Topic for #mwikiawards is ``"An Excellent Meeting" - Chef Excellence, 2015 || Awards are canceled, I have a hair appointment the day of the ceremony and I can't miss it, soz || 5th meeting hype || http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=36197.0 Links || Number of meetings survived: 4''
Topic for #mwikiawards was set by Chiaki_Nanami!Pi@59-995-323-88-lr28.tbcn.telia.com on zondag 27 maart 2016 4:06:22
it's something where votes are being held and you tally them
<Uniju>
let's riggity roll
<Chiaki_Nanami>
meeting hype
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<Chiaki_Nanami>
anton speaking of hair appointments
<Chiaki_Nanami>
i had a haircut today
<Anton{Politoed}>
u did it
<Anton{Politoed}>
did you get a bowl cut
<Chiaki_Nanami>
no, i didn't think ahead that far
<Anton{Politoed}>
it's ok because they're gross
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i gotta run out for a bit
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
may miss the beginning
<Chiaki_Nanami>
then again if i had done that i would have come to the insight that they're terrible
<DragonFreak>
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaabuffet
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<SonicMario>
Heya
<SonicMario>
Shall we dub this the April Fails Day meeting since I assume most of the meeting is still talking about the Fail Awards? :V
<DragonFreak>
hai
<Anton{Politoed}>
meeting is canceled
<Anton{Politoed}>
we're all playing miitomo
<SonicMario>
lol
<Stooben>
2 minutes to go and the memes have already started
<Stooben>
oh, sorry, miimes
<Chiaki_Nanami>
i'm not
<Nozomi_Toujou>
hail the dark lord of miimes
<Chiaki_Nanami>
i want to make dank political memes and dank international memes
<Meta_Knight>
for oncce its a friday on awards and im not on mobile
<Chiaki_Nanami>
dank /int/ernational memes
<Chiaki_Nanami>
1 minute remaining
<Chiaki_Nanami>
10 seconds
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<Chiaki_Nanami>
hype
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<Anton{Politoed}>
hold on I just got a miitomo notification
Packy hyperventilates
<Anton{Politoed}>
Kaysche and others gave me a heart!
<Anton{Politoed}>
thx
<Tailmon>
i want to play miitomo
<Nozomi_Toujou>
i turned off notifications
<Packy>
^
<Packy>
ok well not star's but ^ tailmon's
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<Anton{Politoed}>
anyways here we are at this glorious AC meeting
<Nozomi_Toujou>
you can get it on bluestacks i think?
<Nozomi_Toujou>
but i won't derail right now
<Mariofan169>
I'm watching a movie atm so I can't really focus on the meeting but I'll try to pipe in once or twice
<Anton{Politoed}>
where our agenda today is quick and simple
<Anton{Politoed}>
*Cover a flub
<SonicMario>
I don't even have a smartphone right now :V
<turb>
im back finally
<Anton{Politoed}>
*Continue Fail Awards
<Anton{Politoed}>
and that's it
<Anton{Politoed}>
so with that let's get to the flub
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<Anton{Politoed}>
which was that we totally just fucking skipped right over A29 and A30
<Anton{Politoed}>
and no one noticed until I checked like 4 days ago
<Anton{Politoed}>
so lol
<Nyrie>
oh
<Chiaki_Nanami>
lmao
<Nabber>
fire anton
<Nyrie>
i thought that was intentional???
<Anton{Politoed}>
edo, 22, and I took the
<Nyrie>
oops
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<Anton{Politoed}>
FUCK PHONE CALL
<Anton{Politoed}>
FUCK 22
<Anton{Politoed}>
GET THE MEETING
<_2257>
uhhh
<_2257>
ok then
Nyrie fucks phone call
<Chiaki_Nanami>
nyrie that's 100000% lewd, stop
<Nyrie>
ok
<Tailmon>
oh i was wondering about that
<Tailmon>
i meant to ask why we didn't cover them
<_2257>
god sorry this notes document is huge
<Tailmon>
but then i forgot because i'm not that bright
<Anton{Politoed}>
IT'S OK 22 i'm back
<_2257>
oh
<_2257>
ok
<Anton{Politoed}>
I thought I was getting called into work because I know it's a busy day
<Anton{Politoed}>
so
<Anton{Politoed}>
20:01 Anton{Politoed} edo, 22, and I took the
<Anton{Politoed}>
liberty to go ahead and just do those awards ourselves
<Anton{Politoed}>
A29 Favorite Classic Game (N64/GBC and older) (Super Mario World, Super Mario 64, Paper Mario, Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario RPG, Donkey Kong 64, Super Mario Bros., Yoshi’s Island (SNES), Mario Kart 64., Yoshi’s Story, Mario Party 2, Super Smash Bros., Super Mario Bros. 2 (USA), Wario Land 3, Donkey Kong Country 2)
<Anton{Politoed}>
absolutely no changes
<Anton{Politoed}>
A30 Favorite Modern Game (GCN/GBA and newer) (Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Sunshine, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Mario Kart Wii, Super Mario 3D Land, Super Paper Mario, Luigi’s Mansion: Dark Moon, Super Mario 3D World, Mario & Luigi: Bowser’s Inside Story, Super Smash Bros 3DS/Wii U, Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker, Mario Kart
<Anton{Politoed}>
8, Wario Land 4, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze
<Anton{Politoed}>
changes include:
<Anton{Politoed}>
removing Treasure Tracker and DKC:TF because they scored horribly
<Anton{Politoed}>
adding Super Mario Maker
<Anton{Politoed}>
are there any questions, concerns, further ideas, etc.
<Meta_Knight>
seems fair
<Nabber>
yeah that makes sense
<Chiaki_Nanami>
no
<Packy>
All good
<Tailmon>
i have a suggestion
<Uniju>
looks good
<Tailmon>
add woolly world?
<Anton{Politoed}>
ok
<Tailmon>
it's actually available everywhere now
<Tailmon>
and it's been received pretty well from what i've seen
<Uniju>
actually if i wait until the end of the meeting im gonna be too tired so im gonna blow off for a bit to brush my teeth
<Nozomi_Toujou>
i would suggest paper jam but it hasn't been around long at all and it wouldn't probably do as good as next year
<Stooben>
i think i can get behind that
<Anton{Politoed}>
woolly world got literally 1 vote, but
<Chiaki_Nanami>
it's a great game, i love it
<Anton{Politoed}>
it's also because it was released at an awkward time and in an awkward way
<Meta_Knight>
but that was when it wasn't out in the us
<Chiaki_Nanami>
look, it almost beat yi in favourite yoshi game
<Tailmon>
it wasn't available everywhere yet yeah
<Meta_Knight>
yeah it scored 2nd for best yoshi game
<SonicMario>
I'd say give Wooly World a chance if there's room.
<Tailmon>
i don't even think it was released where it was until the middle of the polls lol
<turb>
im fine with the proposed changes + woolly world
<Tailmon>
so i don't think the 1 write-in is really a strike against adding it in this case
<Gamefreak75>
oh it started
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<Tailmon>
otherwise this is fine i would have brought up removing ct + tf and adding mario maker anyway
<Anton{Politoed}>
ok so since there's no complaints against it I'm just gonna accept that as is
<Anton{Politoed}>
and keep the changes we already made + woolly world
<Chiaki_Nanami>
neat
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
back
<Tailmon>
hooray!
<Chiaki_Nanami>
u did it smasher
<Tailmon>
i did it
<Anton{Politoed}>
" :) "
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i have no complint
<Anton{Politoed}>
and with that Mario Awards are actually done enough
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
yay us
<Tailmon>
award me with a smart phone with miitomo on it
<Nozomi_Toujou>
ayy!
<Lakituthequick>
:clap:
<Gamefreak75>
tfw dkctf is removed
<Gamefreak75>
shit taste
<Chiaki_Nanami>
i agree, gamefreak
<Anton{Politoed}>
which means we can go on with Fail Awards, where we left off on F5
<Tailmon>
i know gf :(
<Anton{Politoed}>
F5 Worst Level Concept (Ice Levels, Water Levels, Autoscrolling Levels, Ghost Houses, Rolling Ball Galaxies, Purple Coin Levels, SMS “Secret of _” Levels, SMS Red Coin Missions, Galaxy’s Surfing Levels)
<Anton{Politoed}>
I have nothing in my notes regarding this
<Anton{Politoed}>
turb any ideas
<turb>
uhhhhh
<Mariofan169>
ghost houses aren't that bad tbh
<Nabber>
can we add linearity??
<turb>
idk i honestly don't keep up with mario
<turb>
is there anything that's been added recently
<Chiaki_Nanami>
uh
<turb>
linearity sounds like autoscrollers but
<Tailmon>
it's better than most things on the list too bad voters have SHIT TASTE
<Nabber>
no i mean in like
<Nabber>
3d games
<Tailmon>
also i have nothing at the top of my head to do with this
<Anton{Politoed}>
O. Daredevil Comet Levels – 2 O. Cosmic Mario Races – 1 O. Dark Levels – 1 O. Sky Levels – 1
<Anton{Politoed}>
those are the write-ins
<Nabber>
i support cosmic races
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
dark levels could be interesting
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
if it's specifically levels with limited vision
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
like some of the yoshi ones
<Anton{Politoed}>
every other nominee scored well enough to evade removal
<SonicMario>
The only thing I can think of to possibly add is like some of the common levels you find on Mario Maker that you can get tired of really quick (Though they're sometimes helpful in 100 Mario Challenge I guess since you can't fail as long as you don't touch anything). Like Automatic levels.
<Nyrie>
can we add paper toad hunting
<Nabber>
oh yeah automatic levels would be good to add
<Nyrie>
does that count
<Gamefreak75>
Stupidly difficult mario maker levels
<Gamefreak75>
thats more of a game concept i think
<Gamefreak75>
for worst game objective
<_2257>
i would vote for linearity
<Nyrie>
fair
<Gamefreak75>
@nyrie
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<Chiaki_Nanami>
linearity is not a thing you can really complain about in a platformer
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
yeah the problem is
<Nyrie>
could we add automatic levels
<NSY>
Hey
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
there will inherently be a Point A and a Poin B
<turb>
its just hard to categorize because of tha tyeah
<Chiaki_Nanami>
hey nsy you are in France
<turb>
i dunno
<NSY>
Yes
<Tailmon>
i don't think linearity would work here
<Gamefreak75>
im fine with automatic levels
<Anton{Politoed}>
what are automatic levels
<Nyrie>
there's no nintendo-created autolevels though
<turb>
would it be better for worst game mechanic??
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i mean i get the idea is too much confining linearity, but i just don't think we could word it well
<Gamefreak75>
i guess denote (Mario Maker) too?
<Meta_Knight>
what about those restricted time levels
<NSY>
I just over spelt for 10 mins
<turb>
autolevels are mario maker things
<Chiaki_Nanami>
levels in mario maker you win by doing nothing
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
automatic levels are levels that progress entirely automatically
<Gamefreak75>
like Automatic Levels (Mario Maker)
<Meta_Knight>
like in the special worlds of 3d land
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
like the super mario world ones that play music
<Meta_Knight>
they give you like 10 seconds
<DragonFreak>
nintendo made a sort of auto level in mm
<Chiaki_Nanami>
uh
<Mariofan169>
adding on to my point did ghost houses get much votes last year
<turb>
god theres something i wanted to say about this award but i cant find it
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i'd say Restrictive Timer is a better thing for Game Mechanic
<DragonFreak>
the excite bike one it's just hold right and win
<turb>
they got second to last place
<Anton{Politoed}>
Ghost Houses – 34 (5.45%) Ice Levels – 32 (5.13%)
<Nabber>
idk i feel like restrictive timer is part of the game
<turb>
but not a significantly lower amount of votes than the rest
<Nabber>
i mean level
<turb>
oh nvm i was getting this mixed up with favorite level theme
<turb>
so the thing i wanted to say is moot
<Uniju>
ok im back
<turb>
what have we brougth up so far
<turb>
automatic levels and linearity?
<Chiaki_Nanami>
automatic levels
<Chiaki_Nanami>
linearity is not something that is feasible, IIRC
<Anton{Politoed}>
what exactly would linearity be within this context
<_2257>
sure its feasible
<_2257>
some levels are linear
<turb>
linearity in 3d levels
<_2257>
some arent
<NSY>
Per Pi
<turb>
according to nabber
<turb>
i mean there are non-linear 2d levels to some extent
<Chiaki_Nanami>
so the entirety of smg and smg2 and 3d land and 3d world?
<NSY>
Linearity isn't really a type of level
<Anton{Politoed}>
I just need to know what linearity describes
<Nabber>
not all of smg and smg2 is linear
<Nabber>
they have open worlds
<_2257>
its not the entirety of smg or smg2
<Anton{Politoed}>
if I don't have a description I can't add it
<Nabber>
3d land and 3d world are all linear though
<Nyrie>
are 2d levels with secret exits linear????
<Nabber>
yeah i'd say so
<Nabber>
i'd say linear is
<NSY>
partially
<_2257>
not all 2d levels are necessarily linear
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
pretty much, you can only go Point A -> Point B or Point C
<Nabber>
3d levels that don't have an open world to explore
<Uniju>
levels where your goal amounts to "walk to the end"
<Nabber>
yeah
<Meta_Knight>
i feel like adding linearity would just confuse people
<_2257>
ghost houses arent
<Chiaki_Nanami>
ghost houses are
<_2257>
not
<Chiaki_Nanami>
how
<Uniju>
which is 90% of mario levels even in 3d games so i dont think it would really be a good thing to put on
<Chiaki_Nanami>
is it because you walk to the left?
<_2257>
because there are multiple paths and
<Anton{Politoed}>
can't the nomination then be specified as "Linearity in 3D Levels"
<turb>
it can be yeah
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i guess
<_2257>
you don't always get to the end just by walking in a straight line
<Nabber>
yeah
<turb>
if everyone's fine with it being restrictively defined that way
<turb>
honestly i don't really care about it either way
<Lakituthequick>
i'd say linearity in 2d levels is logical in a way
<Lakituthequick>
weras in 3d it makes less sence
<Lakituthequick>
so "Linearity in 3D Levels" seems good to me
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
tbh i'm not a fan of this nominee at all, it feels too widely encompassing and not entirely easily defined
<turb>
i guess looking at it again it's not like there aren't game-specific nominees
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
unlike a lot of them
<Uniju>
the thing is
<Tailmon>
i agree with perch
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
linearity seems pretty subjective
<Uniju>
how disliked actually is linearity in the 3d games
<turb>
it is a lot wider-scope/subjective than the other nominees yeah
<NSY>
ltq, pretty much every 2d level is linear
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
like, what one person considers linear, another might not
<turb>
well uniju everyone hated 3d land
<Uniju>
like, nobody has ever complained about the bowser levels in mario 64
<turb>
but everyone loved 3d world even though it was like that
<Chiaki_Nanami>
mathematically speaking, no level is linear
<Meta_Knight>
yeah i agree with perch
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<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
see: 22 and Pi on ghost house
<NSY>
I didn't hate 3D land
<turb>
and yeah the bowser levels are universally loved in spite of being the most linear levels in sm64
<Uniju>
i think it would be better to change this to like
<_2257>
mathematically speaking??
<Chiaki_Nanami>
yes
<Chiaki_Nanami>
jumping is required
<Uniju>
putting it on worst game direction if we're doing that i don't know if we are because im retarded and dont remember stuff
<Anton{Politoed}>
we're not discussing mathematical lines
<_2257>
do you really think any voter is interested in the mathematical defintion of linearity
<_2257>
and if so, do you have a better word for it
<_2257>
because if not i don't know what youre saying
<Uniju>
like, make it be the general, much more often linear, level design of those games
<Nabber>
honestly yeah i don't think we should have this because
<Uniju>
rather than the abstract concept of linear levels
<turb>
maybe we should just
<Nabber>
i dislike linear levels when they're overdone
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
uniju's idea is better
<turb>
scrap this and vote on autoscrolling levels
<Nabber>
but having them in games isn't bad
<turb>
and possibly add this to worst game concept
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
yeah, this doesn't fit here imo
<NSY>
per turn
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
maybe it fits elsewhere
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
but not here
<NSY>
*turb
<Chiaki_Nanami>
turn
<Tailmon>
per turb
<turb>
alright well if everyone's fine with that
<Anton{Politoed}>
ok so is Automatic Levels the only nominee that's held up
<turb>
i think we should call a vote on autoscrollers
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
yes
<Tailmon>
it might fit on like game concept or something
<turb>
er
<turb>
automatic levels
<Nozomi_Toujou>
vote on automatic levels
<Tailmon>
but it doesn't work here
<Tailmon>
yeah vote on automatic levels
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Add 'Automatic Levels' to A5 Worst Level Concept? (y/n/a)
<turb>
Automatic Levels (Mario Maker) or something similar is how it should be formatted
<Chiaki_Nanami>
y
<Nozomi_Toujou>
y
<SonicMario>
y
<turb>
y
<Meta_Knight>
y
<Uniju>
y
<_2257>
y
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
a
<Tailmon>
y
<Lakituthequick>
y
<Anton{Politoed}>
y
<NSY>
y
<Nabber>
y
<Stooben>
y
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i ruined it
<DragonFreak>
y
<Gamefreak75>
y
<mcd>
\y
<Anton{Politoed}>
is the (Mario Maker) required
<Tailmon>
16-0-1
<Tailmon>
thanks perch
<Anton{Politoed}>
it's not a big deal it's just I didn't specify lol
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i think so
<Nozomi_Toujou>
to help voters who may be confused
<turb>
idk, there arent any default mario games that have them
<Anton{Politoed}>
if that changes anyone's votes then ______
<_2257>
people might think it means autoscrolling if you don't
<turb>
and everyone calls them automatic levels
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
yeah
<Chiaki_Nanami>
no, turb
<turb>
but yeah that might help
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
pi: hacking them into super mario world doesn't count
<Gamefreak75>
yeah per 22
<Chiaki_Nanami>
:(
<Anton{Politoed}>
"Automatic Levels (Mario Maker)" has been added
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
we did it
<Chiaki_Nanami>
perch why must you ruin everything :(
<Anton{Politoed}>
anything else to discuss for F5?
<Tailmon>
i think we're good
<_2257>
can i ask a question abuot a30
<Anton{Politoed}>
sure
<_2257>
ok
<Nyrie>
f5 more like refresh
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
because i am a cruel and whimsical god, pi
<_2257>
someone mentioned paper jam but said they didnt want to nominate it right now because it hasnt been out long enough or something
<_2257>
is paper jam actually popular enough that it might get votes?
<Chiaki_Nanami>
it's an okay game
<Meta_Knight>
but that feels like cheating
<_2257>
because i don't really think we should keep it off for only the release date
<Gamefreak75>
no
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i don't know enough
<Gamefreak75>
paper jam really isnt that popular
<_2257>
iirc its out in multiple territories by now
<Meta_Knight>
everything else is a part of a game
<Gamefreak75>
so its not worth it imo
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<_2257>
and voting hasnt e ven started yet
<NSY>
we never included dream team there
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<NSY>
either
<Tailmon>
i think paper jam would be eligible but i don't know enough about how popular it is
<_2257>
im not talking about dreatm team im talkng about paper jam
<turb>
i'd say skip out on it but that's just based on how i've seen people respond to it
<_2257>
ok
<NSY>
^
<Chiaki_Nanami>
it's the most okay game Nintendo ever published
<turb>
if theres more than like 2 people who have played the game in here and they think its good then they should
<turb>
say something
<Nyrie>
i liked it a lot....
<Nozomi_Toujou>
[20:22.59] _2257 someone mentioned paper jam but said they didnt want to nominate it right now because it hasnt been out long enough or something
<Nyrie>
but....
<Nozomi_Toujou>
yeah that was me
<Chiaki_Nanami>
I like the game but it's not something you go WOW IT IS THE BEST THING EVER about
<Meta_Knight>
but this is worst level concept, not worst game concept
<Anton{Politoed}>
ok so if it gets write-ins we can always add it next year
<Nyrie>
i don't think it's anyone's favourite game
<_2257>
so basically it was mediocre and nobody actually wants it
<_2257>
is what im getting
<Chiaki_Nanami>
yes
<Nozomi_Toujou>
i'm just worried that it's not going to do well this year and then proceed to get the boot because it was barely released
<turb>
yeah probably
<_2257>
ok
<turb>
and per anton
<Nyrie>
add pokken
<Nozomi_Toujou>
that's what you're getting from pi
<Chiaki_Nanami>
I'm the one speaking up
<Nozomi_Toujou>
nyrie i don't think this is being treated as an april fools meeting
<Tailmon>
yeah based on this it's probably best to wait to see how it does as a write in
<Chiaki_Nanami>
if you feel like I'm misrepresenting it, speak up
<Anton{Politoed}>
continuing with fail awards then
<mcd>
so we're adding paper jam as worst level concept?
<NSY>
Most critics say Paper Jam is good but nothing special
<Nozomi_Toujou>
yes mcd
<Tailmon>
yes
<mcd>
ah good
<Anton{Politoed}>
F6 Worst Spin-off (Mario Kart Arcade GP, Mario Kart Arcade GP 2, Dr. Mario 64, Mario Pinball Land, Mario Kart Super Circuit, Mario Party 9, Mario Super Sluggers, Mario Party Advance, Mario Party 10)
<Nyrie>
mcd i don't think this is being treated as an april fools meeting
<Anton{Politoed}>
nothing in my notes about this
<turb>
hm
<NSY>
IMario Kart Arcade GP – 39 (6.4%) Mario Kart: Super Circuit – 36 (5.91%) Mario Super Sluggers – 34 (5.58%) Mario Kart Arcade GP 2 – 19 (3.12%) O. Paper Mario: Sticker Star – 8 O. Hotel Mario – 7 O. Mario Party 8 – 3
<Gamefreak75>
brb
<turb>
sports games count so i guess add like
<Toadbert>
ok
<turb>
ultra smash
<Nabber>
how do you define a spin-off?
<Tailmon>
ultra smash would be good
<Nyrie>
definitely add ultra smash
<mcd>
could probably remove gp2
<NSY>
I would suggest removing/merging gp2
<mcd>
add ultra smash
<Nabber>
like, why is super circuit and mario party in there but not sticker star?
<Nyrie>
does sticker star even count
<Chiaki_Nanami>
a game that is not super mario
<mcd>
i'd say add sticker star
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
ultra smash kseems good
<Chiaki_Nanami>
Sticker Star counts
<Tailmon>
i think sticker star counts
<Chiaki_Nanami>
Paper Mario is a spin-off
<mcd>
a lot of new animosity towards it since colour splash
<Nabber>
yeah then let's add sticker star
<DragonFreak>
i never understood why super sluggers is so unpopoular since it has like the largest roster
<Nozomi_Toujou>
(oh no my pings are tingling)
<turb>
add sticker star and ultra smash then i guess
<Nozomi_Toujou>
yeah sticker star and ultra smash are good nominees
<Anton{Politoed}>
add (sticker star, ultra smash), remove (gp2)
<Anton{Politoed}>
anything else?
<Nyrie>
can we merge gp2 with gp1
<turb>
should we merge the gps together yeah
<Nyrie>
and just say
<Chiaki_Nanami>
They are separate games
<Nyrie>
"mario kart arcade gp games"
<Chiaki_Nanami>
ok
<Nyrie>
are they really that different
<Chiaki_Nanami>
yes
<NSY>
I've played both arcade games
<Chiaki_Nanami>
idk
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<Nabber>
does anyone actually know the difference
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<Nyrie>
no not really lol
<mcd>
i've played arcade gp 2
<NSY>
they are very similar
<Nozomi_Toujou>
i thought they were the same game
<Nabber>
is anyone going to be like "gp 2 is a masterpiece and doesn't deserve to be here but gp 1 does"
only note I had on this was that the results are usually weak, but
<Anton{Politoed}>
it was a replace option
<Anton{Politoed}>
Most Underwhelming Boss is the other
<turb>
i'll check the results
<Lakituthequick>
mcd: heh
<Anton{Politoed}>
we have 3 removed so far, with 4 new ideas
<turb>
hopefully lakitu gets a landslide win every year
<NSY>
I would rather see this one stay
<Toadbert>
slendertoad
<NSY>
but the results are painfully the same every time
<turb>
only 38 votes
<turb>
disappointing
<turb>
and yeah i remember cursya skullfucking this award every year
<turb>
it only got 5 more votes than second place last year i guess
<turb>
i dont really care whether this one stays or goes
<Chiaki_Nanami>
Are we removing this on the sole premise that it's predictable?
<Tailmon>
i'm ok with this one sticking around, myself
<Anton{Politoed}>
we've removed like 7 awards already for that exact reason
<Anton{Politoed}>
Most Underwhelming Boss is far more predictable, though
<Anton{Politoed}>
so I'd prefer that one go over this unless there's another reason
<Nabber>
ive never really found this award very interesting
<Tailmon>
if one of them have to be removed then i would much rather cut boss
<Tailmon>
and keep this one
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
yeah
<turb>
yeah per that
<Chiaki_Nanami>
question
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
has anyone other than cloud n candy ever one
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
*ever won
<turb>
not afaik
<NSY>
per smashie
<Chiaki_Nanami>
Are there any new entries we should add?
<Meta_Knight>
maybe somethign from paper jam?
<Anton{Politoed}>
I mean right now we're talking about whether we're keeping the award at all but _______
<Meta_Knight>
idk i never played i
<Anton{Politoed}>
yeah that's the next topic
<NSY>
Most write ins were two
<NSY>
Not enough
<_2257>
this award was my idea
<_2257>
like 5 years ago
<_2257>
im so disappointed
<Anton{Politoed}>
the only thing I'm gonna do without permission is just add "/"Ukiki" to grinder
<Uniju>
she had a good life
<Anton{Politoed}>
so I'm gonna do that now
<turb>
we can still save her
<SonicMario>
We could add Magikoopas :V (j/k Anton. Don't fire me, consider it an april fools joke)
<_2257>
or i guess i mean most underwhelming boss
<turb>
oh
<turb>
rip
Anton{Politoed}beats you up
<Tailmon>
your award sucks
<_2257>
you suck
<Nyrie>
whatr
<Nyrie>
ukikoi
<Nyrie>
like the monkey?
<Anton{Politoed}>
yes
<Meta_Knight>
is that really an enemy
<Lakituthequick>
Ukikis,[1] also known as Grinders[2] or simply monkeys,[3]
<turb>
the ukikis from sm64 and the grinders from yi are canonically the same enemy
<Anton{Politoed}>
it's already on the award
<_2257>
because theres a monkey enemy called grinder, and also a saw enemy called grinder
<Anton{Politoed}>
I'm just adding its other name
<Lakituthequick>
sources on that page tho
<NSY>
are they the ones from yi?
<Anton{Politoed}>
it's just a thing I'm announcing that I'm doing
<Anton{Politoed}>
are there no other new nominees for this?
<Tailmon>
what were the write ins
<Anton{Politoed}>
O. Boo – 2 O. Mini Goomba – 2 O. Chain Chomp – 1
<Anton{Politoed}>
then like 5000 more with just 1
<Meta_Knight>
anything from paper jam that was bad?
<Tailmon>
not really then
<turb>
if you add boo ill ritually sacrifice someone here
<Nyrie>
add kamek/paper kamek
<Chiaki_Nanami>
that's
<Chiaki_Nanami>
a
<Chiaki_Nanami>
boss
<turb>
i would say not add anything because off the top of my head there were no new really shit enemies in paper jam
<turb>
otherwise i would have heard about them by now
<Nyrie>
there weren't
<turb>
if this award stys and they get writeins they can go on next year
<Nyrie>
it was easy
<Chiaki_Nanami>
wow I managed to confuse enter for space bar good job myself
<Gamefreak75>
broozers if you were shoe farming
<Gamefreak75>
but thats it
<Anton{Politoed}>
yeah if nothing really twisted anyone's panties enough to be memorable then there's nothing worth adding
<mcd>
yeah
<Gamefreak75>
yeah next
<Anton{Politoed}>
this award is spared
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<Anton{Politoed}>
F8 Worst Mario Kart Course (Choco Mountain, Sky Garden, Shy Guy Beach, Rainbow Road (SNES), Yoshi Falls, Grumble Volcano, Sherbet Land (N64), Koopa Beach 2, Banshee Boardwalk, Maple Treeway, Maka Wuhu, Rosalina’s Ice World, Rainbow Road (Wii), Dolphin Shoals, Bone-Dry Dunes)
<NSY>
Sherbet Land (N64) – 28 (5.21%) Yoshi Falls – 25 (4.83%) Rosalina's Ice World – 24 (4.63%) Maple Treeway – 18 (3.47%) Koopa Beach 2 – 16 (3.09%) Dolphin Shoals – 14 (2.7%) O. Rainbow Road (N64) – 7 O. Baby Park – 5 O. Cheese Land – 3 O. Rainbow Road (GBA) – 3
<Gamefreak75>
skip?
<Toadbert>
sherbet land was the one with the snowmen right
<Gamefreak75>
unless there was a write in that did good
<Uniju>
looks pretty skippable
<turb>
it was the one with the penguins
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<Toadbert>
o
<turb>
frappe snowland was the snowmen
<Chiaki_Nanami>
wait
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<Chiaki_Nanami>
oh
<Nyrie>
[8:46:34 PM] Sasha: tell the awards meeting my computer fucked and i can't get back in for a bit, if at all
<Chiaki_Nanami>
why isn't the gamecube version of Sherbet Land in
<Nyrie>
that's star btw
<Chiaki_Nanami>
it's the worst thing
<turb>
i kept wanting to ask "HURR DIDNT MARIO KART 8 JUST COME OUT" but i remembered that was like 2 years ago
<Chiaki_Nanami>
I hate it
<NSY>
I liked that course
<turb>
uh, i guess this award is fine then
<Nabber>
i like gamecube sherbert land but maybe that's just nostalgia
<Nabber>
skip
<NSY>
most people like that course
<Chiaki_Nanami>
i don't
<Meta_Knight>
i thought sherbet gamecube was boring too
<turb>
unless we're desperate to add n64 rr for some reason but _
<Tailmon>
the better question is why did dolphin shoals come in last
<Meta_Knight>
i dont like it
<Lakituthequick>
thx Nyrie
<turb>
also gcn sherbet is alright
<Toadbert>
oh good god
<Tailmon>
shitty course
<Toadbert>
its happening again
<Toadbert>
22
<Toadbert>
help
<Tailmon>
also i'm going to say skip
<Chiaki_Nanami>
it's literally my least favourite from double dash
<turb>
toadbert
<_2257>
oh tb
<_2257>
i'm not on the same server as you this time i guess
<NSY>
because voters don't have any sense
<_2257>
i'm not seeing any unusual activity
<Anton{Politoed}>
well if people want to skip it let's do that
<turb>
yeah let's do that
<Anton{Politoed}>
so next is actually the award we were gonna cut and I completely forgot so
<Anton{Politoed}>
F9 Worst Final Smash (Puff Up (Jigglypuff), Konga Beat (Donkey Kong), Palutena’s Army (Pit), Mario Finale (Mario), Cook Kirby (Kirby), Beast Ganon (Ganondorf), Power Suit Samus (Zero Suit Samus), Peach Blossom (Peach), Dream Home (Villager), Power Star (Rosalina), Negative Zone (Luigi), Octopus (Mr. Game & Watch), Super Sonic (Sonic), Super Pac-Man (Pac-Man),
<Anton{Politoed}>
Dedede Burst (King Dedede))
<Anton{Politoed}>
we're getting rid of this in our non-mario purge
<turb>
it's a pretty bad award
<Meta_Knight>
i agree that this one can go
<Anton{Politoed}>
does anyone object
<turb>
i don't want it anymore
<NSY>
get rid of it
<Meta_Knight>
i dont even use final smashes anymore
<Chiaki_Nanami>
remove
<Packy>
destroy
<Chiaki_Nanami>
delet
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
exodia, obliterate
<Chiaki_Nanami>
delet this
<Tailmon>
you may kill it
<NSY>
it's a streaming pile of goat shit
<Packy>
delet
<Toadbert>
kill
<Uniju>
rip
<Packy>
eliminate
Chiaki_Nanaminukes F9
<Mariofan169>
exterminate
<Nabber>
agree
<NSY>
rip in peace
<Stooben>
i don't hate it, but if you're getting rid of the rest of the non-mario, why stop here
<Packy>
PI WOAH
<Chiaki_Nanami>
packy nuke F9
<DragonFreak>
what he said
<Packy>
ok :')
<Anton{Politoed}>
removing this now frees up enough space for the 4 new ideas we have
<Tailmon>
i don't really hate it either
<Anton{Politoed}>
so that's gr8
Packy prepares the nukes
<Tailmon>
but it's not the best award
Packy nukes F9
<Anton{Politoed}>
next then is
<Tailmon>
nuke norway
<Stooben>
it is a bit of a stretch admittedly
<Chiaki_Nanami>
do not nuke Norway
<Packy>
OK O3O
Gamefreak75 jumps in front of the nuke
<Packy>
ok :'(
Packy nukes Gamefreak75
<Meta_Knight>
can we chill out with the nukes
<Tailmon>
you killed gamefreak
<Anton{Politoed}>
F10 Worst Game Mechanic (previously Worst Concept) (Dimension Flip (Super Paper Mario), Star Bits (Super Mario Galaxy & 2), Camera (3D Mario games), Vibes (Super Princess Peach), Joystick Twirling (Mario Party 1-3), Limited Inventory (Paper Mario and Paper Mario TTYD), Stickers (PMSS), Button Mashing (Mario Party), Gyroscope Controls (Nintendo 3DS),
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vehicles (Mario Party 9-10), Life Counter)
<Chiaki_Nanami>
Joystick twirling is only in MP1
<turb>
life counter is marked as unsure and i forgot why
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i believe the timer came up
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i think we were iffy on it
<Anton{Politoed}>
yeah what turb said
<turb>
timer and linearity were things
<turb>
also no it's in all 3 to some extent
<Anton{Politoed}>
life counter was an idea edo had
<Mariofan169>
nothing I can think of
<turb>
im fairly sure
<Chiaki_Nanami>
no
<Anton{Politoed}>
22 what was it
<Chiaki_Nanami>
it's only in 1
<turb>
it's just not as present as in 1
<turb>
really
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i have a question
<Gamefreak75>
pi i think theres some fly guy minigame in mp2
<_2257>
22 what was what?
<Gamefreak75>
or toy
<Chiaki_Nanami>
it was entirely replaced with button mashing in 2 and 3
<Chiaki_Nanami>
no, that was in 1
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
if we say timer, life counter, and linearity are all shit
<Anton{Politoed}>
the concern with Life Counter
<Meta_Knight>
i think it had something to do with the fact that the life counter is outdated
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
...what's left?
<Chiaki_Nanami>
everything with joystick twirling is in 1
<Chiaki_Nanami>
2 and 3 do not have any of that
<Meta_Knight>
and i meant the restricted timer
<_2257>
uhhhh i dont think gabumon had a concern with it
<Meta_Knight>
not the regular timer
<Chiaki_Nanami>
it's just button mashing in 2 and 3
<_2257>
he suggested it
<Meta_Knight>
the levels that give you only 10 seconds
<Meta_Knight>
and you have to collect clocks along the way
<NSY>
Button mashing is still painful
<Anton{Politoed}>
oh yeah that was it
<_2257>
because it was "a way of forcing people to put more quarters in the machine that became outdated when home consoles came out and made video games not pay=per-play"
<Toadbert>
oh dear
<Toadbert>
its been 2 minutes
<Toadbert>
no ones said anything
<Toadbert>
you know what that means
<Chiaki_Nanami>
it's a factual error to mention how a mechanic is in a game where it is not
<Anton{Politoed}>
I should have different blues
<_2257>
or something like that
<Lakituthequick>
"(previously Worst Concept)" -- this was on the list last year too
<Anton{Politoed}>
anyways as for Joystick Twirling
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
rip TB, now in the vortex
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
also wait you mean life counter as in life /system/, okay
<Anton{Politoed}>
I spent like 17 years last year trying to figure out which games it was in and no one answered
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i thoughtit meant like
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
HP
<Chiaki_Nanami>
oh
<Anton{Politoed}>
if there's an answer this year just message me or something and it's a simple fix, nothing to debate about
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
as in "the worst game mechanic is that mario can take X amounts of hits before he dies"
<Chiaki_Nanami>
i do have an answer, so
<Toadbert>
hello
<Toadbert>
im the last man on earth again
<Chiaki_Nanami>
toadbert connect to a good server
<Chiaki_Nanami>
there's a canadian one — connect to that
<Tailmon>
welcome to hell tb
<turb>
well
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<turb>
im fine with life counter i think
<_2257>
i feel like we debate joystick twirlding every year
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<_2257>
for the past 3 years
<_2257>
but pidgey is really right
<Stooben>
it has definitely been a discussion before
<_2257>
its only in mp1
<Anton{Politoed}>
ok
<Anton{Politoed}>
it's fixed then
<_2257>
the twirly flyguy minigame was in mp1
<Tailmon>
next year we will debate to add in back in for no reason
<_2257>
a different flyguy minigame was in 2 and it had a different control scheme
<Tailmon>
i'm ok with life counter
<Chiaki_Nanami>
same here
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i'm iffy on life counter
<_2257>
i guess maybe thats why people misremember?
<Anton{Politoed}>
well let's get to voting on the 3 new ideas then
<_2257>
life counter is specifically about
<_2257>
extra lives
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
yes
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
and i'm still iffy on that
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i would have said outright no if it was hp system
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
but
<_2257>
well im just saying if we add it that should probably be clear
<_2257>
so people dont think it means hp
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
oh, yes, that definitely needs to made more obvious
<turb>
"Extra Life System"
<_2257>
"life counter" could be either
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
*to be
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
considering i thought it was hp and all :V
<Anton{Politoed}>
good idea turb
<Tailmon>
extra life system would be better wording yeah
<Toadbert>
o god
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
toadbert
<Toadbert>
im back baby
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
u suck
<Lakituthequick>
desn't the entire series live (heh) on such systems since the first game
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
yes
<Meta_Knight>
but its outdated
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Add 'Extra Life system' to F10 Worst Game Mechanic? (y/n/a)
<_2257>
the point isnt how many games its in really
<Meta_Knight>
y
<Lakituthequick>
a
<NSY>
y
<Chiaki_Nanami>
y
<_2257>
y
<mcd>
a
<Uniju>
a
<Anton{Politoed}>
y
<turb>
y
<SonicMario>
a
<Chiaki_Nanami>
(I like it but I know others don't)
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
n
<Tailmon>
i don't i think it's pretty ointless at this point
<Tailmon>
y
<Tailmon>
pointless
<Tailmon>
it might be ointless too
<Tailmon>
7-1-4
<mcd>
is there any oint to it
<Chiaki_Nanami>
ointment?
<NSY>
its only there for traditional reasons
<mcd>
if not then yes it's ointless
<Packy>
y
<Tailmon>
8-0-0
<Tailmon>
...
<Tailmon>
i'm stupid excuse me
<Tailmon>
8-1-4
<Chiaki_Nanami>
no
<Chiaki_Nanami>
packy is half a vote
<NSY>
change to a
<Packy>
:'(
<Tailmon>
oh i
<NSY>
I'm eh on it
<Tailmon>
forgot he wasn't ac this year
<Toadbert>
a
<Packy>
anton wouldn't accept my love earlier~~~
<Toadbert>
(assuming you can read this)
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
>smasher trying to bury my dissent
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<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i see how it is
<Tailmon>
6.5-1-6
<Anton{Politoed}>
either way it passes
<Anton{Politoed}>
what were the other ideas
Packy becomes oscar the grouch
<Anton{Politoed}>
timer and linearity?
<Toadbert>
whats linearity
<Toadbert>
no map overworld?
<Lakituthequick>
go from a to b
<Lakituthequick>
no exploring
<Anton{Politoed}>
Linearity in 3D Levels, specifically
<Toadbert>
oh
<Lakituthequick>
yea that too
<Chiaki_Nanami>
there is exploring
<NSY>
no alternate paths
<NSY>
no openness
<Chiaki_Nanami>
what is an alternate path
<Chiaki_Nanami>
no, what is an alternate path
<Chiaki_Nanami>
define this
<Lakituthequick>
go from a to c via either b or d?
<_2257>
when there are multiple paths to the destination
<NSY>
places that lead to secret exits
<NSY>
or another route to beating a level
<Chiaki_Nanami>
is a warp pipe enough to disqualify a level from being linear?
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<NSY>
not really
<Chiaki_Nanami>
but
<Chiaki_Nanami>
you have multiple paths
<NSY>
but if it's significant enough
<Chiaki_Nanami>
take the warp pipe, don't take the warp pipe
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<NSY>
then it's less linear
<_2257>
well i would have said yes tbh
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
but what makes it significant enough
<turb>
personally i think that if this is going to devolve into a clusterfuck of no one being able to find a definition we just shouldn't add it
<_2257>
but its not an absolute binary distinction
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
^
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<Uniju>
to clarify incase people thought i said linearity should be on worst game mechanic, i was actually talking about putting it on worst game direction since the general sentiment that people have when they talk about their dissatisfaction with
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
this idea feels too subjective to properly place
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<Nabber>
yeah i agree with uniju
<turb>
is worst game direction an award
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
yes
<Uniju>
linearity seems to be more about the differences between sm64/sms/smg and sm3dl/w
<turb>
i know we have worst series direction
<turb>
fuck
<NSY>
not yet
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
same thing
<turb>
oh good point actually
<turb>
framing it as those differences would work well on series direction
<Anton{Politoed}>
so no vote then
<_2257>
also, alternate paths arent actually necessary for it to be non-linear
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
correct
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
it's not going on here
<Anton{Politoed}>
rather than spending the next hour defining this one option, let's discuss this on the forums
<Anton{Politoed}>
so what's the timer thing about then
<Meta_Knight>
the restricted timer
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
overly low timers
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<Gamefreak75>
where are we right now
<Anton{Politoed}>
is it literally just gonna be "Timers"
<Meta_Knight>
like in nsmblu where you only habe 99 seconds
<Anton{Politoed}>
F10 Worst Game Mechanic
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
like the levels in 3D Land where you are given 10 seconds
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
and need to collect clocks
<NSY>
it was used well in nslu and some levels in 3D world
<Gamefreak75>
ok
<Meta_Knight>
and those
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i would oppose "timers" in general
<Chiaki_Nanami>
i would also oppose that
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
Restrictively Low Timers?
<NSY>
timer has never been a hiddance
<Tailmon>
restrictively low timers could be ok
<Tailmon>
timers in general wouldn't
<Chiaki_Nanami>
only in favour of it if it's the levels in 3d world
<_2257>
well, timers are a game mechanic
<Toadbert>
timers are hardly ever an issue to me personally
<Chiaki_Nanami>
the levels in NSLU were /designed/ with having 100 seconds in question
<_2257>
i don't see why they would be ineligible
<Toadbert>
nintendos pretty generous with that
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<NSY>
the only level I remember the timer was a pain in was that boss rush from 3d world
<Chiaki_Nanami>
and an NSLU second is longer than a regular Mario second anyway
<_2257>
low timers seem more like a level concept than a game mechanic tbh
<_2257>
since theyre uh, not mechanically part of the game as a whole
<Anton{Politoed}>
didn't we decide to not put it in level concept, though
<Anton{Politoed}>
because people thought it would work better here
<_2257>
i thought that was linearity
<Anton{Politoed}>
it was both
<_2257>
really?
<Anton{Politoed}>
if it wasn't then no one corrected me
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
yeah it was both
<turb>
i do vaguely remember something about timers being in here yeah
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i felt timers fit better as a mechanic
<_2257>
ok but low timers are literally not a game mechanic
<_2257>
timers in general are
<Anton{Politoed}>
I agree with 22 on this
<_2257>
but low timers are an aspect of level design
<Nabber>
yeah low timers are a level mechanic
<Anton{Politoed}>
yeah, level
<Tailmon>
ok that makes sense
<Anton{Politoed}>
this is annoying
<Anton{Politoed}>
whoever wants to add this as an option to wherever, please state what it is and where
<Anton{Politoed}>
because my default is no decision
<_2257>
low timers should be added to worst level concept
<turb>
i agree with that
<_2257>
pplain "timers" could be added to worst game mechanic i guess
<Lakituthequick>
per
<Toadbert>
have low timers really been a thing in new games
<_2257>
but im not sure anyone actually wants the latter
<Toadbert>
if they have been id support that
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<turb>
yeah in 3d land and 3d world theres occasionally levels like that i think
<_2257>
yeah
<_2257>
i can vouch for their existence
<_2257>
you get a really low timer and have to collect clocks to increase the time remaining
yeah nintendo wants you to go really fast so you don't realize how little effort they put into it
<Toadbert>
y
<Nabber>
a
<Lakituthequick>
a
<turb>
y
<Packy>
Y
<Tailmon>
6.5-0-3
<_2257>
its not actually like funky, tb
<Chiaki_Nanami>
y
<_2257>
these timers are on the order of 10 seconds
<Tailmon>
7.5-0-3
<NSY>
they aren't that bad
<Meta_Knight>
the worst part is they're the exactly the same levels as ones you've already played
<Meta_Knight>
they could've made those in a time trial mode
<_2257>
and you literally cant win without getting clocks
<_2257>
funky gave you like ... idk, at least 200 seconds
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<_2257>
you didn't need to use the green apples
<Anton{Politoed}>
so that passes
<Anton{Politoed}>
anything else for F10?
<Tailmon>
i think that's it
<turb>
i dont particularly want timers in general on here
<Tailmon>
i don't either
<Toadbert>
oh so its like
<Toadbert>
mario meets warioware
<Toadbert>
except warioware is fun and whimsical
<Uniju>
i assume its like those levels where you have to keep getting stars so you can walk on spikes except implemented in the timer
<Tailmon>
i don't really think they're disliked or problematic enough
<Toadbert>
oh
<Toadbert>
thats a good point
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz4TjIMShYM
<Anton{Politoed}>
F11 Biggest Missed Opportunity (Super Mario Bros. 3 e-Reader Cards, Sony Partnership Failure, Transphobia (Vivian, Birdo), Underproducing Amiibos, Super Mario Spikers cancellation, Mario Takes America cancellation, Donkey Kong Coconut Crackers cancellation, Failure of the Mario Artist series, Mario & Wario not being localized,
<Anton{Politoed}>
Wrecking Crew '98 not being localized, Paper Mario: Sticker Star early build, Donkey Kong Racing cancellation, Super Mario's Wacky Worlds cancellation)
<Toadbert>
have continuous star grab levelsbeen added
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
here's a good example
<Anton{Politoed}>
only concern I had in the notes was rewording the transphobia one
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
weren' there only like
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
2 of those ever
<Toadbert>
maybe
<Toadbert>
i dunno
<Anton{Politoed}>
Donkey Kong Coconut Crackers cancellation – 8 (1.07%) Mario Takes America cancellation – 6 (0.8%) O. Waluigi not having his own game – 2
<turb>
yeah i wanted to bring that up too
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i recall one in yoshi's island original
<Nabber>
can we add "killing the paper mario series"
<turb>
it's worded awkwardly
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
maybe a second
<Nabber>
or "not continuing rpg paper mario"
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
that's series directon, nabber
<Nabber>
eh i guess
<Nabber>
feels like like a direction and more like two separate series
<Nabber>
maybe no mobile mario game?
<Anton{Politoed}>
miitomo
<Anton{Politoed}>
it's a start
<Anton{Politoed}>
can't really call it a miss opportunity when it's something they're working towards
<Anton{Politoed}>
missed*
<turb>
^
<Tailmon>
^
<SonicMario>
They'll probably have one eventually. They're testing the waters with Miitomo right now.
<Nabber>
well we don't know if they're making a mario game
<Uniju>
didnt we just decide on a new wording for it a meeting or two ago
<Uniju>
the transphobia one
<Tailmon>
i think we did
<turb>
we don't know but we also
<turb>
don't have confirmation they aren't
<Tailmon>
i...don't remember what it was, tho
<turb>
i don't remember what it was either
<Anton{Politoed}>
21:33Anton{Politoed}"Properly addressing trans issues" sounds21:33Anton{Politoed}concise 21:34Stargazing"trans support" is a good way to word it tbh 21:34Gabumonid say something like "representing" instead of "addressing"
<Anton{Politoed}>
that was the most solid answer we got to
<turb>
i was always wondering how to word it re: the title though
<Anton{Politoed}>
yeah
<turb>
if "properly representing trans issues" would be better with a "not" at the front
<Anton{Politoed}>
I'd say that's too wordy but
<Anton{Politoed}>
every other nominee is a paragraph as well
<turb>
yeah
<Tailmon>
yeah
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<Tailmon>
in this case i think "Not properly representing trans issues" would be fine
<Nyrie>
"Improperly representating" could work too i guess?
<Meta_Knight>
Misrepresentation?
<Uniju>
okay nyrie i think the title is long enough
<Lakituthequick>
you could represent anything improperly though
<turb>
mk's suggestion sounds fine
<_2257>
does it really need a not
<Stooben>
per 22
<Anton{Politoed}>
Biggest Missed Opportunity: Misrepresenting Trans Issues
<Stooben>
proper representation is the missed opportunity
<Anton{Politoed}>
as a sentence how does that sound
<_2257>
when we have things like
<_2257>
"paper mario sticker star early build"
<_2257>
where there's not even an action implied
<_2257>
and people just have to intuit that we mean the missed opportunity was not making the actual game more like that
<turb>
yeah
<Tailmon>
fair enough
<turb>
i'd say either that or properly representing is fine anton
<turb>
idc either way
<turb>
im pretty sure that with either one people can understand what it's trying to convey
<Nyrie>
wait is the killing paper mario idea going to be put in the "worst series direction" award
<Anton{Politoed}>
Properly Representing Trans Issues
<Anton{Politoed}>
if that doesn't sound fine we'll get write-ins calling us shitlords
<Anton{Politoed}>
so let's just take it and see what happens
<turb>
yeah go with that
<DragonFreak>
that sounds good
<SonicMario>
Nyrie: Probably not worded like that but probably
<turb>
i mean we didn't get shitlords accusing us of just saying "Transphobia"
<Toadbert>
i eagerly await this years bloopers
<turb>
so hopefuly this will work out
<_2257>
if people are stupid enough to think we meant that the missed opportunity was the opportunity to be /worse/ about trans issues
<_2257>
its their own damn fault for being stupid
<turb>
exactly
<Anton{Politoed}>
ok so that's reworded now
<Nyrie>
when will nintendo accept the fact that motley bossblob is agender
<Lakituthequick>
anton are you using chrome
<_2257>
lol
<Anton{Politoed}>
no, why
<Lakituthequick>
you can paste without style with ctrl+shift+v in that
<NSY>
aren't toads agender as well?
<Lakituthequick>
dunno if other browsers have tthat too
<Nyrie>
toads are agender
<Gabumon>
are they
<Anton{Politoed}>
I mean it took 2 seconds to fix
<Nyrie>
not really
<Gabumon>
wasnt that an exact wording thing
<_2257>
wasnt "toads are agender" a mistranslation
<Nyrie>
motley bossblob was born as a male
<NSY>
Nintendo did confirm it I think
<Lakituthequick>
i know, just a tip
<Nyrie>
but chose to identify as agender
<Gabumon>
I remember making a post about that but I dont remember what it was
<_2257>
for one thing, i don't know that japanese even has words to distinguish between agender and sexless
<_2257>
i've never heard such words anyway
<Anton{Politoed}>
what is this topic leading towards
<Anton{Politoed}>
another nomination?
<_2257>
no not really
<Lakituthequick>
the gender of motey bossblob apparently
<Anton{Politoed}>
ok, are there any other suggestions for this then
<_2257>
no that was a joke
<Meta_Knight>
no
<_2257>
we're not nominating motley bossblob's gender
<Chiaki_Nanami>
no
<Tailmon>
no
<turb>
worst quest?
<Anton{Politoed}>
ok so with that the only change was rewording
<Anton{Politoed}>
I'm ok with that
<turb>
if no one has anything else for this year
<turb>
h*
<Chiaki_Nanami>
post the list
<Anton{Politoed}>
thanks pidgey I needed the command to do it otherwise it wouldn't have happened
<Anton{Politoed}>
F12Worst Quest (previously Worst Sidequest) (Boshi Race (SMRPG), Yoshi Eggs (SMA), Blue Coins (SMS), Rabbits (SM64DS), Pit of 100 Trials (SPM), Piccolo (SPM), Duel of 100 (SPM), World 9 (NSMBW), Letters (PM1), One Million Coins (NSMB2), Green Stars (SMG2), Completing every level with every character (SM3DW), Star/Moon Coin Challenges (Mario Golf: World Tour))
<Chiaki_Nanami>
sorry
<Anton{Politoed}>
edo you're here just in time, this is a thing you brought up
<Gabumon>
yes
<Nabber>
can we add general whitebob or whatever his name is?
quest feels like a word that belongs in zelda, not mario
<Gabumon>
also adding the General White chase would be a possibility, yes
<NSY>
worst game objective is better
<turb>
i agree with game objective
<Packy>
I can agree with that
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i'd be down for general white
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
whadda fucker
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
also i already agreed to name chane
<Gamefreak75>
i agree with game objective andgeneral white
<NSY>
and don't limit it to sidequests
<Packy>
general white was the goddamn worst
<Toadbert>
i personally dont get the confusion with "quest"
<Anton{Politoed}>
let's decide on the name change first
<Uniju>
per all
<Toadbert>
considering most of these come from rpg games
<Gabumon>
which I guess also solves the dilemma with side objective versus game objective
<Gabumon>
since the general white chase is mandatory
<Gabumon>
so
<Gabumon>
game objective it is
<Toadbert>
quest is what i'd knee-jerk call all of those things
<Anton{Politoed}>
is there anyone that opposes this to the point of calling a vote on it
<_2257>
well its like
<Toadbert>
but it just comes down to semantics
<Anton{Politoed}>
if so we can open discussion further
<_2257>
we dont want it to be restricted to rpg quests
<turb>
game objective is more encompassing so i'd prefer that
<Toadbert>
well still
<Gabumon>
If I had to go for a knee-jerk name, id call the award "worst tedium"
<Toadbert>
id call anything out of an rpg a quest
<Tailmon>
per turb
<_2257>
even if all of the nominees are actually rpg quests, we want something more open for the sake of write-ins
<turb>
^
<Packy>
^^
<Gamefreak75>
V
<Toadbert>
im pretty sure i called my journey to complete my melee trophy collection a quest many times lol
<Toadbert>
so i guess its just me
<Uniju>
did you actually do that without any humour or irony in it
<Gabumon>
[03:27] Toadbert considering most of these come from rpg games
<Gabumon>
I dont see it
<Meta_Knight>
game objective sounds cleaner
<Gabumon>
theres a good deal of nominees on there not from rpgs
<Toadbert>
yeah actually i dont see it either
<Tailmon>
if anything i think
<Toadbert>
that spm concentration in the middle messed me up
<Tailmon>
the minority is from rpgs
<NSY>
game objective sounds a lot less fancy
<Toadbert>
my brain isnt all here this friday
<_2257>
we dont want it to sound fancy
<Toadbert>
<Uniju> did you actually do that without any humour or irony in it
<Gabumon>
Blue Coins (SMS), Rabbits (SM64DS), World 9 (NSMBW), One Million Coins (NSMB2), Green Stars (SMG2), Completing every level with every character (SM3DW), Star/Moon Coin Challenges (Mario Golf: World Tour)
<_2257>
we want it to clearly explain what we mean
<Toadbert>
well i mean i probably said to be funny but
<NSY>
that's my point 22
<Toadbert>
im sure i referred to it by quest many times out of habit
<Gabumon>
these are all non-rpg objectives
<NSY>
I don't want fancy names
<_2257>
er ok
<Toadbert>
yeah i take back the point about rpgs
<Tailmon>
yoshi eggs too
<Tailmon>
that's 8 out of 13 sooo
<Chiaki_Nanami>
Fibbonachi!
<Chiaki_Nanami>
yay!
<Gabumon>
I couldnt recall what SMA is, and I didnt want to tab out of the meeting to look it up on the wiki, so I just left it out for convenience's sake
<Toadbert>
you dont have to tally this smasher im already beaten to death
<Anton{Politoed}>
so everyone is ok with Worst Game Objective?
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
super mario advance
<Toadbert>
im already dead
<turb>
i am
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i am
<_2257>
y
<Packy>
y
<Uniju>
yeah
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
y
<DragonFreak>
y
<Nabber>
yeah
<Tailmon>
y
<Lakituthequick>
y
<Toadbert>
shore
<turb>
y
<Chiaki_Nanami>
y
<Tailmon>
a
<SonicMario>
y
<Chiaki_Nanami>
~
<Gabumon>
y
<Tailmon>
"yay~"
<Gamefreak75>
y
<NSY>
yes
<Anton{Politoed}>
with the name change passing, are there any changes to be made to the nominees?
<Tailmon>
general white
<_2257>
add general white?
<Meta_Knight>
yeah
<turb>
changes to existing nominees shouldn't be an issue
<Anton{Politoed}>
Letters (PM1) – 13 (1.82%) Yoshi Eggs (SMA) – 13 (1.82%) O. World Crown (SM3DW) – 2
<Gabumon>
add the General White chase
<turb>
but add general white
<Gabumon>
(PM:TTYD)
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Add 'General White chase (PM:TTYD)' to F12 Worst Game Objective? (y/n/a)
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
y
<SonicMario>
y
<NSY>
y
<Tailmon>
y
<mcd>
y
<Meta_Knight>
y
<Gabumon>
y
<turb>
y
<_2257>
y
<Nabber>
y
<Stooben>
good god yes
<Uniju>
y
<Toadbert>
y
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
everyone hates general white
<Gamefreak75>
y
<Packy>
y in every way possible pls
<Chiaki_Nanami>
y
<Lakituthequick>
y
<Tailmon>
16.5-0-0
<Anton{Politoed}>
gr8
<Tailmon>
i almost put in "165"
<Gabumon>
well I wouldnt say I hate it, its just something dumb I grit my teeth through
<Anton{Politoed}>
any other suggestions?
<Gabumon>
idk why they put it in, and then added an optional second round as if they thought this would catch on somehow
<Nabber>
there's a second round?
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
one of the troubles
<Packy>
is that from the help / problems thing?
<Packy>
oh troubles
<Gabumon>
I think theres a trouble in the trouble center
<Anton{Politoed}>
if that's it then we can move onto the next
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
there is
<Nabber>
oh yeah i think i saw that and was like "nope"
<Gabumon>
where you get to do it again
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
you have to deliver something from goldbob to general white
<Packy>
I forgot what it was called
<Tailmon>
well it's certainly troublesome
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
but white runs around the world
<Anton{Politoed}>
F13 Most Underwhelming Boss (Tubba Blubba, Monstar, Bowser (Super Mario Sunshine), Bowser (SMG2), Cloud N. Candy, King Kaliente (2nd fight), Super Dimentio, Bowser (PM:SS))
<Anton{Politoed}>
there was talk to remove this award as well, we just don't have a idea made up and ready to replace it
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
cut it, cloud n candy will win again
<Anton{Politoed}>
the results are almost always the same
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
every timem
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
he wil never stop winning
<Gabumon>
why is monstar on that list
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
ever
<Gabumon>
that fight is SUPPOSED to be underwhelming
<Gabumon>
thats the whole joke
<Tailmon>
replace every nominee with cloud n. candy
<Stooben>
^
<Chiaki_Nanami>
^
<_2257>
ok this was my award
<Packy>
^
<_2257>
so disappointing
<Anton{Politoed}>
if we replace this that means we need to brainstorm another nominee on the forum
<Anton{Politoed}>
I mean, another award
<mcd>
i had another award in mind
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i'm cool wi- oh?
<Tailmon>
what is it
<mcd>
i mentioned it last week but idk if anything came from that
<Gabumon>
worst hat?
<turb>
i mean the only way we can salvage this is cutting cloud n candy and monstar
<mcd>
something like 'most disappointing game' using the nominees from last year's 'most anticipated game'
<turb>
for being intentionally underwhelming
<turb>
but even then it would probably suck
<Anton{Politoed}>
oh, lol, well
<turb>
i guess that's an alright idea
<_2257>
i hate cutting popular nominees to engineer a new winner
<Gabumon>
you cant cut a nominee for winning
<Anton{Politoed}>
we had the idea to rename Worst Game into Most Disappointing Game
<Anton{Politoed}>
so
<turb>
yeah me too
<_2257>
we should just get rid of it completely if thats the only other choice
<turb>
that's why it should probably just be axed completely
<mcd>
oh ok
<mcd>
also per 22
<Anton{Politoed}>
the rename would help the meme votes fuck right on off
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
yes
<Anton{Politoed}>
but mcd I'm glad you came up with that idea independently because that means it's a good idea
<Anton{Politoed}>
either way we have plenty of time to brainstorm another award idea
<Anton{Politoed}>
just to make it official let's vote on it
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Remove Most Underwhelming Boss as F13? (y/n/a)
<Chiaki_Nanami>
y
<SonicMario>
y
<Gabumon>
a
<Lakituthequick>
a
<_2257>
y ;_;
<Uniju>
a
<turb>
y
<Tailmon>
a
<mcd>
y
<Tailmon>
5-0-4
<DragonFreak>
y
<Gabumon>
"yayayayay"
<Toadbert>
a
<NSY>
y
<Anton{Politoed}>
worst case is we can't come up with a new idea and we just prop this one back up
<Stooben>
a
<Gamefreak75>
rip a legendary award
<Tailmon>
7-0-6
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<Chiaki_Nanami>
a legendary piece of shit award
<Gamefreak75>
rude
<Tailmon>
22's baby is dead
<Mariofan169>
is it worst koopaling
<Anton{Politoed}>
1/3 of Fail Awards are being removed
<Gamefreak75>
i presented this award like 4 years ago but all the pictures are gone because lol imageshack
<_2257>
T_T
<DragonFreak>
it's ok 22 can have a new baby sometime else
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
IMAGESHACK
<Anton{Politoed}>
with that we can move on
<DragonFreak>
i hope
Raiko_Chaorikawa convulses
<Anton{Politoed}>
F14 Worst Location (Flipside/Flopside (SPM), The Toxic Waterfall/Lily Pad Ride (SMS), Corona Mountain (SMS), Subcon (SMB2), Banshee Boardwalk (MK64), Star Carnival (MP8), Twilight Trail (PMTTYD), Long Fall Falls (PMSS), Cave (DKCR))
none of the nominees that are there really deserve to be removed
<Tailmon>
per
<Nyrie>
skip?
<mcd>
or make a fail fail awards for bad fail awards
<mcd>
also per anton
<Chiaki_Nanami>
^
<Packy>
Don't Move Levels (SMM)
<Packy>
(just joking)
<Gamefreak75>
anything in dream team people found extra shitty?
<Uniju>
skip
<DragonFreak>
is there anything in paper jam that sucked?
<Gamefreak75>
er
<Gamefreak75>
paper jam
<Gamefreak75>
not dream team
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
thanks gamefreak
<Tailmon>
skip unless anyone has a good idea for an addition
<Gabumon>
I wanted to post something about that award, but I never got around to it
<SonicMario>
Packy: We already added that to level concepts
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i appreciate the help
<Packy>
oh
<Packy>
ffffff
<Nyrie>
all the locations in paper jam are forgettable and generic
<Nyrie>
nothing really to hate
<Packy>
I wasn't here for that I don't think ;-;
<Packy>
ignore me then~~
<Gabumon>
can we delay a decision on that
<Gabumon>
or would that fuck up the schedule
<Nyrie>
there wasn't anything super bad
<Anton{Politoed}>
we can skip it then come back to it next meeting
<Gabumon>
ok
<Anton{Politoed}>
I'll keep it in the yellow highlight
<Nyrie>
add the excess express
<Gabumon>
lets do that
<Gamefreak75>
next meeting is when the other nominations for fails are closed, right?
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
>the excess express
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
nyrie
<Tailmon>
remove nyrie
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
go
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
pls, go
<Anton{Politoed}>
I believe so, gf
<Gamefreak75>
add glitz pit
<Nyrie>
m8
<_2257>
remove nyrie
<Gamefreak75>
ok
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
Worst User: Nyrie, Gamefreak75
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
y/n
<Tailmon>
y
<SonicMario>
xD
<Uniju>
y
<Chiaki_Nanami>
y
<Nyrie>
n
<DragonFreak>
n
<Anton{Politoed}>
let's move on
<Gamefreak75>
a
<NSY>
y
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
ok
<turb>
yeah move on
<Anton{Politoed}>
because this next one will potentially have a lot to discuss
<Anton{Politoed}>
F15 Worst Game (Mario is Missing!, Mario Teaches Typing & 2, Mario's Time Machine, Mario Clash, New Super Mario Bros. 2, Paper Mario: Sticker Star, Yoshi’s New Island, Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games, Mario Party 10)
<DragonFreak>
i have moral obligations not to say nyrie or gf as worst users
<Anton{Politoed}>
the first thing before we address anything else about this
<Anton{Politoed}>
is the rename to Most Disappointing Game
<Anton{Politoed}>
I believe this is a good idea because:
<Anton{Politoed}>
as it stands right now the meme games are getting all of the votes thanks to youtube poops and nothing else, really
<Mariofan169>
is there anything bad about mario clash beside HURDUR VIRTUAL BOY SUCKS
<Anton{Politoed}>
as well as old games by the sheer fact that they're old
<DragonFreak>
yeah if we do that just throwaway all the obviously bad games
<Anton{Politoed}>
a change to Most Disappointing would give each game a relative base to be bad from
<Gamefreak75>
will that really curb the meme votes though
<_2257>
lets hope this works
<Nabber>
yeah i support that
<Gamefreak75>
im not opposed to the change
<Packy>
I'd love that change
<turb>
pretty sure mario clash was shit gameplay wise too
<Anton{Politoed}>
it will we we cut all of the meme games yeah
<turb>
also i support the change
<Gamefreak75>
im just saying i dont expect much to change
<SonicMario>
Yeah I think Most Disappointing would be a welcome change
<turb>
mario clash is like kind of a meme game though
<NSY>
I'm unsure on it
<DragonFreak>
it would cut out the first four games right?
<Gabumon>
lets do it
<turb>
since i doubt most pepole who vote for it have played it
<DragonFreak>
*four nominations
<Nyrie>
please cut the meme games
<Tailmon>
i'm ok with the change and getting rid of the memes
<Packy>
and yeah, cut the meme games
<Anton{Politoed}>
let's make it a vote
<Nyrie>
hotel mario needs to go away
<Gamefreak75>
oh we're going to cut out the games
<Nyrie>
also add ultra smash btw
<Gamefreak75>
i guess im ok with that
<Tailmon>
hotel mario did go away
<Tailmon>
it still gets a million write ins though
<Tailmon>
maybe this will help
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Rename F15 Worst Game to "Most Disappointing Game", accepting it's new definition as well? (y/n/a)
<Anton{Politoed}>
y
<Packy>
y
<Gabumon>
y
<Tailmon>
y
<NSY>
y
<SonicMario>
y
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
y
<Uniju>
y
<Nyrie>
y
<_2257>
y
<Lakituthequick>
y
<Stooben>
i don't always vote against memes, but when i do, it's for mario
<turb>
y
<Stooben>
so y
<Chiaki_Nanami>
y
<Mariofan169>
y
<Gamefreak75>
y
<Anton{Politoed}>
gr8
<DragonFreak>
y
<Gamefreak75>
stay thirtsty my friend
<Nyrie>
barbaric anti-memeism
<Toadbert>
y
<mcd>
y
<Gamefreak75>
thirsty
<Meta_Knight>
y
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<NSY>
the meme games will still get write a couple ins but we can't do much about that
<_2257>
we should make it so that if someone writes in hotel mario, it bans their ip address
<Gabumon>
pidgey voted against memes
<Gabumon>
need to take a screenshot
<Chiaki_Nanami>
I vote against bad memes
<Chiaki_Nanami>
Hotel Mario is a bad meme
<DragonFreak>
take a screenshot with nyrie too
<Nyrie>
gay luigi
<Tailmon>
195-0-0
<Tailmon>
19.5-0-0
<Anton{Politoed}>
ok so with this new rename
<Gamefreak75>
hotel mario ytps are quality memes
<Nyrie>
all toasters toast toast
<Packy>
holy christ smasher
<Chiaki_Nanami>
Good memes are like
<Anton{Politoed}>
the entire award needs to be redone
<DragonFreak>
WOW 195
<Tailmon>
i'm not on my a-game tonight
<NSY>
there are no bar memes
<Chiaki_Nanami>
half a presses
<_2257>
195 people were in favor of this
<Nyrie>
LUCKILY I FOUND A MAGIC BALLOON
<NSY>
*bad
<Gamefreak75>
so remove the cd-i games, right
<Gamefreak75>
mario is missing
<Nyrie>
yes
<Mariofan169>
rev up those fryers
<Gamefreak75>
well i guess the cd-i game was removed
<Gamefreak75>
because it was hotel mario
<turb>
remove the first 4 games
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<Gamefreak75>
the shitty ytp games
<Nyrie>
remove mario is missing, mario clash, and mario teaches typing
<turb>
missing, teaches typing, clash, and learning
<NSY>
all toaster toast toast
<Nyrie>
the rest are fine
<turb>
was learning on there
<Anton{Politoed}>
(Mario is Missing!, Mario Teaches Typing & 2, Mario's Time Machine, Mario Clash) ?
<turb>
oh no
<turb>
time machine yeah
<Nyrie>
yeah it was those
<Tailmon>
yeah get rid of those
<NSY>
The first three are meme games
<turb>
all of the other games have a reason to be disappointing
<NSY>
The forth is eh
<Packy>
i feel bad, i kind of liked the mario teaches typing games : - (
<turb>
ok well to be honest clash is still a meme game
<turb>
because honestly
<turb>
even if it's shit gameplay-wise
<turb>
who's actually
<turb>
played it
<turb>
and isn't just voting for it because they know the virtual boy was a meme
<Nyrie>
nobody has ever even played those games and just vote for them because of youtube poops and top 10 worst game lists
<Anton{Politoed}>
(New Super Mario Bros. 2, Paper Mario: Sticker Star, Yoshi’s New Island, Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games, Mario Party 10)
<Packy>
so does that leave us with
<Anton{Politoed}>
this is just 5
<Packy>
5 games
<Packy>
yeah
<Nyrie>
well
<Nyrie>
add ultra smash
<Anton{Politoed}>
it's the bare minimum but for a big award like F15 we need a lot more
<Chiaki_Nanami>
Ultra Smash?
<Nyrie>
definitely
<Tailmon>
we can add ultra smash
<Mariofan169>
add ultra mas-
<Nabber>
honestly sticker star has become a meme at this point
<Nyrie>
mash
<Chiaki_Nanami>
wait we need to think about this
<Mariofan169>
fucking
<Gabumon>
I was pretty disappointed with Super Paper Mario when it was announced
<Nabber>
but people have actually played it
<Tailmon>
yeah people actually own sticker star
<NSY>
Mario Party 9 was more disappointing than Mario Party 10
<Chiaki_Nanami>
I got to the final boss
<Chiaki_Nanami>
no
<Chiaki_Nanami>
MP10 was more disappointing
<turb>
super paper mario would be good i think
<Tailmon>
they were both pretty disappointing
<Chiaki_Nanami>
way more disappointing
<Anton{Politoed}>
just a notice:
<Uniju>
i would be in favour of spm for this
<Anton{Politoed}>
since we're generating like
<NSY>
at least people had hope with 9
<Anton{Politoed}>
roughly 10 new nominees for this
<Packy>
does anyone have any opinion of Rio 2016?
<Anton{Politoed}>
this will be something to do on the forum
<turb>
mario party 10 was basically them not paying attention to the negative feedback for 9
<Nyrie>
never played it
<turb>
and shitting out another game anyway
<Packy>
I haven't played it and only the 3DS version is out
<Tailmon>
i'm personally ok with spm but i think it would be a good nominee for it too
<Anton{Politoed}>
but there's like 6 minutes left with nothing else we can tackle in that time so I guess just keep discussing this
<Packy>
but I didn't know what the reception/reviews were like among literally anyone
<_2257>
what about
<Anton{Politoed}>
and lob your ideas immediately after the meeting once I create the thread
<_2257>
smg2
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i guess i can go with SPM if it's really popular
<_2257>
am i the onyl one who was hugely disappointed by that
<Toadbert>
but guys
<Tailmon>
you're not
<NSY>
no 22
<Mariofan169>
maybe a m vs dk game or mario kart super circuit
<Toadbert>
no one hates spm now that its so much comparatively better
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
i wasn't
<Tailmon>
i wasn't particularly, but you're not
<Packy>
oh yeah mario kart super circuit
<Packy>
I would be in favor of that
<NSY>
butthurt pm fanboys were as well
<DragonFreak>
i wasn't diasppointed cause i expected nothing from smg2 and got nothing in return
<Uniju>
spm was a lot more disappointing though because before spm existed, there were 0 bad paper mario games
<Tailmon>
forgot about super circuit
<Uniju>
after it, there was 1, so there being another one wasn't as big a deal
<_2257>
actually i still think spm is kind of pretty shit
<Nyrie>
what about new super luigi u?
<Gamefreak75>
i hate all of you
<Mariofan169>
maaaybe mario party advance but
<turb>
the only good thing about spm was the soundtrack
<turb>
daily reminder
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
gamefreak
<Nabber>
now that we have more bad PM games i've learned to accept SPM
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
do you want to build a bunker
<Mariofan169>
was /anyone/ excited for that game
<Chiaki_Nanami>
Why is literally every award about bad games almost filled with the same nominees?
<SonicMario>
I like SPM but I do agree it's a disappointment as a follow-up to the previous two games.
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
we can hole up in there and wait for our fellow spm fans
<Gamefreak75>
yes
<Chiaki_Nanami>
They're almost the same thing.
<Packy>
porch/gamefreak
<Packy>
may I join you
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
yes
<Packy>
hooray!
<Nyrie>
also can we add mario vs donkey kong tipping stars
<Nyrie>
??
<turb>
yeah now that we have skyward sword ive learned to acccept tp
<DragonFreak>
porch
<Nabber>
is that the actual name of ag ame
<turb>
that doesnt mean tp isnt still kind of anus though
<Nyrie>
yes
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<Nabber>
how many of those games do they have by this point
<Packy>
too many
<Nyrie>
we can add the most recent mario vs dk
<DragonFreak>
am i the only one who loves skyward sword
<NSY>
would 3D land be an interesting one to include
<Nyrie>
the amiibo one
<NSY>
I also liked skyward sword
<DragonFreak>
am i just blinded by the zelda series that much or something
<Mariofan169>
3d land was pretty good so
<Nyrie>
what about game and wario? weren't a bunch of people disappointed in that
<turb>
it's most disappointing
<turb>
not worst
<Chiaki_Nanami>
this isn't zelda, this is mario
<turb>
i could see why people would be disappointed in 3d land
<Tailmon>
i thought 3d land was pretty disappointing
<_2257>
well lets not talk about skyward sword now
<turb>
even if it's...... playable, ig euss
<Meta_Knight>
i heard people were disappointed with game and wario
<Raiko_Chaorikawa>
3d land disappointed me
<Meta_Knight>
as nyrie said
<Tailmon>
it's not a bad game but it's still disappointing
<Tailmon>
definitely my least favorite 3d game
<turb>
iit's like how smg2 isn't objectively bad
<Nyrie>
i'm going to make a quick list of ideas
<Packy>
ok i'm just
<Anton{Politoed}>
ok so I made the thread for that http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=36601.0
<turb>
but it was disappointing because it was a glorified smg1 level pack
<Tailmon>
i haven't played game & wario
<Packy>
genuinely asking
<Nyrie>
and post them when there's a thread
<Nyrie>
OH
<Nyrie>
yay
<Anton{Politoed}>
dump all of your ideas into that in a concise manner
<Tailmon>
i was going to gather them all up
<_2257>
well
<Tailmon>
but you can if you want
<Anton{Politoed}>
and with the last like minute we have I'll just provide an overview for the next week:
<Packy>
i know the topic was said about cutting non-mario stuff, does that mean Smash 3DS would not count as a thought?
<_2257>
was nsmb2 a disappointment
<Nabber>
yeah
<Packy>
I think people thought it was kind of disappointing
<turb>
i think it was
<_2257>
was tll a disappointment
<turb>
the only person ive ever seen like nsmb2 is borp
<turb>
is tll lost levels
<_2257>
yeah
<Anton{Politoed}>
there are currently 4 new fail award ideas that need to be refined to the point of completion before next meeting
<turb>
idk how to judge people's expectations for that
<Gamefreak75>
i think so yeah
<turb>
but it probably was
<Anton{Politoed}>
they each had individual threads in the forum
<Anton{Politoed}>
we will also need to brainstorm an idea for a 5th new award idea
<Anton{Politoed}>
during the next meeting we will go over and finish all of these, plus F14
<Uniju>
gg
<Mariofan169>
I'd argue the 25th anniversary edition of all stars was disappointing
<_2257>
really
<Anton{Politoed}>
after all of that we will start User Awards
<_2257>
people should have known exactly what they were getting into
<Mariofan169>
oh it's over welp
<_2257>
it wasnt advertised as anything but a striaght port
<_2257>
how coudl taht be disappointing
<Anton{Politoed}>
a heads up for User Awards
<Anton{Politoed}>
there are some
<Anton{Politoed}>
hefty decisions
<Anton{Politoed}>
to be made
<Chiaki_Nanami>
wait
<Anton{Politoed}>
next meeting will need a lot less shitposting than this one had
<Chiaki_Nanami>
yes
<SonicMario>
I think I remember people being disappointed it was just that. And not some big new game probably.
<Mariofan169>
it was an exact port of the original beside physical extras
<Mariofan169>
didn't even have smw
<SonicMario>
Not sure if that's ground for being added to this award or not but yeah
<Anton{Politoed}>
as of this moment we're technically right on schedule, but I feel we're falling behind because meetings aren't as productive as they could be
<Anton{Politoed}>
pretty much entirely as a result of no one actually listening until I start yelling, as well and endless shitposting
<Anton{Politoed}>
I don't want to have a 2nd speech about this subject since I feel that doing it once was enough
<Anton{Politoed}>
as well as*
<Anton{Politoed}>
if having 32 people in this committee is actually a hindrance to our goal, I will begin cutting people and restricting access