomized at presentation time anyway
[2017-04-23 02:58:33] <Meta_Knight> 10NES SNES N64 GCN WII DS GB GBA GBC as far as im aware dia
[2017-04-23 02:58:41] <turb> so in the end its only really an aesthetic thing on the full list
[2017-04-23 02:58:43] <Anton{Politoed}> 4like F2-5 or whatever it is all being related is because we nuked a bunch of awards and were just simply able to
[2017-04-23 02:59:04] <dia> oh, so 
[2017-04-23 02:59:12] <dia> well, as long as the nominees are clear
[2017-04-23 02:59:28] <dia> are there a lot of mario karts on the same consoles?
[2017-04-23 02:59:46] <GBAToad> usually its one per console
[2017-04-23 02:59:47] <Lakituthequick> excluding vc, no
[2017-04-23 02:59:50] <Nyrie> there are none on the same consoles
[2017-04-23 02:59:51] <Anton{Politoed}> 4this really only affects 3 nominees, actually
[2017-04-23 02:59:57] <Anton{Politoed}> 4going from game to console
[2017-04-23 03:00:43] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so if that's the standard with courses then I guess I'll do that really quick
[2017-04-23 03:00:45] <dia> should we add the game abbreviation for the 3 that have an issue?
[2017-04-23 03:01:10] <Anton{Politoed}> 4mk7 was just 3ds right
[2017-04-23 03:01:15] <shoutmon> 7rainbow road (n64) (mario kart 64)
[2017-04-23 03:01:19] <Anton{Politoed}> 4or do I have to say 2ds
[2017-04-23 03:01:24] <shoutmon> 7thats the format we should use
[2017-04-23 03:01:26] <Nyrie> the only one i could see being confusing is n64 rainbow road
[2017-04-23 03:01:30] <shoutmon> 7its the nly way  bea clear
[2017-04-23 03:01:31] <Nyrie> because it would be
[2017-04-23 03:01:34] <Anton{Politoed}> 4that looks awful
[2017-04-23 03:01:38] <shoutmon> 72ds and 3ds are the same thing
[2017-04-23 03:01:39] <Nyrie> N64 Rainbow Road (Wii U)
[2017-04-23 03:01:46] <GBAToad> yeah that
[2017-04-23 03:01:52] <Lakituthequick> 3ds came earlier so use that
[2017-04-23 03:01:55] <shoutmon> 7no i was bing sarcastic...
[2017-04-23 03:02:06] <Anton{Politoed}> 4anyways I did it
[2017-04-23 03:02:11] <Anton{Politoed}> 4is that it with M4
[2017-04-23 03:02:26] <dia> im fine 
[2017-04-23 03:02:29] <GBAToad> y
[2017-04-23 03:02:31] <Lord_Bowser> y
[2017-04-23 03:02:33] <Meta_Knight> 10y
[2017-04-23 03:02:33] <dia> y
[2017-04-23 03:02:46] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M5 Favorite DK Game (Donkey Kong Country, Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest, Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble!, Donkey Kong 64, Diddy Kong Racing, Donkey Kong Country Returns/Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D, Donkey Kong Jr. Math, Donkey Kong (Arcade), Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, Donkey Kong Jungle Beat,
[2017-04-23 03:02:46] <shoutmon> 7y
[2017-04-23 03:02:48] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Donkey Kong '94 (Game Boy))
[2017-04-23 03:02:48] <turb> y
[2017-04-23 03:02:52] <turb> f
[2017-04-23 03:02:53] <Meta_Knight> 10y
[2017-04-23 03:02:55] <turb> y
[2017-04-23 03:03:04] <shoutmon> 7also my connection is cutting out so i might leave randomly 
[2017-04-23 03:03:12] <shoutmon> 7sorry
[2017-04-23 03:03:27] <Lakituthequick> well 
[2017-04-23 03:03:28] <Anton{Politoed}> 4i'm marking you as unexcused absent
[2017-04-23 03:03:32] <Lakituthequick> dk94
[2017-04-23 03:03:40] <shoutmon> 7is the titl "donkey king '94 (game body)" like tht on purpose
[2017-04-23 03:03:46] <Lakituthequick> actually just called Donkey Kong
[2017-04-23 03:03:52] <Lakituthequick> but on game boy
[2017-04-23 03:03:56] <Anton{Politoed}> 4that's just how it has been since forever and no one's told me to change it
[2017-04-23 03:04:04] <Meta_Knight> 10but its more extensive than the original donkey kong
[2017-04-23 03:04:09] <Lakituthequick> well i think we are discussing this every year so
[2017-04-23 03:04:21] <Anton{Politoed}> 4until right now
[2017-04-23 03:04:29] <shoutmon> 7just as long as we're dong it on purpose i dont care
[2017-04-23 03:04:40] <Anton{Politoed}> 4there's Donkey Kong (Arcade)
[2017-04-23 03:04:48] <Anton{Politoed}> 4couldn't we lob off the '94
[2017-04-23 03:04:57] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Donkey Kong (Game Boy)
[2017-04-23 03:04:58] <Lakituthequick> exactly
[2017-04-23 03:05:02] <turb> sure
[2017-04-23 03:05:03] <Meta_Knight> 10i would be against that
[2017-04-23 03:05:06] <shoutmon> 7thats th offical title
[2017-04-23 03:05:11] <Meta_Knight> 10dk94 is very different from it but _
[2017-04-23 03:05:11] <turb> i mean yeah
[2017-04-23 03:05:12] <Lord_Bowser> i wouldn't mind it 
[2017-04-23 03:05:18] <turb> 94 isnt int the title is it
[2017-04-23 03:05:19] <Meta_Knight> 10its not that big a deal
[2017-04-23 03:05:20] <Anton{Politoed}> 4are there two donkey kongs for game boy
[2017-04-23 03:05:25] <Anton{Politoed}> 4or just arcade/game boy
[2017-04-23 03:05:27] <Lord_Bowser> i mean mk that is the official title
[2017-04-23 03:05:29] <turb> i mean there is donkey kong (arcade) on the award already mk
[2017-04-23 03:05:32] <Lord_Bowser> also no that's it
[2017-04-23 03:05:35] <turb> its pretty clear which is which
[2017-04-23 03:05:38] <Meta_Knight> 10fair enough
[2017-04-23 03:05:54] <shoutmon> 7should it be uh
[2017-04-23 03:05:59] <shoutmon> 7arcade/nes?
[2017-04-23 03:06:11] <Lord_Bowser> i was about to mention that 22 gdi
[2017-04-23 03:06:17] <shoutmon> 7i think thee was something weird about that
[2017-04-23 03:06:23] <shoutmon> 7like one leve was missing in one vern
[2017-04-23 03:06:25] <shoutmon> 7or somehting
[2017-04-23 03:06:33] <Lord_Bowser> oh lemme double check
[2017-04-23 03:06:52] <Meta_Knight> 10there was a nes cart thats both donkey kong and donkey kong jr on it
[2017-04-23 03:06:58] <Meta_Knight> 10idk if there was one with just donkey kong
[2017-04-23 03:07:10] <Anton{Politoed}> 4"Donkey Kong has kidnapped the beautiful Lady (Pauline in the NES conversion) to a dangerous construction site."
[2017-04-23 03:07:18] <Anton{Politoed}> 4god damn SJWs giving the damsels actual names
[2017-04-23 03:07:21] <Anton{Politoed}> 4humanizing them
[2017-04-23 03:07:24] <Lakituthequick> "version of the game was also created later for the Nintendo Entertainment System, Nintendo's first home console, under Arcade Classics Series."
[2017-04-23 03:07:32] <Lakituthequick> so 'A version'
[2017-04-23 03:07:39] <Lakituthequick> not a straight port
[2017-04-23 03:07:46] <Lord_Bowser> oh yeah
[2017-04-23 03:07:54] <Lord_Bowser> the nes version doesn't have 50m
[2017-04-23 03:07:56] <Lakituthequick> thats jus what im reading in the intro though so
[2017-04-23 03:08:06] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I don't want there to be 7 Donkey Kongs on this award just because they gave Pauline a name in one version
[2017-04-23 03:08:08] <shoutmon> 7i dont think theres a difference in infomal usage
[2017-04-23 03:08:33] <Lakituthequick> anton the awards is litterally 'Favorite DK Game' so
[2017-04-23 03:08:35] <Meta_Knight> 10anton put in donkey kong (featured in donkey kong 64 as that one bs minigame) (donkey kong 64) /s
[2017-04-23 03:08:36] <turb> i feel like when people are talking about original donkey kong
[2017-04-23 03:08:41] <shoutmon> 7no tis because of waht lb id
[2017-04-23 03:08:42] <dia> is it essentially the same game tho
[2017-04-23 03:08:45] <turb> theyre referring either to arcade or nes
[2017-04-23 03:08:51] <turb> regardless of uh
[2017-04-23 03:08:54] <turb> level differences
[2017-04-23 03:09:14] <shoutmon> 7also im just sayinthink we should specifathat nominee covers both sions
[2017-04-23 03:09:20] <shoutmon> 7not that i think we should add another nominee
[2017-04-23 03:09:28] <Anton{Politoed}> 4 21:08	Lakituthequick	anton the awards is litterally 'Favorite DK Game' so
[2017-04-23 03:09:29] <shoutmon> 7god dammit
[2017-04-23 03:09:35] <shoutmon> 7its really hard to ty with ilag
[2017-04-23 03:09:43] <Anton{Politoed}> 4no my point is I don't want there to be a new nominee for every variant of the single game "Donkey Kong"
[2017-04-23 03:09:47] <dia> is the current nominees confusing to voters?
[2017-04-23 03:09:49] <Lakituthequick> so change the name from Donkey Kong (arcade) to Donkey Kong
[2017-04-23 03:09:57] <turb> why...
[2017-04-23 03:10:05] <turb> why not just change it to arcade/nes
[2017-04-23 03:10:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'm not removing arcade from it
[2017-04-23 03:10:10] <turb> those are the two most relevant versions
[2017-04-23 03:10:10] <Anton{Politoed}> 4yeah what turb said
[2017-04-23 03:10:19] <dia> im fine with turbs idea
[2017-04-23 03:10:27] <Lord_Bowser> yeah there's no reason to remove arcade
[2017-04-23 03:10:32] <dia> the main goal is to make it clear to voters yeah
[2017-04-23 03:10:34] <Lord_Bowser> it would make it more confusion
[2017-04-23 03:10:42] <Lord_Bowser> confusing*
[2017-04-23 03:10:44] <dia> its essentially the same thing
[2017-04-23 03:11:04] <Anton{Politoed}> 4ok i did that
[2017-04-23 03:11:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4unless everyone hates it a lot
[2017-04-23 03:11:15] <Lord_Bowser> i don't 
[2017-04-23 03:11:23] <shoutmon> 7i like it a lot
[2017-04-23 03:11:28] <turb> i like it
[2017-04-23 03:11:40] <GBAToad> I HATE IT ANTON CHANGE IT BACK CHANGE IT BACK
[2017-04-23 03:11:42] <GBAToad> no
[2017-04-23 03:11:53] <GBAToad> i like it
[2017-04-23 03:11:54] <Lord_Bowser> ♡ You like this
[2017-04-23 03:12:01] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M6 Favorite Wario Game (Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3, Wario Land 3, Wario Land 4, WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Party Game$!, WarioWare: Twisted!, WarioWare: Touched!, WarioWare: Smooth Moves, Wario: Master of Disguise, Wario Land: Shake It!, WarioWare: D.I.Y., Wario World, Game & Wario, Wario Land II)
[2017-04-23 03:12:30] <turb> y
[2017-04-23 03:12:32] <Meta_Knight> 10keep
[2017-04-23 03:12:38] <Lakituthequick> Inc.: Mega Party Game$! is a nice game
[2017-04-23 03:12:41] <Lakituthequick> (ok)
[2017-04-23 03:13:03] <Anton{Politoed}> 4yeah that's a thing
[2017-04-23 03:13:05] <Lakituthequick> (there is a literal comma in that name, lol)
[2017-04-23 03:13:10] <Lord_Bowser> the placement of wl2 bothers me but that's just petty probably so y
[2017-04-23 03:13:12] <GBAToad> "look we can use punctuation"
[2017-04-23 03:13:17] <GBAToad> warioware devs
[2017-04-23 03:13:21] <turb> oh yeah to also be the guy who doesn't like being anal about semantics but is being anal about semantics right now
[2017-04-23 03:13:32] <turb> is wario land ii definitely stylized as that
[2017-04-23 03:13:38] <turb> instead of wario land 2
[2017-04-23 03:13:43] <Lord_Bowser> lemme see
[2017-04-23 03:13:44] <turb> i feel like this was probably discussed but i forgot
[2017-04-23 03:13:52] <Anton{Politoed}> 4tbf in the polls these are all going to be on individual lines so that comma break in mega party games isn't going to be an issue
[2017-04-23 03:14:00] <Meta_Knight> 10it might be a thing ilke with metroid II
[2017-04-23 03:14:01] <Anton{Politoed}> 4unless turb and I derp super hard and register them separately as we type them in
[2017-04-23 03:14:06] <Lord_Bowser> wiki confirms it is, turb
[2017-04-23 03:14:10] <turb> gr8
[2017-04-23 03:14:12] <Meta_Knight> 10where super metroid and fusion both to refer to themself as 3 and 4
[2017-04-23 03:14:17] <Meta_Knight> 10but 2 is always written as II 
[2017-04-23 03:14:23] <GBAToad> SMA2 for biggest missed opportunity ples
[2017-04-23 03:14:25] <turb> also no ill hopefully remember to not put it on as inc.: mega party games
[2017-04-23 03:14:32] <shoutmon> 7and zelda
[2017-04-23 03:14:36] <Lord_Bowser> gba i think that was sma4 :p
[2017-04-23 03:14:39] <Meta_Knight> 10yeah 
[2017-04-23 03:14:44] <turb> sma4 was a national treasure
[2017-04-23 03:14:47] <shoutmon> 7it must be a nintendo thing
[2017-04-23 03:14:53] <Lakituthequick> i actually went and figured out where the f11 issue came from two weeks ago
[2017-04-23 03:15:01] <Lakituthequick> may come back to it then
[2017-04-23 03:15:07] <Meta_Knight> 1022 they'd probably call you either II II or XXII
[2017-04-23 03:15:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4whose fault was it
[2017-04-23 03:15:10] <Anton{Politoed}> 4was it 22's
[2017-04-23 03:15:12] <Anton{Politoed}> 4can I fire him
[2017-04-23 03:15:12] <Lakituthequick> yes
[2017-04-23 03:15:18] <Anton{Politoed}> 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[2017-04-23 03:15:36] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M7 Favorite Yoshi Game (Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, Yoshi's Island DS, Tetris Attack, Yoshi's Story, Yoshi Touch & Go, Yoshi's Cookie, Yoshi, Yoshi Topsy-Turvy, Yoshi's New Island, Yoshi's Woolly World/Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World)
[2017-04-23 03:15:38] <Lakituthequick> (no joke though it happened when anton was away)
[2017-04-23 03:15:46] <Meta_Knight> 10this is fine
[2017-04-23 03:15:49] <shoutmon> 7youre just mad because i banned you
[2017-04-23 03:15:59] <turb> y
[2017-04-23 03:16:04] <GBAToad> man i hate how yoshis woolly world is formatted but it cant be helped
[2017-04-23 03:16:14] <GBAToad> nintendo make your ports less wordy next time
[2017-04-23 03:16:15] <Lord_Bowser> y
[2017-04-23 03:16:17] <GBAToad> y
[2017-04-23 03:16:49] <Lakituthequick> tbf the port isnt even that wordy
[2017-04-23 03:16:56] <Lakituthequick> pasting them in the same award is
[2017-04-23 03:17:10] <shoutmon> 7yeah just calle it 'poochy' nex time
[2017-04-23 03:17:13] <Lakituthequick> list is ok
[2017-04-23 03:17:15] <shoutmon> 7the other words dont matter
[2017-04-23 03:17:19] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M8 Favorite Art Style (Retro style sprites, Yoshi's Island style, Donkey Kong Country style, Main series 3D style, Paper Mario style, Mario & Luigi style, Yoshi's Story style, Yoshi's Woolly World style, Wario Land: Shake It! style, Super Mario RPG style, Super Mario Strikers style)
[2017-04-23 03:17:34] <turb> y
[2017-04-23 03:17:35] <Meta_Knight> 10yup
[2017-04-23 03:17:36] <Lakituthequick> style, style, style and style
[2017-04-23 03:17:37] <GBAToad> looks good m8
[2017-04-23 03:17:52] <Lakituthequick> strikes me but it works
[2017-04-23 03:18:22] <Lord_Bowser> y
[2017-04-23 03:18:33] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'd say they wouldn't be necessary but
[2017-04-23 03:18:42] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it puts emphasis on how that game's style is
[2017-04-23 03:18:45] <Anton{Politoed}> 4instead of the game title
[2017-04-23 03:19:05] <Anton{Politoed}> 4plus there's things like Paper Mario where it covers the whole series and not just that game
[2017-04-23 03:19:24] <turb> ^
[2017-04-23 03:19:30] <Lakituthequick> wouldn't 'paper mario series' work in that case
[2017-04-23 03:20:10] <Lakituthequick> anyway i wont suggest changing every name on this award unless it hits a nerve for everyone
[2017-04-23 03:20:16] <Anton{Politoed}> 4technically yes, but not really any different than it already does
[2017-04-23 03:21:03] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'll keep an eye on it, though, if it looks like it generates confusion for the voters
[2017-04-23 03:21:13] <shoutmon> 7change style to aesthetic
[2017-04-23 03:21:27] <Meta_Knight> 10that would probably kill turb
[2017-04-23 03:21:35] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M9 Favorite DLC (The Legend of Zelda × Mario Kart 8, Animal Crossing × Mario Kart 8, Mercedes-Benz × Mario Kart 8, New Super Luigi U, Peach's Castle stage (SSB4), Super Mario Maker stage (SSB4), Super Mario Mash-Up Pack (Minecraft: Wii U Edition))
[2017-04-23 03:21:35] <Lakituthequick> [insert weird unicode a la gbatoad here]
[2017-04-23 03:21:41] <turb> dddddddd
[2017-04-23 03:21:50] <Lakituthequick> ho boy this one
[2017-04-23 03:22:14] <Lakituthequick> it actally is good now i think
[2017-04-23 03:22:16] <turb> this one is probably fine
[2017-04-23 03:22:18] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we decided case-by-case for this one
[2017-04-23 03:22:37] <Anton{Politoed}> 4since wholesale applications for merging/splitting would be gr8 for one, but awful for another
[2017-04-23 03:23:25] <shoutmon> 7i thought we just deleted the merged options since they were unloved anyway
[2017-04-23 03:23:39] <Anton{Politoed}> 4that too
[2017-04-23 03:23:52] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so I guess move on since we blew up our only concerns
[2017-04-23 03:24:05] <Meta_Knight> 10support
[2017-04-23 03:24:22] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M10 Favorite Partner Developer (AlphaDream (Mario & Luigi series), Intelligent Systems (Paper Mario series), Hudson Soft (Mario Party 1-8, Mario Party DS), Camelot Software Planning (Mario Tennis series, Mario Golf series), Next Level Games (Mario Strikers series, Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon), Bandai Namco Entertainment (Mario Baseball series),
[2017-04-23 03:24:27] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Good-Feel (Yoshi's Woolly World), Square Enix (Super Mario RPG, Mario Sports Mix), Sega (Mario & Sonic series), Retro Studios (Mario Kart 7, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze), Rare Ltd. (Donkey Kong Country series, Donkey Kong Land series), 1-UP Studio (Super Mario 3D Land, Super Mario 3D World), Nd Cube (Mario Party 9-10, Mario Party: Star Rush),
[2017-04-23 03:24:32] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Arika (Dr. Mario series))
[2017-04-23 03:24:52] <Lakituthequick> this award is so big it needs three messages to post
[2017-04-23 03:25:08] <GBAToad> hal is kill
[2017-04-23 03:25:11] <turb> add jupiter
[2017-04-23 03:25:12] <turb> :^)
[2017-04-23 03:25:17] <turb> no but just move on i think
[2017-04-23 03:25:20] <GBAToad> add konami
[2017-04-23 03:25:28] <Lord_Bowser> add yami's studio
[2017-04-23 03:25:34] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M11 Favorite Major Character (Mario, Luigi, Princess Peach, Yoshi, Wario, Donkey Kong, Bowser, Rosalina, Bowser Jr., Toad)
[2017-04-23 03:25:37] <Lakituthequick> add cw games
[2017-04-23 03:25:40] <Lakituthequick> (dont)
[2017-04-23 03:25:41] <Anton{Politoed}> 4when's deep lore backstory for kamek
[2017-04-23 03:25:44] <Meta_Knight> 10move on
[2017-04-23 03:25:48] <Anton{Politoed}> 4to push him to M11
[2017-04-23 03:25:53] <Meta_Knight> 10in kamek's new spinoff game
[2017-04-23 03:25:59] <shoutmon> 7poochy
[2017-04-23 03:26:02] <GBAToad> kameks storybook
[2017-04-23 03:26:04] <Meta_Knight> 10it will be a game like sims or something
[2017-04-23 03:26:07] <Meta_Knight> 10where you raise a kid
[2017-04-23 03:26:09] <Meta_Knight> 10but its  bowser
[2017-04-23 03:26:12] <GBAToad> then baby kamek appears in mk9
[2017-04-23 03:26:16] <GBAToad> and ruins the whole thing
[2017-04-23 03:26:17] <Anton{Politoed}> 4cute and cute
[2017-04-23 03:26:27] <shoutmon> 7i thought you were going to say, where you torture unsuspecting people with divine power
[2017-04-23 03:26:36] <Lord_Bowser> lmao
[2017-04-23 03:26:37] <shoutmon> 7thats what i think of when i think of the sims
[2017-04-23 03:26:41] <Meta_Knight> 10kamek doing that would also appease anton
[2017-04-23 03:26:42] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M12 Favorite Supporting Character (Princess Daisy, Waluigi, Toadsworth, Diddy Kong, Professor E. Gadd, Toadette, Captain Toad, Birdo, Kamek, Poochy)
[2017-04-23 03:26:50] <Lakituthequick> i have notes on this one
[2017-04-23 03:26:58] <Lakituthequick> E. => Elvin?
[2017-04-23 03:26:59] <GBAToad> yep its good
[2017-04-23 03:27:03] <shoutmon> 7no
[2017-04-23 03:27:04] <GBAToad> also no
[2017-04-23 03:27:06] <Meta_Knight> 10no
[2017-04-23 03:27:07] <Lord_Bowser> no
[2017-04-23 03:27:08] <shoutmon> 7hes never ever called that
[2017-04-23 03:27:12] <GBAToad> no
[2017-04-23 03:27:13] <turb> no
[2017-04-23 03:27:27] <Lakituthequick> its the name for the wiki page so i thought it note it
[2017-04-23 03:27:27] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Charles Entertainment Cheese
[2017-04-23 03:27:29] <shoutmon> 7on the other hand, we could rename him dr. o. m. g.
[2017-04-23 03:27:38] <shoutmon> 7is it really...
[2017-04-23 03:27:41] <GBAToad> with bibbangs
[2017-04-23 03:27:44] <Meta_Knight> 10that would be like if suddenly we changed daisy to Princess D. 
[2017-04-23 03:27:46] <shoutmon> 7thats bad
[2017-04-23 03:28:02] <shoutmon> 7that shouldnt be like that im going to go complain to the wikki staff
[2017-04-23 03:28:02] <Lord_Bowser> it is 22,,,
[2017-04-23 03:28:09] <Lord_Bowser> do it
[2017-04-23 03:28:11] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M13 Favorite Level Theme (Grasslands, Desert, Snow/Ice, Mountain, Underground, Beach, Sky, Jungle, Space, Fire, Ghost Houses, Underwater, Castle, Airship, Factory/Industrial, Carnival, City/Town)
[2017-04-23 03:28:12] <shoutmon> 7(actually im not)
[2017-04-23 03:28:18] <GBAToad> the whole article also never uses elvin from the looks of it
[2017-04-23 03:28:20] <GBAToad> Bad
[2017-04-23 03:28:32] <Meta_Knight> 10this award is fine
[2017-04-23 03:28:39] <turb> im wiki staff
[2017-04-23 03:28:43] <turb> idk who changed it to that
[2017-04-23 03:28:50] <turb> i'm gonna go block them
[2017-04-23 03:28:52] <turb> also move on
[2017-04-23 03:28:52] <Lord_Bowser> ghost house being plural bothers me
[2017-04-23 03:29:07] <Meta_Knight> 10grasslands is plural
[2017-04-23 03:29:19] <Lord_Bowser> idk tho like castle is singular
[2017-04-23 03:29:31] <Lakituthequick> those two are plural, the rest isnt
[2017-04-23 03:29:40] <Anton{Politoed}> 4those are the only plural ones and it doesn't matter if they're suddenly not, so
[2017-04-23 03:29:42] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'll change that
[2017-04-23 03:29:48] <Lord_Bowser> okay
[2017-04-23 03:29:53] <turb> sure
[2017-04-23 03:29:57] <Lord_Bowser> move on then
[2017-04-23 03:30:02] <turb> i think that should be it for this though
[2017-04-23 03:30:06] <turb> the nominees themselves are fine
[2017-04-23 03:30:14] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M14 Favorite Species (Goombas, Koopa Troopas, Boos, Shy Guys, Chain Chomps, Bob-ombs, Bullet Bills, Dry Bones, Hammer Bros., Wigglers, Chargin' Chucks, Lakitus, Yoshis, Toads, Lumas, Magikoopas)
[2017-04-23 03:30:15] <shoutmon> 7did we remove athletic from this
[2017-04-23 03:30:26] <GBAToad> aesthetic
[2017-04-23 03:30:31] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we didn't touch M13
[2017-04-23 03:30:36] <Anton{Politoed}> 4if it was removed that was done last year
[2017-04-23 03:30:39] <shoutmon> 7oh
[2017-04-23 03:30:39] <Lakituthequick> these are all plural
[2017-04-23 03:31:05] <shoutmon> 7is athletic a level theme
[2017-04-23 03:31:07] <Anton{Politoed}> 4wait nvm this is new as of last year
[2017-04-23 03:31:14] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so it couldn't have been removed last year
[2017-04-23 03:31:21] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but it was also never on it
[2017-04-23 03:31:24] <Lakituthequick> athletic is a way of platforming and may appear in all styles
[2017-04-23 03:31:31] <Meta_Knight> 10its a music theme but it wouild be to tough to distinguish an athletic level on looks alone
[2017-04-23 03:31:48] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so
[2017-04-23 03:31:54] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M14 Favorite Species (Goombas, Koopa Troopas, Boos, Shy Guys, Chain Chomps, Bob-ombs, Bullet Bills, Dry Bones, Hammer Bros., Wigglers, Chargin' Chucks, Lakitus, Yoshis, Toads, Lumas, Magikoopas)
[2017-04-23 03:31:57] <Meta_Knight> 10m14 is fine
[2017-04-23 03:31:59] <Anton{Politoed}> 4as much as it disgusts me
[2017-04-23 03:32:12] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Humans is a valid suggestion
[2017-04-23 03:32:16] <Lakituthequick> wat
[2017-04-23 03:32:20] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it was one of the highest write-ins
[2017-04-23 03:32:21] <Lord_Bowser> what,
[2017-04-23 03:32:24] <GBAToad> AHA
[2017-04-23 03:32:25] <shoutmon> 7how many votes did it get lol
[2017-04-23 03:32:28] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and has been suggested from outside the committee
[2017-04-23 03:32:33] <GBAToad> by whom
[2017-04-23 03:32:39] <Anton{Politoed}> 4yoshi876
[2017-04-23 03:32:40] <Meta_Knight> 10that sounds so stupid though
[2017-04-23 03:32:42] <Anton{Politoed}> 4i trust him
[2017-04-23 03:32:42] <Meta_Knight> 10oh
[2017-04-23 03:32:44] <Meta_Knight> 10well
[2017-04-23 03:32:45] <Meta_Knight> 10i ean
[2017-04-23 03:32:47] <Meta_Knight> 10*mean
[2017-04-23 03:32:57] <Meta_Knight> 10i think that it will be more valid after odyssey comes out
[2017-04-23 03:33:01] <GBAToad> can we hold off until mk odyssey
[2017-04-23 03:33:10] <Lakituthequick> yeah
[2017-04-23 03:33:22] <Lord_Bowser> yeah save it for next year
[2017-04-23 03:33:23] <Meta_Knight> 10then there will actually be real humans
[2017-04-23 03:33:24] <GBAToad> i mean technically theyre still relevant
[2017-04-23 03:33:31] <Lakituthequick> unless mario and peach count id say leave it for now
[2017-04-23 03:33:34] <Anton{Politoed}> 4"A lot of the main characters (Mario, Luigi, Wario, etc.) are human, and quite a few appearing in the dic cartoons, so I'm not sure whether it'd be worth adding humans in as a favourite species"
[2017-04-23 03:33:35] <shoutmon> 7looking at the thing
[2017-04-23 03:33:42] <Lord_Bowser> add miis /s
[2017-04-23 03:33:43] <shoutmon> 7bowsers did better
[2017-04-23 03:33:49] <shoutmon> 7we should add bowsers if anything
[2017-04-23 03:33:53] <turb> i mean
[2017-04-23 03:33:54] * GBAToad strangles LB
[2017-04-23 03:33:58] <turb> im not opposed to adding bowsers i guess
[2017-04-23 03:34:01] <Lakituthequick> would that be like
[2017-04-23 03:34:05] <Lakituthequick> 'koopalings'
[2017-04-23 03:34:06] <turb> it would just have to be Bowser's species i guess
[2017-04-23 03:34:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I am because we don't have a word for it and it's also not a thing
[2017-04-23 03:34:19] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Humans are a thing, though
[2017-04-23 03:34:21] <GBAToad> Bowser (species)
[2017-04-23 03:34:26] <shoutmon> 7i mean theres several major characters of this species
[2017-04-23 03:34:34] <turb> i mean idk like i don't feel opposed to it since there's major characters of the species yeah
[2017-04-23 03:34:34] <shoutmon> 7at least 9
[2017-04-23 03:34:37] <Lakituthequick> was human every offically stated by intendo though
[2017-04-23 03:34:39] <turb> but it feels off because nintendo never fucking
[2017-04-23 03:34:46] <turb> gave a word for them
[2017-04-23 03:34:50] <GBAToad> wait for odyssey is my biggest take
[2017-04-23 03:34:54] <turb> so they could just fall under fucking koopas for all we know
[2017-04-23 03:34:57] <Meta_Knight> 10nintendo refers to yoshis as yoshis, toads as toads, etc
[2017-04-23 03:35:03] <turb> i'm fine with humans too i guess but yeah i'd prefer waiting for odyssey
[2017-04-23 03:35:11] <Meta_Knight> 10humas are a thing but its not like they say mario is of the humans species
[2017-04-23 03:35:14] <GBAToad> maybe nintendo will give them a weird species name like Donkians
[2017-04-23 03:35:16] <Lakituthequick> bowser is really koopa in japanese
[2017-04-23 03:35:18] <turb> Mario (species)
[2017-04-23 03:35:24] <Lakituthequick> then again koopa is nokonoko so
[2017-04-23 03:35:27] <Anton{Politoed}> 4why are we waiting on odyssey
[2017-04-23 03:35:41] <turb> because humans will be more relevant then i assume
[2017-04-23 03:35:41] <Lakituthequick> because new donk city
[2017-04-23 03:35:42] <Meta_Knight> 10because there's real humans as opposed to cartoony ones idk
[2017-04-23 03:35:47] <turb> i mean, i guess we can just add them in now if we want
[2017-04-23 03:35:48] <Anton{Politoed}> 4does odyssey suddenly canonize mario, peach, etc. as humans
[2017-04-23 03:35:50] <turb> because they do exist in golf
[2017-04-23 03:35:55] <turb> and mario, peach, etc. are all humans
[2017-04-23 03:35:58] <Meta_Knight> 10i guess thats true
[2017-04-23 03:36:05] <Anton{Politoed}> 4the wiki literally has a page for Humans
[2017-04-23 03:36:05] <GBAToad> golf is a good point as well
[2017-04-23 03:36:05] <turb> even if nintendo doesn't want to acknowledge that in any way for some reason
[2017-04-23 03:36:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4including Mario etc.
[2017-04-23 03:36:17] <Lakituthequick> to be fair mario and peach have vastly different aestics from donk humans
[2017-04-23 03:36:36] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I mean I'm gonna be 50000% sure to actively avoid voting for Humans
[2017-04-23 03:36:52] <Meta_Knight> 10yeah i think its fair to add it 
[2017-04-23 03:36:56] <Lord_Bowser> if humans gets in top 3 i will die inside 
[2017-04-23 03:36:58] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but I think it's a solid nominee option
[2017-04-23 03:37:04] <Lord_Bowser> but i guess it is a valid option 
[2017-04-23 03:37:05] <turb> yeah i guess
[2017-04-23 03:37:05] <GBAToad> i mean as people are bringing things up ive kinda backed down from my knee jerk reaction
[2017-04-23 03:37:11] <turb> it's still valid
[2017-04-23 03:37:12] <Meta_Knight> 10yeah
[2017-04-23 03:37:16] <Meta_Knight> 10per gbatoad
[2017-04-23 03:37:17] <turb> i feel ____ about it but that's a personal issue
[2017-04-23 03:37:21] <Lakituthequick> technically valid but it feels wrong somewhy
[2017-04-23 03:37:23] <shoutmon> 7can we just change the name of the award to 'favorite mario species' so real-world species are excluded lol
[2017-04-23 03:37:24] <turb> i'm just gonna write in duplighosts
[2017-04-23 03:37:29] <GBAToad> do we have a definition to only include enemy species
[2017-04-23 03:37:38] <GBAToad> or like what 22 said
[2017-04-23 03:37:44] <Lakituthequick> or do what 22 says
[2017-04-23 03:37:46] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Related Species Cave People Mii
[2017-04-23 03:37:47] <Anton{Politoed}> 4lol
[2017-04-23 03:37:57] <Lakituthequick> add Mii
[2017-04-23 03:37:59] <GBAToad> what
[2017-04-23 03:38:13] <dia> ah
[2017-04-23 03:38:17] <GBAToad> miis are not really mario though
[2017-04-23 03:38:23] <Anton{Politoed}> 4also I'm not going to change the award title and definition just to avoid humans
[2017-04-23 03:38:26] <Lakituthequick> are humans ?
[2017-04-23 03:38:29] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we can just decide to not add them
[2017-04-23 03:38:44] <Lakituthequick> yes please
[2017-04-23 03:38:58] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Add "Humans" to M14? (y/n/a)
[2017-04-23 03:39:02] <Meta_Knight> 10y
[2017-04-23 03:39:03] <Anton{Politoed}> 4almost typed vore
[2017-04-23 03:39:06] <GBAToad> y
[2017-04-23 03:39:08] <Lakituthequick> n
[2017-04-23 03:39:10] <Lord_Bowser> a
[2017-04-23 03:39:11] <shoutmon> 7n
[2017-04-23 03:39:12] <Meta_Knight> 10as much as it _ me i think its fair to add it
[2017-04-23 03:39:31] <turb> a
[2017-04-23 03:39:35] <Meta_Knight> 10best case scenario it does horribly and we remove it
[2017-04-23 03:39:39] <Lord_Bowser> 2-2-2
[2017-04-23 03:39:46] <GBAToad> per mk
[2017-04-23 03:40:18] <Anton{Politoed}> 4too close to call so they won't be added
[2017-04-23 03:40:27] <GBAToad> lets add inklings :^)
[2017-04-23 03:40:31] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but I'll just earmark it as a thing to check out how it performs
[2017-04-23 03:40:53] <turb> i mean idk ill switch from a to y
[2017-04-23 03:40:57] <turb> so 3-2-1
[2017-04-23 03:41:00] <dia> a
[2017-04-23 03:41:01] <turb> but that's still close af
[2017-04-23 03:41:20] <GBAToad> i still want nintendo to call them donkians
[2017-04-23 03:41:37] <shoutmon> 7im only willing to add humans if we add bowsers
[2017-04-23 03:41:38] <dia> fine y
[2017-04-23 03:41:43] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I hope they're like dream people in inception
[2017-04-23 03:41:45] <Lakituthequick> add Donkians to the dictionary 
[2017-04-23 03:41:59] <Anton{Politoed}> 4where they have no sentience beyond becoming angry at outsiders
[2017-04-23 03:42:10] <GBAToad> and skipping rope
[2017-04-23 03:42:20] <shoutmon> 7it doesnt make any sense to not add it, and then add something else that did worse
[2017-04-23 03:42:59] <dia> i mean sure
[2017-04-23 03:43:10] <Anton{Politoed}> 4that's not exactly a standard we have set for adding write-ins
[2017-04-23 03:43:13] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it's just how we usually go
[2017-04-23 03:43:30] <Lakituthequick> i say \|/ continue |>
[2017-04-23 03:43:46] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M15 Hardest Boss (Shadow Queen, Bonetail, Cackletta's Soul, Culex, Elder Princess Shroob, Bowser (Paper Mario), Bowser X (Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story), Smithy, The Master (Final Form), Dreamy Bowser, Phantamanta, Boolossus, Kamek & Paper Kamek)
[2017-04-23 03:43:52] <shoutmon> 7you say continue while dancing?
[2017-04-23 03:44:01] <Lakituthequick> why did we go for & again
[2017-04-23 03:44:23] <shoutmon> 7a ehow
[2017-04-23 03:44:25] <Lakituthequick> i tried ans art for the tbc sign in reverse but e
[2017-04-23 03:44:28] <shoutmon> 7god dammit
[2017-04-23 03:44:30] <Lakituthequick> *ansi
[2017-04-23 03:44:37] <shoutmon> 7is & bad somehow
[2017-04-23 03:44:44] <Anton{Politoed}> 4well in mario & luigi that's because that's the name of the game
[2017-04-23 03:44:50] <Anton{Politoed}> 4for Kamek & Paper Kamek, idk
[2017-04-23 03:44:55] <dia> isnt & part of the normal title
[2017-04-23 03:44:59] <Meta_Knight> 10i'd leave it
[2017-04-23 03:44:59] <Lakituthequick> well i have more &-points on my list
[2017-04-23 03:45:03] <Meta_Knight> 10less characters
[2017-04-23 03:45:11] <Lakituthequick> but wiki pages dont use that for combi-characters
[2017-04-23 03:45:22] <Anton{Politoed}> 4why should we change it
[2017-04-23 03:45:23] <Lakituthequick> Ashley and Red, not Ashley & Red
[2017-04-23 03:45:45] <turb> i mean i just
[2017-04-23 03:45:53] <GBAToad> :ashley:
[2017-04-23 03:45:56] <turb> i dont understand why this is a huge issue as long as people understand what they're voting for
[2017-04-23 03:46:00] <shoutmon> 7ashley and red share a wiki page?
[2017-04-23 03:46:00] <dia> i think its fine
[2017-04-23 03:46:01] <Lakituthequick> props preference but i like to follow the way wiki names things
[2017-04-23 03:46:02] <GBAToad> exactly
[2017-04-23 03:46:12] <GBAToad> per turb
[2017-04-23 03:46:23] <Lakituthequick> yeah ashley and red share a page
[2017-04-23 03:46:27] <Lakituthequick> https://www.mariowiki.com/Ashley_and_Red
[2017-04-23 03:46:35] <dia> doesnt the wiki use
[2017-04-23 03:46:37] <dia> &
[2017-04-23 03:46:37] <shoutmon> 7weird
[2017-04-23 03:46:44] <Lakituthequick> it doesnit dia
[2017-04-23 03:46:54] <Anton{Politoed}> 4the wiki gives nothing for "kamek and/& paper kamek"
[2017-04-23 03:46:58] <shoutmon> 7youd think with the wiki's stated policy of having a separate page for everything
[2017-04-23 03:46:59] <Meta_Knight> 10probalby because links cant handle that
[2017-04-23 03:47:05] <shoutmon> 7like every mission in smg
[2017-04-23 03:47:11] <Meta_Knight> 10becasue even in the shroom links ' gets turned nto %27 sometimes
[2017-04-23 03:47:12] <Lakituthequick> links can very well handle that
[2017-04-23 03:47:16] <Meta_Knight> 10but this wont be alink
[2017-04-23 03:47:21] <Meta_Knight> 10it should be fine with just &
[2017-04-23 03:47:23] <shoutmon> 7they would have separate pages for ashley and red
[2017-04-23 03:47:26] <shoutmon> 7oh well
[2017-04-23 03:47:30] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but with Ashley and Red I feel obligated to do that for kamek so
[2017-04-23 03:47:33] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'll just do that
[2017-04-23 03:47:47] <dia> ok
[2017-04-23 03:47:50] <Meta_Knight> 10okay
[2017-04-23 03:48:01] <Lakituthequick> i have about 6 &'s on my list to come
[2017-04-23 03:49:14] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I just removed a few so lol
[2017-04-23 03:49:16] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but
[2017-04-23 03:49:17] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M16 Favorite Item (Tanooki Suit/Super Leaf, Super Star/Starman, Fire Flower, Mega Mushroom, Metal Cap, Wing Cap, Bullet Bill, Propeller Mushroom, Penguin Suit, Cloud Flower, Cape Feather, Gold Flower, Cat Suit/Super Bell, Double Cherry, Super Horn, Mystery Mushroom)
[2017-04-23 03:49:25] <GBAToad> skip
[2017-04-23 03:49:32] <Meta_Knight> 10this seems okay
[2017-04-23 03:49:35] <turb> skip
[2017-04-23 03:49:41] <Lord_Bowser> !skip
[2017-04-23 03:49:43] <Lakituthequick> i have a point on this one too
[2017-04-23 03:49:55] <shoutmon> 7should it specify that its the smm mystery mushroom
[2017-04-23 03:50:00] <Lakituthequick> copy past:
[2017-04-23 03:50:00] <Lakituthequick> Order of slashed nominees, first the item and then the form you take on, or vice versa? 
[2017-04-23 03:50:00] <Lakituthequick> Super Star currently has it different from the other two.
[2017-04-23 03:50:00] <Lakituthequick> Or just take the form away.
[2017-04-23 03:50:03] <shoutmon> 7instead of the smb3 one
[2017-04-23 03:50:22] <turb> oh was there a mystery mushroom in smb3
[2017-04-23 03:50:30] <GBAToad> this is news to me
[2017-04-23 03:50:36] <Lord_Bowser> isn't that the reverse mushroom
[2017-04-23 03:50:37] <shoutmon> 7yeah idk if thats the official name
[2017-04-23 03:50:41] <shoutmon> 7was it
[2017-04-23 03:50:47] <shoutmon> 7ok
[2017-04-23 03:50:56] <Lord_Bowser> if you mean the battle mode one then yes iirc
[2017-04-23 03:51:18] <GBAToad> smb3 or mp3
[2017-04-23 03:51:23] <shoutmon> 7smb3
[2017-04-23 03:51:23] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'll flip super leaf
[2017-04-23 03:51:45] <Anton{Politoed}> 4since this is the item award, we'll set that as the first
[2017-04-23 03:52:04] <shoutmon> 7afaik starman super star are BOTH names for the item
[2017-04-23 03:52:16] <shoutmon> 7the form is 'invincible [character]'
[2017-04-23 03:52:18] <Lord_Bowser> yeah they are
[2017-04-23 03:52:28] <Lord_Bowser> starman is more often used though
[2017-04-23 03:52:29] <Lakituthequick> i see it as 
[2017-04-23 03:52:40] <Lakituthequick> super star makes you a starman
[2017-04-23 03:52:50] <Lakituthequick> but it doesnt make a lot of sense indeed
[2017-04-23 03:52:51] <shoutmon> 7ok but youre wrong
[2017-04-23 03:52:57] <shoutmon> 7the item is called starman
[2017-04-23 03:53:03] <Lakituthequick> correct
[2017-04-23 03:53:05] <shoutmon> 7in the official material
[2017-04-23 03:53:05] <Anton{Politoed}> 4with this, though
[2017-04-23 03:53:06] <Lord_Bowser> oh wait the wiki calls them super star
[2017-04-23 03:53:11] <Lakituthequick> but in this form it looks like that
[2017-04-23 03:53:13] <Anton{Politoed}> 4does that mean we should just lob off "tanooki suit"
[2017-04-23 03:53:15] <shoutmon> 7but i think its only old material
[2017-04-23 03:53:26] <Lakituthequick> it would make it consistent anton
[2017-04-23 03:53:30] <shoutmon> 7i would do it the other way
[2017-04-23 03:53:35] <shoutmon> 7remove the leaf
[2017-04-23 03:53:42] <shoutmon> 7because: the suit itself was an item in mario 3
[2017-04-23 03:53:53] <GBAToad> Yeah but the leaf was also an item in 3
[2017-04-23 03:53:56] <Lakituthequick> but the leaf is the item in this context?
[2017-04-23 03:54:01] <GBAToad> And sm3dl
[2017-04-23 03:54:02] <shoutmon> 7thats my point
[2017-04-23 03:54:05] <Lakituthequick> the suit is the result
[2017-04-23 03:54:17] <shoutmon> 7the leaf has inconsistent properties between the two games
[2017-04-23 03:54:21] <shoutmon> 7if you just include the leaf
[2017-04-23 03:54:34] <shoutmon> 7people wont know what version of ittheyre voting for
[2017-04-23 03:54:34] <Lakituthequick> oh yeah
[2017-04-23 03:54:38] <Lakituthequick> one gives you a suit
[2017-04-23 03:54:39] <turb> oh thats fair
[2017-04-23 03:54:40] <shoutmon> 7the suit was only an item once
[2017-04-23 03:54:42] <shoutmon> 7so its clearer
[2017-04-23 03:54:45] <Lakituthequick> the other just funny ears
[2017-04-23 03:54:48] <Lakituthequick> and a tail
[2017-04-23 03:54:49] <turb> the suit is usually what people think of anyway
[2017-04-23 03:54:53] <GBAToad> yeah
[2017-04-23 03:54:59] <Lakituthequick> but dont they do the exact same thing?
[2017-04-23 03:55:06] <shoutmon> 7no
[2017-04-23 03:55:11] <shoutmon> 7god its confusing
[2017-04-23 03:55:14] <Lord_Bowser> no the suit in smb3 ddoes the statue thing
[2017-04-23 03:55:18] <Lord_Bowser> does*
[2017-04-23 03:55:26] <shoutmon> 7the SUIT in smb3 is like the STONE LEAF in sm3dl
[2017-04-23 03:55:42] <turb> the leaf in smb3 just gives you flight and ears
[2017-04-23 03:55:42] <Anton{Politoed}> 4delete nintendo
[2017-04-23 03:55:43] <turb> iirc
[2017-04-23 03:55:45] <Lakituthequick> gdi nintendo get your consistency together
[2017-04-23 03:55:45] <shoutmon> 7the LEAF in smb3 is like the ORGANIC LEAF in smdl
[2017-04-23 03:55:52] <Meta_Knight> 10i support deleting nintendo
[2017-04-23 03:55:54] <Lakituthequick> > organic leaf
[2017-04-23 03:56:06] <shoutmon> 7its not actually called that 
[2017-04-23 03:56:07] <Lord_Bowser> free range leaf
[2017-04-23 03:56:11] <shoutmon> 7but if i just said 'leaf' it would be confusing
[2017-04-23 03:56:21] <shoutmon> 7the leaf thats not made of stone and isnt white
[2017-04-23 03:56:32] <Lakituthequick> organic makes the other sound like plactic i mean
[2017-04-23 03:56:44] <shoutmon> 7its not
[2017-04-23 03:56:45] <shoutmon> 7its stone
[2017-04-23 03:56:48] <shoutmon> 7thats the point
[2017-04-23 03:56:52] <Lakituthequick> even worse
[2017-04-23 03:57:01] <Lord_Bowser> but stone is natural
[2017-04-23 03:57:10] <shoutmon> 7but its not organic
[2017-04-23 03:57:17] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so from what I'm personally pulling from this is
[2017-04-23 03:57:25] <GBAToad> awards cancelled over a leaf
[2017-04-23 03:57:26] <shoutmon> 7??
[2017-04-23 03:57:29] <Anton{Politoed}> 4turning this one nominee into like 5 because nintendo swapped definitions every game
[2017-04-23 03:57:50] <shoutmon> 7i still say we should just remove the  leaf and only include the suit
[2017-04-23 03:57:56] <shoutmon> 7the suit is cooler
[2017-04-23 03:58:06] <shoutmon> 7it lets you turn to stone and be a furry
[2017-04-23 03:58:08] <Lord_Bowser> the suit is furry bait
[2017-04-23 03:58:15] <Lakituthequick> i'm almost rofl
[2017-04-23 03:58:28] <turb> id say the suit is more iconic anyway
[2017-04-23 03:58:29] <shoutmon> 7the leaf just lets you fly and be a catgirl
[2017-04-23 03:58:41] <Lakituthequick> >catgirl
[2017-04-23 03:58:51] <Lakituthequick> like
[2017-04-23 03:58:55] <Lakituthequick> stick to walls?
[2017-04-23 03:58:56] <Anton{Politoed}> 4do we want Super Leaf to be its own separate ominee
[2017-04-23 03:58:57] <Anton{Politoed}> 4n
[2017-04-23 03:59:01] <shoutmon> 7n
[2017-04-23 03:59:02] <GBAToad> ñ
[2017-04-23 03:59:12] <Lakituthequick> i honestly
[2017-04-23 03:59:15] <Anton{Politoed}> 4that n was because of a typo
[2017-04-23 03:59:16] <Lakituthequick> dont know anymore
[2017-04-23 03:59:18] <Meta_Knight> 10a
[2017-04-23 03:59:21] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but
[2017-04-23 03:59:44] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we could say "Super Leaf (3D games)"
[2017-04-23 03:59:45] <Anton{Politoed}> 4or something
[2017-04-23 04:00:03] <Lakituthequick> wiki has a nice infobox summary
[2017-04-23 04:00:08] <shoutmon> 7theres like 3 of those though
[2017-04-23 04:00:11] <Lakituthequick> Effect on Player:
[2017-04-23 04:00:11] <Lakituthequick> Turns Mario / Luigi into Raccoon Mario / Fox Luigi (Super Mario Bros. 3, New Super Mario Bros. 2, Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U, and Super Mario Maker), Tanooki Mario / Kitsune Luigi (Super Mario 3D Land, Super Mario 3D World) or gives karts a tail (Mario Kart 7).
[2017-04-23 04:00:16] <shoutmon> 7the leaf, the stone leaf, and the white leaf
[2017-04-23 04:00:41] <Lakituthequick> (this is Super Leaf)
[2017-04-23 04:01:04] <dia> ñ
[2017-04-23 04:01:04] <Anton{Politoed}> 4(((((we'll finish this decision then end the meeting))))))))))
[2017-04-23 04:01:09] <meowth> 12oh
[2017-04-23 04:01:18] <meowth> 12what are we doing right now
[2017-04-23 04:01:23] <meowth> 12im reading
[2017-04-23 04:01:23] <Lakituthequick> super leaf (3d) would work
[2017-04-23 04:01:30] <Anton{Politoed}> 4if we're to hold to the wiki, "Super Leaf" on its own could just be a nominee and nintendo swapping the definitions is just tough luck
[2017-04-23 04:01:37] <GBAToad> exactly
[2017-04-23 04:01:45] <shoutmon> 7i find that weird
[2017-04-23 04:01:56] <shoutmon> 7its the effecdt that people are likely to care about
[2017-04-23 04:01:58] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but I think separating it to "Tanooki Suit" and "Super Leaf (3D games)" is the most fair and recognizable
[2017-04-23 04:01:59] <shoutmon> 7not the actual item
[2017-04-23 04:02:03] <Anton{Politoed}> 4yeah
[2017-04-23 04:02:20] <Lakituthequick> so
[2017-04-23 04:02:30] <GBAToad> i support the separation
[2017-04-23 04:02:31] <Lakituthequick> change all of the nominees again?
[2017-04-23 04:02:37] <Anton{Politoed}> 4not all, just those
[2017-04-23 04:02:39] <Lakituthequick> to be the result
[2017-04-23 04:02:43] <dia> seems fair
[2017-04-23 04:02:46] <Anton{Politoed}> 4no
[2017-04-23 04:02:58] <Anton{Politoed}> 4because not all have results that can be easily phrased like this does
[2017-04-23 04:03:15] <Anton{Politoed}> 4just because one item is a clusterfuck doesn't mean we should dismantle the rest of the award
[2017-04-23 04:03:16] <meowth> 12i don't really have an opinion on this
[2017-04-23 04:03:39] <shoutmon> 7the other two are unambiguous anyway
[2017-04-23 04:03:47] <dia> im fine with an exception on a nominee by nominee basis
[2017-04-23 04:03:48] <shoutmon> 7starman and super star are the same thing all the time
[2017-04-23 04:03:53] <Anton{Politoed}> 4well let's vote on this
[2017-04-23 04:04:10] <shoutmon> 7as are cat suit and super bell or wahtever
[2017-04-23 04:04:10] <dia> rather than trying to fit all of the nominees into the same hole
[2017-04-23 04:04:36] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: separate "Super Leaf/Tanooki Suit" to two separate nominees "Tanooki Suit" and "Super Leaf (3D games)"? (y/n/a)
[2017-04-23 04:04:40] <GBAToad> y
[2017-04-23 04:04:43] <Meta_Knight> 10y
[2017-04-23 04:04:44] <shoutmon> 7a
[2017-04-23 04:04:48] <Lakituthequick> y
[2017-04-23 04:04:49] <meowth> 12a
[2017-04-23 04:04:53] <dia> y
[2017-04-23 04:04:56] <Lord_Bowser> a
[2017-04-23 04:04:57] <turb> hi i've been ignoring this because idk what the fuck is up with nintendo's definitions and they scare me
[2017-04-23 04:05:02] <meowth> 124-0-3
[2017-04-23 04:05:05] <turb> but y i guess
[2017-04-23 04:05:09] <GBAToad> and can we also vote on dropping cat suit since its not an actual item unlike the tanooki suit
[2017-04-23 04:05:13] <meowth> 125-0-3
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[2017-04-23 04:05:16] <GBAToad> or can we just drop it entirely
[2017-04-23 04:05:21] <GBAToad> without a vote
[2017-04-23 04:05:45] <Anton{Politoed}> 4sure
[2017-04-23 04:06:16] <meowth> 12nintendo is cancelled
[2017-04-23 04:06:22] <Lakituthequick> well super bell is actually listed so
[2017-04-23 04:06:31] <Anton{Politoed}> 4are there any other concerns with M16?
[2017-04-23 04:06:34] <Lakituthequick> i'd say drop the suit part
[2017-04-23 04:06:48] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I've erased cat suit
[2017-04-23 04:06:55] <GBAToad> thats what i said and anton has done
[2017-04-23 04:06:57] <GBAToad> yay
[2017-04-23 04:06:58] <Lakituthequick> same with starman?
[2017-04-23 04:07:12] <shoutmon> 7sstarman is a pretty outdated name 
[2017-04-23 04:07:15] <shoutmon> 7i dont think we need it
[2017-04-23 04:07:19] <Anton{Politoed}> 4starman is the name of the item but _
[2017-04-23 04:07:29] <Lakituthequick> like 
[2017-04-23 04:07:33] <Lakituthequick> 20 years ago
[2017-04-23 04:07:39] <Anton{Politoed}> 4literally everyone knows what super star is though
[2017-04-23 04:07:51] <dia> yeah i dont know what star man is
[2017-04-23 04:07:54] <Anton{Politoed}> 4if some nerds write in starman then next year we'll reconsider
[2017-04-23 04:07:56] <GBAToad> so yeah drop starman tbhimo
[2017-04-23 04:08:01] <shoutmon> 7yeah starman is the name of the itme from hundreds ofyears ago
[2017-04-23 04:08:12] <shoutmon> 7i dont think nintendo uses it at all anymore
[2017-04-23 04:08:13] <GBAToad> final starman
[2017-04-23 04:08:24] <Anton{Politoed}> 4ok gr8 we did it
[2017-04-23 04:08:26] <Lord_Bowser> ghost of starman
[2017-04-23 04:08:31] <GBAToad> add david bowie to favourite item
[2017-04-23 04:08:36] <Anton{Politoed}> 4next meeting we will pick up where we left off, resuming with M17
[2017-04-23 04:08:44] <GBAToad> oh fuck that msg timing
[2017-04-23 04:08:45] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and also finish C11
[2017-04-23 04:09:17] <turb> :clap:
[2017-04-23 04:09:27] * Anton{Politoed} 4slams a squeaky toy gavel