we're getting rid of Favorite 'Shroom Core Staff for this community event one, name tbd
<@Anton{Politoed}>
leaning more on Favorite Community Event (year)
<Pitohui>
Yeah, "Favorite Community Event (year)" sounds the best for this one, to me
<Lakituthequick>
per
<@Anton{Politoed}>
the numbering of "2020-2021" is different than how C5 does it, with just "2020"
<@Anton{Politoed}>
do you think it would be better to change C5 also to 2020-2021
<Pitohui>
That'd probably be best, consistency and all
<@turb>
i would like that
<Lakituthequick>
yes
<@_2257>
lets instead just move new years to august
<Pitohui>
I've been trying to think of other nominees to add to TPG's but I think he has a pretty solid list there
<tpggaming4>
good
<tpggaming4>
i had an idea
<tpggaming4>
i actually had 2
<@Anton{Politoed}>
in the last iteration of this award we included the awards ceremony
<tpggaming4>
maybe 3 because im thinking of ideas as im writing them down
<Smasher>
o, jrbl
<Smasher>
wtf
<Smasher>
im back
<Smasher>
and also drunk, apparently
<Pitohui>
Oh, did we? Then I think that'd be a fair inclusion here
<tpggaming4>
idea 1 is to put up a thread in the roleplay board to ask them for input/nominees/votes on the roleplay events
<@Anton{Politoed}>
it also included april fool's day
<tpggaming4>
because i just picked the two with the biggest post counts
<tpggaming4>
idea 2 and 3 were putting awards and april fools day
<tpggaming4>
so consider me double ninjad
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<@turb>
hate to be that guy but is it ok if i uhh
<Pitohui>
I'm pretty sure those two [i]are[/i] the most popular roleplays, fwiw, TPG
<@turb>
post all the relevnt stuff for c5 and then fuck off into the ether
<@Anton{Politoed}>
sure
<@turb>
feeling like actual death
<Lakituthequick>
i have never heard of world of the spirits
<@Anton{Politoed}>
rip
<Lakituthequick>
nicely contained where it belongs i guess
<tpggaming4>
world of the spirits is certainly not as widespread as car wash but its one of the Big ones
<Pitohui>
The only other roleplay I've seen like out of that Board is The Altonia Files
<tpggaming4>
oh i can just ask blof
<Smasher>
i only really know about car wash
<tpggaming4>
why didnt i think of that before...
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
oh shit
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
hi
<@Anton{Politoed}>
so basically for C7 I'm just gonna accept the list as-is that was posted on the boards
<@Anton{Politoed}>
and then chuck in whatever other ideas we're shitting out right now
<Pitohui>
Sounds like a plan to me
<@_2257>
oh are there multiple big forum rps now
<@Anton{Politoed}>
the beauty of community awards is the dossier is there to explain everything
<@_2257>
the culture is evolving
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
i think so?
<Pitohui>
There's, like, three big ones, 22
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
car wash is the only one i really know
<Pitohui>
And lots of smaller ones that fade in and out
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
longform...
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
:pensive:
<Pitohui>
RIP Longform
<Lakituthequick>
the actual quality one
<Pitohui>
I still say we can bring that back in a stronger form someday I just need more time to commit to it
<@Anton{Politoed}>
did turb died
<Pitohui>
[s]so clearly next year it happens[/s]
<@turb>
nah i'm just uh
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
same pito
<@turb>
compiling some stuff
<@Anton{Politoed}>
oh ok
<@turb>
i want to get links since there were comments on what people to axe for 18
<@turb>
since i was last awake and alive
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<NinjaSquid>
Hello!
<Lakituthequick>
ng'yes
<NinjaSquid>
Sorry for being a little bit late
<@Anton{Politoed}>
so for like
<@Anton{Politoed}>
"World of the Spirits (Roleplay)"
<tpggaming4>
blof says car wash, world of spirits, and also the altonia files
<@Anton{Politoed}>
are we including the word roleplay in it
<Lakituthequick>
* insert joke about removing NS from the committee in the last 10 minutes here *
<@Anton{Politoed}>
I feel like it's relatively important
<Pitohui>
Yeah, I think you should, Anton
<tpggaming4>
maybe tales of megaverse and triple strike academy
<@Anton{Politoed}>
indicates what it even is
<tpggaming4>
you gotta have the word roleplay in there yeah
<Lakituthequick>
yeah, include roleplay in there
<tpggaming4>
theres no other indication of what the context is, which the other nominees provide
<tpggaming4>
apart from shroomfest but like
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
i don't wanna pile too much roleplay imo
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
btu 3 makes sense to me
<Pitohui>
I think the big three is good on roleplays
<tpggaming4>
shroomfest is Shroomfest theres no word you could append to explain it
<@Anton{Politoed}>
yeah i'm fine with 3
<tpggaming4>
3 is my personal limit
<Pitohui>
The others come and go
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
cool cool
<@Anton{Politoed}>
any more and it kinda dilutes it
<Goombuigi>
3 sounds good to me
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
i'd say the same for mafia
<@Anton{Politoed}>
unless there's more that are just really strong contenders
<Pitohui>
Thankfully there's only been three new mafias
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
if we had another mafia on the list i'd be pushing to trim
<tpggaming4>
nah blof gave out 3 contenders then 2 more maybes, so thats simple as
<tpggaming4>
car wash, altonia files, world of the spirits
<Smasher>
im fine with three as well ftr
<Gabumon>
I guess I'm just gonna put this out there and see what other people think
<tpggaming4>
(roleplay), (roleplay), (roleplay)
<Smasher>
ill be more responsive when i can im getting called for something
<Gabumon>
considering how we historically had a really low voter turnout for the community awards
<Gabumon>
how would people feel about collapsing these options into "forum roleplays" and "mafia" so there are less options for the low vote pool to get spread (and diluted) over
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
that would leave us with 5 nominees which i think is below the minimum
<@turb>
https://pastebin.com/7VdFZ6ih C5 Wiki Contributor Award Information
<tpggaming4>
im not sure about that
<@_2257>
theres a minimum?"
<Pitohui>
I get the idea there, but these have all been pretty different and it feels weird to collapse them
<@turb>
fsr i also thought that 5 was the minimum and not like 7 or 8 but i am likely thinking of something else
<@turb>
we barely ever hit minimum
<@turb>
just maximum
<Gabumon>
I guess like
<tpggaming4>
i think the individual games and RPs stand out on their own enough to be worth differentiating
<Gabumon>
can someone put into words what the difference between these rp threads is?
<Pitohui>
Like, all the mafia games have had the same core gameplay but they've been iterating and had pretty distinct feels, lots of set dressing and unique character roleplays
<tpggaming4>
i understand collapsing shroomfest into one nominee because each round is functionally the same with different captains and themes
<@Anton{Politoed}>
I hope someone can because the dossier requires that to be put into words
<tpggaming4>
the difference is in setting characters players themes and storylines, from what i've skimmed
<Gabumon>
I feel like the difference between each shroomfest is as pronounced as the difference between the rp threads I have seen, so I'm unsure if I really agree to that
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
we could go the opposite direction and split the shroomfests?
<tpggaming4>
i think you'd have to talk to blof to get a more valid view on them
<Gabumon>
that would dilute the votes even further
<@Anton{Politoed}>
that would further dilute
<Gabumon>
like, consider
<Gabumon>
the vote turnout we get for these is in the low two digit range
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
i don't mean this in a snipe/barb way but
<Pitohui>
For the roleplay threads? Honestly? I can't really myself. They look relatively the same from the outside. But the people participating in them seem to actually think of them as pretty distinct, from the way they talk about them.
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
i don't get why this one specific community award has "diluting the votes" as a concern when most community awards already hit the nomination cap regardless
<Pitohui>
Oh lots of things were said but my screen didn't scroll
<Gabumon>
because I see an opportunity for a downsizing here
<tpggaming4>
agreed with perch and pitohui
<Gabumon>
if I see a similar opportunity in other awards, I will point it out
<Pitohui>
Like, when it comes to writing the Dossier entries for the roleplays, I'm absolutely going to be talking to BLOF, as someone who's actually in the threads and can describe the differences
<@Anton{Politoed}>
I think the nominees are fine as is, because
<NinjaSquid>
I'm going to agree with Perch here
<@Anton{Politoed}>
roleplays are something that's blossomed on the forum in the last year, and mafia games are coming back, and I feel it's good to highlights which ones are/were successful
<@Anton{Politoed}>
regardless of whether it splits votes
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
speaking of i just realized
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
if we're counting location battle
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
we could also add the photo contest for bowser's fury
<Lakituthequick>
do note
<NinjaSquid>
yeah true
<@_2257>
personally i feel like they'll end up more highlighted if they get 6 votes collectively and place well, rather than 2 each and place low
<Pitohui>
Hey, Anton, heads up, I think it should be April Fool's Day 2021
<Lakituthequick>
this is a community event award
<@Anton{Politoed}>
oh yeah
<Lakituthequick>
not a 'shroom event award per se
<Gabumon>
that's what I'm trying to say, 2257
<Lakituthequick>
i'm not against adding 'shroom events of course
<@_2257>
ot that that's guaranteed or anything, but i dont think lumping them together inherantly devalues them
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
the thing is, roleplay collectively would be like... highlighting the 50 failed rps as well as the 5 successful ones
<@Anton{Politoed}>
this is admittedly a difficult subject to judge
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
mafia i could see more of a case for since it's JUST the three and they were all pretty solid
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
like, as someone who's played in the KGs, i wouldn't want to lump them together because there are some i would want to highlight and some i would not
<Gabumon>
well, if we're not collapsing them, then for the sake of consistency I feel like each shroomfest is also distinct enough to get an individual nomination
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
sure
<tpggaming4>
i'm fine with that
<Pitohui>
So we'd have Heroes vs. Villains 'Shroomfest, Chickens vs Pigs 'Shroomfest, Day vs Night 'Shroomfest, and Warm Beverages vs Cool Beverages 'Shroomfest
<Pitohui>
Porentially cutting one of those if we wanted to keep to three for this one like the other groupings
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<NinjaSquid>
Sunlight vs Moonlight*
<Pitohui>
Ah, yes, thanks NS
<NinjaSquid>
np
<@_2257>
sunshine vs moonshine
<Pitohui>
(incidentally that's the one I'd consider cutting if we went with three)
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<Gabumon>
you'd probably be in the best position to determine which of these is the most suitable for being cut
<meowth>
ok hi
<meowth>
idk if i have much to add here but
<meowth>
hi!!
<Pitohui>
That's felt like it was the weakest of the four so far, accounting for the first one still feeling things out
<NinjaSquid>
per Pito
<tpggaming4>
mmm
<@Anton{Politoed}>
sun/moon is good because https://www.marioboards.com/threads/43240/page-2#post-2230186 look how cute i am
<Gabumon>
sounds good to me
<NinjaSquid>
Chicken vs Pigs and Warm Beverages vs Cool Beverages were solid ones, and the first one was a good start for the concept.
<meowth>
i think im ok with separating these
<tpggaming4>
iirc the sun moon one had a lower turnout than the other three because winter rush kept everyone busy
<Pitohui>
Yeah, that's my recollection, too, TPG
<NinjaSquid>
yeah
<@Anton{Politoed}>
C7 Favorite Community Event 2020 - 2021 (Chickens vs Pigs 'Shroomfest, Warm Beverages vs Cool Beverages 'Shroomfest, Heroes vs. Villains 'Shroomfest, Ultimate Location Battle, Rogueport Mafia, Sheep Mafia, Toad Brigade Mafia, Awards Killing Game 4, Mushroom City Car Wash (Roleplay), World of the Spirits (Roleplay),
<@Anton{Politoed}>
The Altonia Files: The Second Chapter (Roleplay), Awards Ceremony 2020, April Fool’s Day 2021, Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury Photo Contest)
<NinjaSquid>
Chicken/Pigs and Warm/Cold both had a higher turnout
<@Anton{Politoed}>
current listing
<Pitohui>
(plus in retrospect I feel like the more abstract themes are harder for people to work with, which is why we're going to tend towards more concrete but broad ones in the latter half of this year)
<Pitohui>
Looks good with that listing, Anton
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
i like this
<Gabumon>
yeah, this seems good
<NinjaSquid>
looks good!
<tpggaming4>
big thumbs up
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<Lakituthequick>
i'd make roleplay lowercase
<Lakituthequick>
and suggest adding ": Despair Incorporated" to akg4, but that's up for discussuion
<tpggaming4>
despair inc was more of a subtitle
<Lakituthequick>
if so then remove the second chapter thing from altonia
<tpggaming4>
yes
<Goombuigi>
Shouldn't NS' mafia be Rogues in Rogueport Mafia rather than Rogueport Mafia?
<Lakituthequick>
yes
<NinjaSquid>
oh yeah, goombuigi's right
<@Anton{Politoed}>
ok is C7 complete
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
i think so
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
also ltq: i know it's not shroom event award but...
<Pitohui>
Looks like it to me
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
we don't HAVE a shroom event award
<meowth>
looks fine to me
<@Anton{Politoed}>
C5 time
<Lakituthequick>
14 moninees
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
so it seems reasonable to put shroom awards here
<@Anton{Politoed}>
https://pastebin.com/7VdFZ6ih thx turb
<@Anton{Politoed}>
everyone let's read this now
<Lakituthequick>
yes blocky, it's just a note to make it overwhelmingly 'shroom
<Lakituthequick>
*to NOT make
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
too late!
<tpggaming4>
i think its fine that a lot of the nominees are shroomy
<tpggaming4>
its a big project that a lot of the communitys creative output is focused on
<@Anton{Politoed}>
basically wiki staff has been working hard to figure out C5 Wiki Contributor Award
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
yeah i'd be against WT
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
man did so much work he got promoted
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
that's contributiong
<@Anton{Politoed}>
they got to 20(?) and i told them chop chop chop
<@Anton{Politoed}>
and now here we are
<Pitohui>
Yeah, WT feels like a solid keep - of the four proposed cuts, Koopa con Carne has been getting more active on the Boards, too
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
i don't see any reason to not rubberstamp the removal they gave us, too
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
to get down to 19
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
and then decide the last
<NinjaSquid>
yeah, i don't want to cut WT
<@Anton{Politoed}>
a lot of the legwork on choosing who to cut has been done
<@Anton{Politoed}>
I'm just gonna default to their end decision yeah
<Pitohui>
"i don't see any reason to not rubberstamp the removal they gave us, too" - per Perch on this
<@Anton{Politoed}>
leaving us to decide who between Infinite8, Koopa Con Carne, LuigiMaster123, Scrooge200 to cut
<@Anton{Politoed}>
"If using activity alone as a metric, Infinite8 would be removed - recommend looking at the dossier more closely to make an informed decision"
<Gabumon>
what if the stamp is a potato
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
then i guess we potatostamp instead
<meowth>
not sure if i can really say much here since im a non entity in t
<meowth>
he wiki
<meowth>
but i do think wt is a solid keep with how involved he is with everything now
<@Anton{Politoed}>
I have little basis to no use activity alone as a metric
<@Anton{Politoed}>
so unless someone presents me with critical information, a critical project or something that infinite8 worked on that volleys them over the rest, then that's how we will go
<@Anton{Politoed}>
to not*
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
i got nothin'
<Pitohui>
He had a few projects on last year's Dossier but they don't stand out over the comparable entries the others have
After that, I have a few older sections to recommend for removal to clear the way for newer sections
<Pitohui>
Remove: Dear Anton (Anton), Monthly Report (Ninja Squid), Meta Knight’s Dream Land Journal (Meta Knight), Selling Out (Raregold), Hot Pot Reviews (Zange)
<Pitohui>
That should bring us down to 14, if I can count
<@Anton{Politoed}>
seems valid
<meowth>
reasonable
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
i support
<Pitohui>
Here's my recommended additions (will grab links for them - one minute)
<Pitohui>
Add: Roserade’s Quarantine Reviews (Roserade), Site Seeing (Lakituthequick), Super Mario Maker 2 Showcase (Goombuigi), Parallax (Baby Luigi and Bazooka Mario) (18)
https://www.mariowiki.com/The_%27Shroom:Issue_169/Palette_Swap#Site_Seeing - Site Seeing
<Pitohui>
https://www.mariowiki.com/The_%27Shroom:Issue_169/Palette_Swap#Super_Mario_Maker_Showcase - Super Mario Maker Showcase
<Pitohui>
Oops, need to drop the "2" in that nominee name
<Pitohui>
I'll throw those out and if there's objections to any of them, folks can voice them, I suppose
<tpggaming4>
i support parallax
<NinjaSquid>
yeah, i'd agree with that list. Solid sections
<tpggaming4>
that one stands out with the formatting
<Lakituthequick>
ye
<Lakituthequick>
look gary, it's me
<@Anton{Politoed}>
I have no other comments about C8
<@Anton{Politoed}>
just a general battle in my mind of "i wish there were less nominees" vs "wow!!!! there's so many nominees!! we're kicking ass!"
<Pitohui>
Mushroom Kingdom Smackdown (Waluigi Time), Monthly Inquisition (Goombuigi), Kingdom Battle Ramble (ZelenPixel), So You Want to Conquer Japan (Shoey) , and 'ShroomFM (MrConcreteDonkey) were other considerations, for full disclosure, in case someone really wants to argue for one of those instead of the four I picked from my list
<Pitohui>
Oh, wait
<Pitohui>
Didn't mean to copy 'Shroom FM, it's already on there
<Lakituthequick>
idk, maybe we can replace shroom fm for shroom fm
<meowth>
sounds like a plan
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<Lakituthequick>
no further comments here
<meowth>
nothing to add beyond the proposed nominees looking solid to me
<meowth>
sorry
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
i got nothing
<Smasher>
shut up
<@Anton{Politoed}>
C9 Favorite Written 'Shroom Section of the Past Year (Anniversary Announcements (Lakituthequick), Mach Speed Mayhem (Superchao), Anton's Half-Baked Reviews (Anton), 'Shroom Recap (Hooded Pitohui), Hot Pot Reviews (Zange), Poll Committee Discussion (10th Poll Committee), Interview (Superchao), Meta Knight's Dream Land Journal (Meta Knight),
<@Anton{Politoed}>
Where in the Marioverse is Carmen Sandiego? (FunkyK38), Mario's Boombox (Hooded Pitohui), Drawn and Pressed (winstein), World of Plight (Magolor04726), Smashing Reviews (Smasher), TV Tomorrow (Quizmelon), News Flush (Lord Bowser), SGoW's Declassified Mario Kart Wii Survival Guide (Shy Guy on Wheels))
<Pitohui>
We have a thread for this one!
<Pitohui>
https://www.marioboards.com/threads/43843/
<Pitohui>
This has left us with a 17 solid nominees and one more slot to give to one of four sections
So those are our 17, then we have World of Plight (Magolor04726), Dear Bowser (Doomhiker), What's in a Campaign (Chester Alan Arthur), and Super Mario Maker Showcase (Goombuigi) to consider for #18
https://www.mariowiki.com/The_%27Shroom:Issue_169/Palette_Swap#World_of_Plight - World of Plight
<Pitohui>
https://www.mariowiki.com/The_%27Shroom:Issue_169/Palette_Swap#Super_Mario_Maker_Showcase - Super Mario Maker Showcase
<Pitohui>
https://www.mariowiki.com/The_%27Shroom:Issue_170/Pipe_Plaza#What's_in_a_Campaign? - What's in a Campaign
<NinjaSquid>
man, the 'shroom this year has great sections isn't it? It's a bit hard to decide lol
<Goombuigi>
From these four, I'd choose World of Plight
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
same
<tpggaming4>
my vote would be for SMM showcase
<Lakituthequick>
working on a diff for administratrivia
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<Pitohui>
(of course I say a number 18 but we also don't [i]have[/i] to fill to the cap)
<@Anton{Politoed}>
I think that might be better
<Pitohui>
Thinking on it, with the votes being lower here, I'm inclined to agree
<Lakituthequick>
per
<Lakituthequick>
also changes:
<Lakituthequick>
Added: Doomed Reviews (Doomhiker), Kingdom Battle Ramble (ZelenPixel), Monthly Inquisition (Goombuigi), Mushroom Kingdom Smackdown (Waluigi Time), Mushroom Tribune (Shoey and Hooded Pitohui), Parallax (Baby Luigi and LeftyGreenMario), Rose's Quarantine Reviews (Roserade), Site Seeing (Lakituthequick), So You Want to Conquer Japan? (Shoey), The Odyssey of a Squid (Ninja Squid)
<Lakituthequick>
Removed: 'Shroom Recap (Hooded Pitohui), Hot Pot Reviews (Zange), Interview (Superchao), Meta Knight's Dream Land Journal (Meta Knight), News Flush (Lord Bowser), SGoW's Declassified Mario Kart Wii Survival Guide (Shy Guy on Wheels), Smashing Reviews (Smasher), Where in the Marioverse is Carmen Sandiego? (FunkyK38), World of Plight (Magolor04726)
C10 Outstanding Community Achievement Award (Porplemontage, 2257, Walkazo, Turboo, Anton, Superchao, Smasher, Yoshi876, Tucayo, MrConcreteDonkey, Lord Bowser, GBAToad, Lakituthequick, Mr. Edo, Glowsquid, Meta Knight, Ninja Squid, The Pyro Guy, Roserade, Hooded Pitohui, Doomhiker)
<Smasher>
i cant believe i died
<Smasher>
(for the record im ok with those changes)
<Lakituthequick>
i have notes here
<Lakituthequick>
we have 21 nominees atm
<Gabumon>
I haven't done anything outstanding lately so you can remove me
<Pitohui>
Okay, so this one has 21 and it's hard to pick people to cut here considering the nature of this Award, but, first cut I can suggest here is Tucayo. It's a longer-term award, true, but I think it should still prioritize folks still around in the community
<Pitohui>
And Tucky has more or less gone away completely
<NinjaSquid>
Walkazo...
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
yeah, tucky doesn't exist
<Lakituthequick>
i've also been thinking about her yeah
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
and edo has volunteered himself so that gets us down to 19
<tpggaming4>
whats the definition?
<@Anton{Politoed}>
a thorny subject, but I think we discussed last year about it being time to remove her
<@Anton{Politoed}>
I will consult logs
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
yeah, it's been five years, and i think it's time
<Lakituthequick>
C10 - Outstanding Community Achievement Award - This award acknowledges the hard work and dedication of various members of the community. They all are unique in their experiences and what theyve done, having volunteered their time in all parts of the community in a number of ways. It should be noted that many nominees have expansive lists forged over the years, and while this may
<Lakituthequick>
be impressive, please consider recent achievements and their greater relative impact today. This is not an exhaustive list of every position and achievement, just the most notable and relevant.
<Pitohui>
"This award acknowledges the hard work and dedication of various members of the community. They all are unique in their experiences and what they’ve done, having volunteered their time in all parts of the community in a number of ways. It should be noted that many nominees have expansive lists forged over the years, and while this may be
<Pitohui>
impressive, please consider recent achievements and their greater relative impact today. This is not an exhaustive list of every position and achievement, just the most notable and relevant."
<tpggaming4>
awesome
<Smasher>
walkazo is a tough one but yeah i think it's ok at this point
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
i'm not trying to say this in a callous way but like... idk, there's a reason that when someone tried to dwell hard on it this year we kicked his fucking ass
<Pitohui>
Oh this reminds me that I forgot to do the whole "updating the community awards definitions to match the dossier better" thing this week
<Pitohui>
This Week (TM)
<Smasher>
im fine with the tucky cut too ftr
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
so i'm in favor of removing Walkazo, Tucayo, and Edo
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
for the various reasons
<Lakituthequick>
this year will be the fifth year since her passing so
<Lakituthequick>
i also feel its time
<Pitohui>
And, yeah, Walkazo was another potential cut I was going to bring up once we had gone through the others, mostly for the reasons cited
<@Anton{Politoed}>
logs don't seem to have it
<Goombuigi>
I'm also in favor of the cuts
<NinjaSquid>
pretty much per Perch for the removals
<@Anton{Politoed}>
maybe it was post-meeting discussion
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
now the question is, is there anyone who we think is significant and important to add with the requirement of a replacement
<Smasher>
im fine with these as the cuts
<tpggaming4>
yeah im alright with this per the discussion and definition
<tpggaming4>
oh
<Pitohui>
I did not have any notes on additions this year, fwiw
<tpggaming4>
zange and funky? since theyre being cut from old C7
<NinjaSquid>
We are at 17, right?
<Pitohui>
18, NS
<Lakituthequick>
21-3 =18
<NinjaSquid>
oh okay
<Smasher>
yeah eighteen
<tpggaming4>
those two have been active shroom team leaders, and funky is coming up on 100 issues served and zange is also active within the shroom and awards presentations
<Pitohui>
RE: TPG I'm not sure how to say this more tactfully, but, has Funky done anything of note outside of directing PS? Because I don't know if just that quite reaches the scope of this Award
<tpggaming4>
it depends if that's enough to dethrone other noms
<Pitohui>
Zange has Awards presentations to her name, too
<NinjaSquid>
what kind of stuff would be consider for a good nomination?
<@_2257>
you can delete me if you want
<NinjaSquid>
like, hosting a 'shroom event be consider worthwhile?
<@Anton{Politoed}>
is that a "please remove me" or "if needed, remove me"
<tpggaming4>
i dont think funky has anything beyond PS director, no
<@_2257>
more the latter
<NinjaSquid>
considered*
<@Anton{Politoed}>
ok
<@_2257>
i dont care too much either way, but
<@_2257>
if there's someone who you think is deserving and you dont know who to cut, im volunteering
<Pitohui>
I don't know about one single event, NS, unless it were pretty significant, but a 'Shroom event and maybe organizing and hosting some other things on top of that
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<Pitohui>
If you were perhaps thinking Goombuigi
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
yeah, i think funky is very good at her one thing but not much more
<Smasher>
same as 22 if needed - im fine with staying on the award but if needed im a valid cut since this wasnt my most active year
<NinjaSquid>
yeah, it was that Pitohui
<@Anton{Politoed}>
I'm eyeballing lb and mk to remove unless I can be convinced otherwise
<@Anton{Politoed}>
perhaps more
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<Pitohui>
I'd be willing to consider Goombuigi because he [i]has[/i] been getting pretty active and involved in a lot of areas, taking initiatives and hosting things so doing more than passively joining thing
<Pitohui>
MK and LB were potential removals in my notes, fwiw, Anton
<Gabumon>
I mean, logically we should probably go through each of these nominees and remove them unless we can come up with something outstanding that's associated with them
<NinjaSquid>
was MK active is some sectors of the community in the last year?
<Gabumon>
idk if we have the time for that though
<tpggaming4>
lb's been hosting the photo contests and doing presentations, but nothing in a staff capacity
<tpggaming4>
id be willing to go through w that edo
<@Anton{Politoed}>
also for clarification this isn't necessarily a staff award, just a like
<@Anton{Politoed}>
"wowo they sure did a Thing(s) that helped support our community or stand out!"
<@Anton{Politoed}>
and sure, we can do that, it may also support dossier work as well
<@Anton{Politoed}>
all that's left is C10 and then full review
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
not really ns
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
in fact outside of the occasional conversation he's been totally detached this cycle
<@Anton{Politoed}>
so given that C10 is likely the most significant award of this bunch, I would like to do that
<Gabumon>
all right
<@Anton{Politoed}>
question is, do it now, or at the end of the review which gives us a week to mull it over
also for log readers and note's sake, nothing here is personal
<tpggaming4>
lets goo
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
nah it's good
<NinjaSquid>
thanks Perch! In that case, if MK was a potential removal, than I'd be okay with it.
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
i freely admit i've been pretty low-key this cycle so if you guys think i should be cut i'll eat it
<@Anton{Politoed}>
(Porplemontage, 2257, Turboo, Anton, Superchao, Smasher, Yoshi876, MrConcreteDonkey, Lord Bowser, GBAToad, Lakituthequick, Glowsquid, Meta Knight, Ninja Squid, The Pyro Guy, Roserade, Hooded Pitohui, Doomhiker)
<@Anton{Politoed}>
so, in this order we shall go
<Gabumon>
porplemontage hosts the site, pays the bills, and ensures our continued existence, so he kinda qualifies by default
<@Anton{Politoed}>
gr8
<tpggaming4>
big up steve
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
honestly, unless porple ever steps down, he just has an eternal slot on this award imo
<Pitohui>
Yeah, Porple is easy to put in
<Pitohui>
It's nice he's quick to address things that come up, too
<Pitohui>
We're lucky to have an accessible overlord
<Lakituthequick>
he's maybe not very present in the community but he definitely listens and helps out when asked
<@Anton{Politoed}>
2257
<Smasher>
porple doesnt seem like he should ever be removed at this point
<Smasher>
unles he ever just leaves
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
when i overthrow him in my continued pursuit of power, maybe
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
anyhow, yeah, nothing's really coming to mind for 22
<Pitohui>
22 has a pretty lengthy list of accomplishments on the dossier, but, with respect, I can't think of anything recent he's done of note
<@Anton{Politoed}>
22 provides indispensable support throughout the community, being consistently reliable in checking accuracy, chat staff decisions, helping peeps in chat with specific technical problems of all kinds, as well as a go-to guy for tech support
<Lakituthequick>
thinking about it, i more or less defacto took over his 'shroom job, haven't i
<Pitohui>
More or less, LTQ, it seems
<Gabumon>
he does a lot of fantastic things, but most of them are probably not related to the larger community
<Pitohui>
Now I don't know all he does for Awards as Awards Staff, though I'm sure it's important
<Pitohui>
Oh, dang, and, yeah, he's also really active as a Chat Op
<@_2257>
actually my job with the shroom was more or less just a courtesy title with no attached responsibilities
<@_2257>
you can have it if you want though
<@_2257>
i always thought it was a little silly
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
i think the most relevance it ever got was when raregold tried to strongarm you into voting
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
for sotm i mean
<@_2257>
yeah, that was weird
<@Anton{Politoed}>
i mean
<@_2257>
but that was to be expected i guess
<@Anton{Politoed}>
i've convinced myself 22 should stay
<Lakituthequick>
we can consider the manager roles and stuff i guess, i wouldn't mind taking the 'title' in that sense
<Pitohui>
Not to stray to far from Awards, but if you want to pass it along to LTQ, I'm fine with that, 22
<Smasher>
im ok with 22 staying based on antons comments
<@_2257>
sure
<Lakituthequick>
still, active staff roles in chat and also the help in translating Japanese things as they come up seem a great reason to keep you here
<NinjaSquid>
I support keeping 22
<Goombuigi>
I support keeping 22 also
<Pitohui>
Yeah, keeping 22 works
<Power_Flotzo>
Keep
<Lakituthequick>
Minecraft command magician for games
<@turb>
i agree with keeping him
<tpggaming4>
k
<@Anton{Politoed}>
Turboo
<@turb>
i was also going to mention he still chimes in to wiki staff decisions depsite not really being under any reason to do that for like, 10 years, so
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
sure
<Pitohui>
Easy keep - Awards Sub-Director, Wiki Staff, generally active role in a lot of areas
<@turb>
im neutral on being kept or not
<@Anton{Politoed}>
realistically, same things I said for 22 except less emphasis on helping translate japanese
<tpggaming4>
fail awards host
<tpggaming4>
keep
<Smasher>
keep
<Goombuigi>
Keep
<NinjaSquid>
keep Turboo
<Power_Flotzo>
Keep
<@turb>
i've downsized my presence for varying reasons i think but i'm also physically here as a warm body every day
<Gabumon>
turb is one of the two people who goes through all the write-ins every year
<@turb>
there's that
<@turb>
true
<Gabumon>
that's a default keep
<@turb>
going to shit myself doing it this year
<@_2257>
keep
<@Anton{Politoed}>
Anton
<Smasher>
who
<Pitohui>
Keep
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
duh
<Lakituthequick>
:birdo:
<Gabumon>
same as turb
<Smasher>
(keep)
<Goombuigi>
Keep
<@turb>
keep
<@_2257>
keep
<tpggaming4>
didnt he retire in 2010?
<tpggaming4>
(keep
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
no that was his Dark user
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
Notna
<@turb>
what world line did you shift to
<Pitohui>
[s]No TPG, he was replaced by Dr. Toadley[/s]
<@turb>
fear
<NinjaSquid>
keep
<Smasher>
horror
<@Anton{Politoed}>
Superchao
<Lakituthequick>
with more words though, been the awards guy for years and years and i can't imagine without anton
<@turb>
sure
<Goombuigi>
Keep
<@turb>
runs the forums basically
<@turb>
good enough
<Pitohui>
I'm willing to argue that as the forum mod people tend to go to first and someone still heavily involved in The 'Shroom, he's a keeper
<Smasher>
keep, almost like the head of the forum at this point
<Lakituthequick>
Blocky is a good guy
<@_2257>
keep
<Lakituthequick>
shadow director etc
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
it's too bad we don't have that old in charge of the forum title-
<tpggaming4>
basically king
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
(but thanks!)
<NinjaSquid>
strong keep for perch
<Power_Flotzo>
Keep 100%
<@Anton{Politoed}>
Smasher
<Lakituthequick>
can always ask things and advice
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
neutral, she's a semi-active mod but that's about it
<Lakituthequick>
(that last thing was for blocky still)
<@turb>
neutral
<Pitohui>
Per Perch
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
the moralintern rises!
<Pitohui>
Did step up as emergency Sub-Director, is a mod, is the Awards tallier, but I'm overall neutral
<@turb>
i guess neutral isn't very helpful with actually making an argument to nuke her or keep her but i can't really think of anything especially compelling in either direction
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
yeah like
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
smasher does stuff and i can lean on her but there's nothing super strong to point at
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
i can be swayed
<Smasher>
i do whatevers needed and am slowly picking up my activity back up but i have also been pretty lowkey this last year so im fine with either direction
<tpggaming4>
willing to sacrifice to make room for new nominees or to trim down in general
<tpggaming4>
like edo said gotta find ways to cut things down when you can due to low votes
<@Anton{Politoed}>
Yoshi876
<Lakituthequick>
i'm neutral, tipping towards removal
<@_2257>
i havent seen him around at all this year
<Lakituthequick>
uuuh
<@_2257>
mayube i missed it?
<@turb>
is he even still around
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
then it sounds like smasher is a removal
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
also kinda vaguely sorta but
<Smasher>
im dead
<NinjaSquid>
aside from spotlight, i haven't seen him around often
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
very much nothing strong
<@Anton{Politoed}>
ftr i'm not gonna make any solids cuts as of yet, but I'm definitely marking options down
<Lakituthequick>
Yoshi did Sptlight but that is mostly Alex nowadays
<@turb>
i'd be fine with axing him
<Pitohui>
876 writes a lot of sections but it's less than the days he wrote half the paper
<tpggaming4>
he liked some posts on the forum
<Smasher>
i dont really see y876 much anymore
<NinjaSquid>
yeah pretty much what LTQ said
<Pitohui>
876 is still around but you basically have to talk to him first
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
yeah i'm okay with a 876 cut
<@turb>
i wouldn't push for his cut that hard as he's still somewhat present compared to some other options
<@turb>
but i'm leaning cut
<tpggaming4>
i appreciate that he does write approximately a million shroom sections
<@Anton{Politoed}>
I think yoshi876 is an example of someone we can keep on the award as a role model
<Goombuigi>
I'm torn on 876
<@Anton{Politoed}>
I'll still mark as an option but _
<Gabumon>
I think like, if we can't come up with a strong compelling reason for keeping, that kind of defaults to removal
<Gabumon>
that's in regards to smasher btw, I was just late
<@turb>
yeah i can agree with that
<@turb>
re: smasher and y876 alike
<@turb>
the role model point is valid as he was carrying a shitload of the paper on his back in the past
<@turb>
and it is the lifetime award i think
<@turb>
well maybe not anymore but
<Gabumon>
also, I think general inactivity also kind of leans towards removal
<@turb>
that's how my brain still parses it
<@Anton{Politoed}>
MrConcreteDonkey
<Pitohui>
I'm leaning in support of keeping MCD
<Lakituthequick>
forum mod and did 100 fake news'es
<@turb>
good at emulating the garth marenghi's darkplace script but he's not really active here anymore so i'd be fine with cutting
<Lakituthequick>
chat admin too i think
<@turb>
like i could be swayed in either direction
<Pitohui>
His 100 fake news, forum mod, really big contributor to community events (ERNEST FINE)
<tpggaming4>
same boat as 876 imo but he's more engaged with the community in general
<@turb>
he's arguably more around than 876
<@turb>
yeah
<Lakituthequick>
per tpg
<NinjaSquid>
leaning keep
<meowth>
neutral
<Gabumon>
a question we have to ask is
<NinjaSquid>
mcd is a bit more active than 876
<Gabumon>
what has the person done recently
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
he's not a forum mod
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
anymore
<Gabumon>
and how is it outstanding
<Pitohui>
Former Forum Mod
<@turb>
yeah i think he hasnt had forum mod or wiki admin positions in a while
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
yeah but that's mypoint
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
this is meant to be a current award - that's why we cut walkazo
<Lakituthequick>
ah yeah
<Pitohui>
Reasonable
<@turb>
i can link you a backstory mcd wrote for his dnd character since it lives rent free in my head
<@turb>
that's about it
<@turb>
idk if he's done anything community related outside having like
<@turb>
a really good roleplay in the last awards kg
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
let's be real ernest fine's entire existence is an achievement award
<@turb>
recently i mean
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
,but in seriousness he's a good guy but everything he's actively DONE is like
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
outside of the cycle
<@turb>
yeah
<Pitohui>
MCD does do some really, really memorable work in community events like KGs
<Pitohui>
But I suppose that's not itself outstanding without more to support it
<@turb>
made me laugh 10/10
<Pitohui>
Which is the only reason we can't add Waluigi Time just for Shmaluigi...
<@Anton{Politoed}>
Lord Bowser
<Pitohui>
Remove
<Lakituthequick>
exists
<Gabumon>
he seems kind of retired at this point
<@_2257>
lb is basically gone
<Pitohui>
The only thing I can think of is the Photo Contest and that was one small-ish thing
<tpggaming4>
does photo contests and presentations
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
remove
<meowth>
remove
<Goombuigi>
Leaning towards removal
<@turb>
remove
<Power_Flotzo>
Remove
<tpggaming4>
which is a once a year thing so, remove
<Lakituthequick>
is to host kg with me if anything
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
lb has been wholly assimilated by nookazon
<Pitohui>
I think that'll come up next year, LTQ
<@Anton{Politoed}>
GBAToad
<NinjaSquid>
leaning cut for lb
<Pitohui>
Keep
<@turb>
keep
<Gabumon>
keep
<tpggaming4>
yeah i think akg5 misses the cycle for this year
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
keep
<Goombuigi>
Keep
<NinjaSquid>
keep GBA
<Gabumon>
hes doing a big tournament
<Power_Flotzo>
Keep
<meowth>
keep
<Pitohui>
AKG4 if nothing else is worth it
<@_2257>
gba is doing good stuff
<Pitohui>
And he has more to his name
<Lakituthequick>
yes gbatoad is a keeper
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
hosted the very impressive akg4, doing another tournament, generally active and helpful
<tpggaming4>
gba did so much work in akg4
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
and he's just good about pushing community things
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
he's earned it
<@turb>
yay scribble tournament
<tpggaming4>
im fighting for him staying
<@Anton{Politoed}>
Lakituthequick
<@turb>
:clinthype:
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
Everything
<@turb>
keep
<Pitohui>
Doodle, everyone, doodle
<Gabumon>
keep
<@_2257>
seems like a transparent keep
<meowth>
keep
<tpggaming4>
easy keep
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
ltq basicallyk eeps the shroom running
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
tech-side
<Pitohui>
Keep
<Pitohui>
LTQ is a godsend
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
and awards too
<Lakituthequick>
i do things i suppose
<Pitohui>
I want to make a statue of this man
<tpggaming4>
community without ltq :whatevs:
<Pitohui>
For all he does for me
<NinjaSquid>
strong keep LTQ
<@Anton{Politoed}>
Glowsquid
<Pitohui>
and the paper and the community
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
he's honestly the greatest redemption arc in communtiy history
<tpggaming4>
ez keep
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
ltq i mean
<Pitohui>
Glowsquid's a fine keep
<@turb>
he runs the twitter and is like the face of the bureaucrats so sure
<tpggaming4>
he's mr wiki or something
<Lakituthequick>
yeah glowsquid is also a keeper
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
yeah he's basically me but for the wiki instead of the forum
<Pitohui>
Important Wiki matters, most noted Bureacrat, Twitter man
<NinjaSquid>
keep
<@_2257>
yeah glowsquids a good one
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
like if you think "who runs the wiki" it's not porple
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
it's glowsquid
<meowth>
glowsquid is pretty much the first person i think of when i think of wiki staff
<meowth>
keep
<@Anton{Politoed}>
Meta Knight
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
remove
<Gabumon>
dealing with twitter on a regular basis is already enough on its own for keep
<Pitohui>
I'm leaning remove
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
he's barely been around at all
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
much less DONE anything
<@_2257>
havent seen him at all in like 2 years
<NinjaSquid>
cut
<Goombuigi>
Remove
<@turb>
remove
<tpggaming4>
he popped up in the last week to talk on discord a little
<tpggaming4>
thats not grounds for keeping though
<tpggaming4>
i just thought it was ince
<@_2257>
oh really
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
nonsense tpg
<tpggaming4>
nice
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
i'm reversing
<@Anton{Politoed}>
Ninja Squid
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
we're keeping him hell or high water!!
<@turb>
i think he pretty much admitted to us that he was just popping in for a second didn't he
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
ns is an actual keep
<@_2257>
i didnt think mk was here in any capacity
<Pitohui>
Keep
<@turb>
ns is active so keep
<meowth>
i saw him today but nothing really related to the community, remove
<Pitohui>
NS is absolutely great
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
he does a LOT for the shroom
<Pitohui>
Comes up with wonderful ideas
<meowth>
@ mk, keep for ns
<Pitohui>
Does a lot for the paper
<Pitohui>
Major pusher of the community
<tpggaming4>
gotta have that NS juice
<Lakituthequick>
I like trains
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
i think he's the only person who made the activities manager position feel actually relevant
<Goombuigi>
Keep
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
and he doesn't even have it
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
but still!!
<@Anton{Politoed}>
The Pyro Guy
<tpggaming4>
kill
<Lakituthequick>
yes
<Lakituthequick>
uh
<Pitohui>
Keep
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
yes
<Lakituthequick>
yes to keep
<NinjaSquid>
keep
<@turb>
keep
<meowth>
keep
<Gabumon>
keep
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
akg4
<Power_Flotzo>
Keep
<Goombuigi>
Keep
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
other community art
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
shroom art
<Lakituthequick>
gaming
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
etc
<Pitohui>
Per Perch
<@turb>
shaped my sense of humor
<@_2257>
yeah keep tpg
<@_2257>
unless he really wants to die
<tpggaming4>
responsible for steering the communitys greater sense of humour into the nearest shittiest valley
<@Anton{Politoed}>
Roserade
<@turb>
if tpg tries to get himself off the award i will petition that i also be removed
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
easy keep
<Pitohui>
Absolute keep
<@turb>
keep
<Goombuigi>
Keep
<meowth>
keep
<tpggaming4>
keep
<Pitohui>
I will fight for Rose in any capacity
<tpggaming4>
gotta have roserade
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
i can confirm rose is a wondeful successor to me as subdirector
<Pitohui>
(Not that I have to, it seems)
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
and he does a lot outside of that
<Lakituthequick>
pillar
<tpggaming4>
yeah hes like
<Lakituthequick>
Rose Garden etc.
<tpggaming4>
got that user comic
<NinjaSquid>
We better keep Rose
<@_2257>
rose has a user comic?
<tpggaming4>
yeah from like 4 years ago
<@_2257>
oh
<Pitohui>
Nah, it's a user fic now
<Pitohui>
He has one chapter so far
<@Anton{Politoed}>
Hooded Pitohui
<Gabumon>
for the sake of the logs, can we include reasons for keeping
<tpggaming4>
it was a cool comic but it only got to chapter 2
<Goombuigi>
Keep
<Gabumon>
otherwise it might look like nepotism
<meowth>
keep
<tpggaming4>
roserade is an extremely active staff member in the shroom and general pusher of community activity
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
yeah that's what i'm doing
<Pitohui>
Per TPG on Rose
<@turb>
keep
<@_2257>
pitohui has to go on for his shroom work right
<tpggaming4>
fun stuff, sub director, rose garden, shroomfests
<Lakituthequick>
i will kill whoever wants to remove hp
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
in this case, keep because he's a very active, engaging, and energetic shroom director
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
who has made the shroom a powerhouse again
<NinjaSquid>
Keep Pito, Keep the Birds!
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
AND he also ran the PC
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
and managed to keep it active all year!
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
which is NOT easy
<tpggaming4>
i personally accredit pitohui for 80% of the community's resurgence in activity
<@turb>
yeah i just want to say rose is keep because of his shroom work, community activity participation, etc., pitohui also does a ton of projects and often pushes for activity as well
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
i love pitohui
<meowth>
i think other people can explain more than i can why specific people are staying so
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
i will die for this man
<Pitohui>
I'm very flattered right now. I mean, Awwww
<@turb>
to think he was just the guy roserade invited.........
<@turb>
i mean
<tpggaming4>
i was a doomer before he became shroom guy
<Pitohui>
I adore this community so much
<@turb>
raregold
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
it's funny to me
<@turb>
mixed up my r's
<meowth>
rose and pito just seem obvious
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
he was just "raregold's friend?"
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
but now he's one of my best friends
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
i stole him...
<@Anton{Politoed}>
Doomhiker
<Gabumon>
that's grand theft bird
<@turb>
uhhh what does he do nowadays outside wiki staff stuff
<@turb>
not meant rudely i just forgot
<Pitohui>
I'll support Doomhiker for continued 'Shroom work, Wiki work
<Lakituthequick>
doomhiker mostly exists on the wiki
<tpggaming4>
fake news director
<@Anton{Politoed}>
I think the reasons listed in the dossier for doom have been maintained
<Lakituthequick>
also does fake news
<NinjaSquid>
fake news director yeah
<@Anton{Politoed}>
whenever a hot topic comes up in wombat I can rely on him to have commentary
<Pitohui>
And continues to speak firmly and clearly to community members when it comes to things
<@turb>
if he's consistent with the dossier, and i do see him around actively with him contributing to wiki stuff for sure, i'm fine with keeping him
<@turb>
yeah he always comments
<tpggaming4>
yeah he's been doing good work internally in the shroom staff too
<@turb>
i appreciate that
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
yeah, doomhiker's wiki stuff is pretty strong
<@turb>
good internal wiki staff work
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
and that's our motive for glowsquid too so
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
totally valid
<@Anton{Politoed}>
not that wombat discussions are public but _
<tpggaming4>
he went all in on kickstarting discussion on pipe plaza and stuff
<meowth>
i think doomhiker is a good community member
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
yeah he does a lot of spontaneous stuff and i think that alone is important
<NinjaSquid>
keep
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
like, the energy to just waltz right in and go "hey what if we changed this
<tpggaming4>
powerful
<Pitohui>
Per Perch and TPG
<meowth>
gonna vote keep
<@Anton{Politoed}>
potential removals from general consensus of this are:
<@Anton{Politoed}>
Smasher, Yoshi876, MrConcreteDonkey, Lord Bowser, Meta Knight
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
i agree with all of these
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
i think the only one i'd second guess miiight be smasher
<Lakituthequick>
of which Yoshi and MCD seem to have weaker removal points i feel
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
the other four are 100% cuts
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
mcd's problem is that this isn't lifetime achivement, honestly
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
if it was i would be dying on the hill to keep him
<meowth>
im gonna go ahead and take myself out of the running this year
<meowth>
id love to stay on
<Goombuigi>
I 100% agree with MK, LB, and MCD
<meowth>
but by my own admission i cant point to anything significant ive done in the last 12 months
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
alright, then smasher is decided for sure
<@_2257>
so if we cut them all, that would bring it to 13 right
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
b/c user wish override
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
yeah
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
since we already cut down to 18 before this
<meowth>
unless someone gives me a good reason i should stay for this year
<@_2257>
that time the other day when there was that really weird vote
<meowth>
true
<Pitohui>
I do think NS had a good suggestion in adding Goombuigi - highly involved, taking on active roles hosting events, running in the Director election with a strong platform, actively asks questions of existing staff in various areas to learn more to take up new positions
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
i'm sort of curious about what people would think of Waluigi Time for this award; i could see both "yes" and "not yet' arguments
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
so since we have space i want to pitch the idea and see how it lands
<Pitohui>
I'm kind of feeling... yes, honestly? Now that we have the space
<NinjaSquid>
WT is patroller and quite active in the community as well
<NinjaSquid>
i'd be leaning for yes in his case
<tpggaming4>
does he fit the same pretty stern criteria we've just removed a bunch of others for
<Pitohui>
Involved in basically everything now, actively shills for other people's events, works hard to get them noticed, pioneered a new interactive 'Shroom section that's distinct from MSM
<Goombuigi>
I agree with WT being on there
<tpggaming4>
im happy to have them both im just checking its consistent
<meowth>
i kind of like both the goomuigi and wt suggestions
<Gabumon>
that seems notable enough for me
<@_2257>
i think we've cut people mostly for being inactive
<@_2257>
i dont think it's bad if we let people who are active right now on
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
yeah a lot of our cuts are "they're around but they don't do anything" or "not around"
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
wt does a lot of pushing, promoting, and active support
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
and his wiki work was enough to get him promoted
<Pitohui>
Waluigi Time and Goombuigi definitely have my support
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
so i support him
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
and goombuigi, too
<@turb>
i am fine with having waluigi time on here
<Smasher>
yeah im being cut because i havent really been active up until the committee started and the others are similar
<NinjaSquid>
yeah I support adding Goombuigi and Waluigi Time as well
<@turb>
i would say he's pretty much a new face of the community who carved out a niche for himself pretty fast with regards to his wiki work and community involvement
<@turb>
goombuigi gets my vote of support for basically the same reasons
<Pitohui>
I'd also kind of consider Shoey, who's become Chief Shiller lately, picked up like, seven sections, pushing other people's stuff and jumping in to spur activity
<Gabumon>
I'm cutting myself (don't quote that out of context) for no recent notable accomplishments
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
i'm not AS sure on shoey as the other two
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
not opposed just not Definite Yes like wt/goom
<Pitohui>
Yeah, that's why I list him separately from those two for myself
<Gabumon>
most of the stuff I do is in minecraft, so if that was a more relevant branch of the community I would have a different opinion
<NinjaSquid>
I could also consider adding BLOF in C10
<NinjaSquid>
Patroller, Roleplay Mod, active in the community
<Pitohui>
He's doing a lot, but the one difference is that he hasn't really... started any- well, no, he did do a new format of interaction for What's in a Campaign
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
if anything i'd think blof has a stronger claim than shoey for those reasons
<Goombuigi>
I support BLOF, not sure about Shoey
<Pitohui>
And he also has been going hard on cross-promotion, linking different activities and things together
<Lakituthequick>
I'd have BLOF over Shoey
<Pitohui>
But, I'm half dozen one way twelve the other with him
<Pitohui>
Er, six the other
<Pitohui>
I never, ever get that phrase right
<Smasher>
i dont mind either but do think blof has the stronger case
<tpggaming4>
blof over shoey
<tpggaming4>
nothing personal
<Pitohui>
BLoF is a good pick
<@Anton{Politoed}>
is this a question of one over the other
<@_2257>
im honestly inclined to be generous with this and say they can all come on if we've got space
<@turb>
minecraft will be relevant when i force people to join the minecraft server in order to join awards tournaments
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
we have space for both, so
<@turb>
also same as 22 i think
<@turb>
like if we have the space and people feel they're deserving of being on then the votes can decide what direction we take the next year
<@_2257>
i don't see a good reason NOT to recognise people who are currently putting effort into the community
<@Anton{Politoed}>
what's shoey's document-official name
<Pitohui>
Chester Alan Arthur
<Smasher>
oh i was just saying that im more in support of blof but im personally not against shoey either
i didn't realize how much shakeup the award could use
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
until we really looked it over
<Pitohui>
Agreed, very good suggestion, Edo
<@_2257>
i dont think chester alan arthur is a good choice
<@_2257>
for his name i mean
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
so now we have a bunch of our relevant active people
<@_2257>
i dont think anyone calls him that ever
<Pitohui>
I think it's what we have as his current Wiki name
<Pitohui>
But we could make that Shoey
<Gabumon>
thank you
<@turb>
i feel like we should just call him shoey
<@Anton{Politoed}>
"So You Want to Conquer Japan? (Shoey),"
<@Anton{Politoed}>
shoey it is
<Smasher>
it would probably be better to do shoey
<Lakituthequick>
I never refer to Shoey by his wiki name
<@turb>
that's the only name people really know him by as a consistent thing
<Pitohui>
I'll standardize it to Shoey on the Dossier
<@turb>
also yeah
<Lakituthequick>
Seems like the forum theme kinda deal but more limited
<Smasher>
if i ever refer to him as chester just shoot me honestly
<@turb>
i am glad we decided to overhaul this
<NinjaSquid>
I'm good with adding BLOF and Shoey, but if I have to chose one or the other, I'd go with BLOF.
<@Anton{Politoed}>
similar would be me as Anton instead of Hypnotoad
<@turb>
so thank you edo
<Smasher>
this was a good idea yeah
<@Anton{Politoed}>
i'd change that on the wiki but that's more effort than I care to put in
<Lakituthequick>
👏 Edo
<Gabumon>
I hope we can put minecraft games onto next years community event award
<@turb>
me too
<Pitohui>
I can actually do MC games now that I've gotten MC for New Princeton
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
same
<Pitohui>
Exciting
<Lakituthequick>
I had Minecraft last year but then games didn't exist
<@Anton{Politoed}>
so, C10 is effectively complete
<Gabumon>
we're making plans for it to exist this year
<@Anton{Politoed}>
as is our meeting time
<@Anton{Politoed}>
rip to ltq's preparedness for the review
<Lakituthequick>
this was a good use of time
<Lakituthequick>
rip?
<Lakituthequick>
can never be too prepared
<Pitohui>
Yeah, we hammered out Community Awards well this year
<@Anton{Politoed}>
a valid point
<@turb>
:clap:
<tpggaming4>
lesgoo
<Pitohui>
Thanks to you all for dealing with me pestering you to vote in forum polls
<Pitohui>
Now this week I get to crank out the Dossier
<@turb>
do we know what's going on with polls in relation to e3
<@turb>
i was thinking about that
<Pitohui>
They come out before it, iirc
<Lakituthequick>
oh boy
<Lakituthequick>
e3
<@Anton{Politoed}>
polls go up June 13th
<@turb>
like are we waiting or are we just going to tell nintendo to eat our ass
<@turb>
ok
<@_2257>
we dont have the upcoming game award anyway
<@turb>
yeah true
<Pitohui>
13th = Set presentation order / Polls Open
<Pitohui>
15th – 17th = E3 Conference
<Honoka_Chaosaka>
yeah e3 generally only mattered for upcoming
<Uniju>
where mc peeps
<Pitohui>
Yeah
<@_2257>
the chances of something coming out in time are pretty low
<@turb>
that was usually the only reason we started banging tables around e3 specifically rather than just like
<Uniju>
im taking over this meeting
<@Anton{Politoed}>
"Nintendo hasn’t announced exactly when it will be holding its E3 2021 direct, but it’s guaranteed to happen sometime between June 12 to 15. Unlike EA and Sony, Nintendo is still a partner of the ESA (Entertainment Software Association) so it should hold its livestream during the official week of E3."
<Uniju>
its time to decide on when mc games is happening
<@turb>
doing a review before polls
<@turb>
i dont know when mc games is happening
<@_2257>
i dont know either
<@_2257>
should we hold a poll
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<Uniju>
no we should unilaterally decide it right now and if anyone complains we're cancelling it again
<Gabumon>
good idea
<@turb>
when do i have to have the hotel done by
<@_2257>
well
<Gabumon>
3 hours, turb
<@turb>
fear
<@_2257>
how many games do we have i guess
<Smasher>
cant wait for the first mario game after marios death to be announced at e3