'Shroom Person of the Year 2016-2017 (Yoshi876, Mr. Edo, Anton, FunkyK38, MrConcreteDonkey, Toadbert101, Tucayo, Andymii, 2257, Meta Knight, Superchao)
<Anton{Politoed}>
but in https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=38483.0 Lord_Bowser suggested removing tb and adding tpg
<Anton{Politoed}>
feel free to take like 20 seconds to read that post before I go and call a vote
<Anton{Politoed}>
so
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Remove Toadbert101 and add The Pyro Guy to C14? (y/n/a)
<Lord_Bowser>
y
<Lakituthequick>
y
<GBAToad>
y
<GBAToad>
im alive btw
<meowth>
q
<meowth>
a
<Anton{Politoed}>
y
<shoutmon>
y
<turb>
y
<meowth>
6-0-1-0 (q)
<turb>
i will say though that i feel iffy on removing tb
<turb>
im convinced tpg is a good choice but i just feel _ about that
<Anton{Politoed}>
me too
<Lord_Bowser>
i mean tbf i meant for them to be separate
<GBAToad>
same
<Anton{Politoed}>
but idk man I liked his section but I can't exactly justify that as a reason for him to be on C14
<turb>
yeah
<turb>
i know what you mean
<Lord_Bowser>
as in have separate calls for removing tb and adding tpg
<Lord_Bowser>
sorry if that confused anyone
<Anton{Politoed}>
either way Y to both is what looks like what's happening
<Lakituthequick>
well i'd have voted the same thing even if the votes were seperate so
with Shroom and User Awards being merged, the scope of Shroom Person of the Year and Community Achievement are now more blatantly overlapped than they once were
<Anton{Politoed}>
and I believe would be subject to just making those 2 into 1 award somewhere down the line
<Anton{Politoed}>
but not this year
<Lakituthequick>
well really only walkazo has the more recent things considering <=2014 as long-ish ago
<GBAToad>
Stoob hosted shroom mafia
<Lakituthequick>
well others hosted awards mafia
<turb>
tbh shroom mafia is an unironic achievement
<Lakituthequick>
i dont see them listed for that
<GBAToad>
and was director of sw until like two years ago
<GBAToad>
at least iirc
<GBAToad>
idk shroom mafia was a huge thing to pull off imo
<turb>
i think im fine with keeping everyone on there just since it would be easier and i feel like everyone is recent enough to still count
<turb>
and not be "this guy from years ago that's on the award because we didn't clean it up"
<Anton{Politoed}>
well let's do this in two parts
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Keep C15 as being defined by recent relevancy rather than on an annual basis? (y/n/a)
<shoutmon>
a
<Anton{Politoed}>
y
<turb>
y
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<GBAToad>
y
<Lakituthequick>
y
<Lord_Bowser>
y
<Meta_Knight>
y
<Meta_Knight>
also back
<Lord_Bowser>
6-0-1
<Anton{Politoed}>
participation today seems very light
<Lakituthequick>
well
<Lord_Bowser>
df is at work
<Lakituthequick>
i think this is more of a bigger choice
<Anton{Politoed}>
we have 9 people who are here which is literally the minimum for holding a meeting
<Lakituthequick>
rather than participation
<Anton{Politoed}>
is there anyone from C15 that anyone feels should be removed
<Meta_Knight>
sorry i was afk before like i said i had to shower
<Meta_Knight>
and i dont think anyone else should be removed
<Lord_Bowser>
yeah i think the award is fine as is
<Anton{Politoed}>
or additions, even
<Lakituthequick>
add me
<Lakituthequick>
(it's fine)
<turb>
i considered yoshikong
<turb>
hes a crat now
<Meta_Knight>
yoshikong would be good in my opinion
<Lord_Bowser>
oh yeah yk wouldn't be bad
<GBAToad>
per
<Meta_Knight>
it would also help differenciate this award from shroom person of the year i hink
<Anton{Politoed}>
he'd be listed as Shokora, as he is in the Wiki Contributor Award
<Lord_Bowser>
yeah that's fine
<Anton{Politoed}>
but ok let's do that
<GBAToad>
well yeah thats his username now anyway
<turb>
does he also run poll committee shit
<turb>
i can't remember
<Lord_Bowser>
no
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Add Shokora to C15? (y/n/a)
<GBAToad>
Y
<Meta_Knight>
y'
<Lord_Bowser>
andy and tucayo do
<turb>
y
<Lakituthequick>
a
<Lord_Bowser>
y
<Packy>
y
<Anton{Politoed}>
y
<Lord_Bowser>
5.5-0-1
<Anton{Politoed}>
where's the .5 coming from
<Meta_Knight>
packy's vote doesnt count i dont think if he isnt in the ac
<Lord_Bowser>
packy
<Lakituthequick>
half a vote?
<Lord_Bowser>
oh smasher made it count as half last time so
<Anton{Politoed}>
we stopped doing half votes this year
<Lord_Bowser>
oh okay
<Lord_Bowser>
5-0-1 then
Mode #mwikiawards -v Packy by Anton{Politoed}
<Packy>
;-;
<Lakituthequick>
devoice? did he had voice to begin with?
<Anton{Politoed}>
anything else for C15?
<Packy>
one of these days i will trick you all
<Meta_Knight>
nothing comes to my mind
<GBAToad>
move on imo
<Lord_Bowser>
yeah move on
<Anton{Politoed}>
up next are C2 and C11
<Anton{Politoed}>
which are complete but just really needs like
<Anton{Politoed}>
idk, me telling you it's done
<Lord_Bowser>
are they done
<Meta_Knight>
this is the one for best 'shroom artwork and best use of shroom images
<Anton{Politoed}>
there's some minor confusion regarding the difference between each of them
<Anton{Politoed}>
the definitions are fine but it's mostly in the names
<Anton{Politoed}>
C2 Best 'Shroom Section Artwork
<Anton{Politoed}>
refers to the actual artwork people produce on their own
<Anton{Politoed}>
drawings, etc.
<Anton{Politoed}>
C11 Best Use of Images in a ‘Shroom Section
<Anton{Politoed}>
refers to how people use graphics to enhance their sections
<turb>
theres also some nominees we were considering lopping off to better fit the definitions
<turb>
what was that name rework we were suggesting for c11
<Anton{Politoed}>
which may or may not be images produced by themselves, and could also include charts and diagrama
<Anton{Politoed}>
it's more of an aesthetic award than an art one, really
<Anton{Politoed}>
a nice section to look at
<turb>
yeah
<Meta_Knight>
what if we renamed it 'Best Aesthetics in a 'Shroom Section"
<Lord_Bowser>
i would maybe suggest "Best-Looking 'Shroom Section" but idk that just seems off
<turb>
god no
<turb>
memes
<Anton{Politoed}>
that sounds weird though
<turb>
memes everywhrere
<Lakituthequick>
aesthetics refers to non-images too
<Lakituthequick>
i think
<turb>
i mean it's not an actually bad suggestion its just that i think of the aesthetics meme every single time
<turb>
and idk if the voters will too
<Lakituthequick>
so like i use nice tables so
<shoutmon>
sexiest shroom section
<GBAToad>
turb i wont
<turb>
plus yeah the definition gets muddled there
<Anton{Politoed}>
'well put together' is a thing but idk how it fits in
<Anton{Politoed}>
y @ 22
<Lord_Bowser>
lol
<turb>
re: with tables
<turb>
i like 22's suggestion
<turb>
re: that name rework i accidentally butted in with earlier
<GBAToad>
I was gonna suggest lobbing in Usermade somewhere in C2 but thats redundant
<dia>
hi
<turb>
i think we were thinking "best supplemental use of images in a shroom section" or something
<turb>
wordy, but gets the meaning fully across
<Anton{Politoed}>
oh oh
<Anton{Politoed}>
Most Polished 'Shroom Section
<Anton{Politoed}>
what do i win
<dia>
oh that sounds good
<Lord_Bowser>
oh i like that actually
<Meta_Knight>
shoe polish
<turb>
that sounds like it would work
<Lakituthequick>
same thing as with aestics really
<Anton{Politoed}>
yeah i googled aesthetic synonyms
<Anton{Politoed}>
:bowser:
<Lakituthequick>
gdi anton
<dia>
:dk:
<Meta_Knight>
but yaeh this way we can include charts and tables as well
<GBAToad>
yeah it would work and it doesnt exclusively refer to the use of images
<turb>
it has the benefit of not giving me flashbacks to worst aesthetic
<GBAToad>
:^)
<Lakituthequick>
would open up the gates for pipe plaza writers
<Meta_Knight>
and lets be honest the tables in pipe plaza do look nice
<Meta_Knight>
yaeh
Lakituthequick coughs
<GBAToad>
smexy tables
<turb>
yeah
<Anton{Politoed}>
ok so
<Meta_Knight>
except when retro feature breaks the issue but thats another story
<Anton{Politoed}>
let's just make this formal before we move on if discussion re: name is finished
<Lakituthequick>
tbh most of the tables are coded weird but they do look inteligent
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Rename C11 to "Most Polished 'Shroom Section"? (y/n/a)
<Meta_Knight>
y
<Lord_Bowser>
y
<turb>
y
<Lakituthequick>
y
<dia>
y
<GBAToad>
we should give it a definition then to clarify why we're calling them polished but
<shoutmon>
y
<GBAToad>
y
<Anton{Politoed}>
y
<Anton{Politoed}>
and yeah that's the next step
<Lord_Bowser>
8-0-0
<Anton{Politoed}>
sending this back to the shroom crew to set up nominees again
<Anton{Politoed}>
which I'll leave up to Meta_Knight to say whether that should be in the shroom staff board or ac staff
<Meta_Knight>
i'll update the thread we have for the split with this decision and give the shroom staff a week to come up with new nominees/suggestions
<Anton{Politoed}>
gr8
<Lakituthequick>
would this in essence be equavalent to removing 'best use of images' as the definition was shifted so much
<Meta_Knight>
if nothing happens or we get it good it will be passed on to the ac
<Lakituthequick>
and adding a new award
<Anton{Politoed}>
pretty much, ltq
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<Anton{Politoed}>
dissolved Best Use of Images into two child awards
<Lakituthequick>
cool, then i'll mark the former as 'removed' in my notes
<Anton{Politoed}>
up next after this is C5
<Anton{Politoed}>
where all I have planned is to tell you we added eldritchdraaks
<Anton{Politoed}>
ok is that it
<Lakituthequick>
i've noticed him
<Anton{Politoed}>
next on my list is Complete Review so
<Anton{Politoed}>
I'll just open the floor for anyone who has literally anything they want to say or do
<Anton{Politoed}>
after the first Complete Review we'll get into tournaments and token shenanigans
<Lakituthequick>
i have some notes for during the full review
<turb>
throw a party and shit on the floor
<Lord_Bowser>
i'll have something to say when we get to tourney stuff
<Anton{Politoed}>
which will ride us out through the rest of the year, with an E3 speed bump where we hustle to update awards if necessary
<Lakituthequick>
and one commend on the entire list overall
<Anton{Politoed}>
and turb and I fucking panic while we get polls set up
<turb>
were there any pressing concerns people had during the awards that were still a touchy subject after voting
<GBAToad>
not that i can remember
<turb>
man i wish we could automate setting up polls
<Lakituthequick>
well turb
<Lakituthequick>
polldaddy literally has an api that supports that
<turb>
do they
<Anton{Politoed}>
is it free though
<turb>
^
<GBAToad>
poll me daddy
<turb>
pls no
<Lord_Bowser>
i'm in the poll committee so i can do that gbatoad :^)
<Lakituthequick>
well i dont know but i'd assume it is
<Anton{Politoed}>
polldaddy has lots of cool shit but it costs like $800 a year for it
Lakituthequick shrugs
<Anton{Politoed}>
such as tracking each vote by IP
<Anton{Politoed}>
I'll look into it
<GBAToad>
tbf thats not worth it anyway since we only use it once a year even if its for a fuckton of polls
<Lakituthequick>
anyway my overall point on the list
<Meta_Knight>
Anton turb gbatoad meowth any other shroom members: i updated that thread
<Lakituthequick>
regarding quotation marks
<turb>
:thumbsup:
<Lakituthequick>
there are two different variants of ' used in the full list
<Lakituthequick>
a simple search replace would probably solve that
<GBAToad>
lets keep ' over "
<Lakituthequick>
its not single versus double quotes
<GBAToad>
oh fuck i misread that
<Lakituthequick>
its curly single over normal single quotes
<turb>
is it literally just a different character for '
<turb>
meh
<GBAToad>
is it the thing word does
<turb>
yeah i think so
<Anton{Politoed}>
i think i did something just now
<turb>
replaces all the single quotes for no reason
<Lakituthequick>
yeah pretty much is what word does that i personally dont like
<Anton{Politoed}>
if it didn't change it just now despite what I did then *shrug*
<GBAToad>
also another stupid thing: did we decide on a format for the favourite actor award i cant remember
<Anton{Politoed}>
because I just replaced all with the same '
<Anton{Politoed}>
and yes we did and I've implemented it
<GBAToad>
good
<GBAToad>
i say move on then
<Anton{Politoed}>
ok so
<Lakituthequick>
quotes look good now
<Anton{Politoed}>
the way the Complete Review works is
<Anton{Politoed}>
we just look over every single award and decision, swiftly but carefully
<Anton{Politoed}>
to see if we made any huge fuckups or typos or anything
<Anton{Politoed}>
including oversights in additions and removals
<Anton{Politoed}>
it's probably the most boring thing to do, but
<Anton{Politoed}>
it's necessary just to ensure we haven't made silly mistakes
<Anton{Politoed}>
so
<GBAToad>
As much as i like having sma2 be a fail in itself
<Anton{Politoed}>
M1 Best Sound Design (Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, Paper Mario, Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Super Mario 64, Super Mario World, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, Super Paper Mario, Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest, Super Mario 3D World, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze,
<Anton{Politoed}>
Mario Kart 8/Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Mario & Luigi: Dream Team, Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam, Paper Mario: Color Splash)
<Anton{Politoed}>
M1 right off the bat shows that I standardized no spaces surrounding /
<Anton{Politoed}>
because that's my own personal typing quirk and as much as it kills me I can't have it affect the list
<Lakituthequick>
what is prefered normally
<Lakituthequick>
like i personally like surrounding spaces but what is the overall opinion
<Anton{Politoed}>
no spaces is the standard but
<Meta_Knight>
im fine with no spaces
<turb>
i have no opinion either way
<Anton{Politoed}>
idk bro i just think it's better to look at with spaces
<Lord_Bowser>
i don't mind either wat
<Meta_Knight>
you woulddnt write the date 04 / 22 / 17
<Meta_Knight>
but it doesnt really matter i gues
<Anton{Politoed}>
by "standard" I mean in actual english and not what we've decided
<shoutmon>
yeah youd write it 2017-04-22
<Lakituthequick>
dates and names are different things
<shoutmon>
because youre not a save
<shoutmon>
savage
<Lakituthequick>
also its Y-M-D or D-M-Y so
<shoutmon>
wrong, its only y-m-d
<Anton{Politoed}>
I will literally ban people if we debate this
shoutmonbans ltq
<Anton{Politoed}>
see, like that
<Anton{Politoed}>
anyways does M1 look fine
<Meta_Knight>
yes
<turb>
yes
<Lakituthequick>
yes
<Lord_Bowser>
yes
<GBAToad>
yass
<Anton{Politoed}>
M2 Favorite Mario Kart Game (Super Mario Kart, Mario Kart 64, Mario Kart: Super Circuit, Mario Kart: Double Dash!!, Mario Kart DS, Mario Kart Wii, Mario Kart 7, Mario Kart 8/Mario Kart 8 Deluxe)
<Meta_Knight>
y
<Lord_Bowser>
yeah
<Lakituthequick>
y
<dia>
i always do no spac/e
<turb>
y
<dia>
7
<dia>
y
<Anton{Politoed}>
this award is already all-inclusive afaik
<dia>
woops
<turb>
its everything except the arcade games and they always got like 2 votes total
<Lakituthequick>
well excluding arcade
<Anton{Politoed}>
the arcade ones got literally 0 votes last year
<shoutmon>
when they open the mario kart theme park ride will we add that
<Lakituthequick>
saw an article recently about the return of arcade halls
<Lakituthequick>
well not in these polls
<Lakituthequick>
but yeah m2 looks good
<Anton{Politoed}>
M3 Favorite Mario Platformer (Super Mario 64/Super Mario 64 DS, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Super Mario Bros., Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario World, New Super Mario Bros., New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Super Mario Sunshine, Super Mario 3D Land, New Super Mario Bros. U/New Super Luigi U, Super Mario 3D World, Super Mario Run)
<turb>
is this already all inclusive
<Anton{Politoed}>
we chopped off nsmb2
<turb>
oh i guess beyond smb2 but writeins
<Lakituthequick>
i think i saw SMR listed in worst spinoff as well
<turb>
and that
<GBAToad>
so skip
<Lakituthequick>
so what is SMR
<GBAToad>
super mario run
<GBAToad>
?
<shoutmon>
super mario run is the iphone game
<Lakituthequick>
a plaformer, a spinoff or both
<shoutmon>
why cant it be both
<shoutmon>
yoshi's island is both
<Lakituthequick>
well it fells a bit weird
<Lakituthequick>
it technically makes sense but __
<turb>
can't it be both
<turb>
i mean it literally is both isnt it
<Lakituthequick>
yeah
<Anton{Politoed}>
that's nintendo's fault for making only platformers the main games
<shoutmon>
spinoff isnt a very clearly defined term but i guess so
<turb>
a lot of things this year have been nintendo's fault if i'm perfectly honest
<turb>
see: favorite dlc
<Lord_Bowser>
yeah it's too much of both to make it specifically one or the other
<Lord_Bowser>
also true
<Anton{Politoed}>
when's mario fps
<GBAToad>
these whole awards are nintendos fault
<turb>
let's break away from nintendo next year and host the sony awards
<Anton{Politoed}>
remember niwa awards
<GBAToad>
favourite dead ip
<Lakituthequick>
niwa awards i dont remover
<Anton{Politoed}>
M4 Favorite Mario Kart Course (Bowser's Castle (Mario Kart 64), Rainbow Road (Mario Kart 7), Wario Colosseum, Waluigi Pinball, Airship Fortress, Mushroom Gorge, Coconut Mall, Maple Treeway, Electrodrome, N64 Rainbow Road (Mario Kart 8), Mount Wario, Mute City, Animal Crossing, Baby Park, Big Blue)
<turb>
i remember niwa awards and now i want to forget them again
<Gamefreak75>
its time for pikmin awards
<turb>
this looks good
<Gamefreak75>
tbh
<Lakituthequick>
*remember
<turb>
i hate redoing this award and they didnt add any new conventional courses to deluxe
<Lakituthequick>
add all rainbow roads (dont)
<Lord_Bowser>
it's good
<GBAToad>
we dont need to consider mk8 deluxe for this award because no new racing tracks
<dia>
set
<GBAToad>
but the next one......
<Anton{Politoed}>
we spent like a full 35 minutes doing nothing to this award when we originally did it
<Anton{Politoed}>
lots of votes to do nothing
<shoutmon>
there was a mario fps on the snes
<dia>
i vote to hold a vote to keep
<dia>
and do nothing
<Anton{Politoed}>
when's mario moba
<GBAToad>
mario moab
<shoutmon>
soon i hope
<dia>
is there not a mario moba
<Lakituthequick>
gonna metion one thing though
<Lakituthequick>
sorry anton
<Lord_Bowser>
when's mario metroidvania
<Lakituthequick>
identifiers
<Gamefreak75>
wheres my mario srpg
<turb>
they probably literally would have enough enemies for a mario moba
<dia>
is there a mario shootemup
<Anton{Politoed}>
they should be shortened
<Lakituthequick>
like battle course (M22) uses console abbriviations
<Lakituthequick>
this use game names
<turb>
isnt battle course actually
<GBAToad>
mario sorority girls beach volleyball
<turb>
the one going out of line
<turb>
i just slapped fucking whatever on the doc
<Anton{Politoed}>
yeah it'd be M22 we need to fix
<turb>
oops
<dia>
ok
<Lakituthequick>
then i'll recite what i just said when we get to m22
<GBAToad>
is there a reason that the mario kart track award and battle course award are so distant
<Lord_Bowser>
mario dating sim
<Anton{Politoed}>
but I think we gotta change things like Mario Kart 7 to MK7
<turb>
we were replacing an award straight up
<turb>
so it took the old numbering
<Anton{Politoed}>
and yeah M22 was the vacancy
<turb>
also im fine with shortening them
<shoutmon>
i think it makes more sense to use console abbreviations since thats how nintendo does it
<dia>
yeah thats fine, as long as its understandable
<shoutmon>
and how the wiki does it tb
<dia>
its just all mario karts right
<shoutmon>
h
<turb>
im fine with eithr
<turb>
just as long as the nominees are understandable
<Anton{Politoed}>
really???
<shoutmon>
yes
<Anton{Politoed}>
it seems like an extra step, though
<GBAToad>
its just me being stupid but it does kinda look out of place in comparison to other awards which are grouped together pretty well so would it be sin to shift it up and push the other awards down a number
<Anton{Politoed}>
referencing the console and then having to remember which game that was
<dia>
whats the console abbreviations?
<Anton{Politoed}>
tbh the other awards being grouped together well is a fluke
<turb>
yeah like
<turb>
theyre all randomized at presentation time anyway
<Meta_Knight>
NES SNES N64 GCN WII DS GB GBA GBC as far as im aware dia
<turb>
so in the end its only really an aesthetic thing on the full list
<Anton{Politoed}>
like F2-5 or whatever it is all being related is because we nuked a bunch of awards and were just simply able to
<dia>
oh, so
<dia>
well, as long as the nominees are clear
<dia>
are there a lot of mario karts on the same consoles?
<GBAToad>
usually its one per console
<Lakituthequick>
excluding vc, no
<Nyrie>
there are none on the same consoles
<Anton{Politoed}>
this really only affects 3 nominees, actually
<Anton{Politoed}>
going from game to console
<Anton{Politoed}>
so if that's the standard with courses then I guess I'll do that really quick
<dia>
should we add the game abbreviation for the 3 that have an issue?
<Anton{Politoed}>
mk7 was just 3ds right
<shoutmon>
rainbow road (n64) (mario kart 64)
<Anton{Politoed}>
or do I have to say 2ds
<shoutmon>
thats the format we should use
<Nyrie>
the only one i could see being confusing is n64 rainbow road
<shoutmon>
its the nly way bea clear
<Nyrie>
because it would be
<Anton{Politoed}>
that looks awful
<shoutmon>
2ds and 3ds are the same thing
<Nyrie>
N64 Rainbow Road (Wii U)
<GBAToad>
yeah that
<Lakituthequick>
3ds came earlier so use that
<shoutmon>
no i was bing sarcastic...
<Anton{Politoed}>
anyways I did it
<Anton{Politoed}>
is that it with M4
<dia>
im fine
<GBAToad>
y
<Lord_Bowser>
y
<Meta_Knight>
y
<dia>
y
<Anton{Politoed}>
M5 Favorite DK Game (Donkey Kong Country, Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest, Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble!, Donkey Kong 64, Diddy Kong Racing, Donkey Kong Country Returns/Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D, Donkey Kong Jr. Math, Donkey Kong (Arcade), Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, Donkey Kong Jungle Beat,
<shoutmon>
y
<Anton{Politoed}>
Donkey Kong '94 (Game Boy))
<turb>
y
<turb>
f
<Meta_Knight>
y
<turb>
y
<shoutmon>
also my connection is cutting out so i might leave randomly
<shoutmon>
sorry
<Lakituthequick>
well
<Anton{Politoed}>
i'm marking you as unexcused absent
<Lakituthequick>
dk94
<shoutmon>
is the titl "donkey king '94 (game body)" like tht on purpose
<Lakituthequick>
actually just called Donkey Kong
<Lakituthequick>
but on game boy
<Anton{Politoed}>
that's just how it has been since forever and no one's told me to change it
<Meta_Knight>
but its more extensive than the original donkey kong
<Lakituthequick>
well i think we are discussing this every year so
<Anton{Politoed}>
until right now
<shoutmon>
just as long as we're dong it on purpose i dont care
<Anton{Politoed}>
there's Donkey Kong (Arcade)
<Anton{Politoed}>
couldn't we lob off the '94
<Anton{Politoed}>
Donkey Kong (Game Boy)
<Lakituthequick>
exactly
<turb>
sure
<Meta_Knight>
i would be against that
<shoutmon>
thats th offical title
<Meta_Knight>
dk94 is very different from it but _
<turb>
i mean yeah
<Lord_Bowser>
i wouldn't mind it
<turb>
94 isnt int the title is it
<Meta_Knight>
its not that big a deal
<Anton{Politoed}>
are there two donkey kongs for game boy
<Anton{Politoed}>
or just arcade/game boy
<Lord_Bowser>
i mean mk that is the official title
<turb>
i mean there is donkey kong (arcade) on the award already mk
<Lord_Bowser>
also no that's it
<turb>
its pretty clear which is which
<Meta_Knight>
fair enough
<shoutmon>
should it be uh
<shoutmon>
arcade/nes?
<Lord_Bowser>
i was about to mention that 22 gdi
<shoutmon>
i think thee was something weird about that
<shoutmon>
like one leve was missing in one vern
<shoutmon>
or somehting
<Lord_Bowser>
oh lemme double check
<Meta_Knight>
there was a nes cart thats both donkey kong and donkey kong jr on it
<Meta_Knight>
idk if there was one with just donkey kong
<Anton{Politoed}>
"Donkey Kong has kidnapped the beautiful Lady (Pauline in the NES conversion) to a dangerous construction site."
<Anton{Politoed}>
god damn SJWs giving the damsels actual names
<Anton{Politoed}>
humanizing them
<Lakituthequick>
"version of the game was also created later for the Nintendo Entertainment System, Nintendo's first home console, under Arcade Classics Series."
<Lakituthequick>
so 'A version'
<Lakituthequick>
not a straight port
<Lord_Bowser>
oh yeah
<Lord_Bowser>
the nes version doesn't have 50m
<Lakituthequick>
thats jus what im reading in the intro though so
<Anton{Politoed}>
I don't want there to be 7 Donkey Kongs on this award just because they gave Pauline a name in one version
<shoutmon>
i dont think theres a difference in infomal usage
<Lakituthequick>
anton the awards is litterally 'Favorite DK Game' so
<Meta_Knight>
anton put in donkey kong (featured in donkey kong 64 as that one bs minigame) (donkey kong 64) /s
<turb>
i feel like when people are talking about original donkey kong
<shoutmon>
no tis because of waht lb id
<dia>
is it essentially the same game tho
<turb>
theyre referring either to arcade or nes
<turb>
regardless of uh
<turb>
level differences
<shoutmon>
also im just sayinthink we should specifathat nominee covers both sions
<shoutmon>
not that i think we should add another nominee
<Anton{Politoed}>
21:08 Lakituthequick anton the awards is litterally 'Favorite DK Game' so
<shoutmon>
god dammit
<shoutmon>
its really hard to ty with ilag
<Anton{Politoed}>
no my point is I don't want there to be a new nominee for every variant of the single game "Donkey Kong"
<dia>
is the current nominees confusing to voters?
<Lakituthequick>
so change the name from Donkey Kong (arcade) to Donkey Kong
<turb>
why...
<turb>
why not just change it to arcade/nes
<Anton{Politoed}>
I'm not removing arcade from it
<turb>
those are the two most relevant versions
<Anton{Politoed}>
yeah what turb said
<dia>
im fine with turbs idea
<Lord_Bowser>
yeah there's no reason to remove arcade
<dia>
the main goal is to make it clear to voters yeah
<Lord_Bowser>
it would make it more confusion
<Lord_Bowser>
confusing*
<dia>
its essentially the same thing
<Anton{Politoed}>
ok i did that
<Anton{Politoed}>
unless everyone hates it a lot
<Lord_Bowser>
i don't
<shoutmon>
i like it a lot
<turb>
i like it
<GBAToad>
I HATE IT ANTON CHANGE IT BACK CHANGE IT BACK
<GBAToad>
no
<GBAToad>
i like it
<Lord_Bowser>
♡ You like this
<Anton{Politoed}>
M6 Favorite Wario Game (Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3, Wario Land 3, Wario Land 4, WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Party Game$!, WarioWare: Twisted!, WarioWare: Touched!, WarioWare: Smooth Moves, Wario: Master of Disguise, Wario Land: Shake It!, WarioWare: D.I.Y., Wario World, Game & Wario, Wario Land II)
<turb>
y
<Meta_Knight>
keep
<Lakituthequick>
Inc.: Mega Party Game$! is a nice game
<Lakituthequick>
(ok)
<Anton{Politoed}>
yeah that's a thing
<Lakituthequick>
(there is a literal comma in that name, lol)
<Lord_Bowser>
the placement of wl2 bothers me but that's just petty probably so y
<GBAToad>
"look we can use punctuation"
<GBAToad>
warioware devs
<turb>
oh yeah to also be the guy who doesn't like being anal about semantics but is being anal about semantics right now
<turb>
is wario land ii definitely stylized as that
<turb>
instead of wario land 2
<Lord_Bowser>
lemme see
<turb>
i feel like this was probably discussed but i forgot
<Anton{Politoed}>
tbf in the polls these are all going to be on individual lines so that comma break in mega party games isn't going to be an issue
<Meta_Knight>
it might be a thing ilke with metroid II
<Anton{Politoed}>
unless turb and I derp super hard and register them separately as we type them in
<Lord_Bowser>
wiki confirms it is, turb
<turb>
gr8
<Meta_Knight>
where super metroid and fusion both to refer to themself as 3 and 4
<Meta_Knight>
but 2 is always written as II
<GBAToad>
SMA2 for biggest missed opportunity ples
<turb>
also no ill hopefully remember to not put it on as inc.: mega party games
<shoutmon>
and zelda
<Lord_Bowser>
gba i think that was sma4 :p
<Meta_Knight>
yeah
<turb>
sma4 was a national treasure
<shoutmon>
it must be a nintendo thing
<Lakituthequick>
i actually went and figured out where the f11 issue came from two weeks ago
<Lakituthequick>
may come back to it then
<Meta_Knight>
22 they'd probably call you either II II or XXII
<Anton{Politoed}>
whose fault was it
<Anton{Politoed}>
was it 22's
<Anton{Politoed}>
can I fire him
<Lakituthequick>
yes
<Anton{Politoed}>
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<Anton{Politoed}>
M7 Favorite Yoshi Game (Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, Yoshi's Island DS, Tetris Attack, Yoshi's Story, Yoshi Touch & Go, Yoshi's Cookie, Yoshi, Yoshi Topsy-Turvy, Yoshi's New Island, Yoshi's Woolly World/Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World)
<Lakituthequick>
(no joke though it happened when anton was away)
<Meta_Knight>
this is fine
<shoutmon>
youre just mad because i banned you
<turb>
y
<GBAToad>
man i hate how yoshis woolly world is formatted but it cant be helped
<GBAToad>
nintendo make your ports less wordy next time
<Lord_Bowser>
y
<GBAToad>
y
<Lakituthequick>
tbf the port isnt even that wordy
<Lakituthequick>
pasting them in the same award is
<shoutmon>
yeah just calle it 'poochy' nex time
<Lakituthequick>
list is ok
<shoutmon>
the other words dont matter
<Anton{Politoed}>
M8 Favorite Art Style (Retro style sprites, Yoshi's Island style, Donkey Kong Country style, Main series 3D style, Paper Mario style, Mario & Luigi style, Yoshi's Story style, Yoshi's Woolly World style, Wario Land: Shake It! style, Super Mario RPG style, Super Mario Strikers style)
<turb>
y
<Meta_Knight>
yup
<Lakituthequick>
style, style, style and style
<GBAToad>
looks good m8
<Lakituthequick>
strikes me but it works
<Lord_Bowser>
y
<Anton{Politoed}>
I'd say they wouldn't be necessary but
<Anton{Politoed}>
it puts emphasis on how that game's style is
<Anton{Politoed}>
instead of the game title
<Anton{Politoed}>
plus there's things like Paper Mario where it covers the whole series and not just that game
<turb>
^
<Lakituthequick>
wouldn't 'paper mario series' work in that case
<Lakituthequick>
anyway i wont suggest changing every name on this award unless it hits a nerve for everyone
<Anton{Politoed}>
technically yes, but not really any different than it already does
<Anton{Politoed}>
I'll keep an eye on it, though, if it looks like it generates confusion for the voters
<shoutmon>
change style to aesthetic
<Meta_Knight>
that would probably kill turb
<Anton{Politoed}>
M9 Favorite DLC (The Legend of Zelda × Mario Kart 8, Animal Crossing × Mario Kart 8, Mercedes-Benz × Mario Kart 8, New Super Luigi U, Peach's Castle stage (SSB4), Super Mario Maker stage (SSB4), Super Mario Mash-Up Pack (Minecraft: Wii U Edition))
<Lakituthequick>
[insert weird unicode a la gbatoad here]
<turb>
dddddddd
<Lakituthequick>
ho boy this one
<Lakituthequick>
it actally is good now i think
<turb>
this one is probably fine
<Anton{Politoed}>
we decided case-by-case for this one
<Anton{Politoed}>
since wholesale applications for merging/splitting would be gr8 for one, but awful for another
<shoutmon>
i thought we just deleted the merged options since they were unloved anyway
<Anton{Politoed}>
that too
<Anton{Politoed}>
so I guess move on since we blew up our only concerns
<Meta_Knight>
support
<Anton{Politoed}>
M10 Favorite Partner Developer (AlphaDream (Mario & Luigi series), Intelligent Systems (Paper Mario series), Hudson Soft (Mario Party 1-8, Mario Party DS), Camelot Software Planning (Mario Tennis series, Mario Golf series), Next Level Games (Mario Strikers series, Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon), Bandai Namco Entertainment (Mario Baseball series),
<Anton{Politoed}>
Good-Feel (Yoshi's Woolly World), Square Enix (Super Mario RPG, Mario Sports Mix), Sega (Mario & Sonic series), Retro Studios (Mario Kart 7, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze), Rare Ltd. (Donkey Kong Country series, Donkey Kong Land series), 1-UP Studio (Super Mario 3D Land, Super Mario 3D World), Nd Cube (Mario Party 9-10, Mario Party: Star Rush),
<Anton{Politoed}>
Arika (Dr. Mario series))
<Lakituthequick>
this award is so big it needs three messages to post
<GBAToad>
hal is kill
<turb>
add jupiter
<turb>
:^)
<turb>
no but just move on i think
<GBAToad>
add konami
<Lord_Bowser>
add yami's studio
<Anton{Politoed}>
M11 Favorite Major Character (Mario, Luigi, Princess Peach, Yoshi, Wario, Donkey Kong, Bowser, Rosalina, Bowser Jr., Toad)
<Lakituthequick>
add cw games
<Lakituthequick>
(dont)
<Anton{Politoed}>
when's deep lore backstory for kamek
<Meta_Knight>
move on
<Anton{Politoed}>
to push him to M11
<Meta_Knight>
in kamek's new spinoff game
<shoutmon>
poochy
<GBAToad>
kameks storybook
<Meta_Knight>
it will be a game like sims or something
<Meta_Knight>
where you raise a kid
<Meta_Knight>
but its bowser
<GBAToad>
then baby kamek appears in mk9
<GBAToad>
and ruins the whole thing
<Anton{Politoed}>
cute and cute
<shoutmon>
i thought you were going to say, where you torture unsuspecting people with divine power
<Lord_Bowser>
lmao
<shoutmon>
thats what i think of when i think of the sims
<Meta_Knight>
kamek doing that would also appease anton
<Anton{Politoed}>
M12 Favorite Supporting Character (Princess Daisy, Waluigi, Toadsworth, Diddy Kong, Professor E. Gadd, Toadette, Captain Toad, Birdo, Kamek, Poochy)
<Lakituthequick>
i have notes on this one
<Lakituthequick>
E. => Elvin?
<GBAToad>
yep its good
<shoutmon>
no
<GBAToad>
also no
<Meta_Knight>
no
<Lord_Bowser>
no
<shoutmon>
hes never ever called that
<GBAToad>
no
<turb>
no
<Lakituthequick>
its the name for the wiki page so i thought it note it
<Anton{Politoed}>
Charles Entertainment Cheese
<shoutmon>
on the other hand, we could rename him dr. o. m. g.
<shoutmon>
is it really...
<GBAToad>
with bibbangs
<Meta_Knight>
that would be like if suddenly we changed daisy to Princess D.
<shoutmon>
thats bad
<shoutmon>
that shouldnt be like that im going to go complain to the wikki staff
i think that it will be more valid after odyssey comes out
<GBAToad>
can we hold off until mk odyssey
<Lakituthequick>
yeah
<Lord_Bowser>
yeah save it for next year
<Meta_Knight>
then there will actually be real humans
<GBAToad>
i mean technically theyre still relevant
<Lakituthequick>
unless mario and peach count id say leave it for now
<Anton{Politoed}>
"A lot of the main characters (Mario, Luigi, Wario, etc.) are human, and quite a few appearing in the dic cartoons, so I'm not sure whether it'd be worth adding humans in as a favourite species"
<shoutmon>
looking at the thing
<Lord_Bowser>
add miis /s
<shoutmon>
bowsers did better
<shoutmon>
we should add bowsers if anything
<turb>
i mean
GBAToad strangles LB
<turb>
im not opposed to adding bowsers i guess
<Lakituthequick>
would that be like
<Lakituthequick>
'koopalings'
<turb>
it would just have to be Bowser's species i guess
<Anton{Politoed}>
I am because we don't have a word for it and it's also not a thing
<Anton{Politoed}>
Humans are a thing, though
<GBAToad>
Bowser (species)
<shoutmon>
i mean theres several major characters of this species
<turb>
i mean idk like i don't feel opposed to it since there's major characters of the species yeah
<shoutmon>
at least 9
<Lakituthequick>
was human every offically stated by intendo though
<turb>
but it feels off because nintendo never fucking
<turb>
gave a word for them
<GBAToad>
wait for odyssey is my biggest take
<turb>
so they could just fall under fucking koopas for all we know
<Meta_Knight>
nintendo refers to yoshis as yoshis, toads as toads, etc
<turb>
i'm fine with humans too i guess but yeah i'd prefer waiting for odyssey
<Meta_Knight>
humas are a thing but its not like they say mario is of the humans species
<GBAToad>
maybe nintendo will give them a weird species name like Donkians
<Lakituthequick>
bowser is really koopa in japanese
<turb>
Mario (species)
<Lakituthequick>
then again koopa is nokonoko so
<Anton{Politoed}>
why are we waiting on odyssey
<turb>
because humans will be more relevant then i assume
<Lakituthequick>
because new donk city
<Meta_Knight>
because there's real humans as opposed to cartoony ones idk
<turb>
i mean, i guess we can just add them in now if we want
<Anton{Politoed}>
does odyssey suddenly canonize mario, peach, etc. as humans
<turb>
because they do exist in golf
<turb>
and mario, peach, etc. are all humans
<Meta_Knight>
i guess thats true
<Anton{Politoed}>
the wiki literally has a page for Humans
<GBAToad>
golf is a good point as well
<turb>
even if nintendo doesn't want to acknowledge that in any way for some reason
<Anton{Politoed}>
including Mario etc.
<Lakituthequick>
to be fair mario and peach have vastly different aestics from donk humans
<Anton{Politoed}>
I mean I'm gonna be 50000% sure to actively avoid voting for Humans
<Meta_Knight>
yeah i think its fair to add it
<Lord_Bowser>
if humans gets in top 3 i will die inside
<Anton{Politoed}>
but I think it's a solid nominee option
<Lord_Bowser>
but i guess it is a valid option
<turb>
yeah i guess
<GBAToad>
i mean as people are bringing things up ive kinda backed down from my knee jerk reaction
<turb>
it's still valid
<Meta_Knight>
yeah
<Meta_Knight>
per gbatoad
<turb>
i feel ____ about it but that's a personal issue
<Lakituthequick>
technically valid but it feels wrong somewhy
<shoutmon>
can we just change the name of the award to 'favorite mario species' so real-world species are excluded lol
<turb>
i'm just gonna write in duplighosts
<GBAToad>
do we have a definition to only include enemy species
<GBAToad>
or like what 22 said
<Lakituthequick>
or do what 22 says
<Anton{Politoed}>
Related Species Cave People Mii
<Anton{Politoed}>
lol
<Lakituthequick>
add Mii
<GBAToad>
what
<dia>
ah
<GBAToad>
miis are not really mario though
<Anton{Politoed}>
also I'm not going to change the award title and definition just to avoid humans
<Lakituthequick>
are humans ?
<Anton{Politoed}>
we can just decide to not add them
<Lakituthequick>
yes please
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: Add "Humans" to M14? (y/n/a)
<Meta_Knight>
y
<Anton{Politoed}>
almost typed vore
<GBAToad>
y
<Lakituthequick>
n
<Lord_Bowser>
a
<shoutmon>
n
<Meta_Knight>
as much as it _ me i think its fair to add it
<turb>
a
<Meta_Knight>
best case scenario it does horribly and we remove it
<Lord_Bowser>
2-2-2
<GBAToad>
per mk
<Anton{Politoed}>
too close to call so they won't be added
<GBAToad>
lets add inklings :^)
<Anton{Politoed}>
but I'll just earmark it as a thing to check out how it performs
<turb>
i mean idk ill switch from a to y
<turb>
so 3-2-1
<dia>
a
<turb>
but that's still close af
<GBAToad>
i still want nintendo to call them donkians
<shoutmon>
im only willing to add humans if we add bowsers
<dia>
fine y
<Anton{Politoed}>
I hope they're like dream people in inception
<Lakituthequick>
add Donkians to the dictionary
<Anton{Politoed}>
where they have no sentience beyond becoming angry at outsiders
<GBAToad>
and skipping rope
<shoutmon>
it doesnt make any sense to not add it, and then add something else that did worse
<dia>
i mean sure
<Anton{Politoed}>
that's not exactly a standard we have set for adding write-ins
<Anton{Politoed}>
it's just how we usually go
<Lakituthequick>
i say \|/ continue |>
<Anton{Politoed}>
M15 Hardest Boss (Shadow Queen, Bonetail, Cackletta's Soul, Culex, Elder Princess Shroob, Bowser (Paper Mario), Bowser X (Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story), Smithy, The Master (Final Form), Dreamy Bowser, Phantamanta, Boolossus, Kamek & Paper Kamek)
<shoutmon>
you say continue while dancing?
<Lakituthequick>
why did we go for & again
<shoutmon>
a ehow
<Lakituthequick>
i tried ans art for the tbc sign in reverse but e
<shoutmon>
god dammit
<Lakituthequick>
*ansi
<shoutmon>
is & bad somehow
<Anton{Politoed}>
well in mario & luigi that's because that's the name of the game
<Anton{Politoed}>
for Kamek & Paper Kamek, idk
<dia>
isnt & part of the normal title
<Meta_Knight>
i'd leave it
<Lakituthequick>
well i have more &-points on my list
<Meta_Knight>
less characters
<Lakituthequick>
but wiki pages dont use that for combi-characters
<Anton{Politoed}>
why should we change it
<Lakituthequick>
Ashley and Red, not Ashley & Red
<turb>
i mean i just
<GBAToad>
:ashley:
<turb>
i dont understand why this is a huge issue as long as people understand what they're voting for
<shoutmon>
ashley and red share a wiki page?
<dia>
i think its fine
<Lakituthequick>
props preference but i like to follow the way wiki names things
<GBAToad>
exactly
<GBAToad>
per turb
<Lakituthequick>
yeah ashley and red share a page
<Lakituthequick>
https://www.mariowiki.com/Ashley_and_Red
<dia>
doesnt the wiki use
<dia>
&
<shoutmon>
weird
<Lakituthequick>
it doesnit dia
<Anton{Politoed}>
the wiki gives nothing for "kamek and/& paper kamek"
<shoutmon>
youd think with the wiki's stated policy of having a separate page for everything
<Meta_Knight>
probalby because links cant handle that
<shoutmon>
like every mission in smg
<Meta_Knight>
becasue even in the shroom links ' gets turned nto %27 sometimes
<Lakituthequick>
links can very well handle that
<Meta_Knight>
but this wont be alink
<Meta_Knight>
it should be fine with just &
<shoutmon>
they would have separate pages for ashley and red
<shoutmon>
oh well
<Anton{Politoed}>
but with Ashley and Red I feel obligated to do that for kamek so
<Anton{Politoed}>
I'll just do that
<dia>
ok
<Meta_Knight>
okay
<Lakituthequick>
i have about 6 &'s on my list to come
<Anton{Politoed}>
I just removed a few so lol
<Anton{Politoed}>
but
<Anton{Politoed}>
M16 Favorite Item (Tanooki Suit/Super Leaf, Super Star/Starman, Fire Flower, Mega Mushroom, Metal Cap, Wing Cap, Bullet Bill, Propeller Mushroom, Penguin Suit, Cloud Flower, Cape Feather, Gold Flower, Cat Suit/Super Bell, Double Cherry, Super Horn, Mystery Mushroom)
<GBAToad>
skip
<Meta_Knight>
this seems okay
<turb>
skip
<Lord_Bowser>
!skip
<Lakituthequick>
i have a point on this one too
<shoutmon>
should it specify that its the smm mystery mushroom
<Lakituthequick>
copy past:
<Lakituthequick>
Order of slashed nominees, first the item and then the form you take on, or vice versa?
<Lakituthequick>
Super Star currently has it different from the other two.
<Lakituthequick>
Or just take the form away.
<shoutmon>
instead of the smb3 one
<turb>
oh was there a mystery mushroom in smb3
<GBAToad>
this is news to me
<Lord_Bowser>
isn't that the reverse mushroom
<shoutmon>
yeah idk if thats the official name
<shoutmon>
was it
<shoutmon>
ok
<Lord_Bowser>
if you mean the battle mode one then yes iirc
<GBAToad>
smb3 or mp3
<shoutmon>
smb3
<Anton{Politoed}>
I'll flip super leaf
<Anton{Politoed}>
since this is the item award, we'll set that as the first
<shoutmon>
afaik starman super star are BOTH names for the item
<shoutmon>
the form is 'invincible [character]'
<Lord_Bowser>
yeah they are
<Lord_Bowser>
starman is more often used though
<Lakituthequick>
i see it as
<Lakituthequick>
super star makes you a starman
<Lakituthequick>
but it doesnt make a lot of sense indeed
<shoutmon>
ok but youre wrong
<shoutmon>
the item is called starman
<Lakituthequick>
correct
<shoutmon>
in the official material
<Anton{Politoed}>
with this, though
<Lord_Bowser>
oh wait the wiki calls them super star
<Lakituthequick>
but in this form it looks like that
<Anton{Politoed}>
does that mean we should just lob off "tanooki suit"
<shoutmon>
but i think its only old material
<Lakituthequick>
it would make it consistent anton
<shoutmon>
i would do it the other way
<shoutmon>
remove the leaf
<shoutmon>
because: the suit itself was an item in mario 3
<GBAToad>
Yeah but the leaf was also an item in 3
<Lakituthequick>
but the leaf is the item in this context?
<GBAToad>
And sm3dl
<shoutmon>
thats my point
<Lakituthequick>
the suit is the result
<shoutmon>
the leaf has inconsistent properties between the two games
<shoutmon>
if you just include the leaf
<shoutmon>
people wont know what version of ittheyre voting for
<Lakituthequick>
oh yeah
<Lakituthequick>
one gives you a suit
<turb>
oh thats fair
<shoutmon>
the suit was only an item once
<shoutmon>
so its clearer
<Lakituthequick>
the other just funny ears
<Lakituthequick>
and a tail
<turb>
the suit is usually what people think of anyway
<GBAToad>
yeah
<Lakituthequick>
but dont they do the exact same thing?
<shoutmon>
no
<shoutmon>
god its confusing
<Lord_Bowser>
no the suit in smb3 ddoes the statue thing
<Lord_Bowser>
does*
<shoutmon>
the SUIT in smb3 is like the STONE LEAF in sm3dl
<turb>
the leaf in smb3 just gives you flight and ears
<Anton{Politoed}>
delete nintendo
<turb>
iirc
<Lakituthequick>
gdi nintendo get your consistency together
<shoutmon>
the LEAF in smb3 is like the ORGANIC LEAF in smdl
<Meta_Knight>
i support deleting nintendo
<Lakituthequick>
> organic leaf
<shoutmon>
its not actually called that
<Lord_Bowser>
free range leaf
<shoutmon>
but if i just said 'leaf' it would be confusing
<shoutmon>
the leaf thats not made of stone and isnt white
<Lakituthequick>
organic makes the other sound like plactic i mean
<shoutmon>
its not
<shoutmon>
its stone
<shoutmon>
thats the point
<Lakituthequick>
even worse
<Lord_Bowser>
but stone is natural
<shoutmon>
but its not organic
<Anton{Politoed}>
so from what I'm personally pulling from this is
<GBAToad>
awards cancelled over a leaf
<shoutmon>
??
<Anton{Politoed}>
turning this one nominee into like 5 because nintendo swapped definitions every game
<shoutmon>
i still say we should just remove the leaf and only include the suit
<shoutmon>
the suit is cooler
<shoutmon>
it lets you turn to stone and be a furry
<Lord_Bowser>
the suit is furry bait
<Lakituthequick>
i'm almost rofl
<turb>
id say the suit is more iconic anyway
<shoutmon>
the leaf just lets you fly and be a catgirl
<Lakituthequick>
>catgirl
<Lakituthequick>
like
<Lakituthequick>
stick to walls?
<Anton{Politoed}>
do we want Super Leaf to be its own separate ominee
<Anton{Politoed}>
n
<shoutmon>
n
<GBAToad>
ñ
<Lakituthequick>
i honestly
<Anton{Politoed}>
that n was because of a typo
<Lakituthequick>
dont know anymore
<Meta_Knight>
a
<Anton{Politoed}>
but
<Anton{Politoed}>
we could say "Super Leaf (3D games)"
<Anton{Politoed}>
or something
<Lakituthequick>
wiki has a nice infobox summary
<shoutmon>
theres like 3 of those though
<Lakituthequick>
Effect on Player:
<Lakituthequick>
Turns Mario / Luigi into Raccoon Mario / Fox Luigi (Super Mario Bros. 3, New Super Mario Bros. 2, Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U, and Super Mario Maker), Tanooki Mario / Kitsune Luigi (Super Mario 3D Land, Super Mario 3D World) or gives karts a tail (Mario Kart 7).
<shoutmon>
the leaf, the stone leaf, and the white leaf
<Lakituthequick>
(this is Super Leaf)
<dia>
ñ
<Anton{Politoed}>
(((((we'll finish this decision then end the meeting))))))))))
<meowth>
oh
<meowth>
what are we doing right now
<meowth>
im reading
<Lakituthequick>
super leaf (3d) would work
<Anton{Politoed}>
if we're to hold to the wiki, "Super Leaf" on its own could just be a nominee and nintendo swapping the definitions is just tough luck
<GBAToad>
exactly
<shoutmon>
i find that weird
<shoutmon>
its the effecdt that people are likely to care about
<Anton{Politoed}>
but I think separating it to "Tanooki Suit" and "Super Leaf (3D games)" is the most fair and recognizable
<shoutmon>
not the actual item
<Anton{Politoed}>
yeah
<Lakituthequick>
so
<GBAToad>
i support the separation
<Lakituthequick>
change all of the nominees again?
<Anton{Politoed}>
not all, just those
<Lakituthequick>
to be the result
<dia>
seems fair
<Anton{Politoed}>
no
<Anton{Politoed}>
because not all have results that can be easily phrased like this does
<Anton{Politoed}>
just because one item is a clusterfuck doesn't mean we should dismantle the rest of the award
<meowth>
i don't really have an opinion on this
<shoutmon>
the other two are unambiguous anyway
<dia>
im fine with an exception on a nominee by nominee basis
<shoutmon>
starman and super star are the same thing all the time
<Anton{Politoed}>
well let's vote on this
<shoutmon>
as are cat suit and super bell or wahtever
<dia>
rather than trying to fit all of the nominees into the same hole
<Anton{Politoed}>
Vote: separate "Super Leaf/Tanooki Suit" to two separate nominees "Tanooki Suit" and "Super Leaf (3D games)"? (y/n/a)
<GBAToad>
y
<Meta_Knight>
y
<shoutmon>
a
<Lakituthequick>
y
<meowth>
a
<dia>
y
<Lord_Bowser>
a
<turb>
hi i've been ignoring this because idk what the fuck is up with nintendo's definitions and they scare me
<meowth>
4-0-3
<turb>
but y i guess
<GBAToad>
and can we also vote on dropping cat suit since its not an actual item unlike the tanooki suit
<meowth>
5-0-3
Toadbert has joined #mwikiawards
<GBAToad>
or can we just drop it entirely
<GBAToad>
without a vote
<Anton{Politoed}>
sure
<meowth>
nintendo is cancelled
<Lakituthequick>
well super bell is actually listed so
<Anton{Politoed}>
are there any other concerns with M16?
<Lakituthequick>
i'd say drop the suit part
<Anton{Politoed}>
I've erased cat suit
<GBAToad>
thats what i said and anton has done
<GBAToad>
yay
<Lakituthequick>
same with starman?
<shoutmon>
sstarman is a pretty outdated name
<shoutmon>
i dont think we need it
<Anton{Politoed}>
starman is the name of the item but _
<Lakituthequick>
like
<Lakituthequick>
20 years ago
<Anton{Politoed}>
literally everyone knows what super star is though
<dia>
yeah i dont know what star man is
<Anton{Politoed}>
if some nerds write in starman then next year we'll reconsider
<GBAToad>
so yeah drop starman tbhimo
<shoutmon>
yeah starman is the name of the itme from hundreds ofyears ago
<shoutmon>
i dont think nintendo uses it at all anymore
<GBAToad>
final starman
<Anton{Politoed}>
ok gr8 we did it
<Lord_Bowser>
ghost of starman
<GBAToad>
add david bowie to favourite item
<Anton{Politoed}>
next meeting we will pick up where we left off, resuming with M17