mwikiawards.2016-04-09

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Topic for #mwikiawards is ``"An Excellent Meeting" - Chef Excellence, 2015 || Awards are canceled, I have a hair appointment the day of the ceremony and I can't miss it, soz || 1st meeting hype || http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=36197.0 Links || Number of meetings survived: 5''
  
Topic for #mwikiawards was set by Gabumon!chatzilla@hmln-747-728-375-889.797.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de on zaterdag 2 april 2016 4:07:49
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 <Uniju> 
boyez
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 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
just in time
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
my brain has recovered from being fried
 <Uniju> 
me and tb started laying groundwork for minecraft games last night
 <Uniju> 
let's dedicate the first five minutes to praising us for actually doing something
 <Freakworld> 
::clap
 <SMB> 
z
 
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 <Tailmon> 
yeah
  
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 <Tailmon> 
i'm gonna be a little late to this one
 
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 <Tailmon> 
maybe twenty or thirty minutes or so
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
nabber why do you keep disconnecting
 <Freakworld> 
.
 <Gamefreak75> 
fyi my activity is going to be sporadic
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so hi
 <Gamefreak75> 
im doing homework and studying simultaneously
 <Gamefreak75> 
so i dont get bogged down on sunday
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
here we are at another fabulous meeting
 <Freakworld> 
im basically asleep
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
our schedule for the night is:
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*F14 Worst Location (Edo’s idea)
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*F15 Most Disappointing Game (Accept new nominations)
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Four new award ideas
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Decide 5th new award idea
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Begin User Awards
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so edo's not here right now and I haven't had time to read this thing
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=36644.0
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and I'm not comfortable discussing something I have no clue about
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we're skipping that until he shows up
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
which leads us straight into F15
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=36601.0
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if you still need to vote now is your chance
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
22 are you here
 <Uniju> 
#ivoted
 <turb> 
i voted
 <_2257> 
yes
 <Glitchy> 
will vote now
 <turb> 
it was 3 polls right
 <Toadbert> 
i care
 <turb> 
just 3
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
3 polls yes
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
i voted
 <turb> 
ok i did all of them
 <Freakworld> 
what was so disappointing abi
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
might make a 4th one during te meeting
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
the*
 <Freakworld> 
*about dkrds
 <Nabber> 
yes pi sorry
 <Nabber> 
i don't know why my internet keeps disconnecting
 <turb> 
nyway fw i was gonna make this a post but i was out with relatives + took a nap
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'll give a couple minutes to vote
 <turb> 
i suggested warioware for the thing because it's like the last good nominee we can get unless theres a bad subseriees that slipped under my nose
 <Toadbert> 
diddy kong racing ds almost looked worse than the original
 <Toadbert> 
and in some cases probably did
 <turb> 
any farther and we dig into "the new dkc is bad because they removed the kremlings even though theyre funcitonally good games"
 <SMB> 
<Toadbert> diddy kong racing ds almost looked worse than the original
 <SMB> 
<Toadbert> and in some cases probably did
 <SMB> 
Very true.
 <turb> 
yeah
 <Glitchy> 
ok i voted
 <Toadbert> 
like mario 64 ds at least had a bit more polish to it
 <Freakworld> 
i never played either so i cant tell
 <Toadbert> 
also there was no conker or BAYANJOE
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
gr8 I'm gonna lock the poll
 <Nabber> 
voted just in time
 <Nabber> 
nice
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok we neeeeeeeed the top
 <Nabber> 
honestly im not sure we should include remakes in most disappointing game
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
10-13
 <Freakworld> 
anyways, smas wii was disappointing, because for whats its owrth it wasnt even the +smw version
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
there's been a week to discuss this
 <Nabber> 
there was a +smw version?
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
voting is closed
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
whatever the results are are what we have
 <turb> 
i dont find it disappointing because they never advertised it as anything but vanilla smas on a wii disc
 <_2257> 
1. Yoshi's Island DS
 <_2257> 
13 (9.5%)
 <_2257> 
2. Super Paper Mario
 <_2257> 
12 (8.8%)
 <_2257> 
2. Mario Party 9
 <_2257> 
12 (8.8%)
 <_2257> 
2. Diddy Kong Racing DS
 <_2257> 
12 (8.8%)
 <_2257> 
5. Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash
 <Toadbert> 
trifecta
 <_2257> 
10 (7.3%)
 <_2257> 
5. Super Mario All-Stars - 25th Anniversary Edition
 <_2257> 
10 (7.3%)
 <_2257> 
5. Super Mario 64 DS
 <_2257> 
10 (7.3%)
 <_2257> 
8. Super Mario 3D Land
 <_2257> 
9 (6.6%)
 <_2257> 
8. Mario Party: Island Tour
 <_2257> 
9 (6.6%)
 <_2257> 
10. Super Mario Galaxy 2
 <_2257> 
7 (5.1%)
 <_2257> 
11. Mario Party 8
 <_2257> 
6 (4.4%)
 <_2257> 
11. Super Mario Sunshine
 <_2257> 
6 (4.4%)
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
we did it
 <_2257> 
13. NSMBU/NSLU
 <_2257> 
5 (3.6%)
 <_2257> 
13. Donkey Kong Country 3
 <_2257> 
5 (3.6%)
 <_2257> 
im glad smg2 got in
 <Toadbert> 
im agreeing with turb on smas remake though
 <_2257> 
what an awful game
 <_2257> 
i was afraid it wouldnt make it
 <Toadbert> 
what more did people expect
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
I'm glad Sunshine got in
 <Freakworld> 
anyway spm was in no way underwhleming to me so i couldnt
 <Gamefreak75> 
its ok fw i didnt vote spm either
 <Uniju> 
w
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok give me a moment to copy these down
 <Gamefreak75> 
its a shame to see awful taste
 <Uniju> 
can we relaly put sunshine on a disappointing game award
 <Toadbert> 
also dkc3 made it up there fuck that
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
yes
 <Toadbert> 
and mario sunshine
 <Freakworld> 
[02:06] Freakworld anyways, smas wii was disappointing, because for whats its owrth it wasnt even the +smw version
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
because it was disappointing to Super Mario 64 fans
 <_2257> 
well keep in mind
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
such as me
 <Toadbert> 
theres annoying things to sms but can you really call it disappointing
 <_2257> 
with the number of nominees
 <Freakworld> 
tbh i didnt pay attention to advertising
 <_2257> 
only 3 things DIDNT get in
 <_2257> 
also there's a tie for 14th
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
how
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
20:07 _2257 13. NSMBU/NSLU 20:07 _2257 5 (3.6%) 20:07 _2257 13. Donkey Kong Country 3 20:07 _2257 5 (3.6%)
 <_2257> 
i'm not sure what "how" is meant to mean in this context
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
that's 1 too many
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we need to decide
 <Nabber> 
i vote for nsmbu
 <turb> 
ill wait until we have an official vote
 <Gamefreak75> 
cant nsmbu/nslu be condensed into 1?
 <turb> 
it is gamefreak
 <Gamefreak75> 
o
 <Toadbert> 
lol
 <Freakworld> 
tbh nsmbu wasnt even disappointing because i dont think anyone expected anything out of it so
 <Freakworld> 
dkc3
 <turb> 
fuck you freakworld
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok but let me make it official
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Include which game into F15? (NSMBU / DKC3 / a)
 <Gamefreak75> 
a
 <turb> 
NSMBU
 <Glitchy> 
i vote nsmbu
 <_2257> 
n
 <Toadbert> 
nsmbu
 <Freakworld> 
dkc3
 <SonicMario> 
DKC3
 <mcd> 
N (smbu)
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
a
 <Lakituthequick> 
a
 <_2257> 
i guess
 <CountBonsula> 
a
 <Glitchy> 
nsmbu is meh
 <Glitchy> 
dkc3 is good
 <Uniju> 
nsmbu
 <Lakituthequick> 
found nsmbu to be decent and haven't played dkc3 so
 <_2257> 
tbh i havent played nsmbu but i feel like abstaining at this point is fairly unhelpful
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
i like both games
 <turb> 
i don't know where this thought that dkc3 is a bad game arose
 <turb> 
it's better than 1 to be honest
 <Toadbert> 
people just butt angrey david wise didnt compose it
 <Uniju> 
probably the same place the idea that sms is a bad game arose
 <turb> 
but i guess i shouldnt clog the meeting with a dkc fanboy cage match
 
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 <CountBonsula> 
im ok with dkc3, never played nsmbu
 <Gamefreak75> 
the same reason people hate spm
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
7-2-4 ??
 <Gamefreak75> 
its not like the original
 <SonicMario> 
It's not bad game. It's disappointing. DKC3 can be considered a dissapointment to some who really liked DKC2 and such.
 <Freakworld> 
ive never played dkc3 but i only know that i didnt feel like nsmbu got a lot of hate
 <Gamefreak75> 
or first two games
 <Toadbert> 
how different is it though
 <Toadbert> 
i really dont get that argument
 <SMB> 
NSMBU
 
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 <CountBonsula> 
yeah im changing to nsmbu
 <Toadbert> 
only really big change is kiddy/diddy
 
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 <turb> 
they played basically the same
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok we have a clear enough winner so
 <Toadbert> 
and to be honest i think kiddy controls better than diddy
 <turb> 
dixie still has her mechanics in
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
NSMBU/NSLU will be added
 <turb> 
good
  
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 <Freakworld> 
actually change to a for the re-
 <Toadbert> 
greet
 <Freakworld> 
okay
 <Glitchy> 
yes
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
nsmbu is the best nsmb game play it at least once ok
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
full award is:
 <Glitchy> 
nsmbds is better tbh
 <Freakworld> 
the bigger disappointent was nsmbw for me anyways
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
F15 Most Disappointing Game (New Super Mario Bros. 2, Paper Mario: Sticker Star, Yoshi’s New Island, Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games, Mario Party 10, Yoshi’s Island DS, Super Paper Mario, Mario Party 9, Diddy Kong Racing DS, Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash, Super Mario All-Stars - 25th Anniversary Edition, Super Mario 64 DS, Super Mario 3D Land
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Mario Party: Island Tour, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Mario Party 8, Super Mario Sunshine, NSMBU/NSLU)
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
yay
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
I'm glad Sunshine got in
 <Nabber> 
what do you have against sunshine :(
 <Freakworld> 
>mario galaxy 2 >mario party 8
 <Freakworld> 
bh
 <mcd> 
yeah sunshine's great
 <Freakworld> 
*bah
 <Uniju> 
"i am a certified reformed troll" - pi
 <Freakworld> 
i voted for sunshine because i know that created an uproar
 <Glitchy> 
sunshine is better than 64
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok gr8
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so moving on
 <Freakworld> 
also corona mountain
 <Freakworld> 
f u c k corona mountain
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Worst 3D Level
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=36573.0
 <Freakworld> 
see
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if you haven't voted, now is your time
 <_2257> 
mario galaxy 2 was absolute garbage and if you disagree you're inarguably wrong
 <Gamefreak75> 
i hope toxic waterfall wins this
 <Glitchy> 
voting now
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
mario galaxy 2 was ok
 <Toadbert> 
i couldnt vote on a lot of these lol
 <_2257> 
*absolute garbage
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
was ok
 <Toadbert> 
i liked all the mario 64 levels well enough and remembered basically no galaxies
 <Freakworld> 
msg2 is literally the same game as the first one tho
 <Freakworld> 
*smg
 <Toadbert> 
mgs2
 <turb> 
and thats why its bad
 <turb> 
it made no attemtp to branch out
 <Gamefreak75> 
metal solid gear
 <_2257> 
its NOT the same as the first one, its significantly worse
 <turb> 
also for the record, mgs2 is a good game
 
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 <Toadbert> 
shut up gamepad
 <Toadbert> 
trying to sell me shit
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
you can disable that you know
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
in addition, while we wait
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=36574.0
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if you haven't voted in this one either now is your time
 <Freakworld> 
can i abstain voting from the last one
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if it's locked halfway through you voting, sucks
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and sure
 <Tailmon> 
HI
 <Freakworld> 
i know no mario party minigame by its english name i think
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
hi
 <Freakworld> 
lol
 <Freakworld> 
except for tug o war
 <Uniju> 
yo udont need to know the minigames just vote random ones
 <Uniju> 
i did
 <Glitchy> 
ok actually voted in the mario party poll before
 <Nabber> 
i don't really feel like im qualified to vote for either of these
 <turb> 
i just took like 20 minutes out of my day to look them up on the wiki
 <Gamefreak75> 
freakworld pick anything with bob-omb or cheep cheep in the name
 <Freakworld> 
actually ill vote for that
 <turb> 
it's not hard
 <Gamefreak75> 
those are the worst ones
 <turb> 
i guess you can't do it now because it's getting locked but
 <Toadbert> 
i actually remembered a lot of these games
 <Toadbert> 
without having to look them up
 <turb> 
sucks to be you
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah the wiki has them all by their english names
 <Toadbert> 
i was impressed with myself
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
again, there's been a few days to vote on these
 <turb> 
i remembered a couple 1-3 ones
 <Toadbert> 
well 1-3 are all ive really played more than once
 <Freakworld> 
there i voted for tug o war
 <Gamefreak75> 
i only remembered the 1, 2, ds, and some of 8 ones
 <Gamefreak75> 
so lol
 <Toadbert> 
actually
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
voting is locked on 3d level
 <Toadbert> 
i remember the gamecube one being fun
 <Toadbert> 
where you used the mic
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
22 can you plz post the top 15-18
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
a true hero
 <Glitchy> 
i never had the mic
 <Tailmon> 
both of my last minute noms made it into most disappointing game
 <Tailmon> 
i'm so glad
 <_2257> 
1. Corona Mountain (SMS)
 <Freakworld> 
couldnt get myself to decide on a bad smg/smg2 level
 <_2257> 
14 (7.6%)
 <Tailmon> 
for the record i would have said nsmbu over dkc3 too
 <_2257> 
2. The Toxic Waterfall (SMS)
 <_2257> 
13 (7%)
 <_2257> 
3. Pachinko/Pinball Secret (SMS)
 <_2257> 
9 (4.9%)
 <_2257> 
3. Stone Cyclone Galaxy (SMG2)
 <Tailmon> 
i don't think either are that good choices for it, though
 <_2257> 
9 (4.9%)
 <_2257> 
5. Wing Mario over the Rainbow (SM64)
 <Tailmon> 
oh well
 <_2257> 
8 (4.3%)
 <Gamefreak75> 
that sms 1, 2, 3 punch
 <_2257> 
5. Sling Pod Galaxy (SMG)
 <_2257> 
8 (4.3%)
 <_2257> 
7. Rainbow Ride (SM64)
 <_2257> 
7 (3.8%)
 <_2257> 
7. Twisty Trials Galaxy (SMG2)
 <_2257> 
7 (3.8%)
 <_2257> 
7. Special 8-3 (SM3DL)
 <_2257> 
7 (3.8%)
 <_2257> 
10. Rolling Gizmo Galaxy (SMG)
 <_2257> 
6 (3.2%)
 <_2257> 
10. Boss Blitz Galaxy (SMG2)
 <Freakworld> 
corona mountain and the final boss fight are just stupid
 <_2257> 
6 (3.2%)
 <_2257> 
12. Goldleaf Galaxy (SMG)
 <_2257> 
5 (2.7%)
 <_2257> 
12. Bubble Breeze Galaxy (SMG)
 <_2257> 
5 (2.7%)
 <Uniju> 
these are all from the good 3d mario games
 <_2257> 
12. World 1-1 (SM3DL)
 <_2257> 
5 (2.7%)
 <_2257> 
12. World 8-6 (SM3DL)
 <_2257> 
5 (2.7%)
 <Toadbert> 
1-1
 <_2257> 
16. Sea Slide Galaxy (SMG)
 <_2257> 
4 (2.2%)
 <Toadbert> 
how could the first level be that bad
 <_2257> 
16. Rainbow Run (SM3DW)
 <Freakworld> 
sm3dl is so low
 <_2257> 
4 (2.2%)
 <Freakworld> 
wow
 <_2257> 
16. Broken Blue Bully Belt (SM3DW)
 <_2257> 
4 (2.2%)
 <_2257> 
16. Fuzzy Time Mine (SM3DW)
 <_2257> 
4 (2.2%)
 <Freakworld> 
all the levels in that game are more or less bad when compared to sm3dw
 <Uniju> 
i guess even if an sm3dw level is bad theyre all so unmemorable nobody remembered to vote for them
 <_2257> 
glad twisty trials aka literal shit got in
 <Freakworld> 
also that lol
 <Gamefreak75> 
triggered
 <Glitchy> 
i found nothing wrong with 1-1 3d land
 <Glitchy> 
it was bland but it wasn't bad
 <_2257> 
sad that mario squared aka more literal shit did not get in
 <Freakworld> 
i remembered the bad sm3dl levels better than the sm3dw levels
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
My vote is for Sea Slide because it is an irredeemable fact that the level can cure the toughest cases of insomnia.
 <Gamefreak75> 
i dont think we need to tiebreak do we?
 <Tailmon> 
i don't remember any of those last four but
 <Freakworld> 
wouldve voted for hazy maze cave but the scuttblugs told me not to
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
we don't :(
 <Gamefreak75> 
oh i noticed theres 4 #12s
 <Gamefreak75> 
nbm
 <Freakworld> 
*scuttlebugs
 <Toadbert> 
ok gotta go eat now
 <_2257> 
hazy maze cave is great
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
or maybe we do
 <Toadbert> 
ill be back
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok is this 1 too many
 <Gamefreak75> 
i voted hazy maze
 <Gamefreak75> 
did anyone else
 <_2257> 
freakworld confirmed to have not aste
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
hazy maze is great
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah it's 1 too many
 <Tailmon> 
i'm not sure if we need any of them honestly? do we really want 18, we have 15
 <Freakworld> 
hazy maze cave is my least favorite regular level in sm64 tbh
 <Freakworld> 
its still not bad though
 <Gamefreak75> 
drop fuzzy time, i guess
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we can easily stay at 15
 <Freakworld> 
i only voted for wing mario over the rainbow because thats just a bad concept
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and not even consider the 4 16th places
 <Gamefreak75> 
that works too
 
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 <Tailmon> 
i'll abstain from voting though if we do want to add some of them but i personally think we're fine
 <SonicMario> 
Hi Packy
 <Packy> 
Hi SM <3
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
honestly I'd be fine with just dropping that 16th place SMG one
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and let the SM3DW's in for variety
 <Tailmon> 
actually i just looked and yeah
 <Tailmon> 
there's no sm3dw levels in there as is
 <Tailmon> 
so i'll switch to saying let those three in
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok let's make that the vote
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Drop the 16th place SMG game in favor of the 3 SM3DW's? (y/n/a)
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
y
 <Tailmon> 
y
 <Uniju> 
y
 <turb> 
y
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
n
 <Lakituthequick> 
y
 <Glitchy> 
y
 <Freakworld> 
y
 <SonicMario> 
y
 <Nabber> 
y
 <Tailmon> 
9-1-0
 <Freakworld> 
pi wants to see the world burn
 <SMB> 
Wait
 <_2257> 
n
 <SMB> 
oh these are levels
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Sea Slide is the most boring level in any Mario game.
 <Tailmon> 
9-2-0
 <SMB> 
I abstain
 <Lakituthequick> 
copy pastable
 <Lakituthequick> 
Corona Mountain (SMS), The Toxic Waterfall (SMS), Pachinko/Pinball Secret (SMS), Stone Cyclone Galaxy (SMG2), Wing Mario over the Rainbow (SM64), Sling Pod Galaxy (SMG), Rainbow Ride (SM64), Twisty Trials Galaxy (SMG2), Special 8-3 (SM3DL), Rolling Gizmo Galaxy (SMG), Boss Blitz Galaxy (SMG2), Goldleaf Galaxy (SMG), Bubble Breeze Galaxy (SMG), World 1-1 (SM3DL), World 8-6 (SM3DL), Rainbow...
 <Lakituthequick> 
...Run (SM3DW), Broken Blue Bully Belt (SM3DW), Fuzzy Time Mine (SM3DW)
 <Gamefreak75> 
y
 <Freakworld> 
oh THATS sea slide galaxy
 <Tailmon> 
i don't remember any of these i just want to include some variety and there's enough smg levels
 <Tailmon> 
10-2-1
 <Freakworld> 
the purple comet in that one is one of my favorites lol
 <Gamefreak75> 
that purple coin mission sucks
 <Freakworld> 
i feel like it requires some more effort than others and i like that
 <Freakworld> 
same with the freezeflame galaxy one
 <Nabber> 
i kinda enjoy it
 <Nabber> 
it's nice going around finding all the things
 <Freakworld> 
yea
 <Nabber> 
at least it's not as easy to fuck up as in freezeflame
 <Freakworld> 
thats kinda what smg2 has been missing
 <Gamefreak75> 
freezeflame is one of the worst
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so unless the dissenting opinions have a passionate response to sway the others I'm going to accept this as the final award selection
 <Gamefreak75> 
only two worst p coin missions are toy time and dreadnought
 <Freakworld> 
thats my favorite actually
 <Gamefreak75> 
both awful
 <Tailmon> 
freezeflame was the last star i got in smg actually
 <Freakworld> 
toy time was the worst purple coin mission that was incedibly dumb
 <Tailmon> 
i didn't like it at all
 <_2257> 
you knwo what was worse tahn luigi's purple coins?
 <Uniju> 
was toy time purple coins the one on the mario sprite
 <Freakworld> 
the one in smg2?
 
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 <Freakworld> 
yes
 <_2257> 
yes
 <_2257> 
the one in smg2
 <Uniju> 
i liked that one
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
Luigi's Purple Coins was a good mission
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok I'm taking that as we can move on
 <Freakworld> 
tbh i had less problems with that one
 <_2257> 
and yet somehow, that level didn't get in
 <Freakworld> 
strangely
 <Uniju> 
it's tricky but difficult != bad
 <Meta_Knight> 
im back
 <_2257> 
lpc is easy the second time around tbh
 
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 <Freakworld> 
no uniju, fuck luigis purple coins
 <_2257> 
i got it in 1 try when i had to redo it with luigi
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Worst Direction of Series
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=36571.0
 <_2257> 
and again in smg2
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
let's try to stay on track
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Gutting of Mario Vs donkey kong series *Paper Mario's modern direction *Amiibo-centric/focused games *Mario Party's modern direction *Mario Tennis *New Super Mario Bros. series *Mario 3D games
  
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
is the only list I have for it at the moment
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it could use some refining
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
this is a minor thing but amiibo is never capitalised
  
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 <Nabber_> 
technically, amiibo-centric games doesn't count for a single series, but im still fine with it
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
this is a thing that should be considered for the final poll only
 <turb> 
i think its fitting enough
 <Freakworld> 
how about we just go with the series name
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it's the only list I have at the moment, formatting isn't a concern right now
 <turb> 
theres no other award it could really go on
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
which I perfectly stated anyway s
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
o
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
in either case
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
I'm fine with the list
 <turb> 
i would say add warioware on there
 <turb> 
but that's just me
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
toss it on
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
where's the harm
 <Freakworld> 
[02:31] Freakworld how about we just go with the series name
 <Glitchy> 
is game and wario warioware
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
how will each of these nominees be worded
 <Freakworld> 
yes
 <Gamefreak75> 
i like the warioware series, but yeah toss it in
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
there's no consistency at the moment
 <Gamefreak75> 
glitchy: yes
 <Packy> 
would the direction of the Yoshi's Island series fit?
 <Glitchy> 
ok
 <Freakworld> 
i guess packy
 <turb> 
i was considering that packy
 <turb> 
but yww came otu
 <turb> 
i guess it could work though
 <Glitchy> 
i would add warioware then
 
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 <Freakworld> 
even though yww is like
 <Meta_Knight> 
maybe the amiibo one could be like "amiibo-locked content"
 <Packy> 
ヽ( ◕ヮ◕)ノ
 <Freakworld> 
idk most people agree that thats good i guess but
 <Freakworld> 
yni certainly wasnt so
 <Freakworld> 
it probably qualifies
 <turb> 
i don't think it was supposed to be amiibo locked content in particular
 <Packy> 
yeah that's why I was thought the Island series rather than Yoshi in general
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
woolly world was fantastic and I'd consider that a good break in the shit cycle
 <turb> 
just the fact that they permeate every aspect of the game
 <Freakworld> 
oh
 <Packy> 
since Woolly World wasn't necessarily an Island game
 <turb> 
but idk
 <turb> 
it's semantics for the most part
 <Packy> 
unless they're the same series for the most part
 <Freakworld> 
i also thought yoshis story but okay
 <turb> 
also i understand that pacy
 <turb> 
we should vote on that and warioware
 <Freakworld> 
id do both tbh just because theres no real reason not to include warioware imo
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
no one seemed to oppose warioware so I think it's a safe inclusion
 <Tailmon> 
i'm fine with both warioware and yoshi's island
 <Tailmon> 
woolly world was great, but yids and ew island exists
 <Tailmon> 
i meant new but ew island may actually be a good name for it lol
 <Tailmon> 
i haven't actually played it though
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but we can decide on yoshi's island
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
http://www.mariowiki.com/Yoshi_%28series%29
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
the series is simply referred to as Yoshi, including all of the game
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
s
 <Gamefreak75> 
maybe Yoshi (series)
 <Nyrie> 
never played any warioware games so i can't really have an opinion
 <Gamefreak75> 
then
 <Freakworld> 
per gf i dont think it matters much
 <Freakworld> 
people will understand
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it will have to be Yoshi (series)
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
that's how the wiki views it
 <Glitchy> 
yoshi (series) is probably fine
 <CountBonsula> 
warioware games are great the end
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we can't break it up
 <Packy> 
that's fine with me
 <Freakworld> 
per CountBonsula
 <_2257> 
i really dont' think there's anything official about the way the wiki views it
 <Meta_Knight> 
if people think they're great they'll get less votes
 <Freakworld> 
yeah but arent we affliated with the wiki
 <_2257> 
i dont really care though
 <Freakworld> 
i dunno
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
either way the gameplay is nearly identical
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so, let's decide on adding Yoshi
 <_2257> 
yoshi's island is obviously going to be a tiny player compared to things like papaer mario
 <Tailmon> 
even if it's not official, it's the best way to cover everything
 <Tailmon> 
so just "yoshi" would be the best way to add it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Add "Yoshi (series)" into the nominee listing for Worst Direction of Series? (y/n/a)
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
y
 <turb> 
y
 <Glitchy> 
y
 <Uniju> 
y
 <Nabber_> 
a
 <Lakituthequick> 
a
 <Tailmon> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
n
 <Tailmon> 
5-1-2
 <CountBonsula> 
a
 <Freakworld> 
y
 <SonicMario> 
y
 <Tailmon> 
6-1-3
 <_2257> 
y
 <Tailmon> 
8-1-3
 <Packy> 
y
 <Freakworld> 
anton why are you against it? just curious
 <Tailmon> 
8.5-1-3
 <SMB> 
Yes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
because woolly world is included and it was good
 <Tailmon> 
9.5-1-3
 <Meta_Knight> 
y
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
just because DS and New Island were bad in the middle, does that make the entire series direction bad
 <mcd> 
a
 <turb> 
not necessarily
 <SMB> 
Oh wait, is Wolly World in the mix?
 <turb> 
i jsut want to add it to test the waters
 <SMB> 
*Woolly
 <Freakworld> 
no but thats what people will think
 <Meta_Knight> 
yeah
 <Packy> 
idk i'm kind of on the fence with it
 <turb> 
if it gets like 2 votes, we nuke it off of the award next year
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm including it because the wiki includes it
 <SMB> 
Change to abstain
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if someone else decides it's not, I guess that's on them
 <Packy> 
i don't think the direction as Yoshi (series) makes the direction bad as much as it would be if it were Yoshi's Island (series)
 <SMB> 
If Woolly World is the new direction of the series, I think it's good.
 <Packy> 
so change me to A
 <Uniju> 
yeah i dunno yww is good but just because the direction changed to be good recently doesnt really undo the direction having been really bad for a long time i dont think
 <turb> 
per uniju
 <Freakworld> 
per uniju
 <Tailmon> 
8.5-1-5
 <Tailmon> 
per uniju
 <SMB> 
If it turns out to the exception, and they continue to shove out more Island games...
 <Freakworld> 
or yoshis story 2
 <_2257> 
i'm just voting yes because of what turb said
 <Freakworld> 
minus the good music
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm going to keep my N but either way it looks like it's added and if the voters decide yww is included then it will be reflected in results
 <Freakworld> 
and poochy
 <_2257> 
the worst thing that'll happen is itll get 2 votes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yeah
 <Nabber_> 
personally i feel that
 <Nabber_> 
there's nothing particularly bad about the series that they've been doing
 <Freakworld> 
the worst thing thatll happen is mario kart becomes a write in and gets more votes
 <Nabber_> 
they just made bad games
 <Freakworld> 
if that happens ill quit
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
are there any other series to add
 <turb> 
nabber thats like part of the award though
 <turb> 
not off the top of my head
 <Nabber_> 
i feel like the other series have been getting worse because of bad decision making
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Gutting of Mario Vs donkey kong series *Paper Mario's modern direction *Amiibo-centric/focused games *Mario Party's modern direction *Mario Tennis *New Super Mario Bros. series *Mario 3D games *Warioware *Yoshi (series)
 <turb> 
dkc is good and i feel like we've covered every applicable mario sports game
 <_2257> 
...isnt making bad games a bad direction for the series?
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
this isn't final wording
 <Nabber_> 
whereas with the yoshi series it's that the games themselves have fluctuated in quality
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
actually
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
add dkc
 <Uniju> 
i do see where nabber's coming from although i disagree
 <Gamefreak75> 
why dkc?
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
there are people that hate the absence of Kremlings
 <Freakworld> 
mario kart is one of the few examples inside mario where the series keeps improving with every new installment imo
 <Gamefreak75> 
those people are trolls
 <Uniju> 
like, there's a difference between a game that's poorly put together and a game that's fundamentally bad
 <turb> 
yes, and i made a point earlier that that was a god-awful argument
 <Freakworld> 
except mario kart wii that had some weird decisions
 <turb> 
the games themselves are solid
 <Glitchy> 
dkc is perfectly fine
 <Nyrie> 
tropical freeze and dkcr are amazing games
 <Nabber_> 
yeah uniju you worded it better
 <Freakworld> 
dkcr and dkcr2 are not a bad direction people who say so have no taste
 <Glitchy> 
the series direction is great recently
 <mcd> 
if people feel that strongly about it they can write them in anyway
 <Nyrie> 
we shouldn't add them just because people are salty that kremlings aren't in it
 <Tailmon> 
i'm against dkc
 <_2257> 
you know *i* hate the absence of kremlings but i dont think it actually makes the games bad
 <Tailmon> 
dkcr and tf are really pretty well liked
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
any other suggestions
 <Freakworld> 
because it doesnt
 <Freakworld> 
retro did a really good job
 <Tailmon> 
i thought both were great even though i miss the kremlings
 <Nyrie> 
i can't think of anything else
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
there are hardcore DKC players who won't touch them because Kremlings aren't present
 <Nabber_> 
well, to be fair, it's worst *direction* of the series
 <Gamefreak75> 
those people live sad existences
 <Glitchy> 
that's too bad for them then
 <Nyrie> 
[08:44:26] mcd if people feel that strongly about it they can write them in anyway
 <Nabber_> 
not *worst modern games* of the series
 <mcd> 
but that doesn't affect the quality of the games
 <Freakworld> 
well those people can enjoy glitches 64
 <Glitchy> 
they're missing out on good games
 <mcd> 
which people who don't cut themselves out agree is fantastic
 <Nyrie> 
[08:45:13] Chiaki_Nanami there are hardcore DKC players who won't touch them because Kremlings aren't present
 <turb> 
i don't have any other sugegstions
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so let's focus on the nominees we have now and figure out a proper wording
 <turb> 
i feel like if the only thing thats left to discuss is this dkc thing we can probably move on
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Gutting of Mario Vs donkey kong series *Paper Mario's modern direction *Amiibo-centric/focused games *Mario Party's modern direction *Mario Tennis *New Super Mario Bros. series *Mario 3D games *Warioware *Yoshi (series)
 <turb> 
yeah
 <Meta_Knight> 
i dont either
 <Nyrie> 
this is like the people who hate the new m&l games because fawful isn't in it
 <Freakworld> 
tbh the direction donkey kong went into after rare was bad imo
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
do we need to include "modern direction"
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
or is that already implied
 
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 <turb> 
use series names for everything except mario 3D games and Amiibo games imo
 <mcd> 
i feel some might need further explanation
 <Tailmon> 
would it be ok if we just cut of the "gutting of"/"modern direction"
 <mcd> 
i.e. warioware
 <turb> 
and no it's implied i think
 <Freakworld> 
but idk it probably doesnt qualify
 <Gamefreak75> 
is it?
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
gutting
 <turb> 
does warioware actually need more explanation
 <Meta_Knight> 
maybe just say "Paper Mario losing classic RPG style gameplay"
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
hang on, looking up what gutting means
 <NSY> 
hey
 <Lakituthequick> 
what even is 'gutting'
 <Gamefreak75> 
Just having "Paper Mario" on there seems weird
 <mcd> 
i wouldn't have known it was talking about game and wario unless i was at the meeting
 <Freakworld> 
per turb on naming
 <turb> 
well the title is "worst direction of series"
 <Gamefreak75> 
gutting is a great term
 <SMB> 
"Paper Mario treating gamers like idiots"
 <turb> 
i feel like people should be able to connect the dots there
 <Uniju> 
taking all the innards out
 <CountBonsula> 
"Paper Mario's Plot"
 <Freakworld> 
"paper mario trolling its fans"
 <Tailmon> 
i think it's fine if we just list the series name other than in the amiibo one, myself
 <turb> 
if they cant look at the award title and make logical conclusions then idk
 <Lakituthequick> 
also the word "series" is within parantheses on Yoshi but not the others
 <turb> 
ltq it'll get changed later
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
that's what we're figuring out now
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and I agree with turb
 <Gamefreak75> 
how about Current Paper Mario?
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
hang on I'm still trying to figure out what the fuck 'gutting' means
 <mcd> 
removing the innards
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
innards
 <_2257> 
guts
 <_2257> 
organs
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
okay
 <_2257> 
its a metaphor
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
thanks
 <Gamefreak75> 
it basically means removing the stuff that made the series good
 <Gamefreak75> 
and leaving a corpse
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
remove it
 <Gamefreak75> 
yeah i didnt have any better way to word it at the time
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
If people like /me/ can't understand it, remove it
 <Uniju> 
now that i think about it that's not a great metaphor since when you gut an animal youre taking out the less desirable parts
 <Gamefreak75> 
gutting was the first thing that came to mind
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
I'm essentially fluent in the language but I didn't know that
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
pidgey I think it's more of a language barrier
 <SonicMario> 
What if we did series name followed by a parentheses of the particular game considered to be the start or most infamous part of of the direction AKA Paper Mario (Sticker Star)
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it's a very common phrase in english
 <NSY> 
anton
 <NSY> 
current topic?
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
either way I want it removed too so lol
 <Gamefreak75> 
gutting is a common term here, yes
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
I've never heard it ever lol
 <SonicMario> 
Ex: *Paper Mario series (Sticker Star)
 <turb> 
i mean "worst direction of series" implies that they did something to fuck up the direction
 <Meta_Knight> 
Maybe "Extreme Loss of quality in Mario vs. Donkey Kong games"
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
NSY: we're working on refining the nominees for Worst Direction of Series
 <Gamefreak75> 
and yeah thats why i said in my post when i made it that itll need to be changed
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm about to post a list again
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
why not just
 <NSY> 
okay
 <Uniju> 
it really is a common phrase
 <turb> 
most people can figure out that pm/ttyd are not what's being referenced there
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
cut everything extraneous
 <turb> 
it's sticker star and color splash
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
and just say 'paper mario'
 <Uniju> 
the wording isn't great but "a swedish person doesnt understand this english phrase" isn't the reason
 <Gamefreak75> 
bastardization of the mvdk series
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
no, just say the series name
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
nothing else
 <mcd> 
that wouldn't work for amiibo games, mario 3d games, but if leaving them as they are then per pi
 <turb> 
i think the parentheses name is like the only compromise i would be willing to come to but i honestly dont think we need it
 <Freakworld> 
is hotel mario a bad directi- *shot*
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Mario vs Donkey Kong (series) *Paper Mario *amiibo-centric/focused games *Mario Party *Mario Tennis *New Super Mario Bros. (series) *Mario 3D games *Warioware *Yoshi (series)
 <Tailmon> 
yes that
 <turb> 
go with that
 <Freakworld> 
y
  
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
series in () is to indicate that it's the series and not the individual game by the same name
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
does warioware need that too, idk
 <Glitchy> 
y
 <mcd> 
wouldn't paper mario need it too, then
 <turb> 
you could put that on mario party, mario tennis and paper mario
 <CountBonsula> 
yes
 <Tailmon> 
wouldn't ALL of those need it
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
and mario party
 <Tailmon> 
except 3d and amiibo
 <turb> 
warioware has no game by the title of just "warioware"
 <mcd> 
we could just remove it tbj
 <turb> 
but you can add it if you want
 <_2257> 
wario ware never had agame just called wario ware iirc
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
it's a series we are talking about
 <mcd> 
*tbh
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
remove (series)
 <Tailmon> 
either just add series to all or none
 <CountBonsula> 
the first one is called WarioWare Inc. i guess
 <Tailmon> 
i think i prefer none
 <NSY> 
per turb
 <mcd> 
"worst direction of series" already dentoes we're talking about the series itself
 <_2257> 
doesnt the award name make it obvious theyre series....es though
 <Tailmon> 
series is literally in the award title
 <Glitchy> 
the first one is warioware mega microgames
 <turb> 
yeah what 22 said
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Mario vs Donkey Kong *Paper Mario *amiibo-centric/focused games *Mario Party *Mario Tennis *New Super Mario Bros. *Mario 3D games *Warioware *Yoshi
 <turb> 
go with that
 <Tailmon> 
yes
 <mcd> 
that's good
 <_2257> 
good
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
aaaaaa sorry sorry
 <CountBonsula> 
sure
 <Uniju> 
is good
 <Freakworld> 
y
 <Glitchy> 
that's fine
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
dinner occupied my time
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
hi
 <Packy> 
that's good with m
 <Packy> 
me*
 <turb> 
the thing is we had a discussion like this for that trans issues nominee on whatever award number it is
 <turb> 
and we concluded we need the voters to make decisions on their own
 <turb> 
by looking at the title and context clues
 <turb> 
i believe in them
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
anyhw, that looks good to me
 <Freakworld> 
were rewording that though at least arent we
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
but turb ralph told us they have the attention spans of squirrels
 <turb> 
rewording what
 <Freakworld> 
because it currently sounds like were advocating transphobia
 <turb> 
if you mean the trans issues thing it was already reworded
 <Freakworld> 
ok
 <NSY> 
i agree with the list
 <Freakworld> 
i remembered we talked about it
 <_2257> 
tbh i'm sure some of the voters will fuck up no matter what we say
 <turb> 
yeah that
 <Gamefreak75> 
tbh id be surprised if the voters couldnt be arsed to figure shit out
 <turb> 
but who cares about them honestly
 <Gamefreak75> 
i wouldnt be surprised
 <Gamefreak75> 
i mean
 <_2257> 
theres like hundreds of them each time
 <turb> 
these are the same peopel who don't read the dossier and just click buttons
 <Glitchy> 
i remember talking about it
 <turb> 
and write in stuff that's already on the award
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
next up then
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Worst Mario Part Minigame
 <Lakituthequick> 
WarioWare has both W
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=36574.0
 <Lakituthequick> 
s capitalized
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if you /still/ haven't voted you have 30 seconds to do so
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and ok
 <Nyrie> 
i barely play mario party
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
i voted
 <_2257> 
how do things end up with zero votes
 <turb> 
just vote for what you recognize for the sake of it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it looks like there's a lot with 2-3 votes
 <turb> 
i did that
 <_2257> 
do people not vote for their own nominees
 <turb> 
i managed to fill out like 15 choices
 <Tailmon> 
i wasn;t able to have to time to vote
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
there's 12 with 4+ votes
 
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 <Nabber__> 
okay maybe i should just quit since my internet clearly hates me
 <_2257> 
i just voted for everythnig with control stick spinning
 <Freakworld> 
i wonder if theres anyone who has memorized every single mario party minigame
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
5 more with 3+
 <Uniju> 
probably 3d player
 <Lakituthequick> 
there probably is
 <_2257> 
and also bash n cash because it totally fucks over the single player for no reason whatsoever??
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we can fit in everything at 3+
 <_2257> 
i always thought that was moronic
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
is there anyone else still currently voting
 <Freakworld> 
the only one i recognize by name that ive disliked is tug o war
 <Gamefreak75> 
mario party minigame?
 <Freakworld> 
so thats the only one i voted for
 <Gamefreak75> 
if so, i voted
 <Tailmon> 
does flip the chimp have 3+ votes
 <NSY> 
just voted
 <NSY> 
yes
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
i've memorised every mp minigame up until 7
 <NSY> 
it has 8
 <Tailmon> 
good
 <Tailmon> 
GOOD
 <Freakworld> 
what the fuck pi srsly
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
yes
 <Freakworld> 
why
 <mcd> 
i can't remember what that minigame was but i do remember it was the absolute worst
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i did not vote
 <mcd> 
ever
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
because mario party is a great series
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
voting is locked
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
up until 8
 <Freakworld> 
*****Was
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
whoever didn't vote, you don't have a say, sucks
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i have almost no experience with the entire series so i couldn't make a fair decision, soz
 <Glitchy> 
flip the chimp is shit
 
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
22 can you ~please~ grab the top 15-18
 <_2257> 
oh
 <Freakworld> 
8 is still good it was when hudson dropped it turned to the worst
 <_2257> 
sorry, was i late
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
there should be 15 voters
 
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 <_2257> 
1. Tug o' War
 <NSY> 
i rather enjoyed areas of 8
 <_2257> 
9 (6.6%)
 <Nabber_> 
okay fuck it i don't want to disrupt this anymore
 <_2257> 
2. Bash n' Cash
 <Nabber_> 
i guess i'll leave now
 <_2257> 
8 (5.8%)
 <_2257> 
2. Flip the Chimp
 <_2257> 
8 (5.8%)
 
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 <Freakworld> 
bye
 <_2257> 
4. Crane Game
 <NSY> 
8 had good boards
 <_2257> 
7 (5.1%)
 <_2257> 
5. Day at the Races
 <_2257> 
6 (4.4%)
 <_2257> 
5. Bowser's Big Blast
 <_2257> 
6 (4.4%)
 <_2257> 
5. MPIQ
 <_2257> 
6 (4.4%)
 <Glitchy> 
8 wasn't ba
 <_2257> 
8. The Beat Goes On
 <Glitchy> 
*bad
 <_2257> 
5 (3.6%)
 <Packy> 
wtf day at the races was great ;-;
 <_2257> 
8. Game Guy Room
 <Freakworld> 
the koopa town one = best board in mp
 <_2257> 
5 (3.6%)
 <_2257> 
10. Pipe Maze
 <_2257> 
4 (2.9%)
 <_2257> 
10. Right Oar Left
 <NSY> 
per packy
 <Glitchy> 
it wasn't the best but it's okay
 <_2257> 
4 (2.9%)
 <_2257> 
10. Hot Rope Jump
 <Packy> 
omg so was pipe maze
 <_2257> 
4 (2.9%)
 <_2257> 
10. Cheep Cheep Chance
 <_2257> 
4 (2.9%)
 <_2257> 
14. Piranha's Pursuit
 <_2257> 
3 (2.2%)
 <_2257> 
14. Skateboard Scamper
 <_2257> 
3 (2.2%)
 <_2257> 
14. Cast Aways
 <_2257> 
3 (2.2%)
 <_2257> 
14. Bob-omb Combo
 <_2257> 
3 (2.2%)
 <_2257> 
14. Cheep Cheep Check
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
the majority of these are from 1-3
 <_2257> 
3 (2.2%)
 <Gamefreak75> 
that mario party 1-3 slaughter
 <_2257> 
really, you liked pipe maz?
 <_2257> 
it was like basically just luck wasnt it
 <Freakworld> 
i remember game guy from mp3
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
which is because those are the games everyone played
 <Packy> 
wait
 <Freakworld> 
that game was kinda meh
 <Meta_Knight> 
unless you were theh one controlling it yeah
 <Packy> 
oh shit nvm
 <Packy> 
I had to look it up
 <Gamefreak75> 
if you could figure out spider puzzles in .000001 seconds it wasnt luck
 <NSY> 
those three are considered the three good games as well
 <Packy> 
it's not the pipe maze I was thinking of lol
 <Packy> 
I was thinking of that pipe maze minigame from I think MP7
 <Packy> 
which is luck anyways but it's pretty fun
 <_2257> 
is it actually called pipe maze?
 <turb> 
think so
 <_2257> 
oh
 <turb> 
oh
 <turb> 
mp7
 <turb> 
idk
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
wow is that exactly 18
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we did it
 <Packy> 
yeah idk what the one in MP7 is called
 <turb> 
in that case probably not
 <Packy> 
o3o
 <turb> 
i had to look up the one from the original n64 version and i didnt see an (MP7) page
 <turb> 
but w/e
 <_2257> 
ok
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
that minigame was graet
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
*great
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
warp pipe dreams
 
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 <Freakworld> 
best minigame is still the motorcycle gp from mp8
 <Glitchy> 
warp pipe dreams was so fun
 <Freakworld> 
thats like what mario kart couldve been in terms of characters
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so that leaves us with:
 <Glitchy> 
my favourite in the series is still camera shy
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*Edo's thing for Location
 <Glitchy> 
idk it was fun
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*5th new award idea
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
oh wait no
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
2d level
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=36572.0
 <Freakworld> 
the one with 3v1 where you had to look the other direction in mp2 was gr8 as well
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
this one will be fun
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm creating the poll right now
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
you all have like 10 minutes to fill it out
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if you don't do it, you don't get a vote
 <Uniju> 
poll hype\
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
unless you shit your pants on the forum afterwards but, details
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if you have any more suggestions for nominees
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
you had a week to do it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so, sucks
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
poll is up
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
my clock reads 9:04 now, I'll be generous and say 9:15
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
is when it will close
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I know you guys can do it
 <Glitchy> 
so did anyone find out which lost levels level had the bullshit spring
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
you've trained hard for this
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
click options at the speed of light
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
no one told me any specific lost levels so none were added
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I can't add an entire thing in bulk
 <Uniju> 
#ivoted
 <Lakituthequick> 
i was the first what do i win
 <Glitchy> 
ok
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
done
 <Nyrie> 
i voted
 <Freakworld> 
me too
 <Packy> 
anton i can't access the poll : - (
 <Freakworld> 
i was 3rd
 <Packy> 
forever alone
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
#ivoted
 <NSY> 
shit
 <NSY> 
added two more suggests
 <NSY> 
too late
 <Freakworld> 
wow endless world of yoshis is unpopular lol
 <Gamefreak75> 
am i seriosuly the only one who voted doodle woods
 <Gamefreak75> 
what the fuck you guys
 <Freakworld> 
all levels in wl4 are great imo
 <Gamefreak75> 
false
 <Freakworld> 
no exceptions
 <Gamefreak75> 
topaz passage
 <Glitchy> 
voted
 <Freakworld> 
also uh
 <turb> 
the big board
 <Freakworld> 
i dont remember the very long cave for some reason
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if you don't remember any levels, you have
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
8 minutes
 <_2257> 
glitchy it was 7-3 if we're thinking of the same thing
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
to look it up on the wiki
 <Freakworld> 
OH GOD THATS 6-5
 <Freakworld> 
fuck i shouldve voted for it
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yep
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
7 minutes
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
that fucking cave
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
you can change your vote
 <Freakworld> 
oh well itll get in anyways
 <Toadbert> 
okay
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
it was the only one that i couldn't 100 point until next year of the regular levels
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
*last year
 <Uniju> 
you guys should have been prepared for this just by virtue of having played mario games before
 <Freakworld> 
i dont have that option anton
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
*two years ago
 <Glitchy> 
i'm thinking of this spring that took you back to the first level
 <Freakworld> 
oh wait i reloaded its there now
 <Freakworld> 
sorry
 <turb> 
#ivoted
 <Uniju> 
then again the level polls both got nothing but dkc and wl4 so i cant blame you for not being familar with this shit
 <Toadbert> 
whatd i miss
 <_2257> 
oh
 <Meta_Knight> 
voted
 <NSY> 
world 4-2 from smb2 is there twice
 <_2257> 
wasnt it like 3-1
 <turb> 
tb http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=36572.0
 <Glitchy> 
though i'm not sure if I ever made it as far as world 7
 <Glitchy> 
it might have been 3-1
 <Toadbert> 
oh.................................
 <_2257> 
yeah no the bullshit spring in 7-3 is
 <_2257> 
it bounces you up way high in the air
 <_2257> 
off the screen
 <_2257> 
so you have to try and land while having no idea where you actually are
 <Toadbert> 
8 castle
 <Toadbert> 
is bowsers castle right
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
NSY: I removed the one with the least votes
 <Toadbert> 
in smb3
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
thx
 <_2257> 
and the ground is just a few tiny platforms
 <_2257> 
above a bottomless pit
 <Freakworld> 
everything uniju suggested isnt that bad tbh so i abstained voting from these and only voted for levels i consider worse
 <Freakworld> 
than those
 <Toadbert> 
shit
 <Tailmon> 
well i remember none of these and don't have the time or good internet to look them up in 5 minutes
 <Toadbert> 
are we acting on these right away
 <Tailmon> 
good luck!
 <Toadbert> 
i need to look up these levels again
 <Toadbert> 
pls
 <Tailmon> 
you don't have dial-up
 <Tailmon> 
you can do it tb
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
if it helps
 <Tailmon> 
i have faith in you
 <Toadbert> 
which 4-2 smb2 do i vote for
 <turb> 
just vote for all of my suggestions
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
the very long cave is the one from the final world of yoshi's island that autoscrolls underground
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
it's shit
 <Freakworld> 
also the special levels in smw werent that bad tbh
 <Uniju> 
refresh tb
 <Toadbert> 
i havent finished yoshis island
 <Freakworld> 
they were challenging
 <Toadbert> 
theres nothing new
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
finish it tb
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
finish it
 <Toadbert> 
im TRTYING but i just lost all my votes from refreshing
 <_2257> 
tubular ws annoying as fuck
 <_2257> 
the others were all ok
 <Toadbert> 
no one answered me on 8-castle smb3 being bowsers castle
 <Toadbert> 
or the fortress
 <_2257> 
but tubular was just bullshit
 <Freakworld> 
yeah i remember tubular
 <Freakworld> 
i dont think its badly designed its just well annoying yeah
 <Toadbert> 
oh tubular
 <Toadbert> 
i remember this
 <Freakworld> 
endless world of yoshis on the other hand for example is just random bullshit no skill involved
 <turb> 
i dont remember tubular because i never got that far
 <turb> 
rip
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
the latter parts were good
 <Meta_Knight> 
i ended up beating it without the p balloon
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
but
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
that spike drop path
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
maybe if you didn't have to go down it four times
 <Freakworld> 
thats true blocky but fuck the castle
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
exactly
 <Freakworld> 
yeah the fucking spike drop
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
like if it was one and done that would just be challenging
 <Toadbert> 
oh
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
but it's way too much
 <Freakworld> 
the end is nice in that it basically goes through the tutorial level again
 <Toadbert> 
ok i might remember tubular being a fuck
 <Freakworld> 
but overall its just a poorly designed level in an otherwise great game
 <Toadbert> 
i am now going to pull up that smb3 emulator
 <_2257> 
the spike drop isnt so bad once you realise the trick
 <_2257> 
the exact center is clear all the way down
 <Freakworld> 
it takes you too long to figure out though
 <Freakworld> 
also theres not enough votes for minecart madness imo
 <_2257> 
minecart madness was less anoying than mine cart carnage
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok plz finish up if you haven't
 <Toadbert> 
holy shit
 <Freakworld> 
the minecart is complete bogus
 <Toadbert> 
what is 3-3 smb3
 <Toadbert> 
my emulator is having a stroke when i play this
 <_2257> 
big bertha
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'll let tb finish because I'm a good friend
 <Freakworld> 
tbf 2257 i submitted that because i think it stands for dkc minecart controls in general
 <Toadbert> 
a flippy thing keeps generating on top of me
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
the big fish
 <Toadbert> 
i keep getting pushed back
 <Toadbert> 
i dont think thats supposed to happen
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
tb it's the big fish
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
that eats you
 <_2257> 
yeah but it was so much more annoying in carnage because you couldnt get out of the minecart at all
 <Toadbert> 
i know i just played it
 <_2257> 
it was just the whole level
 <Toadbert> 
im saying my emulator is doing weird shit
 <Glitchy> 
minecart madness at least has pretty sweet music
 <Freakworld> 
i guess i could agree but more people will remember this one, so ill probably reach my goal of the mnecart getting defiled this way
 <Toadbert> 
3-5 isnt bad
 <Toadbert> 
god DAMN
 <Toadbert> 
what code is causing this
 <_2257> 
remember when the dkcr devs thought everyone loved the minecart and included it like 15 times
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
i love it
 <_2257> 
but with less functional controls than it had on the snes
 <_2257> 
i do
 <Freakworld> 
yeah but that minecart actually responds
 <Freakworld> 
lol
 <Freakworld> 
LOL
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
what
 <Freakworld> 
L O L
 <Gamefreak75> 
but ohkos
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
you can duck
 <Toadbert> 
hey i cant vote down 7-8
 <Toadbert> 
this one has the hidden hammer suit room
 <_2257> 
yeah no the minecart in dkcr is garbage
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
stop
 <_2257> 
sorry for your loss
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
you have a max vote of 15 selections
 <Toadbert> 
i voted 4
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if that's what you mean
 <Toadbert> 
im in
 <Toadbert> 
no i mean
 <Toadbert> 
i dont want to vote down 7-8
 <Freakworld> 
okay arguably ive only played a level with the mincart once and i had no problems there so
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
oh
 <Toadbert> 
thanks anton you saved me
 <Freakworld> 
while minecart madness took me way too many times
 <_2257> 
"i havent played the game but i have strong opinions" ~ freakworld
 <Freakworld> 
*tries
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
tb did it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
poll is locked
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
22 plz giv top 15-18 results
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
record speed voting
 <Freakworld> 
yeah 2257 im copying francis from spm
 <_2257> 
1. The Very Long Cave (YI)
 <_2257> 
13 (9.6%)
 <_2257> 
2. Tubular (SMW)
 <_2257> 
11 (8.1%)
 <_2257> 
3. World 8-3 (SMB)
 <_2257> 
9 (6.7%)
 <_2257> 
3. 6-Secret (YI)
 <_2257> 
9 (6.7%)
 <_2257> 
5. World 9-7 (NSMBW)
 <_2257> 
8 (5.9%)
 <Freakworld> 
yea top 3
 <_2257> 
6. Lakitu's Wall (YI)
 <_2257> 
7 (5.2%)
 <_2257> 
6. Minecart Madness (DKC)
 <_2257> 
7 (5.2%)
 <_2257> 
8. World 8-Castle (SMB3)
 <_2257> 
6 (4.4%)
 <_2257> 
8. Stampede Sprint (DKC3)
 <_2257> 
6 (4.4%)
 <_2257> 
8. World 8-1 (SMB)
 <_2257> 
6 (4.4%)
 <_2257> 
8. World 4-2 (SMB2)
 <Gamefreak75> 
i hope at least big board makes it up there
 <_2257> 
6 (4.4%)
 <_2257> 
8. World 7-8 SMB3
 <_2257> 
6 (4.4%)
 <_2257> 
13. The Big Board (WL4)
 <_2257> 
5 (3.7%)
 <_2257> 
14. World 9-8 (NSMBU)
 <Toadbert> 
you did it
 <_2257> 
4 (3%)
 <_2257> 
14. Doodle Woods (WL4)
 <_2257> 
4 (3%)
 <_2257> 
14. World 4-4 SMB
 <_2257> 
4 (3%)
 <_2257> 
14. World 7-4 SMB
 <_2257> 
4 (3%)
 <_2257> 
14. World 3-5 SMB3
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
4-4 was gr8
 <_2257> 
4 (3%)
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
:(
 <_2257> 
14. World 6-4 SMB3
 <_2257> 
4 (3%)
 <_2257> 
world 8-3 is like one of the only smb levels i liked
 <_2257> 
what was bad abotu it
 <Freakworld> 
is 4-4 the multipath one
 <turb> 
does that mean all of the wl4 levels i suggested besides pinball zone got in
 <turb> 
feelsgoodman
 <Meta_Knight> 
the hammer bros.
 <Meta_Knight> 
all of them
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
hold on
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
is this too many
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
final showdown
 <Gamefreak75> 
i shouldve suggestedfiery cavern
 <Gamefreak75> 
maybe next time
 <Toadbert> 
hammer bros
 <_2257> 
yeah theresa 6 way tie
 <Lakituthequick> 
19 i think
 <_2257> 
for last
 <Toadbert> 
and no easy way to get past them
 <Gamefreak75> 
bump doodle woods in
 <Glitchy> 
8-3 was that one with the annoying hammer bros
 <_2257> 
or 14th ayway
 <Toadbert> 
unless you just so happen to still somehow have a fire flower
 <Glitchy> 
fuck that level
 <Toadbert> 
the hammers in smb are op
 <Glitchy> 
world 8 is overall terrible tbh
 <Freakworld> 
rip sea turtle rocks
 <_2257> 
sea turtle rocks was legitimately bad
 <Freakworld> 
that level was extremely lazily designed
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we only need to get rid of 1
 <Toadbert> 
i liked the castle wall background but other than that
 <NSY> 
world 8 in smb1 is nintendo trying to make the game "hard"
 <Gamefreak75> 
get rid of one of the smb levels then
 <Toadbert> 
nsy have you played smb2 japan
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
World 9-8 (NSMBU), Doodle Woods (WL4), World 4-4 (SMB), World 7-4 (SMB), World 3-5 (SMB3), World 6-4 (SMB3)
 <Freakworld> 
world 8 in smb1 was just created to fuck over speedrunners
 <Freakworld> 
if you play it normally its pretty easy tbh
 <Toadbert> 
you can even farm lives in 8-2
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so how should we decide this
 <NSY> 
yes
 <NSY> 
toadbert
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
should I reset the poll with just these options
 <turb> 
so i cant say i know what any of those are off the top of my head besides doodle woods
 <Freakworld> 
remove 4-4 from smb1 imo
 <Uniju> 
yes
 <Uniju> 
i love voting on polls
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
or is there already a universal consensus
 <Toadbert> 
i wonder if world 8 was nintendo hard at the time
 <NSY> 
wolrd 4-4 and 7-4 are very similar
 <Toadbert> 
or they just got lazy and put the difficulty to the next game
 <turb> 
is it going to be a vote where the least amount of votes gets booted off
 <Gamefreak75> 
drop 4-4 i guess
 <Gamefreak75> 
one fo the smb levels
 <turb> 
drop 4-4
 <NSY> 
i would keep 7-4 because it repeats the shitty idea
 <_2257> 
i woudl drop 3-5
 <NSY> 
rather than at least introduce it
 <Glitchy> 
drop 4-4
 <Toadbert> 
what did people hate baout the smb3 levels
 <Toadbert> 
they didnt seem disgusting to me
 <Freakworld> 
8-castle is dumb
 <_2257> 
6-4 was a load of icy platforms over the void iirc
 <_2257> 
that's annoying
 <Meta_Knight> 
i would just say reset the poll
 <Toadbert> 
yeah but theyre 2x2 from what i saw
 <Meta_Knight> 
with only those options
 <turb> 
i guess go with that
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm resetting the poll
 <Freakworld> 
the rest of world 8 was original and the best levels in the game but the castle was just stupid
 <turb> 
but if doodle woods doesnt get on this award ill cry
 <Gamefreak75> 
me too
 <Gamefreak75> 
so do we vote for the one to remove?
 <Freakworld> 
y
 <turb> 
i assumed it was one with the least votes gets axed
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
yes
 <turb> 
but idk
 <turb> 
o
 <Freakworld> 
.
 <turb> 
i fucked up okay
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=36572.0
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
vote
 <turb> 
dont judge me fw
 <Toadbert> 
im juding you
 <Freakworld> 
i dont care
 <Glitchy> 
voted
 <Freakworld> 
if thats whats been implied to you its fine
 <Uniju> 
voted
 <_2257> 
i assumed what turb did too but the fact that you only get 1 vote clarifies thinggs
 <NSY> 
done
 <turb> 
voted
 <Meta_Knight> 
voeted
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
#ivoted
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
with the amount of voters we have available here, 4-4 is at a strong enough lead to be dropped from the nominee list
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
yay
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
it's one of my favourite smb1 levels
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
voting is locked
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
has always been one
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
since i was like
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
5
 <_2257> 
was 3-5 really that bad
 <Lakituthequick> 
The Very Long Cave (YI), Tubular (SMW), World 8-3 (SMB), 6-Secret (YI), World 9-7 (NSMBW), Lakitu's Wall (YI), Minecart Madness (DKC), World 8-Castle (SMB3), Stampede Sprint (DKC3), World 8-1 (SMB), World 4-2 (SMB2), World 7-8 (SMB3), The Big Board (WL4), World 9-8 (NSMBU), Doodle Woods (WL4), World 7-4 (SMB), World 3-5 (SMB3), World 6-4 (SMB3)
 <Toadbert> 
i dnot think so
 <turb> 
to be fair i voted for 3-5's removal after looking at the level again
 <turb> 
also im gonna go get a drink
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so we still need to discuss the 5th new award idea
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and figure out what it will be
 <Toadbert> 
be careful turb
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=36603.0
 <Meta_Knight> 
i would vote for worst roster
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I want to start User awards tonight in some fashion so we will stop discussing Fail in like 10 minutes
 <Freakworld> 
i have no idea which one to take tbh
 <Freakworld> 
a
 <Nyrie> 
worst roster is the best one honestly
 <Freakworld> 
(ive read through that earlier today)
 <turb> 
im alive
 <Glitchy> 
I would go with worst roster
 <Freakworld> 
wb
 <turb> 
also yeah im good with worst roster tbh
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
this ties in to http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=36644.0
 <turb> 
im still iffy on the idea but i think its the strongest one we have
 <Gamefreak75> 
is it worst roster in general?
 <Gamefreak75> 
or worst addition?
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Edo had a suggestion to take all of the RPG levels that are getting shot out of awards we're restructuring and removing
 <turb> 
if it's in general it's good
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and creating a Worst RPG Level award
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
to finish the level triad
 <Gamefreak75> 
id prefer that
 <Gamefreak75> 
worst rpg level
 <Meta_Knight> 
what would be defined as rpg level
 <Freakworld> 
that sounds like a good idea
 <turb> 
i'd be fine with it
 <Meta_Knight> 
would it be like worst chapter?
 <Tailmon> 
i think i like worst rpg level more too
 <NSY> 
worst rpg area might be a better wording
 <turb> 
it looks like he wanted to do that next year though
 <Gamefreak75> 
anything in smrpg, paper mario, or mario and luigi games
 <turb> 
but
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it could be I guess
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
worst RPG area
 <Nyrie> 
worst chapter, and also stuff from m&l games
 <turb> 
if we can do it this year i think that's ok
 <Nyrie> 
like shroob castle or whatever
 <Gamefreak75> 
its pretty self explanatory
 <Tailmon> 
worst roster was the best suggestion in the thread i think but i was still kind of ehh on it
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
that's my suggestion
 <Nyrie> 
i still like worst roster though
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
since we want to start user
 <Nyrie> 
also per blocky
 <Glitchy> 
worst rpg level sounds better actually
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
maybe make this a forum vote/dicussion?
 <Glitchy> 
but worst roster is ok
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
"do we do worst roster addition or rpg level"
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we should decide the direction we're gonna take now
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
ok
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so we have time to figure out nominees for whichever one we go with
 <Meta_Knight> 
yeah but that sounds too similar to worst location, and all of the "levels" in m&l are more areas
 <NSY> 
i like both ideas
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if we gotta tweak the name of either one afterwards that's fine
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so long as we have the general idea
 <NSY> 
but slightly prefer the rpg one
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i'm ambivalent entirey
 <Freakworld> 
idc much but rpg level sounds like a good idea
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so let's have a vote
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
what is an 'rpg level'
 <Freakworld> 
roster does too but idk if it wouldnt just come down to
 <Freakworld> 
which game is worse
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
no
 <turb> 
rpg area
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we'll figure out a precise name later so long as we have a general idea
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
level, area, etc.
 <turb> 
things like thwomp volcano and flopside and the like
 <turb> 
i assume
 <Gamefreak75> 
yes
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
as with roster addition, which had disagreement on its meaning
 <Gamefreak75> 
thats what im assuming
 <Meta_Knight> 
but you're in those areas multiple time
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we're just voting for which direction to take
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so, with that:
 <turb> 
mk the thing about worst location is
 <turb> 
it's getting revamped into worst setting
 <turb> 
and including stuff like the entire main area of the game
 <turb> 
like subcon, northern kremisphere, etc
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Vote: Which new award concept should we work on? (Roster / RPG / a)
 <turb> 
so any similarities it has with the current award arent really a concern
 <turb> 
rpg
 <Freakworld> 
rpg
 <_2257> 
rpg
 <Meta_Knight> 
Roster
 <Toadbert> 
rpg
 <SonicMario> 
Roster
 <Nyrie> 
rpg
 <NSY> 
rpg
 <Lakituthequick> 
roster
 <Glitchy> 
r;pg
 <Uniju> 
rpg
 <Tailmon> 
a
 <SMB> 
A
 <Glitchy> 
*rpg
 <Tailmon> 
after further thought i do not have a strong preference
 <Packy> 
a
 <Gamefreak75> 
rpg
 <Tailmon> 
3-9-2.5
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
rpg
 <Tailmon> 
3-10-2.5
 <mcd> 
rpg
 <Tailmon> 
3-11-2.5
 <Tailmon> 
i guess we have a winner
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
rip
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
unless there is any more discussion on this, we will go with the rpg concept
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I will create a thread to work it out after the meeting
 <Nyrie> 
yay i can actually contribute to nominees on this award
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so as of this moment Fail Awards still need to complete the new F4 (the rpg concept) and edo's idea for F14
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
both things that can be fully discussed and worked out on the forum to be accepted in whole at the start of next meeting
 <Freakworld> 
cool
 <NSY> 
that sounds good
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
with that we will begin User Awards
 <Glitchy> 
ok
 <Lakituthequick> 
:calp:
 <Lakituthequick> 
*clap
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sfP1dSVCv-70pmkc8Vp8Oe0XM7D-rMk4HdmRnOHX-W0/edit -- detailed results from last year
 <Toadbert> 
grea8
 <Freakworld> 
do we have a worst user award
 <Freakworld> 
plzplzplzplz
 <Tailmon> 
i nominate freakworld
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we had a sub-committee work out some of the ideas already and I'll get to those in a moment
 <Freakworld> 
tbh id nominate myself
 <Freakworld> 
anyways
 <Freakworld> 
so
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
tonight I just intend on introducing the big picture as well as large ideas
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
just one moment
 <Freakworld> 
*drumroll*
 <Toadbert> 
are we still using the quick topic after this
 <Toadbert> 
or is this what its been building to
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we can, idk lol
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
probably move most of it public
 <Freakworld> 
"idk lol" -anton, 2016
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok so there were 2 big ideas that we had discussed
 <Toadbert> 
but what about all the shittalking we did about everyone'
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
one being U1, the other being the removal of U9 Favorite Community Game to replace it with a wiki contributor based award
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
Favorite Community Game has been a very weak and ill-defined award
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and tbh was kinda just filler
 <Glitchy> 
wasn't it like a 4 way tie lol
 <Freakworld> 
tbh thats kind of right
 <NSY> 
4 things got 12 votes
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
yeah it's never held up as well
 <Freakworld> 
the definition was pretty vague as well
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
because mafia is the true winner
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
all years every years
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
this wiki contributor award will be outsourced to the wiki administrators to define and create nominees for
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I've already discussed this with turb
 <turb> 
yeah
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
this was initially walkazo's idea, and unfortunately she will be unable to see it through to its end
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but I believe there was enough discussion generated about it privately to lead to a clear definition
 <Freakworld> 
:(
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
:(
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
:(
 <mcd> 
quick question
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
one goal we had was to keep it contemporary, and as a way to honor prolific wiki editors
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok
 <Tailmon> 
:(
 <mcd> 
unless you want to save them until the end or something
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
I still haven't processed Walkazo's death
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
you can say it
 <mcd> 
will the contributor award be, like, open to anyone or specifically to non-admins
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
anyone
 <mcd> 
ah ok
 <Freakworld> 
porple for best contributor
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I greatly prefer that it is open to everyone
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it's not set in stone but that's what my strong urging is towards the wiki admins when they discuss it
 <turb> 
i dont see any reason why it shouldnt be open to everyone yeah
 <turb> 
theres wiki editors that arent admins and have still contributed a lot
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i support open to everyone
 <mcd> 
who could that be *shifty*
 <Freakworld> 
per everyone
 <turb> 
mcd you're a patroller
 <turb> 
go
 <mcd> 
the idea of admins nominating other admins seems a bit weird to me but eh
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
the reason it's being outsourced to the wiki admins is because they're the group of people who will be able to make the best nominations with ample reasoning
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
do you guys feel a week will be enough time
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
2 weeks
 <turb> 
2 weeks would be the most
 <Tailmon> 
open to everyone
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
2 weeks sounds, fine
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
the wiki board can be really dead
 <mcd> 
for the record i think open to everyone is better but i was just wondering
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we can have a progress report by the next meeting
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
if there's any questions or concerns that need to be made and worked out
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
that sounds gr8
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'll schedule it that way
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
also i support open to everybody
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I think edo was going to post the proposal in the wiki admin board himself once it got time
 <Glitchy> 
i would want it to be open to anyone
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so if you guys just want to wait until that happens that'll be gr8
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm not expecting it'll be too long
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it'll just be the ~official~ proposal
 <mcd> 
[02:51] turb mcd you're a patroller
 <mcd> 
oh wait i thought you said "are admins"
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
the next big idea
 <mcd> 
welp
 <turb> 
o
 <turb> 
it's ok
 <Freakworld> 
*drumrollintensifies*
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
is regarding U1
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
this will be a more somber topic, so
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
with Walkazo's passing we were unsure exactly how to handle it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I felt that listing her as "Retired" is just not wording that I
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
really like
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but failing to include her at all would be wrong
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
what we opted to do was to just avoid the problem entirely to create something better
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
we will be dropping U1 Favorite Retired User for this year
 <Freakworld> 
okay
 <turb> 
ok
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
to create a space for a dedication to Walkazo
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
OK
 <Lakituthequick> 
good
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
dippy has already approached us to write something for it
 <Glitchy> 
that sounds like a good idea
 <NSY> 
im happy with that
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I will not be holding it down to the usual 5-minute presentation slot
 <Freakworld> 
thats absolutely fine
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
dippy will have as much time as she needs and the ceremony schedule will adapt around it
 <turb> 
im fine with that
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
works for me
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
I'm fine with that, too
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
other people are welcome to do whatever they feel that they would like to do
 <Glitchy> 
that's perfectly fine
 <Toadbert> 
that sounds like that could take a while
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
bonesy had an idea to create a separate thread to post everyone's dedications throughout the ceremony, with dippy's being the one posted in the official thread to open the ceremony
 <Toadbert> 
well
 <Toadbert> 
i guess a half hour or something isnt a huge deal
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
as of this moment, I don't really know what it will be
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I'm guessing 30 minutes yeah
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but it's not like we had ample time to prepare for this
 <Meta_Knight> 
i feel that this is a good idea
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i like bonesy's idea
 <Freakworld> 
per
 <SMB> 
I agree with the whole idea
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
it makes it feel less lumped together
 <NSY> 
per all
 <Glitchy> 
per bonsey's idea
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
gr8
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
he'll be so happy
 <turb> 
bonesy's idea is good
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
I
 <Tailmon> 
i agree with bonesy's idea
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
there are a number of issues with this
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I do know that the shroom had /something/
 <Freakworld> 
oh boy
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
can we make sure the mods are on the topic like a hawk
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
well, duh
 <turb> 
they already are during the ceremony
 <Gamefreak75> 
ill contact them
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
of course we'll be doing our jobs
 <turb> 
there's no reason why this would be any different
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
thank
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
in fact i'm a little insulted
 <Gamefreak75> 
perch u suck
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
no u
 <Freakworld> 
ayy lmao
 <Gamefreak75> 
>:#
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
pidgey will this plan for U1 interfere with anything that the Shroom has planned
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
because
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
no
 <_2257> 
pdigey just wants you to be liek a hawk because he's a bird supreamacist
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
we scrapped it entirely
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
because
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
lumped into this would be a swapping of positions for the User and Shroom ceremonies
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
traditionally Shroom goes first, followed by UP
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
we felt it was better to have one big thing as opposed to two smaller things
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
in order to allow the U1 to be the opener, User Awards would be going first
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I don't see this being an issue at all but
 <Freakworld> 
that sounds fair as well
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
it's not
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I feel like it should still be stated before I just go and do it lol
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
i have 0 problems
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
anyhow, pi
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
besides moderation
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
what else is up
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
that's the only real issue I had, really
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
since it's 10pm I'll close this up with another general thing
 <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 
oh ok
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
about the topic things
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
anyway
 <Freakworld> 
10pm?
 <NSY> 
est
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
I'll just confirm that yes, I agree with moving UP before 'Shroom.
 <Freakworld> 
oh wait timezones
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
the rest of the User awards are the nitty-gritty additions/removals
 <SMB> 
I was going to ask a question, but it seems we're out of time.
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
with U7 Favorite Community Event being another award considered for removal, but there are currently no new ideas
 <Freakworld> 
ok
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so if anyone has something that they think could replace it, please suggest it on the forum, otherwise we will go ahead with basic additions/removals
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
and smb you can ask
 <SMB> 
I don't know which other awards Walkazo might be nominated for, but this was a concern I had in 'Shroom Awards discussions
 <Toadbert> 
i think i was the only one to bring that up on the quicktopic
 <Toadbert> 
and we just kinda figured we'd leave her in everything else
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
undoubtedly she will be in the Wiki contributor award, as well as U10 community achievement and Favorite Artist and others
 <SMB> 
And in case there were any User Awards she is potentially eligible to be nominated for, I want to bring it up so that it can be discussed in a general sense
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
oh right
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
politicising about a deceased user
 <SMB> 
Okay, so the position is that she will still be nominated?
 <Toadbert> 
she's probably going to dominate all those awards
 <Toadbert> 
but you can't remove her from them
 <turb> 
am i allowed to bring up shroom awards discussion in here
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
she will remain a nominee in those awards as for this year at least
 <turb> 
or shroom staff discussion
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
any removals will be case-by-case next year, as for how user awards go
 <Freakworld> 
i feel like thats suitable
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
but tbh idk how the shroom is/will be handling it
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
it's a very tough subject
 <SMB> 
Well, obviously I'm leaving that up to Pi and the 'Shroom Staff to decide
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
I am open for whatever you guys feel is appropriate
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
the thing is
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
we had this discussion about favourite Walkazo written section
 <turb> 
if favorite retired user is getting removed in favor of the dedication, should walkazo be on retired writer
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
but SMB was against that idea IIRC
 <turb> 
or did we scrap that
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
correct me if I'm wrong here, SMB
 <turb> 
like, should we still go with adding her
 <turb> 
because i remember that was discussed
 <turb> 
and it feels iffy
 <turb> 
maybe it's just me
 <SMB> 
No, what I was worried about specifically was if including her, as a deceased user, as an option on a publicly voted poll is appropriate.
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
turb: it was much easier to decide as it was U1 for User Awards, but in the shroom that award is S4 and a more minor award relatively
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
i.e it's not S1 or S10
 <Freakworld> 
should we move discussion about this to other places/another meeting or
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
right
 <turb> 
alright
 <turb> 
well i'm not suggesting it gets removed
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so the issue that I evaded is something I assume they'll have to actually address
 <turb> 
i'm just wonderinf it it's appropriate
 <turb> 
i guess it'll be brought up in the next meeting
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
we're still not entirely sure about what to do with Shroom awards but
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
I think we'll have a meeting this Sunday
 
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 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
to finish it up
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
so
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
ok
 
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
so again as we wrap up:
 <Freakworld> 
did we survive
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*F4 will need to be completed, discussion will be created in a new topic soon
 <Chiaki_Nanami> 
I'll report to you what we've decided on after the meeting is over
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*F14 will need to be worked out, discussion will continue on the forum
 <NSY> 
goodnight
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
*User Awards information will be dispersed in the User Awards General Discussion topic as the week goes on with next meeting hopefully being a quick and easy vote-to-approve fest
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
anyone in the User Awards Sub-Committee plz continue posting in the qt
 
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 <Anton{Politoed}> 
beyond that I believe that's it for tonight!!
 <Anton{Politoed}> 
thank you all for coming~
 <Uniju> 
gg
 <Packy> 
WE DID IT
 
Packy spits confetti
 <mcd> 
meeting hype